Wolf and Owl - S4 Ep 10: Muay Thai & Bakery Beef

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

There’s a plethora of audio problems and wonky wi-fi on this week’s show - so apologies in advance for that. But amongst all the technical troubles, we’re talking… Tom’s Muay Thai injury, having hectic schedules, a bit of Stormzy schadenfreude, some bakery shop sparring, a Christmas turkey X-Factor, Romesh’s film-set catering, more marathon training and an electrolyte endorsement. Plus, we answer emails about getting undressed to do a poo and problems with the new series of The White Lotus. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Mighty Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What happened? You froze as well. Literally been just chatting with her. We've been chatting for 15 minutes. What's your internet speed currently? Do a speed test now. That is my speed because we haven't this new house I've moved into hasn't got I'm running red hot baby. Yeah, we haven't got those so fast. We haven't got delicious

Wethers is it called copper or whatever the copper? Piping well, what's it called? Piping it's not pipe. I'm gonna tell you that for nothing We haven't got that yet. Lashings and lashings of data. So you haven't got that? No, no. But you moved to like, we were just talking before the thing, you were sort of bragging about how affluent the area is that you live in now. So have they not got copper pipe? Yeah, but they're not um the people around here see Wi-Fi as like sort of distraction

Yeah, I guess I don't know why seem in the area that you're in there The data is brought in on the backs of sort of butlers and stuff is it? You are such a snively little wreck. You love this. I love this version of you. How are you anyway? What's going on? I saw an Instagram story where you...

Actually, it's weird because I... Okay, what are we? Tom, can I just tell you something? We're going to have to start this whole thing again. What? We're not going to have to start this whole thing again. Well, we're gonna start this whole thing again I'm not recording. Oh my god I'm recording. I'm recording on zoom. Yeah, this should be fine. Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah Always like the quick time before

Yeah, okay. All right. All right First of all, don't start getting all like you've never had a fucking technical difficulty. Alright Anyway What we took oh, yeah, so I was I know we were like five minutes in and I'm talking about tick tock But this is thing, you know, these people sell stuff on tick tock shop. The new thing is like a knee Healer. Yeah, like a like, it's like an infrared thing or whatever. Loads of people have been like trying to advertise it. And then I almost bought it for you because then I saw a photo of you with your leg sort

of laid up on the sofa. I don't know whatever the opposite of a thirst trap is. I wanted people to know that I am in pain just so I can get those really nice messages where people say I hope you feel better and stuff like that. I don't necessarily get a lot of empathy indoors. Grace is showing a lot of traits that Catherine does when it comes to sort of injuries and stuff. I mean it's very similar in the sense to your response to, I'm just gonna stop here just because, for some reason my internet is being over there.

How can you hear me? Okay, okay. Yeah, Catherine's response to my injury is very much in keeping with your response to my injury, which was when you asked me how I did it, it was through my tie, which feels at the moment, if I'm honest, I very much enjoy, I've started my tie or restarted my tie.

And yeah, it's not necessarily a sport for a sort of creaking aging man. I'm gonna leave the fact that you said restarted to one side, I haven't even got time for that on this podcast now for your phrasing. All right So how how often have you how many times have you now done my tie in this second phase of your my second phase? I've done About ten sessions. I'm trying to do about two a week at the moment a week

and Why have you decided in your mid to late 40s to get back into what is quite a high impact sport? Do you know what, I was boxing and then I was watching some people in the gym doing the Muay Thai and actually I quite missed the intensity of it and also I was boxing twice a week, I just wanted a bit of a change up so decided that. The ramifications are, I mean, my hips are fucked, my knees are like literally bruised

to fuck and my hips, I haven't got the weather all in my body to be able to sort of twist and kick, twist and kick for what is like an hour session. But I actually, when I'm doing it, enjoy it. And it's, I just, I enjoy doing different things to try and stay healthy, but it is, I don't know, I don't know if my body can actually take what I'm doing. I've got a little bit of the thing where since in the last three weeks I've gone up, I've put on about two kilos in about three weeks through eating shit and not training. That's probably muscle or something, you're my time, you're arse are funny.

I've lost you again. This is back, this feels nice to be back with, this feels nice to be back. This is so back. I want to quickly move up to the top of the house. Right, two secs, I'm just going to move this up to the top of the house. Alright, alright. I'm going to go and move to the other side. Alright, let's see my floor. Two secs, maybe two secs. Do you want to do it while we're walking through the house or?

Yeah, sure. So, it's good to have a look.. So Tom is now walking me through the house. Is it possible to just talk me through what I'm seeing? So we're just getting upstairs here. Oh god, that beautiful sunlight coming through. Already it's better. Oh look at this! This that oh the the banisters and the railings I've lost you know right here we go we're gonna get right to the top of the house and sit right where the river is completely lost Tom I've completely lost Tom yeah he's sort of back in right I'm hiking the room sounding a little bit like he's been in an accident. Just testing my speed again.

Because otherwise I'd have made a man go upstairs for no reason. Still frozen. Well, I can't see you and you sound... Oh yeah, he's back in the room. How's this? You out of breath? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

How's the mic? Is the mic all right there? How's this? Yeah, that's good. Um, you, um, you, uh, you sort of dropped out and then now you've come back on and you're out of breath. So how many flights of stairs is it in your house? It's just two flights, but it's a, like, I'm also, I'm not sure.

Yeah. So you've got three floors. Yeah. You've got what? Four floors in yours, right? No, we don't. We've got, there's a downstairs and an upstairs in my house as well, you know

We didn't get a full tour when we went to around your house. That's the thing that we difficult it's difficult because You you couldn't really be taken away from the biscuit Any real amount I am literally up in the game for when you come around. I've got so many things planned, food-wise. I'm very excited, man. Just let me know when you're ready. So, yeah, I've put on a couple of kilogrammes, which I do think is...

Yeah, so now I'm pushing myself this week to eat better, feel better about myself. So yeah, but then the Mai Tai on the Monday has put me in a bit of a... Have you thought about doing it once a week? It's just, I'm just sort of, I just want to just, if you don't mind me intervening a little bit in your life, okay? All right. You're constantly, constantly, not necessarily on this podcast podcast but on text messages telling me how busy you are Yeah, and like how life is an absolute struggle then you know a couple of weeks ago

You go I've got to go after I've got to do the podcast by this time I then see an Instagram from you on the golf course right later on that day That's what you had to finish the poker which is fine, right? so now so so by the way golf golf, by the way, something that I, I currently, I can't justify spending my time doing. Right. Yeah. So you, so now you're playing golf regularly.

