Wolf and Owl - S4 Ep 24: School Appeals & AI Stand-Up

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

We’re talking… Rom being back in the UK, a rush home from Gibraltar, the Ranganathan’s school appeal hearing, final GCSE exams, school proms and a cool dad competition, getting a knighthood, an A.I. stand-up routine about gardening, Tom’s sleep paralysis and the Wolf & Cub podcast. Then we answer emails about an embarrassed tour show apology, more sightings of Ronan Keating, and a report of a restaurant with service that went above and beyond. Apologies for Tom’s audio on this one - the only room at home he could record in this week was his banqueting hall. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Mighty Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca Bring your weak shit, wear the wolf and owler That ain't just a mistake, that's an awful howler Both of them are known to pull up at your shows Have the crowd witnessing the murder Like they're rolling with a gang of crows Fuck their senses shit, let em see the whole thing They stay dressed to kill, never sheep's clothing Dark enough to turn the sun to the moon You'll see nothing, all you hear's a huff and puff and a... Expect killings, red spilling and flesh ripping Impressive in it, the death bringing its head spinning Just kidding, every word in this song's about two grown men Dressed up as a bird and a dog It's nice to see that biggie picture just behind you. Yeah. Yeah, I tried to take it with me, but it wasn't wasn't

Yeah, yeah, but an insane thing to carry that car that round from hotel to hotel. I had a very very Well, it's a bit. It's a bit surreal actually so Tina I did two nights in Gibraltar Yeah, which was a bit like me Gratz and Robin on a sort of very very sad stag day How did you find you wanted you go and see the monkeys? We didn't have to go and see the monkeys, they were sat by the entrance to the venue. Oh wow, they came to see you? They're very aggressive apparently, if you touch them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got to be careful.

They look adorable but you shouldn't go near them really. Did you step outside of English Gibraltar into sort of the Spanish side at all? There is no Spanish side of Gibraltar. No, no, but like, did you come out of Gibraltar and go to Spain? Or did you stay in Gibraltar? We flew to Malaga and then travelled from Malaga to Gibraltar. It's fairly evident, isn't it, the moment you cross the border into Gibraltar, quite, the difference of the sort of cleanliness in the streets and how it's yeah Gibraltar needs I feel feel for a

bit it feels a bit forgotten at times. Well Gibraltar is like the whole thing feels like a holiday resort really do you know what I mean? And it's and it looks quite I don't know it's I said to them at the gig, this place is really weird. And they sort of like gave a knowing laugh as if they all, and then I got messages from people after going, we know it's weird, we love it. They weren't annoyed.

It was sort of, as an outsider going in, it's just really, like being so, like being that far away from home and everyone's speaking English. And then a couple of people I spoke to kind of had spent time in Spain and between Gibraltar but their first language is English so they sort of sounded like Spanish Scouts. Yeah I love that I love that twinge of an accent. Did you stay in Gibraltar then? Yeah. Nice boy.

Nice. I stayed at a hotel the Elliot Hotel. Yeah yeah it was nice it's nice it was really like a really sad stag day. Like I said, being kicked out by the way, who's staggered have been who was really like the sort of guy? Well, Rob, Rob was Rob was organizing a lot of stuff like we went bowling and stuff like that. Actually, I don't know. I wouldn't consider myself competitive guy. But Rob is just very good at all sports, right? So we play, you know, he's good at tennis,

good at all of these things. And then we went to go bowling. Now, I didn't say this at the song because I was trying to play it down a little bit, but I go bowling quite a bit. My God, my God. With the family. Yeah.

He's not been bowling for seven years. He destroyed me. He's got that genetic thing that you have though, when when you start when you play sports young and you play well And this these people always have to have a handle me and you right? That this is in their DNA to be amazing stuff. They feel good He wasn't even doing it in a horrible way because isn't got that about it, but he was giving me technique tips. I'm just like This guy's not played for years. That's what it's like when you play golf.

And now I'm taking the structure. Anytime you play golf with someone who played years ago and you fucking give your life to it. Anyway, so this is what the weird thing was. So I've been away with Graz and Rob for the best part of three weeks, right? Yeah. And that is a bonding experience.

You feel like you've been in the Love Island villa together. Yeah. And then on the last night, basically I found out that Charlie's appeal date for a secondary school place was the morning of Friday and my last show was on the Thursday in Gibraltar. So we had to look at how to get me back and so basically what happened was is after, imagine this, after three weeks I walked off stage, because this is the way the flights

worked out, walked off stage, said goodbye to Graz and Rob immediately, just jumped in a car, drove to Malaga, got to Malaga for midnight. My flight was at 6 a.m., so I had to get up at 3.30, then go to Malaga Airport, fly back. I had half an hour at home, and then I went in to deliver the appeal. Probably wired. Like, they must have thought- Can I just say, by the way,

that is like a fucking movie. This is like a Tom Cruise fucking movie. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the thing I would say is if the next Mission Impossible involved him getting a flight back from Malaga and delivering a sort of a talk about why son should go to specific secondary school We'd all be pretty disappointed

That'd be the death knell for Film the film industry wouldn't it good I just say that the air Brockovich you have those films have got those beautiful moments here Yeah, yeah, I mean I was quite tired like you saw here some guy going, he won't make it, he's not going to be here. We're going to close the case on Ragnar. I don't think so. I don't think so. Open the binders please, because I think you'll find there's one more appeal to go. What's that t-shirt you're wearing? I've just done three nights and you'reraltar, you piece of crud. Mr. Agnothica, I'd just say it's very unorthodox to turn up to an appeal with a t-shirt saying, my tour went to Gibraltar and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.

When we turned up, it was at Crawley Library, the appeal. First thing we did was we missed the person sat by the door so you just walked straight into the appeal thing with into the hearing thing and then everyone sat there going what are you doing in here? So that was a terrible start. Yeah and then then went in and delivered it. I feel like I was very stuttery and awful but... You're always your own harshest critic. I guess so. I'd like to get someone else who's in the room to give a review On that so I bet you if anybody that was on you I mean, I've not found that we've not found out the result yet

So we find out when this goes out will be tomorrow So if anybody you know anybody on the appeal if you happen to be a wolf enough and which would have helped me out Actually, if that if that was the case then Please do get in touch and let me know how you thought I came across in the appeal. It was hard though. It was the most, Lisa was saying to me that she, you know, obviously we get so used to doing gigs and stuff and then I don't feel any nerves when I'm going on stage.

