Wolf and Owl - S3 Ep 23: Sapplebins & Red Velvet Toothpaste

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

We’re talking… underground Disney films, annoying Wolf & Owl catchphrases, Bill Burr in Unfrosted, memorising Robin Hood Prince Of Thieves, impressing girls with raps, Tom’s 90’s boyband, the rights and wrongs of ‘edgy’ toothpastes, the amazingness of mint, a margarita thief and bad drunks. Plus, we play two banging country and western covers of our theme tune and answer an email question about first a relationship whilst at university. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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They stay dressed to kill, never sheep's clothing Dark enough to turn the sun to the moon, you'll see nothing All you hear's a h as a bird and a dog Oh, hello, friends Hello, friends and supporters And just members, various assorted members of the Animal Pack I like to think the wolf and myself are sort of sat on a sort of a stump in the middle of the woodland And the animals have all gathered around to hear

our address. You're standing on a toadstool, cross-legged, cheeky in your way, and effervescent. Yeah, and then I say, Wolf, you know that's not a word. I let out a big howl and I scamper through a lake and fish bound around me. I've just been watching that film. Have you seen the film Luca? Yes I have yeah. It's pretty nice isn't it? Yeah it's pretty nice isn't it? Underrated. Yeah I got very sad at the end.

Yeah it's a weird one isn't it because you sort of like, like the Pixar Disney movies whatever that you sort of you know Frozen, Frozen, you know, all that sort of old classics, Little Mermaid and stuff. It's like we've done those and now we're sort of like starting to sort of slip down into the sort of lesser known ones. I quite enjoy that. I was quite enjoying Luca. What do you mean?

What do you mean? Well, Luca's not as big a one as Frozen or it's not, it's not being a blockbuster. It's a sort of bit more an underground one, right? Yeah, I mean, I think underground is pushing it a bit. But yeah, it's not one of the big ones. I do feel like I do feel like picks are slightly a victim of their own sort of success in that they constantly churn out incredible. But there is a world in which Luca comes out when a lot of these other films haven't come out

and absolutely blows everyone away. Yeah. But because because we're so used to, we've become so blasé about seeing technical and storytelling excellence, that a film like Luca, which is a fucking great film, right? That is sort of like, that is described by you as underground. Yeah, but it's like, I wouldn't even been aware I mean look you know we're

yeah trying to sort of try to just because otherwise you just end up watching Toy Story and Frozen every other day. Yeah I mean there are Luca is like Luca's a better story than Toy Story arguably. Yeah for one standalone film and it's heartbreaking. I don't want to give any spoilers. Everyone should go and watch Luca. It's good. It's good. What I would say... What I would say...

Fuck it. I need to get out of these little habits. Your tropes. Your catchphrases. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What I would say, to be honest with you, can I just stop you there? Well, I would agree with that. The truth is... The truth is, yeah. Why did I say any of that stuff like that? This has been a terrible episode that that's another one of my catchphrases My energy's been low on this one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah apologies listeners

Forty-four over the last hour stuff like that something along that just oh, yeah, we're not doing that feature anymore That's another that's what both of us, that's a catchphrase. Yeah. No, no, I usually set up the feature and then just do a reference of that. We've not done it anymore. Go ahead, go ahead, my friend. My learning friend. The Good Dinosaur is not a great film. Really? Yeah. Have you watched it? No, no, no. I've not seen it, yeah. We very much enjoyed B-movie. I've seen it before,

but we watched that the other day. Yeah. Did you watch Unfrosted? I have, yeah. I watched it. I very much enjoyed it. I really liked it. Well, I mean, I didn't think it was like, oh God, I didn't think it was hilariously funny,

but it's a pleasant enough watch, isn't it? It's like, it's like warm bath television, right? I thought, yeah, I thought it was just, it was nice to see some faces, but I just enjoyed for what it was I thought Jim Gaffigan was brilliant. Yeah, I do I also He's also in Lucas. Oh, yeah Okay, two for ones on the old Jim Gaffigan. I'm Melissa McCarthy was really Two for one. It's two for two. It's two separate. Oh, yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah. Yeah one for one, it's two for two. It's two separate films. Oh really? Yeah. One for two, yeah.

Yeah, one for one really. He was in two separate movies that he happened to watch. But I'm a big fan of Breakfast Cereal, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anything that's in that world, I'm sort of. You know who's actually amazing in it? Bill Burr. Bill Burr's version of JFK is maybe my favorite thing

I've seen. Yeah, no, that's good. Sorry, I've just, I'm going to shut down. You've really fucking, you've got two fitting on a bird there. No I haven't, a bird was great. What are you talking about, a bird's one of my favorites. Don't say that. I bet Bilba was great and you went, he was alright, you know. No I didn't say it. Look, Bilba was great. Sorry, it's just that you said it's the best thing you've seen

Like I was like, it's my favorite ever a politician political Movie performance. It's your favorite Since JFK is your political political movies and shit Yeah, I like what Bill Burr's done now. I really enjoyed okay. What a massive compliment. So bill burr is the best what Bill Burr's done that I really enjoyed. Okay, what a massive compliment. So Bill Burr is the best political portrayal you've seen better than any of the other political movies that you've seen that you don't really like. Since Jeff K. Since Jeff K.

Since Jeff K. Yeah, yeah, okay. Great, all right. Were you a fan of Kostner? You like Kostner? Do I like Kostner? How can you not like Kevin Kostner? Yeah, he's got a vibe, doesn't he? I mean, he's brilliant in everything. Listen, we can talk endlessly about the fact they didn't bother to even attempt to knotting him accent in that Robin Hood film.