No, no, no, no. I've not played golf since that day. I haven't been able to get out. And you're doing Mai Tai twice a week. Yeah. And you're one of the busiest people in the industry. So my question to you is, why is Kat still there? Because weekends, I'm all about family, baby.

Weekends and evenings. Right, right, OK. Yeah, I always get home every day for, even if I'm gigging, I'll come back home and then go back out for Gracie's bedtime. You were in Cardiff the other night, right? Yeah, Saturday night, Cardiff. Make the world show. I love the Welsh. Weekend evening, isn't it? Saturday night. Yeah, but still the bedtime baby. You do bedtime. Grace got stuck to

three. We put down our left and then make sure Friday Sunday night being Catholic. Fucking hell. Why am I listening to you say this this is a log as you've been in the country for about a year I'm amazed that you let me do it to feel fucking bad then realize that you were the fucking mentor that I've been fucking following your fucking insanity yeah you're are you in you you know the country for quite a while. No, I'm going to India on Saturday But I'm what gig you know filming filming with Rob By the way, I thought the thing yesterday about giraffes and I've got a load of people saying is that a dig at Rob Beckett

I'm like it took me ages to realize what was the link and then his shows's called Giraffe. The idea that I'd spend like ages wording a thing to sort of subtly have a dig at someone I adore is quite a stupid fucking, it's insane, isn't it, Instagram? Yeah, but I mean, people don't, yeah, people constantly looking for like little connections with shit, aren't they, do you know what I mean? Yeah.

So that's why Stormzy's coming under it right now. But- Oh man, Chip. I don't know. Yeah, so that's why storms. He's coming under it right now, but um man chip Went in my friend. What do you make of all that as a like you? Yeah, you're you're the you know that world that sort of you know, why do you do? No, but you do you know more about it Like I didn't realize by the way There was so much what it feels a little bit like is from the outside I like that music and I know a couple of the guys around like you do but it does feel a little bit like

There's Peter certain people have been waiting for an opportunity just to go to put it in on storms. They definitely definitely I mean, but that's not that's not particular to storms. I just think anybody Not anybody that's got as big as that like storms is like Storms he's gone above and beyond like what anybody would have expected from a grime artist, right? so now obviously people are like well There is some like it's bit it's it's there's a bit of schadenfreude You know what I mean in terms terms of seeing somebody like that? You have to explain what you mean by Schadenfreude.

You know, like, Schadenfreude is like when... I don't even think I'm pronouncing it correctly, so I've said it all intellectually. It's a German word, but it means it's basically... It's when you take pleasure in somebody else's misfortune. Essentially, that's what it means. It's a good word, isn't it? Do you think... It's a great word. Do you think that because of his success and because some of the stuff that Chipmunk was saying, I was looking at it on Twitter last night, and it does make

you just like, there's some stuff that obviously he's gone in on the McDonald's thing and a couple of other stuff, but then the other stuff is he just feels like it's just he's literally been writing these and sort of like just getting ready just to go all in and just fucking yeah well i don't know like chip like he um like he did all those sort of i guess pop tunes didn't they do you know what i mean yeah you can't and so people sort of thought he was like uh not a novel yet but they thought he was like a mainstream artist which he was for a bit but the guy's like an amazing rapper like if you listen to like it's unbelievable like listen to all of his like freestyles and shit like that so like I feel like he's

one of the best do you mean but because he did like these are pop hits I think people sort of thought that but he's said it a way of like, everything just... Say for example, obviously another someone else who said some pretty outlandish stuff, but Wiley, right? Is, I shot a couple things with Wiley way back. Did you? Ages ago.

Yeah, yeah. And found him quite a fascinating guy to be around, quite enjoyed his, obviously he subsequently again said some pretty fucking horrible things and awful things, but for me, that was like- It was weird for you to feel like to hear him repeating stuff that you just said to him in the chat and then- It was like he got inside of my mind and yeah.

You're such a little prick. But he, because he was like the king of it, right? I'm talking for 10 years ago, like doing grime and he was like within that grime circuit. And then it's gone so mainstream. But also, I'm a little bit like, it's a world in which necessarily don't want it to be too mainstream. Do you know what I mean? You want them to, I suppose a bit like hip-hop in America, you don't want it to be too squeaky clean in a sense. Because there's a distance between that and what is pop stardom.

Yes, yeah, I know. I agree. I feel like, if you go mainstream, super mainstream, then you sort of have to hope that it works. Do you know what I mean? Like if you roll the dice on going, this is what I imagine, if you roll the dice on getting really, really big,

by changing your sound a bit, you have to really hope that it works. But then if it doesn't work, it's a really difficult road back. Do you know what I mean? As we found when we did Judge Ramesh, you know, it was No, but also still see I want to look at stormsy stuff and say that it's not I'm a massive fan I think he's incredible. But I like I don't I wouldn't listen to it. So this doesn't feel like it

Was talking more about shit, but I mean storms is like I think storms is always gonna be look I was talking more about shit, but I mean Stormzy is like, I think Stormzy is always gonna be, look, Stormzy is like under the cosh and I do think that some people will like that, not like that, you know, it's just like, it's not even though like that, it's like it's a bigger thing to bring down, you know what I mean? It's like if, if that... Sorry man, in that world though as well, like that, because you know as well, in a way it helps Stormzy because his next album, his next track, he can just come in and just fucking go in on everyone who's fucking had it with him. In comedy we don't have that, do we? It's so like, because there's probably as much animosity in comedy within mainstream

or whatever as there is in anything else, but no one really ever says anything about anyone. No, but I do think that there's certain people that are, I do think there's certain people that are considered like, more credible than others, right? Yeah, of course. Yeah. But would you ever start like a slagging match if you sort of like went in on, I don't know, like I suppose McIntire would be the most mainstream person

in our industry, right? Well, look, let's be absolutely honest. There are comedians that we are not into, not fans of. Yeah, of course. But I think the rule is, is that you don't, in comedy I think there's a bit of a thing where you don't slag off other comedians, even if you don't agree with what they've done,

do you know what I mean? Like, if they've done something really like off key, then I think that's fair enough. But like I've got a personal role. I never really want to talk about I Never really want to talk about comedians. I don't really want to talk negatively about them to burn So I think it's like almost like an honor amongst dickheads. Do you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah It's it's just I just find it strange that but then there's also a world where you have people got an eye on Just like the next their next track or their next whatever. Oh, but I mean I do think I do think Like people are doing it for it's like clout chasing, isn't it?

