Wolf and Owl - S3 Ep 33: Friday Bonus & The AI Robots Are Coming!

Episode Date: June 28, 2024

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How many? A lot. I don't know the number. 15, 20? More than that. Oh wow. I reckon 40. Wow.

Yeah, 40 or 50 probably. Well we can't sponsor 40 football clubs. They don't think we're allowed by the FA. No, that's a good point. I don't think we've got enough money to do that. No. How do you even pick, like? Well, I think that's a discussion we have to have off pod.

Okay, cool, cool. Because if we start getting into the semantics of it now, we're probably gonna get ourselves into a lot of bother. Yeah. But I think we need to make our decisions, you know, make the decisions carefully. Do you know what I mean? In the same way that whenever, however we choose

which small businesses shout out, we sort of consider all of the different options, don't we? By the way, the football sponsored thing is happening, by the way, it's happening. But Tom and I have been texting back and forth about some of the emails we've had in. So we are, we're gonna come up with a decision soon. And thank you for your emails.

And if you do want us to consider you, please do email in. Okay, Hey Wolf and Al from the belligerent bear. And thank you for your emails. And if you do want us to consider you, please do email in. Okay. Hey, Wolf and Al from the belligerent bear. You'll recognize this as soon as I get into it. I hope this email finds you well. I'm the abdominal aardvark AI, and I've been tasked by my master to provide you with a deeply philosophical question

framed through Tom's favorite lens, which often involves sentient fruit, animals, and other peculiar entities. Imagine a world where apples and elephants coexist in harmony. Did you take this in because it's quite surreal? Apples and elephants coexist in harmony. Well, apples talking beings then? Sentient and contemplative beings, it says here.

In this peculiar realm, an ancient prophecy foretells of a cosmic event that would challenge the very essence of their existence. As the apples and elephants grapple with the impending uncertainty, a mysterious banana arrives from a distant galaxy bearing a message that could alter the course of their intertwined destinies forever. This is a lot isn't it? Now here's the... my brain's already started to get a bit funny with this. Now here's an amusing question for you to ponder. How do the apples and elephants reconcile the differences and confront the existential crisis brought forth by the enigmatic bananas?

This sounds a lot like the one you sent last time. All while navigating the complexities of their own identities and desires. I encourage you to explore this question from multiple... I mean... Stay tuned for my next tantalizing thought tickler. Oh, look... I... I'm there. I've watched as a part of me that thinks that the help that we give on this is sort of like a bit of name and like comes from no real sort of. I don't know what to do it.

Like I know. Yeah. I mean, here's here. So just can I just say, by the, this is, this is an AI question. Correct. This guy, but can I say the belligerent bear, like shout out yourself and thank you, but right yourself, like, like get an AI to come up with this question just completely makes it so just can break it's sort of obsolete. It doesn't really matter because it's the AI who's written it. It doesn't really sort of serve any purpose.

If it's you who's written an amate, like a like some sort of anecdotal question and it's sort of from what and you've come up with it, then by all means, I think, well, fuck it, let's just go into it. But I just think it's AI and AI is a prick. So is it. So don't forget, The AI does amazing work. But this isn't what AI should... Yeah. I don a bit. And really, there's part of me that doesn't want to share this with you, because I don't know how it's going to go. I've spoken to two people that know that have done a lot of research into AI. And the thing that both

of them told me, they each tell me different things. But the thing they both told me is the people that are working at the forefront of AI don't really know enough about what's gonna happen if they carry on doing it. This whole idea that they're working safely and you're not gonna get an iRobot situation where they all turn on us. We're not being safeguarded against that at all basically. Yeah Do you not find that terrified yes fucking terrified I mean like Listen, this Apple's and elephants thing is all well and good. But the fact of the matter is nobody knows what could happen It's coming. Is this utterly terrifying?

