Wolf and Owl - S3 Ep 9: Friday Bonus & Self-Haircuts
Episode Date: February 9, 2024It’s Friday and it’s bonus episode time! First up, a chat about Jim the driver and a TikTok food reviewer controversy (sorry, more TikTok). Then moving onto your emails, we give a very long answer... to a questions about cutting your own hair. Thanks for all your messages - keep them coming at wolfowlpod@gmail.com Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: HELLO@KEEPITLIGHTMEDIA.COM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Two things.
Yo, yo.
Two things I want to talk to you about very, very quickly before we start.
One, this tour is messing with my sleep patterns.
There is a time when 9.25, when we're doing this,
would be so late in my day because I've been up since six or whatever.
I got up half an hour ago.
I don't know what's going on, man. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I've got a toddler, so I was up at six or whatever i got up half an hour ago i don't know what's going on man really yeah
man yeah i've got a toddler so i was up at six when my kids come in and like i sort of
i'm like fucking what's his name from charlie and the chocolate factory
the uncle grandpa joe i'm like grandpa i'm like grandpa because their kids come in and talk to
me i'm just bedridden and get out it's just like hey man
how's it going you alright
I struggled to get out of bed this morning
I was in Brighton gigging last night
and it took me and Jim hours to get home
because the roads were all fucked
so it was like a storm
actually we went for quite a romantic walk last night
before the gig
hold on a second
hold on a second
I need to sort this out
because there's an issue here so Jim drove you back from the gig hold on a second hold on a second I need to sort this out because there's an issue here
so Jim
drove you back
from the gig last night
yeah
Jim that said
he was unavailable
to take me home
from the one show
last night
that Jim
no Jim drove me
all day
I should say
contextualised
Jim drove me
into Portsmouth
so hold on
Jim
Jim that was
supposed to be
with me yesterday
no no no
that Jim
he had
that Jim he had the choice hold on the Jim that plays golf with you that was supposed to be with me yesterday. No, no, no. That gym. He had...
That gym.
He had the choice of...
The gym that plays golf with you.
The gym...
Actually, I should say now.
Are you...
The gym that I've been getting...
Are you planning on using the gym
on Monday or Tuesday
because me and him
are trying to get a game of golf in?
This is the problem with me
not being a social butterfly like you.
It's that now I'm getting people don't...
Now, Jim said to me, he was very cagey about it.
He said, it's going to be someone else on Monday.
Because I can't do it.
Tuesday, Tuesday.
He was with you Monday.
He said he had a lovely day with you Monday.
Wow.
But, right, listen.
So, me and Jim decided that we'd get
to Brighton early.
I don't want to hear about
that fucking turncoat,
all right?
We had this beautiful walk
down the marina,
just chatting together.
Never had a walk with you.
Never had a walk with him.
Have you ever asked him?
He's actually,
he'd love that.
He loves walking.
I know he loves walking,
but he always does the walking
when I'm in doing the thing.
So like when he drops me off somewhere.
Yeah, but when do you get out?
Do you ever get out of the thing
and go, hey, do you want to go Do you ever get out of the thing and go,
hey, do you want to go around and pound the streets together?
No, I don't do that, no.
It's partly my responsibility.
I was like, we got there early.
I said, let's have a little pound down the old marina, mate.
He'd never been there before.
He was like a wide-eyed puppy.
You know, when you sort of take a first take a puppy to a park
and it blows their mind.
Wow, what a great way to describe him.
And as we're walking along the marina, we have a great chat to describe him and as we're walking
along the marina
we have a great chat
having a lovely time
but then this is
really heartbreaking
and this will get you mate
we get to
we're about to go
into the big wall
that you walk out
on Brighton Marina
where you go into the sea
it's closed
because of storm damage
yeah I mean
you know me quite well
don't you
did you think
I was going to find
that heartbreaking
no I thought you'd be like
I fucking have to say
does anybody get hurt
no
no I don't think so
well I think you know
in the grand scheme of things
it feels like quite a minor
doesn't it
I'm more heartbroken
by this fucking
ongoing love story
I'm going to take
this opportunity now
to say Jim
it's been a pleasure
to ride with you as I have done yeah but I'm going to take this opportunity now to say, Jim, it's been a pleasure to ride with you,
as I have done.
I'll tell you what, right?
In a relationship,
in a relationship, Rom,
you don't just give up on stuff.
This is where you get it wrong, mate.
You've got to make more of an effort to do nice things.