I mean like if you if you have a go at storms you or anybody anybody big and it got in it like does well Then it's massive isn't it? It works in music and it works in any fight, in boxing, UFC. If you were to do it in a normal job, say you worked in a cake shop, and there's another... like if you worked at Wenzel's and then there's Gregg's down the road and you started putting out fucking shit about someone who works in Gregg's, start just going, Oh fucking and Scott B. O. and fucking brown teeth. All right. And then, like, because it was the best that

fucking making sausage, sausage rolls or whatever, like fucking smashed yum yums, right? Or even like where you're at with Coughlin's right. So if you started now, actually, it's not bad idea this, like you've basically sat at Coughlin's were like, Oh, fucking fucking hold up how do I get more fucking clout just got you or basically Coughlin's is a version of chipmunk right your chip in a sense right and Greg's is basically Stormzy Wenzel's is probably... I think you need to be really really careful here who you compare to who here right because you're really flirting very closely with being issued a cease and desist from Gregg's

to Baker's. I'm just telling you, we're just sort of attaching names to people that have done stuff. Well, okay, what I'm saying is that I'm talking about mainstream fucking big, like Gregg's is your biggest competitor at Coughlin's is what I'm saying, right? Yeah, if you basically now issued some tweets going in on like some in on Gregg's right That's gonna get you some clout at Coughlin's. It's not a bad fucking marketing tool for you It was so weird that you said this because this is actually happening what you're talking about. What so like basically should

Coughlin's have had like being contacted by by like pressing stuff like that. Because some customers have like posted on their thing, this is better than Greg's. And now the press are going, do you think that you're better than Greg's? And like Sean's been contacted going, do you think you're better than Greg? Sean's going, no, I'm not. This is nothing to do with me. This is something like, I've not come out. And you know, I'm not like, he's got own that moment

No, he's been putting the ring. It's right mate. He is basically fucking These he's in the ring now with greats. He's got a fucking take a shot. No, that's not I don't know That's how you but Rachel's got a big marketing team, but he's got you and me. It's not what you is Hey, mate, I'm here for you and fucking Sean every time I talk about Tell you so Sean save my fucking life a couple years ago my brother-in-law came around we didn't have any fuck he was a vegan at the time vegetarian vegan you've had vegans at your house if you marry my sister you'd have been around their fucking multiple times yeah well I wasn't for the want to try and by the way,

but my point is, right? I literally was fucking I was like, I don't know what to do. All right, Sean steps in. He gives me an array of beautiful life in vegan Wellington things. Beautiful. The whole family adored them. Yeah, save my life. People still talk about it in the family. All right, that's what I owe Sean Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen Can I just I know? that you're a Lot of your hobbies. I know a new hobby of yours is my tie, but an ongoing hobby of yours has been overstatement

Well, Sean Coughlin saved your life, right? Let me just let me just I just want to get into this a little bit, right? If somebody goes, oh he's, but you didn't, it's not even what you said, it's the way you said it, right? If you go, I love Sean, he saved my life one Christmas because he brought around a letter of Wellington. You didn't say that, okay? What you went was, yeah, I adore that man. He saved my life. Absolutely saved my life. I'd be dead if it wasn't for Sean Coughlin. And then I started thinking, fucking hell, what happened?

Are we choking on a doughnut to give you the Heimlich in like the Godstone branch? But what's happened is he's brought around some Wellingtons because you didn't have the foresight to get some food in for your vegan brother. What happened? Like I was literally at a loss, right? There was nothing I could find at that time that would be as delicious and as gorgeous. When did you look? When did you look?

Iceland. When? When? Oh, when? Oh, this is like four or five days before Christmas. Okay, and you couldn't find anything vegan or vegetarian four or five days before Christmas? Not the quality that would match.

Look, mate, you know this is a vegan, right? I did not want more than anything on Christmas Day, my poor brother-in-law, alas, to be sat there, while we're all creaming and smashing turkey and like gammon into our mouths and the little sausages in bacon, pigs in blankets, right? And he's there with a blooming half of like shrub of cauliflower.

Did you have, sorry Tom, did you have a two-meat Christmas? Yeah, we'll always have a bit of gammon and a bit of turkey, we'll all have a bit of gammon and a bit of turkey. Fucking hell, you have changed, haven't you? No, no, no, no. Mate, this is... You've got everyone has a bit of gammon and a bit of turkey. Right. With the Fizz loyalty program, you get rewarded just for having a mobile plan.

You know, for texting and stuff. And if you're not getting rewards like extra data and dollars off with your mobile plan you're not with Fizz switch today conditions apply details at Fizz.ca do you ever do that one where they stuff an animal inside it like was it a waste of time it's a way and it's also I think it's perverted which I think is pushing together like human caterpillar it's like the things in there there's a little tight that the only thing you've got right is if you're if you're an animal who's given up its life right and I know that obviously you're well against it as a

vegan right but if you're like a turkey or whatever they call like a poisson the little chicken things you give it the only dignity that you get the only dignity you've got in all of this right or quail right is the fact that you sit at the center of the table on Christmas day or whatever and you've got your that's your moment, right? That's you've won the X factor, right? That's you sitting in the center of the table. For everyone to see. Can I just stop you before you continue?

If you're just stuffed inside another bird. Your X factor is your dead body being served to some people on Christmas Day, is that what you're saying? That's the high point of your life. No, but as dead goes, right? And then people go, people take one of your bones and they go do you want to tug on this and whoever gets a bigger bit of bone? From your body gets their wish Is that yeah legit? That's the yes

There's a certain air there right of right that well, you know, that's the dust what I was that's that's what I was working towards I guess in a sense, right? Fucking hell. I mean, it's so much that you have to accept, so much bullshit I just have to accept as your logic. Okay, go on. So that's your moment, right? Right.

You do not want to be sitting there with other birds stuffed inside you and woe betide you, one of the tiny little birds that's stuffed right in the middle who literally no one even gets to. It's like, I just feel it's not cool man. Also you'd sat then but and they're really hard to cook all the way through that's another thing right. Now we're back into the world of reality. It took a little fucking, had a little wander around Narnia with Tom's fucking moment of glory for a turkey being eaten on Christmas Day and then sort of implying that the whole birds are stuffed inside each other alive. But anyway, go on.

