Wolf and Owl - S4 Ep 3: Restaurant Debates & Celebrity Photos

Episode Date: January 15, 2025

First up, it’s very welcome return visit to the pod from the Squirrel - who gives Tom his review of the latest Sonic The Hedgehog film. Big up the Squirrel! Then it’s on with the rest of the show and we’re talking… defending Robbie Williams, Tom working for the AA, round two of the pre-ordering in restaurants debate, when to back down in an argument (or not), gigging together, celebrity photo walls and a load of confusion about The Masked Singer. Plus, we answer emails about another name for beardstaches and some advice on having to be away from your home and family for a long time. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Mighty Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Okay, welcome to the Wolf and I podcast with me, Ramesh Ranganathan and Tom Davis. And look, I've had a request I'm gonna call him in now he's known in these parts as a squirrel Charlie oh my god Charlie in you come what a moment right I'm gonna give you that so Charlie is so basically I've asked Charlie Charlie wasn't sure what to say on the podcast but he did want to come on okay so I'm gonna do sit sit down. So cool. I'm Charlie. I like this look. Yeah, I'm gonna give him the headphones It's got a wutang t-shirt. Look at this. Oh my god I'm gonna give him the tea

I'm gonna give him the headphones and he's gonna tell you today Tom we went to watch Sonic 3 So Charlie said he's gonna give you a breakdown any questions you got for him, and then I won't be able to see so jump in whenever Okay, Charlie ready. Yeah, okay. Go for it my god Charlie Charlie regulation. How you doing up in the house you well? Sorry hit me how was Sonic 3 tell me about it was it good? Yeah, it was good. Yeah, what was your favorite? What do you mean you've got? Probably I don't want to say, Sonic and Shadow fighting probably. Is that the best bit?

Yeah. Who do you think your dad's most like in a film? Er, Tails. Oh, that's cute. Tails is a cute character. Would you say that I'm Sonic and your dad's Tails? Yeah. Yes, my guy.

I love you for that, Charlie. Charlie, how is New York? All right, say thank you to Tom and say thanks to listeners. Just quickly, what's your favorite thing about New York? Hit me up. The food. Oh, that's what I like to hear. You're a man after my own heart. Charlie, go well. Thank

you my friend. I'll speak to you soon. Thanks. Big love mate. Bye. Okay, thanks. Bye. See you mate. Bye bye Charlie. Bye.

That was a squirrel everybody, so he wanted to come on. He's a big fan of the podcast. Awesome. I'm a big fan of him. One thing that we love... He said that... What did you say? I asked him about Sonic the film and he said the character you and I saw his tails and I said who would I be like would I am I Sonic to your dad's tails he went yeah okay did he really say when you listen back to it I'm pretty by the way with food with it I'm gonna jump right into this I will say right if I ever needed you to be a character witness in any case

I would be sure you did and then quit you were on an American podcast, right? Yeah, Chris. What was it? What's it called? Oh, this is Chris de Stefano. Yeah legendary comment Yeah, Chris de Stefano massive massive move by the way, that's incredible. Right? I would say he is a massive American star He still hasn't got as many followers as you have as you have an Instagram so that's saying something my guy yeah but I don't think Instagram followers means anything yeah I'm just saying I mean I can hope it doesn't because I'm behind the N8 but anyhow they basically went in a little bit on the the Robbie Williams film and I actually thought watching you I was

so proud of you for you did such a stunning job of like defending Robbie in that scenario well because you could have put a kick in could I just say the comedian it'd have been an easy goal for you and you didn't and I rate that. No well I mean I love Chris he likes asking he likes putting you on the spot so that's why he asked that's why he asked About Robbie Williams because in a minute, I'd already seen it in America. They're going who's Robbie Williams I know what be I like what be he's a good guy some of the stuff I've seen I felt like so upset because but it's hard isn't it because I Actually, generally think it's a very inspired thing, the monkey

thing. I think it's like, I thought it was a pretty cool fucking decision to go with that. Good director and stuff. But like, I think doing a bio fit picture of anyone when they're still alive is kind of crazy, right? Yeah, well, I mean, I think that's why it makes sense to have it as a monkey, right? Yeah. It's sort of, but like, I mean, they did it with Elton John, Taran Egerton played... Oh no, that's sick. but like I mean they did it without and John Taron edge So that's a good film played out and John in that and that that was done really well, but like It was difficult. It wasn't difficult. I

The thing that I did find difficult is even though I know that Robbie's a massive star And I'm trying to pitch it to an American and a group of Americans because there's a couple of other guys in there I don't know that much, you know, like beyond The brief history i'm not the guy to go to to convince you why robbie williams should have a film, right? So I just said what I thought but um, but thank you for saying that I thought it was a standing job. I actually I liked and you know, this is the saddest thing of it I and I know robbie I'd have felt so I don't know if I'd have bit down as well as you did in that scenario I was very very like what in defending or

Yeah, I've met him on other occasions he's a really decent got a lovely guy I mean like he's a lovely boy. Yeah, but like I just thought yeah I thought fucking cuz I've seen so many things where people are going in on him and it feels quite harsh if I'm gonna say yeah, I Business we're all in right. I mean it is yeah face I mean that that's that that's the problem of like listen. This is like like, you know Chris was half taking the piss but he was just like hitting on a Thing that Americans have been so in Chris. I'm this is not me having to go Chris, because that's a relevant

question, right? Because he's got an Englishman on his podcast. Yeah. And then- Not according to, not according, by the way, not according to some of the guys in this podcast. Yeah. Can I say, you told me to let through- Can I just, can I, a couple of the, did you look through the comments?

Yeah, because you told me to, I'm basically so angry, I feel sick. Here's one of them, here's one of them, I can smell him through the screen, that's one of them for you there. Why is he saying as a British man this is my take on Robbie Williams when he clearly isn't? That was another one. Wow. It's mad, it's mad, anyway, it's, look, all I can say is America's got some.