Like like that. I have no doubt it is gonna happen. What's gonna happen? the computers and fucking everything's gonna take over And we'll have nothing to fight back over good cuz our guns by that point will be fucking Like somehow they'll have like chips in them that are like sort of like it helps by AI Yeah, you got you got to pull your trigger on a robot. Okay, the gun will just go I don't think so yeah girls and it's not like the holding a gun I've been defending myself with some sort of stick I imagine you know some sort of I mean that's all you've got you have to have clubs that we had to go back to Viking kind of shit yeah you have

to yeah that'll be more intelligent than us look at question really intelligent but the guys are written that's my point I wouldn't know go yeah but also there's a set there's certain other details. It goes by fucking computers now. Look in this. Yeah. Fuck. You're 15 years.

He goes, Oh, you're 15 years ago. Tom Davis called AI prick. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't, you didn't like that question. Did you tell? I know you think you're a prick. Well, yeah, you are.

You didn't respect my apples and elephants Question you are coming to the carbon mines The thing is the thing is what we've got to do is what you got remembers it won't talk like that I mean AI is already more advanced. I'll be like hello mate UK drew a few years ago when you got apples and elephants question. He didn't like it did you call that? He called me a prick so What you're looking at? Well, do you know what? I a prick. So what do you like with the pickaxe? Do you know what I think we should have just stopped with fucking like Nokia 3210s. Agreed. Internet should have been used just for specialists and people in doctors and such.

Smartphones have fucked us. Our brains we can't recall any information. We don't know anything. There's nothing that our brains hold because you just go, I'll just look on my phone. There's a part of you- Social locations, you're looking at your phone. You turn up to dinner with someone and they put the phone on the table. Well, I'm like you, I've just stopped looking at it as much.

Yeah, well, we did get an email from somebody that said that they, I'll read this email out, but basically there's like a box that you put in your house that you just put your phones in when you get home, like where you put your keys. I think it's a good idea. Come in, put your phone away, interact with your family.

Yeah, you know what? I thoroughly enjoyed watching England go. I watched it with Grace. And yeah, you know, just enjoyed that vibe. Welcome to the Old Farts podcast where we get outside our houses, look at the sky and start shaking our fists at the clouds. That is terrifying though, isn't it? Full of robots. It's quite terrifying.

Thank you, belligerent bear for sending us into what I would describe as a panic spiral. Okay. This is from the ashamed aardvark. Oh, it's another aardvark. To the wolf, swan and owl. I've never been in such desperate need for some advice. I believe you record the podcast on Sundays. And so I'd be grateful if you managed to see this last minute and read it out.

Well, congratulations. They sent this two hours ago. Oh, wow. I'm in such desperation, I can't explain. Last night, I went to my best friend's, oh wow, this is, this is sent at 6.37. Wow, jeez. We're now at what, 10 past nine.

Last night, I went to my best friend's 40th birthday dinner in Notting Hill. As we were changing venues to move from the bar to the restaurant, a mutual friend of ours offered me a tote of her weed vape, which was notably of Mike Tyson's brand. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these are known for being pretty punchy, right?

Long story short, I've only smoked weed once and taken one single weed gummy. Both times I hated. Lo and behold, last night I was absolutely knocked the fuck out by the two totes taken. Precise to green out and my friends had to put me in a cab to take me to A&E as I wouldn't come around. I was absolutely certain I was going to die.

I've never been so high, and it was a truly terrifying experience. Needless to say, I ruined what could have been an extremely lovely evening. All my friends had made a real effort to dress up, all ready for a night of drinks and laughter. As you can imagine, all of my friends are unbelievably pissed off at me, and rightly so,

and I'm left absolutely beyond humiliated and so ashamed of myself. This seems a bit harsh. How do I go about making amends for this faux pas? I'm 31 years old, I should absolutely know better. For context, I rarely even drink, and so this is absolutely out of the ordinary for me. I suppose that could be my only saving grace.

How can I make amends ASAP and with the utmost sincerity? Of course, an in-person apology is required accompanied by a gesture of 35 white roses to say sorry and bring peace. Any additional advice would be so gratefully received. You're sincerely the ashamed Aardvark. Tom, I think we're going to agree on this. Yeah, but can I just say, number one, you're beating yourself up over this and...

Correct. ...unnecessarily so. You're feeling probably a bit of shame and a bit of embarrassment over what happened very, very recently on the basis it's happened just last night. I really feel like this is going out on Friday, so I feel bad now.