But then when you actually, you're sitting there and you don't even know which bird you're eating. It's just, yeah, the whole thing's just odd. Okay. Anyway, back to you and Sean, right? What my point is, is this could be your moment. I didn't realise that this beef with Greg's was getting fucking like it is, right this could be your moment. I didn't realise that this beef with Greggs was getting fucking like it is, right? There's no beef. You've got to go in there.

Man, Greggs by the way, the other day, they completely fucked, they sent a Greggs truck to a film set I saw with Kiefer Sutherland and people, right? You've got to fucking match that up. I could have a word with the people on the film I'm on now, send them a coffin truck. You can have a word with them to accept a free truck of food. Well, it has to be a fucking well connected. Oh, you should

be on there serving. And I do some of your way. You can do some of your way little lines and stuff. You could you could be there like everyone go fucking hell rubbish, Ranganathan is on the trap. Sorry, if I come to you, sorry, let me just you're in a film, right? Okay, right Somebody that's in the same industry turns up on set who could have potentially Audition for like one of these spots didn't even get offered an audition by the way And then he rocks up on a fucking bakery van right no disrespect to bakery do you not think in terms of the fact that it's a bit it's a bit weird

isn't it then Kiefer Sutherland or not Kiefer Sutherland but whoever's like comes up and goes oh Ramesh Ranganathan yeah so they all love you man they all like they all fucking love you they would lose their minds because you could do some of your funny stuff Tom can I tell you what? It would be funny for about 30 seconds right? Like when I first arrive it'd be like oh wow Ramesh and then after that it becomes a bit sad. You know how it will remind me of, do you know that film The Beach, Leonardo DiCaprio? You know when that guy really injures his leg and they end up putting him outside? Oh.

Yeah. Yeah. I'd be the equivalent of that on set. Do you know what I mean? Also. And then what'll happen is, late on in the day, you'll come over and you go, how's it going, mate? And I go, yeah, yeah, pretty good.

Got a lot of yum-yums out. People seem to be really enjoying the bakers. Couple of people sort of agreed that it's better than Gregg's And you go, well you know, I think we've got, you probably like giving out as much food as you're willing to give out. No, it's absolutely fine. Happy to cater for the entirety of the day, Tom, as per your request. And you go, actually, some of the cast have been saying like, your request. Actually some of the cast have been saying like it's a bit distracting sometimes like when they're doing scenes and stuff they're gonna be sort of cackling in the background or talking about how you would have delivered

a line differently or whatever and then like apparently they were doing sort of a quite emotional scene and they heard you really sort of shouting about the Apple crumble doughnuts. Well it's just I can't help it if I'm enthusiastic. You said that they thought I was a bit of a legend around here. I guess what I'm saying is, did you think you could pack up and go? No, I wouldn't fucking do that.

I'd probably get someone else to go over and say that. And then I'd go. But I think that doing something like that... Sorry, I don't think Tom would authorise this, actually. Can I hear it from him himself? Because I don't believe he'd ever allow his friend to be treated like... I don't think he'd ever allow a friend of his. And also podcast co-host, by the way,

which I've been assured that all of you listen to and enjoy, I'm pretty sure he would never allow me to be treated like it's okay Oh frig it, oh frig it, someone's left to charge down on the Coughlands fan Look my point is you've now you're in a situation mate you're on the rise at Coughlands people are, it's clear that people are talking about it right you've got to make hay where the sun shines, make pasties while the sun shines, my friend. They are the most delicious fucking assortment of pastry goods.

I don't think getting into it on go. I like Gregg's. Gregg's are great. Yeah, so why would you get into beef with Gregg's? Doesn't make any sense. Look, Chip likes Stormzy. Fucking they all like each other. The fact is, mate, Chip's seen a moment

where he can fucking get people talking about him again. You are now, you're on the precipice of greatness mate this baker game right look at wenzel even wenzel's were sleeping on fucking greg's no way wenzel's went in bruv you're at that that point now mate you are literally by the way uh also one of that donut place that you're involved in he's fucking pushing the donuts he's smashing them bringing a little he bringing a tray of doughnuts One of the gigs I do You're literally by the way as someone is really fit doing loads of running You're very much invested within the world of sort of pastries and dough snacks. Yeah

Also by the way enjoying the electrolytes God yes, Tom Yeah. Also, by the way, enjoy any electrolytes? Oh, God. Yes, Tom Mandrill protein sent me some electrolytes and they were... You wanted me to post? I forgot to post, actually. Yeah, I know, yeah. The Waterman electrolytes are delicious, by the way. And he had a little thing with the little scoops in the box rather than in the bottle, which is good.

I like that. Yeah, so you've even got a fork, get your fingers in there and fork around. And how do you look like it's there? Did you write the script in the little note? That was actually Stan. Stan did that. Well, Stan was very funny, I thought. How is the marathon training going?

Better? You feeling good? Oh, well on Sunday,, this is quite good. So on Saturday, I went to watch a friend of mine and his band, You, Me at Six, are doing their last ever tour because they're splitting up. So I went to Nottingham and watched them. And then I got back at three o'clock in the morning, Tom. Did you go with Lisa?

No. Oh, well, there we go. Fucking making me feel bad. What do you mean? Oh, you're making me feel bad about going and doing a gig. She asked me to leave for an evening. Did she? No. You had been at home all day Friday with your sickness bug. Anyway, so I went to the gig, got back at three in the morning and then the next day I ran 17 kilometers Wow fuck. Felt great couldn't believe it I was expecting to be like I found guessing well no no no on the actual run is like normally fine because like you

can just go however slowly you want right but like it was afterwards so afterwards I normally get hit by a truck but I didn't get hit by a truck this week I think I like do you know what? Do you know what the main difference is? the electrolytes Mate they are proven To push your how they perform it spy Just before you proved it. You fuck. Okay, just right there. Okay, but the way you said there it's proven it was You realize then that I was straying into a place where it

could be a legal ramification yeah well against myself and my tiny little business that I'm trying to build so yeah no but yeah we can put that we can put that on the jars now yeah Ramesh Ranganathan it is enhanced my athletic ability tenfold. It's not enhanced it tenfold no that I wouldn't accept that as a quote. What would you say to quote? I go like yeah, you know Good Running better feeling better doing better Romesh Ranganathan. I don't know who's gonna believe that nobody's gonna believe that

Romesh Ranganathan marathon marathon the marathon man How about this? I'm gonna give you this quote and you can put it on the tubs. Okay? Okay. All right. Ramesh Ranganathan says, better than not taking electrolytes. Fucking hell! This is what I'm talking about. This is what you need me in on. What do you mean? That's not big and sexy, is it? Better than not taking electrolytes. That's like just turning around going, oh, diarrhea, well, it's better than being constipated. Well, it's not, is it? Sorry, I'd rather be constipated than have diarrhea. If we want to get into that

debate how is having diarrhea better than being constipated? Mate I'd sooner have it out than in. That's what I always say, better out than in. Out with an element of control you just wander around shitting yourself and go thank god I'm not shitting. That would be much worse. No I've got to shit in a toilet. What? I mean have you ever had serious constipation where it's been four days in you've not taken a poo? Yeah every time I've got a holiday I don't shit for the first four days of any holiday. Yeah but alright then you enjoy being constipated. No I don't enjoy it. Did I say enjoy it?