Has it helped you shift some tickets? Some of the same issues. So, shift some tickets? I don't know. But it was fun, and I'll probably jump on the podcast again. I know that you just had one. Wow, by the way, by the way, by the way, by the way, you've done a standing job until you just went,

I'll probably jump on the podcast again, I imagine. I'll probably jump on the podcast again. Listen, I know that, and I'm surprised there isn't blood coming through your jacket from the wounds that I inflicted on you after your summary of London. Can I say, by the way, Miles Cain, I think it was, came in at me on a comment that was all my, the comments, by the way, Miles Cain, I think it was, came in at me on a comment that was almost, the comments, by the way, this week are insane. Number one, Miles Cain is like double down in like, I'm fucking,

you've absolutely destroyed a right-winging thing, right-winging future. Like, I said a cringey thing, Miles Cain's gone in two-footed, like I'm like, some sort of like, yeah, like literally, he literally fucking beheaded and you take And then there's this woman at the moment who seems to think that you're doing a podcast where you talk to People from garrison like she generally. Oh my god. Okay. Let's Let's talk about this because because First first thing that happened was I saw Like, you know when you get notifications on your phone Because the first thing that happened was I saw,

like you know when you get notifications on your phone, the first notification was your reply to this woman, right? And it said, this is actually a bit of a side hustle. And I was clipped on it, thinking it was you talking about mandrel protein. I was about to go in and you were talking about you. Oh, shout out, mandrel protein. First shout out I just had. Yeah.

Didn't want to do it myself. Yeah, big old mandrel protein. Let's, okay, let's talk about that we'll talk about that in a minute but but but then it was her saying is I'm pretty sure this is a guy that changed the tire for me via the AA the other day and you said and it actually made me laugh your reply was yeah that's actually a little side hustle of mine it would really help me out if you gave me a positive review on the website. And then I thought, well, that's a funny response.

And then she replied, I will do, you couldn't have been more helpful. And then I'm like, hold on, has she bluffed the bluffer here? No, no, no. Or does she actually think you changed her tyre? That's what I can't figure out. No, no, no, this woman doesn't think you changed her tire? That's what I can't figure out. This woman doesn't follow me. She clearly has no idea. So she probably thinks, oh look, it's Ramesh Ranganathan. He's talking to like, for some reason he's got the guy who fixed

my tire who works for the AA. Like you do a podcast where you just talk to people who sort of like, I don't know, work for the road traffic control or whatever, I don't know, like different people and different jobs. It's insane. And she's still not following me by the way. So as an AA guy, I can't have been that good. If I'd done that good a job, then she'd found me on Instagram. She's probably in the middle of, do you know, there's a guy that works for the AA who was in Wonka. Imagine if she'd have thought you were, Paddington as well. Imagine if she'd have thought you were a guy from, you were a guy from the AA. Imagine the confusion of thinking that you changed her tie and then clicking onto your profile and seeing what else you've been up to.

See, also by the way, we were actually blown away when she found out that I can't drive. So I'd probably be the worst person ever to work for the AA. Yeah, I'll be there in about four and a half hours. It's 20 minutes from my house, but I can't drive, so I have to walk. I see conditions. I will tell you this, Tom, I know you can't drive, and it's been your New Year's resolution

to try and get yourself a driving license. Yeah. I would say, as driving experiences go, and I'm saying this as a bloke, I can't even imagine what it's like to have this happen as a woman, but the breakdown and wait for a recovery up there with the bleakest experiences you can have

in modern life in this country. Yeah, it's just, I had it happen to me when I was doing a gig at Up The Creek and I pulled up outside Up the Creek Comedy Club, and I sort of clipped the curb as I pulled in. But I didn't think anything of it. I thought, oh, I'll probably scratch the wheel or something.

Who cares? And then as I did the gig, finished, jumped in the car, drove off, and as I drove off, I sort of felt like I thought I heard a bit of a noise. But I had the music on, so I wasn't entirely sure. A guy knocks on my window, like a guy on a moped, I rolled the window and it goes, your tire's completely shredded.

So I just pulled into this side road in Greenwich somewhere. Oh man. I didn't have a spare. At that time I'd bought a car that didn't have a spare, or didn't have any of those, like one of those, which is illegal, but I'm fully aware it's illegal. And then I was just sat in this side road in Greenwich for I think it was two and a half hours

waiting for this guy. It's terrifying. And like you say, if you're a woman on the road. Yeah. I mean, I think this might not be right. I'm pretty sure they'll prioritize you if you're a woman and rightly so. Is it like, also it'd be nice if you could just go to someone's house and sit like if there was like

people Locally to every area who and that's a place you can go and nominate yourself as a Yeah, like and then you'd like something like the AI or the police come and vet you know They seem a sort of well not the place because obviously they can't vet themselves. Yeah Fucking Christ, okay Wow I smell Instagram clip also also also a chef waiting on you. Did you say that? No Do you know what in the last in 2025 I've had a lot more trolling it seems like there's sort of yeah

Rolling basically. It was like Jim when I said I went to I can't find it now I can't be bothered to go and find it but You know Ellen's start, you know the diner and I said we're to choose our meals in advance so the point he made was if you have a hundred covers and You're asking people to choose Right. Yeah, so let's look at starters alone with the e-theta the mass So basically if you're saying to everybody you can have whatever starts you want out of five choices That means you have to make 500 starters, right?

Okay, and you have to do the same for main courses and the same for desserts, depending on how many choices you've got. On the off chance, and you will definitely get wastage because people aren't going to have all, they're going to choose one of those. But 100 colors at the same time, right? Look, I get it.

That might have been the silly idea. Just then do two, do do one meeting one do one vegetarian Okay, but don't wait. Okay. I just think the choice thing like in October for a Christmas dinner How do you feel about how do you what it's very difficult to predict with you? Right, because I'm gonna say this here. There are some moments When you are willing to fully hold your hands up and say, I'm wrong, I'm wrong. This is in a moment that I'm wrong.

I will say. But by the way, by the way, there are other, but there are other times and they are not based on merit, by the way, it's completely unpredictable what you decide to double down on. So sometimes you'll fold fucking ASAP and other moments you suddenly decide you're not going to back down on it. ASAP and other moments you suddenly decide you're not gonna back down on it like and Might I remind you your steadfast refusal to give Tom Packman a shout out, right?