Really? Oh my God. No, not really. And then this is the first time in years, I felt sort of like almost, crippling is a would be a massive overstatement but just like really bad nerves I was all over the place and then afterwards where your adrenaline sort of flushes out your system that weird come-down yeah it's strange in it so so we did that and

then it's very emotional week for us in the Reagan Nathan house because we had the appeal on Friday today. Theo is doing his last GCSE exam. Wow. I'm telling you, boy, moving in the Reagan Nathan. It's like the end of the movie is in your house. I know it really is. And it's sort of, it's going to be sort of, can I say by the way, shout out least like you and Lisa, because that must have been you've been away for the three weeks before that hearing must have that was taking it yeah that was

no but in terms of the running of the house I think Lisa found it easier so it's easy to keep everything tidy no food food bills have come you must have found it difficult not being there with each other that must have been been hard, man. Like, to talk it over. I think I found it difficult. No, we did a series of... It was like preparing for a stand-up show, so we did like loads of Zooms, working on the structure of what we were going to say and all this stuff.

Wow. Can I just say, I bet... You said your story. I would say Lisa, that is her. Lisa is one of the sweetest kindest people. I would not want to get on the wrong side of Lisa. I can imagine she... It's funny. I can imagine, if that was me and Catherine going in, I'd be like, look, I'm going to jokily just start this. I'll be the accommodating nice guy, and then she'll kick in.

Then you've got to for it. There's one bit where I threw to Lisa with a joke. And it was the ass dropped out of the room so bad. It was so horrible. Try to do stuff for your new tour. Shit, how this lands. I was like, you know, bloody hell, it reminds me of what was happening on

You know what's going on with the preparation for soccer aid. Am I right guys? Guys Anyway, what else was I gonna tell you? Just try the new joke, you know, you know you die on stage and a new bit dies you have to reinforce it with a Look at this guy an older bit that you know works so you just go into your house yeah yeah what's the deal with trainers I click trainers I had I had a weird thing happen at the I'm so nervous about that result man about the the well there's a bit the other thing

that's happening this week so So, so about Charlie's appear, which I'm incredibly nervous about, and I'm really anxious about the results tomorrow, Theo's last exam, he's going to get like a fresh trim or whatever, because he's got his prom on Friday. Oh, wow. And, and, and the, like his friends and their parents are coming around to ours on the Friday before the prom for a

little, All his friends? Not all of his friends. Well, like his, his, his like little Friends and their parents are coming around to ours on the Friday before the prom for a little all these friends Not all of his threat. Well, he's his like little group Not the whole year group, but like his group of friends about 10 10 kids come into ours with their parents for a little It obviously like Theo's got no idea what that involves He goes I think it's like maybe six or maybe ten are coming. I go well, we need an exact number actually, mate Yeah with parents as well. I mean, that's that's like maybe six or maybe 10 are coming. I go, well, we need an exact number actually, mate. Yeah, with parents as well. I mean, that's another 20 people on top of that,

give or take, every single parent. He's also intimated that, OK, it'd be an incredible thing for you to get yourself canceled and described with a group of parents that are coming to the prom pre-drinks. Anyway, he did ask us he asked us to He asked us to not be embarrassing basically and then I said to him Basically last night was having a chat with him because he's got his last exam today. It's very excited I said to him like where would you rank us in terms of?

Cool parents because I think we're quite cool. Yeah, and he was not he was not as He was not supportive of that idea as I thought he might be, actually. Yeah, but I read a thing the other day about how kids judge their parents. And with Theo's age, Charlie's still in the eighties, like Grace, sort of coming out of there at three, which is quite disappointing.

But Theo's at that age right now where he's completely like, he doesn't see you as God. He sees you as just his parents and he's rebelling He's you know rebelling against that sort of I think I think you're pretty much you're fucking epic dad I text you father's day as such. I think Lisa's an incredible mom very cool parents Yeah, good people, but it doesn't matter even the Beckham's must have this You know me the Beckham's do have it Brooklyn Beckham is not talking to David Beckham. Yeah, I found it heartbreaking. By the way, as a me, I mean, yeah, it is hard. But it is heartbreaking.

Equally. It's impossible to know what's actually happened. Yeah, because David put up a nice thing about Brooklyn on father's day. Shout out David Beckham, by the way, getting his MBE, Sir David. Is it MBE or what? Do you think you would you accept in honour of that night? By the way, congratulations to everyone in Scotland, but would you accept in honour of that night? I don't think that's something I particularly have to concern myself with if I wanted to.

I think the list of problems that go on inside my head and the mental anxiety that I have about day to day life, worrying about a nighthood isn't something that I can, I can list at the moment. It's not something you work with. You work with the King's Trust, don't you? So it's in the, it's in the realms of possibilities. I think I'm on the, I'm on the fringes. It's not something I'd ever, yeah. Anyway, but so where did the wrecking?

I would say the the the sort of shrugging and that that really does convey somebody that has it quite high on the list of their vision board. It's not it's not it's not it's not here or there for me. I want to show you my vision board at the moment is is quite it's a solid isn't this one solitary. Hey, and you know that I spoke to you But I know we can't discuss it, but we've got a solitary aim and that is to not cry in the mirror No, no, it's a little cry when you get night head If you got a night of her's I can't even fucking begin to imagine what that Instagram post would look like. I reckon you'd get a piece of art commissioned. You know like the movie posters of people in different scenarios, like you on the set of Murder Successful,

you dressed as King Gary, you holding little G up like Simba in line. I'm gonna get one like a neon horse with Charles holding the horse Yeah, like a The horse looking absolutely gas yeah, I'll get my back with you We have to stand here for the whole painting yeah, well I suppose now we're going to have to have it put down. It's back completely gone. Yeah. It can't seem to stand up straight. Bloody, bloody hell, why do we let the massive man on the back of the bloody steed?