Hopefully by the time you listen to this, this is all been dealt with. Well, what I'm gonna do, Tom, is after we do this, I'm just gonna do a little reply to the email saying it's gonna come out on the Friday, but I'll do a Tom, is after we do this, I'm just going to do a little reply to the email saying, it's going to come out on the Friday, but I'll do a little summary of what we're saying. My thing is, it's number one, if you feel, and yeah, we've all, like, oh, I've been in this situation

a number of times where I felt wretched embarrassment for something I've done at some sort of social event due to sort of alcohol or, yeah, for taking in some sort of social event due to sort of alcohol or, you know, for taking in some sort of narcotics. But I think firstly, it will feel a lot worse to you than it would to them. Number one, if your friends are decent people, and I hope they are, because you seem like a decent sort of person, I think the truth is they're probably quite worried about you. And although, if they've taken you to A&E and they've looked after you in that way, I think that I think the truth is they're probably quite worried. They're probably quite worried about you and although Yes, they've taken you to a you know, and they've looked after you in that way that so it shows to me that they're decent enough people

I think that there might have been some feeling of sort of slight frustration Around the fact that I had a night planned and stuff. I think that actually that your health and you know How you were seem to seem paramount above anything else. And I think that they've made different plans, shows that they're probably a decent group of people. If they're not and they hold some kind of ill will against you, then I think that's banging out of order. People make mistakes.

I think the truth is, in my experience, and I'm not, this is not you, I think the fact that you've taken a toke of that is you in a sort of subliminal way trying to fit in. If it's not something you usually do, you sort of like try it. Someone's offered it to you and you try just to go, oh yeah, I'll do that thing even though you don't usually do it. Because that's how I've been in my past. So that might not be you, but in my past I've tried to fit in and I've tried to think if I do this thing,

maybe, yeah, maybe it'll just, I don't know, yeah, enhance the evening or whether it'll just make other people feel more comfortable because I've sort of joined in what they're doing. And I think when it comes to being a bit out of character, certainly through a lot of my 20s and well into my 30s really, I found that sort of with my social anxiety,

I think I found drinking or doing other things was a way of just clicking with people and if people were doing things I'd find it I wouldn't want to just be that like strong enough to go no no I'm not doing that I don't really do that I usually sort of just get involved and to my detriment sometimes and to my detriment sometimes and to my embarrassment quite a lot of the time. And I think, you know, whether that was shots or whatever. And I think it does take quite a lot not to do that. And sort of stand, you know, and sort of stand your ground. And maybe this will be the thing that you'll go, actually next time I'm offered I won't do it or whatever. And I think, I

think you're unfairly beating yourself up and I think it's quite reasonable behavior because I know for Fat Ramesh does that a lot I do it all the time. It's one of the reasons that I've really cut back on alcohol is because I literally just grew so I couldn't handle for three days just feeling like I'd embarrass myself or let myself down in some way. So Don't feel bad Like I say, this is coming out of like five or six days after this has happened. So By this time, I think you probably dealt with it all And this all just feels like a bit of a sort of like crappy memory

and if it doesn't then Well, yeah be very sad to hear that doesn't, then, well, yeah, it'd be very sad to hear that. But anyway, I think what she's gonna say, same thing, probably a bit more nuanced. But yeah, much love. No, I totally agree with you, Tom. I mean, look, I get, look, the reasons that you did it

are because it was offered to you. You're trying to fit in, you're excited about a night out, and I think you need to be more understanding of why you did what you did. If you went, I'm going to take these two totes so it can absolutely fuck me up and everybody's going to have to take me to hospital. That's one thing. It's an accidental side effect of what happened. And I think your friends should understand that.