Which blew up in your face quite horrifically later on right? Despite things like that happening. You still insist on just randomly. I know what's up here You've just gone. Do you know what? This is gonna be one of the ones I don't back down on and so now you decided to like go Look, not every battle is a war not every war is winnable. Right Tom. Patman I will tell you now in the life and times of Tom Davis was one of the most Embarrassing humiliating things that I've done. I'm not asking. I'm not It was bad Right Patman's a good man. We adore Patmanman right Patman and me have built a lot of bridges

Bridges across the ocean my friend bridges across he's not he's not had to build any bridges I feel the bridges. There's been no construction required from his side. Listen, he knows Tom Patman hole in my heart for a long time and it's I've been back in there and he leaches stuck him back in my heart It was a good place to be right the point Yeah, I'm not backing that like this is hang up But can I say by the way I've been I've been contacted about this by numerous people who also feel the same, okay? Right it look. This is one of those things man. It's it's like, you know, you are so you top number, your man, you know, your man city, who do you say? Like you can't, you know, no, no, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. No, like for battles like this. No, you're listen, you and

the people that agree with you. Okay. I'm just going to say this. You don't giggle because I know you're trying to fucking wind me up. All right. You okay it would you would it be nicer to turn up and choose your meal on the thing yes of course it would yeah is it feasible no all right is it fair on the rest you can't handle a hundred covers on Christmas over Christmas of an evening break it down to 50 yeah because, because they're fucking, they're rolling in money restaurants, aren't they? No, no, just so you do it. What is wrong with you? And then, well, after this, there'll be, there'll be, no, do you know, there'll be a news report

that comes out about fucking restaurants, which, which they are, by the way, cost a living crisis and all that, restaurants closing left, right and centre, and you'll be here going, do you know what? What a shame. Do you know what I feel, what, you know, the government, they talk all this shit about whatever save the restaurants you've got to save the restaurants I will tell you now I adore restaurants I adore the people who like it listen nothing you have said for the last on this episode and the previous suggests that you love restaurants the sentence the sentence

you're looking for is I like eating at restaurants. That is the correct sentence. What else are you going to do at a restaurant? I like theme parks but I don't like rides. No. It's not like that at all. No, no. It's not.

I am saying to you if you liked restaurants you'd have a bit of fucking respect for the people that run them and work with them. I have all the respect. The one thing I don't respect is the pick your meal before you go. That's all it is. Yeah I know but yes but what I'm the point I'm trying to make to you Tom is that is one small sacrifice you're making on a New Year's Eve thing. Not New Year's Eve because we didn't go. Fake news, fake news. Christmas not New Year's fine, but we weren't talking about we would I'm I was telling you about New Year's that okay. Yeah, you talk with that's when you That's what we've been talking about. Yeah, that's what we've been talking about. Yeah, that's what we took about this whole time

Well, okay, right. Let me say you and you yeah, okay, so I'm gonna end here, right Let me say you and you yeah, okay, so I'm gonna end here, right? If we can get a chef on here and we can just chat over this whole thing Right this whole debacle and they can convince me then I will give a humbled apology Oh back down and I will Always always just every I will be the person in a room when someone says something about Pre-ordering I will go. Hey in a room when someone says something about pre ordering I will go Hey man, listen, I used to be like you. But I spoke to a chef on a podcast that not everyone knows to do called the wolfing out with the comedian actor and

presenter and stand up comedian, Romesh Ranganathan. He's also an incredible human being. Sir, the soleil go and watch when he defended Robbie Williams. It's awe-inspiring. Anyhow. What's that got to do with Cirque du Soleil? I don't know. I was looking for another word, couldn't think of it. So I thought Cirque du Soleil actually sounded quite good. So you thought you'd name the acrobatic circus group? Yeah, I just thought I'd throw that in. Right?

Okay. I was like, yeah, and I was naive. And then we had a chef called, I don't know, Bob Diopazzo, I was like, yeah, and I was naive. And then we had a chef called, I don't know, Bob Diopazzo, who came onto the podcast and he made me feel like a piece of scum. So I was wrong. Yeah, but do you understand you're talking from a position of privilege?

Why, for you to be convinced of something, do we have to get a professional chef to speak to you? Why can't you just accept? This is the thing, right? We've had a chef message you. Yeah, but then you were going to go on this big political writing, right? Really put your foot in, and I can't really be bothered to look for the tweet or the Instagram message. So I was like, oh, it can't be that poor. Now it seems it is really poor.

No, it's not. No, it's... Okay, look look let me read it to you all right I'm gonna read it to you now because you've been like you've been a little shit now okay hold on a sec. Can you give me his name as well? Yeah I will do. Shit I can't find it. Well he's deleting it. Maybe he has. Oh, well. Bear with me, bear with me. I think he's got rid of it. I think it's gone. Maybe he felt like it was a bit... Harsh? Well, look, I'm going to say the tone of it was pretty front-footed,

but I do think I do agree with the sentiment. Well, look, if he'd kept it up there and I'd been able to read it, I'd probably... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, I'm sure you would have done. Anyway, how have you been? Good, good. You know what highlighted the lake? Guess what it was gone. Seeing you, you by the way, a very inspiring guy when I was watching you do your new material

I don't do you have you know you had some banging moments It's fucking incredible to see me and red sat there pissing ourselves And after I was like literally that sets the bar in like in anything like that when you see someone like yourself garp and like Hit that level. I'm like, all right Me with a notebook mate. It was so fucking you are so can I say by the way? Yeah, I'm like, oh right. There was no level, it was me with a notebook. Mate, it was so fucking, like, you are, can I say by the way, I adore your humbleness, I think it's incredible, but you are so fucking talented. It's actually quite frustrating.

You make very po, like, very poignant points. You're able to make things funny that actually, that I'm not able to, I tried at the end to go a bit deeper with what what my source of humor and I was like oh shit yeah I've found out one it found wanting here somewhat even had to say to you after can you help me with that bit someday. By the way I need to shout out there was a group of women who came to that gig, very, very, very over the moon to see you. You were a complete surprise, obviously unlisted, but were very, very, very sweet before the

gig about my... I was quite nervous. I was trying to write material and they were very lovely. So I wanted to shout them out because it was a very nice thing that they did. Shout out to all that. It was nice to see. Look, your stuff was great. I'm not going to accept this. It was a very nice nice thing that they did. Yeah, it's nice to see you Your stuff was great. All right, I don't I'm not gonna accept this. It was great stuff and we had a nice time It's nice to gig with you. It happened. So rarely I enjoyed it Also, we're talking about while we're talking about as people have been asking about the wolf and owl live dates

And I can say that that's all still they are happening But they've not been confirmed yet as in exactly when and where they're taking place. So as soon as they are That we will distribute actually and while we're doing more for now admin The other thing we need to talk about is the calendars. I've been asked. Yes, who I've been asked We've been asked the calendars are reduced obviously because we're motoring on to February now aren't we and they are a reduced price on the website also by the way exciting news that the wolf and our t-shirts we've that the party

Rom t-shirts we've a sold out or they're either they've sold out or if you're looking near a skip somewhere you'll see a shit ton of them You can just pick up for free One of those two things has happened why can't I? Based on my based on my settlements. I don't think they sold out is what I'd say We had a load of those done because party wrong was such a big thing for a while Wasn't it you really if I could have Had a bet on one piece of merch really flying. It would have been the party wrong was massive

Pretty but three months of party wrong thing like I mean I do that version of wrong I think that version of wrong might be dead now You still not drinking you still? Pretty much. Yeah, I've had I think I had one over New Year's. Maybe one or two, but pretty much. What about you? Yeah, I haven't touched a drop. I did go out for the Radio 2 Saturday morning show Christmas lunch on Saturday.