Why are we holding it straight? It's like a jockey carrier. I don't know if that's a jockey carrier, is it a horse racing? Anyway, back to the point on Theo. So I said, Theo, where do you rank us in terms of coolness? He goes, I don't know, because maybe we'll have to see on Friday. I think he sees other parents as cooler. He's always seen other parents as cooler.

Can I just say, by the way, is the reason that you've invited all the parents around to this is to see how you think you and Lisa Lisa rate like you do you know what I I consider us to be best friends yeah you know you're really the idea that you think this is from anywhere near my idea fucking staggers me yeah I bet I know I know how competitive you are you should set that so Lisa's going we'll get all the everyone around it would be amazing it'd be lovely to have everyone around you I bet I know I know how competitive you are. You've just said that so Lisa's going we'll get all the Everyone around it would be amazing. It'd be lovely to have everyone around you like yeah Yeah, see where these fuckers are when it comes to coolness when I fucking check you by the way

I will say now a tire was swag wise drip wise I Feel for the other dads because you know you've got a look at the moment that is working so nice for you It's generally sweet of you to say well, it's 20 25 I think the mustache by the way as you saw a message me there so I haven't seen it yet I think it's got prior levels massage now. It's good. That's what somebody said to me. That's Do you know what if I was to choose something about prior that I take on it might be his comedic ability No, it's fucking mustache Can I say but iconic because of him not

My every you're burning got one fucking Eddie had one they're all banging the slushies back in those days You're gonna go into my mustache. I'm in my mustache comedy phase now. I've got back to a beard I miss some so know you have full beard. Yeah, I've missed some stuff. But Pete, it's not, it's divisive, mate. I wouldn't say it's universally like- You look so handsome and the clothes you're wearing with it look fucking sick. So I'd say any dad at the moment,

if any dad who's going to Romesh's on this Friday, up your fucking game or you're gonna be murked. It's gonna be weird when like the parents sort of chatting ago what did you think of the experience there I don't know why his dad turn up in a full Gucci suit that was a bit of a weird move for so this every time he cracked a joke he had a death jam sort of DJ bit. Why do you have a DJ dropping a beat every time? Oh at first I thought it was really cool because I thought that Martin Two-Smith was Theo's dad.

Why, when we walked up why did he say I ain't scared of you motherfuckers? Well I thought that Martin Two-Smith guy, the really cool guy with the hat was Theo's dad because Theo was stood with him most of the night. Yeah and Theo was sort of looking at him with a sort of adoration that a son would do to Obviously Lisa was sitting on his knee And then sort of when he dropped the big expansion So hold up the guy theorist that was a guy hanging out the vegetable flat platter He was like the guy that kept us the crudity, if you please?

Oh, was he the guy talking about vegan cheese? In the full Gucci suit, with the big gold necklace? Oh, man. Kits will be cool if you're understated, just be you, bro, because I think you're a cool fucking guy. And it's a treat. Tom, have you done anything with AI recently? In what sense? What built AI? Do you use AI at all?

Not really, I see more, but you know, I'm obsessed with those gorilla videos on Instagram. Yeah. They're fucking incredible. If you were to do a standup, I'm just gonna ask it to write a Tom Davis standup routine, okay?

Can you give me a topic? Yeah, okay. Gardening. Okay, hold on one sec. AI is writing stand up now. Look, okay, okay, first of all, it's written. It's there. You ready? Yeah. Okay.

Here is a Tom Davis style stand up routine about gardening, complete with this characteristic self-deprecation, observational humour and a touch of the absurd imagine him pacing the stage gesturing while that's pretty much all my reviews said yeah it's not that I get it's a different way of wording route one isn't it yeah so here we go Tom Tom strives this guy. Like daddy in the house. Okay, I'm going to try and deliver this routine now, okay? Tom strives onto the stage, mic in hand, looking slightly dishevelled,

perhaps a bit of imaginary dirt on his cheek. Dishevelled? What? Dirt on his chin? Yeah, I don't know what that's... Jesus, dishevelled! Yeah, he surveys the audience, squints. All right, all right, you lovely lot. Tom Davis here. How we doing?

Good to see you. He pauses to adjust the mic, looks thoughtful. Now I was having a right-on think the other day, right, about hobbies, you know, things that you do to unwind. Some people, they knit, don't they? Do a bit of knitting, little jumpers for cats, whatever. Some people, they go to the gym, get all flexy. Me, I thought, you know

what, Tom, you're a big lad, you spend a lot of time indoors, get yourself outside. Get some fresh air, do some gardening. He makes a sort of wafting gesture with his hand. Gardening sounded all right on paper, didn't it? Little bit of sunshine, birds chirping, gentle breeze, pictures in your head, don't you? A lot of those adverts for compost. Everyone's smiling, got perfect little gloves on, not a speck of mud. He shakes his head. Nah, nah, nah, nah. That's not my garden, mate. My garden looks like a battleground, like a scene from Mad Max, but with more weeds. First problem, tools, right? You need tools for gardening. They went down to B&Q, right? Look at these things. It's forks, spades, trowels, rakes, pruners, secateurs.

I don't know what half of them do. I just want to dig a hole, not perform open heart surgery on a rose bush. Jeez. I ended up buying this. This thing. Looked like a medieval torture device, but the bloke in the shop said it was for aerating the lawn. Aerating? I thought that was something they did to fizzy drinks. Oh my god.

So I get home, right, and I'm trying to aerate. I'm stabbing at the lawn, sweat pouring off me, looking like I'm trying to wrestle a particularly stubborn badger. My mission comes out, right? She looks at me, then at the lawn. Tom, she says, what are you doing? I said, I'm aerating,rating love giving the grass some air. It's suffocating. She just shook her head and walked off probably went back inside to watch

something sensible. Fucking hell this goes on for ages. I mean we get to just this is such a long routine. I mean fucking hell if I could burn that. Can I do one for you then? Yeah, go on. Try it. Right. That has literally, by the way, soul destroyed it. That's what they think my style of comedy is. Well, I mean, it's not that far away from what you do, is it? Well, it's not that. That's why, yeah, that's why it's a fucking slap in the face. If I'm honest with you, I'm like, why am I bothering fucking writing this fucking bane or shit I am?

you're like, why am I bothering fucking writing this fucking banal shit? Well, okay, what? What what we're gonna what do you want yours to be about? Do it about being a cool parent. Here we go. It's working it all out. Here's a Romesh Ranganathan style stand up routine about trying and failing to be a cool parent. It's got a signature dead pad delivery, self-deprecation and simmering irritation. Romesh Ranganathan good press. There's no stage direction of sort of like hint of me stinking by the way. Like on mine it's like Davis stinks and

like he's got dirt all over his face and it's like the shepherd. By the way, like, on my list, like, Davis stinks, and like, he's got dirt all over his face, and it's like the shovel. By the way, why the fuck does, I think I'm probably danger-filled. It's like... I don't know, it's bizarre, isn't it? Here we go. You ever try being a good parent? I tried it once, it lasted about seven minutes.

