Wolf and Owl - S3 Ep 14: Magnesium Butter & Doggy Treats
Episode Date: March 6, 2024We’re talking… how much we weigh, protein problems, sleep tactics and magnesium butter, testosterone, tour snacks, Tom’s very unfortunate dog treat mix-up, dubious influencers, Rom and Claudia o...n Radio 2, more Langham shenanigans, hosting Comic Relief and far too many food delivery mistakes. Plus, an email question asking us for some wedding advice. For questions or comments, please email us at wolfowlpod@gmail.com - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: HELLO@KEEPITLIGHTMEDIA.COM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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To pull up at your shows
Have the crowd witnessing
The murder like they rolled in
With a gang of crows
Fuck their censorship
Let them see the whole thing
They stay dressed to kill
Never sheep's clothing
Dark enough to turn
The sun to the moon
You'll see nothing
All you hear is a huff
A puff and a
Expect killings
Red spilling
And flesh ripping
Impressive in it.
The death bringing, his head spinning.
Just kidding.
Every word in this song's about two grown men
dressed up as a bird and a dog.
Welcome once again.
Wayne, I don't want to speculate on his weight.
Oh, you know what?
I can tell you why.
I weighed myself this morning.
What do you weigh yourself in? Pounds or kilos?'m kilos yeah yeah so i'm one two eight point three one two eight point three at the moment is that good well i was
one three three coming out christmas i was 131. 132. you lost 10 almost 10 kilos yeah it's christmas
yeah my god i want to get down to,
my doctor said I need to,
I probably need to drop another three or four kilos
probably just to be,
yeah,
just healthy.
Is that real?
I don't know,
I mean like,
look,
this visceral fat thing
is the thing that kicks me up
at night at the moment.
Visceral fat is a fucking
silent shit bag in my life.
It's like,
yeah,
it's very much something.
Actually, if you do
drop a shit
you can feel a bit better
about your visceral fat
yeah but
that's the other thing
I was going too high
on protein
not to get too graphic
I'm straight out
of the fucking gate
but
if you don't have carbs
it comes pouring out
of the gate
doesn't it
it comes streaming
out of the gate
that's the problem
carbs and fibre
are so fucking big
for your
your weekly
or your daily turnaround
weekly if you're just having protein.
It's insane.
If you get to the point of the amount of protein I'm having,
basically once a week you pass a
small pellet.
Cracks the
porcelain as it drops.
And you burn
400 calories just doing that.
If you look into the toilet, it starts drawing
light into it. It's fucking crazy. that uh that the blackest of black paint
it's like that isn't it insane like when you think you've yeah oh god that feels good and
then you look down it's just two pellets you change your daughter's nappy and she's had a
really big satisfying dump and you're just speaking of by the way speaking of keeping
yourself up i do want to
share this I've now
told you about this
well this is incredible
guys this is okay this
well you don't I'm
hoping it works for you
well it's coming today I
think or tomorrow okay
so three nights ago I'm
talking to Lisa the
swan the beautiful
beautiful beautiful
swan who has not been
worried about me but I just said to her,
I've not been sleeping very well, right?
And it's not stress,
because I'm not feeling stressed by work.
I'm really enjoying work at the moment.
And having a great time at home.
Oh, God, anyway, Jesus Christ,
what the fuck is this this morning?
Anyway, so then I said to Lisa,
I'm not sleeping very well.
As it leans in
yeah
so no but you are
so Romesh
what people don't realise
is you do
you do work a lot
but you are having
a great time in life
I mean you're just
you're just
you've got the balance
right
nodding like that
here he goes
he's about to blow our minds
but I am actually happy
because the thing is
but are you
because the thing is
it's like people
people often say to me
like Romesh you're doing so much you're working left right thing is... But are you? Because the thing is, people often say to me,
like, Romesh, you're doing so much.
You're working left, right and centre.
Like, what are you... You know, how are you managing to stay on top of it?
Let me tell you something, guys.
It's not easy.
It's not the simplest of things.
It's about making a conscious decision
to maintain balance.
And that is something...
And listen, it doesn't come naturally.
Every morning i get up
and i think what is my balance going to be today and i stick to it and some days listen don't get
me wrong ben don't get me wrong cat some days it i'm not getting it right i don't i don't i don't
want to get you i don't want to be under the impression that i'm i'm nailing this or anything
like that there are some days where i think oh bloody hell Romesh get a grip on this but you know
most days
Romesh we asked you
what avoidance was about
break the internet
because this is amazing
yeah
so a few nights ago
I said to Lisa
I'm not sleeping very well
and she said to me
I'd love to I just want to picture this scene, right?
You're sitting there on the sofa.
Lisa's sitting, you're laying, you've got your head on her lap.
You've kicked off your slippers.
It does happen.
I don't want to paint too much of a picture.
And you're watching, I don't know, like Below Deck on TV.
Yeah.
And then I said to Lisa, I've not been sleeping very well,
and she said to me, have you tried magnesium? And I said to lisa i've not been sleeping she said to me have you tried
magnesium and i said to her well i have i did buy some magnesium tablets but as is my want i've lost
them as soon as i open them i've got no idea where they are she said to me magnesium butter
romesh you rub it on the bottom of your feet and your skin absorbs it and it makes you sleep better
she said i've got some and immediately i'll be honest with you, I was cynical.
Because, you know, rubbing something on the bottom of your feet
makes you sleep better.
It's the name of your brilliant stand-up tour
that's on Netflix now called The Cynics Mixtape.
As you know, well, the reason I called it that, Ben,
is just because people often say, Romesh, you're a bit of a cynic.
And I thought, rather than running away from that,
why not embrace it?
Sorry, Romesh, you've got bogey hanging out of your nose.
Anyway, so that night, I put on...
Oh, the other thing I saw on TikTok was
that if your ambient temperature is lower,
it makes it easier to sleep.
Yeah, that's true.
So these are the things that I did.
Number one, when we went upstairs,
I immediately stopped looking at my phone.
Boom.
I just put it to one side.
Didn't look at it at all upstairs, right?
Which is a problem for me.
Number two, I opened the window.
Not because, well, yeah, just to cool it down.
Yeah.
And then number three, I put magnesium butter
onto the solesamuppet.
How much did you put, like a sort of slight thin lathering,
or did you get right in there?
I'd say thin, yeah.
I wasn't putting it on like Marmite on toast or anything.
It was just very, you know, just, it melts straight away,
straight into the...
Oh, nice.
Do you put it between your toes?
Do you put it between your toes?
No, I don't tend to, no.
Okay.
I'm slightly nervous now because it's called butter,
then it might not be vegan.
But if it's not vegan, I'm going to have to renounce my veganism
because what I'm about to tell you,
I slept the best night's sleep that I've had in years, Tom.
Wow.
Years.
Because you know I'm not sleeping at all at the moment,
so this is like, this is... Woke up the next morning, I slept, bro, in years, Tom. Wow. Years. Because you know I'm not sleeping at all at the moment.
So this is like, this is... Woke up the next morning,
I slept, bro,
eight hours straight through, my G.
No piss in the night?
Straight.
You didn't get up for it?
No piss.
Well, if I did have a piss,
I don't remember it.
Wow.
You know, Lisa might have had to change the sheets
while I was still sending them away.
Right?
So I woke up the next morning,
I felt incredible.
Wow.
So then the next night, I was at work and I had to stay away for the night.
Didn't have the magnesium butter.
Went back to normal sleep, right, which is like five, six hours.
Traumatic.
Sheet clenched up underneath my chin.
Wondering why it is I can't get to sleep.
Panicking.
Staring at the ceiling.
Wide-eyed.
Absolutely having a panic attack about the fact I've got work the next day
and I'm not going to be able to be rested enough to do it.