I've got very hard and fast rules about that.
I've been betrayed.
It's over.
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Look, if this isn't rom-com, right,
and in a moment you're being played by, I don't know,
fucking Paul Rudd, right,
and I'm like Seth Rogen or Kevin Hart, right?
It's like...
I would love, if we ever got to a point
where they did a film about us, right,
if we ever, I mean, that would never happen,
but if they did a film about us, right, if we ever, I mean, that would never happen, but if they did a film about us,
The Wolf and Owl,
the movie,
if they got Kevin Hart to play you,
I actually think I'd be fucking delighted.
I assume I'd be dead.
That's the only way I'd allow
for something like this to happen.
But,
Right,
so,
and then let's just say that Jim
is being played by
Margot Robbie,
right?
It's like,
it's a situation where,
I'm becoming a casting director
like
no but you're like
oh for fuck's sake
what's going on
right
but actually
what you should do
is go
oh wait there
Jim adores you
Ron
with all of his heart
and his soul
he talks about you
in an affectionate way
like he does
about any of his
kin or his
children
right he literally would do anything for you, right? I think you would make him say...
Except for take me home from the one show.
Look, I mean, financially for Jim, it's a bigger day for him to take me to Portsmouth.
Can I just be clear? Because I don't want to get fucking attacked for this. And I certainly
don't want Jim to get thrown under the car that he uses to drive everyone else apart from me.
But it is,
it does,
it does actually make,
I am aware that it does make sense.
However,
it is a dagger.
Yeah.
It's a small dagger to my heart.
Yeah.
But what I'm saying,
Rob,
do you know what could work for you?
Yeah.
Is if you said like maybe doing so social with Jim,
like having a tickle fight or like.
What is it with you and tickling?
You talked about tickling me awake the other show.
The show.
I don't know.
The way that I describe this as a show.
Welcome to the show.
Fucking hell.
I don't think the word show has been misused more aggressively in history.
I just think there's a world where you could do that for Jim.
Yeah, okay.
All right.
Jim, if you're listening.
Did you get him a Christmas present? Did you get him a Christmas present? Yeah. Okay. All right, Jim, if you're listening,
did you get him a Christmas present? I did actually.
Oh,
good.
Did you get him a Christmas present?
Of course I did.
Yeah.
And what'd you get him?
I get nearly everyone that I've sort of met in fucking over a year.
I get a Christmas present.
Okay.
What'd you get Jim for Christmas?
A nice bottle of whiskey.
That's actually quite nice.
It's nice.
What did you give?
I got him,
uh,
I actually, some old CDs of his favourite singers.
I actually gave him a signed copy of my book.
Are you joking?
Of course I'm joking.
Of course.
Can you fucking imagine?
What would I do?
If I had given him a signed copy of my book for Christmas,
what would you think?
Genuinely.
Yeah, but this is what I'm saying about Jim.
He's such a nice guy.
Jim would have gone,
Hey, thanks, Rom. That's great. Oh, that's really nice. I can't about Jim he's such a nice guy Jim would have gone hey thanks Rom
that's great
oh that's really nice
I can't believe Jim
is driving you around man
like you described him
as a fucking puppy
seeing a marina
for the first time
like he's fucking
grown up in a cave
and now that impression
of him
like that's the only
Scottish voice I can do
right
that's the only version
of
yeah
no I didn't get my sign book
what did you get him
what did you get him what did you get him
I paid for him
and his other half
to go for dinner
at Madu's
at the Grove
oh wow
that is pretty cool
actually
that's pretty
yeah
and that wasn't
I guess I should have
paid for two dinners
then he would have
taken me home
from the one show
I think it
but then it's like
you know the one thing
is that
and this is a
message for everyone
it's a one
the best gift you can give anyone is time, right?
Yeah.
I think.
Yeah.
And, like, yeah, that's the thing.
Or a sort of a multiple drop job.
Do you know what I mean?
That's the other thing.
I mean, that is the ultimate thing you can give somebody.
No, just to be clear, because I don't want to,
I've been guilty of saying things that I obviously don't mean
and then people have taken me seriously.
I love Jim.
I totally get why Jim took Tom.
Please do not at me.
And Jim knows I'm joking.
Well, I hope he knows I'm joking.
I'm never going to see him again.
I'll just assume that Jim knows I'm joking,
but we're never going to speak again. And and then the other thing i want to talk about i know that we wanted to uh we wanted
to go tiktok freeze this uh but i just wanted to talk about a phenomenon i saw so have you heard
of keith lee no keith lee is this american food reviewer, right? Really cool guy. He goes, Is he as good as the Food Review Club?
