Wolf and Owl - S3 Ep 7: Not a Film Pitch bonus

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

This week’s Film Pitch bonus show has been very much derailed. Instead of what Rom And Tom were supposed to be talking about, they mostly discussed… swapping hair, negative social media comments, bovine coffee, more mushroom powder, Rom’s eventful morning on This Morning and a return to the Langham Hotel. We’ll get back to the Film Pitches soon hopefully. Enjoy! Thanks for all your messages - keep them coming at [e-mail] Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Expect killings, red spilling and flesh ripping. Impressive in it, the death bringing, it's head spinning. Just kidding, every word in this song's about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog. Welcome, welcome to the Wolf and our bonus podcast check um yo i wasn't very happy with how my hair looked in the video and actually i've got a bit of a bone to pick with you because i i just got out of bed and like sort of this side of my hair was kind of bed and like sort of this side of my hair was kind of it looked like i had a sort of a lego sort of block on my hair and then um it's actually quite a roller coaster this because i um i didn't see because on this thing it's like just a little you just see yourself little you see the other

person big right so yeah i did the i did the podcast and then I sent the video clips to JT. And as I watched the video clip, it came up on the whole screen. I was like, oh, God, that is a nightmare. Why hasn't Tom told me that I look like that? Well, number one, that is literally like, I've been having this with Catherine recently. Me commenting on people's hair is, I never take any comment,

look at loads of anyone's hair. I literally, I'm out of that game. It's like asking someone who hates football, what do you think of like Arsenal's fucking system this year? I've no, what advice do you want from a man who, I've been out of the hair game for nearly 10 years now.

You're a hair admirer. You're somebody that's frequently commenting on it. I admire it at times, but it seems like, so for example, the other day, Catherine turned around to me and said, oh, can you brush Gracie's hair and put it in pigtails? I was like, I've got no idea how to do that. I haven't worn pigtails myself probably since I was like 16, 17.

21, 22. Yeah. Oh, fuck. But hold on, hold on, hold on. So you didn't notice my hair? No. Okay. I didn't notice. i always think your hair looks exemplary well you just said that you don't notice hair and you're out of the hair game and no but if i look at it i think if i'm honest with you man i look at your hair and think fucking oh i'd like that hair on my head rather than his okay fine or you'd like my hair so hold on if you had the choice you my hair would be on your head

and i would have no hair that if in an ideal world that would be your fantasy i adore you as you well know if we got into a sit put it straight right if me and you were at a tube station we're just you know having a chat you know we've both got a milkshake each uh we've probably just had some popcorn even though we haven't been to the cinema which is unusual right we're at a tube station we're chatting away and a magician comes up to us what a tragic set of affairs that would be a magician comes up to us and he says

oh Tom and Romesh I've been watching you for some time and I'm like oh wow I haven't seen you around is no I'm a magician a man of magic I can morph into many different guises. Do you remember the squirrel that was in your garden the other week, Romesh? And you'd be like, oh, fucking hell, I sort of do, but then I don't.

And he'll be like, that was me, boy. And then he'll basically turn around and say a similar thing. I would probably have an issue with him calling me boy. That's what he calls everyone. Anyway, he was like, like tom i have a question for you would you like romesh's hair upon your head and i don't have to look at you and i i have no doubt like your hair is beautiful and i'll go yeah fuck it yeah go on mate yeah yeah and then i suspect what would happen after that is he'd go tom romesh okay yes aren't you a little bit old to be believing in magicians

you've absolutely done us wrong I'll tell you what I think magicians are the worst people in the whole fucking world on this right there was a comment on Instagram that I got alerted to

from a couple of people about someone had commented that I'm on a five-street, episode five-street thing of complaining about things, whether it's celebrities or food. I'd arguably say I'm on a 300 episode streak I was going to say the biggest surprise of that observation is that somebody

thinks it's only a 5 streak but what also it was like the person is like oh yeah I'm really sick of this this guy's complaining all the time