You know, one of them.
The next night, I go to work as normal, do a gig in Cambridge.
Shout out, Cambridge.
You're absolutely delightful.
Come home, magnesium butter, boom, another great night's sleep for the Romesh
I mean
listen
it's
mate I've ordered some
as soon as you
messaged it
I text you
straight away
and I said mate
I think this might be a game
magnesium and
it's got lavender in it
as well right
it smells delightful
it smells
and what I would say to you
at the very worst
your feet get moisturised
well it's the other thing
I've got a bit of hard skin
on some of my feet,
so that'll be, yeah.
It's win-win, isn't it?
You know, you were talking about supplements.
I'm hitting my supplement, like my tablet game,
my sort of vitamins game.
I'm trying to push that up a level now.
Right.
And sort of make sure I'm disciplined with what I'm having every day.
Yeah.
Vitamin D, magnesium's really good.
Oh, thank God it's vegan, thank God.
It is vegan.
Is that you anxious for it?
It is vegan.
Yeah.
I just looked at you as you.
Part of my, after having the blood stunt, the doctor was like, you need to have more
vitamin D. So I've been, yeah, yeah.
Magnesium, Tonga Alley, I think it's called, which is amazing.
Well, neither of those things are for vitamin D, are they?
No, no, I'm having just straight vitamin D.
Oh, okay, as well as these things that you're talking about.
Yeah, yeah.
And Tonga Ali or whatever the fuck it is,
that is a testosterone supplement, right?
Mate, it's very good.
It's very good.
My testosterone actually was higher than I anticipated.
I thought it was going to be really rock bottom.
Because you know the drop off as a man is insane
don't you when you get to our age.
I've not had an erection in anger
for months now.
Well Robert that's a strange
way to start the conversation.
We just asked you whether you enjoyed it.
The question I asked you was do you like the French toast?
But it's a massive drop-off when you go over 30.
The doctor would see he's like an expert in that field.
It's quite interesting chatting to him about it. Was it an over-the-counter thing?
No, no, no, it was at the internet.
Yeah, okay.
That's the best way,
isn't it,
with that stuff?
I sometimes wonder
why people sort of
go to the doctor
and get certified
kind of prescribed stuff.
No, to be fair,
the doctor sent me that.
Just Google it.
Just Google it.
What did you Google?
Stronger hard-ons?
No, no,
the doctor recommended that.
He sent me the link
for that to get.
It was like,
it wasn't from like,
it was from like a proper place.
Where was this doctor
in the back of one key?
Just sent you an internet link
to order some shit.
Just fucking stabbed me
in the fucking,
in the side,
took some blood.
Oh yeah,
even more testosterone, mate.
How do you know
I need more testosterone?
I know a guy,
I know a guy,
listen, listen,
here's a link.
Look,
I know the guy's got
the same surname as me, but there's no connection at all more testosterone? Listen, listen, here's a link. Look, I know the guy's got the same surname as me,
but there's no connection at all, all right?
Just trust me, you're going to have a dick like a baby's arm
after you get something.
You need to spend £150 a month on vitamins.
Wow, whatever you say, this feels good.
Yeah, three times a day.
It's about £100.
That's about three days' supply.
But listen, if you want to stay healthy,
that's what you've got to do.
If you want to be healthy
and yourself and happy
and have more testosterone.
So I'm trying to hit that up.
I'm fucking pushing that vibe.
Tom Craddy's,
yeah,
I feel good for it.
I've got to say.
What is the effect
of the testosterone
if,
you know,
without getting too graphic?
Are you waking,
because somebody said to me,
if you don't wake up
with a full hard-on,
you've probably got
a testosterone issue
no i mean it's more the fact it's actually very much linked to male depression like if you if you
look at you know not to get too dark but yeah if you look at a lot of male suicides if you look at
a lot of uh the mental health angle of it uh the the menopause as people call it that drop-off is
massive so it's a massive part of your actual
you know the way your mind works and where your body feels and then once testosterone starts
dropping and reducing quite significantly after you hit 30 it there's a massive correlation
between that and yeah mental health problems okay well do you mind just give me a moment
while i clamber out from underneath the bus you just threw me under i'm talking about erections
you've gone into sort of mental health and
no I know that
you like to be
King Lark and
fuck about
just dust myself
down
while we're talking
about that I had a
fucking awful one
right this week
so I'm trying to
be healthy
yes as we know
trying to keep my
dart in check
what I used to do when I was like touring,
I'd pop into services,
usually have a Burger King or KFC,
whatever they had there,
McDonald's,
if I was really treating myself,
then I'd,
you know,
we'd go into the WH Smith's and I'd get some,
or the Master Smith's,
I'd get some Percy Pigs or some Haribo's kind of chocolate bars.
And I'm like trying to be like,
you know what?
I've got to fucking reduce that stuff.
I've got to like,
don't get me wrong.
When you used to stop off,
did you get anything to eat
once you had got into the car as well?
No,
I'd usually sit,
wolf down a big,
big fast,
like fast food thing.
Then eat the Haribo on the way to the car,
get to the car and go,
actually I won't go.
This is how greedy I am,
mate, right?
So the other day day I was getting driven
by Jim
who says hello
I say he says hello
he probably doesn't need to
he probably spoke to him
just before he got on the podcast
but
we stopped off
at services
I got
a couple of
vegan sausage rolls
from Greg's
and I
considered it an achievement
that I hadn't started
eating them
before I got back to the car
I genuinely thought
that was a real test of my will.
Look, man, I felt really bad because Jim's really going through it health-wise, right?
He's trying to be really fit and healthy.
I know.
He's getting a bit upset about it, isn't he?
Yeah.
And I adore Jim.
But the other day, I felt really bad.
So I was – this was before Dr. Gay, right?
And I trained that morning.
We were driving to, I think, Lurstoft.
I think. I want to say Lurstoft. I think.
I want to say Lurstoft.
And on the way there, we stop at a Greg's.
And I was like, I've brought us four yum-yums to share.
So we had two yum-yums each.
And he was really like, I'm not sure.
I don't really.
And I was like, come on, man.
I felt like a guy pushing someone to do drugs.
I was like, come on, bro.
Because I didn't want to feel disgusted.
I couldn't eat four yum-yums.
I didn't want it to go to waste
no
thinking about it
I could have probably
saved one of them
you wanted to feel better
about you eating yum yums
so you threw him
under the yum yum
yeah
and then Jim had one
and then
I left the other yum yum
in the back of the car
I said I'll have the yum yum
there for the way home
just in case you want it
and he went
oh don't leave it there
and actually thinking about it
I could have probably
given it to Dinesh
because he'd have eaten it
wouldn't he
yeah
so yeah
but anyway
I have to regress slightly
so anyway
I'm rushing in
because we're in a bit of a hurry
to get to the venue
right
I'm going through the shelves
I see a snack there
right
and I'm like
are you looking it up now
yeah I've got it here
I'm going to show you it
right
I think oh look all I could say I just basically looked at the thing And I'm like, oh. You're looking it up now. Yeah, I've got it here. I'm going to show you it, right?
I think, oh, look, all I could say,
I just basically looked at the thing.
It said nut butter bites, peanut cashews and turkey.
And I'm like, fucking that, like high protein.
I'm like, fucking hell, they sound great, right?
What did you just say?
What did you just say?
It says peanut cashews and turkey.
They're all good things that I've been told to have, right?
Nuts and meat.
Jesus Christ, yeah. Does it come with two liters of water what the hell is that no this
you know this is gonna be like anyway i've literally maybe i've just gone seen them going
oh hell they look great they're right by all the sort of snacks you know like where you've
got like beef jerky and pork crashes right so i've think I know where this is going. Right, so I've got them.
