Wolf and Owl - S4 Ep 30: Dirty Services & Mounjaro Jabs

Episode Date: July 30, 2025

We’re talking… a rejuvenated Tom after last week’s Naseem-gate, a busy time gigging, disgustingly dirty motorway service stations, Mounjaro jab rumours, Tom considering a boxing match, food influencers, trolls getting angry and a hot night of stand-up in Northampton. Plus, a few emails of support, a question about the weather disrupted Ludlow Castle Comedy Festival and a request for some relationship advice. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Mighty Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yo, what you want? Beak or jaws? Feathers or fur? Sharp teeth or feet with claws? Whatever's preferred They'll grant you all ass requests to steady your nerves Then podcast a body parts, get severed and served Bring your weak shit, wear the wolf and owler That ain't just a mistake, that's an awful howler Both of them are known to pull up at your shows Have the crowd witnessing the murder like they're rolling with a gang of crows Fuck their censorship, let em see the whole thing They stay dressed to kill, never sheep's clothing Dark enough to turn the sun to the moon, you'll see nothing All you hear's a huff a puff and a...

Expect killings, red spilling and flesh ripping Impressive innit, the death bringing its head spinning Just kidding, every word in this song's about two grown men Dressed up as a bird and a dog you you had a good i was on a low last week after the zingate and you really went in oh okay well welcome to the wall for now you just call the end of our pre-chat um and you can hear there that tom has obviously got some sort of axe to grind and now sort of the rage no no no i got some sort of axe to grind and now sort of the rage. I was on my haunches I was on my haunches I was very post you know taking a big old haymaker from Prince Nizim Hamed and yeah you really had you doubled down on that you were very. Oh I'm sorry that's your

interpretation that's a shame. You were a cheeky little cock foster last week. Oh how are you feeling this week by comparison Tommy? I feel a million bucks now. I feel back to myself. Yeah I felt quite shell shocked. Look I should say as well can I actually say a shout out to the people at the zone Who reached out to me after listening to last week's podcast in an HR type way to make sure I was okay Didn't have to do that. It was absolutely very good of them very good of them very unexpected and also Yeah, I will shout out to everyone at the zone who got in touch. Yeah, it's good to get a little bit of after care and live a decent fee, isn't it?

Now I'm checking on Jake design. I'm slightly worried that the zone. Yeah, like, I mean, I think there's a there's a very good chance you won't see me at a design event now as a result of last week's podcast. I didn't think I'd been horrible about them. By the way I think it was how I felt about the interview in general. Yeah and I will shout out also shout out the the animal packs for getting in touch. I feel very I feel a lot I feel back to my old self this week I feel very... We did get an email we did get an email from Prince Nazeem actually in simple for now and

It was it was very sure would be absolutely uppercut I don't need is the fact that he listens to this podcast, but still didn't know who I was yeah that would be bad But I think I was a message man. Yeah, the guy who does a poker reform ash Yeah, I can't imagine he listens to this. I can't imagine. Yeah. Anyway, it doesn't matter It was pretty dangerous game start going on Prince the same really but As a boxer he's got his new film the film of his life coming out. Yeah looking forward to that really excited about that Yeah times so Yeah, looking forward to that. Really excited about that. Yeah, very times. So, you're feeling a bit more positive this week?

I feel good, I feel rejuvenated. A nice and lovely week of gigs. Yeah, you're doing a lot of gigs. I sometimes get nervous because I haven't been gigging very much at all. Last week I filmed the weakest link as you know, I went into arguably too much detail about that. And then this week just gone, I've been doing some bits and robberies. I've not been gigging at all. And then when I see people like yourself gigging,

it's like how I imagine sort of a Premier League footballer off season, suddenly seeing this sort of young buck really putting the hours in. Do you know what I mean? It's like, I feel like Jesus watching Giocares arrive, start just like, you know, putting the skills training and all that. Yeah, milking the cow.

Yeah. I'm, this has been a nice week of gigs. I want to say that all was very much fun. Ipswich, I will say on the way to Ipswich, pulled over. I love a service station. But bro, if you're about to go in on the culture services, I am right with you. Is that what you're about to talk about? Most disgusting place I've been to on earth, I think. Yeah, I just saw your Instagram. Have you ever been? No, I mean, I might have done but it doesn't stick out.

Like, it's almost like someone has has a sort of theme park thing going, how can we make the most disgusting services possible? What offended you so much? Because when you put the video out, it really did look, I mean you seemed angry. I was disgusted. I pulled over, full, full, let's go. I was very hungry.

I was on the way to Ipswich. Yeah, okay. You were very hungry, so? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Starving almost. So you're in one of the 22 hours of the day when you're absolutely ravenous.

Anyway, go on. Pulled over, by the way, this week I've been disgusting. I've eaten so much, I've been so like, it's like I'm going through some sort of like body change and I'm just eat also as you while I'm here I think an incredible amount of people Greg Davis shout out Greg saw him this week it seems that a lot of people think I've been on the jab like Zempik or well I do think it's worth getting out there because if look I I love you and I adore you yeah but there are certain things that I have to draw a line at and that line is you lying about the fact

that you're on Manjaro and I think this is you try to pull my pants down you've got your hand around my waist and you're unbuckling my belt Yeah, what you do narrow waist because you've been regularly no no no no no no we have to be open about this and honest Tom just never Tom just I'm giving you the opportunity now just say it right snake I've no I look nothing against people have done it my friends who have loved ones who have I've never, look, nothing against people who have done it. I've got friends who have, loved ones who have. I've never taken a jab.

It's like not something I've looked at or gone into. But there seems to be an incredible amount of people in the last few weeks who seem obsessed that that is how I've lost weight. Well, look, if it makes you feel better, there was a rumor going around the league of their own production team that I've been jabbed Because between you see I've dropped a lot of work. I've not heard that Yeah, no, but also you've been out and you just run fucking two marathons

So it's also in addition to that. I don't I don't look good enough What I've managed to do is I've managed to like lose a bit of weight But not quite look like I've been on the job you you have crossed over I can see it in your face You just look tight. You look tight. Your fucking body looks like your skin's been stretched over a drum. That wouldn't look like that if I'd been on a jab. How do you know? Well, because I weight train.

I eat an insane amount of fucking food. If you saw what I eat in a day and how I train with the boxing, actually quite excited to talk about the boxing, I might actually be having a boxing fight I'm really tempted you've seen Logan Paul step into the ring you've seen Jake Paul step into there now Tom Davis takes on What? Oh yeah, time to hear this now. You could do my Ring Walk. You could do a song from your album. The Ring Walk?