I don't really like this side of things I'm not listening anymore and I was like well you're complaining about me complaining like look if I'm honest with you

do you know this is why i never try i try not to read reviews it's like when we had reviews about the body just more like us being put the body is more for us feeling like overweight then there was loads of people like there'd be someone would comment oh yeah yeah that's all they talk so you then get into a place where you think oh actually maybe i shouldn't complain but i only ever talk about how i feel on this podcast i don't ever come in here and go i'm gonna complain about it i'm this i literally say what's in my head yeah and that's what the podcast is so i find it insane yeah essentially i mean i think the good the good thing is is you don't seem to be bothered about it so which is oh no i'm bothered by it i'm not gonna. I could sit here and tell you

I was one of those people that just swipe it off and go into the day with a big smile on my face. I imagine it ruined your day, didn't it? I imagine it ruined your day. It's not just ruined my day, it's seeped into today as well. So it's been 24 hours of absolute angst about one person. And you know what? I'm a bit of a quandary do i now not complain about things do i sit here and listen listen do not this is the part of the

problem of social media and people have an access to you you know when you create stuff i'm going to get a bit worthy here when you create stuff it should be what you want to create do you mean and like oh yeah no but and I've always been like that but the problem with social media is it allows you to have a direct a direct

live stream of what people think of you it's both damaging in the positive and the negative but also in this person's defence

you're not as good you are not as good in this person's defence yeah and look I've held my hands up about my post about the restaurant

the said restaurant which we won't mention. But I am critical of things. I do complain or get upset about it. I'm invested in certain programs, and I'll turn around and say certain things. So I guess my thing was, yesterday when I read this, I was like, I can't really sit here and get too upset. But it's obviously had a bearing. Yeah. Well, I'm't really sit here and get too upset, but it's obviously, it's had a bearing. Yeah.

Well, I'm sorry to hear that, Tom. You know, and listen, if it's any consolation, I think you're a wonderful, wonderful person. And even the way you're sort of sipping that coffee as you do this, it's a huge... You know what I've got in this? What, a massive mug? No, it's a bovine coffee.

Oh, no. Have you managed to make coffee i've made in it yeah basically yeah what is it it's really good it's bovine like a bovine broth yeah yeah when i think you misunderstood the question when i said what is it i didn't say repeat you seem to have heard that question could you just repeat exactly what you said what what is it what is a bovine coffee so it's a bovine powder that you put into your coffee, give it a quick stir, gives you a little protein, some nutrients. It's a really good vibe, man.

It's enlightened my day. So, hold on, I just want to clarify. You've added powdered cow to your coffee? Yeah, yeah. As a vegan, I'm guessing you're against that. Listen, I'm not one of these people that sort of you know

is appalled by I'm just no no no but the bovine that is what is that ground up cow yeah it's like yeah sort of a version

of yeah yeah yeah it's it's basically it's the nutrients and stuff like me and you are very different ends of the scales

with our diets right hmm you know it would be actually interesting to compare our diets, like do a week of what we both eat. Well, I mean, I do think we're opposites in terms of I'm trying to take meat out of my dinner and you're trying to add it to your morning coffee. I would say that's...

No, but... That is pretty much part of our opposite. Yeah, but I'm a very proud carnivore. No, I don't... Listen, I don't... I do not... Please do not at me. I don't want any

accusations of me being some sort of fascist. And vice versa. I very much respect Tom's, yeah, I respect Tom's

choices. I'm just expressing like a, it's a novelty factor of me that I didn't realise that you could add

profound powder to your coffee. Mate, it's not just the meat, but it's the nutrients and the goodness. Yeah, sure. Yeah, that's what you get when you really sort of ground up the whole animal. Is that something that we're going to start seeing? Because a lot of these times, I would say that you're a bit of a,

you know, because full disclosure here. Oh, God, I've said it again. But you know, a few weeks ago, you were talking about some sort of mushroom chutney know you you a few weeks ago you were talking about some sort of mushroom chutney or something you bought what did you buy no no that was mushroom powder mushroom powder okay do you know who has just bought mushroom powder who the swamp on the way here is some sort of lion's mane mushroom powder thing. Yeah, that's the one I had. Yeah. Just please, please, incredibly excited about it. Yeah, tell her to go easy on it.