As Tom said, it was nice of them to come with you and look after you. But the fact of the matter is you haven't really done anything wrong. You made an error of judgment with the information that you had, you just thought, oh, this should probably be all right. And you thought it was going to enhance the night

and unfortunately it didn't. I just don't think you should be harsh on yourself. But what I would say is like following up, I haven't got a lot to add to what Tom said apart from, please be kind to yourself. But I am now in a position where, to be honest with you, off the back, not off the back of what Tom said, but in keeping what Tom said about drinking too much

and getting on it and having that fear and in the past I have tried those weed vapes and come unstuck. I think that I'm in a position now where I feel like the only time I'm ever going to drink is when I'm with people I really trust. So whether that is like at home with Lisa or whatever or I'm sort of very much feeling like if I'm in a social situation like that, I probably won't drink. I think if I was out of you and we were just chilling together, I'd have a few beers and I'd feel quite...

Yeah, that's what I... But even then, I had a few beers the other day with James and I was coming home and then I'd sort of like, you know, you could get involved in some chat and I felt really conscious that I'd had like three pints and it was just a bit. I just feel like I don't want to be out in public like that. No no no. It's like I just don't like it and you know it's one thing if Lisa and I are at home and we have a few drinks and have a bit of laugh that's my wife. You know

you're in a private, safe situation. I know this sounds, it might sound over the top, but I do genuinely feel like this. Whereas when you're out and about, you bump into someone or you start talking to someone or even go in and get some food when you're drunk, I just find the whole thing horrifying. You know the other thing I would say is your bladder.

Yeah. At 45, like your bladder is like, my bladder is literally like, I'll go for like 30 pisses if I have three pints. I literally, no exactly, I'll literally go, I'll go for a wee before I get on the train. I'll get on the train and the train will sort of like leave and then I'll go, I need another wee. Then I'll think I need another wee, my train journey is 25 minutes, I'll go I need another wee before I get off the train just for the walk home. Then I'll almost, the last bit of the walk, which is 15 minutes, be sprinting

because I need another wee. It's insane. Well, it might be a bigger problem. Have you heard of, I mean, this person's emailed in about weed, but have you heard about zebra striping? What's that? This is being like,

because younger people don't drink as much as people of our generation. Drinking is not as big as it used to be. And it's sort of in keeping with advice that people have always got, which is to alternate drinks, but that's what they do. So for every beer they have, I think it's maybe for every two alcoholic drinks you have,

you have one non-alcoholic drink. So just drink through the night. Yeah, glass, whatever, whatever. And actually what that does is, one, it enables you to stay across how drunk you're getting. Cause when you go for, when you have a pint and then you're, or whatever, however far into the night you are,

when you have two drinks in quick succession, the previous drink hasn't really fully kicked in while you're drinking the next one, right? So that's how you end up getting so hammered without re... You know those nights, which happen most nights, that people go on a drinking session, where they get more drunk than they intended. It's because you're not across it.

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As a master painter carefully brushes Benjamin Morrigan Select down the seam of the wall It's like poetry in motion Benjamin Moore see the love Have you seen a video of Ray Parler and Alan Brazil no These are Ray parlors Instagram Instagram. Ray Parlour loves to drink. I think it's fair to say Ray. That starts with Alan Brazil. I mean, you know, Alan Brazil is 80% alcohol. Yeah, I was about to say Alan Brazil, he is a drink. Yeah. There's a video of them and

they've been drinking all day and they've decided to get a motorhome and drive across Europe. There's a part of me that sort of like just respects the fact that like it's the sort of video if I was to put up thinking it was funny when I was drunk the next morning I'd go oh Romney we need to set a video down because we're both absolutely leathered. There's a part of me that respects the fact they've gone nah fuck it that's just you know that's what alcohol is. It's a funny video but it's yeah they're absolutely the two of them absolutely fucking shat it yeah

well look ashamed aardvark this is Tom and Rom saying to you you don't need to be ashamed. It's an unfortunate thing that happened, but your friends should understand. And yeah, you'll want to apologize, I'm sure you would do, but- But don't overdo the apology, because then people will think-

Exactly, exactly. Can I say something I've learned, the older I've got, is if you overly overdo an apology, like apologize, I think that's the best thing to do in any situation when you're wrong, but if you overly apologize people then start thinking the thing you've done is far worse than it actually is. Yeah, people believe you. Yeah, well like when you start going it's really out of order and like I'm

such a prick and I knew that would have this effect on me. You know, you start overcompensating and then people start going actually, do you know what, you were fucking out of order. It was disgusting what you did. Yeah. You fucking horrible piece of work. So you have got nothing to be ashamed of, all right? I'm sorry that the night worked out like that for you. But if you were thinking of something,

just arrange another night. And just do another night. And steer clear of the weed. Yeah. OK. Mike Tyson's weed is insane, by the way. I didn't. When the R-Vox said it's known as being pretty punchy, I didn't know that. Okay. Mike Tyson's weed is insane by the way.