You could do... Okay, tell me everything please. Because by the way, I don't need you to go back to it, but this is a story apparently about the cultures to services. Right, okay, yeah. No, no, but how are we going to box? We haven't spoken for a week properly, so there's so much to talk to you about. Let's deal with the fight. Treating me like I'm trying to get an interview with you in your Princeton C my man.

I want to just clear up the majority, no jabs. Let's get it clear, you have not had any jobs in the last few months. Have you? Like you did it to get lean and now you're steroids. Very big, big on steroids. Yeah. I'm busting stories, but I've not touched any manager. Yeah. No, I need to be quite open about it because I don't want people thinking that is something. But also it worries me slightly. I've got a couple of friends who've needed to do this medically and I agree with them.

I've actually also got friends who aren't in bad shape, who seem to be doing it just for the fact that... Same. Yeah, who want to do it instead of going to the gym and they're buying it online and they're not getting doctors. I've actually had a friend who got very ill recently and was taken into hospital and they're not sure if that's a part. Anyway, what I'm saying is if you are tempted to go on it, please go through the doctor,

but be very careful on the basis of if you need to go on something like that. Or can you do it for a will? In defense of my friends that are doing it, as some friends of mine that are on it right now, in fairness to them, they haven't tried a balanced diet or exercise. So, you know, they've tried literally nothing.

So, anyway, go they've tried literally nothing. So anyway, go on. Yes, anyhow. So I was at the gym, I was boxing the other day, and then I got asked if, whilst afterwards I was just grabbing some food, and someone said, would you fancy a bout in November? And I'm like, what do you mean? We're doing a charity fight night, white collar,

would you fancy being involved? And I was at the time, I went, no, I'm not really interested. And it's sat and it's resonated and I keep on thinking about, I keep on thinking about you doing the marathon. At some point when you did the marathon, you must have gone, no, I don't think I can ever do that. And I think I need like a physical aid. Yeah, but I think I need an aim and something to do to go, that was my marathon marathon and like a five round or six round Boxing bout feels like oh that could be the thing Who are you gonna find? I don't know. I mean that would be no it would just be very low key

It's not I'm not I'm not doing misfits or anything. I'm not big enough, but I'll do like a you're not big enough to do misfits No, I'm not fucking a big enough needs to miss fits you read one car Yeah, but come on Rob. They'd love to have you. No, no, no. I'm not big enough. Okay, I'm going to put it out there now, right? You to me sort of represent working class hero with, you know, beautiful sensibilities, a love for the human race. Who is the most obvious person for you to fight?

Hear me out. Tom Davis in his debut match takes on also in his debut match and also someone who recently has really got quite trim, Greg Wallace. Boom. Greg Wallace is like what about fucking five foot nine? Yeah mean, I'd love to beat the shit out of Craig Wallace. It does not feel like, on Greg's, if Greg's got someone making- You take your robe off, you take your robe off, across your belt it says buttery biscuit base. I love it. I also think that, yeah, I just want to do this as a sort of chilled vibe that I do. Like a fitness thing. Yeah, look, look, look. I've been a bit, again, two weeks in a row

now I've been a prick. You want a goal, you want something to aim to. No, no, no, no. I love Prick Q. Prick Q's so much better than fucking, like, weeping on his fucking violin. Oh. Uh, uh, you. Prick Q's my favorite version of you.

It's not everyone's favorite, though, I'd say. It's just, anyway, that is just something on the back of my mind. Okay. I would love you to do the Ring Walk and like do the, like a rap in there. You could do one of the tracks from your new album in the ring. I know, listen, I do something. Have you got any that are like really fucking pumping before a big fight?

Have you got anything? Yeah, I think I do. I mean, look, I would probably write something bespoke for you. Oh, damn! Right, Wolf and write something bespoke for you. Oh damn. Right. Wolf and our fans, Wolf and our fans, if we were to put an event where I was to fight and Romesh was to go do a live performance of a track to get me into the ring, just on a show of hands, just, well, we'll do a poll.

Yeah. Just email him with a show of hands. Put your hands up now. Put your hands up now. Like three, two, one. Yeah, just email him with a show Now hands up now Let's do it One I would love it if four people on the tube listening to this I mean that's insane to think there'd be four people in the same treatment at the same time and they put their hand up And then they'll be the same point and then someone went hey listen to the wall for now. I'm going to the fight Hmm. I think you'll be a cool thing you you get me in. And it would give me the desired effect to really wanna.

To go for it, I get it, I get it. Yeah, anyhow, anyhow. We were heading to Ipswich. It's me and lovely Jim. And he was like, well, there's some services coming up. And I was like, we often have this discussion, I'm sure you and Jim do, and you're in a car. I said, well, Jim often ridicules me

for the size of my bladder, actually, is the truth of it. Oh, really? Seems to be an ongoing source of fun how many times I need to piss on a long drive. Really funny. Anyway, go on. Well, this is one place never to stop. So, I said, again, I also needed to urinate,

but I had an inkling for like a Burger King. I like to go into Burger King, and I hit up a Burger King burger. I'm like, I like to take out like, I just like the a Burger King burger. I'm like, I like to take out, like I just like the bun and the burger. I don't like all the lettuce and shit. That's just how I write. Yeah, fuck that.

Who wants the vegetables? Just hit me with the meat and the car. I get it, I get it. You're an animal. Okay, go on. So I was quite excited about the thought of the burger. We get in, Jim, I don't know if you saw the picture, I will repost.

Jim straightaway notes you the door and it looked like a horror movie. There was like fucking hand, finger marks stained across the whole of this door. It was pretty, I don't know if you saw it. Glass. Glass, yeah. We get in and there's just a long skid mark

leading from the door to the, it's like something out of Fargo. It was like a, leading from the door. I don't know what had been dragged through the fucking, what sort of, a carcass or sort of you know Yeah, I know an old person shot themselves But yeah, it was tough and the smell that hit you as soon as you open the door I saw him a straight away to Jim. I'm not gonna wait. I'm not gonna die in in this place

This is yeah. Yeah, this is um, you decided to get us getting a bird king. Yeah, that's straight work I'm like, this is not I yeah Even I'm not fucking doing a bird King in this fucking place the Gregg's There was a Gregg's in a Burger King to the fucking places that to the bastions of my diet I still love a Gregg's I still love a fucking Burger King Yeah, I go in and and I was like the woman at the Gregg's I felt so sorry for I didn't talk to her I feel bad for that. She hurt the Gregges was right by the toilet and she looked she looked yeah That's a long shift that Greg's next to that toilet

Cuz it had I argue with say if that place was open in 1992 it may be a clean been cleaned three times and certainly not in the last five years It was absolutely broken. It was Disgusting. Yeah, and I would say this, men, like, why can't we, the toilet is not a hard thing to fucking piss in. I mean, you might get the odd splash back onto the fucking seat, but when you walk into a men's toilet and there's piss all over the floor

by the urinals and the toilet, you're like, what the fuck, what are we as a fucking, as a group of people that can't urinate into, what is essentially quite a big fucking space right? Yeah no it's a big bowl it's a big old target time. But do you do that at home? Do you think these people piss all over the floor? You're talking to me like I'm the guy that went to culture services. No no no but do you not look at a toilet and just go when you go into a men's public toilet and see piss all over the floor what wait no want them like, that's a pair of trainers that fucked.

