Wolf and Owl - S4 Ep 31: Disney Rom and Getting Egged

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

We’re talking… the Ranganathan family in Disney World, moustache disguises, Tom’s new sock obsession, swearing at theme parks, getting ‘egged’ in the street, coping with heat on holiday, too many Arsenal football shirts, embarrassing yourself in front of your family, football banter, ‘big fella’ chat and Tom’s long-awaited appearance on Rick And Morty. Plus, emails about a trolling mispronunciation, excessive weight-loss chat, toilet cleaners and some lovely praise for the pod. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Mighty Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bring your weak shit, where the wolf are nowler. That ain't just a mistake, that's an awful howler. Both of them are known to pull up at your shows. Have the crowd witnessing a murder like they rolled in with a gang of crows. Fuck the censorship, let them see the whole thing. They stay dressed to kill, never sheep's clothing. Dark enough to turn the sun to the moon. You'll see nothing.

All your hear's a huff-a-puff and a... Expect killings, red spilling and flesh ripping. Impressive in it. The death bringing its head spinning. Just kidding. every word in his songs about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog uh welcome welcome welcome to the wolf welcome to the wolf now i'm in a bit of a difficult situation because hyper secretive well it's not hypersecretive but i'm at disney um the kids are getting

ready so i've come downstairs to the lounge i've turned the disney tv down it's in the lounge well hold up what is that a lounge that everyone can use yeah yeah had to get away from there. Otherwise, they'd be like Lisa and the kids walking in the background naked. Not getting ready, that's just how we operate, do I mean? The Salamanathan's role in holiday. Well, we tend to go nude, do you know,

before we hit the parks? Then sometimes we go topless out of the parks. It just depends. You know what Lisa's like at Epcot? She goes absolutely wild. Just in the mere whiff of Donald Duck just drives her absolutely crazy. Yeah.

What is that, like really old-school Disney cartoons on the background? Yeah, they've got like a thing in here where they just, I think it's like, I think I'm just bitten there so there's going to be people coming in. How long have you been there now? I've done a week.

We've got a week left, yeah. Have you had a break from Disney until since you've been in? Yeah, or has it been Disney every day? We went shopping Monday right at the Orlando Vineyard Mall. And I think this moustache is throwing people off

because I keep getting people like going on more than one occasion I had people going, is that Ramesh? No, it can't be. look at him. You're American fans or the UK fans? There was loads of British people at the shopping centre and they were like, and then I got loads of messages after us going,

was that you? So I think I've managed to sort of negotiate a disguise. Yeah. But anyone who's an abjects, like a big fan of yours, knows it this moustache vibe's been for a while now. I mean, the moustache is so good with that arson shirt. It shows you how long it takes for these things to permeate. You know, people still see me as a beard guy, you know?

Yeah, yeah. And also, what are you using in your beard, by the way? I've been using, like, a Tom Ford thing. That smells quite nice. Mm, really nice. It's really good. I'm just wondering, you're just looking on, tip-top. Well, I found a guy who really knows what he's doing with it.

Can I show you a photo? So I sent a photo to, you know, Rob Percy. Yeah. I sent him a photo. DJ, extraordinary, friend of the show. I sent him a photo of me on holiday. And he said to me, you look like the Garth NWA and the Posse. Let me just show you this photo, Tom.

Oh, my God. God, that's not you. It's not me, but I mean, it could be me, couldn't it? Yeah, there's another lookalike of you that's floating around that someone sent me an insane one. There's quite a few. Since you've had the moustache, it's almost that it's more people that look like you. I think it's the moustache and the mullet, the mullet, is it?

The mullet's very cool. As is that arsulcher, as last year's asshole, it's very cool that show. This is the Ian Wright one. Yeah. And we've seen the new third kit? Yeah, I have. I can't really say anything negative about West Ham because of part of that kit lodge

but it's just, I will say that it's not quite up to Arsenal and United Liverpool, Bournemouth. Well, look at the people, they've got involved in the advertising campaign and that tells you everything, isn't it? It's a low, yeah, yeah, they've really reached. They've just done open casting. Ray Winston or Danny Dyer Clee wasn't around for that part, that little bit. And also, I just want to say congratulations, man,

on the Ivy Ellis sponsorship. So when did that come about? Mate, have you had Ivy Ellis socks? Have you used it? Have I had them? Ivy Ellis socks. Like, I love a pair of shorts in the summer. You're not a short guy, are you?

