Wolf and Owl - S3 Ep 63: Amazing Sandwiches & A Ribbing from Rod

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

We’re talking… Tom’s favourite sandwich shop ever, toastie revelations, celebrity scandals, a cricket match encounter, on-screen talent, a banter-filled charity event with Rod Stewart, the Wolf & Owl football derby and getting long words wrong in important meetings. Then we answer some of your email questions, this time about sandwich recommendations, celebrity free passes and some new music from one of our listeners - the metal mongoose. Plus, there’s some rethinking on Rom’s social media plans and an update on Tom’s big soup ideas. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Mighty Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yo, what you want? Beak or jaws? Feathers or fur? Sharp teeth or feet with claws? Whatever's preferred They'll grant you all ass requests to steady your nerves Then podcast a body parts, get severed and served Bring your weak shit, wear the wolf and owler That ain't just a mistake, that's an awful howler Both of them are known to pull up at your shows Have the crowd witnessing the murder like they're rolling with a gang of crows Fuck their censorship, let them see the whole thing They stay dressed to kill, never sheep's clothing Dark enough to turn the sun to the moon, you'll see nothing All you hear's a huff and puff and a...

Expect killings, red spilling and flesh ripping Impressive innit, the death bringing its head spinning Just kidding, every word in this song's about two grown men Dressed up as a bird and a dog Hello hello and welcome to the wolf and owl welcome to the wolf and owl Welcome to the wolf and owl welcome to the wolf and owl. You banged out that merch again boy. Oh, yeah That's good. You got the old penguin on by penguin apham almost sold out almost sold out. Thank you so much How much did you like my video that I did? You did two videos in there. Did you do the video?

It's really sweet of you really sweet of you. Yeah, I mean, I hope they pushed over Yeah, I mean we've had emails in nobody said that they bought the hoodie off the back of your thing But that sandwich shop has done great business off the back of you promoting it. So well done on that sandwich shop has done great business off the back of you promoting it so well done on that. Mate that sandwich shop does not leave me, that sandwich shop's been there since 1900, three generations of good people have like you know gone through that place. Yeah it's an incredible incredible incredible place. Yeah okay. But next door there's a shop I don't know if I can talk about this actually but next door there's a shop and um it's got the most giddy salesperson, because there's a queue outside the sandwich shop, right? There's a guy who comes out to try and sell his wares

to people in the queue. He'll come out with socks and hats and jackets and stuff, trying to sell them to people in the queue. I kind of rate the fact that he's so full on, but is sort of. No one's there to buy a fleece. People are there to buy a ham and pickle cob. It's quite it's quite a lot. Do you mean? Yeah, no, I understand what you're saying. It's a small business and you want to shit on them just for trying to sell some of this stuff to a small, it's quite a big

guy, he's got a brand, it's got a brand. It's got a brand, alright yeah well we've got a brand. Yeah and let me tell you I'd love the opportunity to sell to some people in a sandwich queue. Based on how the merch sells again. Mate if you turn around to me now and say can you walk around London with a wolf in our sandwich board I'd do it. Yeah I know you would but what I'm saying is is that then we should respect that guy for showing a bit of entrepreneurial spirit. No, no, no, but if I'm going to take you to the sandwich shop, it's one of my dreams

to take you and I have told the guy who runs it the one that I'll bring you because he's quite a big fan of yours. Yeah. I imagine I'll get there before I get to your house. Yeah. I got a free mug of soup because I knew you the other day. You got a free mug of soup because you knew me? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I dropped your name hard. I said, I was chatting to him about this and then someone in there had listened to the podcast that was in there. So I chatted to the person. Yeah. And the guy said, oh, Thomas mentioned your shop on the podcast. And the bloke working there said, oh, do you have a podcast?

I was, yeah, yep. I do it with Ramesh and he said, oh, I love Ramesh. He's incredible. I said, well, maybe if your soups were 100% vegan you you'd see him sort of snoop in and grab himself a little soup soup and he went try this Well great stuff Myself a soup. The only thing that's not believable is that that guy had to say do you do a podcast? I don't believe that you've been in a conversation with anyone for more than a minute without them sort of you know when you're in a shop or ever

without you mentioning that you do a podcast I find that very hard to believe Ramesh Ramesh Ramesh our podcast still isn't like we still need to push it as hard as we can yeah but I mean this guy is a fan of yours more of a fan but I still think to this point by the way that the guy doesn't quite know who I am I don't think he has any I don't, I think he thinks I'm a guy. Can I say, by the way, uh, I've been in there with two other people that you know, who have both said, this is the giddiest I've ever seen you. Like calm down.

They've both separately told me to relax. Because we've had emails from people saying they've gone in there, uh, off your recommendation and you've been in there when they've arrived. Yeah, I go in there every day Literally every day for lunch. I'm obsessed. What do you get when you go? I've had every kind of it's so mate I can't by the way, have you seen the episode of Seinfeld the super Nazi episode? Yes, like when you go in there the the it's he like that. I see like the soup? No, no, no, no, no. He's so sweet. Oh, right. He's like, yeah, he'd be like the soup saint. But he... it's still very like when you get in there,

there's so much to choose from. You get quite sort of like, oh my God, what am I going to have today? I only just, mate, I only just found out he's doing toasties. I actually said... Yeah, yeah. I went in the other day. I mean, you paused like that was a mic drop moment. Listen, the idea that you've gone in somewhere and not noticed something for a long time isn't as big a deal as you think it is.

I went in there the other day, Ron. He's got a toastie. I imagine your reaction to finding out there were toasties it must have been absolutely disgusting oh we're gonna have to we have to clean up this sandwich maker's fucking chisel over it no i was like excuse me is that a toasty oven and he went yeah yeah yeah and he said that they've had it for years and it's really old school in its in its way um i said that's amazing man that's fucking incredible and i said i didn't even know you did toasties and he was like that's amazing, man. That's fucking incredible. And I said, I didn't even know you did toasties. And he was like, that's how my voice inclination went. Still like blew my mind. So yeah, but I'd already ordered my sandwich for that day.

I said, guess what I'm having tomorrow? And he said, they're toasties. I mean, in your defense, what I would say is it's so unlikely that a place that specializes in sandwiches would also do toasted ones I get Toasties he doesn't it's not like I don't think I don't think Before you go snippy you don't know about sandwich culture, right?