Where did you hear me say enjoy it? Did I go oh fuck it. By the way you're talking more, what's sad if you're talking more funnily about being constipated than you are about the electrolytes. I don't like being constipated. Or about Coughlin's. I don't like being, listen, Coughlin's is great, the electrolytes are great. I'll tell you what, if anyone wants a fucking quote,

you talk about, go speak to someone. I'm saying, listen, I'm saying being constipated is better than diarrhea, which also, your electrolytes are better than diarrhea and Coughlin's is better than diarrhea, so there you go. Yeah. It's the full house. I'll take that as a quote. Yeah, fine. Better than being constipated. The electrolytes better than diarrhea. I know better than diarrhea. Romesh regular. Better than being constipated. Romesh regular. Yeah. Electrolytes better than diarrhea. Yeah,

you can put that on there. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to let you push that. Right. Should we do some emails, Tom? Let's do some emails. It feels like we've dropped off the email game, so we should do a couple. Yeah. Okay. This is from the confused cranes. Dear Wolf, Owl and Swan, first and foremost, thank you for being the two sweet souls that you are and regularly making me laugh out loud each week. You're the best.

No, you're the best, confused cranes. Now to the matter at hand. A few months ago, after a drink or two, my housemate mentioned that he likes to take clothes off poos, which is exactly how it sounds. The said friend walks into the bathroom under a cloud of innocence, then proceeds to de-robe to complete nudity for his shit. I can understand the concept, a deeper sense of relaxation, a sense of oneness with the toilet.

I can't put my own bathroom pre-shower, I myself have been known to close off poo. However, my housemate has been known to get his kit off at work at restaurants and most recently at Heathrow Airport. For me, this is genuinely odd. But another of our close friends has overheard our debate and aggressively sided with my housemate as a pro close off pooer. This revelation is there to be conducted some research which I've to do seen this means seems to be a male only activity Well surprised fucking surprised in fact every girl I've spoken to about this is baffled by the concept Suggesting this guilty pleasure has been gate kept by the male population perhaps for generations Amongst my male for this is on this can't be true amongstst my male friends there seems to be a 50-50 split.

No way, no way. With half passionately defending it as natural and feels right, with the other simile taken aback as myself, describing the activity as weird and vulnerable. These results have left me lost as to whether I'm a prude on the wrong side of shitting history, or valid in feeling uncomfortable with this nearly gay knowledge. I would love to hear both your thoughts.

Perhaps you can speak some sense to my friends or if you both fell onto the side of clothes off pooing I'll rethink my ways and maybe get trained to Heathrow just to take a COP. So team COP or not and thank you for always doing you. That's from the confused cranes. Wow. Okay, what do you think? I mean, I've got to say that I don't think I know one person who's ever admitted to taking a fall

I know somebody I know one person who takes his top off when he goes for a poo Mm-hmm. I don't know anyone who takes all of their clothes off wherever they look I mean, I do think they're saying quite nice about being completely naked before we jump in the shower and having a plop, right? Yeah, I've done that everyone's done that. Yeah Yeah, yeah in the in this that means to any of your own home I find that that's quite a nice thing to do. But the idea of going to, if you're in a pub and you need to take a dump, right?

And going in there and taking all your clothes off just feels insane. That's, I actually don't believe it. What if there's a fire? What if there's a fire? Yeah. Well, you get dressed, don't you? Just taking your shoes off is,

shoes and socks, your shoes and socks right that's just... you're literally done for. I mean I've got to be honest with you, first of all as we all know as I've talked about numerous times I've got a phobia of shitting publicly or you know a real issue with it. Even if I was to do that I want as little of my skin making contact with those surfaces as I possibly can manage. If there were any of your butt tubes. Yeah, but even then if there was some sort of arse condom I could use, I would use that, right? Mate, there is. That's what those little things, put toilet paper around the toilet seat. Yeah, the little seat. No, okay, I'm not having that.

You should carry those in your little, like, in your man pack. No, because then suddenly somebody goes, oh, where's your wallet? And then I pull it out and and then a whole roll of toilet seat covers comes out, and they go, oh, you're a fucking psychopath. Cool. Again, it's a conversation starter for you. I don't need that as a conversation starter. When you're at the Brits, right?

You're at the Brits, right? And you're sitting between Sam Ryder and fucking Charlie XCX, right? Sam Ryder and Charlie XC know, Charlie XCX, right? Sam Ryder and Charlie XCX are talking about music and stuff. You're in the middle and you're like, oh, fucking hell, I don't know how to get involved in this conversation, but not to make it feel forced. And then you're like, oh, I need a poo-poo.

And then you pull out your man bag, right? And as you pull it out, like three of your Soilette condoms fall out. Sam Ryder's like, oh man, what are those, bro? And you're like, ah, and then Charlie XCX is like, are they toilet jollies? You've got a conversation mate. Well, how does that conversation continue? Yes, they are. And then Sam goes, and then Sam goes to Charlie, should we head over there? And then just sat on my own. sat on my own. Well at least I had a little bit of a chat before I left. You go to the toilet and be sat on your own anyway. My point is right. Yeah come back Sam and Charlie have gone. I know Sam Ryder. Sam Ryder's a good guy. Sam Ryder would go hey great man why do you

why do you carry those? And then about three four four hours later, I'm just on my own at one of the after parties, somebody comes over, Chip comes over, you all right Ramesh? Oh shit, oh shit he knows who I am. Oh yeah, just a quick one, have you got a bag of toilet jollies on you? Everyone's talking about it. Number one, that shows that you're quite arrogant

and the fact you think everyone's gonna be talking, it'll probably be a sort of thing going, oh God, it's quite embarrassing for Rob actually, sort of, over in the toilet. Listen, I'll accept some things I've said in the past being arrogant. The idea that I'm arrogant because I suggested a lot of people will be talking about the bag of toilet

johnnies I've taken to the Brits, I don't think it's the biggest display of arrogance that anyone's ever put on, is it? Oh, I love you, Ron. I've got cramp in my stomach. In answer to the question, I don't and I've never met anyone who takes a cop, as it's called. No. I just can't. And I think taking off maybe a top, I could just about, but I think as soon as you're taking off jeans or chinos and fucking trainers or or shoes and socks it's a whole different also by the way can I just say as someone who's used fucking men's toilets

over the last 35 to 40 years right yeah it's insane to think like you take your shoes where do you put your clothes? Mate I'm sorry to be barefoot in a fucking in a public toilet you fucking animal in a pub can you imagine if you need shit at 1030 p.m. in a pub I don't even like taking a piss fully clothed in some pub toilets man Jimmy it's like and never have I looked across at the cubicle and for you know what I fancy doing getting fully naked and sitting down on that what What is wrong with people? That is, I'm with the cranes, I think it isn't a cool thing.