Fucking got in the back of the car and I was like, sort of like,
had two or three of them.
I'm like, these are fucking horrible.
They're disgusting.
And then I looked at the packaging
and this is the packaging.
I knew it.
I fucking knew it.
You bought dog food.
It's insane.
They weren't that disgusting,
but I was like, you know.
And then I looked and I was like,
do I ever mention this to anyone?
Because it quite clearly says here, low calorie treats for dogs.
But I thought this was just like a wacky picture of a character that was sort of, you know, Denzel's.
I was like, yeah.
Tom, Tom, Tom, peanuts.
What is it
what are the ingredients
peanuts
cashews
and turkey
it doesn't
I'm not being funny
but that doesn't
sound like a human snack
but it was right
next to the beach
look number one
whoever's in charge
of that fucking
storage and shelving
should be sacked
yeah
because that's right
can I just say
on behalf of Tom
pets at home
you are fucking
bang out of order
mate I was literally I looked at the pork because they've got high protein pork crackling Pets at home, you are fucking bang out of order.
Mate, literally, I looked at the pork,
because they've got high-protein pork crackling.
They have beef jerky.
I was like, no, these look nice.
I love turkey.
So I was like, this would be fucking great.
And then I'm like, then, mate, the paranoia that I had that the turkey would be raw, obviously it wasn't raw,
because I didn't have it.
No adverse effects.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you get yourself a chew toy to chew yourself up?
Mate, I genuinely was like...
I sat in the back of this car just...
No adverse effects, but I did spend a second off of the tour show
licking my own bollock.
I've got quite serious worms now.
And it won't be high grey turkey
will it
it'll be low grey turkey
no
I mean look
most of the turkey you're buying
anyway is not high grey turkey
is it
so God knows what they're putting
in the dog stuff
yeah
how horrible was it
was it dry
I ate three of them
yeah it was dry
I ate three of them
and it was like
you know
I ate like wolf three of them down
how many of them were there
in the
well I bet you did wolf them down how many of them were there in the well I bet you did wolf them down
how many of them
were there in the bag
I didn't count
I mean there was
probably another
seven or eight left
okay
what did you do
with the rest of them
bin them
yeah of course
I binned them
yeah
I was like
yeah
you didn't contemplate
being one of these
cool guys
that's on a walk
and then a dog
comes after you
and you go
do you mind if I
do you mind if I
treat your dog
no
that would have
meant I would have
had to keep them
on me for fucking
ages oh you haven't got a dog listen no that would have meant I'd have had to keep them on me for fucking ages
oh you haven't got a dog
listen
obviously that's ridiculous
there's no way
you'd have had them
on me for that long
without eating them
I get it
by the way
I contemplate
I would love to see
you walking up
to someone's dog
just go
do you want me
to treat your dog
yeah sure
one for me
one for the doggy
but if I'd liked them
maybe I would have
just kept eating them
I will say that
they like
I mean
I don't know
why they're with
human snacks
that fucked me off
do you know what I mean
they should be
you don't know why
they're
well they should be
with human snacks
it should be a little dog
what shop was it in
like the Marks and Spencer's
garage ones
but in their
in fairness to them
what I would say
is just to give it
a bit of context
you might have seen this
if you're listening
there's a dog on the packet
that's the first thing
mate
mate
can I
because I sort of preempted
that you were going to say this right
but Frosties have got
a fucking tiger on the packet
doesn't mean they're just
for tigers does it
Coco Pops has got
a monkey on the packet
I would say
it's a rarer occurrence
that I probably did
the supermarket
to get myself some tiger food.
No, but I'm just saying,
quite a lot of brands.
It's not that many people
that are popping into the mainstream.
There's a good reason to shambos the yogurts.
They're not for...
I'm saying,
as long as we've been eating fucking food,
someone's put an animal on it
because animals are cute.
Okay.
Fine.
And also, let me say, by the way,
that dogs are very fit, lovely things.
If someone turned around
to me now
and said oh you can have
the body of a
like I don't know
like a Great Dane
I'd go fucking give it
give it to me now please
well I don't think you're
as far away as you think
to be honest with you
but what I would say
is like first of all
right
there's a dog on the packet
fine we can disregard that
you've come up with
a series of counter arguments
like you're preparing
for a court case
fine
secondly
right it's peanuts cashews and turkey right which are all foods that i try to
eat quite a lot they're all foods but you to put them together in a human snack it's like something
out the fucking apprentice right that's the second thing i'll say thirdly and i would say this is
kind of the clincher at which point I close my suitcase and say,
I say suitcase, I meant to say briefcase, fuck.
The point I'm trying to make is, on the packet,
it says treats for dogs.
I mean, that to me is an indication.
That should be a bigger disclaimer, though,
because that's quite small.
Look, if you look at the packet, can you see?
Okay, let's have a look.
Well, you're bringing it back up on your phone.
Right, can you see that? Okay, here's what this is what i'm looking at okay uh peanuts cashews and turkey nut butter bites the the word denzel's is like a dog bone okay that's the that's
the next thing i say there's a picture of a dog looking very happy it says soft and squishy which
something you very rarely have and then it
says low was it say low calorie training treats for dogs where does it say that oh yeah
i genuinely just saw the picture for that so they sound about i just didn't clock that bit
which is where i fucked up and but i will say this they weren't as disgusting as i thought like
they like i'm saying now well you had three of them yeah well they seasoned well i wouldn't say
the peanuts okay there was there was a vibe to them do you know what i mean they weren't seasoned
seasoned benefit i'd probably learn to be a bit more healthy yeah i imagine if you were going to
get me to do some proper tricks and fucking... Yeah.
Do you feel like you would have done what somebody told you for more?
No, but obviously... No more than any other food that I eat.
What I would say is, in your defence,
because obviously I'm trying to attack you because that's, you know,
it's fun, isn't it?
But I do think it's weird they had it with human food.
But that's why I just didn't even...
But the only thing I'm slightly doubting, if I'm being honest with you, is they had it with human food but that's why I just didn't even but the only thing
I'm slightly doubting
if I'm being honest with you
is that it was with human food
I'm starting to wonder
if what he did
is he wandered
because you've said beef jerky
which is actually
quite a common dog treat
as well
what I'm starting to wonder
is if he wandered over
to the dog paddock
the dog paddock
look this was very much
a human
there was crisps there
there was like
chorizo
and fucking chicken bites
like there was stuff that I'd had like chorizo and fucking chicken bites like
there was stuff that i'd had before that i probably should just maybe stayed in my own lane maybe i
was doing too fucking out there you know yeah but yeah it stayed with me have you told anyone else
no i mean i just thought i'll wait wait till i do a fucking international podcast
i mentioned it briefly international podcast there you go
there we go that's that's your misconception of this.
We're barely national.
Well, I'll wait until I'm on a regional podcast.
I'll bet we're a local podcast.
Catherine was just like, shook her head.
She was just kind of like, oh, God.
Yeah.
And she said, why do you eat three of them?
And I showed her the package.
She was just a bit like,
that's why I had the argument about the dog already loaded.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because most of Grace's food has animals of some kind on it.
Not that we feed her animal food.
No, no, I get it.
Bears are a big one.
I wonder if someone has wandered into Tesco's
and bought some Frosties to give to their tiger.
Order up for Damien.
Hey, how did your doctor's appointment go, by the way?
Did you ask about Rebelsis?
Actually, I'm seeing my doctor later today.
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I wonder why, though, they came up with the idea of... Because that was a big thing when we were kids, right?
Like, there's a cockerel on cornflakes.
I get the cockerel, I guess, because he's up early
and that's breakfast, right?
Yeah, yeah, correct.
But I don't...