You go to subway first thing subway say you you pick out your you fill in you pick out your bread They go do you want this do you want this put in the oven? Do you want this hot? Right? Do what is toasted? Fuck, you know toasted. Yeah, right and you're like, yeah, of course. That's amazing. Thank you date this place It's almost like something you only get to know once you become a regular They don't so do you want this toast? He doesn't mention it's like a secret it's almost It's not some secret. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah some secret off menu item you go in there and you go. Yeah, I'll have a I'll have a corned beef and cheese, please. Could be even she's toasted. I don't fucking know what you lot eat. I mean, I

Don't know what you meet. I just tried to combine meat and dairy. It would corned beef and cheese not work You would actually be quite nice. I'm doing for she's yes. Okay. All right. I'm actually being a Rames dairy. Would corned beef and cheese not work? It would actually be quite nice. I'm doing it for cheese, yes. OK, all right. I'm actually being a Ramesh. Yeah, OK. Chicken and cheese? Chicken and chicken. Do you know what's amazing?

Chicken and salad cream. I had that the other day. With salad. From this sandwich place? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd say he has every sauce, every meat, every vegetable, every cheese, all at his disposal. He takes so much pride in everything he makes. This guy's incredible.

Does he do make your own? Yeah, no, you pick your own stuff. You can go in. If I went, it would blow your head off. You'd literally, the serendipity that would fucking elasticate around your brain would be insane. The serendipity that would elasticate around my brain. Tom, we've talked about the hoodie, we've talked about the sandwich place and we talked about

the hoodie thing and you went, oh yeah, I see you're wearing the merch. We talked about the sandwich place. You've become aroused. Your face has changed colour, blood has rushed to your cheeks. I mean, the difference in enthusiasm is remarkable. Yeah I feel very very good. So you know well done. Yeah. Anyway listen, my big question to you, has ever been in touch with Greg Wallace? Well about the sandwiches. Or do you think that me and him are in some sort of ball club that we... do you know like of all him are in some sort of ball club that we...

Do you know of all the people that have been released that is an absolute s*** within our industry? He's the person I'm least surprised about. By the way, I will say this. I actually played a version of Greg Wallace in... For Harry Hill. In life. That's some of my best character work day to day. No, I did a character called Egg Wallace for Harry Hill,

where I was in a big egg costume doing raps. Right. Which is a lot of fun. What did you do? Offend a series of middle class women? That's what that's what that's what is. That's what his latest defense is. Do you know? Do you know? He's just done.

Well, he's come out with what? Like, Do you know what he's come out with? Like apologize just come out of like a Not you know, not an apology far from it. Is he denying everything then sort of he's not out and out denied it What he said is I'm just trying to look it up now. He said That he's worked with thousands and thousands of people in his years as a MasterChef host and 13 people I'm paraphrasing here 13 people have come out and made complaints and they all happened to be middle-class women that's kind of what

the defenses of these I mean have you ever met him have you met him yeah I have met him yeah I was I did you get on with him? I didn't really chat to him that much. I was at a cricket match and he was there. Oh my God, who are you? What? We're looking around at cricket with Greg Wallace. I'm going to have a cricket with like,

even Greg Wallace cracking jokes in the corner. This is a, can I just say, God forbid you ever become a journalist, because your ability to fucking twist what's been said to you, it's actually almost a talent. What I said was, I was at the cricket, he was also there. I didn't say I went to the cricket with Greg Wallace. I certainly didn't say I was lurking around the cricket.

I went to watch England-Shiolanka and Greg Wallace happened to be watching the game as well. Did you sit with him for any time? Yeah I did. You did a thing where I could imagine you walking out, he's sitting there, you walk up, you put your sort of like rest your feet on like a footstool sort of thing you take a cut of sip from a cold bottle of suds. It wasn't a footstool, in my defense it wasn't a footstool, it was a member of staff. You take a cut of sip from a cold bottle of suds and then you're like. But anyway, go on. You'd say you cut the sits from a cold butt with a suds and then you're like, yo, G-Dog, how you doing man?

You good? No, it didn't go down like that. No, no, it didn't go down like that. So did he come to you or did you go to him? How did it work? I was there as part of this like green room experience. Do you know the green room? By the Shatter Green Room,

incredible place to go and watch sport. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so anyway, I went- Nice people, good people. Yeah, it would have been nice if you'd have like waited to find out That's what I was doing before you went into fit like as a fucking sex offender but anyway, so I was there at the Green Room experience with friend of the show friction and He's a massive cricket fan. So we went to the went to the game and um, and We like you'll see it your allocated seating. so i was on the same table as greg wallace

well you're on the same table as him yeah so you did go yeah well i didn't go with him i turned up and i they said your table's over there and at that table was was greg wallace i hadn't requested to sit i couldn't imagine going hello wrong i was hoping this would happen mate i saw your name on the against this you know i was i'm just delighted to be sat with someone who's got the same attitude towards behaviour in the industry. Great to have you next to me. Was he quite gregarious, was he quite drunk? He wasn't drunk, no. We sort of said hello, had a bit of a chat but that was it really. I wouldn't say that we didn't really hang out together

because I was with Ed, with Friction. So I was kind of knocking him out of him. But yeah, I think that might have been, is that the only time I've met him? I think it's probably the only time I've met him. And he was like, yeah, fine. I wouldn't say as a mate of his. The one thing that sticks out in my memory

is somebody asking him on Twitter to help out with their charity and then him correcting their spelling of Greg. That's kind of the one that everyone sort of highlights. But look, you know, I was slightly worried about bringing it up because I thought you might be reluctant to talk about it. As a friend of his? No, not a friend of his. But you know, as well well I know you like I know that you'd never be a friend of his because of your attitude towards vegetables but I just I just thought that you might be... I thought you might be I thought you might be might be nervous nervous about bringing it up. No, but my thing with it more than, like, yeah, it just shocked me. I just always felt like he's just someone

who just always felt like he's not a particularly nice fella. Even the way he sort of conducted himself after this doesn't feel particularly, you know. I mean, yeah, I mean, look, he's not been, he's not been, he's not, as yet, as of the recording of this podcast. He's not yet shown remorse I think that is a fair thing to say But it's an it's an ongoing thing and obviously we can't speak with any level of authority on it

What I would say if I can hypothesize for a moment if you'd allow me to hypothesize is that If we are in a situation where somebody has been allowed to operate after these things have come to light, I think there is something wrong with the system, isn't there? Do you know what I mean? What I mean is it's like, you know, it's very difficult. If you're working, you know, I get very nervous about, I'm not saying that I've behaved like Greg Wallace, but I do get very nervous about the fact that when you are an on-screen talent, or whatever they want to call it, I know that the BBC are moving away from the thing, talent, and also let's talk, I mean, just to clue people in, if you are on screen, you are referred to as the talent by the production or whatever, they go, the talent's coming on now, you know, I mean, obviously they will also call you by your name, but just generally it'd be like DOP the talent, you know da da da da da and that is That is probably wrong, isn't it? Because often we're the least skilled on the production