I know, that is actually, you've hit right on my big issue. Is that if you're wearing a pair of fresh trainers, as you and I often are, bit of a flex, when you go into a services toilet, it's horrific. And I get it in a pub or a nightclub, I get it if you're fucking, you're dizzy, your aims a little bit off your fun. Yeah target isn't what it yeah The target is a moving target your seven points in I know I can I can understand why going to Weatherspoons toilet And there might be a bit of piss on the floor. I'm like I could make my fucking piece of that been the services

How did drunk people are coming through services? Hmm? I mean, do you think it's part of it is just that, you know, you're not you don't have to use that toilet again. You know, it's a social responsibility thing, isn't it? You know, we, if you're at home, you're gonna have to see that toilet again in the very near future. So you take a bit more care. It's a sad fact. Yeah, but also that you're not thinking about the poor person

who's got to go and clean those toilets and how soul destroying it is if your job is to clean some toilets every day, go and go, this is how little people think of me. It's almost the piss on the floor. It's incredibly negative. Why are you looking at it? You know, people aren't thinking of anyone when they do that. They're just, nobody's pissing all over the toilet guy. Fuck them

Fuck you. Yeah, but there is an element of absolute fucking consider Yeah, but how do you like that? Well, they'll be malicious in the tank as a poor person who comes in it has to go Oh god. Oh Okay, this is my lot in life It's like people who do that. I think it's just yeah The lowest things of our species I think Yeah, okay Do you think it's fair to say that you sort of get you get caught up in whatever you're you're a bit like, you know

You're sort of like an episodic sitcom in that you have like a different problem every week and then that's what you kind of obsess on Sonic sitcom in that you have like a different problem every week and then that's what you kind of obsess on I get dismayed by stuff. Yeah Yeah this week the service station toilets you say the lowest in humanity I know I don't know. Okay, clearly there's fucking stuff that that's below people who piss Say though it's a slippery slope because I think once you fucking start pissing on floors in place because you don't give a shit about actually using the facilities that are there, it's a slippery slope to becoming some sort of other psychopath or actually just stop and caring about humanity altogether. If you're listening to this and you think Tom's being a bit short, it is worth mentioning that is one of the known solid effects of mangiaro. Is that you can get a little bit short tempered and snappy.

So look, he's actually sort of a living warning. Do you know what I mean? Just be careful. You are such a slippery little snide. I love that your face was so cock-shoyed when you said that. ["The Man Who Killed the World"] Colgate Total is more than just your favorite toothpaste. It's dedicated to advancing oral health. The new Colgate Total Active Prevention System features a reformulated toothpaste, innovative

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And I do want to say actually Like the way that you're sort of denying it We need to be careful because the implication is that there's something wrong if you do there's nothing And for the better and I've got friends it's helped out I will say is I'm coming across very Bill Clinton in my defence as well. Yeah, how do you mean? You did not inhale? Well, Manjaro has become, yeah, Manjaro has become my Monica Lewinsky. Why are you so desperate to deny it though? No, because I'm proud that I've done it without any offence from yours.

Okay, and here we come to the nub of the problem, isn't it? No, no, I'm not. You've lost weight and you want to be patted on the head for it, don't you, Tom? I don't want to be patted on the head. That's a different thing. There's a pride that I feel in the fact that I've looked at myself and gone, I actually know what, I need to do something. And also, I might say, I went to see a doctor, my doctor was like, you're morbidly obese.

You're in a very bad scenario. So, but I've also done it over the longevity of what, four or five years of training. So when someone says, oh, you've just done the jab, I'm a little bit like, no, I'm not. Yeah, you're annoyed. No, of course I'm annoyed. I've been lying. You're not annoyed when you've gone out, you're fucking putting the hours on the road, fucking it and then what's wrong with it what's wrong with it just the idea of you as a road man just might always make me laugh

so you put you grant you've gone out you've run two marathons and if then all of a sudden someone's got oh you just done a job I think it's just a bit you feel I don't mind. Well, you don't mind that your hard work is only you put your mind to you. You actually like, you know, for me, I love food, as we know, like the amount of times I've cut back on this or I've not drunk or like, Oh, mate, the number of times I've been out for dinner with

you and you've got and listen, credits here for this, where you've just gone, I'm gonna have one main course actually. And I go, I hold my hands up. You jest, you jest, right? I put through the other day what I'd have as an, shout out Big John, what I'd have as an average evening on a Saturday night if I had a Chinese or an Indian takeaway,

what calories I'd have. How much you think I'd have? Brosh. I'm gonna get, well, Chinese, actually I've sort of looked at these sort of numbers and I reckon you're easily, you're probably easily hitting three and a half, four, I reckon.

Yeah, four and a half, five thousand. Yeah. In a mil. But yeah. And then by the way, like back in those days, for lunch at that point in my life, it would be weird for me to have had a McDonald's breakfast of a Saturday, then go

I'll have a healthy lunch of like, like ham sandwich that I make with like a whole fucking pack of ham, and then have a Chinese takeaway in the evening, all washed down with about fucking four liters of fucking full fat coke. Yeah, that was my idea. And a couple of fucking pints of lager for lunch. Yeah. So when I when I look at it and think like I've made changes I feel quite proud no you should I'm being I'm being a dick I'm being a dick you should know that is your way that's your go to no it's evident that like here we go I wonder when the tables would turn here. We are. I'm sorry. You've got like like your pretenders is abundant at times

God You're you he's done me he's done me I had him on the right Like the mean kid at school who's in with the school bully Whispering nasty things Mac Mac don't say this whispering nasty things Mac Mac don't say this well done well done good for you man you got me but can I say also do you do you follow Big John no I don't well the truth is I do like Big John a lot. I worry about any influencer whose popularity is determined, is dependent on them eating a lot of food. Do you know what I mean?

And so there's part of me that kind of, I'm not in a judgmental way and it's not because he's a big guy. I've got nothing against that. Like, you know, if you're big, you're big. Do you know what I mean? It's like, it is what it is. I'm not trying to be body fascist,

but I just think that, you know, in the nature of any online influencer, if you do a thing, what is the natural thing you've got to do? You've got to go, you've got to do more. You've got to beat whatever you did last time. And Big John, rightly so, is like, you know, well loved. My thing is, there's part of me that feels a bit loathe to kind of, yeah, it's, it's, because what happened is he'll get a big take when he'll go list it all out and go bash and then someone will go, that's not a lot for you, John. And then if it, okay, the next time I do this, I'm going to get double that. I'm more like the amount of like trolling he gets.