What was that called? I used to know every word, Prince of Thieves. I used to know every word of that movie off my heart. Did you? Yeah. I used to think that was cool. I went to watch it and about three or four times in cinema. As soon as VHS came out, I memorized it all. And then I used to sort of sit sometimes. After I'd been going out with someone for a while, or sort of seeing someone, if I thought the relationship was going somewhere, I'd say, I'll come with mine. And I'd put on, Rollin' Her Prince of Thieves,

and sort of like almost, like a karaoke, I'd sort of talk along with the video, like I knew what I was coming next. Because you wanted to bring the relationship to an end? Or what? No, I thought that was cool. I thought that was like, someone would go, fuck, well, you know every word of this off by heart.

Like, retrospect now, I'll look back and think. Even, look, look, I was gonna say, even for them being who you were then like when you sort of see things that you think might be cool it's because you've seen it in a film like I remember being obsessed with wearing this is so tragic wearing an open shirt over a t-shirt because I'd seen it in a film and I thought that was the ultimate like sexy that looks coming back by the way that was yeah that, that is a look for this summer.

Yeah, because I'd seen it in a film. What I hadn't seen in a film is somebody impressing a woman by knowing a film backwards. And not even a, not even a, not even a cool film, Prince of Things. Not even like Point Break or something. And then, and then also you've got to think about it from the girl's point of view.

You've gone, shall we watch this? It's not like she's gone. It'd be one thing if Prince of Thieves happened to be on. And you start, by the way, also tragic, by the way, if you know the words to that. Maybe it happened by accident. What's happened is you've gone, shall we watch Prince of Thieves?

No, no, I'd, look, this would roll out, right? Okay. I'd be lucky enough that if I'd known someone, like I'd be like, oh wow, look, I'd look, this is how it would roll out, right? I'd be lucky enough that if I'd known someone, like I'd be like, oh, well, look, this feels like I've actually met someone who, you know, things are sort of like, you know, growing as feelings are growing between us. So like, you know, oh, Sunday, do you want to pop round mine?

Yeah, yeah, that sounds cool. Sort of like, you know, go out tomorrow. Did you used to have like a TV and video in your room, VHS? In my room? Yeah, like a DVD. Yeah, I thought that was like, you know, big fucking moment there, and that you feel like you're fucking owning life.

And then I'd be like, oh. I remember getting a TV in my room and thinking, I don't think life's gonna get any better than this ever. And sadly, I was absolutely correct. I remember getting like an NES and thinking, fucking hell, I probably don't even need to leave here. I know. I remember thinking, I remember thinking this, it can't get better than this. It cannot get better than anyway, God.

And then some other DVD player or, you know, video, VHS and then you let you go, what do you want to watch? So it's like you put something edgy that's sort of, you know, with VHS and then you let you go what you want to watch so it's like you put something edgy that's sort of you know like a fucking poltergeist kind of vibe out there you wouldn't want to watch that um yeah it's kind of other things and go oh have you seen robin and prince of thieves with the vague hope that they'd go no no i've not seen it oh it's a really good movie and then put it on and then slowly like you would like start fucking like repeating everything what they're saying before it came on until you could see that everyone join it as much you were and then you start fucking dropping like a little bit you know I'm gonna like you probably did with raps so

like a rap would start and you'd be like you know you wait till the fucking the chorus kicked in and then you start rapping along, right? I would say that as sad as I was, had I been with someone I liked or was into, I probably would have hidden the fact that I knew all the worst or something like that. I think that'd be something that I would push deep down and sort of resist the urge to try and- I'm not sitting here now saying it's something

I think's really cool, but there's a part of me that- No, listen, I've not got here now saying it's something I think is really cool. No, listen, I've not got an issue with you not, it's not about whether you think it's cool or not now. That's not my debate. The debate is the fact that you thought it was cool even then. That's what I, it's easy to look back on it now and go that was pathetic and I think we can both agree that it was. The fact that even at that time... If I'm honest with you, I struggled to... I was terrible in this sort of scenario anyway. So to the thought that I would think that it was...

I'd been in a situation where someone sort of liked me despite all the other fucking shit was going on with fucking the goofiness and the sort of that then on top of that like to make myself even more repellent I thought it was actually quite sexy to sit there. I know and all it takes with these things sometimes and I've done the same thing I've written raps to girls in the past um like and given it to them in a note and then all it takes is a little bit of Thinking what that would feel like for that girl to show her friends or talk about what you've done to her friends for example The girl that I was sort of into saying to one of friends. Oh, he wrote me a rap in a letter

That that's that is something you don't want to have to say Similarly I watched a film with him. Have you seen Prince of Thieves? Well, I think he has a thousand times because as we were sat there watching it, he started doing the dialogue alongside the film. I would say, by the way, that your rap in a letter, there's ways that you could talk about that

that could be quite sexy. So that could be quite, that could be seen as romantic. That could be seen as you're right in your own piece right? Can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I can I written a rap about me and like, oh my god, pathetic. Do you know what Tom did? What? Well, Tom invited me around, we had some pizza, and then we sat in front of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, and he basically spoke every word before he was coming out. So much so that it actually ruined the film completely because he was quickly trying to, yeah. At some points I could mute the screen and then do it

and then I'd rewind the scene and go, now what's that? Oh, my God, Tom. I very rarely have I really wanted to spend some time working on a time machine. But that has come up now. Oh, yeah, I genuinely look back now and I just think and also that by the way, that was something I kept to myself for quite a long time. Now that's just that neither. Yeah, it's Yeah,

well, okay, well, what I would say is to make you feel a little bit better. I do remember one of the opening lines to one of the letters. Oh, wow. It went something like, it went in certain name of girl that were like whatever the name of the girl was. I want it. I want you to know you're not a hoe or a bitch. Jesus. Jesus. Wow. Jesus! Wow! It's all done. So, I'm sitting here with a mum and dad going, Oh, good to have a letter from Ramesh Ranganathan.