I'm wearing shorts now. Yeah, yeah, but you don't wear shorts in and around businessmen. I like a pair of shorts, but I like to, I like a sock. The older I've got the more, I like a sock that speaks for itself, a sock that stands loud and firm and says, yo, I'm in this game. No. No, no, I've paid. I've bought the socks.

Okay. And, yeah, so I found them online. I just like what they're about. They look very cool with a pair of sabres and Eddie, that's a pair of kicks. They look great with a pair of Birkenstock, the clogs. But it's a good look. Yeah. It's a very sweet, sweet look.

If you're wearing trainers and shorts, are your socks visible? Yeah, always. Or I go the really, really disappearing, the invisible sock. I never go those, the ones that you wear the little ankle ones, don't you? No, I don't. No, I don't. No, I don't. Although I have, I tell you what I have done. I have worn trainer socks where they've just been slightly too long.

And so you can just sort of see, it's like a little sort of, sort of teasing kind of rim around the top of the train. Yeah, yeah, like a stock cleavage. You've got to be careful of that stuff. I know. I see, I got it wrong for years. I see people and it's a very like you either see the sock

and you're proud of the sock and the sock does a lot to carry some of your leg or the socks completely redundant you don't see it but it's doing its work quietly on the inside

okay but the problem with those socks the problem of those socks is like if the shoe's not doesn't this is so boring isn't it but if the shoe doesn't fit you properly then it just keeps pulling on the heel and then it just keeps rolling up

like a sort of a Johnny I mean I shouldn't really say that doesn't it but yeah you've got to be careful You've got to be careful. Can you swear at Disney? Well, I actually have become sort of conscious of my swearing. And so I said to the kids that I'm not going to swear at all on this trip. So far, I've been there a week. I've sworn twice.

Wow. Yeah. What brought the swears? I was on a roller coaster. I dropped an F-Boh. Yeah, everyone swears on a roller coasters. And then there was some quite ferocious. The weather out here is like, it's either absolutely roasting or there's like a apocalyptic storm going on.

So I did drop the, I did drop as far away. Someone's coming into the lounge behind you, mate. Someone's coming to the lounge behind you. Hold up. They've heard you talking. They closed the door. It feels like the beginning of a murder, like a sort of serial killer thing. I've just seen them out of the window.

They're in a t-shirt saying, parenting hell. That's unfortunate. Imagine that they come all the way to Disney and you see a rival podcast when you go for the Disney lunch. Or you just go, what are you doing, mate? I did a podcast. I don't know you did a podcast. Can I say something that would make you swear?

Getting egged. What do you mean? I got egg this week. What are you talking about? I got an egg from a moving car thrown at me. What I can only assume is, was students, six-formers celebrating their, you know, leaving school or whatever. So where were you? Where were you? I was just walking.

Why do you always have better stories than me? I'm on holiday and it's like a bit hot. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's break down our fucking stories, right? You're at Disneyland, right? You've sworn twice. You're having an amazing... I got egged just at the road from where I live, and you're like, oh, you've got better. That's an amazing anecdote.

Oh, what's my story? I'm staying at Disney. First of all, it looks completely out of touch. Second of all, oh, I've sworn twice. That's the highlight of my week. You got eggs? That's the highlight of you. I got egg, yeah.

I was going in for a day in London, had an audition, kind of other little bits going on. I thought I'd, you know, dressed the cordially. Things going on. Well, it's an audition. Can I just tell you, boy, when I said got an audition at the moment, I'm a fucking rain of severed. This drastic fucking world's gone out.