Okay. But the reason I... Because I put two bigger... I put... Essentially, I... So what happens, I brought lions... There's three different sorts, I'm going to tell the story,

three different types of this mushroom powder. Yeah. And you're going to put a teaspoon in your coffee in the morning. I basically put a teaspoon of each one. So I put three teaspoons in an espresso and got the shits for like three days. Yeah. Because I overdosed. Yeah.

Well, I'm sort of debating whether I tell the swan that or not, actually, depending on how I'm feeling. Oh, come on. You can have it, by the way. Oh, by the way, mate, it's vegan. So you can have it. Yeah, thank you, Tom. Thank you.

Mushrooms are vegan. What a patronising way of delivering that uh information but what i would say is i do think you're sort of ahead of the curve when it comes to these sort of things i believe you were the one i would tell you now you one of the first advocates of butter coffee i believe is that is that right yeah yeah i had well coconut coffee no yeah i was doing that when we first started but then my mate had a heart attack and he put a lot of it down to coconut oil. Yeah, I've heard. I've heard.

Well, I mean, listen, I don't want to start bringing down the coconut industry because of something that you've heard. Mate, look. Mate, me and you, we could fucking try as hard as we want. We're not going fucking toe-to-toe with coconuts. They've fucking got it now, mate.

They had a little bit of time in the wilderness, but they've got the water now. That's smashing it. The oil's smashing it um the butter the oil's smashing it used to be a time like maybe one two people in your life that they've even been near a coconut yeah like drunk right now you go on holiday you see people drinking cocktails out of them hold on one second tom i've got a little bit of a issue here hold on one second Tom I've got a little bit of a

issue here what's happened my my headphones have just died this is unbelievable you're joking I'm not I'm not joking

I wish I was joking Tom just bear with me oh god I'm going to have to hold on two secs at Enterprise at enterprise we know you're constantly on the move getting this thanks mom fixing that you reach a destination and then it's on to the next and when life is moving at the speed of well life enterprise is right there with, around the corner and around the globe. We'll keep you moving forward.

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On April 5th. You must be very careful, Margaret. It's the girl witness the birth bad times will start out evil things of evil it's all you know don't the first o-man i believe the girl is to be the mother mother of what is the most terrifying 666 is the mark of the devil movie of the year hello yes yes yes yes okay great uh so guys it's the the the yeah the three simple components of the podcast headphones headphones, internet, another one of those components in my life has failed. Anyway, sorry, what were you saying, Tom?

I literally can't even remember now. Oh. Oh, the coconut. I was saying about how incredible the coconut is. Yeah. I mean, I think the moment's gone, chatting out the coconut. I mean, he's an incredible guy. Well, I'm going to say now coconut coconut water is next level right

how much coconut water are you drinking a week can you hear something what's going on we've got someone who's just arrived

to do some work at the house I thought honestly mate it's really coming through clear I can hear that Gary's turning up later is. I can hear that Gary's turning up later.

Is it? Did you hear that? Yeah, Gary, my mate, is coming to do some work on the house. Shout out to Gary Manley. All right. Well, listen, we're... Yeah. This is so falling apart here.

But two things I want to tell you. It's now derailed. Yeah, it's derailed badly. Two things I want to tell you. It's now derailed. Yeah, it's derailed badly. Two things I want to tell you. One, I went on This Morning yesterday to talk tour stuff. Do you know I've never been on This Morning? Well, that was my first time. I don't know if I...

That was my first time. Really? Yeah. I thought you'd been on there loads of times. No, I've never been on it before. Right. My mum phoned me and said, I'm really excited that you're going on This Morning. So, you know, it's one of times. No, I've never been on it before. Right. My mum phoned me and said, I'm really excited that you're going on this morning.