Oh wow. After the show. And went to a restaurant called, have you heard of a restaurant called Sergio's? No. and went to a restaurant called have you heard of a restaurant called Sergio's No So Sergio's is an Italian restaurant Just near near I can't know exactly where it is, but it's just around the corner from the BBC and

They whenever anybody of Any celebrity guys in there they take a photo of them put it on the wall. Oh man that's my dream to be on one of those walls. Well not only is every inch of the wall covered with famous people that have been there they've got screens with like moving slideshows of them and stuff like that. Are you on there now? Well so as you know and I'm not saying this out of faux humility I did not want

it to happen. Right. So what? Why? That's a message. That's like one of the biggest accolades you can get in life. Like, can I just say, well, there's an Italian restaurant here, just, um, uh, off, uh, Piccadilly Circus. Great place. Yeah. I go there sometimes. I love, we'd have a bit of food, me, the wife, uh wife Little G and I will look at the other people who've and I'll be like fucking out bill night Eight here he could have sat on this table. Yeah, Tom Cruise eight here. Do you mean it's the same? like the thought of someone going into an Italian restaurant going Chatting about stuff. Oh, you know, oh by the way, I I

Completed bridge bridge club this week. What the fuck? Oh my god, look over there. Ramesh Ranganathan sat on this table. That's him on this table. He's eating Pasta Arrabbiata. That is so Ramesh. Yeah, but obviously, you know, my fear and my natural reaction is somebody just going, just in the middle of eating, going, you all right? They just sort of sit back.

I go, you all right, mate? And I can't fucking finish this. Well, I thought, I fucking hate that prick. Are you telling me, not only can I not escape this wanker on the television, I can't even escape him when I'm having my fucking lasagna. But can I just say, I adore you, I love you, and you know that. I don't think that either me or you carry the kind of weight for sort of hate or love that would know that's true That's a table at a very fancy Italian restaurant to not finish their meal I think there's a few people that sort of mark that oh no sorry sorry sir

Let me be clear what I was doing was I was doing a bit and using a bit of comic exaggeration I didn't realize that what what you thought I was doing was doing was a realistic depiction of what would happen in actual life. Sorry. You know, when I do the bits, I thought we were just doing them to be funny. So was the sauna thing, was that actually how you thought that would go down when we did it? What the fuck are you talking about?

Lovie, you were very earnest when you did that bit. I didn't mind when you did the bit in the restaurant. I just thought it would be unrealistic. Somebody who's going to be paying for their meal wouldn't stop halfway and not finish the rest of it. Who the fuck are you? The way that you said it was so early. Yeah, yeah.

But also I was trying to build up your self confidence. No, that's not what you did. No, no, no, no, no. Don't start building up my self confidence. Nobody would hate you like that, Rob. You said nobody would have a strong enough opinion to not finish their meal. I said, by the way, of both of us, me or you, I'm not on any wills. You're on a wall now. Did they do the picture, by the way? On the way out, of us, me or you, I'm not on any walls. You're on a wall now.

Did they do the picture by the way? On the way out they asked for a photo. Oh mate. I'm gonna go in there. It wasn't at the table, it was outside the restaurant. Can I go in there and look at the picture? They didn't say they were putting it up, they just said can we get a picture?

I would petrol bomb the place if you go in there and you find your picture's not up there. Oh that feels like an extreme reaction Tom. You've never petrol bombed anywhere before that feels like a bit over the top. So you're telling me, am I expected to believe that if they didn't put my photo up you would go and you would get petrol and you would put it in a small canister, set it alight and throw it at the restaurant? Do you see what I'm doing? Didn't send the point I'm making. I enjoy it, I enjoy it, because you know what,

I've sent some fucking really outlandish stuff to you over the last four years. This has been the thing that's really, the goose that's got your gander. You've really bit on this, so I quite like it. No, can I say what I want? I do think there has to be, on those pictures, they have to sort of stop, rotate them.

Sometimes you go in and it's someone like, I've been to a cafe, the picture of Ronnie Cray on the fucking wall. Yeah. Well, there's a couple of people. They're Paul Young up there, and they're almost certainly 20 years apart, the photo. What, two pictures of Paul Young?

No, the same photo and they digitally aged it. Yes, two separate photos of Paul Young. That's selfish of Paul. What do you mean, it's selfish of Paul Young? No the same photo and they digitally aged it. Yes two separate photos. That's selfish of Paul. What do you mean it's selfish of Paul? No Paul Young should get one. So he had the same restaurant twice 20 years ago. No no but he's got two pictures up. That could be someone else. He's not asked for that. He's not asked for that. What about Chico? He's on every wall by the way. He must have gone to every restaurant in London. He might have been on there but I didn't see him. I've seen Chico at least eight. Do you know Chico?

You know Chico's from Crawley, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, big noise, right, from Crawley at one point. Do you know him, or? No, no I don't. Do you teach him? He's about, are you, is that a serious question? No, of course he's not serious.

Did you teach Chico? question You've got me all fucking hyped up now, can I say that she does feel that he might might have been kept back a couple years Let's call the high when he was 28. Well done mate. Never gave up GK, you stuck through it son. Do you watch Marth Singer? No, but I've been inundated with people asking if I'm the bear. Yeah, I've been asked if I'm the bear.

You well. Yeah. So I got myself into, so I'm going to give him a shout out because he's a big fan of the podcast. So this is from, oh here we go, Darren Bateman, right? He says, I get a message from, and this is what, because it immediately triggered me because I thought, shit, have I got myself into a situation here?