It's horrible. And also the only way I can really cope with it mentally is by assuming that these people are lying. A Heathrow Airport, do you know how many people sit down on that toilet? Yeah, yeah. Can I say by the way, shout out to the toilet attendants at Heathrow because I always find them to be impeccable and very clean. Gatwick as well. The toilets for the most part. Yeah, yeah, they are clean. Yeah.

Okay, question. Do you want the next email? This is from the unsettled elephant. This is quite a tricky one to tackle actually. I'd be interested in your thoughts, which is handy because I'm about to read the email out. Okay. Dear Wolf and Al, what are you sitting like that for? I'm listening. This is when you listen to things. Hiya. I've been watching the White Lotus with everyone else in the world, and I'm just not enjoying season 3, even though everyone else seems to be raving about it. Have you watched The White Lotus by the way? Yeah, I have.

Are you watching season 3? It's not the newest episode. I've watched the first two of them since episode 3. I've been to Thailand a few times and really enjoyed it, and they have lovely culture and beautiful music. Sorry, they have a lovely culture and beautiful music. But it seems to me that they've deliberately picked their most annoying and grating music as a soundtrack of this show. And also the cast really great with me. A bunch of girlfriends backstabbing each other all the time. Why are people raving about

this show? But what's really upsetting me is why is the music so upsetting to me? Am I racist? I don't think I am. But this music, but this music just doesn't sit right with me. Would love to know your thoughts. You boys mean the world to me. It's so nice to hear from men that are in touch with their feelings and are genuinely nice guys.

Well, I don't know how true that is. So thank you, the unsettled elephant. Right, Tom, what do you think? Have you been watching? Have you, have you watched like this in? Not watched any of it. Have you watched the first two series? No, I've had it recommended to me many times. I like this? Not watched any of it. Have you watched the first two series? No, I've had it recommended to me many times.

I've not watched a single minute of it. Apologies. I have watched Severance though. I'm well into Severance though. Anyone watch that? Yeah. What are you saying? It's so fed up. I've watched the first three episodes, series one, didn't really get on with it. I think it's well made and I think it's very good.

I just didn't on with it. I've got say I think it's well made. I think it's very good I just I just didn't click with it. I'm not so many not enough people falling over Not another one I'm doing a bit Somebody that's like a snob. Do you know what I mean? There's no one falling over in White Lotus. White Lotus isn't a gag. No, but I'm doing a fucking bit. That's why I don't...

Not enough knob gags for you. Is that the problem? Do you know what I think it is about White Lotus is that, number one, it's like anything that becomes very,, very popular, but also follows a very particular format. I think the writer and director of it is an incredible talent, but it follows a very specific format that when the first one came out, it was mind-blowing because he did something completely different with the genre. It was a really, really groundbreaking bit did something completely different with the genre.

It was really, really groundbreaking bit of television, amazing bit of TV. Second series, sort of like you're like, well, this is fucking great. You sort of you know kind of what he's doing, but you don't know where it's going to go. Third series, I think number one, it's really hard to follow to great series like that in the basis of with staying law to what your format is but I think the other thing is there's so much and I guess saving the severance in the sense and it's sticking with something but even for those first when you've watched a whole series I watched both

of them me and Catherine binge watched them. Me and Kat from Binge watched them both, so I didn't watch it episodically, which I am this one. And actually it's always quite a slow build in White Lotus. He's building the world, he's building the characters, and he takes such real great care of doing that. And actually it's when you're doing that week by week, rather than just sitting there binging four episodes in a sitting, it can feel quite laborious, I guess, in a way. You're waiting for someous, I guess, in a way. You're waiting for some action, you're waiting for something big to happen, and it doesn't necessarily kick in yet.

And also, character-wise, it's very hard to... all the characters are flawed a bit more in this one. If I'm going to be honest, I think it really misses Jennifer Coon, which I think she was just so fucking brilliant in those first two, and she gives it just a bit of light, and her performance in those shows is incredible. So actually, sitting watching it, you're a little bit like, they're slightly lacking somebody who brings that sort of,

that presence to it. Sure. And what about the music racist thing? I've not noticed the music in such that I dislike it. I think quite like I think he's always done that he set the tone with a sort of I mean I Don't think you'd be racist if you didn't like it I mean, I've got I've got less of an issue with them you not liking the music the new thinking that makes you racist like going It's like not liking a blur song and then go and I think I hate British people. It's like going, it's like not liking a Blur song and then going, I think I hate British people.

It's like, it's some music, do you know what I mean? It's not the whole, that's not... And also you should, the person says that they like the music and they just don't like some of the tracks that's been picked. Yeah, yeah. I do know that like, do they change the theme tune every series? I think they change it from, this is terrible, my days. I think the music that he uses every time is... because obviously it's set in a different country each time. So he uses music from that place as the sort of backing track. I think it's what I show as well that the music's used incredibly well to sort of push drama and push...

I just think it's slightly... yeah, it's very good. And Amy Louie's Lou Wood is very good. Unsettled Elephant. Walter Goggins, by the way, arguably one of the best character actors around there. He's fucking phenomenal. Who is that, sorry? Goggins.