That's just so, you know, that, that influence of thing. it must be such a fucking crazy thing when you do some of the stuff that people Say to him. It's just like I Mean we've both had an 11 of trolling, but when I look at the stuff that gets said to him is fucking vicious It's like yeah, I can't I can't believe some of the I mean sometimes when I read some stuff I I look quickly just above just to make sure it's not you being mean. Really good. You know what?

Really, really good. I like it. I love the idea of you hadn't become a comedian and you'd have been a troll. This is what, this is, oh. God. He's absolutely dumb here. I prefer you when you imagine... Oh, I'm fucking hell. I'm going to say something really mean about you, mate. Oh, shit.

Rom, Rom, are you coming to bed? Lisa, I'll be out in a minute. I'm doing some fucking trolling. I'm trolling the people, Lisa, darling. It's somebody whose behavior is going unchecked. They need to know that I disapprove despite not knowing what they've been through or what they're up to right now. I reserve the right to be angry at somebody just for doing what they do and not harming anybody. I'm angry at everything Lisa. I'm gonna get angry. Otherwise I can't go to sleep. If I'm gonna get angry. I'm gonna get angry. I can't go to sleep. If I'm in that or you've got to sag me, which one do you want it to be? You keep on trolling babe.

You keep on trolling. Radio 2 posted a video because I wore a green suit to work yesterday. And then Fernand who does the socials he was wearing green as well and then Zoe Ball came in she was also wearing green so can I just read this comment? Zoe Ball was the Queen by the way can I just say Zoe Ball was the Queen? Absolute legend. What a legend of a human being. So then we posted the video. I didn't post it. Radio 2 posted the photo. This does not upset me so I don't want anybody to like worry about me but I just think it's funny how angry people get. Somebody's commented literally spot the white woman. Oh okay. As I actually thought this was gonna be fast, so sick.

Ramesh replaced the bird with the fringe and now he's cocked his leg over license fee payers. I mean what is wrong with people? Also the fact that they they talk about Zoe Ball who's arguably you know one of the best broadcasters at our time an incredible fucking Unbelievable face on television for them to turn around and instead of like to try and make a point Romesh has replaced the bird on his left I'm like You know well, I mean he's talking about Claudia Winkerman there there. Is he? Claudia Unckerman's not in the picture there. No, but he's saying that he's basically he's pivoted from that to suggest that I've replaced one of the other few white women at Radio 2 basically. That's the point. Jesus Christ.

But it's not upsetting, but it is like... Well it is upsetting because it's like social media becomes such a toilet of... I know this is the sort of thing that people say but it's like social media becomes such a toilet of... I mean, it's upsetting for, I know this is the sort of thing that people say, but it's upsetting for that person because like, imagine living your life getting that angry about shit. Like what, you just wake up in the morning, you see a photo. I get angry about stuff. I don't get angry about other people's photos.

I get angry at people pissing on the floors. No, but also you wake up in the morning, radio to have posted a photo of three people that happen to be wearing green and that has sent you into a fucking rage. I mean what a way to live your life. But that is so true. It's just like a fucking powder kick. You've got no idea what is going to trigger you.

Do you know what I mean? I'm just going to have a quick scroll. Fucking hell they're all wearing green. It's mad. Yeah. Fair play to him. I hope he's all right. Sometimes it's the only way I hear from Dinesh. Do you ever message those people back? No, because I think I've said this on a podcast before, but like a couple of times back in the day on Twitter, you know, somebody would say something and then I would comment back

to them. And then what would happen is, is everybody would, everybody that followed me would see my reply and then they pile him on that person. And then I think, now I feel bad because all that person's done is these. I do think if you see me on something and it annoys you, that is fine. Like, I do think that is that you, you have the right to feel annoyed. You have the right to think I'm shit. I think that's totally fine.

And I would defend that person's right to feel that way. You shouldn't have to like everything you see. I get that. So then if somebody just sort of angrily, the thing that I do think is a bit off is that social media now gives you the power to put that view in front of that person. Do you know what I mean? Unsolicited.

And I think that's a little, you know, like he's tagged me in that. So like, I do think that that is a bad thing. But in terms of if somebody hates you, somebody hates you, do you know what I mean? But the point I'm trying to make is if they do that, then fine, they've just done that. What they don't deserve, even if they are criticizing you, is a fucking massive pile on. I like that. Like I've got, I think it was at the time, I remember like one specific time and I think I've talked about it.

I said, League of their own this week is worth watching for Tony Bellew alone. Something like that. I tweeted that. And then somebody replied, how much did he have to pay you to suck him off like that? And was the reply, there you go. Instantly laugh. Instantly laugh. No it was a reply. They go instantly.

Yeah, instantly. No, just the idea. Yeah, just the idea of you sucking off Tony Bello. It makes no sense because Tony Bello would not have to pay me a penny to suck him off. Look at the guy. He's one of the sexiest guys I've ever been around. Not only that, you think I'm going to turn I'm going to say no to Tony Bello. If he asked me for a blowjob, I'm not fucking on my knees before he's finished the question.

Anyway. Tony Belly is generally one of my favorite people that I've ever been in contact with. I'm wiping my chops before he's finished the sentence. Anyway. So he's gone. He's gone. He's gone.

How much did Tony Belly ever pay you to say that? I'm just thinking that. Tony Belli seemed a bit angered by something and you just going, you're pissed off, Tony. Yeah. Want me to give you a blowjob? No, I'm not pissed. Lad, I'm not pissed off. Just leave it. No, I can do it if you want. I can do it if you want. I'm alright, mate. I'm alright for a blowjob.