So, you know, it's one of those shows that, you know, she's more impressed than she would be by other shows, right? And so I went on the show and they asked me to do this, like Lisa Snowden, it's so funny, when you go on this morning, the things that, anyway, Lisa Snowden was on there making pancakes. And they asked me if i could get involved in the pancake but she'd done some vegan pancakes for me right so i ate the pancakes i did the interview which feels very kind of you know they've got they've got a cram in a lot don't they so you're sort of there who's

there by the way who's that rylan and roch Rochelle. Oh, I love Rylan. Yeah. Rochelle's great. Rylan's a G. I just think he's an X-level broadcaster, man. He's good. He's incredible. He's an amazing viewer. And he's just a lovely, lovely guy as well.

He is. So we did the... We did this... I did Spin the Wheel with them, where... Wow. You invited to do Spin the Wheel? Well, I was sort of sat next to it and Rylan said, do invited to do spin the wheel well i was sort of sat next to it and rylan said do you want do you want to spin the wheel i thought you actually

spun the wheel i did spin the wheel no i did spin the wheel so they said do you want to spin that man it's big that's fucking big bro yeah and then to win the bonus ken from wherever he's from was asked uh ken to win the bonus prize which comedian comedian are we talking to later on the sofa? And he said, I don't really know. I've been out and about. And then Ryland said, well, you know, think about who we're with now. And he said, oh, oh. And then he said, Ramesh Ramadang Ding Dong.

What? It was something like that. I mean, he basically. What? Oh, my God. I mean, he wasn't. It was him giving a good stab at the surname, but it was...

Yeah, but that feels still quite harsh. Well, he was desperate for the prize. He was under pressure. Did he get a prize, by the way? Yeah, I mean, it was close enough, isn't it? We did Google to see if there's a Romesh... I can't remember how he pronounced... I mean, I've almost certainly see if there's a Romesh. I can't remember how we pronounce it. I mean, I've almost certainly said it in a more of a...

In a more... That's basically like if I was on there and he went, oh, yeah, I think, yeah, Tim Dimple will... Yeah, I mean, it took you a while to get there, but yes, but you are making the same point. But the other thing that happens... What frustrates me is you can't just give him a prize if he's got the name wrong.

So what's he get? What did he win, like 800 quid? He won a grand, and then I think... I can't remember what the... He won a grand for getting someone's name wrong. No, he won the grand for... This is the problem with the world at the moment. I'm going to tell you now,

this is the problem with the world at the moment. Well, I'd say part of the problem... There used to be a time when you'd ask... Mate, on Bullseye, you asked it mate on Bullseye you weren't going on Bullseye and getting people's names

completely wrong and winning prizes Jim Bowen's not slipping you a score if you turn around and

get a name wrong I don't think they had a single Asian guest on the whole run of Bullseye did

though they didn't get names from back in the day did they they were good old-fashioned names like john smith and andrew ryan um anyway the uh the um listen he i don't i'm slightly nervous with franken under the wheel here he he he obviously had never heard of me and then was just trying to give it a go do you know what what I mean? But anyway, that's at the point.

You know what was happening? Someone in the background was mouthing your name to him. Possibly. Possibly, yeah. Pointing at you and just saying. Yeah, or just giving their head a little wobble like this. It's him. It's that one.

Oh, no, no, no. I'm just... Anyway, I left I mean we're supposed to be doing a film pitch episode for 20 minutes here to be fair we're running into a place now where I don't think the film pitch is showing

let's tell your second tour we're going to do film pitches next week this is just now an elongated version of the normal one so anyway I left the podcast not not the podcast, I left this morning, and I headed off to, I had a couple of meetings over, and my mum hadn't phoned me. And normally, when my mum's excited about me doing something,

she'll phone me straight away or send me a message or something. So she hadn't called, right, and hadn't got in touch. So I phoned her up and I said, how's it going? She goes, yeah, fine, fine. I said, did you watch it? She said, yeah, I did. and I said um I said how's it going she goes yeah fine fine I said did you watch it she said yeah I did and I said okay I said what did you what did you think of it and she said uh were you very hungry when you turned up at this morning and I said well I wasn't particularly on the watch because the way you ate the pancakes, why did you eat it like that? And then I said, what do you mean?