Oh, that's sweet. What's he said? I want you to know you're not a hoe or a bitch. That's the confirmation we needed. The second nice word. What? Yeah, I wanted you to know you're not a hoe or a bitch. Do you know what, by the way, by the way, there's a sweet innocence to my fucking goofballness there. There's a sweet innocence of a dick in the face.

Tom, Tom, Tom, listen, can I tell you something? Your decision to go front footed is so badly timed, I'm telling you this to make you feel better. And then like a fucking schoolyard bully, so if you sniff a weakness, you fucking put your shit kickers on and start fucking stovin my head in I'm doing I'm saying this to help you out because I felt bad for you right no no you know what I'm doing in return you sat forward you sat forward right licking your chops They always have to be such an innocent so my goofiness you fucking horrible man disgusting Guy what's the second line so did it there you know a hoe or a bitch

Plus I wanted to let you know you turn me on like a switch. Oh my god. Wow, bro. It's bad. She's not reading that in front of her parents is she? No, no. Mainly because that particular girl didn't want to. Yeah, but that's that's kind of like, that's kind of a cool, that's quite a cool thing to, how old were you when you wrote that?

23, 24. Sorry, such a root one joke. I think I was like 15 or something like that. Still too old to be doing that sort of stuff, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But still... If I'm honest with you, 15, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. We, I, at that sort of time... Actually, fucking this is...

I think I was probably trying at the moment, at that point, I was trying to set up a sort of boy band to sort of rival something like that and We had like a really awful We had a um I think we talked about this before didn't we? About you having a boy band? No, no, but I tried writing songs. I've got to try and find that song book actually but um

I tried writing songs. I've got to try and find that song book actually. But yeah, we had a little, we tried to sort of like do the thing where we tried to set up a board. Board bands were massive back then, right? New Kids on the Block, Take That, fucking all the other ones. Yeah, we just thought like the kind of guys

out of South London could really, you know, E-17 I suppose was one of our biggest. I'm very surprised. Yeah, I mean, I had a band, I had a rap metal band. I suppose is our biggest I'm very surprised Yeah, I had a bad I had a rap metal band I've told you rap metal is it like this and it like yeah, I could see a rap metal band being quite cool and crawly Cool, I mean look at time now There's still say well take that could sing they could dance and they were all quite attractive Yeah, if

Fucking honest right wrong in our boy band, I was the sexy one. I couldn't read it. I had like greasy long curtains. And yeah, it was a fucking look, Rob. We had a song we used to sort of think was cool and it used to go Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da Bins What are those words you think? Sapple bins, I don't know what it is Sapple bins? What? I don't know where it came from Sapple bins? You're gonna say it's catchy

No I'm asking, I'm asking this a question It's not suddenly got locked in my head It's not an earworm I'm asking you what the words are I have no idea what sale Bins even means. One of the songwriters of the group came up with it. Sapple Bins? Yeah.

Was that the name of the song, Sapple Bins? Yeah, that one was, yeah. That was all we had at that time. We had some other songs. Yeah, I don't know where he came up with Sapple Bins. Yeah, but what's the meaning of the song? I think, like, that was what we, for a while that was the only song.

Then I started going, I went away and wrote some other songs, which I have still. I've still got the old songbook. I think we've talked about it before. Yeah, I've got the old songbook. Yeah, the sapper bins. Then the sapper bins. Then I mean, it's quite catchy, right?

I mean, you're going to and then when you do put some words in there, it's nonsensical, just bullshit. It's weird. I've made a career out of that now. Want visibly glowing skin in 14 days? With new Olay Indulgent Moisture Body Wash, you can lather and glow. The 24-hour moisturizing body wash is infused with Vitamin B3 Complex and has notes of rose and cherry crème for a rich, indulgent experience.

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What? Red velvet cake flavoured tooth. What are you getting angry for? Because this is just a fucking constant in it now. What do you mean? In life, we got toothpaste was right, mint was where we were at with toothpaste peppermint strong toothpaste no Matt what bring up then because you know like toothpaste is meant to be because because I was just asking for your opinion on it I about a year ago two years ago saying it's on the task

that is strawberry flavored toothpaste it was fucking, I was absolutely, I could bet we had a nice breakfast, had the toothpaste, walked downstairs, I was like, I'm done here. It was like when you watch Four in a Bed, and someone's like, something really sticks in. I was like, if I had to leave a review, be on Never Seen These People Again.

Well, I think they've had a bit of a result there. I think I might start putting strawberry toothpaste in my bathroom, because that's what it guarantees. But just Lisa going to me, how the fuck are we going to get rid of Tom? I've got an idea, actually. Can I tell you now, your teeth, I bet they don't feel clean. I thought they wouldn't, but they actually feel all right.