No, Romesh, I don't like it. Just leave it. Leave it. No, I can. I can do it if you want. I'm all right, mate, I'm all right for a blow job thing. Romesh, I don't like it. Just leave it. Leave it. No, I can, I can. Romesh, put your clothes back on, mate, and get out of here, please. Whatever you want, like whatever you want to calm me down. This is actually making me angry, mate. Fucking hell, I cannot wait to be at a, like, some thing,

and then both Tony Bailey and Princeton seem to turn up at the same time to clobber the fuck out of me. Get a clump off both of them. No, Tony knows I love him. But anyway I replied not as much as you'd have to pay me to rock that fucking top knot you've got. Right, that was the reply right. It's just very, because in his profile photo he had like one of those little kind of you know the little tiny. Anyway it then was like a slaughter just everybody going and going he's done you like I hadn't done him but it's like a very cheap thing to say but like everybody's ripping into him and then it just occurred to me that guy had like 200 followers right and he's done like a little thing where

he's gone oh Romesh has been he's sucking up to Tony Bailey so I'm just gonna say and he might have meant it as a joke do you know what I mean he might not have meant it maliciously? He might have gone Yeah, you know you you I would imagine you saying that to me on the podcast Well, I saw your tweet how much do you have to pay to fucking put his dick in him? That's the sort of he might have been a lot of that and then instead I basically Accidentally instigate a pile on and then when that happened, I thought I'm never gonna do that again to anybody It's you mean even if they're going in on me, I'm never gonna do that I had a weird one I talked to you about sir before but I had a thing I was gigging the other week in Northampton

Be booked and busy I understand it was very yeah It's the get north and a good Northampton on a Friday night. It's the glitz and glamour of the week It's very it was the hottest day of the year. And to put it into context, I arrive, Tom Rosenthal's been on, it's so hot in this fucking room. You can see people, he's got so many audiences, some older people have fallen asleep during his performance, which is never great.

And I would say that stand up, arguably, is a certain time where the heat is too much and it's very Stand-up is pathetic. It only works if the sound is certain way the lights are mine the temperatures are my otherwise You can't fucking do it. It's so fragile People think you can do it anyway, you can't see any more fragile as the people on stage anyhow So Tom told me that Lloyd's on when I get in and Lloyd Shoot shelf and then they and I won't name them. I don't really know them but the

The companion turns around to me and goes, um, I'm not gonna close the show today Yeah, can you close your shit? You're gonna close your show. I'm not close the sharks. I need to get on a train I've got a poker game to get to and I'm like what like, you know, usually as you know, you know I'll finish as the headliner and the comp a will come and thank you very much better bit of them know, you know, I'll finish as the headliner and the compay will come in. Thank you very much. But a bit of them. So I'm like, Okay, whatever. Usually what you do in that scenario is say, Is that okay? If you close the show? Not your closing the show? I'm leaving. Oh, is that how it was said to you? Yeah,

yeah. Okay. Yeah. So it's slightly changes things not massive. Yeah, if the put Yeah. Um, anyhow, so it's hard. I'm trying out new material. I'll go on. Yeah, I thought put yeah, um, but anyhow, so it's hard. I'm trying out new material. I'll go on Uh, yeah, I thought I did. Okay, you know, it was you know, not my best gig of all, you know, but whatever I'm there. I think I'm coming home and I get a dm from someone saying, uh, Just been to the show. Uh such as I think you just phoned it in and you half-assed it out there tonight right, um you just phoned it in and you half-assed it out there tonight. Jesus Christ. I was like, I sort of let that sit for a second. I put in a bit, it was hot, some of the new

material was going to be quite transparent, hadn't worked, that's just the nature of it. Anyway, I sort of thought, deliberate what to do. And then I ended up voicing out in this person back and saying, she says, no, no, but just the side like, because I didn't want them to think like, like, I will say this, right? I like, everyone does what we do. Like you're saying, right? Might might not like my material, might not be good enough, or you might not like what I say, I might swear to you, all of these things, fair enough, whatever. But the thought that I'd let you know, one thing I've done, I don't ever half ass a gig, I give it what I've got in me and I try to put on a show. I think that's the bare minimum that I thought

that I turned up and just fucking, so that's essentially what I said to this person. And to be fair to this person, I will say, came back and actually ended up having three or four voice notes with them and actually chatting with them about comedy and actually they're a listener of this podcast and a fan of the podcast and actually turned out to be quite a nice person. But my thing was, I found that offensive to the fault that I'd rock up and not give a

shit about the people in the audience. That's the thing. Like I say, part of our job is that we're not going to, not everyone in the room is going to like what we're going to say. Sometimes it's going gonna fall down and people go, that's fucking awful or whatever, that's just not very good. But yeah, anyway, but then can I just say that the person I was then messaging, actually we opened up to each other and we had quite a long chat about mental health,

about quite a lot of other things. I'm not gonna say their name, but they actually were a pretty sweet soul. Okay. Well, I guess the point, my roundabout point was they said something that I actually took it humbree- like I found quite offensive, I'm humbree-driven and that's just how they saw it. But actually in the end they were a very nice person, a very decent person and actually ended up having a very decent conversation with them about

other things in life about one thing and another. So I need to say that I made a snap judgment thinking that person's an asshole and they weren't. They were very decent. I am glad that that conversation worked out for you. I am glad and it sounds like this person's a lovely person. But they weren't not a lovely person if they thought you half-assed it. I mean that's their right to think that isn't it? I mean that's their right to think that isn't it? I mean my argument would be is not everybody's gonna like you and that you

have to just sort of be okay with that you know like like. Yeah but also I suppose my thing is that person if that person walks away thinking you're half-assed it you can live with that can't you? I mean the whole illusion of stand-up is that you're not trying. I mean that is the best stand-up is that you're not trying. I mean that is... the best stand-ups look like they're not trying. I would say that this person has messaged me on the basis that they brought a ticket to come and see me perform. Okay. And got away from it and thought that I wasn't bothered about them or anyone else in the audience which is, like I say, I don't like, I can't sit here and like, I'm aware that some people will come and watch me and go, But the thought that, like I do every time I step on stage,

I try to, I'm not saying, you know, but I try to do my best to do the job and make sure it's never lost to me, people who have paid money to come and see us, that's fucking. Every time. So, yeah, sometimes people get freebies. But what I mean is every time you've tried your hardest.

Yeah, I think I tried my hardest to put A performance of sorts on. I've gigged with every time you've tried your hardest. Yeah, I think I tried my hardest to put a performance of sorts on. I've gigged with you and you've really fucking found it. And listen, do you remember it always be comedy when you just start a literally as you walked in you went fuck these people. Do you remember?

No. No, you did do that. What I actually said was what I said was this is a cash in hand gig They'll get cash in hand fucking my No, it all suits. Let me clear that up. You are you are very diligent. I do respect that But like I understand what you're saying the person got in touch with you with a complaint So you're almost like the complaints department for Tom. Yeah, yeah complaints. Yeah. Yeah, and also I just yeah I thought I have a right to apply and also this person

Yeah, like I said and actually shout them out They were the what my thought was the might my boss and my takeaway was very much at first like I Felt pissed off about what they'd said And I felt very upset about what they'd said and that was great in on me and actually took it into the next day When I was at home the next day with my wife and daughter I took that into the next day feeling pissy about and actually by the end of the day what was what I took as quite negative was actually I felt quite a positive experience chatting to the person guys you know what this person's

alright right and you know it could you know so sometimes it pays to to dig it up. Sometimes it pays to engage. I get that. I understand. And actually, do you know what, Tom? I've learned a little thing from you there because I was ready to like launch into one at you. In fact, I started to. Do you know what I mean? This is my way as you know that I've got as a gritty little troll. Yeah. And you've taught me a lesson. As your alias zbit55. Your trolling account on Instagram. Oh fuck off Taylor Swift. I'm doing an anxious laugh now.