It's very different.
It's very different, I would say.
Like, Keith Lee kind of,
listen, as much as I love the Food Review Club,
there is a very narrow bracket of things they're trying, right?
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, but also it's probably not for you because it's very meaty.
Yes, it is, yeah.
But I still watch it.
But, you know, Keith Lee is a bit more, he gets a bit more in depth, I guess.
And it's American and it's sort of, you know.
Anyway, so he went to some place called Sweetly Seasoned, right?
It's a food truck, right?
And they had, it was like a proper, like, they had a barber next to it.
You know, it was a whole experience.
Like, outdoor food truck.
It's a bit of a party.
They're playing music, stuff like that, that right so he went to review the thing and then he
went up to the owner afterwards and he said um listen uh i know that it's tough setting up a food
truck he's doing he's gone massive on tiktok right he's huge like like apparently as soon as he
reviews a restaurant gives it a positive review they have cues out like it's life-changing what we all you know certainly temporarily
business changing you get a review from keefly right so he goes and goes up to the owner this
is this so the son had put up a video saying keefly i've heard you in the area in texas please
can you come to visit my mum's food truck so he does does it. He goes up to her afterwards and he says,
I really want to support your business.
I'm giving you a $4,000 tip, right?
I want you to, I'd love you to give $1,000 to the barber. I'd love you to give $1,000 to the person braiding hair
just to let them do the haircuts for free
for the rest of the day.
And I'm giving you, you know, $2,000 goes to you so that you can do food for free. Give some people food for free for the rest of the day and uh i'm giving you two you know two thousand dollars goes to you so that you you can do food for free give some people food for free for the rest of the day
just want to support whatever right yeah so it's a nice thing of him to do right anyway this woman
keeps the money right so she doesn't distribute she doesn't distribute the money right that
somehow becomes public knowledge right and so i think maybe the barber
goes public or whatever i've done a deep dive i mean it's mental right so so then it becomes public
knowledge she said she cut she the one does a video saying that barber didn't do any free haircuts
after that keithley wasn't clear on what he wanted the money to go to. So that's why they haven't got the money.
Keith Lee does a response video.
This is so TikTok.
Keith Lee does a response video saying,
I was pretty clear on where I wanted the money.
And there's a video clip of him saying,
give them $1,000 to the barber.
I want some money to go to, you know,
but he couldn't, he didn't have the cash.
So he said, charge it on your card,
like charge my card for it and then give the money afterwards.
So then the mum puts up a statement going,
I don't think I did it wrong.
Keith Lee says, I did ask you to distribute the money like that.
Then she does another video, and her son does an apology video,
and says, OK, we realise you've done something wrong.
If the barber comes back, we'll give you the money. You know, please come and get the money.
We realise that that's what Keith Lee meant.
Anyway, that food truck has been boycotted and now if you look online it's closed it's closed town i mean i i
what the fuck is going on man that's insane i just can't like i was sort of thinking about it
but that is also it's a show of greed though though, isn't it? If he has explained, and I don't know Keith Lee,
never watched him, if you love him and like him,
you vouch for him, then, of course, I'd...
Well, I think there's so much mad stuff going on there.
First of all, that they kept the money.
I don't like to overly judge, because, say, for example,
you've made no money, you're fucking broke, right?
And somebody gives you four thousand dollars i know the right thing to do is to distribute that money but that you know say i don't know you say you're four thousand dollars away from like losing
your house or something you know i don't know we don't know their circumstances so whatever whatever
like you know it wasn't the right thing to do now, if it is true that they've basically had to close down,
this kid who basically put out a video to say,
please, can you visit my mum's food truck?
I say kid, he's like probably...
Yeah, but then Keith had obviously enjoyed it enough
to give them that kind of tip.
So if they just...
Yeah, man, what a...
I do find TikTok, like, I find it insane
because I spend too long
on it now.
I'm literally,
and do you know,
this is the other thing
that I've noticed people
doing,
right?
We're now going into
a deep dive TikTok.
We need to do emails
just quickly.
Like,
this is so dark
and so bleak.
I saw a video of a guy
the other day
who's just split up
with his wife
and he's doing a whole
thing about,
I can't go on anymore.
And it's like a real
cry for help.