It does feel a bit like you're brushing your teeth with cake batter, though. I would say that. I mean, it does taste. Why would you want that? There's nothing like a feeling of brushing your teeth with that fresh mint, and at the end go oh mate feels so clean and luscious yeah that's what mints for well by the way

mint is an incredible herb it's what we should like fucking oh let's stop shout out mint let me see I mean it mints probably the best thing in the world you know I feel sorry for me well i don't know decided to use mint in like two i feel like you know what we heard about them what i've got a credit what i've got a lot where's the movie as you can see whose idea was to put mint in i'm actually going to come up with a film called a mint man just giving that bloke a bit of credit because he's got a fair play with him

do you know what i mean he's like he's put mint everywhere and now you know a lot has changed as the result of the poor little geezer that we don't even know the name of. I just think Mr. Travesty is one of the greatest injustices in modern civilisation. 1870. 1870. Washington Sheffield. What a cool name as well.

That's his name? His name was Washington Sheffield, yeah. Two great cities he was named after. Yeah. So yeah, look, but mint, right? Mint's doing a lot of heavy lifting and a lot of good cocktails, right? Fucking amazing for sweets. Incredible, obviously for toothpaste, great in a salad. Fucking yeah. I just I can't see a red velvet cake. I love red velvet cake as a cake, not something I would brush my teeth with. Okay. It's not it's got a place don't get me wrong. But if I came in your house. And you gave me a red velvet cake to eat. I go fucking Oh, that's lovely. Thank you so

much. I'll shake yours at least his hand. Right. And then if I was on the guy brush my teeth, I then had to brush my teeth with bed felt I'll be like this is a red velvet overload. This is insane. Hmm. No, I understand. I mean, how's your mouth feel now? It feels great. It feels really good. I mean, you're reacting. I understand. How's your mouth feel now? It feels great, feels really good. I mean you're reacting, I would say the level of anger that you're reacting with is equivalent to if I just said to you, by the way Tom, for the rest of your life you'll have to brush your teeth with red velvet toothpaste. If we just rewind to what I said was, I brushed

my teeth this morning with red velvet toothpaste and it's a to this absolute fucking diatribe by you massive overreaction. Wait, I just don't know why that anyone's doing it. It's like like these people are scientists, and very fucking academic people. There's other shit I can be getting on with rather than like somebody like, Oh, guess what I've done? Oh, have you got a cure for this horrible disease? No, no, no, I've just worked out. Oh, this. This argument about you can't work on anything apart

from curing a horrible disease is such bullshit. Mate, okay, alright. But yeah, next week you come on and you go, oh my god you're not going to fucking believe this. I had the pie that combines onion, pickle, cheese, pork and beef inside a turkey shell. Now listen, let me tell you something, right? I want to say this to you now, that bloke or woman or whoever it may be that coated that pie, they are the greatest human being in the history of civilization. I doff my cap to you. I present my child to you for a kiss. Absolutely incredible. A lot of game changer, absolute game changer. Mate, mate, I'd rather be that

than fucking tickling the fucking chin of a person who's like destroyed the idea of toothpaste. It's been destroyed. Let me tell you something, first of all. I'm gonna tell you now. You sit in there and go, help me shrink. I know what it is. You're trying like it's there in the fucking aisle. You're trying to be edgy and cool. You're

showing off. How am I showing off? I bought some toothpaste, brought it home and brushed my teeth with it. No, no, no, no, no. That's a big decision. Red velvet toothpaste makes you want to get the woman at Boob. So when you got there she went, anything else? No, no, no, just a red velvet toothpaste please, just try new things.

That's exactly what happened there. That's not what happened. First of all, let me tell you what happened. I was with my son, one of my sons. Which one? Alex, right? We went and shot, we're in the, we're going, we're just wondering about having a little shot and then we come across this toothpaste brand that does different flavours, right? So I said to him, do you fa-, because obviously dental hygiene's important, it's good to instil in kids.

So I said to him, Alex, do you fancy trying out one of these? And he said, yes, Dad, I do, his little eyes lit up. And he said, could I try the watermelon one? And I go, yeah, of course you can. And then he which ones you what do you get one dad and I said oh they got red velvet and he goes why don't you try the red velvet so I said alright so I got the red velvet I feel bad now because actually quite like I was about to go in on you but actually quite a sweet story well you know it is a sweet story if you'd have halted putting in your steel-toed boots to kick the fuck out of me just for a few seconds.

The rest of the story, you might have realised what the context of it was. Actually, yeah, you were trying to bond with your son by buying an edgy toothpaste. What I would say though is that whatever that toothpaste is, they've got an issue with it being nixed because they have security tags all over the stuff. Really? Yeah. Did you do the thing of going Alex can I try your watermelon one you could try the red velvet one. No but I did have that sad sort of, not sad, we had a conversation about what we thought. I know it sounds really harsh as well, it's like that

become your thing for a little while where you and Alex try out edgy toothpaste and then there'll come a day in like about six months where you go Alex the old chocolate brownie toothpaste is running out then we'll have to pop down and get some more and Alex is like no I'm alright dad that'll be it, do this mate, so Alex is just sat in the liver room with his friends Alex, Alex, I found a new one today. It's a Victoria sponge. Do you want to come off and have a little brush now? Alex, have you said to the boys about more brushing their teeth with your raspberry lemonade toothbrush? Boys, just so you know, I hope you're looking forward to your little sleepover. I hope you're popping out for a little bit.

When you come back, I'll actually take liberty of getting a little select show of dental pastes for you to try out. I thought it might be a nice end to the night after you've had a tablet. A toothpaste buffet, if you will. Make sure you brush once you're sure that you've finished having your little snacks that I've left out for you. Got some crisps from the World Food Hall, chilli and lemon, dances on the palate, I think you've found. Um, sorry, I was trying to get a think, could you put some trousers on please?