Yeah, I'm just letting this play out and see where I see it when I take this. Well done. Good for you. I'm just I'm just letting you put I'm letting this play out and see where I see it when you take this. Well done. Okay, should we do some emails my guy? Let's do it. Hopefully not really harsh one that'd be awful. Okay. This is from the fabulous Frenchie. Dear Wolf and Al, I just wanted to send some love to Tom after hearing your interaction with this Prince Aseem person.

I've never fucking heard of him before and I absolutely want nothing to do with him, but I know and love who you are, Tom. Sure, you can be a bit thirsty occasionally, but you're a kind, outgoing, dynamic person, which is why I love you. How hard would it have been to show a bit of kindness and respect instead of him in his entourage laughing and whispering like a bunch of high school twats that's

a reflection of who he is brother keep being you son you're the kind of person I respect and enjoy hearing from love both you sweet souls that's nice isn't that that's very nice yeah that's very kind. Very lovely. A lot of this is addressed to you by the way. This is a slight downside. Yeah, but this is what I worry about because I've had a bit of a meltdown. I was in a very low space last week. You didn't have a meltdown. You were just a bit down about it. Yeah, but I was very down about things. Yeah, but people are reaching out and supporting you. It's a lovely, beautiful thing. Yeah, it's very nice. It's beautiful.

Would I like some emails to be addressed to me as well? Sure. Sure. I think there might be a chance. Am I out here putting myself out in the firing line as well? Double down on the twat zone. Yeah. Do I regret? Do I regret behaving last week like I was one of Prince Nassim's entourage? on to our show. Absolutely 100%. But here we are. Okay. Hi, Wolfenau. I recently saw Tom at Ludlow Castle. I'm from the local area and it was amazing to see so many amazing people there to lighten Ludlow up with laughter.

That's a lot of alliteration there. Well done. Unfortunately, we experienced poor weather with thunder and lightning stopping the show. It's a crazy old turn of events but wow did the comedians including the amazing wolf still give us a great time. Look at this Tom, what a review. My question is have you experienced any other gigs such as this and if so are they crazy or did you manage to recover? Thank you for both filling me with so much happiness over the years. The Golden Wolf, oh my god, that's quite a big name.

Right Tomo, what happened at the Ludlow gig? Ludlow was, number one, I didn't know the size of Ludlow until I arrived, it was very daunting, but I arrived just as I think Ivo Graham was on stage and they evacuated the whole event due to, shout out Ivo Graham, incredible comedian. Really good comedian, really good. One of the best in the game.

Yeah, and they evacuated the whole of the event because of lightning and thunderstorms coming very clear into the castle. So if you must have had that thing where you're sort of arriving, and it's a weird thing, isn't it? Even like at the level we're at, you're sort of, you're turning up to you know, you love loads quite a schlep, shall we say at, you're sort of, and you're turning up to, you know, Ludlow's quite a schlep shall we say, but you're turning up and you are then, what's your mindset? So if I'm doing a gig, it doesn't, you know, I had to get myself in a certain mindset,

I'm going for the material, I'm very, I get myself into a very like a state of like, I'm looking forward to it, I'm going to, you know, nervous, anxiety, whatever. But we're gonna, it's gonna, you know, I need to get myself into an elevated place where, you know, going back to this fucking other show, but you know, and then all of a sudden, you're essentially getting a text saying, Oh, this might not happen. You might have to cancel the event. I imagine you're elated. No, because I was looking forward to it.

I was so I also didn't find myself in a really like weird position of like, do I stay into the into this mindset that I'm going on stage or do I start relaxing a bit? And then everyone else, you know, great group, you know, green room is a fun green room to be in. Can I say Clinton Clinton Baptiste was on that night? Yeah. Right. Oh my god. Brilliant, right? Fuck. If you haven't been to see Clinton Baptiste was on that night. Yeah. Right. Oh my god. Brilliant. Right. Fuck if you haven't been to see Clinton Baptiste. It's fucking incredible. It's amazing. The guy that he was in my the first thing I ever wrote, the guy plays give I was done with Alex Lowe, but he's an amazing actor. He was in the

first thing I ever wrote. 15 odd years ago, I did a thing called Walmart guy and he was in the taste. Let's should we talk about him rather than you know this is about him and what a lovely man he is here we go fucking sniffy old troll on the fucking cliff of those troll nows he keeps telling the stories in the podcast, but it's all about him. How can you give Alex Lowe his moment? All of his stories about him, he's talking about Clinton Baptiste, he's talking about his script he wrote 15 years ago. So Alex did that as a bit of a favour, but anyway, so I've known him for a number of years.

I hadn't seen Clinton Baptiste for a while, always a fact, but I came off, you know, you come off stage, you know, adrenaline's pumping, he came on and watching him work that out, like an outdoor crowd, it was like fucking phenomenal. It was like, he's on tour I think from, I think for September maybe. Yeah. I have to get that Google Clit about these.

I think I'm right in saying the support actor is a guy called Mike Cox, who's another brilliant comedian. So the whole night's gonna be great, if you're gonna watch him. Yeah, anyway. But that was probably the first time I've ever been in a situation where,

I've been in situations where not enough tickets have been sold, you turned up at an event. I've been in that quite a lot and they might have to pull a show. I don't feel I've ever been in situations where not enough tickets have been sold, you've turned up at an event. I've been in that quite a lot and they might have to pull a show. I don't feel I've ever been in a situation where like rain stops play and more and more acts are now turning up and no one's really got an idea of it as if we're going on or not. It was quite...

I've got the slight issue of like, I do love stand-up, it's my favourite thing to do, but I don't love doing it as much as I do it being cancelled I mean that's like the ultimate isn't it I think I've turned up at a festival gig once and they were over running and they said can you do like five instead of 15 that we booked you for I was like yeah 100% I'd be so terrified it's the same payment and you're asking to do less work but I put but I put so much thought, do you know, I sit there and think about exactly what I like, you know, a version of the story,

so I put them in an order and then I'm like, I arguably would say, by the way, can I say, I think five minutes of stand-up's the hardest. It is hard, it is hard. I had to do like that audition at the comedy store, not comedy store, the comedy cellar in New York, where I auditioned for them and you had to do like that audition at the comedy store, not comedy store, at the comedy cellar in New York where I auditioned for them and you had to do five minutes. And they're treating you like an unknown.