It's really hard to watch
it's like
what the fuck
like
it's not the guy
we've talked about before
this is just another
guy
that had 83 views
I reached out to that guy
by the way
I just checked in on him
yeah good good
yeah yeah yeah
and but
this guy
I'm like
I did the same with this guy
I watched his video
I was like
man look
this is horrible
what you're going through
but have you got no one else to talk to because this feels like I watched his video. I was like, man, look, this is horrible what you're going through,
but have you got no one else to talk to?
Because this feels like a really sort of desperate plea that I don't know if you're going to get the right...
Like, when I look through the responses, they're not sympathetic.
There's a couple of empathetic ones, but they're quite...
On social media, you're always going to get somebody that goes,
ha-ha, you know, like, fucking...
If you're going to kill yourself, do it quickly or whatever.
Do you know what I mean?
Like,
you're always going to get shit like that,
man.
It's like,
yeah,
I find it quite sort of sad actually.
Anyway,
we've really fucking brought the mood down.
Anyway,
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Some light-hearted emails.
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Okay, what do you want to do? Do you want to go into non-film pitches?
Yeah, let's do a nice email.
Sweet email.
Hi, Wolf and Al.
First, your podcast has helped me through so much
through the weeks.
You're both my therapy.
Me and my wife love our lifestyle
and have travelled around the South
where we live to watch a lot over the last few years.
We've seen Tom in Bournemouth and Rom in Yeovil,
and I gave Rom a fix-up tea.
Both were amazing.
These are the best stand-ups we've ever watched.
All right.
Want to ask if you or your children have cut your own hair.
My daughter is nine years old,
had a meltdown over iPads off time,
and then refused to go to bed.
Eventually did go upstairs, and three minutes later, Dan,
with a Lloyd Christmas from Dumb and Dumber she and us were mortified she now has to
wear three hair clips to hold down what fringe is left have you had any DIY haircuts so sorry
they she cut her own hair is that what we're getting from this yeah i've got no doubt in my mind like that at some point
grace will attempt this she's that's very much in her locker she's uh yeah she's already drawn
all over the house it's like yeah it's like living there our kids have never cut their own hair what
i would say is during lockdown um we cut their hair and that was a traumatic
experience for everyone involved I would say
do you know what I mean because
when you cut your own beard in lockdown it would look beautiful
yeah well
I've had some bad
self haircut incidents
I once
I once
I used to have
really long hair like
proper light out here which I'm hoping to achieve once again for the benefit of this podcast.
I explained to somebody the other day that I was growing my hair,
and she said, what for?
I said, that's what I said, I talked about it on the podcast.
She said, so for a podcast, you're growing your hair.
I said, yeah, it doesn't make sense.
Anyway, once I braided my hair.
You sounded really sexy, by the way, for a minute.
Did I?
You went for a podcast? Yeah. I'm braiding my hair. You sounded really sexy by the way for a minute. Did I? You went for a podcast.
Yeah.
I'm braiding my hair.
You literally lost
the actual owl voice
and became like
the new impression.
If you could carry that voice
on this would be
the new impression.
If I carry on doing that voice
maybe that's the just
Romesh has just woken up voice.
Maybe.
No, this would be
the new impression of you.
Hello.
Welcome to the Wolf and Owl. I'm Romesh Ranganathan. How are you doing this would be the new impression of you. Hello, welcome to
The Wolf and Owl.
I'm Romesh Ranganathan.
How you doing, right?
I'm the owl.
I'd like to introduce you
to my friend,
The Wolf.
Okay, so in this world
you're doing the podcast
with Pete Wicks.
That's such a fucking
weird reference.
Shout out Pete Wicks.
Shout out Pete Wicks.
I love that guy. But that's kind of what his voice is out Pete Wicks shout out Pete Wicks I love that guy
but that's kind of
what his voice is like
um okay
yeah Pete Wicks
has got a cool
Pete Wicks is fucking cool
right
he's a guy
who could cut his own hair
I don't want a fan boy
in this way
I think he seems
like a nice bloke
he's just
he's just such
an incredibly
good looking cool guy
it's just like
yeah
he was too cool for TOW.
You know when people say...
When I used to watch him at TOW,
I used to go,
what is he doing here?
He's so cool.
I think, you know,
you know when you're a kid and you go,
I wonder what superpower I'd want.
And you sort of go,
it'd be cool to be invisible.
You could achieve that power
by somebody like you and I
standing next to Pete Wicks.
That would...
Cool tattoos, lovely hair.