She goes, you just seem so, so very hungry when you ate the pancake. And honestly, mate, she just basically, you know, like that internet comment, my mum put this thing in my head. It's again, this thing with eating food on television. I seem to have a bad thing every single time so she put it in my head it's a struggle to make it look good yeah um so so that

was that and then after i did that i went to langham's right wow okay now i i now listen let me just clarify this because i can see rage in your eyes eyes. I had to go to the radio show to do... So the radio show is just by where Langham's is, right? So I thought to myself, I had a debate. I was like, that's the nearest place. I sort of need a waz and I want a coffee. This is the closest place. Well, arguably, knowing where you do your radio show,

it's almost closer to go to the Cafe Nero right by the okay I'd arguably say if you're just going for a coffee

and a Waz you can't take a Waz at Cafe Nero mate it's got a beautiful toilet it's got a really nice toilet at the back yeah but don't you

have to ask for it and then they give you a code on the receipt or some shit I find that all that really humiliating I actually like that I feel like a Yeah, but don't you have to ask for it and then they give you a code on the receipt or some shit? I find that all really humiliating. I actually like that. I feel like a special agent.

I don't like having to announce to somebody that I'm going to the toilet. Okay? Mate, I don't feel like it's announced more and more

as it's a warning. Anyway. Go on, you went Langham. Set me up. Yeah, okay, well listen, I was going in there for five minutes, right,

to have a Waz and maybe grab a coffee, right? I was slightly nervous because I don't know how much they know about what we said about them on the podcast. I do know that they did a post with an advert on it and that post was firebombed by Wolf and Owl listeners, right? And shout out to everyone who firebombed it. Why don't you?

I respect and love each and every one so I went I went into Langhams and the place I wanted to go was closed like they've got

like a little bar thing so I started to panic a little bit I don't know why I just sort of I felt like I was going into

enemy territory or something like that do you know what I mean so yeah yeah well you were you were not a friend of the podcast podcast no no so so then somebody said can i help you immediately i'm

just like oh god i look at a place there and i said i just well i just wanted to i didn't say i wanted to use the toilet because as you know i'm very secretive about those sort of things i said i'm just after a coffee quickly i had to do a bit like a quick little bit of work and the guy said to me um oh it's closed that bit and he said but you can go around to the this bar around the corner and um he actually walked me to the were you worried it was going to turn into like joe pesci from i was a little bit nervous well because the thing is mate he took me around to the bar and there's like a curtain by the door. And I thought, this is just the... Oh my God, that's Pesky. This is just the arse-kicking chamber, isn't it?

I'm just going to get a fucking... Yeah, yeah. ...clout to the back of the head. Because I'd be like Robert De Niro and you'd be like Joe Pesky in that situation. Okay. I mean, I... Do you know what...

Do you know what happened there? I tried to think of a response, but I just thought he's got me banged to the right, sir. But then I just had this sort of... Anyway, he said to me, I response, but I just thought he's got me banged. All right, sir. But, but then I just had this sort of note. Anyway, he said to me, I said, I've just come in for a drink.

And he said, you, well, you can't say like that. I've just come in for a drink. That's all I want. He said, he said,

he must've gone. You'll get more of the drink power. He said, he might be fucking cussing himself. He said, are you eating or drinking? And then I said, I'm just wanting to have a drink.

And he said, well, there's nowhere to sit down. You'll have to stand at the bar. So I looked at the thing and I basically went to the toilet. But I basically got, I sort of got intimidated out of the venue. And then, you know what, it taught me a lesson. Don't ever go, you know i i should have listened to the langhams don't have yeah langhams langhams is oh they're like they've not even learned from what happened with what i love is this verification that they've not learned at all from what happened

well the guy to be fair the guy the guy walked me around there the guy from the thing what yeah what you ran and intimidated you into a place where you didn't want a coffee. He literally went in there clucking for some hot liquid in you. Oh, my God. You've actually... He's walked off, you sprinted, had a piss and fucking ran out. Hmm. Yeah, that's possible. That's not good customer service, my man.