Some of the others I just think are quite random.
Like, hippos...
A hippo for shambosy Yoghurt's never felt,
what's that about?
No, that's weird.
Yeah, that is strange.
What's his name?
Was it Tommy the Tiger, the guy on Frosties?
No, Tony the Tiger.
Tony the Tiger.
He's like, they're great.
You don't see,
I mean, do they advertise Frosties anymore?
Are they not allowed to, like cigarettes?
I think it is one of those things where
if you advertise it
it leads to
negative PR
because you know
because like people
are so anti-sugar
and stuff like that
have you seen on
TikTok
oh mate don't even
get me on TikTok
you know the guys
that walk up
in the supermarket
and they go
they pick up a box
I mean Eddie
Eddie Abu's gone
massive now hasn't he
you know we were
talking about him
a while ago
he's gone huge now
yeah he's been swimming away for a while ago. He's gone huge now.
Yeah, he was simmering away for a while now.
He's like, boom, everywhere.
Yeah, absolutely smashing it.
It's like, it's fucking shit.
This is fucking shit.
It's supposed to have four... Wake the fuck up.
Do people not worry that, look,
and he's very, very watchable,
but that that could lead to quite serious eating disorders?
Well, I do think the open, regulation-free approach
to allowing nutritionists and exercise people
to be on TikTok is arguably dangerous.
Some of them aren't probably nutritionists.
I'll tell you, there's one fucking guy on there,
I can't remember his name, right?
I watch, like you do, a lot of gym, fitness, health stuff gym fitness health stuff whatever my algorithm by the way is essentially like a pub now it's like my algorithm
on fucking is a mixture of beside the picking the spots which is reduced there's people on there who
seem to like sort of just be giving fucking weird advice there's fucking jocks that are fucking
talking about how much they're benching and being quite vindictively horrible about people who are slightly overweight.
And then I seem to fall in an algorithm
of this underground boxing world,
not misfits, but this other world
of people just calling each other out
of different age.
It's insane.
Like, just madness of just like,
blokes older than us just going,
listen, I've seen you,
fucking come on in, here right and give it
all the bollocks if you want to meet me in a fucking car park anywhere between derby and
fucking manchester we'll fucking have it and you think what's the fucking like like what has this
become this like it's like look you know what i was like this used to be family used to be free
a dad and his two sons which yeah i wasn't a
big fan of but at least it was quite sweet and quite fun and now it's like wow wow whoa whoa
i found it very very annoying it was no listen listen that is that's fucking more than a 180
what you've just done there man right quite sweet that the number of times and by the way not just on this podcast
to me personally
you have fucking
gone in
two footed
on that family
like they're the
fucking scourge
of scourge
of British culture
mate I find them
furious
I would describe it
as furious
about them
I find them ever so annoying
I can't contemplate
in my head
why you're doing that
and I quote
everything that's wrong
with the modern world
that's a direct quote
I thought that was the love
I thought that was the bottom
and now I'm seeing
this aggressive
toxic vibe
of people fucking
offering each other out
it's essentially
you might as well just
it's like a pub
in a
like
microcosm
of the fucking
internet now
I'm like
what is this algorithm
and like
the worrying thing
of like someone like,
you know,
Eddie,
I can't remember his surname now.
Wake the fuck up,
Eddie Ebbe.
But it's like,
is he a fucking
trained nutritionist?
Has he actually
got like qualifications?
Because what he's telling people,
right,
the more people
you get following that,
there's a kid,
he's on there now,
he used to be like a, I used to watch him quite a lot he used to be him and his mates i think
brothers whatever they used to do like golf videos he now does these fitness videos and some of them
are i mean essentially it's him doing a david brent impression just being absolutely vicious
about anyone who's mildly overweight or anyone who doesn't train it It's so fucking toxic. They try and make it like,
I'll tell you what happens on TikTok
is they've got like chefs that do this,
but they've also got like fitness influencers
now that do this,
where they go,
are you one of these fucking fat fucking fucks
that don't realise it's calories in
versus calories out?
There's some people who tell you
it's not about calories in.
Wankers.
Let me tell you this
if you want to get their ass slimmer than a ting ting be able to put your pim pim in the ding ding
then you need to remember it's calorie deficit if you ever hear somebody say to you it's not
about calorie deficit you're a fucking mug you muggy little rat muggy little rat you've got to
get all this fucking shit like hard cuts them jumping between each it's fucking awful and then the other thing that you see is people going into supermarkets and they'll
pick something up and they'll go this uh now a lot of people think this is good cereal bar it's got a
lot of polyunsaturates it's got a lot of oats which actually inflate inflate inside the stomach
and lead to serious illnesses uh this is overrated this is something that can actually lead to your death if you eat
more than one or two of these a month. So put them back on the thing. If you want to substitute,
how about this? How about this? It's a tangerine. Now, don't eat the flesh of the tangerine.
Very acidic, very horrible. Just chew on the peel. Don't swallow. You'll get the same orangey
flavors. You get the same satisfaction. Don't get any get the same satisfaction don't get any of the calories don't get any of the
negative nutrients
but make sure you rinse it first
that is
my top tip
out
all this fucking shit man
it's non-stop
I will say
on the fucking
I was eating like
those grenade bars
every day
and not losing weight
and then realised
what the protein was
yeah and then realised
that they were actually
full of fucking shit
yeah I mean
you can't
I mean theoretically
do you know what
I was about to
after complaining about nutritionists i was about to after complaining
about nutritionist i was about to offer some nutritional advice yeah but like it's not
fucking rocket science but also if you are worried about it and it is a worry for people and i'm
at that point in my life where like fucking go and speak to someone or or go on an nhs website
or go somewhere that actually has some kind of like I can sit here and fucking tell you
you know
in the last few years
I've lost over
fucking what
five and a half stone
like
from where I was
it's fucking
but
I can't sit here
and then fucking go
you should do this
you should do that
because what I'm doing
is right for me
there's no
there's no way
of me explaining
that you should try this
or try that
it's fucking
what works for one person is not going to work.
Me and you have probably got very different ways
in which we've both lost a bit of timber.
Yeah, but what I would say is I can't tell you how much I weigh now.
As in not that I'm ashamed to.
I've not weighed myself in months.
Yeah, but you look, I mean, man,
you put a picture up the other day, right,
of you hanging out with Claudia Winkleman
and the woman who does the traffic
Sally Traffic
is that actually her name?
yeah her name's Sally Traffic, that's how she got into it actually
are you joking?
no
her name is Sally Traffic
I think it's from like an old
I think it originates from like
you know like families that used to
you know like sometimes surnames are to do with whatever your job was.
So she was,
oh,
no,
that traffic didn't get invented till fucking 1950.
No,
but it was like the origins,
like back in the day,
it was like,
you know,
the whole thing about sort of,
you know,
it wasn't just cars.
I can tell now you're fucking with me.
Why does she call herself Sally Traffic if it's not her name?
Because she does
the fucking
traffic
but she's got
more to her
than that
that's her
nickname
that's her
nickname
are you keeping
her on
when you
leave
or when she
leaves
if you're
under the
impression
that it's
up to
I'm not
fucking
Jose Mourinho
bringing in
my own
team
when I go
and take
over
no but
is Sally
going to
stay
no Sally's
an institution
she's the
only thing
that's
fucking
by the
way
while we're talking about that,
have a look at that post.
I texted you about it.
Yeah, yeah, I had a look.
My God.
My God.
I went on to Claudia Winkerman's show.
By the way, I'm not upset about this.
People, please don't get...
I went on Claudia Winkerman's show.
We started talking about how I'm going to be
taking over the show in April.