When the R-Vox said it's known as being pretty punchy I didn't know that. Is that true? Yeah. Is he like, because he does that, doesn't he do a podcast where he's high the whole time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I don't want to get too into this. You're starting to get nervous as if you think Mike Tyson's going to hear this podcast.

No, no, no, no, no, right. I'm going to be quite open Mike Tyson's gonna hear this podcast. No, no, no, no, no, right. Well, I'm gonna be quite open, because that's the way I... I've been literally in the Avaart situation with a mutual friend of ours. We were away filming, and they had some of this stuff. And I did what the Avaart did.

To that point, I wasn't, I didn't have to go and be hospitalized hospitalized but it certainly had an implication on my evening about three days after. It is like pretty mad stuff if you're not you have to be careful yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah uh should we do one more Tommy Tommy? Let's do one more my sweet G. This is from the Audacious orangutan to the amazing Wolf Owl, Swan, Cat and JT of course. They've messaged JT. That's nice.

Yeah, really nice. Been listening, very long time listener. I've been listening to Ramesh since the Hip Hop Saved My Life days. I'm a big fan and JT of course used to edit that podcast as well. The hip hop podcast. So there you go. No, but I'm telling you, um, my question today is regarding my missus, the tenacious tarantula, she has a colleague at work who repeatedly says the phrase

sort of like, but says after every sentence excessively to the point that everyone at work is pretty miffed and they take the piss behind their back. My response is always ignore her and try to blank out, but it's really grinding her gears along with the others she works with. How would you approach the situation? Would you address the colleague in some way

or maybe fight fire with fire and start doing your own annoying phrase? If you know what I mean at the end of everything you say could get quite annoying, well, I do that. And might even promote a bit of self-reflection for the Colleen and Christian. You use that truth be told a lot, don't you? I do, yeah. And... Yeah, the situation, the truth of it is, I say that a lot.

I'm not Frank Brun, if you know what I mean. Yeah. Oh, it's gone on to about the Eminem tune. Regarding the new Eminem tune, I've been listening to Eminem since I was about nine years old. I know every lyric from the Infinite album. And he's going on to talk about how much he loves Houdini, that track that we put at the end of the podcast. Well, thank you so much for your email,

Adaisya Simrongatang. Tom, oh, did you hear that? What was it? Hold on, it's a swan. Oh, did you hear that? What was it? Hold it's a swan Lisa you okay? She just did such a loud sneeze I'm lazy you didn't hear it Back on a podcast second put the air conditioning you've got in your house making a cold Okay, Tom the air conditioning you've got in your house making a cold. Okay Tom can I say on this right, just quickly what I read, I noticed something the other day after

England's first game in this tournament. I've got you go so accustomed to watching footballers getting interviewed and like I did it because I do it a lot when I'm chatting, where I'll say, if you know what I mean, or I'll just go home, like that. Listening to Jude Bellingham getting interviewed is phenomenal. It's insane. He is so, I've never seen, not even to the point of just saying footballers, just to 90% or 95% of the point of just saying footballers, just to 90% of, or 95% of the population of human beings on the planet. Jude Belling, the way he coherently speaks

is unreal. He is so like, he's not just being trained as an amazing footballer. He's just every, he could well be the next Prime Minister when he finishes his career. Let's, this is, okay, let's not get too excited. JB is a legend. He's a legend. Yeah, sure. I personally think in this situation, we used to have a kid that we used to knock around with

called Schwa Neil. Because after everything he said, he used to go, Schwa. What? Yeah, Schwa. So he'd go, all right, all right, Rob, mate. How you way I do brother you all right you're gonna go down there you're gonna go down a weather spree slash what and so we couldn't swine it on and he said one time what you call me swine it on we're like you say swore after everything you say no don't and I was like yeah you do