Do you mean so the idea that we're the talent feels quite mad So but anyway the talent on screen or whatever to make a complaint about that person is a very difficult I think it's a very difficult thing to do because what, one, you don't know, you don't know where that's going to go, how seriously that's going to be taken because that person is integral to the show, right? Secondly, you know that if that person's got profile, it's probably going to become a story, right? And you might not want to be, you might not want to be suddenly part of this kind of media fanfare and three you inevitably you get people saying that you're making it up because that's how people are do you mean so it's just it's just a horrible horrible horrible situation you know I mean and yeah I don't know who knows what's gonna happen what's gonna come to pass in the next few days, but

Can I just? Sorry to interrupt sorry to interrupt you Tom I'm slightly nervous about what you're gonna say and I'm gonna tell you exactly why As I was as I was talking there a look spread across your face and I will describe that look I've seen this look many times over the last few years a look look of mischief. As if you have seen a bus blow up. No, no, no, no, can I just say what? Firstly, just to clarify, I've worked on a lot of jobs with you, and I'd say your behavior is always amazing.

The way you are with everyone is something that I think is- Well, you would say that as a friend, wouldn't you? No, no, education to us all. You're pretty, no, no. But obviously someone else who's got involved in all of this, in a quite big way is Rod Stewart. I can't remember if I told this story before. I love Rod, but one of the most embarrassing moments of my career thus far. There was a bit, I can't remember what it was, a charity thing that was happening over Zoom. During Zoom they were doing the thing where they get, I think it was, you know the day they do in the city where they have you turn, you go

along and you get a trader's thing. So they, because obviously, you know, it was during lockdown they could do it, so they did it on Zoom. you get a trade of things. Because obviously, it was during lockdown, they could do it, so they did it on Zoom. Yeah, what it is is like, you go and do some stock trades, and whatever money you raise in those trades goes to the charity of your choice. And they get loads of celebs to come down and do it, don't they?

That's basically the setup, right? It's just an incredible day. You meet some amazing people, amazing charities. Anyway, they had to do it on Zoom, this one, yeah. And I was filming at the time, it was coming out the first thing, and we were filming The Curse. So basically, I've done stuff for this charity quite a lot. They said, you know, are you able to just jump on this Zoom? And they're doing it in different groups. So you'll be with two or three other

people and you're talking about your charity to the other wider, you know, anyone who's watching type thing. So it's cool. But obviously I'm dressed as Mick from the curse, which is quite a sort of full on look. Were you doing the voice? No, no, no. It was my voice. I should have done the voice. That would have been actually a bit more normal. Anyway, I jump on and yeah, there's a couple of people on there, sort of I know a little bit, whatever, and we're sort of chatting.

And then Penny, well Stuart's wife comes on, and you know, is like, you know, hello everyone, and she's very, very lovely, very sweet, sort of, yeah. And I'm sort of, you know, you probably guess, I'm sort of having a bit of a chat and a bit of a laugh with people and sort of, you probably guessed, I'm sort of having a bit of a chat and a bit of a laugh with people and sort of, yeah. Dominating the Zoom. Yeah.

And then Rod comes on as I'm talking with my Mick makeup on and I'm sort of chatting and Rod obviously doesn't know that everyone can hear him and just goes, oh my God god who the fuck is that? and basically Benny's like oh yeah I don't know who he is I think he's an actor Rod's going what's, why does he look like that? what's happened to him?

he just couldn't get his head around it and then obviously everyone else starts laughing I'm sort sort of laughing and I try to chat to Rod. And his face is just like, just can't comprehend what's going on with this look. Did you explain to him what was going on? Well, also you've got to remember I was in my three ways. So what it looked like was I was essentially doing the zoom from a caravan. During lockdown. I tried to explain but then the Zoom came on and Rod Stick became that he didn't know who I was and got a lot of laughs and so I played along with that. As if that initial humiliation wasn't enough that went on to

become a runner throughout the whole thing. That's nice Well done for doing the charity though mate. That was, do you know what? No good deed goes unpunished does it? That's lovely. Well it's quite fun Ron, if I'm honest with you is Yeah, I enjoy now and again having a little, you know, getting a kick in and Made a nice sweet change to have it from from Rod Stewart But yeah, I mean I could see when Rod went in on Greg that's something he's been yes what did he call him right can't be hard to find so so Greg Wallace

gets fired from MasterChef good riddance Wallace humiliated my wife when she was on the show but yeah that bit cut out didn't you you're a tubby bald-headed ill-mannered bully karma got you sir Rod Stewart incredible. Can I say by the way the bald like also I'm not defending Greg here number one Greg firstly is is fucking ripped I mean whatever he's done is yeah lost a lot of weight but you know the ball thing is like, someone told me the other day about this. No, no, no, no, I don't get on board as fucking is there. But it you know, it's become a thing where now someone's been sued for it as being called board is that sexual harassment in the

workplace. Well, I, I personally always think that if let me just have a look at this again. So it is he says tubby baldheaded right the only thing that I think is I think as you said he's rips right but even if he wasn't tubby bald head tubby and bald headed if we've been you know as funny as what Roger Stewart put up there and obviously he's you've got to got to give him a bit of license here because his wife has been humiliated, if we take his words as gospel. So, you know, obviously you get passionate about that, you know, if your other heart, if someone you love is disrespected, then it's no holds barred. But

going for someone's appearance is not the best, is it? Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I mean, as someone who's felt the wrath of Rod's humor when it comes to a descriptive version of what you said about someone's appearance, he, yeah, I mean, I'd say he's pretty base in his, in his vibes and his jibes, he's quite, yeah. I mean, when we started talking about- He's not delicate as he kicks. No, no. As he tickles. No,, when we started talking about- He's not delicate as he kicks. No, no.

As he tickles. No, when we first started talking about Greg Wallace here, I didn't expect it would pivot onto a two-footed assault on Rod Stewart, but there you go. No, no, no, no, I'm gonna be very honest. Rod Stewart was very funny when he was doing it, and by any means, it was a very awkward thing to be on a Zoom talking about charity,

and Rod Stewart made that a lot funnier and my I Very much played along with the role. He was it wasn't like I think if I turn around a guy This isn't very cool. He's he just I was very much having a lot As I do because yeah, we quite a lot of my life. I've been bullied and I've made a career out of People slamming down on me and being very much a part of the joke Um and laughing like, you know laughing at me laughing laughing with me wrong. I don't care baby. They're laughing. Uh I would accept everything you just said if you weren't a vicious little fuck on this podcast. All right, because I

if you weren't a vicious little fuck on this podcast. All right, because I... You... You... You like to make out like you're this toothless little cub that's just sort of on it going, oh, I'm just trying to be like, I just want to chat to people and that and I'm a really nice guy and all.