And I thought, I'll be the dad that gets it. I'll be the one their friends say, your dad's jokes are actually funny? Do you know what my son said to me when I picked him up from school wearing a hoodie and sunglasses? Oh gosh. Oh gosh. Oh gosh. He said, can you just be normal for once? Mate, you're nine! You still think Minecraft is a personality? Don't tell me to be normal!

I try to use slang and say, that dinner slaps. This really looks like you actually. My younger's looked at me like I just pissed on the rug. He goes, you can't say that. I go, why not? He goes, because you say it weird, it makes it racist somehow.

Apparently, I can't say bruv, vibe, or lit. I can only say things like, put your coat on and do your own work. Anything else sounds like I'm doing an undercover police sting. I download TikTok to see what they really do. My phone had a panic attack. I opened the app and it was just teenagers dancing.

Dogs wearing sunglasses, some American man screaming, alpha males eat raw liver. I watched 30 seconds and I developed a twitch. This all goes on in that vein. I mean, some of it's not bad. Doesn't it mind the undercover police thing, gag? Yeah, it's not bad, mind the undercover police thing gag. Yeah, I actually thought the slag stuff was actually alright, it wasn't too bad. What do we, does that frighten you slightly? The idea that it just generated that in about what, five seconds?

Yeah, we spend what, six to eight months to a year working on stuff that's arguably as base. About the same or worse than what that. Do you think it will take over then? Do you think that will be the thing that people do? Yeah, I think it's inevitable. What, people just? No, no, I don't think that. I mean, I think it's difficult,

because I was about to say that I don't think it ever will, because if you're writing stand-up in the way that you know if you're writing personal stand-up then AI is never going to be able to manufacture if you're writing stuff from your this is a bit wanky if you're writing stuff in your authentic self yeah I can't AI can't substitute that but we have seen like there's all sorts of issues isn't there with them with AI like art, you know,

in terms of paintings and stuff like that. Yeah but even that, surely when it comes to art you want to see by something that is built because like paintings sorry, you know, or built, or sculpted, that's made from someone who's, it comes from someone, a human being, and you feel like that actually comes from someone who's it comes from someone of a human being and you feel like that actually comes from but it is almost if it if somebody creates like Those those monkey videos and AI so they haven't animated it whatever but they've given it the inputs to generate that kind of content In that's creativity isn't it you're using a Still create that's that's that's that of it, is the part where I go,

that is the most vulnerable. Their animation and that sort of thing, they're under threat, which is horrible to think of because some brilliantly talented people. But yeah, if someone can bang those out in the regulate, the trouble is as well though, that what happens then is everyone the first person came up like gorilla you know the guy fighting 100 men and who is the gorilla

fighting them which were brilliant and hilarious and like there's so many copycats already of that now and it's like who owns that as a thing it's like because it's a because disney have just issued a lawsuit haven't they against like an AI engine for copyright breach Yeah, because like they're making Mickey do all sorts of stuff But I mean, I don't know, you know and so like that's gonna be like a real landmark case because By the way, I'm speaking to somebody doesn't really understand it But it's gonna be a landmark case because if Disney lose that then it means kind of I think my understanding is it means all bets

Are off we've got that sort of thing. Do you mean? Yeah, and then it means kind of I think my understanding is it means all bets are off We've got that sort of thing. Do you mean? Yeah, and then that means could somebody in theory Could somebody in the future do a stand-up special of Tom Davis without your but that's the thing isn't it? Isn't that what the whole? Sack and all the a lot that the the stripe was about was about people's image and image rights Yeah, but then but then if like but if you're doing it if somebody Let's say for example They've got the technology to a point where a tick tock click could be generated of you doing a bit of stand-up that you've not Written right so it's just you doing some stand-up and it's like it's nothing to do

It's not gonna be that difficult on the basis. They've already got the sort of the routine locked Yeah, they know you're filthy so when you walk on stage What gra I don't know what your grounds are if that happens if not one of us say that what? Legal right surely that is that is image rights and that's someone that's what I mean Do you have do you have you do you have your image rights? Do you know that? Yeah, I don't I mean I have to look into it as do you have yours? I don't know. I've got no idea.

But I'm sure as a human being, you own the rights to yourself. That'd be pretty fucking- Yeah, but then if you're doing it as a TikTok, they're not doing it for commercial. I mean, I know people make money from TikToks, but they're not doing it for commercial. Like what I'm saying is,

it feels like it's a massive gray area this whole thing but you already see it on tick tock and Instagram of football managers and People they've made videos where people are saying like who's the guy from for Brits? Yeah, Romano that the transfer guy Yeah, have you seen they do for fake ones of him? Oh, yeah. Yeah, keep doing here. We go Yeah, and it's like so they've got one now, it's ridiculous, like fucking messy, sorry in front. Yeah, they did a Here We Go of Gyokuro signing for Man United, Alex and he had a panic attack. It's freaking out. Okay, yeah, I mean I'd be more worried if SESCO goes down.