So it's not like you're going on doing five minutes as Ramesh Ranganathan in the UK. You're doing five minutes as some random guy. Do you know what I mean? That's quite, so you're doing an introductory five minutes. I did find that quite tough. Yeah, I don't. If I've ever got to go back and do five,

10 minutes now, I find that- Well, I've been on my way to a gig, and then it started to snow quite heavily, and then it became clear I wasn't gonna make it, because the roads were all getting closed down. That was probably one of my favorite gigs I've ever had. That's just turn around and come home. That's probably up there.

If somebody's asking me my favorite ever gigs of all time, that's definitely in the top five, I'd say. I think if it's cancelled, cancelled, then fair enough. But when you get there, they're not knowing. But also, they're not knowing. They're sitting of like, you know, it's this guy. And also, four and a half thousand people is one of the biggest crowds I've ever played. There's a part of me that, you know, in an outdoor event where you're like, oh shit, this is quite a big, you know, so I have to be in a certain state of mind for that. And I was fucking, the anxiety that's going through me of like, I still worry about

going out and hitting your first joke and everyone just going, oh, fucking hell, this is a bit right. And that's a big old mozzarella ball to eat when you're looking at four and a half thousand people and you're dying. Are you trying to break the American market just out of interest? I heard that the other day on the film. I really liked it and you just started talking about America so I just thought it worked as Americans listening. I'm Duolingo.

I was doing a gig at Leicester Comedy Festival. Actually I've got two stories about Leicester Comedy Festival. One of them was I was in the middle of the gig and they just had a power cut at the venue so the mic, the PA went off and all the lights went off in the venue so somebody in the audience lent me their bike light and then I just did the gig without a mic and sort of lit myself like a Blair Witch project for the rest of the gig. You've got some minor, gently old Blair Witch stuff. You used to have quite a lot of Blair Witch stuff didn't you? I don't think I said it. No I didn't. Why you didn't? Oh looks like both of us have got a little nail file for the claws.

And then I did... Oh, fuck it now. Anyone seen Blair Witch? Yeah, about ten years ago, mate. Oh, okay. It is bad, isn't it, when you've got a bit of material and you think like this. It's so old, it's so dated. The worst is like when, I mean I've not done this, I don't think I've ever done it. My problem is I get so bored with my material so quickly I end up like hating it. But you know like people, you come across some people that have got, like they do a joke about their kids just sort of turning two and they're at uni now.

The kids on the circuit now. But the other thing that happened in Leicester is once I was trying out an hour of new material and it wasn't going very well, I just sort of working, rummaging away from work in progress and midway through somebody just went, why don't you just do some of your old stuff they sounded so defeated it's horrible anyone seen Blair Witch? Blair Witch stuff it's a bike light it was funny he's actually better when the mics off with it make that your whole Edinburgh show. Like have a faux power cut halfway through. Ramesh Ranganathan bike flight.

Just trying to create an Edinburgh moment every night. Oh fucking hell, I can't believe this happened again. Well, it must have, you must have expected it. You sent Lisa out to cut, to pull the fuse box. Lisa just turns off the light and you pretend the mic. Hello? Hello? Oh for crying out loud. Oh I'm sorry comedy barn. I'm gonna have to speak like this. Has anyone got a bike light? I've got one. Thanks random lady. This is honestly, this really is an Edinburgh experience isn't it?

This is live comedy people. We were here last week mate, the same thing happened. Fuck off, just let me have me moment. Okay, let's do one more email. Dear Rom and Tom, my husband took early retirement from a job in London. He's now home 24-7 at our house in Devon. We've been married nearly four years, both in our late 40s. We have no kids. Instead of seeing him on weekends, I see him every day when he comes downstairs, plants his fat arse on the sofa and proceeds

to watch sport for eight to ten hours while I manage the house, cook, care for our three dogs, DIY, gardening, etc. He will help with some things only if asked, but otherwise we'll literally rot away on the couch all day. Our backgrounds are different. I'm from Texas, the daughter of a poor but hardworking folks, whereas he grew up a grammar school boy, the spoiled child of overprotective and dramatic mother and middle class father who never taught him man skills. I've had to speak to him several times about the importance of showering daily.

He's often gone a week or two without showering. He's a heavyset person, as am I, and I know he hates his body, but he won't do anything about it. I'm out of ideas at this point. When I've broached the subject before, excuse for this lifestyle is I'm just lazy. He ensures me he's not depressed, just lazy. Separate bedrooms, thank God.

I do appreciate my husband. Hmm. Especially rescuing me from the US and bringing me to the UK where I love the people, the weather, the NHS, etc. I can't help feeling resentment and yes, actually a teensy bit of disgust at the sight of him every day. And I don't know if that's normal for married people. I'm old and smart enough to know you can't change other people, you can only change yourself. Can you think of any coping strategy or perspectives that I can try? I don't believe in nagging or shaming because I don't think it's kind. But honestly, I'm on my wits end.

I don't want to end up in a true Prime podcast, so please give me advice. You two are absolute magic, by the way. Tom's warmth and Rom's humor are beautiful things to see. Thank you for putting so much love out into the world. Tom, what's your take on this? This is quite tricky I think. It's a very tricky one. I think it's, you're right in saying you can't change anyone. People have got to take their own initiative and sort of change themselves. I think also like, I think until someone gets to a point when they have to sort of make a change

to do so. I mean, look, you know, it's very hard because your email whilst being very heartfelt is also, it's very hard to decipher what you're saying and is there anything you're saying in a sort of like little bit of jest of like exaggeration or is this, you know, or do we take it face on? Because actually, you know, if you take it that way, it feels like you're sort of in a place where neither of you seem that happy. And actually, I think when you get to a point and, you know, me and Catherine have had those times in our relationship where one of us has had to sit down to the other and discuss,

you know, for the majority of times, from Catherine's point of view, but, you you know stuff that's annoying you with the other person and I think um, I think actually having those conversations is in a marriage or any sort of relationship is very, very important to always try to be as open as you can, but also number one, not make the person feel bad. I think that's a very important thing, like, you know. But also make sure it comes from a place where you're not addressing, you know, that there's a problem with them. It's almost just taking it from your side and saying you sort of feel overlooked or you feel like you're

doing a lot of the work in making a relationship tick from day to day. And I think it's, you know, we've had couples therapy. It's very interesting when you have couples therapy on a basis that been quite open and just about is that you realize the difference at times between men and women and how important conversation is between two people in it as a couple, like that men given a certain scope will become very, you know, like obviously your husband is at the moment.