Radio 2 tagged me in a post
invited me to be
a collaborator
in a post
I share it
the number of people
the number of comments
I got
just fucking angry
at me
being alive
do you know what I mean
just like people
just posted going
you ticked me about it
greatest hits radio
you've got yourself a new listener.
Will not be listening to this man.
Not my favourite celebrity.
Awful.
Awful.
Never hosted a radio show in his life.
Why are they letting him do it?
I guess it's jobs for the boys.
Yeah, I'm one of the fucking inner circle, mate.
I'm one of the insiders in the industry.
What the fuck are you talking about?
My favourite comment was someone wrote,
well, that's me gone. I'm going'm gonna start listening to graham norton on virgin and someone else
well he's leaving as well
mate it is so mad how some of those people are so angry man it's crazy the thing is i was uh
i was doing some odd jobs at uh katherine's aunt's house uh
and you text me about it and i was like oh i'll have a little break a little bit of squash
and uh chill and read these and i didn't know what to take you back because i was like oh
fucking here he goes he's exaggerating then i read them i was like oh fucking god there's some
nice ones on there but the top 15 I was like this is fucking insane
I know
and what
I think the worst one
might be
because it confirmed
what I suspected
Romesh ignore the haters
I'm going to give you
a chance
and just think
oh no
yeah but I bet
if you went back
to when Claudia
took over that show
from
I can't remember
who did it
for Graham
Graham was
I think it was Graham
before Claudia
yeah so I bet if you
went back to that, that she'd have had the same thing.
I don't know, man.
I don't know, people still change sometimes,
bro. I guess so, yeah.
But listen, for that,
what I would like to say is...
You looked incredible
in that suit. That was a rocking look.
That's very kind of you.
You know when you look at
someone in a picture as well, I was look. That's very kind of you. You know, when you look at someone
in a picture as well,
I was like,
I bet he smells amazing today.
Well,
do you know what I thought to myself?
I got up in the morning
because I was working in town,
so I stayed over the night.
Oof, nice.
And then...
Bougie hotel?
Little bougie now?
Well,
there's something I didn't want
to talk to you about, actually.
Oh, no, you prick.
What, the Langham fucking hell man like you're the worst person for fucking trying to make a stand
did you like genuinely you're fucking sitting withering on about veganism and fucking all
this stuff the two of us are literally here going well we'll fucking those pricks mate
fucking all this stuff.
The two of us are literally here going,
well, well, fucking those pricks, mate.
Giving a fucking free night there.
You're over there like,
oh, I don't really know him.
I don't really know him. I'll just do a podcast with him.
I'll just stay in my room.
I won't use any of the facilities.
I didn't get a free night there.
Okay.
I'll tell you what, mate.
I don't use this lightly
if we were the miners
right
you'd have been a scab
crossing the fucking line
go make the police sandwiches
it was great though
and they were
they were so nice
I bet they fucking were
because the BBC
booked it for you
so we better treat him well
the BBC
listen
if you
if you are under the impression
okay
that me being a guest on the Cordy Wilkerman show
means that they pay for me to have a hotel in town,
you really are fucking delusional.
I know that doesn't happen.
And if you think the Langham gave me a free room,
that's another delusion of yours.
Yeah, I know.
They don't give anything away, mate.
They don't even give a fucking table.
But they didn't know who I was.
They knew who you were when you turned up.
They didn't.
Mate, I'll tell you, like genuinely, right?
I wish you'd filmed this just to see what they were like.
I bet when they saw you were coming, they were like,
this is our chance.
Did you get any nice bits, any nice treats?
No, I don't think I did.
It was our standard, to be honest with you.
I mean, I turned up at midnight and I left at nine.
Oh, fuck, how can you feel it?
You can't give that a trip advisor
I didn't give it
who said I did give it
a trip advisor
you'll have literally
got all the
Langham's so lovely
and it's
you're literally
in and out
in seconds
I spent longer
in the toilet
than that
I didn't fucking
by the way
the Langham didn't
turn me into
Julian Clary
I turned up there
I had a night's sleep I wandered over to get my interview and then I left okay it's right by the way the Langham didn't turn me into Julian Clary I turned up there I had a night's sleep
I wandered over
to get my interview
and then I left
okay
it's right by the radio station
by the way
I bet if you rock up
to the Langham
in that sweet suit
you were wearing
I bet they were
fucking all lovely to you
like you know
hello Mr Reganathan
welcome
hello Jonathan
and you're like
oh I feel so special
did you have a bath while you were there no no I did not You're like, oh, I feel so special.
Did you have a bath while you were there?
No.
No, I did not.
I wish you'd shown me inside the Inner Sanctum as well so you could see what the rooms are about there.
Yeah, I should have FaceTimed you or something like that.
Well, if it was midnight.
What night was it?
Friday night?
Friday night, yeah.
I would have been around.
I was driving back from Chester.
So that could have broken up the drive a little bit.
Yeah, that would have been sweet.
But I don't know if I could have dealt with your rage at that stage.
And by the way, can I just say, do you know who suggested it?
Who?
Flo.
Flo did?
This is insane.
It's literally like two of the people I trust the most.
It's like a fucking film.
Sleeping with the Enemy or something.
Sleeping at the Enemy?
Sleeping in the Enemy?
Yes, sleeping in the Enemy.
It's insane.
There's so many nice hotels there.
I would sooner, genuinely, this is true.
No, but listen, in my defence,
it's tough to find a nice hotel in London.
That's what I would say.
Mate, I'd have stayed in a holiday inn.
I'd have joined ranks with you and gone,
and said to someone,
oh, you can stay in the Langham.
I'd go, no, Romesh,
they were so rude to Romesh.
Tom, Tom, Tom,
I love you.
I love the bones of you.
I think you're one of the most
incredible human beings
on the planet.
And most days,
I thank my lucky stars
that I'm friends with you.
The idea
that you would have stayed
in a holiday inn
in a show of solidarity with me
is so far from the truth.
I can't even fucking believe it.
Mate.
In fact, not only...
Listen, if the shoe was on the other foot,
this is what I tell you would have happened,
and I can almost guarantee this, right?
You would have gone to the Langham, right?
You've had a great night.
And when I asked you where you'd stayed,
you would have made up some other name.
That is the honest truth.
I admire your honesty. That's the one thing That is the honest truth. I admire your honesty.
That's the one thing I will say for you.
I admire your honesty.
Yeah, it's an honesty.
Also, I will be calling Flo after this
and go, what are you bloody thinking?
With the language.
I could, you know, as well,
I could imagine you just swaggering over in your suit,
like not even doing the buttons up.
I can't just Flo behind you
like you're Matthew McConaughey in Wolf of Wall Street.
Cut like them, say, you know, espresso in hand.
Stopping traffic in that fucking sexy suit.
I really did get up in the morning.
I just put on a suit because I wonder what outfit is the best outfit to get called a **** online.
I think this suit's the one.
You did look amazing.
But that was the second time this week that you looked incredible.
The Comet Relief press this week you looked incredible the comic relief press
bit you looked
incredible
you're a very good
mate like that
aren't you so you
saw the comic relief
photo and you
texted me immediately
by the way they
did something to
your hair in that
it looked amazing
they almost like
put like your
hair looks incredible
anyway but they
like put like a
it doesn't look
incredible now
but they started
it looked like it had almost like sort of like sort of tips put
like blonde tips put on it there are no blonde tips on it i think that might have been grey but
what i would say to you is is uh that was a photo straight from i didn't do a comic relief photo
shoot that was nicked from uh not nicked with permission from weakest link oh really no it's
the weakest link for you there you go little people how excited are you because you're not nicked, with permission, from Weakest Link. Oh, really? No, it's the Weakest Link.
There you go.
How excited are you?
Because you're presenting Comic Relief this year, right?