It's called a sarong boys, it's actually quite, it's actually quite popular in the country, I regulate from. Sorry, am I, am I manspreaded? Apolodary. Um, and then just fast forward to you standing in boots and someone walking up and going hello Mr Regulated, no Alex with you today. No he's not really into the old toothpaste anymore. Just get a one today. It's sad isn't it because that side of things because you have those moments

where things are like you know exciting and yeah I guess then you'll just Charlie will be kind of toothpaste sort of coliseum with you. I don't I don't I don't I don't I wouldn't I'd have to find something new do you know what I mean I can't say well it looks like it looks like I'm turning my I can't say, well, it looks like I'm turning my toothpaste focus to you, Charlie. Congratulations. So I'm all right, Dad. Do you want to fuck off? Just standing outside your boy's room, just him going, why is he so fucking excited about toothpaste?

Oh, look at this. Look at this. Oh, look at this! Just by their shut bedroom doors, just trying to get him to open the doors Oh look at this one! Cherry Bakewell tart! Well I never! Black Forest Gato!

Well I never, I didn't think that he'd be able to do this! Lisa, I'm going I sit you down and go, um, that, Ron, um, you're going to have sort of toothpaste. All of the boys have stopped brushing their teeth. It's a dirty protest. This is broken. Can you just, can you just give them some mint toothpaste and genuinely shut the fuck up about it? I'm begging you.

I am begging you. Can I ask you a question as to what you'd have done in this situation I'm about to present you with? Okay, okay my learning friend. I had a weekend in Ireland and Northern Ireland. You can say I had family that came to watch you one night and they messaged me just saying that it blew them away. I mean they messaged you this in a very sweet way. sweet I family who came to watch you traveled three counties to come and watch you in Dublin Well, I didn't come and watch me when I played 20 minutes at the road in their county But they said that happens to me that happens to me a lot. I was really but they said you blew them away They said it was a pretty well. They had an amazing evening. So, you know, well, I'm my brother

That's very nice. That's very nice of you. But Thank you. Anyway, we we we were in the second night in Dublin. We were sat in a hotel having a couple of drinks. I'd ordered a... It was a bit of a weird maverick decision. I had a couple of Guinnesses and then decided to have a margarita for some reason. Anyway, I was sat... Yeah, ballsy.

So, I was sat in the bar. We're approached by I was with Graz the wonderful Graz Jason our sound guy and Rob Percy was was Graz on the Guinness grass was on the is grass his idea actually To try and not try the Guinness but to get on the Guinness anyway We're sat in this hotel bar and this woman came up to us. I would say she's probably in her 60s. Very drunk. Very drunk, right? Started talking to us about... She didn't recognise me by the way. She just came over because she was going to talk to everyone, right?

I like something like that in the bar. I think it's a cool vibe. So anyway, she started telling us about how rich she was and how she's descended from wealth. And she starts talking about how she basically lives at the hotel because she's got so much money. Have you heard of my family? She lived full time there? That's what she said, yeah. I'm getting this holiday in yeah it's not big it's a YMCA anyway she was like she's she just kept talking, talking, talking. And then she sort of clocked. She said to me, you're a comedian. Oh, no, she goes, I recognize you. I recognize you.

And I said, I'm a comedian. She goes, Oh, my God. She goes, it's my birthday party next month. Will you come? I'll give you and then she looked at the four of us because I'll give you a million pounds each to come and play my birthday party. Yeah, she says this, right? I'll give you a million pounds each to play the birthday party. So we're just sort of humoring this conversation. But it went on for a long time, right? She'd hijacked the evening.

This is the bit where, I don't know, man. Like, I felt, I just sort of, she was ruining the evening because she was like The conversation but at the same time I don't want to be rude to this woman right because it's not it's not on Anyway, she looks at my drink and she says what you drinking? I said I'm having a margarita goes what's that and then picks it up and takes a massive glug out. Whoa Wow, and then just goes I thought you were gonna go like Debbie Moore sort of way, but you know Wow, and then just cuz I thought you were gonna go like Debbie Moore sort of way, but you know So Debbie Moore film and she offers you like a million pounds to see these little thing

No, no, is that that would have been in a different sort of open with it Just sexy have sex this weekend. So I did let me tell you about So she's she's drunk out of your drink that's fucking insane I. I know. And then she's gone, it's fucking, that is fucking horrible. That is horrible. Wow. And then I was just like, she didn't ask, man. She just picked it up. And what are we talking, a sip or a gulp? No, I'm talking gulp. I'm talking gulp.

That's it anyway. Well, that's a nice sipping drink. No, I mean, you've done your gulping. You've gulped your Guinness. Now you're sipping. I've gone through the gulping part of the evening and now I've moved on to sipping. Yeah yeah but you can only gulp for so long and then the sip has to kick in and that part of the evening for me is my favourite because you know at some point with the sipping there's a good chance you're gonna go into shotting and if the shotting starts then you're... Well we didn't move to shotting. Yeah the sipping bit then you've got a whole lot of people. We didn't move to shotting.