He's someone who's never cut his own hair and if he has he's done it well
so go on you braided your hair i just braided my hair like little short braids like that you
know i just did the whole thing the whole oh what did you have the one the pop-up like the
little pop-up and then and then it took ages for me to pull them out it was uh it's one of these
and also this is the other thing i did that you you'll fucking love this. You will love this.
I once became obsessed with, like, facial hair designs.
And, like, I had a little goatee, like, 90s R&B beard.
This is when I was working at Sunglass Art.
And I got a ruler, and I used to, like... Oh, God, it's so bad.
I used to, like, get a Sharpie
and, like, colour in zigzags across my face wow and then i would get a
razor and shave the hair into like so i'd have like a lightning bolt of like facial hair going
across my face oh my god i don't even think i'd seen anyone ever do it but i just started doing
it myself and i thought i'd i this is this is how i know it was shit right is I used to do it
it'd take fucking ages
right
I'd look at it and go
oh my god
you fucking nailed that lightning bolt
and then I'd go into work
and nobody would comment on it
right
it's such a big look as well
yeah
and that's how you know
that people are going
obviously they've seen it
and they're going
I can't even say
you know
what am I supposed to say
nice lightning bolt
so that's basically when people are going to the stock room and laughing
yeah basically it's like i've gone in with like a you know a piece of dog shit on my head and
nobody knows how to tell me my uh my vibe like this right is uh do you remember undercuts i used
to have really long curtains yeah to almost my jawline.
I remember me and my pals were probably about 13, 14,
watching, I think we were playing the old two-on-two basketball game
on the NES, I think it was.
Yeah.
The original Nintendo.
NBA Jam.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And playing that.
Larry Bird kind of vibes.
And we talked to each other,
all talked to ourselves into getting these undercuts
and sort of, we're doing them ourselves.
And I went right up to the top there.
So I had this really,
I used to think it looked really, really cool.
But it was, yeah, it was so out of shape
and sort of badly cut.
And then I used to wear it as a sort of like,
I used to pull it all back
and then just have like, sort of like,
just completely shaved sort of sides
I think it was like oh, this is the coolest look a man could ever have the worst one though
This is the worst you remember in about 96 when Gazza did the blonde hair.
I tried to do that myself
by getting some
bleach and dyeing my hair in a French, I had a French Corrup, you know, greasy French corrup down the front of my eyes.
And because my hair was so dark, the bleach that I got,
and we were going on a lad's holiday, it just basically went ginger.
Like it couldn't, like it was awful, man.
It's like I basically had this really, like orange hair rather than ginger.
Then I tried to sort of basically say to my mum, like,
can we dye it back and ruin your hair so i had to go on a lads holiday with like this sort of like and
i'd be walking around and sort of like my mates basically sort of would just be like
no like people wouldn't people just reference it like i was like a big ginger guy sort of like i'd
go um have you seen our mate tom and I'd be like what's he look like
oh
I don't know
we're all talking
in northern accents
he's about six foot seven
big ginger lad
and like
it was an insane thing
and then
strawberry blonde
strawberry blonde
and then
I went to
I met a girl
that I sort of like
formed for a bit
and went to meet her
and she was
I think she lived in
Basingstoke or somewhere went to meet her and she was I think she lived in Basingstoke or somewhere
went to meet her afterwards
about eight months later
whatever
like we'd been pen pals
type things
just before phones and stuff
and went to meet her
and obviously then
I had my black hair back
and she just wasn't as into me
yeah
well I had a similar thing happen
where we were going on
a lads holiday
I actually did once
dye my hair I tried once dye my hair.
I tried to dye my hair red, but I didn't realize you had to bleach it first.
So I just wanted to get some.
Red?
Why did you go red?
I can't remember.
I think it was like, can I tell you honestly?
Sometimes the origin stories of this are really embarrassing.
I'd watch Demolition Man.
You know Wesley Snipes had the book?
Yeah, that's acceptable.
So I thought, well, I want something like that. you know wesley snipes had the problem yeah that's that's acceptable so i thought well i want
something like that but i don't want to completely rip off demolition man because i don't want to be
called demolition man for the next few weeks so i went and got some red hair dye like really cheap
stuff and i dyed my hair without bleaching it i thought for some reason i don't know what i thought
the science was but i was going to manage to convert block black to red.
And it made no difference to my hair at all.
But my scalp was almost permanently dyed bright red.
So in between... Did you look like you had a red ridge?
Yeah, in between...
Like a red ridge.