Because it's full disclosure, I love Joel Domet, love Jonathan Ross, but the show is not something I thought, shit, have I got myself into a situation here? Because it's full disclosure, I love Joel Domet, love Jonathan Ross, but the show is not something I watch, right? That's just full disclosure, okay? Okay. I get a message going, Romesh, you've pissed Macy Gray off, right? Oh. So now I'm thinking he's watched a video where Macy Gray has seen something I've said or whatever,

like maybe the Robbie Williams thing, because loads of Robbie Williams fans were pissed off about that whole exchange. Why? You were really decent. No, but one they were saying, I said he was quite big and he's actually the biggest selling UK. I didn't know that.

So like, they're saying that, you know, and then I- Oh, by the way, by the way, I'm gonna stick up for you here. If you said, right, got even said he's quite big Well, that's keeping a nice humbleness to it. You go. He's the biggest selling artist in the UK Yeah, you'd have gone in on you and him even worse. Yeah, that was damage limitations I mean people sometimes people need to fucking relax. You know, I mean like they just need to just sometimes Like I do think by the way, I think this is partly your fault

I'm getting a bit like this now because I feel a little bit like my heckles are up Okay, but if this desire to have everything you see Express the exact same view that you have is so insane, right? Getting worked up when somebody on a fucking Instagram thing, on a podcast, doesn't say something exactly the way you want it to be said and you get wound up. Just fucking calm down. By the way, this is my favorite Ramesh. You did a bit the other day in the stand up.

Me and Red were fucking dying with laughter. And it was because you really had your heckles up. I think you're a brilliant presenter. I think you're great fucking Weakest things amazing. I love it when you get pissed off and a lot of the things That's what I think my relationship with you so much fun because one of those things you can get really about Anyway, Darren Darren Bateman who's a massive fan of the podcast said you've pissed Macy Gray off and I said did I because immediately I'm like I googled This is how much it triggered me. I googled like as Macy Gray said something have I fucked off Macy Gray because I love Macy Gray

All right. Yeah, and then he goes yeah, you've got to be the bear on my singer And then he said love the podcast. My first guest was Tom and Then he said although the fact that you've applied To find out how you piss Macy Gray off now makes me think it's not you So anyway, the point is I didn't realize it like you. I don't really watch the show. It's Again, everyone involved. I like I get on with but I literally get loads of mates message me You are the bear. You're definitely the bear. Tell me if the bear we can win some money, all this sort of stuff. So I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about. Then I put a picture up of a bear, of Barlu the bear on my Instagram, it's a joke, just

because I was getting so many messages. Then someone messaged me saying, oh, this is really fucking with people. If you are the bear, you shouldn't say, but if you're not the bear, you shouldn't say. I was like, the bear you shouldn't say I was like like I don't know how serious this thing is. I'm just having a laugh, but I didn't realize I'm the only actual show That someone actually could it was only we were out for dinner the other night and someone said oh no you Vicky McCoy and Moe Both turned around and said it's Tom Davis And then there's a picture of you that came up because obviously not many people knew who I was so that's for a picture No, they always put a picture. They always put a picture. Oh, okay. Yeah, but um, yeah

I mean, I've heard the guy sing he's got an incredible voice. Yeah My name out of running by the way, it isn't me. Yeah. Yeah, the reason I bring it up though is because It came down to the bear and the toad And it was like who they're gonna save and they decided to to the bear and the toad. And it was like who they're going to save. And they decided to save the bear. So we still don't know who the bear is. But the toad, as soon as they said, we're going to save the bear, the toad walked off.

What? Walked off, right? I think they had to go and get the toad. The toad came back, and the toad was Macy Gray. And then Macy Gray took her head off her toad head off obviously and then was just really pissed off for the whole time she was doing it for comic effects no I having said no I've not watched that show I've only watched clips but it looks like she wasn't happy about being I mean I guess and yeah it's gonna be a lot because Macy Gray's got an incredible voice if she feels for a second

They're the moment the front runners Tom Davis from Ramesh Ranganathan to who she's lost in a 16 contest Yeah, first of all should be thinking I don't Not heard any of these names ever so What the fuck's going on? And then they were like obviously like I'm you know, Lacey Macy Gray's got like a you know, she's a legend All right So they were sort of bigging her up and she was just not accepting any of the praise that she was not happy

Not happy at all. She's the first one out or no, I don't know. I don't even know how far along it is I just know that she was it was I said by the way Joel Domit, right? Yeah I do Joel Joel Domit is like an incredible clothes Or snaggy. You see he was wearing a suit with shorts, which should look ridiculous, but carry it off with a plump Yeah, is a I think it was because they were doing a summer holiday themed episode I don't think that was a just a pure sartorial choice To be able to carry that off is that's big moves Joel Well, I think you know if you've got look, you know, I'm not taking anything away from Joel

because it's difficult to get to this point, but if you've got a body fat percentage of 3.1, I think you can look good in pretty much anything, can't you, do you know what I mean? Yeah. If, I mean, Joel, Joel would. If me and you were wearing that, we would look like someone would go,

oh my God, like, get them back in the bus and send them back to the asylum. Yeah. It's just like. It wouldn't be something... I think people would say, look, this is a little bit too close to dinner time for you to be on TV and something like this.

He looks... Yeah. Yeah, it seems like a good show. Or maybe, you know what, I might start watching it from series one. Yeah, great shout. I don't think you need to watch it from series one. There's no narrative arc that you've got to follow. Yeah, go on, can you say one? Are you a fan of Dancing on Ice? Do you like Dancing on Ice?

Do I like Dancing on Ice? Is this a serious question? Yeah, I know. I'm starting. I don't dislike it, but I've never watched a single minute of it. Why do you ask? I just always think, like, of all of the things, like Mars senior, Streetly Come Dancing, The Jungle, all of the things. Ice skating is the fucking hardest thing and doesn't seem that as a show it doesn't seem to get the kind of respect that it should probably get. Look again I've watched bits of it and I'm always like fuck that's ice skating is fucking I've tried it on two different shows the one that hard if you can't if you got that you

know it's so fucking difficult and I'm like this feels like something It should probably get a little bit more props, but doesn't seem to get as much as Yeah, those shows. Yeah I mean, I just think that Maybe it's because TV shows don't get viewers based on how difficult the thing is Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah cuz because some shows are just, you know... By the way, Traitors this year, you watching it? No, I've not seen it yet.