Don't be horrible, brumba. But actually the truth of it is, I've had more character assassinations on this podcast Then I have in my entire rest of my life so Do you know me? Yeah? But can I just say if I got if we've run and hung out a bit more I'd have probably bit back at a bit more of a laugh back the rods very high status

Yeah, a lot more high states in you. Yeah, if you ever got any allegations against you, I'd come out with an Instagram post going, oh, I see, Tom, that you've been sacked from Wonka 2. You used to humiliate me regularly on the podcast, didn't you? But then you used to make out that you were a nice guy. You were a tubby, bald, ill-mannered bully. Fat baldhead.

You fat baldheaded. Karma got ya. Sir Ron Ranganathan. I'll just put Sir just to show that I was doing a tribute to the original post. Anyway, let's talk about football quickly. You and I were having regular contacts. Yeah. The Wolf and our Derby last night. Wolf and our Derby last night, West Ham Arsenal. Yeah. It's hell of a game, wasn't it? Hell of a first half, second half was absolute junk. Yeah, second half was shit. Can I ask a question? Yeah.

Whenever you're like, it doesn't matter how good mates you are with somebody, if your team is playing their team, right, and their team is winning, everything they do then becomes annoying, right? Like whatever sex they say and whatever communications you have, you're dealing with the pain of your team mates. So my question to you is this, much as we're in love, did I annoy you last night? No, can I just say, so yeah, but you've also got to put this into your head, right? Right, as a West Ham fan, if I got annoyed every time we got beaten by someone, I'd have

no friends left. Like, it's, and also if I'm going to be quite honest, we're in a situation at West Ham at the moment where I think we've taken a massive slide in the last six to eight months. I think we're not in a particularly good place. I don't think the right man is in charge. I know this will annoy people, it's not a football podcast. But talking about it is a sort of like, so I, number one, I thought the first half hour, I thought absolutely incredible. I thought, yeah. And then I thought, I actually showed a bit of fighting spirit. I thought Basaki looked hour I saw absolutely incredible. I thought yeah, and then I thought I watched you showed a bit of fighting spirit I thought the soccer look good. I mean

That free kick. Yeah was unbelievable I mean, but it sort of says anything, you know that we've spent quite a lot of money on a sort of New forward line and both of our fallback scored We don't look we look like we've taken and the whole idea was to get David Moyes who I was quite like David Moyes out and Like we've taken, and the whole idea was to get David Moyes, who I always quite liked David Moyes, out and then to bring in this guy who's gonna give us this attacking football. And we just, we looked so far off it is, yeah.

But, yes, I know if I'm honest with you, as a football fan, my obsession at the moment is still FPL, it's the fantasy league. I still- Yeah, I saw the right off that. Well, I was catching soccer, so it was actually was actually as much it was a hard thing to watch watching second go to work I was like well at least I'm getting something from this but but also I don't I've got to a place in my life I don't take football quite

seriously as I did yeah that's not my question my question is did I did I know I knew if I'm honest with you, I was expecting that that final 10 minutes of the first half where we looked pretty decent and actually coming out for the second half, I was like, oh you know what, I was excited. If we go back through the text, I said, well I think we're going to get pumped by you lot today because I don't think we're, I just don't think we've got any of my questions. And in my defense, I text you a lot more when you'd scored a couple of goals. Yeah, you did. To sort of say, this looks like it.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not that kind of guy. No, no. I do have a couple of friends who are Liverpool fans and I've got to say, they won't mind me saying this, they are so fucking annoying. Yeah, but also. That they're the most annoying football fans I know.

But you guys are all used to it. I was at a third birthday party yesterday. Oh, well done. It was graceful, yeah? No, no, no, no, I just popped along because I had no social interaction for a while. And I was chatting to a couple of dads there. One was a Chelsea fan.

That was a kids birthday party. Yeah, kids birthday party was good actually. Weird one. Have you seen King Gary? Yeah. Have you seen Paddington 2? Yeah. So the geezer from that, he turned up with full fucking clown face on, just asked if we wanted to, the kids having a bit of entertaining, off the back of nothing. Yeah. He said all he wanted in return was a bit of cake and a couple of beers. Just a chat to

someone, just a friend. Yeah. And one was a bit of cake and a couple of beers. It was fun. And just to chat to someone, just a friend. And one was a Chelsea fan, one was an Arsenal fan. And the way that they talk about football is so much different. Because you guys are used to winning stuff. And if you haven't won stuff for a couple of years, you start to feel quite low. And I think there's probably more banter on your side. If we get a win against Arsenal, and when we have beaten you,

or I will fucking dance around and be very fucking annoying because it's such a fucking unlikely event. Yeah, I actually do think people that support teams at that level can be a bit spoiled sometimes in their attitude. It's almost impossible to win the Premier League, right? Almost impossible. So when people get really fucking like what the fuck is going on? You say okay well what's going on is everybody else is trying to do the same thing. Golfers or anything, if you have any success enjoy it and realize that that's the fucking an onomity. It's like fucking not, it's not saying that happens all the time. It's such an onomity, it's proper onomity.

What? I was in a meeting the other day and I tried to use a big word and it was with my opening gambit of sort of chatting to some people and I got the word wrong and I can't remember what the word was, I've sort of like taken it away from it, but it was a word out of my means and as it was coming out of my mouth I thought, you know, this is a fucking bad move right now and it completely, it's all like, you know, hit me as I became almost a mute for the next sort of 25 to 30 minutes. I just was so worried about opening my mouth and getting any word wrong. It became, yeah. Do you mind if I step in in your defense in this situation because actually you misusing that word in that scenario whatever it was I think is actually quite sweet

because I know if you examine the thought process behind that it is this right you've gone into a meeting you felt slightly intimidated because those meetings are like you know that it's a scary proposition for people, for most people, right? There's very few people that feel comfortable in those contexts. Right. And then what you've done is you've gone, I'm going to try and, I'm going to try and engage and you've got nervous and you've wanted to sound sort of smart or whatever.

Yeah. And so you've reached, you've reached outside of stump for a word that you're not normally comfortable using and you've got found out. But actually your intentions were good. You were just, you're just nervous. You're like, you know, you're trying to fit in with. Yeah.