It's uh, yeah, but it's fucking, it's something, I mean, but it is here right you there's no get around it Right, there's nothing we could do about it. We're gonna have to fucking live like accept it Well, the thing we use it in your day-to-day life where you go That can help I find as she's Like the only thing is if you are gonna ask you a question about some sort of life Right thing it can be quite quick and quite easy. I'm gonna ask you a question about some sort of life right thing, it can be quite quick and quite easy. And recipes is very good for. That's what I've been using it for. So yesterday I had like a load of veggies in the fridge

and some bits and pieces. So I just said, I've got this, what would you make? And then it suggested and I made it and it was good. It's pretty sick for that. So it is good for that. But then, you know, that what you're doing then, you're doing somebody out of a job then, aren't you? Like people that actually put recipes together,

you know, you should be giving them attention, do you know what I mean, like actual humans. And then there's also the environmental impact. Every time you put a query into that, so there's just then when we put a query into the AI and you put a query into your AI, that uses a 15th of a teaspoon of water is what i read that in terms of like obviously that there's electricity and you know there's power generated into creating that response right so every time you do that it's a 15th of a teaspoon

of water where's the water going that's a great question i mean mean, I might have to ask AI. But then the irony is that's the only thing that concerns me is it like that all the time? Just AI uses water primarily for cooling data centers where the servers that power AI models generate significant heat. The cooling process often involves water intensive methods like cooling towers which can evaporate substantial amounts of water. Additionally, the electricity needed to power these data centers may be generated by power plants including hydroelectric and thermoelectric plants, which also have their own water footprint. So there you go, we've not even got to the electricity.

So what I'm saying is this is not free. Wow. You know. We think it is, yeah. Well, you know, that's the naivety of the human condition, Tom, is that we do these things without realising or really fully reflecting on the impact it's having on the world that surrounds us. I suppose Greta Thunberg hasn't said anything about it. No, but she's, you know, she's been busy on a boat, hasn't she, trying to get into it. Yeah, just trying to do a bit of the stuff. No, but she's you know, she's been busy on a boat isn't she trying Anyway, listen, it's I arguably

Once again as is the way with the good shit wolf and owl we have stumbled into waters That are far too choppy for two men of our intellect to tackle. Yeah Fucking fascinating that I never knew about the more thing. Oh, yeah, I never thought about it I just thought it was on your phone. So I didn't even think about it. It's on your phone. Yeah, but like this It's got to come from somewhere. They've got like somewhere. They've got to store the information. Tom Davis is filthy. Yeah That's gotta be that's gotta be That is you know, can I just say that in the world of AI that that is their fucking go-to that I'm so big smelly Fucking ogre that just sort of suggests that I think that I think they're suggesting it's like that might be a character thing

that you did I would I would love I would love to be to see you like backstage before you do a tour show and then I just say what you doing you guys just applying the old mud to the truth they love that if that became a thing that you do yeah maybe I'll do it for the next couple of gigs and see how I get on. Yeah. So you're the cheek, mate. Yeah. Well, I mean, Milton Jones has to do his hair doesn't it before he Yeah, so that my my ballpark. Yeah. Can I say this week? Have you ever had sleep paralysis before?

Is that what? What exactly? I mean, I can kind of guess. What exactly does that look like? Basically, it's like your mind wakes up in the most awful dream. So you're sort of partially awake, but your body and your sort of like, your body's still asleep. So you're paralyzed. So you can't speak, you can't move, but your mind's awake, but then you see trippy shit. Like I had it this week, it was fucking awful. Like terrifying.

So what happened? So at three in the morning, I wake up, like I get into like, it feels like, it's like I hear someone coming into the house downstairs. I literally hear the door open open someone's footsteps coming upstairs and I like go to move but I can't move I'm like right and I go to speak and say to Katherine I can't move and I can't no sound comes out of my mouth I'm literally just there just fucking and I can hear them get near and near to the bedroom and I'm like, oh my god They're coming through the door and then fucking I give my body wakes up oh my god that sounds horrible

mate you got that more than once I've had it years and years ago but not so I've not never had the dream and stuff with it I put up about on Instagram and a lot of people message me sort of some trippy shit other people have had shout out Jack mate actually and the guys Jack Mate, they sent me a whole link about this guy, I haven't watched it yet. So what causes it? But his anxiety causes it, his stress. You've been quite anxious recently haven't you? Yeah, yeah. So it just feels like, also weirdly, it's one of, Grace has been coming into our

room and sleeping and she didn't come in that night she slept in her own bed which in itself could have just been like So it's gonna be the first example of like a parent asking if they can sleep with their kid Jimmy like sleep Graces dog I've got ghost you Don't be scared Provales this piss off you fucking mug you sad old fuck I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, I'm obviously, What's really good is that she's sort of taken on owl type energies, isn't she? Yeah. She could be a good replacement for me on this podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, give her a couple years. Get her to speak patterns so she can really describe how annoying I am. It's not just the sort of like, yeah. I'd love to hear the wolf and cub podcast, but I mean, that would mean that I'm dead. No, no, no. I can keep you.

Also, it'd be soul-destroying to have to have, you know. I could do this as it's a friendship. And it's very given to I won't be able to go into my daughter in the same way that I mean, you could have no, that's true. Yeah, you know, you're sort of little snakey kind of, yeah, you can do the thing where you pretend to compliment them about actually what you're doing is you're doing an absolute takedown of everything about it.

I could pretend to compliment all the all the time the other day. She, she did her hair herself and I said it's amazing but yeah you're not going out of the house like that. No absolutely yeah I'd rather shave your head run the risk of you going out like that. Would you like to do some emails Tom? I love emails, I love the juice that we get from an email. Okay this one is from the Dumbo octopus. Well, okay. Okay. Dear Wolf and Al from the Dumbo octopus. I'm writing to her for a formal heartfelt apology for my behavior at your Gibraltar

show. Oh, wow. Now, now I actually remember this incident. It's difficult not to, but here we go. I was the woman in the front row with my husband Dom, the poor man in the biggie t-shirt who had no idea what was coming. After just four drinks, apparently all it takes these days, thank you perimenopause, I entered a mysterious phase of the evening known as unfiltered confidence meets delusion. Somewhere mid-show I decided Dom should become your best friend. Why? Nobody knows

but I clearly felt the best way for that to happen Was to tell you in front of hundreds of people that you had a giant tattoo of Biggie Smalls on his bum so This is a bit where I just basically this Apple yeah, so I was talking about the biggie tattoo I've got on stage and Then she interrupted me to say that her husband had a tattoo of Biggie on his bum and then the conversation well it took a long time anyway let me reassure you absolutely does not i honestly have no idea why i said it just tumbled out my mouth like a drunken game of mad libs one minute we were laughing at your jokes the next minute i was inventing rap themed arse art even don was confused we both are still

i know your job is to get last but ideally not from the front row trying to hijack the set. For that, I'm truly sorry. Please accept my apology and thanks for handling it all with grace and minimal restraining orders. We're both genuine fans and despite my behavior, we left the show in stitches. Wishing you all the best, and if you ever do want a Dom Biggie tattoo collab,

just say the word. I'm still too ashamed to listen to your most recent podcast in case you mentioned disgusting behavior from the knobhead in the front row. I really am genuinely sorry. Cringing forever, the totally ashamed and obviously thirsty Dumbo Octopus. Love you guys. There you go.