Really? Yeah. Are you going to Celebrity Traitors? Pardon? Are you going to Celebrity Traitors? I couldn't possibly comment. Oh, I knew you'd be in there. I couldn't possibly comment.

Oh my God. By the way, I would give my right nut to go in there with you. I Think being you would be unstoppable as a team. Yeah. Well, you know, I can't It doesn't it doesn't matter to say Fucking I'm not doing you know, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing but I think the lineup for that's gonna be amazing But yeah, it will be it will be but I was by the way before this starts the thing. I'm not doing it I am I'm gonna say now Categorize this is not like I'm trying to keep a secret. I'm not doing it. Are you doing it? No No, I mean I could imagine you've been asked and said no, I've not

But I yeah, you know, I just love the show I think it's one of I think it's like Genuinely, it's one of those few shows that gets me really get like as you would say it gets my heckles up gives me rough already It's a really yeah. It's a beautiful piece of work Claudia Winkleman is a major I watched a lot of the first and well watch the first and second series. I'm not saying this like serious yet Shit, then nobody else can do it She's incredible. She's And she can tell us like her

Yeah She could be a great stat. Yes. She's brilliant. I love she would be great on Saturdays on radio 2 from 10 till 1 She's how you do that? By the way, How's it going? Why you asking like that? Your heckles are really up. I'm inquiring. Yeah, good. Yeah, I'm enjoying it. Yeah, I'm just fun yesterday. Yeah sweet Josh How is he? Is he good? Yeah, he's good. He's really good. Yeah Kick it off at all. It's got Josh Riddick. Oh, yeah Well, there's some people emailing in going why is Josh talking about his tour if it doesn't start till September? But you're supposed, I mean, I've talked about a tour

that's not going, that's not starting for another year before. Yeah, you've got to start getting those tickets bought, right? That's, yeah, I mean, I guess that's probably right. And it's a competitive market, baby, as we both know. I Just want to say I'm going through the emails We go through the emails on this podcast our accounts is fucking riddled

There's so much Just bullshit people just like scam emails Just all sorts. Okay Here's one that actually will lead to a little bit of discussion. I think okay The email is titled beard stash. Well, and it says this is from M Says surely we can find a better word lads. I'm suggesting bootash. Oh, wow. What do you think? I have a bootash, because if I do a tash and I'm fully shaved,

I start looking at Jag Brochers and thinking about joining the golf club. Although, what I would say is Jaguar, the whole bloody image of Jaguar has changed now. So I don't know. Anyway, the reason I bring it up is that I said it would lead to discussion is that Well, I am now trying to rock a beard stash or a boot ash

I think boot ash is amazing. Yeah, and then when I saw you at the gig the other night You'd sort of done like a I describe it as a mild boot ash. What would you? Because we were kickingging with Red Richardson, who is just full tash, right? And looks, and looks incredible with it. I mean, dashing, handsome. Red, by the way, yeah, he looks, yeah. And by the way, if you haven't seen his stuff,

he's hilarious on socials, but also, go see him live. He's like, brilliant. But anyway. If you go and watch his tour show, he's fucking, he smashed that kicker kick. It was amazing to watch. Anyway, look, I, I didn't know how prominent to go with my bootash. It's like you've yours is a work of art. It looks even more incredible in, in like, I've got to say the look you had, I'd stand up the other day. I'm like, Oh oh man I'm here for 2025 from a Schrodinger Nathan this guy's fucking licking it up nice. That was horrible but okay go on.

But you've really got to know how to put but by the way can I say because it was quite a nice moment that we all three of us had mustaches of boots well two boots hashes one proper mustache. There was I don't know why I brought up bringing this up because there was a moment of like, there was another guy with a mustache who came downstairs to sort of see where he put some glasses. He was in quite rude to the compare in a sort of way. He was quite humorous. I don't know, he didn't do it on purpose. No, he didn't, no, no, no. But yeah, it was an accident. But he was a mobra. He was another

mustache guy. But then it led to something that was, I hope I've made you laugh in the time we've been friends. I was arguably saying that the most I've ever seen you laugh is what happened just after he walked off with the, because the conversation then came to moustaches, one of the biggest moustache wearers in the world right now, Timothee Chalamet. And then, will you do it?

Because I think it's gonna be funny coming from you. Well, the discussion, who was it? Who was it that was being talked about? I can't even remember. We're talking about Timothee Chalamet. Yeah, but then who was it that was in the film? Ellie, Ellie White. So it came up that Ellie White was in Wonka.

And basically this story about, oh, because Ellie White was in Wonka, I don't know if you know Ellie White actually met Timothy Shalime because she was in Wonka. That's not what made me laugh. It was both the fact that nobody realized that you were actually in Wonka. It was more your reaction to that story being told.

The indignation with which she responded at the fact that That not everybody knew that you were in one car I mean you need someone who clearly watched the film Yeah, she even said to me later on that she'd watched it. I was like, how could I be that unnoticeable? Well, she must have just thought it's some fat Jew taking the piss out of Germans Well, she must have just thought it's some fat Jew taking the piss out of Germans That my performance is so fucking that that joke needs context If you don't know you didn't get that comment

Yeah, that's been a bad lot. But I'm a that guy's still going he's moved into my DMs with some stuff as well. Oh, that's good. Did you respond? No, of course I didn't. It was quite aggressive. That was a nice, yeah. But, bootash sounds good. I like the bootash. Okay. Wolf, Al, Swan, Cat. It's the bald eagle here. I have a question that I was hoping you could answer about spending time away from your families when you're on tour or filming abroad for extended periods of time. I'm currently writing this from a hospital ward at UCLH in London where I'm shortly having to clinical trial for a type of blood cancer which is I've suffered from for over 15 years. Lucky to dream that time all of my treatments have been local in Bristol and I've always been able to return home at the end of each session or treatment. This time, however, I need to spend over a month in hospital here in London where it would be quite risky for my amazing wife and two young boys aged four and ten to come and

visit me. I worry about how they will cope with me not being there on a daily basis, the extra pressure on my wife whilst I'm gone, and the emotional effects of all three of them with me being away from home going through quite a risky bit of treatment. My question to you both is, how do you both mentally prepare you both yourself and your families when you're off for weeks or maybe months at a time for filming or stand up tours? Grace, sorry, Tom, Grace is much younger, so I'm keen to hear

your thoughts, and my youngest does not understand why I'm not home. Also with your self-promise, with your boys older, is it easier for you to be further away for long periods? How has this affected your relationship, and do you have any advice for your arm locked down in a room for the next five to six weeks? Anyway, thanks so much for reading. I will be listening just like Elon Musk to your next pod. By the way, can we talk about your ass absolutely going about Elon Musk? By the way, yeah, I'm happy to. I'm going to tell you now, again you now, again. So we talked about Elon Musk.