I've gone into two of these auditions where people are going, oh, it's a weird that you turn that down. Anyway. But you've turned it down. It's like a... I got dressed for the day. I got dressed for the day. I got dressed for the day.

Felt very, very good about myself. God, that guy had real, fucking, yeah, he had some vibe about him. He's not parenting hell fan. he yeah he looks like he listens to like Brendan Schwab he's a big UFC fan he's got he's got Jake Humphrey high performance room all over yeah he actually walked to me like Colin McGregor I had to double glimpse to make sure it wasn't him yeah let's not let's not mention that guy please okay yeah so I so I get dressed I'm feeling good

about myself feeling positive about the day ahead I start walking out the street I get about nine ten houses up for my house and then someone's shout something to this moment, I don't know exactly what they shout, and an egg thumps me, so it gets the back of my neck and my shirt. So I feel like saying smash me. At first, I thought I'd been shot. I'm going to be honest with you. I thought it's a drive-by, which I've always thought might be the way that I die. Not where you live. Mate, you don't know, you don't know, mate. You don't know, mate. You fucking out, man. You see, like, you know, if someone's going to get you, they're going to get you.

If I was walking near your place and I felt an impact, I'd most likely, the most likely percentage-wise probability is a stuffed olive well it was I put my hand back I knew straight away what had happened so yeah I'd see I've had it done to me before I I felt the egg the yolk I felt some of the the shell look behind me a shell on the floor completely ruined the top my top and sort of like it got into my so I had to go back home delay the audition what was it at Berford Brown duck it was it was I think by the looks of it was it was it It was like a big egg.

It was a decent size egg. Yeah. And then, yeah, went home, got in, I told Catherine what happened. She kind of laughed. I sort of had to exaggerate a bit and say, I thought I'd been cut as well, so she had to check.

Grace, then you've got to tell me your fucking three and a half year old, Daddy's been egged. We don't have to. Well, yeah. She was like, why are you back? Yeah. And I'm like, Daddy's just coming back to change his time.

You don't have to, don't, listen, the respect to your kids is something that's very limited in time. further damage it by admitting you've got eggs out in the street because somebody didn't like King Gary Series 2 mate I don't think

do you know what the one hope of guys I think it was really really early and I think they were just looking for someone to throw an egg at you know what I don't think I don't think they've been driving around looking for me you know like in boys in the hood where they're driving around looking for Ricky

yeah I don't think it was that I hope it wasn't you know did you did you feel um because one of the things one of the things happens in their situations is you feel like an anger but you can't do anything with that anger because you can't catch the people because they just drove off i said the thing where i sort of when you fuck it like that and then i just sort of went to run after the car and then realized i wouldn't catch it and then saw them other cars

were going past laughing um for both directions so it was a convoy no no no but other cars had seen what had happened i mean it was a i will give the person they're due it was a fucking head of a throw. You've got to say Nigel Farage is right, man. It's lawless in London. Yeah, yeah, you're getting egged. Do you think it was immigrants?

That's what you text me. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. That's what you text. You're such a snide. Because this is the first thing you've heard about this story. You're such an absolute. Just been egg by some immigrants, mate.

I'm going to go down a hotel and cause an uproar. Hang around outside of the hotel for fucking 18 hours, chatting things. I'm going to give up my job and just. Yeah, I'm going to sign on and just really make a fucking impact on it. The protest is over. There's still some statues and they're defending. I was going to bang really hard on the window of a fucking holiday inn.

There's no immigrant staying here. Just some sort of sad businessmen. If you're going to protest something, protest bigger glasses for the orange juice, for the breakfast. Yeah. Oh, right. Yeah. Exactly.