Can I say that you're an incredibly decent guy as much as we just, and you know in the witchy industry in which we work. So you see that as one way and a lot of people that we surround ourselves with would see that as the same, because they're nice people. That room didn't see it like that. That room was full of very middle-class,

very well-educated people, and they were dealing with a guy who was semi-illiterate, who didn't finish school, who, yeah. So when I used it, many ways you but you being in that industry in many ways is an anomaly isn't it it's like a massive anomaly. But they laughed and not in a way that you and me jest and laugh it was very much oh oh this is school again not even a Rod Stewart like friendly little tickle banter it felt like oh here we go

Let's put the big idiot in his place And yeah every time I had genuine as I open my mouth a couple more times during that meeting people were like oh Just I was like oh yeah, okay. This is a fun place to be I don't like that Tom. Okay, let's, do you fancy doing some emails? I enjoy the emails, I feel like we've slipped off a bit with the emails. Yeah, we have slipped off a bit. So let's just write them up. Okay, here we go. This is an email from, I'm slightly loathe to read this email out, bearing in mind that

we've talked about this quite a bit. But this email is from, there's no animal name, just as please use my first name, Isabelle. Isabelle says, hi, I had to write in, I've been listening for a few years, recommendation from my sister who used to work at Coughlands by the way. Oh big old Coughlands. Oh wow, by the way, congratulations, head of the board, you're on the Wolf of Wall Street. You're now on the board at Coughlands. Well, there's no board, I don't think, but. Yeah, the news article that you shared said

you were on the board. First non-family member to be on the board. First non-family member to join Coughlands, very proud. Yeah, I'm a part host of Coughlands Bakery. A beautiful bakery, excebrily baked goods, soups, sandwiches, an incredible place. I'd say up there with my favorite sandwich shop. I'd probably go there a lot more, I just don't live near one.

Okay, I had to write, anyways, 28th of November, I decided to head into Paul Roth and Son for the first time for my lunch. Wow. After Tom's recommendation. Went into the office especially, and guess who I see at the counter? Wow. I was

very tempted to say hello but I thought I'd let you have a nice piece I'm joking I'm joking. Tom Hiddleston has been there. Okay I went for corn beef and Branston pickle it was delicious. Wow. What would you recommend Tom? Thank you Isabel for your email. Hey Isabel, their Christmas sandwich is barnstorming it's absolutely incredible I've had twice this week. Turkey, stuffing, cranberry sauce, lashings of salty butter absolutely a beautiful piece of work. I said a Christmas sandwich, you've got your classics there, you got your coronation chicken. Right can I just say something? So I get in there quite a bit now and I'm sort of,

you know, like a character, like normal or Cliff from Cheers, do you know what I mean? I'm not working there but I feel like I'm sort of becoming a part of the banner. And so I have a thing now where I try and guess the sandwiches that people in front of me in the queue are going to have. And the other day a guy came in, very nice. What? He's probably about 29, 30. Looked like a bit of a go getter. But you know, he's got, he had to dress well.

And as I sort of saw him, I was like, this guy's going to order Coronation Chicken. I'm playing the game on my own because I was on my own. Not everyone wants to go there every day. Who works in the office? I'm sort of now. No, sure. And I literally was behind him in the queue, the anxiety of me, like thinking, it was he, and he gets in front of the queue, turns around and goes, oh, can I get coronation chicken, please, in a BAP,

brown BAP, and I literally touched him on the shoulder and I said, I knew you were gonna fit Coronation Chicken. And he said so. Well, he looked at me and he went, oh, okay, like that. And I was like, I just, yeah, I had a bet with myself and I just knew you were Coronation Chicken kind of guy. I sort of gave him a little wink

and then I stood next to him in the queue and caught a code to the counter next to him. You wouldn't understand because you haven't been there, but yeah, sort of behind him then I'm to his side. And I said, would you like that to guess why? Yeah, sounds like a very exclusive club. I feel very, I'm feeling nothing but envy that I don't know how the queuing system works

at Paul Rotham's son. But anyway, go on. And I said, do you know what I'm gonna have anyway? I haven't got any idea. And I was like, oh, okay. Either do I yet, but I think on my feet, I'm a bit of a rat. I like to look at the feelings before I pick. Yeah.

Do you think, what do you think the chances are that Paul Roth and Son are gonna ask you to stop visiting? Do you think there's a possibility that you mentioned it on the podcast? The pros of that are outweighed by you harassing customers. Because what I would say to you is, have the bit of yourself. I've got no issue with that. You're playing a little game or whatever because you're having to go to the sandwich shop on your own because everybody at your office is fucking sick

and you're banging on about it. So you've gone to the sandwich place. You've decided to have a little bit of this place. I will say by the way, it's not just the people, Catherine's asked me to stop talking about it as well. Okay. When you're talking about football, right?

I'd say that I argue I'm arguably a lot more passionate about the sandwich shop than I am about the foot I Think maybe just keep that to yourself the coronation chicken guess and just you know, you can do a little fist pump to yourself I don't think that guy needs to know that place 70 to 100 variables of the sandwich you could have for me to have guessed It was coronation chicken. Yeah Tom Tom he has to trust you to know that that was the case

It's like worries me if he thought I was making out just to make conversation. Yeah, that's what I'm saying It's like a magician going to you pick out a card. What card is it? Yeah, I did it was that's what I was gonna say I was gonna say I was like, say A-F-R-S. So there you go. Have I got like a telepathy? Am I telepathic when it comes to sandwich orders? I'd love to take you there, scribble down on the, that's what I should do.

Fuck! I should scribble down on a piece of paper, like what I think they're gonna have, and then go, ahem, like and show them. That'd be a better way of doing it. Yeah, I don't think you should do any of that. I'm saying this to you as a friend.

Just, can I, my firm advice to you, leave people alone when they're in that situation. This is the trouble with modern humanity though, Rob. This is the trouble, is that no one reaches out, no one combines, no one has a, you're together and you feel like. You're not reaching out though. What you're doing is you're tapping on the shoulder somebody on the shoulder and you're going can I show off do I have

permission to show off sports and I went I knew you were gonna pick those trainers you go fucking hell how do you do it okay no I wouldn't say that it? Okay, no, I wouldn't say that. First of all, secondly, you and I wouldn't go to JD Sports together. Third of all, right, it's not impressive to go, I knew you were going to get that thing. Do you understand? If you want to connect with somebody, go to them. Can I recommend the corned beef and cheese?