In between the hair, you just saw like,
it had like a red skull cap on or something like that
underneath my hair.
It was so bad.
But once, we were going on a lad's holiday
and one of i noticed that my i didn't have like a full beard like this now i'd like sideburns
and a beard and this is not my lightning bolt face but my i'd sort of shaved them into like
two points all right and then i noticed i remember this is the bepe. Yes, yeah, yeah. So I realised that one of them was...
I was sort of looking side to side.
It was like one of them's lower than the other.
And so I trimmed one to sort of bring it up
and it was slightly higher than the other one.
This is the night before the holiday.
And I went, fuck, I need to take that one up.
So I went over to the other side and took that one up.
I was like, fuck, that's gone a bit higher than the other one.
Anyway, this happened about 10 times.
I ended up with my sideburns finishing here like by my eyebrows i'd taken them up so much
my hair finished like right by my eyes like above my eyes above the level of my eyes right
it looked like i was wearing like a fucking l shape like
kind of head thing so i was doing it one of my mates was staying around the night before because
i i live near gatwick and he wanted to crash around i came downstairs in the bathroom
imagine this happening the night before a fucking lat holiday he looked at me he did not stop
laughing for 20 minutes and and and like he was fucking pissing himself and
now i'm like i've got i've got to go on holiday like this i said you know it's like why did you
what could i just ask what you should have just shaved all your hair off that felt like a rat that
felt like a rat i don't have the skull shape that you do if i go bald yeah your brother looks really
handsome yeah but he's got a different head shape to me he's like my like the force is strong in dinesh the force is not strong in me all right like yeah if this was star wars they'd
be looking at me going well dinesh you could be a jedi but your brother's like he'll just probably
kill himself hello c-3po's new assistant he's he's he's the only he's the only human we've ever met
that's thirstier than c-3po and c-3po is actually fucking mugging him off oh please
please could you leave me alone at least till the sideburns grow back master
i had those pointy sideburns for a bit i would yeah what who is it that we were copying who
had i don't know because you said bepe de marco but the timeline doesn't really work out do you
know what i mean but that is that is the kind of yeah i i remember
like i remember like for one of the like handful of times that on that holiday i say handful of
times handful of times in my life i was actually at a bar in faleraki and like a girl started kind
of dancing in it i was about to say in around me. And I started chatting to her.
And I just, I got so nervous and overexcited.
Because it's so embarrassing.
I got so nervous that a girl was actually chatting to me.
She was really chatting to me.
Like it was really a vibe.
And I started to get excited that a girl was talking to me.
I was like, I can't believe this is happening.
And then at one point, this song came on.
I don't know what, this doesn't sound sad,
but in the context of it, it was really sad.
This next song came on and I just went, I leant over to her and I said, I really love this song.
And she went, what? And I said, I really, really love this song. And she went, she went,
what?
I said,
I really,
really love this song.
And she looked at me and genuinely,
she just turned around and walked away.
It was like,
she suddenly realized what I was.
That seems harsh though.
Well,
I was rocking those weird sideburns.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I guess.
I think it's a combination thing.
She must've just thought this guy's out here as some sort of project.
Do you know what I mean?
I remember, like, I used to go to bars.
I used to be so sort of like,
I used to be good in a day,
like when everyone's laughing around the pool,
and in the evening I had no swag.
Yeah.
And I remember being away,
and it had been the 1998 World Cup,
and, um...
Like, thinking it's sexy you'd be out and there'd be a bar
and it'd be an early evening
and there'd be a kick off
like the fucking France 98 team
or Brazil
and I thought this
because all I was obsessed with was football
and I'd stand there and someone would come over
and chat to me and I'd be like
how you doing you good and it's like yeah it was like
big one tonight
France look incredible they're really like
everyone's talking about R9 but for me
Zidane's probably going to be player of the tournament
what?