You're taking over from the Big Dog Len.
I'm not taking over from the Big Dog Len.
It's Lenny Henry's last year of doing it.
Right.
And I think it's eight of us hosting it.
How was it?
Have you all met
have you had like a dinner together
no
we've met on zoom
we had like a script read on zoom
and we've got another one next week
but it's going to be quite tricky for me
because I'm doing the Isle of Wight
no I'm not
doing the Isle of Man
the night before
oh wow
so I'm gigging the Isle of Man
and then I'm flying
the Isle of Man is one of my favorites
what a fucking room that is that's a great yeah it doesn't surprise me that you say that
when i last actually when i lasted the isle of man somebody said something like somebody heckled
and i really went in on them like quite heavy and uh then i went off in the interval and i felt
really bad about what I'd done.
This is quite funny, actually.
The geezer's a fucking legend.
So I spent most of the interval spiralling about how horrible I'd been to that guy.
So after the interval, I came out and I said, I was very honest with the crowd. I said, I'm going to be honest with you.
My interval was ruined by my behaviour.
And I said, mate, I really went in on you there and I'm really sorry.
And he went, he said, don't worry, I'm an absolute wanker.
It was...
That's the other man.
I loved it.
I thought it was great.
Yeah, it's good, man.
I loved it.
It's a great vegan cafe, though,
which I wish I could remember the name of,
but it was really good.
I'm sure, basically, that everyone there is so polite and lovely.
If you say the vegan cafe,
they'll probably as soon as you get off the flight,
they'll say, oh, yeah, by the way, we'll just drive past the Viking cafe, they'll probably, as soon as you get off the flight, they'll say,
oh yeah,
by the way,
I'll just drive past
the Viking cafe
because I know how,
you know.
It was actually
lovely Sandman Dennis,
Dennis Fernandez,
that found that place.
Yeah, of course.
We were there for two days.
He ate there five times,
I reckon.
Mate,
he properly fed another one.
Oh,
it's crazy.
It's insane.
He's so tiny as well.
Yeah, and he loves, we've talked about this before, I's insane. He's so tiny as well. Yeah.
And he loves,
he loves,
we've talked about this before,
I think,
but he loves lime pickle so much.
Yeah.
I am actually,
I'm actually tempted
to say
the next time we go to an Indian restaurant,
can you bring all of your lime pickle?
I just want to see if Dennis can eat it.
Like beard meets food or whatever.
He,
he,
he started,
he's really into his
I treated him
well
so yesterday
like
I ordered food
Dennis
had like a vegan
I can't remember
I think it's like a
pea protein wrap
are you talking about
Nando's by the way
yeah Nando's yeah
yeah the great imitator
yeah
great wrap
yeah so
yeah
looked lovely
I'd ordered
yeah and I'd loved that.
Nando's is pretty much my staple at the moment, pre-show.
I've ordered chicken wrap and I've ordered the same Gratz.
Gratz will often say I've served the same as you two.
I'm like, we're like brothers.
And they forgot to put Gratz's wrap in.
Are you okay?
Are you okay?
You said something quite innocuous there
and then chuckled to yourself
like it was the most profound thing
you'd ever said
I'm just thinking
about Cratchit's
sweet face
he gets excited
by things like this
he does yeah
but which makes
this story
ever more sad
food then comes
a great amount
of potatoes there
my wraps there
well one of the wraps
is there
which I ate
here we go
and now the mask
has slipped
well and truly
you've fucked yourself Mr Davis
you're so funny
you've leant forward you little toad
and you're like oh I'm going to fucking have him here
so a rap arrived
that was a rap that both you
and Gratz ordered the same rap
because as you said you're like brothers
but one of the
brothers is a
piece of shit
it turns out
also no one of
the brothers is
basically I can't
eat well this is
this the food
didn't come to
like ten to seven
if I can't wait
for another wrap
that's even more
reason for you to
give it to Gratz
he's a fucking
tour manager
he had the chips
you can't
oh my god this is bad no and then I called down to Graz. He's a fucking tour manager. He had the chips. You can't... Oh my God.
This is bad.
No,
and then I called
Nando and I was like...
This is bad.
This is bad.
So the rap arrived.
Listen,
you can't see this.
Tom is pulling
his jacket up
over his face
in shame.
So what happened?
I took my,
I said,
no,
because I grabbed my wrap
out quite quickly.
It's before we,
Of course you did.
Of course you did.
You didn't even fucking check
if all the order was there.
Wrap straight to Paul.
So I'm eating my wrap now
and then,
Fuck me.
Please tell me
you hadn't started eating the wrap
before you'd even realised
there was something missing.
Yeah,
no,
because it was in the top.
I just grabbed it out of the top
because I was so hungry.
I was starving.
Oh, my God.
Dennis, if I'm going to be honest, by the way,
Dennis wasn't much different.
Dennis has fucking gone straight in as well
on the fucking great imitator.
Well, he knows that he's the only one
that's ordered a great imitator, right?
Yeah, but yeah.
Ironically, the real great imitator was you,
imitating a brother of Gratz.
And then, like, I looked towards Gratz,
and Gratz is sort of like fuddling around
at the bottom of the sort of bag.
Yeah, yeah.
And he's like...
What did you do?
Did you chuck the bag on the floor
and go, just sort yourself out, Gratz?
No, no, because he had my sides in it.
And I'm like, what's up?
And he was like, I don't think they put my rap in.
And I went, that can't be true
so we looked in the two bags
and it wasn't like
any
his wrap was nowhere to be seen
so I was like
oh shit
I've started eating this
so in the two bags
across the two bags of food
yeah
no no no
it was cold food
and it was hot food
that's how that goes wrong
right
you've got your coleslaw
your dips
yeah
the little custard tart things
they come in a cold bag
pastel de nata
yeah
did you get those as well
yeah
Jesus
H Christ
you're not fucking about
and then
so then I try
and get in touch
with Nando's
to see if they've forgotten
well they have forgotten
one of the double wraps
then I'm like
did you finish eating yours first
before you got in touch
no no no
I had the phone open
as I was eating
right
were you slightly annoyed that it was ruining your enjoyment of your wrap having saw this one No, no, no, I had the phone open as I was eating. Right, right.
Were you slightly annoyed that it was ruining your enjoyment of your wrap?
That's just Gratz.
Gratz.
There's some dog treats in my bag.
If you want some Denzel's turkey pat, that's your thing, though.
No, but Gratz said I'd send my chips,
so I went out and grabbed something else.
I was like, I'm trying to get this sorted and he was like
you know Graz is a gentleman
yeah
and I
yeah he was like
look let me
I'll sort this out
and then he
yeah
he went off and
sort yeah
grabbed something
he went off out
to go and sort himself out dinner
no
because the other thing
about those wraps
is they split into two halves
very easily
no they don't
they're finely packed
if it had been two halves
I'd have easily given him,
or a pit hour,
I'd have given him half.
Yeah.
Okay.
And he had,
I think he had one of the custard tarts.
You know,
I don't know if it's Jake.
How gracious of you,
my liege,
you gave him one of the custard tarts,
did you?
Because at the moment,
when your brother's there,
it's your brother who sits,
Jason,
the other support,
doesn't eat with us as much
because Jason's on a real strict diet at the moment.
He's not allowed any sugar.
What's he eating?
He just has peanuts.
He's been really healthy.
He can't have any saturated fat.
He had his blood test done.
I might be spilling more.
Do you know what?
I think I might need to get a test.
I've not been tested in ages.
I did get a test
yeah you should
like the NHS
do it for you
you've got to have
an MOT one
you're nearly 50
yeah
you've got to
that thing is
you've got to be
have you had your
prostate done
no
ever
by coincidence
Lisa checked it
on my birthday
but that was
that was more recreation.