Yeah, the sipping bit of the night, that's my favourite bit. Sweet spot, sweet spot. Anyway, she, thankfully, she decided to move on. She said I'll be back in a bit. I'm going to have a cigarette. Do you know what, by the way, that is the common fucking line of this sort of helmet. What is like well that they want to move on they want to fucking go and ruin someone else's night but they they they don't have any fucking social fucking intellect to just go I'm ruining this night so they

they kind of go oh right well I'm just gonna go over there but I'll be back here in a minute and they've said that to every fucking table and like like that and they think what they're doing is they're pausing everyone else's evening while they sort of whisk around this fucking almost like a ballroom like Beauty and the Beast going from table to table spreading light what actually happens is you hear a fucking sigh of relief as they move on to the next table yes and then then it's then sipping becomes gulping and downing because you're like if they come back let's find another bar let's find something let's go to someone else's room to drink. Yeah, I did see her the next morning. Wow. And she blanked me. So you shouldn't blank you. She had no recollection. She talked to

everyone. She probably spent an eight hour shift to talking to different people. Yeah, maybe. But do you think I should have said something to her about the drink? Or do you just let that shit slide? What, in the morning? No, not in the morning. I mean, at the time. No, I'm gonna tell you now now man, I've got my fucking experience with drunks. What she's done there with trying your drink is, there's an element of, I don't

think negging is a word I'm trying to think of, what she's done there, she's done an epic gulp. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you were to tell her, hey what you doing? Then it would become something. She's done that for a reaction. And also it's like a whirlwind of, yeah, if I'm gonna be, there's a part of me that feels quite sorry for her because she's clearly quite lonely and that's why she's drinking a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's a weird thing. I had a thing which I was like, wasn't really good, I'll sort of message you about this, but it was when it was my birthday the other week, we went out, me, Grace and Catherine, went for some nice food, had some nice food. And we were walking through a high street to go and get some ice cream after.

And we, Greg, Catherine had walked on, I was walking with Grace, like holding her hand and sort of like, you know. And there's this fucking guy outside a pub,'s quite nice after he's outside the front of the pub and he jumps up quite you know full-on he went all right I'll get picture you only get self view of you stops me this I'm like well man like well Gracie's looked up at him like because he's quite loud I'm like hey hey I'm with my kid I'm with my kid and he went well I was gonna get self you

get yourself a quick get yourself with me and get back. I said no. No, we're not doing that man Did you say that? Yeah, I'm like the crazy is looking at him terrified. Yeah, literally jumped up That's it. Just like I'm with my family bro with my kid. She's too like I'm like whatever man. I kept on walking. He shat something out. I'm like mate I'll tell me I'm with my family like and if I'm honest before like And I'm like whatever man I kept on walking he shat something out and I'm like mate I tell him I'm with my family like and if I'm on his run before like whatever I'm always social I would always chat but and if he just said sorry mate it's alright I'll get a picture I've done his picture his demeanor was I was like whatever. Grace is a bit like not shaken but she's a bit like what's just happened type thing because he was so loud

in his way. Anyhow fast forward to this Saturday night I come out of the gig in Liverpool at a lovely time Liverpool's love shattered. We've had more than one email about how incredible it was. It was amazing and it was amazing thank you the response was yeah but anyway I don't get like this guy's been responded on a couple of different social medias. Basically saying, like, we're like, you know, Facebook or whatever, or Instagram, trolling me about the fact that I didn't get a selfie with him. He's obviously drunk again. So sort of responded.

Do you have any idea what he shouted to you, by the way, when you're walking off? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I walked away. I don any idea what he shouted to you by the way when you're walking off No, no, no, no, no, I walked away I don't know what he shouted it was just it was just like to me and I say man if If he was if he was respected like nice and you know, I'd have said look, you know what? Let me go. I'll go get an ice cream with my kid and I'll probably walk back and if you're still here Yeah, I think and yeah, I'm like you know I get it that's a you know his his response was so aggressive and then he's doubled down and then become quiet so I've responded to him on one of the things of being like man like you know

if you think that's acceptable behavior but you know I think where you're like it kind of bothers me on the way that I realize that that's that's something that in our job right I realize that what's something in our job, right? I realize that what we do for a living and if people are respectful, I'll always be respectful back. What frustrates me is he's clearly taking something else from this. And you know what? I was with your brother and I was with Ali. And essentially, the come down of that, seeing his trotting, was like... And the thing that frustrates me, I'm like,

you know what you're just like, there's a part of me that wants to just go, well, do you know what, I want to sit with you and say to you what part of you thinks that that's acceptable? That is behaviour. Like, it's not, it's not cool, man. It's like, it's aggressive. Yeah, and in the same way that you're talking about this lady who's come to you, it's like alcohol in that scenario becomes such a sort of cover of like facilitating that sort of behavior what that lady's done if you're sober and if she was to sit down at

breakfast and you've got an orange juice and I go what was the orange juice like and have a taste of it would be insane right because it's alcohol to facilitate in this sort of character that they build around themselves it becomes quite a sort of yeah and sometimes I think yeah maybe that needs calling out a little bit you know you have to sort of say well yeah yeah I mean I would say that but then I would say that but then on the other hand I've made an absolute dick of myself and I've been drunk I mean it's just it's just it's just but I mean I thought but then by way, like in your scenario's point, with that guy, I'm like, I have made a dick out of,

well, yeah, I've done that. But then I live the next two weeks in absolute fear of how my behavior was and feeling like just so solely embarrassed. What I don't do is double down on the fucking idiot decisions I've made and almost think, well, that's socially acceptable and that's just how being drunk is, you know.