all my friends said that they've been here
for a week and you hadn't pulled anyone
yeah yeah yeah
I tell you know
I tell you
Emmanuel Petit's
been a surprise package
for me at this tournament
and it's like
oh I just had
during the day
around the pool
I was great
Tom the number of times
I've said to
girls
blokes
on a night out
in Falaraki
that's not really
what I'm about
coming on this holiday
it's more sort of
just like chilling
with the mates
and absorbing the kind of the atmosphere do you know what I mean one of my
friends said that one of my friends said that you're the only one of the group that's not really
like uh met a girl or chat to a girl yeah yeah that's not really what I'm about I'm not that
I just feel like you know having conversations in this kind of environment isn't really the one
do you know what I mean you don't really get to know somebody so i prefer to sort of like you know maybe tee up uh uh like you know exchanging numbers and maybe
you actually have a vibe back when you're home do you mean you can actually have a proper chat
would you like you know is that something you'd be no i don't think so okay cool
well have a great night it's all about just us having great nights it's not about look it's not
about meeting something it's not about you know that's not what these i feel like a lot of people get that wrong do you know
what i mean it's so true look this is oh god i remember like you know when you go out and like
you're in a small sort of yeah like you know since you strip and like you've been there for five days
so you sort of start seeing the sort of same sort of people around and i sort of talked to this this
girl a few times i was like i really like her she seems like really sort of like a nice person we have a laugh together and it's sort of
like probably the sixth night except that's you know we're there for 10 days whatever and i sort
of started chatting to her and stuff over the time and around the pool i'd sort of been having a bit
of a laugh and this one evening she was like um i'm really really bored like you know this is so
shit in here and i was like yeah, it's not for me.
Like, football's finished.
I was really, should I see Croatia play tomorrow?
Who's this Suka guy?
And she was like, would you be okay to walk me back to my hotel?
And I was like, yeah, of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like, oh, wow.
So we're sort of walking along, we're having a conversation
and sort of, you know, having a bit of a joke with her and sort of, you know of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, wow. So we're sort of walking along, we're having a conversation and sort of having a bit of a joke with them
and sort of doing exactly, you know,
I'm leading, my mates are all about this.
And as we're walking along, you know,
like you sort of get those guys who are just so confident
that I'm not, that I'm so,
so he just jogs up sort of beside us.
You know, he had one of those tattoos that sort of didn't finish around his arm, like a sort of like Celt just jogs up sort of beside us you know he had one of those tattoos
that sort of
didn't finish around his arm
like a sort of like
Celtic thing
that just sort of stopped
comes running over
and he's like
hey man to me
hey big guy
and I'm like
hey hey hey
never met him before
but like sort of like
yeah
and then sort of cuts in
so now he's between
the two of us walking
and then she sort of
knew him a bit
and they start flirting together
and it's quite evident that sort of like,
you know,
she's really quite into him.
Yeah.
And then they're like,
oh yeah,
he's like,
should we just,
yeah,
should we walk down by the beach?
And she's like,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
that'd be nice.
And I'm like,
am I like inviting?
Am I inviting?
And he was like,
he wasn't an arsehole
he was a nice enough guy
yeah he just was very
cool and like
yeah
and she was like
enamoured by him
I was enamoured by him
if I'm honest with you
I was like
oh hopefully I can spend
the rest of the year
I've got three days left here
it'd be cool to hang out
between me and this girl now
so we get down to
by the beach
and like
they just basically
so we get to
by the beach three of us they just basically, so we get to by the beach
and three of us are standing there looking out to sea,
sort of chatting about like where we're all from.
And I sort of look around and they're now sort of kissing.
They're sort of making out.
I just stand there.
I stand there for honestly like,
they're just really sort of into each other
and I'm just
standing next to them
going
yeah I really
yeah I really think
Vieira
is
you know
obviously he's had
a great season
after this year
yeah
oh god
and sort of like
going
of course
it's man in
like in a couple of
hours time
this will be packed with families and yeah and they're sort of like going, of course, it's man in, like in a couple of hours' time, this will be packed with families.
And they're sort of really like, you know.
Honestly, even now I feel sick.
I know that we tell these stories, right?
And obviously you...
I regret starting this because I feel so embarrassed about that.
Yeah, but I know that like, I don't know if Kat listens to these,
but Lisa does listen to them, right? And like like you've got yourself a wonderful wonderful wife and lisa is
everything to me right but sometimes i worry that even though we are very much locked in
and in love that one day she'll listen to this and she'll just go oh my god
but also
I'm annoyed, I know that
yeah, so anyway I stood there for about
five to seven minutes
I guess, like sort of like
you know, making like
neither of them were listening, I'd make idle observations
about sort of like, oh fuck is that an inflatable
out there, like
left an inflatable in the sea, like out there? Like, someone left an inflatable
in the sea,
like, out there.
Yeah,
well,
I think there's a boy,
and I go,
oh, come on.
And in the end,
I just went,
we still need to walk
back to your hotel?
And he went,
no, no, no,
yeah,
it's cool, man,
it's cool.