And depression and mental health and things that we talked about on this podcast before. And I've made a bit of light of it and I joke about it, but I go back and look at how I felt, certainly pre-grace, I was in a very depressed place. And because of a number of reasons that I've talked about on this podcast and a part of reasons that I've talked about in this podcast and

a part of that coping mechanism was food and drink and whatever and not really sort of taking care of myself and not being the best version of myself as a husband as well involved in that. That then has a knock on and I think saying stuff that could trigger him to feel low about himself Because you're saying stuff that is a bit, you know mean or can feel a little bit It was spirited. Whereas actually if you just say this is how I feel This is how you and your behavior at the moment is making me feel I think that's probably the way to go and I hope genuinely that you both find some sort of resolution And I said you goodwill because you seem like a sweet soul in a bit of a rut. Great advice, Tom, as always.

You're one of the top guys in the game. Two main things that sort of strike me from this email is, and bearing in mind, we're idiots. Sorry, I'm an idiot. Tom is an idiot's friend. But I think he's... Easy with the trolling here, by the way. He's displaying all the hallmarks of depression, to be honest with you.

And I know he's saying that he's not depressed, but if you're not washing for weeks at a time, and you're just sitting in front of the TV and not doing anything, you are not engaging in the very sort of basic levels of self care that you should have if you're sort of mentally in the right place. I mean, if you sort of think about, I think about when I'm in a good place mentally, I'm exercising, I'm like, choosing my outfits carefully, I'm like, looking at my hair, am I doing it right? You know, all these things,, you know staying hydrated, sleeping well, looking

after yourself, these are all things that you're in a good place and whenever I look at the times when I'm not in a good place mentally I'm not giving a shit. Do you know what I mean? I'm sort of just putting on whatever and I'm heading out and you know whatever like I'm not even heading out you know and so I know he's saying he's not depressed but it sounds like he might be. So I think it's worth having a chat. If he's not, if he's genuinely not depressed and he is just being lazy, then, and either way, this is true,

it can't carry on like that. I mean, he, you're doing everything and he's, it sounds like he's doing nothing. You need to get him into a, and when I say you need to get him into, I mean, in a supportive way and in a way where you're both working together, you need to get him into a place where he's doing more and you

are feeling sufficiently supported in your home situation because this is not sustainable. You've got to take steps to make your life good or to be content, do you know what I mean? So something needs to change. The other thing I would say, and this is as worrying is and I know you're joking for comic effect but it doesn't sound like at the moment you like him very much you know like the language you're using I'm not saying this in a judgmental way but even if I was really angry with Lisa I would never talk to about her in the way that you've spoken about your

partner and that to me suggests like that you are in a really bad place with him. And that needs addressing. I think you need to kind of, uh, in my opinion, you need to sort of find the love again, you know? And so, um, I know that this is often our advice for stuff like this, but it needs a conversation. And I think actually Tom mentioned couples therapy. I reckon that's probably a good suggestion for the two of you because it feels like you do resent him. And that you know, even the things like when you talk about what his background is, you're sort of resenting where he's come from in his upbringing that's created this

person that you are getting pissed off with. And really, you need to ideally get yourself into position where both of you are looking at each other and seeing the good things about each other rather than seeing all the bad things about each other. And I think that needs fixing for both your sakes really. And I guess like finally I do feel for you, it sounds like you're in a really bad place, it sounds like both of you are in quite a bad place. So I think you need to talk about it and I would go further than that and say, you need to talk to somebody else about it. Cause it feels like this is untenable, this situation.

And he needs to do this and work he needs to do sort of getting himself out of this funk. And you, neither of you need to do anything, but like, I think that it would be great if you could find a place where you weren't feeling about him the way that you are feeling about him and that's gonna take a change from both of you in my opinion but remember disclaimer I'm an idiot. Okay that takes us to time I believe Tom.

Could you please do us the honor of taking us out this time? Galleries, piece of art on the wall, a painting from decades, centuries ago. It's easy to walk past and miss the brush strokes, an individual hand that's just works its way across the canvas. At the time of painting, did they know it was going to be a work of art? No one truly knows what will gain other people's perspective. But the truth is you don't have to go to the gallery to see a piece of art. Mother Nature's everywhere. An idle tree that has stood for decades, nigh centuries, much like the

paintings I've mentioned. But actually art can be even more simple. It can be the laughter of a child or a dog running across a park to find a stick its owner has thrown. It can be it two people holding hands, new love, old love, love rekindled. See it's how you see the world and how you address the situation in which you're in. Sometimes even on the cloudiest day, it's hard to see the sun. Why, friend? Because the clouds are in the way. But clouds aren't always clouds, in actual clouds, like rain in the sky. Clouds can sometimes be in your eyes, your own inner clouds, clouds that go across your mind. See, sometimes even when the sun's out, it's hard to see it. Sometimes when the dogs run across to

get a stick, you're not thinking about the dog enjoying himself. You're thinking, stupid dog. Perspective, perception, visualization, and mindset. Three important things. We all see the world differently. But I ask you this friends, as summer holidays start and the sun shines more and more each day, try as you might to let the clouds of your mind dissolve and see for the world for what it is. At times, it's a pretty special place really nice some actually very very useful advice tucked in there with the dog stuff JC I'm so glad you're doing this as well I got a lot of bite back from mine you're this is your you're so much better than you know you bite no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no So bravo sir. So an easy trip on which you're like a tour guide on one of those open buses in London.

You're putting me under a bit of pressure here because you've said an artist that nobody's heard of, but everyone's heard of this artist that I'm about to recommend. So Tyler the Creator has brought out a new album called Don't Tap the Glass, which is kind of his, what he said about it is it's like a more of a fun record, as opposed to Chroma Copia that he bought out less than, I think less than a year ago, which is a much more serious kind of introspective thing. This is a bit more fun. And JT, could you play Big Poe, which features Pharrell Williams off this album. It's been a bit divisive this album. Some people are saying it's not as good. They don't like it. I think it's great. So do check it out. Don't tap the glass. Tyler, the creator, but this song's Big Poe. Thank you so much for listening to the podcast guys. Oh by the way

Dublin and Belfast tickets still available. Yeah I mean look we are staring down the barrel here of flying out to Dublin and Belfast to do podcasts in order to sell these tickets. That's where we're at now. We were having to run a paid ad on Instagram. Yeah. So I mean we also there's a good chance that Dublin and Belfast might just become a bit of a jolly. Yeah. Which is there's no better place to be. No, absolutely.

But it's looking very seriously like we're going to run at a loss on those shows. Anyway, that's not your problem. We'll see you next time, guys. Take care of yourselves. Big love. God bless. Bye-bye. next time guys take care of yourselves. That's wolfalpod.gmail.com. That's wolfalpod.gmail.com.

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