Wow. It's very good that she's apologised. That's very sweet. It is a weird thing because we've talked about this before. But there is like, it does seem to happen so much now where people, I think people don't know how much you can throw a gig, and this is not getting it this lady because she's very great, she's apologised, but someone doing that, I don't know, I wasn't there, but like I've had it quite a lot recently where people almost try to have a conversation

with you whilst you're on stage and you're like, it can completely disrupt the show for just about everyone else there. Well, I mean, the Dumb Octopus, first of all, I'd say thank you for getting in touch. It was an unusual conversation because she says he's got a biggie tattoo on his ass. Then I go, do you have a biggie tattoo on your ass? And he said, no, I don't. So then I go, he says he doesn't have a

biggie tattoo on his ass. And she goes, he does. So then I've got two people that just say the direct opposite. And then I just had to exit out the conversation. But that was fine. It was like kind of it was we had a bit of a laugh about it in the moment. And it was actually a lot of credit. At least it's a very funny thing to exactly it was like it was like it was fine. What is the thing that people don't realize that is like but by the way I'm not complaining as in woe is me but but is this an example of when

people don't realize that they what they're doing if you know I mean and they shouldn't there's no reason why they should do but occasionally if you pause to say something before like if you pause before a punch line and then somebody shouts something out what they've done is killed the they've killed the joke do you know what I mean so like it happened to me so but basically when we did the Gibraltar show so the Gibraltar show is in this amazing cave St Michael's cave incredible setting to do stand up unbelievable right so Rob is DJing up behind me and then I'll walk up kind of round through the cave onto the stage it's an incredible setting but they have

to all get a bus up to the we don't mean they can walk but what I mean is it's a bit of a trip to come to watch the show you know what I mean so so what they said to me was everybody sees it as a bit of an of a proper night out and so they'll be quite drunk. The promoter said to me they'll be quite drunk for the show. So I'm just letting you know, you might be dealing with a more drunk crowd or a more rowdy crowd than you normally might be. And so what did happen a lot during that show was people shouting out every time I stopped

talking or they'd like just scream. It was really bizarre. On the first night they would just scream every time I stopped talking. So all they'd like just scream. It was really bizarre. On the first night they would just scream every time I stopped speaking. And then what happened is in the next joke, it just wouldn't land because people are just like, what the fuck was that? And then just be really confused. So that is, that is a lot more disruptive actually. You sort of can't do anything about it. And then if you say, well, if you could stop making those noises, it really helped the flow of the show. Then you just look like a teacher

that's lost control of the class. Yeah. So that is true. So actually Dumbbell Octopus, what I'd say is in your defense, what you did actually became part of the show. It was absolutely fine. So don't worry about it. But thank you for getting in touch to apologize.

That's very, very, yeah. It's a good look for you. Yeah, but you know, it's the sort of thing where like, you know, if you're watching Tom, you go, you got a bit of dirt on your cheek and you go, oh, she look for you. Yeah, but you know, it's the sort of thing where like, you know, if you're watching Tom, you go, you got a bit of dirt on your cheek and you go, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why do you look so scruffy? Make an effort, you loser. Uh, excuse me. Why are you walking so close behind me?

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If it landed. How would you, if it landed, what would that, how would that make you feel? I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't think, this is my difference with AI, is that I'm not sure, I don't think you'll be knowing you very well. I think jokes have to, a bit like music

has to come from you, right? I think it has to be, like, I think when, it's like when you have some jokes written for you, if you get a writer in, sometimes a theme will work, but you've kind of got to shape it yourself. So the idea that You could stand there and give the same Gusto to stuff like that as you would to stuff that you just actually really happened to your reality or is a sort of embellishment of something That's happened to you is I just don't think

that could be the same thing. I might be wrong. I think there's certain acts that who do joke jokes that that could work for people who do puns or jokes that might actually that that could be a thing that I think when you're talking about sort of very personal stuff it could be quite a difficult thing. Yeah it sounds like somebody honestly it sounds like somebody's trying to reassure himself that he's not going to get replaced by um, yeah. But listen, I agree the center. By the way, the two different versions of like you, there was no sort of you were like clearly the board. I always thought we all know who Robert's ranganators. Uh, I for Tom Davis was like, you know, the sort of big stinky scruffy guy that, no, but but I mean I think they did describe your humor pretty well

I thought yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah simmering intensity, which is yours, which is a lot cooler than pathetic loser who stinks Well, I didn't say stink just sort of look a bit disheveled Yeah, we've got one over their face. Well, just a bit of dirt on the cheek just to sort of sell the gag I guess like I guess it's like you're in character somebody's just finished doing a bit of garden got straight to a gig without a show Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean is that complementary? No, no, it's a bit of a low and also hey I think that it's quite hard to think there's a big computer somewhere. There's fucking Roasting you at 8 30 in the morning. Yeah, it um and also the fact that it can do it so quickly is

terrifying. Yeah. Anyway this is from the academic albatross. Thank you. Hello you beautiful sweet sweet souls. Listening to the pod I heard you speaking about this is by the way becoming a bit of a thema. Heard you speaking about seeing Ronan Keating in the wild and it brought back a long lost memory. It was the mid nineties. I was at a garden center with my mum just doing the usual weekend wonder. We were looking at some garden furniture

when my mum turned to a nearby man and asked him how much the chairs cost. He was very polite and he said he'd go get someone to help. It wasn't until he walked away that I realized it was Ronan Keating. Wow. Wow. Actual Ronan Keating. My 10 year old self nearly had a full internal meltdown.