Can I say, again, I'll give you props. You brought it up. I'm naive to, I don't look at X, I don't really look at that sort of part of the world. I hadn't read a lot of that sort of stuff. I was quite naive to it. I then, literally after the podcast, went into a rabbit hole, which I wish in a way

I hadn't, and sat and read a lot of stuff and looked at a lot of stuff that was being said and was like, oh my God. I didn't quite... My... I want full disclosure, by the way, whether we keep this in or not. My genuine thing was the stuff I'd read and stuff that I'd seen and some of it very like Aggressive in places my genuine was like if I got very paranoid about people or People listening to it and then you literally two weeks later going to America. Mmm where you were you worried about my safety, right?

about my safety weren't you? Yeah genuinely I was. I was like there was some stuff that you said. He might have listened. No no no. You were very complimentary about him. And can I take another opportunity to say that I think he's a great, he's a really great talented guy. I was more worried about you, that's what it was right. And also quite terrified about, yeah I was quite terrified about the whole, I mean it's where we are in the world right? It's a fucking terrifying place to be anyhow Do you have any advice? Firstly, I hope everything goes well and in the treatment that you have in yes and things turn out well And and and what you're doing and the time that you are spending away for your family proves to be worthwhile and also if they're Did you say that? It's a Thing that it's like a trial thing he's doing?

I don't know, he's getting a special treatment, I think. Yeah, anyhow, I hope that works. And everything goes well. Clinical trial, clinical trial, that's right. Clinical trial. So can I say that, yeah, that's an incredible thing you're doing as well, to part any sort of trial like that, when you don't, yeah.

So pray, hope that everything goes well. Um, I Find it. Yeah enormously hard. I think actually weirdly in the I think when I was on tour and Filming when gracious had you know first born and the first bit of the tour actually found wasn't too hard on the basis I don't think she you know, she really had any kind of, she didn't notice quite as much of how much I was away or, you know, the time, I don't think she had as much of a concept of time. And weirdly even just as silly as it sounds from

just from Christmas to now, like when I'm going, just going into work for the day, she's sort of questioning it when I'm, will I be back for bedtime, how long will I be at work? If I'm getting a bag in the morning, she gets a bit sad about daddy going to work and how long daddy will work for. So there's a part of me that starts to worry now about a few things that are coming up where I will be away from home a bit longer potentially. And that does, it's always a way. And I think, I turn to Rom in these moments sometimes because he's been doing this touring and what's not and being away for a bit longer, but also he's got kids that are a little bit older. I mean, if I'm going to be quiet on this as well, I'm being quite transparent. Grace at the moment is, I don't know what your boys were like at three. Everyone was

like the terrible twos. I actually thought the terrible twos was quite endearing and quite cute three nagers are fucking insane Can I say that she is going for time? I text one you know, I went to bed last night at 630 because she'd been up for the first last two nights before and Like a teenager who's coming back from a club is like she was she was on something. She was literally flipping between being really, really cool and chatty and just relaxed, so literally wanting to tear the house down. Oh, what the fuck is going on? This is insane.

Yeah, so anyhow, like being a white, yeah, and I think we're going away for work and we're going away. I think there's an element of what we do in the fact that we're economically away for work and we're going away. I think there's an element of what we're doing and the fact that we're economically or whatever, it's something that's our jobs. Whereas if you're doing something like you're doing, like as you say, it's a trial and it's about your health and it's about, obviously there's a risk to what you're doing. I think that's probably that little bit harder, a lot harder and and I can imagine you know having been with Katherine when she's been through quite a lot of had quite a lot of health issues and

Other family members, I think you know I my heart really goes out to you and your family because I think those are the times really when it matters the most to Come home with a night or a weekend and being away. I think it's gonna be tough for you It's gonna be tough for your wife, but I think it's going to be tough for you and it's going to be tough for your wife but I think hopefully all your missus but I think any kids and I think hopefully at the end of it it's all been worthwhile so yeah man my respect for you is unbound and I genuinely like good luck with it all and you know I think when it comes to boys it will is gonna be hard, but I think the fact is that About anything that you if you can go back being fit and healthy and everything that you're doing has been worthwhile and that month will seem Like a drop in the notion of infinite time. So yeah

Yes, great advice from Tom First of all, yeah echo Tom sentiments. I hope it it all goes well and I'm sure it must be incredibly nerve-racking for everyone involved. In terms of concrete advice, I have started trying to be away less. I know I've been away a fair bit, but I'm trying to balance it out. So, you know, I do go and do work, but whenever I've got something like that, I try and make sure I book a chunk of time off. And I know that it's a very privileged position to be in that I can do that. But how I think this can apply to you is, for me, if I know I'm going to be away or I'm going to have a period of like working really hard, I make sure, or Lisa and I try and make sure that we've got a period of doing some

really lovely family stuff together. That doesn't have to be expensive. It could be a holiday, but it doesn't have to be. It can be just you're going to spend time at home together and you're not doing anything else. You're just having proper quality time, board games, whatever, film night, whatever you want it to be, to make sure you've got quality time booked in because the truth is, I think you said your kids are four and 10. They grow up so quick,

so you want to make sure you maximize as much of that time as you possibly can. The other thing is because our kids are a bit older, they've got their own lives, you know, and our youngest is the same age as your eldest. But all three of them have got their own things going on. So sometimes when I phone, they're like doing stuff or they're busy or they're playing, and I don't want them to feel like they have to rush to the, I don't want them to resent speaking to me, you know,

if like their momums going to them No, you've got to stop don't play FIFA dads on the phone now And this is the time he's calling so you've got to come and speak to him And then you've got this kid sort of speaking to a sense of duty So what I tend to do is I record little video updates on my phone of what I've been up to on a day-to-day Basis or I'll show you show them what I'm, you know, so say for example, I arrived somewhere I'll go this what the room looks like this what I'm up to today Did it about you know, just give me like a little I guess like a little video door

I don't do it every day, but every like now and again, I'll send them a little video and then they can respond to it Whenever they want do you mean via their mom or you know, they've got they've got This is the first fucking incredible bit of advice. I'll take this. It's just a nice way of keeping in touch at your own convenience, do you know what I mean? But also, Grace will never ever FaceTime, man. But FaceTime, I don't mean FaceTime,

but then she loves watching, she'll sit and watch a video of me doing a silly voice or me doing something. Yeah, that's a brilliant bit of a voice. Yeah, so that's what I tend to do is kind of like, just keep in touch with them that way. And then you can, obviously, I'm not saying don't speak to them on the phone, but it's just that sometimes one of the things I felt like

when I was away is that, you know, I'd say to Lisa, can I speak to the boys? And then I'd hear them, her having to stop them from something they were doing, or like talking to a mate of theirs, or something like that, and then they've got to come and talk to their dad. I didn't want to be, I didn't want to impose that on them.