Well, the guy walked me around... That's nice of him for you, bro. Yeah, but I feel like you might be... The guy walks me around to the thing. It's not his fault that the my man. Well, the guy walked me around. That's nice of you, bro. Yeah, but I feel like you might be... The guy walked me around to the thing. It's not his fault that the place is too busy, is it? No, but there was an atmosphere in there, is what you're saying. You felt very on edge.

And you're not scared, man. I've been in places with you. You're quite tough. Yeah, what I would say, though, is... Yeah, OK. Thank you for adding in your own way. I was wearing a hoodie and jeans and trainers, and I walked in there and everybody...

Everyone's in a suit. Basically, yeah, basically. And so I just... You know, it's one of those things, it's like when you were talking about the last time we went there. Bro, you've just come from this morning where you've given someone £1,000 for getting your name wrong. That's the kind of boogey he's dealing with right here right he needs to fucking

wrap up he yeah to be fair i think he might have been on shift when this morning was on so he didn't really know but but yeah but it wasn't his fault that i got i got smarted out of the you know i looked around at the type of people they had in there and as is the case with things like that and i know that you're very similar we're very quick to be to feel out of place so i will tell you this as well in the langham's defense i like in the language defense i know that i've got to get dressed up and i've got a fill a million bucks to go into a place like that that's that's like i realize even when i went in i wasn't dressed i probably wasn't dressed accordingly but then i've also been in other places like that and i've been treated far more but and i will say this as well we and you are very blessed that we're able to talk about

this like the one thing i got a lot of when i talked about langans before was i got a lot a lot of messages from people who'd had birthdays there, celebrations there, who got treated very similar to what I did and didn't have a platform to say and had complained and got nothing back. So I think it's, you know, it's... Yeah, that's where I stand. Will you never go back? Will you never go back?

We're literally on half an hour, by the way. We're on half an hour here. We've not done any emails this week. We've not done any bonus stuff. Right, by the way. We're on half an hour here. We've not done any emails this week. We've not done any bonus stuff. Right, well, listen. Thank you so much for listening to the bonus episode. It was supposed to be a film pitch special. We'll probably have to...

Yeah. We'll have to find a way of doing it. And to the guy who listens to the podcast and gets upset about us moaning about things, you know, if you have stuck this one out, I'm sorry sorry it's probably best just to start listening to another podcast i think there's lots of other podcasts there that don't complain about stuff and i you know if you want me to send you a list of recommendations i'm

happy to uh i'm really sorry um it's kind of my fault really yeah and also can i sorry i do feel i've let you down and can i i feel like i've let you down for it yeah and can i good luck with your life yeah and can i take this apology I take this opportunity to apologise to my mum for the way I ate pancakes on this morning yesterday? Sorry, Mum. Yeah, and also while we're apologising, I would like to apologise to Ken if you feel like I was digging you out.

Congratulations, Ken. I actually don't feel sorry. I don't really feel sorry, by the way. I actually just felt like you were apologising for stuff, so I should apologise. Yeah, OK. I'm easily really feel sorry, by the way. I actually just felt like you were apologising for stuff, so I should apologise. Yeah, OK. I'm easily led. Tom, can I apologise to you for us not getting to any of the film pictures?

But please keep sending them. Yeah, and can I apologise to you, Ron, for not saying about your hair on the last podcast? I still look a bit less happy. Yeah, and can I also apologise to the listeners for the quality of what we've just delivered? Yeah. Yeah.

So, god bless you it's a bonus episode people yeah thank you for bearing with yeah and can i also apologize for us playing really fast and loose with the word bonus take care of yourselves guys much love peace out god bless love you jesus bye If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all, please email us at wolfowlpod at gmail.com. That's wolfowlpod at gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you, mainly because we don't have any content ideas.

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