I was so starstruck I couldn't speak. I literally just stood there like a garden gnome. Didn't even tell my mum till we were back in the car. She was horrified she tried to buy a chair off Ronan Keating and also slightly annoyed I didn't point out at the time. Anyway moral of the story always check if your helpful garden centre assistant might be a 90s boy band icon. Wow. Isn't that, isn't that, what a lovely story about Ronny Keaton. Ronny Keaton, we're finding so much out about him and he is an absolute cheer of all. It just sounds like one of the most incredible people. Also I love the thought that that's what he does over the weekend he just chills at the garden center just walking around. I now, I'm in the

situation where I don't know how I'd handle it if I went on The One Show now and he was hosting. Yeah. You know what I mean, it'd be very tricky wouldn't it? I'm now I'm in the situation where I don't know how I'd handle it if I went on the one show now and he was hosting Yeah, you know I mean be very tricky wouldn't it? I'm starstruck I'm a big fan of his music, but I'm an even bigger fan of his humanity And he's if he's doing little kind acts like that. That's just some of the bigger stuff. He's got going on. Yeah Yeah, he was he just going oh What do you have to oh, it's just The bigger parts of nice parts just over there behind that big disgusting disheveled guy with dirt all

over his face oh nice accent okay let's do let's do another email Tomo hit me baby boy this one I'm interested in your take on this okay because this sounds quite remarkable. Okay, this is from the Clumsy Polar Bear. Okay. Dear Wolf-Al, Pod and Swann, I'm a long time listener, big time fan. Shout out to the whole animal pack.

At the start of the year, you had lots of chats about restaurants, so I thought you might be interested in an extraordinary situation I had the other night. I'm a Londoner and lived here all my life, but in recent years, I've really started growing tired of it One thing that seems to annoy me is the fact that how busy the city is often it feels like restaurant This is getting a bit often. It feels like restaurants in the service industry in general don't really have to try They know they'll get more people coming through the door. Okay

So although I've had plenty of good experiences in restaurants more often than not I find myself disappointed by the quality of the food and service despite the hefty price tag. Before we get on with the email, would you agree with that Tom? Partially. I think there's some amazing little smaller restaurants, but I think yes, some places just... I think naturally as well, it's very hard to build up a report when you're working in very, very busy restaurants as full-on as some of them are. And also, let's say the service industry is very, very... It's a tough one at times. I know that I've Said my piece here and there but yeah Why is he getting so cagey about it?

reminded me of the absolute diatribe you'd launched into fucking spit coming out your mouth Filling off your cheek as you just went into a rant about what options they should have. Yeah, I forgot about that Anyway, the other night my wife and I booked an early dinner at a restaurant in Covent Garden ahead of a night at the theatre with some friends. The service was quick and attentive. The food came out quickly and tasted great. About halfway through dinner I accidentally knocked over my nearly full glass of red wine, spilling the entirety of the contents onto my white t-shirt and light blue over shirt.

Now this sort of thing happens to be very crisp. Very good actually. Now this sort of thing happens to be relatively frequently. I'm six foot five and I feel like my brain hasn't quite understood where my limbs end. So I'm often knocking things over, tripping up, or my personal favorite, walking into door frames, I've misjudged.

So my initial reaction was just laughter, which my wife joined in. But before the realization, I might what might have to walk around central London and go to the theater looking like a pewter Merle down my front had kicked in a staff member appeared by our table immediately assess the situation and asked if we had plans for the evening. I told him we go to the theater. And he said, Don't worry, we'll get

this sorted. This is remarkable, by the way. Okay. Then he asked to take my over shirt Which he said he'd wash and dry and asked me what size t-shirt I wore I told him and he disappeared off into the back a few minutes later another server come over and offered us a full carafe of wine on the house for our trouble I couldn't believe it but as I was still wearing the wine soaked t-shirt at this point I had nothing to lose So we tucked into the free wine gladly We ordered desserts and soon enough another 15 15 minutes later, a different staff member

reappeared with a pristine white t-shirt they'd just bought from Uniqlo, almost identical to the one I'd just redecorated. I went to get changed and they handed me the shirt which the first server had hand washed and hung in a hot room they had at the back. The job they'd done on it was amazing and after changing I looked almost as if nothing had happened. Naturally gave them a healthy tip and went round to the staff members who helped, shaking their hands and thanking them profusely. So the moral of the story is if you want to get some free wine and a sea shirt, get yourself down to Blacklock Covent Garden and spill some shit on yourself. Can I shut up? Blacklock? Blacklock is... I've been spoken about Blacklock.

This is incredible, right? Remarkable, Tom. Remarkable. Right? We've spoken about Blacklock before, right? You know the head chef of Blacklock is a massive wolf and owl fan. I did not know that. I went there. Remember I said a few episodes ago, many episodes ago, I talked about going to a restaurant in Comet Garden and The head chef there absolute legend of a man sent over some I was in meeting with a film person and he sent over some dishes and The people I was with lost their mind because he was sent to sending out stuff off menu and he another great podcast But yes, so the head chef is

Yes, so the head chef there is a Black Rocker, he's an absolute legend of a man. And this does not surprise me that everyone there is. There's a beautiful, lovely little restaurant. Well there you go. Meat by the way, I mean this isn't for you, but the meat there is I'd say second to none in London. Well there you go. It was incredible to see how above and beyond they went. They didn't make a fuss or make it seem like a big deal. They didn't even seem to expect to be thanked. I was truly impressed. Faith in Humanity in the service industry in London restored. Love the pod. Thanks for the entertainment. Hope you find the story interesting. Clumsy Polar Bear, thanks for email. Big shout out to Black Lock. Can I say by the way, do you think one of the

waiters thought that they might have knocked over the wine and that's why they were so... Well it feels a bit weird that they've given them free wine doesn't it? And also just the level that they went. mean that is I've never heard of any Do you know what this actually this takes the gloss off the story a little bit? If one of them thinks they walk past and yeah, cuz cuz I'm You go further into say maybe there's something they do all the time the fact that they knew what to do Maybe I like the put black lock and known for spilling. Actually, do you know what? Fuck you, Blacklock. No, I'm just kidding.