He's just amazing. Yeah. Loved it. Yeah, he's fucking. He does all that running as well, doesn't he? Can I, so Unsettled Elephant, you don't have to. I love that you think that that's him in there, isn't it? That would be genius. I'm so Elephant you don't have I am I

I want to reassure you first of all you're not racist second of all Is it's annoying isn't it when you don't like something that everybody else likes or that loads of people like but? You like what you like, and you don't know what you don't, you know You just say it's it's once you liberate yourself from feeling a pressure to like stuff other people like it's great You know, everyone's raving about severance. I mentioned it to Tom Tom had no qualms about telling me. It's just not for him It's just you know, it is and I've had the same experience by the way. I've sometimes like Got everybody's talking about this. It must be amazing. And so I've watched it and I'm like, sometimes it has been the case. I resisted watching Breaking Bad. And then when I did watch it, I was like, I can't believe I've not watched this before,

it's unbelievable. There's other stuff that, you don't like Breaking Bad? I love Breaking Bad. But there's other stuff, there's other stuff I've come to watch and I've just gone, I get why people like this, but it's not like. Also watching something episodically or watching something like once you get certain length of time into something

you then you're then in a position where you've got to watch it entirety to the end and it when you've got kids and you know you're busy it's a it's a chunk of life. Me and Catherine are just getting to the end of our second viewing of the American Office, just because we very much enjoyed watching that. I can't really remember how it ends. Are you sitting on the floor, Tom? Yeah. I can't believe this. I'm very uncomfortable.

I can't believe this. I've actually got some boxes here that I could have put the laptop on. Oh, Tom, I feel... Now I've just sort of seen you shuffling around, and now I've just suddenly realized it's sitting on your ass. I'm sorry Sorry, but my my core is Relatively strong. Don't worry. I do. Yeah sure, but I don't really Actually feel really bad about this now, don't worry Sit on the fucking floor to do this podcast. This is my that's do you know what mate mate it's a crisp internet

connection I mean a lot better it actually and I will say this the laughter I've had from you is like that's that's all the love I need in the world my eyes are streaming because you've been so funny today I adore you you for that. You're such a mis-do. No they are. You've made me cry with laughter. You've made me snort, which actually put me in quite a lot of pain for my Mai Tai injuries. Yeah, sorry about that. Well look, there's a couple of things we need to clear up as we head towards the wrap-up.

I was only joking about you doing Mai Tai twice a week. I feel really bad about that whole section where I sort of ripped into you. Hold on, hold on. Get in the box. Wait, wait, they're too set. Okay, go on. He's getting a box. Are you gonna sit on that?

No, I'm not gonna put this like this, and then this, like this. And this would actually be the far better way of doing it. Cause I've been also, not just been sitting, I've been holding the laptop as well. Oh God. And for you to bring what you've been able to bring to it despite those difficulties is... It's a joy. So what is it? I look like I've been chained to a radiator. Is the mortgage so high now that you can't afford internet or

furniture is that what the situation is. We've moved in. I'm fairly taken up this thing. I'm thinking about making like just a tiny little box room in honor of you and just sort of having pictures of you and some of my favorite, you know, bits of your clothing and stuff. Go vintage and buy some things and ask Lisa for some of your old trainers. Yeah. When I went to the gig with my brother, I went with Din.

Din was gigging in Nottingham at Just the Tonic. And he hates my... He didn't want to say it, but he hates my tash. He hates it. Oh, really? So he goes, oh, you go in your hair and you've like Shaved you've Shaved all the bottom of your chin and I go yeah, so this is suck a bit of a different thing

You know, I go what do you think and he goes it's good like the length you've done and I said then what about this? But here and he goes And he couldn't sort of give me an answer and then it was sort of it was awkward for a minute or so Do you mean what I mean? Wow. How much do you care about how you look? I mean, I think like everyone else, I don't want to look a state,

but then Catherine's not a big fan. I should say by the way, the tash is slightly for me, it's for the role I'm doing at the moment. So you're gonna go back to beer, don't you, after this? No, no, I think I quite like it. I think I'll probably hang onto it for a while. I think as I move into, like, you know, I'm 47 this year, right? So, you know, once, once I'm now heading into the stage now where I think I'm going to start dressing quirky and like doing my hair in weird ways

and shit because like it doesn't matter, you know, now I like I'm into it I think I'm into my eccentric zone yeah I'm think I'm about to enter I'm about to enter into that you know I mean I might do you know I mean I might wear a suit to go to Tesco's I might turn up to an award ceremony in short you're not wearing a suit. Number one, you're not wearing a suit to Tesco's. Why are you dream crushing? I've literally literally I've'm doing this for 30 seconds. I'm just saying. Do you know what a hassle is to put a fucking suit on to go to Tesco's? I'm sorry, right? There's eccentric and there's like, oh, he fancies himself. If I'm

walking, if I'm walking down the can goods, right, and I'm looking at baked beans and you come down in a fucking three piece. I'm like, But what if it's a quirky like orange three-piece well then well then I'm calling Lisa and going is rubbish all right as you've been drinking this morning hmm okay if you're walking around in a fucking bright orange suit yeah sick yeah yeah but I think if you wear that to wear that to an award ceremony with you well what I might do toilet seat Johnny's where suit

jacket three piece up top and then just shorts Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where you look by the way. Yeah Which one gonna go bro? That's what I'm saying. I would say that where those when you come into London for meetings Tess go could you you make other people feel uncomfortable if you're walking around in the bright orange? So I'm trying to make people feel uncomfortable. I'm just sort of like moonwalking down the fuck it moonwalking down the bread and cheese. Oh, hey Everyone it's me. Yeah, we know you live around here. You know, we do you're doing really well for you So you actually saw your shot? There's not what there's not one all for bread and cheese you fucking out of touch Butler sending to Tesco's motherfucker. All right

Jesus Tesco's motherfucker, alright? Cheese is in the fridge. I know the bread is there, yeah, I know, yeah, but go to a Tesco's Express, then argue with me. Listen, I don't have a Tesco Express near me, okay? It's a co-op, and they don't keep the bread with the cheese. Mate, can I say that co-op, by the way, is high end? What do you mean? Co-op's fucking banging. Co-op, can I say, is the, co-op is your Coughlands.

We're back around, full circle. Can't sort scared of anything I thought so with all of the yeah, well, I could I tell you a story about what happened in the car But it's funny so that it's high-end Lisa returned home from co-op on Sunday quite distressed actually I distress it an exaggeration So Sunday trading hours You can't the tills can't open the clock, but the tills can't open till 10. Is that right or something? I don't know.

10 till four, yeah. There's a woman that works at the co-op. She's in her 70s. There's a bloke in there shopping. They're all waiting for the tills to open. Start shouting at this woman for not putting his transaction through right? Right, like just just being really fucking rude, right?