She doesn't know what's going on up there.
She can't be thinking about it up there.
You've got to go and...
You've got to...
More people should have it.
It blows my mind that people don't...
You've got to get...
Everyone's worried about it.
It's actually quite an enjoyable thing.
You turn up...
It's like anything.
If you treat it like, oh, shit, I'm really, really worried about it.
But if you go up and you have a bit of a laugh with the person before, it's actually quite fun. Yeah. It's like anything if you treat it like oh shit I'm really really worried about it but if you go up and you have a bit of a laugh
with the person beforehand
it's actually quite fun
yeah
so
I'd say
go along
get it done
get yourself tested
bloods
and prostate
and probably heart as well
get an ECG done
definitely for me heart
yeah definitely
yeah yeah
no no you've got to be
if you want
it's unlikely
I'm going to be around for long, I think.
But just based on family history.
Yeah, yeah.
So what I would say to the people that are worried about me
taking over from Claudia Winkleman,
I don't think I'm going to have a long stint.
Take some solace in that.
What they could do is fit you with a pacemaker.
That's a great idea.
That could be quite a different vibe for you.
But seriously,
look into that.
And also,
like I did say to Graz,
you know,
full disclosure,
you know,
next time,
we'll just pop somewhere together and we'll sit down and eat.
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You get this look when you're looking at emails
like someone who's just found porn for the first time.
No, it's just that I'm sort of, you know,
I'm just trying to get into the emails, you know what I mean?
Thanks once again to the lovely Swan.
The Swan has really stepped up.
What with the magnesium butter and the
sort of prostate she's really
that prostate thing was made up
I was going to say
as far as I know about Lisa
she's not a trained medical professional
I would suggest that
if I asked Lisa to
have a little wang around with my prostate
I would imagine
it wouldn't go
that well
um okay
she's a caring woman
if you're worried about
well I don't even know
what they're looking for
when they dig about
out there though
no I don't know either
lumps and bumps
and then you're
yeah but I think
she would find it weird
if I said
rather than going
to a doctor
if you want me
to come with you
I can
I'll sort it out
um can I think about that can i come
back to you on that all right uh dear wolf i'll cut out and swan this cat and swan this is from
the toothless tiger thanks to this one for picking this email if you do firstly i just wanted to send
an email to say thank you after a sports injury a few weeks back yesterday i had to sit in a dentist
chair for nearly three hours for a root canal i I've been through that pain. Not the best time of my life. However, I had saved up a few
episodes of the pod, stuck my airpods in and you sweet, sweet souls got me through what would have
otherwise been something I'd have really struggled with. So thank you. You're welcome, friend.
You're very welcome, Toothless Tiger. Moving swiftly on to the second, much better half of
this email. I recently got engaged.
Wowzer. Congratulations, friend.
My fiancé and I met at school almost 10 years ago when I was 16.
Oh, childhood romance.
Yes.
Everybody often asks, was it a difficult decision? Were you nervous to propose?
But honestly, it was so easy.
I was so excited and I just knew it was the right time and what I really wanted.
How do you think about how I'm reading this, by the way?
Yeah, I like it.
But I'm trying to interject with sort of like these cool little sort of...
No, I know that.
I know that.
Yeah.
We're now in...
Just have a go.
This is the last paragraph now.
So if you're planning on interjecting anymore,
this is like, you know, it's the finale.
Well, usually this could be the bit where it could be misjudged.
I'm just sort of waiting now to see what I say.
Well, what I can tell you is I've read ahead
and there's nothing too dark.
So feel safe.
We're now fully in the swing of planning the big day.
And I wondered whether...
And I wondered whether you have any suggestions,
recommendations or advice for weddings,
either from your own experiences
or weddings you've been to.
Any big do's or don'ts for the day.
I've only been to one wedding
and ours will be the first of our friendship groups,
so not much personal experience to go on.
Big thanks for any advice you have,
the Toothless Tiger.
Toothless Tiger, my friend, my liege,
my honourable companion.
First bit of advice I'll give you is this one.
Make it about the two of you.
When me and Catherine got married,
it felt like so many people interjected.
There was so much outside noise.
And frustratingly to this day,
I think we got lost in that a little bit.
And we sort of, I think,
maybe sort of went away from stuff we might have wanted
or people we might have wanted there to make other people happy.
And when I look back at it,
I sort of wish I'd sort of just been a bit more strict
and sort of like, yeah, sort of better judge of that myself.
I'd say a free bar is a really good, if you can afford like it's a good way of just
getting everyone sort of at it and having a drink and just like not listening for the whole night
just making sure you've got sort of drinks and everyone sort of gets into that that way of i
guess partying and feeling like it's a real celebration um i not my other bit i think i've
said this before is not losing the fact of what the day is.
It's not like, I think some people,
as I've just said this about,
but I think making sure everyone else is having a good time,
but also remembering why the two of you are there
and actually trying to spend as much of that day together
as you possibly can.
When me and Catherine got married,
a few of the times we just went off the two of us
and just let it soak in,
that we're married and you
know enjoyed those little moments together and that's not without leaving you know people you
know have had a drink and they're having a good time whatever but i think just making sure that
you sort of seek each other out and enjoy that time together remembering like what a massive
moment it is because i think it's it's an incredible thing you know to be married and and
um you know married and you know
spend the rest of your life together
fingers crossed such would and such
but yeah
and I think it's, I think my last
yeah my last
piece of advice was
I guess it's just making it truly individual
and truly not
just giving it, making it
feel like your day
and not succumbing to
putting pressure on
other people to do long Miranda
like
I was very fortunate with my best man
and he was, James was brilliant
and did a great speech and looked after us
he was perfect for everything
but I've been to these things before where people
have like, best man for the speeches
because the best man that they've picked
might not be as sort of in your face
or do you know what I mean?
They're not as confident about it.
And actually the best speech I've ever heard
from best man have tended to be quite from the heart
and not these sort of,
I can almost roast or sort of like
quite awkward things
to watch
I just think
yeah make it about you
enjoy it
have an amazing time
pick a good band
have a good party
and yeah
just remember
first and foremost
why you're doing it
because you've got
an amazing human being
standing next year
that you're going to
spend the rest of your life with
and this is the beginning
of an amazing journey
between you two
so have a good one.
God bless.
Shout out.
Let's get some wedding pictures sent in.
That'd be amazing.
Maybe like you could do it like where one of you does an impression of Romesh
and the other one does an impression of me.
And like, you know, not at the speeches or like during the ceremony,
but afterwards, like that could be quite fun.
So, yeah, go forth, go right and do that with love people
uh i was just about to say i haven't really got anything to say because i so wholeheartedly agree
with tom's advice and then he delivered 30 seconds what i described as absolute shite at the end
there what bit um what bit the bit about about them doing impressions of us that'd be cute that'd
be so funny.
Can you imagine anything funnier?
One of them's like,
oh, it's been a great day.
Oh, yeah, I've loved it.
Could be quite cool.
Obviously, at the Wolf and Owl,
my mission myself,
and yeah, we could.
That'd be fun.
Don't do that.
But what I would say is the advice am i do agree with tom is that you
can get very caught up in trying to make it an amazing day for everybody and at the end of the
day those people are there primarily to celebrate your wedding and uh they should be just happy that
they're there so you know do what you want to do and make sure you make it about you you guys and
obviously you want people to have a good time
but that should not come at the expense of you kind of taking the opportunity to celebrate what
you've got it's an amazing love story you two so you know have the wedding you want to have
do's and don'ts um i would just say don't just don't get too caught up in well my big don't is
uh is is don't get so caught up in talking to everybody else separately that you don't get too caught up in it. Well, my big don't is don't get so caught up in talking to everybody else separately
that you don't actually have any time together.