And I was like,
cool,
and then he sort of
shook my hand,
and she shook my hand
and sort of smiled
and sort of like.
Oh, no.
You got exited.
So I had to go back
to my hotel, and about three hours later, all my mates got exited. I had to go back to my hotel,
and about three hours later, all my mates got in.
And I sort of sat up,
because I didn't want to go back to the bar.
I sat up.
And there weren't, like, hotels now.
There was no TV on it.
So they had left you to it,
thinking that you were going to...
Yeah, because they're like...
In their heads, it's like,
oh, look, you know what?
It's quite sweet.
This girl he's talked about,
and he's really fancied,
and he's sort of really liked.
They seem like they might have got together.
And they all came back,
and was like,
oh,
mate,
how did it go?
And I was like,
oh,
it was really fucking cool.
Like,
we basically walked most of the strip together.
And,
yeah,
I don't know if you remember the guy with the tattoo.
Quite a cool guy.
Yeah,
he basically,
we bumped into him,
and then we walked down to the sea front
um and yeah we just all stood there for a bit it was really nice we just chatted about seeing and
they started kissing um god you told them everything i like no i had to yeah and they
just stood there and they're like what are you doing it's like you can't let anyone know about
this you've got to be sure you should have told us oh yeah go on and then the next day they they were they were
together for the rest of the holidays too but they were sort of quite nice they're quite inclusive
they'd sort of like no both sort of chat and have a laugh with me and he'd sort of then try and make
conversation by going uh fucking hell mate you were right about so cool you're right about that
he's a good player but see that's been a surprise package. I had a thing where...
Here's the thing.
Maybe when you're going out,
this is before it was cool to wear a football shirt out.
Like an AC Milan shirt.
I had a thing where, like, this is not on holiday,
but this is back home,
where I bought one of those Levi's twisted denim suits.
Do you know those? By the way, I had one of those levi's twisted denim suits do you know those
by the way i have one of those they were bagging yeah i don't care what anyone so i had one of
those and i had like some blue lens sunglasses like you know sort of diesel jobs right and i was
um i was like getting a bus somewhere in the day and these two girls like like getting on the bus
and they just kept staring at me right like
properly staring and like look at talk saying something to each other and it's like can i just
ask what were you chewing gum no i wasn't chewing gum but they were like they were like they were
looking at me and like talking to each other and i was like fucking wow this outfit is really doing
something right and then that evening we went out and those girls were where we were
right so i'll say to my mate so those girls they saw me because my mates like i don't know if you
had this the dynamic my friends were it was like like i said it's like like i said last time it's
like 40 year old virgin i mean they're just trying to help me out yeah yeah so so they go to me i
want you to go chat to him won't you go chat to him so we all go they go we me, I want you to go chat to him. I want you to go chat to him. So we all go up. They go, we'll come with you.
Go over.
I said, I noticed you on the bus earlier.
I said, and then they said, oh, you should say you noticed.
And I said, I didn't want to say this, but I said, oh, you know,
I noticed you looking.
And they said, yeah, we were saying that you looked a lot like an Asian
Dane Bowers.
Cool. Cool.
Cool, guys.
Just,
did either of you fancy Dane Bowers?
It must be out of your mind
if you think
I'm not coming home with you tonight.
Were you still wearing a twisted?
No, thank God.
I mean, can you fucking imagine if I was?
Like Marge Simpson
in that episode
of Simpsons
where she's just
changing up the
suit
right well listen
um thank you
for the email
chatty parrot
that was a great
email
um
one email
so I mean
uh right Tom
it's actually now
been we called
this a bonus episode
it's just been as
long as our actual
episode
yeah correct yeah and uh most of it was talking about our tragic past and It's actually now been, we called this a bonus episode. It's just been as long as our actual episode. Yeah, correct.
Yeah.
And,
uh,
most of it was talking about our tragic past and,
uh,
which is always my favorite stuff.
Yeah.
Well,
it's certainly the stuff that I've got the most material on.
Uh,
I would say that,
um,
that's a well that will never dry up.
Uh,
unfortunately,
uh,
Lisa,
I love you,
Jim. I love you. Uh, I guess I'm saying, I love you Jim I
love you
I guess I'm
saying I love
you Jim you
know how I
feel about you
Jim thank you
for that walk
yesterday it's
up there my
top five memories
of things I've
done with
friends yeah
okay well Jim
and Lisa I'm
delivering you the
same message
please don't
leave me
okay guys thank
you so much
we'll catch you
next time on
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