So that's why I just thought if I started doing the videos, then they'd feel like, you know, they can either just send a quick text reply, sometimes I'll send videos back or whatever. So, you know, that's what I would do. I'd sort of keep in touch. I'm not saying, by the way, that's the best way of doing it, but it's a nice, find your way of keeping in touch

and keeping up to date. Also, it's like a nice thing for them to look back at stuff you've done. Oh, mate, when like, sometimes when I'm looking back at memories of my dad, even reading an email from my dad, even if it was about something, even if it wasn't him going, I love you, just some random thing that he's chatting about,

like Arsenal or something like that, those things are lovely. Do you know what I mean? And I'm somebody who's guilty of not taking photos because I'm just like, let's be in the moment. But actually, you come to realize down the line that it's actually it's actually quite a nice thing and those videos might be something I don't know who knows but anyway on the basis of working away this is how hotwired Ramesh is into the

industry is on Friday he got text me about a film I'd like being asked about right to the point where Ramesh has got more information about this job than my agent have. Like. Well, I knew, yeah, I knew, well, I'd just heard about what your involvement is. It's insane, but like even now, my agent's like, yeah, I don't know if this is true.

Like, it's like. So there's one hand of it that if Ramesh is dealing with, maybe Ramesh should have some commission. But then also, my agent's like, So there's one hand of it that if Robert's just dealing with it, maybe Robert should have some commission. But then also my agent's like, well, offices are closing now for until Monday. So it's like it's been a weekend of not quite knowing what the fuck is going on. Yeah. Yeah.

Right, Tomo. Oh, just a quick thing before we get into your closing thoughts. Have you heard of plantar fasciitis? Yeah, on your foot. Yeah, I've got it, bad. And today, it's hit me. I went for a run this morning. I came home, I said to Lisa, I'm starting to feel a bit of a twinge.

I was hobbling around the cinema today for some reason. Have you got a golf ball or a tennis ball? I've got a tennis ball. You've just got to roll the fuck out of your foot with that. And then what I do is, you know Chloe, who came to the wall for now, amazing, who does like now, she's also an amazing masseuse. I had it, she showed me a stretch the other day,

which I can't quite remember, because I was doing yoga with her. Please, I need your help, man, because I am in deep, I am in agony. Look, I'm thinking twice about going to the toilet. How much do I need to go? Because I have to walk over there. Number one, tennis ball just rubs... It's the one thing on the bottom of your foot, right?

Yeah. Yeah, you've got to get the tennis ball, golf ball to tennis ball as long as it's a really hard tennis ball, and just roll the shit out of it. Just keep rolling your foot with it underneath, and then I'll find that stretch. I think the stretch. I think you go and you know that child's pose Yeah, you you're on your toes Robin. So you stretch your foot Okay, but don't take my yeah

Fucking I'm not gonna base all my treatment off this 32nd conversation that you've half-assed remembered. But thank you, I appreciate it. Right, Tommo, let's do this thing. Well, voyages and ports, flights and airports, port and storm, friend. Where do we get our salvation? Sometimes as you're taking the merry way across the world or floating through the clouds, it's easy to forget where you've just come from because you're always thinking about where you're going. That's a little bit like life.

Sometimes it's easy to think about tomorrow or the next day or the next day. Planning forward. Hey, throw the dice, Bill. What you got? I don't know. I was too worried thinking about the other hand. Living in the moment's important, but it's also great to look back as well. Grab a little perspective. Look at the footprints in the sand and go, huh, that wasn't just me walking. Ramesh

had my hand. It's just about it all. Remembering who had an arm around you who caressed you when you needed them who brushed your hair when you didn't have a hairbrush of it who gave you the idea of growing a beard stash or a bow stash that's life that's friendship and it's important to remember the people that are good to you the kindling in the fire that roars inside your heart, given to you by great people. Remember those people. Smile and think. I must remember to call Alice, Bill, John, Ramesh.

Friendship. It ain't all going forward sometimes. It's just worth looking back. Really nice. Really nice. I'm so excited, Tom, I'm so excited about this tennis ball. I know I've got a tennis ball. I'm almost excited for how this is going to feel. When we're at the gig, always be comedy by the way, if you are in or around Kennington, the Tommy Field pub in Kennington, Or around Kennington the Tommy Field pub in Kennington

But is a gig there always be comedy. It's It's almost guaranteed a great night anytime you go there and they always have the atmosphere in that place It's just impeccable. Love it. Just before I did the new material gig. I ran my show. I saw the people coming out It was just yeah, yeah, just really disappointed Yeah, but it was it was it was it was it was such a great gig. Check it out. Anyway, the reason I bring it up is that Tim Lewis, who helps James Gill run that gig, the lovely James Gill, Tim Lewis, who runs that gig, who helps him run that gig, does

all the tech and all that, sets it all up, he was kind enough. Because I told him I loved the playlist that he had on before and around the show. He's very kind, he sent me the playlist. On that playlist is a song by the Pointer Sisters called Dare Me, which I absolutely love. So JT, could you please play Dare Me by the Pointer Sisters to take us out? I'd like to. Thank you so much. I would say if I was grading this I would say sort of upper

middle tier in terms of quality. I think you got better once your back got up. Yeah I don't like, I know what will happen is you know what's gonna happen you're gonna get texts from me in about 10 minutes asking was I too much of a prick on the podcast as per usual. And my reply will be you were the perfect kind of prick and I loved being with you. Okay great. Thank you guys, take care, bye bye. If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all, please email us at wolfalpod.gmail.com. That's wolfalpod.gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you, mainly because we don't have any content ideas. Thank you.