It's a great combination. You're obsessed with corned beef and cheese by the way. You might not think it works but it really does and then they get that sandwich and go bloody hell Tom, thank you so much. If I was going to do that I'd go can I recommend the corned beef and cheese with a little bit of branson pickle. If I was you, if you've got the time on your lunch break get that toasted, it'll blow your mind. Do the toasties here, just found out myselfshake. But also the soup's incredible. Yeah, okay. But also, then what you do, after you've said, can I recommend the corned beef and cheese with a little bit of pickle,

get it toasted, then the best thing you could do is look distracted while they make their order, okay? Because what I'm worried that you might then do is if they choose something else, just you're stood there going, tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk you're stood there going, tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk. Well that's a shame that, innit? Sorry mate. Sorry to piss on your chips there, but I actually frequent this shop regularly. And for you to turn around to someone who's doth this cap to you as your kiff and kin and said I recommend a corned beef and cheese with a little bit of pickle. If you didn't throw, yay, nay, fling that in my face as a type of rejection, I've got

to say, well, you know, what a society comes, you know, don't do any of that shit. Just go, I think this might be a nice sandwich and then pay attention to something and maybe look at your phone or whatever. And then if they make a different order, you go, do you know what? I reckon that's going to be just as good, if not better. I'm trying to do a thing when I'm out though in society I'm trying not to be just heading phone all the time well it's funny you say it's funny you say that Tom because Jim but I spoke to you yeah about social media yeah can I say by the way you you spoke about social media in a way that I left this call

questioning everything and about two and a half hours later you posted a picture of yourself on Instagram on your stories when on that very day you what did I do what picture you were out I think it was when you're in Indy did a picture of yourself knowing that you look good because your hair's looking fucking fly at the moment you in a nice fitted t-shirt it wasn't looking not yeah but you do that picture oh yeah yeah yeah so you post about two and a half hours later I'm literally walking around I'm fucking off I've heard fucking JFK or Martin Luther King speech for the first time I have a dream thinking fucking oh this guy's on one

I'm about what he's talking about and it's our audio and then we just post a picture because I look drippy it's like come on man you're better than that well two things I would say is one I'm not better than that and two I'm actually I'm actually taking action well well go and hit me well I've written to Prince William and I've written to Keir Starmer and I'm getting fucking in the mix mate no but I'm not done that but and I'm getting fucking in the mix mate. No but I'm not done that but I genuinely haven't gotten in the mix. I am looking at developing something that's going to help people deal with their social media addiction.

Are you really? Yeah, I decided it's not enough to just talk about it on the podcast. I was like, there's no point ranting about it on the podcast and then just continuing life as normal. I have since I'm in the middle of That's what you did though, by the way. I know I know but did you say I have sinned? No, I have since I have since Oh, I thought you said I have sinned. I was gonna go fucking hell. What's going on here? I have I mean I have sinned but I have since Looked into this and I am genuinely I'm about I'm in the process of doing something so very excited what you good what I can't say

so what social media not anti social media but yeah but if I'm if I'm the head of Coughlands right and I've just invited you onto the board and right and there you fucking you know you got your feet under the table you got your fucking gobs stuff with bloody yum yums and fucking soup and all of a sudden you turn around and go, oh by the way, from this moment onwards and forth I'm not going to be on social media. As you left the room I go, oh god, okay, well no, that's really, I go, what the fuck was he here for then? He's got a million followers on fucking Instagram, four million on fucking TikTok, a cutler fudge of dads on a bloody Facebook and then we just

not gonna be on social media what's where he was meant to promote this fucking stuff well two things I say so that first of all I now have an idea of how closely you're monitoring my numbers on social media secondly Sean Coughlin actually made that same point he didn't say it as aggressive as you, but he did say slightly on... Yeah, because Sean's a fucking very good business. A lovely man by the way, very commendable human being. Also by the way, can I say a shout out to Sean, and I'm sure that you're involved in some... Sean's the only soup company that's got involved, so me and Sean have been chatting. Before I knew that you're also one of the big names on the board,

but Sean is, me and him have been chatting about doing a little soup vibe, a sweet, sweet soup for December. Yeah, so that's exciting. I might try and block that actually. But it's not about- Don't block it, because at the moment it's doing real good.

You can't fucking take with one hand and give with the other, mate. That's how it works. I can, I think you're gonna find out that I am actually about to do that. No, it's not about walking away completely from social media, although that is, that would be, I do think that would be a positive step for a lot of people. It's about just trying to introduce some responsibility into it. I don't want to sound, look, it's early days, but I'm on it. I'm on it. I actually think, I actually respect you for that.

If you do what you say you're going to do. Yeah. I actually think one minute, you could become a prime minister of this great nation. You'd be a good prime minister, I think. No, I wouldn't. If you can get Kofron's fucking absolutely smashing it, which is a business, alongside all of your public speaking and all that stuff you're doing, and then you did a social media thing, you'd become somebody who could be a runner. Yeah, maybe. You'd become a very interesting candidate. Yeah it's I mean it's something that I would never do. Look at all the work you're doing for calm, shout out the hoodie vibe, you're a good human being yeah I'd vote for you thanks not just as your best friend but I'd say yeah if I

can and I'd probably go door to door go by the way do you know Romesh is here's some soup from Coughlin's and a yum yum these are courtesy of Romesh Ranganathan he's your yeah I do think when Rishi Sunak sort of from Coughlands and a yum yum. These are courtesy of Romesh Ranganathan. He is your prime minister stroke councillor. I do think when Rushy Sunak sort of reflects on his comprehensive defeat by the Labour Party they will think to themselves why did we not go door to door. We should have done a bit more of that and maybe we would have. You're being facetious and you're mocking, I will say I think going door to door isn't like a guy knocked on my door the other day and you're, you're, you're, you're mocking. I will say, I think going door to door isn't like, a guy knocked on my door the other day

and you were saying like, dissracks and stuff, right? Yeah, sure, but you're missing my point. The point I'm trying to make is, they all go door to door, right? It's a valid technique. Not yum yums and Coughlin soup. Yeah, but I'm not gonna go around going vote for, I mean, first of all, cost-wise, it's absolutely,

if every vote I've got to hand out a fucking yum yum and a soup It's the biggest scandal in British politics. We could be either or it's yes till Basically buying votes with a fucking vegan tomato You know, we don't just have vegan that'll be a fucking killer by the way, how would you like a soup or a yum yum? What soup you got? Oh, it's a vegan tomato. Have you got any right ox tail or chicken broth? No, I just work with a big access what I what you've got to do is a politician is you've got in your head Be like I've got a little side for everyone. So you've already

You know little push trolleys that they have and then you sort of write a lot I know two bats like I've that's what I have a people often son You'd have like a meat and you'd have a vegan soup, right? So yum yums, maybe saying yes, just in case people don't like yum yums. Well look, if it ever comes to it that I'm running for prime minister, that's what I'll do, thank you for that.