How's it been left with you and your new friend? I responded to him, he's not responded back, but I deleted a lot of his comments I've deleted because I just, I find that's just like a mental health thing, right? I'm like, yeah. But yeah, I'm like, yeah, I find it, it's just a crazy thing. And it's weird, isn't it? Because you're sort of, right, I don't know. I just find that sort of, I find it so like insane

that you couldn't go, oh shit, he's been a kid and you wouldn't just, I find anyone who like, yeah, you would, yeah, and not just like, it's not a 13, 14 year old, it's a fucking two year old. Yeah. But anyhow, I digress. Canada's number one prepaid mobile provider chatter mobile visit chatter mobile.com for details. Now, Tom, as I said, yeah, you got we got we got a few emails about how good you were in Liverpool. But the other thing

that I want to share with you, sorry, I'm just looking at trying to set this up while I talk about it, is that you requested a country version of the... Oh wow. And we've had more than one. So I'm gonna play a couple of these to you now, okay? So this is, hold on, this is from Adam Croft,

who said, I've done an American accent, the song didn't sound right with my summer central, hope you like it. Okay, here we go. Oh, I don't know man, I like a summer central for a song. She won't be the joyous feathers of fur Sharp teeth for weep or claw as whatever's preferred The grand all your last regrets to steady and nerd The podcaster body parts get severed and served Bring your weak ship where the wolf and nowlar Ain't just a mistake it's an awful heller Both of them are known to pull a patch of shows

Have the crowd witness in a world of laughter Bolder when the game goes Fuck the censorship and let us see the whole thing Stay dressed to kill and have'm gonna have a sheep's clothing Dark enough to turn the sun to the moon You see nothing, all you hear is a hufflepuff on the OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Just kidding every word in the songs about to grow man dressed as a bird in a dove Oh my god that's so good man that is so good. God mate killed it. smashed it Sam. Yeah that's really good. Hold on there's another one actually it's another couple. Do you need one more? Yes, there was. Okay, this is from Samuel. Sam, I know you want to keep on stopping

confidence. I'll keep it simple. I'm a huge fan. On last week's episode, Tom briefly mentioned it'd be cool if someone could do a country version of the podcast theme tune. As a recently graduated music student, I thought I'd found my calling. Hope you enjoy. Okay, ready? We'll play some more of these, but I don't want wanna play all of them. But, not all of them now, I mean, but we'll keep. But these are really good.

We've had a few. Okay, ready? ["The Red Walls"] The heat is closet up to furs The red wall outside where the steady nerds fart As the body parts get selfish Drinkin' weak shit while the move an' hour Ain't just a mistake that's not for our love Both of them are known to pull a back show

It's half proud but it's in a body like gold Where the gang grows Fuck the censorship, let us be low Stay the rest of your life, we should be close Not enough to turn the sun and moon to see Nothin' on you is half-up Spectacles, red pill in a glass of rum How good is that? amazing. He's got more of a Johnny Cash vibe there. Yeah, yes. Yeah. There's a few of these. We'll try and play them all out at some point. So good, man. Okay, right. Should we do an email before we go? So bad at doing emails, aren't we? This is from the worried wombat. Okay. First thing, congratulations. I want to say

thank you so much for the pod. I started listening when I started uni, it really helped distract me from my overthinking anxiety. Listen to every episode. Saw you live in London last year with my dad. Now I've nearly finished my second year and have a lovely group of friends. I feel like I'm ready for a relationship but I've never had a proper one before. I've got a mixed group of friends and have been on dates but nothing much has ever come of it. I'm worrying that I'll never find someone. I find it frustrating that it seems so easy for other people and I can't seem to manage it. I think sometimes I over think situations too much or maybe I'm too picky.'m not particularly self-confident and I worry there's something wrong with me and it's also be very much appreciated Thank you to the swan

Pierce will you be releasing any new t-shirts and I brought my dad one for his birthday, but was the wrong size Yes, we will be releasing some more t-shirts. So Tom I can you know Fred? I mean, yeah, essentially just go back and re-listen to the earlier part of this podcast with Prince of Thieves. I think it's fair to say I struggle very much showing in that scenario myself. Basically as well, probably around your age, a lot of my friends were going to university. I then felt they were moving on in life. Whereas I stayed and was working in building sites or other two-bit jobs, I was doing other work

and it felt like everyone else around me, a lot of people around me were going out having these massive adventures and living their lives a bit and meeting people from different worlds and I suppose growing more as people. And I sort of always felt like I was sort of being left, you know, you're sort of left behind a little bit. You're sort of left to sort of keep the home fires burning in a sense. And I think that age, I think although like you are at university and you're talking about schooling or whatever, there's a lot going on in your life at the moment and I think things can move very quickly and some people find that person very early and some people don't.

I think there's so much going on for you in your education, thinking about what your next steps are when you leave university, trying to find someone. The truth of life is everyone grows and some people academically grow quicker, some people are a bit slower, some are relationship wise. A lot of people that I grew up with who are constantly dating or going out with people and whatever, it feels like a lot of them necessarily now haven't really got their finger on the button quite so much on, you know, I don't know if this is right, but how special that can be, it always feels like they, you know, I think that, I think you need to know that you go at your own pace

with things. Like this is me talking reflections of 45 year old man now who's you can look back and think you know but I remember being your age and just thinking why can't I find a girlfriend or why can't I you know what's wrong yeah what's what's potentially wrong with me and actually when I look now it's just that that is just the way that life was you know I did a lot of unbeknown sort of self-learning at that point in my life. So I think you will find someone if you want to find someone. They'll be out there for you.