As somebody very, very clumsy themselves. Codding, knocking things over. All in the buff and the polar bear. Like to knock a whole glass of water off, a glass of wine over yourself. I've done it to Catherine, by the way, cover. Never had that sort of thing where people have looked after her to that extent. Might just get somewhere in the napkin,

but maybe that's gone, no one could have knocked over a wine from there all over themselves. So one must must have been the other. Yeah, so they've assumed that it's so impossible. They've seen the scene of the crime and they've gone, yeah, that must be, someone else has done that and no one's owning up to it, maybe. Yeah, that must be someone else has done that and I was only up to Maybe yeah, I think you're probably right. I told you about when we were at the restaurant another

Meat restaurant in London and someone drops a whole tray of meat all over one of the people were with No, you didn't tell me about that. We were probably dead. I forgot. I got my into the gap show Cut the years ago and we were and we have one person with us who was a vegetarian He didn't really want to go to get show was quite Cut the years ago and we were we have one person with us who was a vegetarian Who didn't really want to go to capture was quite? Openly like we I don't know what we're going to but everyone else wanted to go to this place And there was a girl who's her first day as a waitress So she is the first time she brought they bring over the meat for you to choose your piece of clay And she was quite nervous and she brought over and she dropped it all over our friend

It's like in the hair, it was like all down his ears. And she sort of was trying to get it out and sort of like, she had some sort of like, but making it worse, just smudging blood all over her. It looked awful as well because it looked like she'd been involved in some kind of sort of like attack. It was just covering everything. I've got to be honest, it doesn't feel like

you were dripping in empathy. At the time it was, also, it was very funny in. Obviously, it doesn't feel like you were dripping in empathy. At the time, it was very funny at the time. There was a cup of beers in, it was sort of like a bit of a... Yeah, I don't think that is funny. I mean, just to put it in your friends, your friend has made an ethical choice to not eat dead animals, and then she's had them dropped all over her, and then the people that she's with find it really hilarious. At the time I jumped up and I was trying I was picking up

steak and helping. And eating it yeah. Like a liver king. What would you do in that situation as a sort of open and proud vegan? Would you laugh? Would you berate the person or would you? Well look, do I want meat thrown over me? No, but she's not done it on purpose. And also I think if we'd been angry, because the woman I happened to by the way was upset but she wasn't at all. Yeah, so you've got to try and lighten it a bit haven't you for the sake of the member's start. Yeah, because the poor waitress looked absolutely mortified and then when someone from the table went oh my god, she's the only vegetarian here

That's the worst first thing to happen to I mean that feels like a mad thing to say to be in hindsight not even in hindsight foresight in current side That you think about first you shout. I think it's probably Tom Davis. Yeah. You really are in some ways a piece of shit. I've got piece of shit tendencies. Yeah, you you you flirt with bin. You're piece of shit curious. I'll buy a piece of shit curious is how I describe it. I'm by piece of shit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right, Tomo. It's about that time, my G. What? Do you mind taking us out of this, Tim? Well, I find myself in a precarious place where

what vice and what seldom thoughts rush through the brain that we call my own? Leaves and trees and wonder, bricks and mortar friend, are they here, all here forever? It's a funny thing, through the leaves that have formed now, these summer months that sit so boldly upon the branches, they'll come a day where they fall towards the south so I was literally jumping off the back of you know I love that you've taken over the trees that sit so proudly for the branches almost resembling the bricks that we see around making a wall of green nay red nay orange at times they look as

proud as any wall built by the hand of man, cemented as such. But at some point they should fall towards the ground. See in nature nothing's forever. In nature things change, seasons evolve, things grow taller, some things fall, some things hold on. I guess that's just like life in a sense. All of us are ever changing. None of us are made of bricks and mortar. Solace unless you believe the guy that I met the other day on the moors who believes that actually bricks and stones have personalities.

We've had a couple of emails in support of that, by the way. Oh, good. We should talk about that next week. of emails in support of that by the way. Oh good we should talk about that next week. You look so cute when you did that. Your cuteness bar went up. Anyway, I digress. Just looking at my cute co-host. The truth of it is this, none of us have built the bricks of war We're ever changing ever evolving So if you see a wall that you like and go Call me brick wall because I'm solid. No friend. You're more like a royal oak See none of us in flap more and all of us could be cut down

Some branches will fall some leaves will drop and a rhythm or a threat and that's all If I was with you this is quite tough one anyway Because I didn't mean I was gonna say and this feels like this is the most you've ever Interrupted in any of the closest features And I've never seen you so close to the camera I was just think I was just great. So scripts. what can I tell you? Okay, let me just give a better. Let me give a better because the people deserve more. Okay. Okay. You're more like a royal oak strong for baiting. But friend, even a royal oak can fall. So don't judge yourself on falling. Nay, the days that you lose your leaves or your branches will.

Judge the days in which you're strong, which you feel the strength of any wall or any house or any man-made building. Know this, the strongest part of you will sometimes be the weakest and vice versa. It's all a journey. It's all a body. So enhance, embrace and be. But I mean, it's definitely longer. Okay.

The river runs through my favorite of the films. Yeah. Let's watch that again. Robert Redford. Shout out the guy. Thank you so much. Listen to the the wolf in our podcast, JT, could you play us out with a track from you little? I never do this. But can I ask everyone, every every listener who's listening to this on Wednesday morning, to grab as much positive energy as you can, and throw it toamesh and Charlie and the Ranganathans for the outcome of the hearing.

So when you're listening to this, I want you to just channel any thought and go, yo, Romm, Charlie, this is positive energy for the secondary school hearing. And also, if you've got any other positive, if there's any more, a little bit you can break off for Ramesh to win the cool dad competition competition he's got running on his house on Friday yeah that'd be great and you sort of equal amounts of goodwill for both of those

but I care about them equally JT could you play us out with a song from Little Sims new album Lotus if the track is hollow it's a great album. It's a Romi recommend. Thank you so much for listening. We'll see you next time. Bye bye! Like one leech, your presence is far from a treat They ask why I'm starving the streets, this nigga trying to hold my shit up I'll never forget what you told me, give up, and that my big dreams were far from a reach And then I broke the tie of the moral sign to the beach To the beach If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all, please email us at wolfalpod.gmail.com. That's wolfalpod.gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you, mainly because we don't have any content ideas.

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