And then you probably need like someone driving a van, so you'd just be able to go and restock. And what am I doing? I'm going to everybody across the United Kingdom. Well no, that's why I'd probably probably do it probably get Beckett to do it I thought so I think we're right. Oh, is that what you got five of us? Okay, I think that's a done deal No, no, you've got you've got more friends at least would do it. See I would be of age

Do I would be fucking great? I'm no dinner should definitely do it and he do some funny Instagram videos Yeah, Lisa Lisa my mum and dad would probably do it because they love you Lisa would not support my bid to become Prime Minister of this country, I can tell you that now. But, yeah, there's no way. She'd be First Lady. She'd be First Lady. You know, you know, you know, you know,

listen, you know Lisa, right? You know Lisa. Do you think, she doesn't even want to be a comedian's wife, let alone the Prime minister's wife? Right, okay, let's go to the next email. Thank you so much for that. This is from Megan Lee aka the elephant hello animal pack me and my husband have a pack slash agreement packs I think that is slash agreement but if we ever got the chance to cheat with a celebrity it would be a free pass and it wouldn't affect our relationship mine is J house and his is Alice from

Luther I'm assuming he sort of means the actor, isn't it? Alice from Luther? What the, is she the villain in Luther? But he says specifically, what's the name of the actor that plays Alice in Luther? Well, no, it sounds like he likes a character more than the actress. That's what I mean. It's like, does he want her to like,

it sounds like he actually specifically likes her in that role, and he wouldn't want her to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ruth Wilson. So he's saying, he's not saying Ruth Wilson, he's saying Alice from Luther. Is that what we're getting from this? Yeah, yeah, I think so, yeah, yeah.

So obviously, yeah, she'd have to just be in character. If he met her somewhere in a bar and he met Ruth Wilson. I mean, how far into the character is he wanting her to go? I mean, I think if you got to Ruth Wilson and you go, look, I've got a thing here. I've got a pass to sleep with you. Are you up for it? And then she go, first of all, I wouldn't,

I'm not suggesting that you would ever do this, but let's just hypothesize that you did think this is an appropriate thing to do. Go up to Ruth Wilson and you go, listen listen I've got a past to sleep with you and then she goes... Can I tell you by the way someone said that to me about you? Said what to you? Said about me? Someone I've been in I've been out and someone said oh if you if you ever speak to Ramesh he's my past. Okay why have you only waited till now to tell me this? Well no because you're happy married and I thought it was a bit of a straight-

No, but I've got a pass to sleep with anyone. I'm not your pimp, I'm not like Tony Maguire. I've got a pass from Lisa to sleep with anyone who I'm their pass. So that would have worked out pretty well. No, but then you go up to Ruth Wilson and you go would you sleep with me? She goes yeah actually, do you know what? Weird one, but I've not got a lot on this afternoon. Let's do it. And then he goes, there is one stipulation. Yeah.

You would have to be Alice from Luther. I think that might be the deal breaker. Do you know what I mean? I think the whole thing's a bit of it. Also, but I can't say that she's really doing a lot of good work. But Tom, I also think the whole thing's ridiculous. But don't start throwing me under the bus like that.

No, you love it. You make it out, I think it's legit. Can I say that Ruth Wilson's doing a lot of good work for the name Ruth. What do you mean? My first headmistress was called Ruth Singleton from what I remember. I know I just think that Ruth is a good old school name that we haven't, we don't get a lot of Ruths left you know what I mean and it's a nice it's a decent name. Yeah but the way you said that suggests that your old headmistress got up to something naughty and that this Ruth Wilson is now helping to cancel it out. Ruth Singleton was a classy and a lovely lady.

Okay, all right. Yeah, very much in your mould actually as a teacher. Decent, caring. Well, you've got no idea what I was like as a teacher. Well, yeah, I spoke to quite a lot of your students. Again, with like the past thing, I've had a number of people come out go oh Ramesh taught us in year seven or whatever or year 12 and it was a really really fun guy to be yeah he was really fun to be around you're lucky to have him as a friend I'm like yeah very much

yeah weirdly actually one of your old students said that you were their past. Yeah, we'd actually one of your old she said that you are their pass Yeah, they showed it to me but I said some that I'm your teacher this can't it can't Can't happen Do either of you have to either of you have a free cheating pass agreement in your marriages? I mean deep down we know it would never happen But always good to have your back covered in case God is on your side all the love G's From the elephant Tom. Do you have a pass? No, I don't I find it a really weird thing. I find it. I don't know. Maybe I'm old I find that a strange thing to

like Yeah, we've never it's not been so we talk about I don, or like we've ever turned around and go off. Also, it's a weird, like this, but if, if for example, because me and you work within this industry, the person you pick, you're not going to turn around and say, oh, my free pass is Mary works down at the bakers. Do you know what I mean? If she's ever around, usually free passes are people within the celebrities or singers or whatever. So we work in an industry, so if I was to go on my free passes so and so and then three or four months later it turns Catherine and go, oh guess what, I'm working with so and so, she'd go what? And also on the flip of that... I don't think Catherine would be worried. I don't think Catherine would suddenly think that's gonna happen.

No, but if Catherine turned around to went, oh my free pass is Rio Ferdinand and then we're at a fucking do and I saw her chatting to Rio Ferdinand I would be like oh no. If I've okayed that and sort of go oh yeah that's your free pass yeah and she says to Rio it's a free pass do you know what I mean? Rio is obviously happily married but yeah that would be a worry. Yeah no I understand think you're you're and also I do think it's it's open in a valve of stuff that's quite, you know, because what magic right magic so to speak what you and Lisa are sitting there you're like, Oh, yeah, my free passes, I've no Taylor Swift. And then Lisa's like, Oh, my free passes. I don't know, John Malkovich, right? And then if Lisa's there, out and then she goes, I've got a confession to make, you know, I slept with the guy who does the trolleys at Tesco's, he looks a bit like John Malkovich and we did have that arrangement, right? You'd be like, what the fuck? But actually she'd be like what the fuck but actually she'd be like yeah but like he felt I'd never meet John McAvich this feels like

the closest thing do you know what I'm saying? Yeah I understand what you're saying yeah sort of I mean it's really fucking long and meandering doesn't really have any relevance to what we're talking about but yes I do understand what you're saying I would I don't think well I do have a child by the way just thinking about Lisa Kissinger Malcolm yeah first of all my three parts would not be Taylor Swift okay can I just say that okay not that I don't think she's attractive I just think it's ridiculous I'm a 46 year old man well so you see so you're making it of you're you're now thinking about it in a way of going, okay, who's realistic?