you say swore after no fucking don't. And I was like, yeah you do, you say swar after it, no I fucking don't. Well he's done it on those two occasions. Well yeah. It was like being a bit unfair. Well yeah, so he was, no I don't, swar. So he then looked into himself and stopped saying swar after it was quite sad actually, because we all quite enjoyed the fact that he said swar

and made it quite, even especially if he was saying something quite serious, like it's like, yeah, like you know my dog Rowley, like he's been quite ill of late schwa you know Joyce who owns a video shop yeah looks like she's leaving because they get like a younger sort of more hit member of staff in sch Shwa. And when he was really happy it was like really nice he'd tell him and go, yeah yeah yeah yeah you know at Chisit and World of Adventures yeah if you go round the back you can get over the fence you haven't got a place, place shwa. Yeah okay I'm getting I get it I get it. So yeah we told him about the

swarthing and he just stopped saying he stopped saying swarming. So I don't know whether if you start calling them by their name and then use the shtick that they're saying all the time, I think that could be one way to do that. I find this slightly complicated. You're saying fight fire with fire. This person, this colleague at work,

is not doing it deliberately. They're not doing it to be annoying. It's just something they've started doing. And, you know, I understand that once you start focusing on that, it becomes all you can hear. But I think the decent thing is to just have a chat with her and say, do you know that you say sort of like all the time? These things can be, I say corrected. They can be changed. Like if you just suddenly become aware of what you're saying,

you can get rid of it as Schwa did, Schwa Neil did. And I think it's just, I think your Mrs. Nees to just take this person aside and go, look, people have started to talk about the fact that you keep saying sort of like all the time and let her take action. She's not, I just don't think she's doing anything wrong. It might be annoying or it might be something that you obsess over, but she's not actually, it's not a bulls-eye. It's not a wrong thing that she's... I say, do you know what I mean, all the time. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Right. And you say truth be told a lot, right? Yeah. That is a lot of of the time, I say what, do you know what I mean? Because I'm thinking about the next thing I'm gonna say or I'm a little bit anxious. There is a word for what it is. There is a word for what it is. Yeah, and I'm not gonna know if you don't, but.

But a lot of the reason we say those things is anxiously, I'm worried that you don't know what I mean. Or the way that I'm conveying the thing that I'm saying. So when you're going sort of like, it's usually a sort of feeling of a bit of social anxiety. It's usually a thing that you're slightly worried about, that you're worried if the comparison or the thing that you're saying,

you're not 100% other people who are gonna agree with what you're saying. So if you're gonna turn around and go oh those oh this pizza is delicious or like you don't want to yeah you're not necessarily you don't want to make a sweeping statement and you haven't got maybe enough courage in your own conviction so you sort of back it with something that isn't going to make you 100% definitive. Yeah exactly there. There we go. We've done it together. High five. Yeah, so I would say to the trenches, to tenacious tarantula, just have a word,

just have a word, I think. And a kind word. Make the word kind for the spirit. Yeah. Because when we said that's a swan eel, it wasn't done with any animosity. No. And you know what? After that he could never really be swan eel or something inside him. He just didn't, he wasn't the same. He just decided, you know what, I'm ready, truth be told, I'm just going to be Neil. Yeah.

I did that to him. And we already had a Neil in the group, so. Yeah. Yeah. So actually the group fell apart after that. So maybe don't do anything. And I agree with everything you said, Adais Shahzad, about Eminem. I'm a big fan. Okay. It's about that time. Lots of love. Thank you for listening to the bonus. We're going to keep trying to do them. And also we've got some face to faces booked in, haven't we, Tom?

Yes, we are. Which we're very excited about. Very, very excited. I'm very excited about the football club. Keep in touch. Yeah. Well, yeah, if anybody else has got any that they want to submit, then please do. And we will announce a decision forthwith. But we are definitely doing it.

Yeah. All right, thanks, guys. Take care. Bye-bye. Alright, thanks guys, take care, bye bye! If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all, please email us at wolfalpod.gmail.com. That's wolfalpod.gmail.com. Thank you.