That would be my big one.
That's easily done.
I don't know how big your wedding's going to be,
but just be mindful of that, I would say.
And keep the speeches short.
That's a note for everybody.
It's very much diminishing returns in that game.
So if, you know, if the best man has got, like,
a 45-minute opus up his sleeve, I would have a serious word for him.
They're young kids, though.
They're young pups.
So I don't think that there's...
Let's hope so.
How long was your...
Have you done a best man speech?
I've done a couple, yeah.
Yeah, I think I've done one.
I feel like that's the one thing I'd like to really,
I've not been asked enough, I don't think.
Like, where I sit as well as sort of like on stag do's,
all through my 20s, I was like King Stag, right?
I was a fucking guy that everyone would want.
Like, you know, pretty first name down.
I was like the, you know, I don't know,
like fucking Paul Scholes or like Patrick Vieira of Stags
right
first name on the team
Jesus fucking Christ
sometimes
I honestly cannot believe
that we're friends
if somebody says to me
you've got to meet my mate Tommy
he's like the Patrick Vieira
of Stags dude
I go can I stop you there
I'm alright
yeah but
you know who you'd be
I think
who you'd be like I think? Who?
You'd be like that sort of...
I know who you think I'd be,
the fucking twat on the WhatsApp group.
We talked about this before.
Can everybody keep the fun organised?
No, but I think you'd actually...
The mistake that a lot of people make
is they get too carried away on the first night
and unfortunately, while that's fun on the first evening,
it does ruin the rest of the weekend
because you're very much playing catch up
you'd be like
you don't remember
Phil Neville had that
couple of good years
at United
where he was scoring goals
and playing really well
and it was like
fucking hell
Phil Neville's a good player
I think you could be
like the Phil Neville
of the stag
this is exactly
the sort of chap
that I'd be allergic to
I can imagine that
you calling me
Phil Neville
everyone's fucking like
oh my god
Tom's such a legend go on do the Phil Neville everyone's fucking like oh my god Tom such a legend
such a
go on do the Phil Neville stuff
well yeah
like you're like
you're like the shit brother
aren't you
but like
you managed to put
Tom out of it
then everyone's going
Vieira
oh
Vieira
oh
you stand up
fucking arms out in the air
the neck a pint
like a fucking prick
he's dressed in fucking drag
he's king of
the fucking stag
Vieira
um
no but
I would say that
he's first one
down the pub
he ate a foot
long sob
Vieira
no but
I was never asked
to be best man
really enough
which was the hours I put in the graft I put in as a friend I was never asked to be best man really enough which was
the hours I put in
the graft I put in
as a friend
I was like
this is
yeah
sometimes that's
quite a hard thing
maybe I was more like
I might actually
I'm probably more like
the Ray Parler
at this day
well you know
you weren't going to be
best man
but you were going to
have a very vital role
at my family
but you couldn't be
asked to come.
I was gigging in fucking Newcastle.
I know, but what I'm saying is...
When you were preparing it,
if you'd looked at my gig list
and gone,
I was off the weekend after.
Yeah.
All I'm saying is you had a very pivotal role in that.
Which I would have fucking loved to have done.
And now I've got to wait another 20 years.
I think less than 20 years. The way things are going, we're going to need to have a party every I've got to wait another 20 years I think less than 20 years
the way things are going
we're going to need to have a party
every year to be honest with you
do you fancy another knees up
to sort of kid ourselves
that there's some magic left in this
yeah
go on
well next time
oh you know what we should do
we should be doing a fake stag
for you next year
yeah
no I'm alright actually
thank you that
oh mate
did you ever have a proper stag do
no
er
no oh mate i'm gonna speak
to lisa about this do you know what have you got have you got her number i would love you to have
a chat with her about it oh he's cool what i'll go hey yo lisa and she'll go oh my god is that
tom and i'm like yeah yeah yeah you're right and she's like yeah like how are you i was like yeah
cool cool listen i've got big news
Tom is this the
is this the phone call
I've been hoping
you were going to make
for a few years now
well if that phone call
yeah
means the fact
I'm going to take
Romesh on the stag
that he never had
then yes
that's exactly
what it is
so
my first request
would have been
that you were coming around but as it is you're taking request would have been that you were
coming round
but as it is
you're taking him away
so that's a close second
I'm going to take him
to Vegas for a second
mate
we can fucking get
we can get Beckett
on the fucking firm
big Whit
Whitacombe
can't have other
fucking your brother
oh my
too smooth
Grax
yeah
it's not a bad shout
mate it should be
fucking cool bruv
we could do a live
podcast out there
probably with four
people in Vegas
that would think
about coming to that
we'd be able to do it
in one of our hotel rooms
mate it would be
fucking banging
so look
people have
the listeners
of the podcast
if you think
Romesh should have
a
the stag do he's
always dreamed of
messaging
and say
or emailing
and say
let's give Rom the stag he needs.
Yeah.
And we will 100% go by
whatever the emails say.
Yeah.
All good, baby.
Or if we can't do Vegas
I think we could go to Barcelona.
Hmm.
Okay, let's have a think about it.
I'll look at it.
I'll make some calls, right?
And I promise this.
It's not going to be shit.
We're going to just fucking
just to go to Go Ape or something. It'll be fucking cool, man., right? I promise this, it's not going to be shit, like we're going to just fucking, just to go to Gabape or something,
it'll be fucking cool, man,
all right?
Okay,
Tomo,
it's about that time.
Bonjour,
merci,
je ne sais quoi,
words in a foreign language
that I understand,
but maybe I should understand more,
maybe I should open my mind more and try and learn a foreign language that I understand, but maybe I should understand more. Maybe I should
open my mind more and try and learn a foreign language. Got me thinking the other day as I was
walking through London, and someone asked me directions in a foreign tongue, in a broken
accent. They couldn't understand me, nay less I couldn't understand them. And it made me think,
should I be more open? Should I start pushing myself, my boundaries, my mind?
And then it came to me, silently almost, just as I strolled past this person
after giving them the directions to Nighttown and walked away,
that actually, you know what?
I managed to converse with this person, not necessarily with words,
but by showing them my phone with a general smile
and a reassurance tap on the shoulder,
a wink,
and a thumbs up.
See, that's the language
we all understand
no matter where you're from.
And that's, guess what I'm trying to say
at the end here
of this podcast,
this opus,
that if you can't speak another tongue
or word sometimes,
leave you.
One thing to always think of is this. be kind just be decent smile it's always good to just put an arm around someone a thumbs up a laugh a rub
of the hair and say go forth be good and if nothing else although we don't speak the same language we're friends now beautiful
beautiful stuff from Tom Davis
to play us out Tom and I
the wolf for now everyone
here would like to offer our sincerest
congratulations to Cass
is dead for his Brit
award win
oh my god
it's fucking great
absolutely great
JT
can you play
Pineapple Juice
by Cass is Dead
to take us out of the show
guys
we'll see you next time
by the way Tom
we didn't talk about it
my internet
fully functional now man
beautiful by the way
lovely smooth
scroll
makes a real difference
doesn't it
I felt better
you felt better
just great times
really great times
beautiful thing all round
hey
by the way by the way,
friend, can I say something?
Yeah.
I goddamn love you, brother.
Love you too, my G.
Thank you so much
for all the Claudia Winkleman fan support.
You keep the wind in my sails.
Take care of yourselves.
See you soon.
See you, friends.
Bye-bye. love to give you that kind of love when i'm high fighting it's kind of tough to see my search history when i'm on the stuff looking at you on that bed all the nasty shit is running through
my head i said i drink the juice for you the plan was for you to drink something else instead
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