No, I'm not saying who's realistic, I'm just saying it's like, how old is Taylor Swift? She's like 20 years younger than me, it's like fucking depraved. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I know, yeah, but it's the first two notes that go to my head. I'm not like Lisa Ranganave with her fucking sexy ballers, just fantasizing over 20 somethings, you know what I mean? I don't operate like that. Yeah, but that's the other thing that's,

can I say that's the other thing, like Catherine and her friends, when they talk about like footballers and singers and stuff, they're like, yeah, they're hot. And there is a 20 year old difference, there is a difference to that, do you know what I mean? If Lisa took my answer and went, I want to have sex with Phil Foden,

you'd be like, okay, cool. Yeah. Would I? Would I? Is that what you think my reaction would be? You're using it as a support. Like, you know, it's weird, isn't it? You wouldn't have anything to do with Taylor Swift, but if Lisa said she wanted to shag Phil Foden, you'd be like, yeah, okay.

Would I? Is that how your argument goes? is that you following the logic? I my free part we do actually have this agreement actually in place and Lisa's Idris Elba and mine is So by the way that you interest Idris move in very similar circles. If he hears this... I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking. We don't have that group.

But I do think, first of all, with regards to a pass, I would love a pass with Lisa. Even if it's just on my birthday. Let me work on that initially, before we start talking about other people that I want to pass with. Secondly, I think genuinely if Lisa said to me, and by the way, I'm not saying this for comic effect. I am being genuine now. I love Lisa unconditionally, right?

unconditionally. And even if like, even if like we split up, and something happens, and she doesn't want to be with me, I will still love that woman. Yeah, right. So if she said to me, she'd have to have a real support and argument. But if she said to me, Romesh, I'm trying to think of what it would be something like Romesh, I've been really feeling down about myself. I got chatting to let's just use Idris in this example, I got chatting to Idris Elba. I got chatting to, let's just use Idris in this example.

I got chatting to Idris Elba. Phil Foden, I think Phil Foden's better. Okay, let's just say it's Phil Foden, right? So essentially it goes, I got chatting to Phil Foden, right? And I really think he's attractive. And he, I think he feels the same way. And it really gave me a boost to know that. And I feel like just as a one-off, it would be incredible if I was able to like.

I think what she'd have to say for you is like, I've been trying to feel phoned online. He followed me. Yeah, he gets me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He understands me. And like, you know, we like we just have a connection and it's just like a really set. Like, I don't want to have a relationship with him. I know that would be ridiculous. And I'm not saying that I want to leave. What I'm saying is just as a bit of fantasy fulfillment I would love to fuck Phil Foden I think there is a world in which I'd go okay I just hope you have a

really good time I mean the reality of it would be horrific. Do you know what I mean? I'd be sat at home with the kids. Two months later, two months later, she comes in the room and goes, Hi, um, remember what happened with Phil Foden? Yeah, yeah, I can't really watch from actually the back. Yeah, it's just a weird thing because I've been chatting to Cole Palmer on... Can I ask you a question? You know your fourth kid. Yeah, why has he got such a weird fringe?

What's little Phil got such how come your fourth is so fucking good at football what's going on Tom. You've got a little 47 tattooed behind his ear. Thank you so much Elephant for your email. Right Tom, that brings us to the end of these things, this thing. I'm very excited because I'm seeing you tonight and I'm seeing you on Tuesday. For the very exciting, the very exciting Ali Pali Christmas show I still

haven't collected my costume yet I don't know if this person somebody's nicked it yeah I still need to get I weirdly stood down tones and Luca for you might know I need to probably don't get it I need to actually speak to him tomorrow. Anyway, I digress. Man flu. Christmas cold. Snoddy, grotty. It's easy to dispel this as just being something that's in somebody's head. But actually, sitting here now,

feeling a little bunged up, there's nothing quite as bad as thinking, can I get out of bed today? Can I fight on? Fight good, fight true. Empathy and sympathy are incredible. A little arm around someone's almost the best medicine you can give them.

That aside, some warm cough and soup or a sandwich from Paul Roth and sons. Sometimes the smallest mercies come in the smallest ways, but sometimes a bigger way is needed. Sometimes you need an arm around the shoulder and a little peck on the cheek to say hey things are gonna be better. Your nose will become unblocked and your head will become clearer and you know something you'll be okay again. And that's the thing about Christmas colds, bugs, flus and the ETC. They're always gonna be there.

Some people turn around and say cool things didn't used to be like this but they always were. If you were to go back in time and see Henry VIII, I'm pretty sure that guy would have had a cold in December. And that is history. The past, the present and of course the future. If you go through all in time, a thousand years, I'm pretty sure you'll meet an alien called Orko. He'll have a Christmas cold. Some things last a test of time, but some things don't. Get ready for change, but always be ready for the same.

Have a good week, friends. Really, really good, Tom. Thank you. And you know, things I don't know about you, you're a He-Man fan, I had no idea. So that's a new thing to find out about The He-Man was that was a reference or okay. Oh, well, it was okay from here man Do you know who or co is in a man? No, or co's a little wizard guys. No, okay

Okay, maybe I've got this wrong. Is he called okay? I think you wrote into the podcast he had a Thundercats jump on and it really made me happy who's your favorite undercut well sure oh that's your favorite snuffs your favorite starts great that starts great I like Lino obviously because he's a boss and who's the gray one who was my mama mama mama was pretty sick mom right? Yeah, well mom was the sort of the bad guy So yeah, but he was here to fight. I was for sorry for mom right I'd like to see a spin-off about his life outside Thundercats was he married did he have kids? Yeah, I mean, how did he end up getting so disenfranchised would be a nice thing to know about

Sorry, I'm trying to look for the I want to do somebody a favor here for the for the clothes Oh, you know by the way, just a quick song if you you haven't listened to it, listen to the parents out there. That me and Grace have been listening to quite a lot. I'm just going to play this quickly because it's our little... Okay. ...kind of family anthem. We've really enjoyed this. Oh God, what's this? Is this Willie Bom Bom? No, it's called Mr Stinky Bum. Mr Stinky Bart. Okay, go on, let's hear it. called mr. stinky bum mr. stinky because it's only on Spotify I've still got my contract with Apple Music. It's fucking insane.

Yeah, okay. All right. Okay. Hey Wolf, Al, Cat and the Swan. The Metal Mongoose here. I'm reaching out to Metal Rom. I play in a band and we have a new single coming out this week. After seeing Rom on the main stage of download, I thought you might appreciate this track and it would absolutely make a card day if you ended the podcast with our new track. We are the Bastard Sons from York and our new track is Skeletons. Keep doing what you're doing. So there you go. JT, can you play Skeletons by the Bastard Sons?

I hope it gives you a bit of a boost, guys. Well done on forming a band. I wish you the very best of luck. From Tom and I, thank you so much, guys. Peace, people, peace, peace. We'll see you. We will see you very soon. Love you, bye. people peace peace. We will see you very soon love you bye If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all, please email us at wolfalpod.gmail.com.

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