Lisa goes over to the woman afterwards sees what's happens goes over to when she goes are you okay? This is heartbreaking what I'm about to tell you Lisa checks in on this woman says are you okay is everything alright? And the woman says not really I'm 73 years old and things like that just make me wonder why bother This thing. Oh, what is wrong? What the fuck is wrong with people man? Do you mean like who she needs a buddy wrong? No What she doing working at 73, the mad old bat? Fucking sack it, no, like. That was so quick, actually.

That was fucking, that was rapid, bro. Anyway, yeah, I just don't understand. I'm in my phase of my life now where I don't consider anyone to be an arsehole. But that guy's doing a good impression of one. Do you know what I mean? I'm in my phase of my life now where I don't consider anyone to be an arsehole. Yeah, but you will. But that guy's doing a good impression of one. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but you're in a... Do you know what would have made everyone happy?

I will say this actually and I'll take it back. If you'd been there circling the aisles in your orange suit, you'd have tucked in and gone. Whenever you hear things like that, you just think, I wish I'd been there to fucking say to the geyser. Do you know what I mean? But you wouldn't have none of us do Well, maybe we should change that, you know Yeah, Lisa

Lisa has actually she is one of the most upstanding citizens I've ever come across Yes, she was this is this is another damning endowment of Crawley that I'm about to give you So this least was in lift at Marks of Spencer's and she was going up with this when the kids were little and this there was an elderly couple and these two women in full headdress got into the lift right and they couldn't they clearly didn't speak in English right because they couldn't speak you know they're like and then this elderly couple started talking about these women, like sort of safe in the comfort of knowing that they couldn't understand them,

started going in on these women. And Lisa actually said, can I just say the way that you're talking is absolutely disgusting, and just because they don't understand you doesn't mean it's right. Could you stop? And then the guy kind of got a bit shy with Lisa got a little when Lisa time with that story I reckon that's the first it's one of the only times I've

ever heard of a situation where you you could have said something and you did you know what I mean is there's been so many incidents I've had in my life I've stepped in when it's like I I mean, we've talked about this. Yeah, but I would say in that story, you're the elderly couple, aren't you? No, but haven't people said racist stuff to you about meals, like, but casually? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're friends, yeah. And they're not friends anymore. Yeah. And homophobic things or whatever. And that's why my friendship group has shrunk significantly. Because, you know, when you hear certain things, you don't

want to be around people. I think that is like, it's like a sneaking sickness in our society, right? We're like, people that you think otherwise completely like legit and okay, will suddenly say something really think that I really think racism is like, I think it's because that's well, let's not get into this because we're. Well, because we're about to end, we've got to do your final thought. It's going to be about some bear that's called somebody else's racelseler. No, but I actually just think that's actually a more worryingly prevalent thing that doesn't feel like it.

I've listened to people and like, you know on public transport whatever and heard people say certain things that I thought I can all like You really saying that like is that really something that you find is socially acceptable to say that out loud Yeah, like in 2025 and it just feels like you know, don't get me wrong that any kind of though that sort of thought process is discussed Well, yeah, but actually feels people are a little bit more comfortable about saying certain things and doing certain things than they probably were five or 10 years ago. I know that's true, but I do feel like people,

like I saw this video of Pedro Pascal, he was like getting a photo taken by that. You know that thing that sweeps in really quick? Oh, good, yeah, fucking I got caught. Is it glam-bot thing or whatever? So he was with, I can't remember his name, I take him by that you know that thing that sweeps in really quick So he um, he was with the I can't remember his name is the guy that presents is it cake that guy Yeah, so there he goes. Can we do one together? And he's Pedro Pascal is holding his hand, right? Yeah, they're both heterosexual but Pedro Pascal is holding his hand and the reason I'm clarifying the sexuality is that that video got shared and then all the loads of the comments were like,

really disappointed in Pedro and this is not the Mandalorian way and stuff like that. And this is all just people reacting because they think he's gay. I mean, it's fucking, what? It like, it's, and like that, by the way, not even, they've not even qualified it. It's not like I'm not I'm not homophobic, but it's like they just said it Jimmy Is that all these like but that's yeah, but that is the modern world isn't it is and on that note

I'd love you to fold this up with a little story about some sort of Something that will make us feel better Let's talk about feeling better. Let's talk talk about someone who made me smile this week. In a world full of bustle and hustle and glamour, suits worn on red carpets. Hey, who are you wearing today? Tom Ford, alas. Which dress are you wearing?

Versace. A world in which you can feel so much of an outsider. It's sometimes amazing to see someone stand up for a more casual way, a more casual attire. I'm talking of course about Adam Sandler at the Oscars. A pair of shorts and a hoodie. Chillaxed, relaxed, just being himself. I guess that's the thing we all strive for in life.

Whether you're a top level comedian walking around the aisles of Tesco's wearing a bright orange tuxedo, or you are one of the world's biggest comedian straight film stars wearing a hoodie at the Oscars. Let's just break that down. Why today if you're working in an insurance bureau, don't you just wear in your favorite crew neck? A pair of basketball shorts? Because that's not how we do things here, John. That's not how we work. But maybe we should be more socially acceptable for people being themselves. I remember a wise man once said, just do you.

I can't remember his name now, but he's not a million miles from here. I guess that's what we all strive to be, strive to do. Be the best versions of ourselves. Don't upset others. Don't shout ladies in a shop, or nay, be critical of people because of their color or their sexual orientation. Remember to always strive to be the best version of you you can.

And if you can, wear a smile alongside a pair of slacks, nay shorts, that make you for the best version of yourself Really good there we go really good loved it absolutely loved it It was not what the what I was gonna do to that was gonna be halfway through this I was gonna see something different about hay fever, but I kind kind of got the wind got taken out myself slightly that's it. I posted up on Instagram the ODB and Busta Rhymes remix of Woo Har got you all in check and somebody said can you make that the song at the end of the episode so JT could you do that so it's Woo Har got you all in check but specifically the remix featuring the ODB the legendary ODB

want to check but specifically the remix featuring the ODB the legendary ODB thank you so much listen to the podcast hope you good take care of yourselves Every time I design a flow you see in 3D Low list, victory I'll give you out, one, two, three In split mode it's the squad that controls your set But I got you all in check We're some out of space shit Locking wives on track Got you all in check You better keep my music banging till it disconnect I got you all in check

All your cash, get the money, let's cash the check Got you all in check All the cash, get the money, let's cash the check Got you all in check If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all please email us at wolfalpod at gmail.com That's wolfalpod at gmail.com We'd love toalpod at gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you, mainly because we don't have any content ideas. Thank you.