I think that's the truth to it. I wouldn't feel worried about never meeting someone or something being wrong with you. You're growing in different ways that other people aren't and don't ever question that about yourself. And when the right person is there, you will know. And yeah, keep on doing you, keep on enjoying your education and always know that the road is a long one and this road is full of stops and petrol stations and service stations which are other people full of amusement and lust and i don't know what i said last i ultimately regretted it it was horrible for your journey you're not always going to stop at the same stations as everyone else sometimes you drive by a station that you could have stopped at

but it just means at some point you're gonna have to fill up for petrol or get some snacks and that could be the service station you need to go to. Beware the Texaco of lust. I would say to you worried Wombat, you're in your second year of uni, you just don't even need to worry about this. It's just like, you know, I think if you start worrying about it and obsessing on it, you'll start to make compromises that you don't want to make in terms of the people that you're seeing. And it's totally fine to not be in a relationship now. It's

totally okay to not be in a relationship. It's totally okay to never be in a relationship if you don't want to be. You know this whole thing of getting caught up in, you have to be in a relationship, what's wrong with me, can lead you to make bad decisions. I know people that are in relationships that probably shouldn't be. They're not very good, or they're not very healthy for them. I think when you're not in a relationship, you can have this assumption that being in a relationship is the right thing. Being in the right relationship is a great thing. But what you don't want to do is be so desperate to be in any kind of relationship that you sort of lose sight of the fact that that is something that's supposed to benefit you.

So, I would not worry about it as much for now. And just live your life, keep keep doing you and those things will come there is nothing wrong with it. Do you remember like being the age, so I'm just really wanting a girlfriend. I'm not dismissing what you're saying, I totally understand. No, no, no, it's so weird though because it's like what we talked about earlier but yeah it's like when you read that out there's a part of me that like like now as I say we mean you're retrospectively looking back and that's it I I know myself right at that age I I would have yeah I would have done nearly anything to sort of just go oh this is my girlfriend

I know but did you know your girlfriend? Oh no that's that's my mate Ke Kev's girlfriend. He's at university. So I just sort of like, yeah, step in and shop in the cinema. But the thing is, so it's like, what I would say the sad thing about that, or the worst thing about that is, is I'm not even convinced that that does. I'm not talking about worried one bit. Now I'm talking about the two pathetic people delivering this podcast. I think that I would love to say that all of that

was driven by a need of companionship. I would say a lot of it was driven by exactly what you said, being able to say to somebody, I've got a girlfriend. Like a badge of honour. Like you've, like yeah. You know how many times when I look back, how many times, right, at that age how many times at that age, probably older, where people go, I was at your girlfriend, and I go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's just a friend who I'm in love with and have been for quite some time, but doesn't know I exist. Yeah.

That's just a friend. Yeah, we've watched Robin Hood Preach the Deeds like eight times. Yeah. I think dinner time. That really is not working. I think we did a diad. We got really tight with it, actually. So, sometimes when we sort of sat in the park having a, like, a bottle of cider, I would just recreate the film to sort of verbally describe all the scenes and the visuals and stuff like that.

And, you know, a while away many are now doing that and sort of look across to her and she... Well, sometimes she's... Yeah, she really is. She always last when I do my Christian Slater yeah sometimes she's looking at her phone and stuff but I think it's sort of making notes of her favorite bits so yeah it's really strange. The tragic thing is she didn't even have a phone to look at no sometimes she'll just whisper I think she's just listening but she'll be just looking at it to the middle distance yeah it's like we're Kevin Costner and Mary Steenberg. Sometimes I've've been right in the middle of it and I've looked across at her and she's been moved to tears by what I'm doing.

I mean I'll say to her, is it what I'm doing? And she'll go, no, no, it's not your fault. It's not you, it's me. Right, Tomo. It's about that time. I'm worried one bit, good luck to you, keep doing you, you're going to be absolutely fine. Tomo, could you do us the honour to take a... And if we can find relationships and families and happiness, anyone can, brother.

Yeah. Anyhow, I digress. Truth and lies. Pity and shame. What are these things? They're opposites. Truth is they're far away from each other, but there's a thin line that runs between them. A man could sit with four eggs in a basket,

give away those four eggs and he's fed four people, or even two greedy people, but he's got no eggs left himself. So does that make him stupid or generous it's a weird thing when you look at different people and perspective that you have we can judge quite easily and through that judgment we can cast aspersions and sometimes what could be a great friend becomes an enemy or someone that you shun because you think I don't really want them in my life but certainly for me I start thinking we need to dig a little deeper. The first thing people say,

oh, your first interaction with someone is the one that means the most. I always think go to a 10th interaction and then make that judgment. For example, Romesh early meeting that lady, he met her twice. Both times he met two different characters. But what would the third time bring?

Who would she be then? Another character, alas, the real her. Give people a chance in life. Some people are despicable and scumbags, so maybe walk away from them. But don't walk away too quickly from someone who could just be a sweet soul in disguise, nervous, anxious.

Ready to show you their cards, but you ready to see them? ready to show you their cards, but you ready to see them? Wow, really, really nice stuff. Really nice stuff. I could tell you. My favourite thing about that one is when I said are you ready to see them, you let in thinking there might be another line. Yeah, I mean, it was, Yeah, I didn't realize that was the conclusion. I thought you're gonna say so maybe you are maybe

or not or something. Anyway, I have been I wanted to talk about us on the on the podcast mode to talk about on the next one. About this Kendrick Lamar Drake. beef that's going on. But we should just do it. We should do a bonus. Yeah, just about that. Yeah, we should do a bonus. I tell you what, JT, definitely keep it in that we're doing a bonus because that will guarantee that we're doing it.

Um, but there's a tune that came out, there's a producer called Metro, who Drake sort of said to him, won't you just stick to making beats. And so Metro did a beat. Uh, basically it was like a disbeat it's probably my favorite song to come out this whole thing it's called BBL Drizzy. JT could you play us that instrumental please and take us out of the podcast. Guys thank you so much for everything you do we love you very much. Peace out, one love, respect all, please email us at wolfalpod.gmail.com. That's wolfalpod.gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you, mainly because we don't have any

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