Anyway, sorry, what happened about the egg thing? I've totally jumped a lot. Oh, no. I mean, that's it. I got home, I got changed, flunked the audition, made the audition all about the egg. They were like, okay, cool. Yeah, but that's part of the audition, you know,

what I've read, I mean, I've never been successful in an audition or will I be. But what I've read is that you start working the room as soon as you walk in, right? You work the room for 30 seconds to a minute. You don't know it's been six minutes talking about egg throwing and the sort of like how it began. And then make, like, the fact that we're living in some of the most fucking awful times was real fucking abject poverty and awful things happening, sort of like globally and then you get

some big foreskin who walks in and starts talking about getting hit by an egg like it's the worst thing's happened. I think that's about where you go on, man. I think you've lost touch a bit here. Some kids are basically fucking woken up. They're on the way to chess and word of adventures for the day. They've brought six eggs and they're just looking for six idiots to throw them out.

Do you know what? They've picked one. I mean, no disrespect, but you're a big target. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know what? That's probably, I wouldn't even take it as like an insight. I would say that's them getting their eye in. It means that they can take out some sort of more challenging time. Jake, Jake, get your iron on the big lad here.

Get your iron. And then we'll fucking go past the school and take out a cut of the... It wouldn't surprise me if they'd go on, just roll down the window. Close your eyes. I reckon you'll still hit him. Mate, to think he was hanging out the window just to get that fucking shot. He was on the other side of the road, by the way. He had to throw it across the other

one lane. What do you think of that? behaviour. Look, I think number one, I know how this behaviour works. I know that there's four of them in a car and someone's gone, fucking nail this wanker. I know that that's happened. It's a horrible thing, isn't it? Because like, you and I are very similar, right, in our late 40s, but still like to think we've got some sort of semblance of calls. You know, I mean, we're in touch. But the truth is, young people think we're just the same as everyone else. We're just old, Theo's age, school leavers.

Dusty pricks. Yeah, what I've got his driving license. Someone else has just gone, right. I've got six eggs. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? They were quite fresh eggs. They didn't smell rotten.

That's right. That's a small mercy. And I think that shows you, there is still some hope for the youth. We used to drive around when I was a kid and shout things at people, which is arguably worse. I actually remember one of the coolest things I ever did.

I was friend zoned by this girl, but she picked me up on where we were not. I was really sort of right. So far, no unsurprising information. But go on. Let's get to the mother's story. presser and as we were driving down and um we've been to the cinema and had sort of like a half filled uh thing of coke and we were driving past we drove past a bus stop and there was a bin and

you know like the little bit the bin with like little apins four sides and it's got the little sort of envelope thing and uh i said something and i was like uh i don't want any more this coke and i'm going to throw it out and i threw the coke and it went into the bin and i was like did you see that did you see that and she was like no i was looking at the road and the bin but if you turn around now you could go the fucking Coke were in the bin

what did you want to do turn around and see the bin with coconut no no yeah she would have said it because it was in the bin

yes I'm saying you could do that throw a thousand times and unless you're fucking in both of them you know what I mean you'd fucking chugger to make it

or Freddie Fred and you know that's why that's why I think we're still in touch it's because when we're referencing a good throw we're using Ian Botham

that's what That's what shows me that I'm fingers still firmly on the pulse. Bloody hell, I did a thing the other day, made the kids really laugh. I felt like Charlie Chaplin. I felt like Buster Keaton. Honestly. So basically over here, before we came over here,

we read the weather reports and like it's like 40, over 40 here, right? Like most days, right? So you have to be like careful with hydration and all that. But one of the things is a big problem. Do you bring your electrolytes, Majors? Yeah, we did actually. So one of the big problems we got is, is as you, I don't know if you have this problem, but I do have this problem,

is your T-shirt looking disgusting early daughters. That is, that is a real literal dampener on events when you're just walking around looking like you're wearing a kebab rapper. So I was like, so I was like, what do I do? So I basically brought all of my Arsenal shirts with me, right? But the problem is now, I mean, I've even done stand-up about this. I'm now a guy going around Disney every day in an Arsenal shirt, right?

And one of the things I didn't realize is how much football banter at least, obviously, right? So the other day we get into the lift. I'm getting a lift on my own. and a kid sent me downstairs like a butler to get some snacks for them. So I get in the lift to come up and this guy goes, oh, after you. I would say, by the way, I love those moments, how old. Just add time on your own when you're sent to a mission for the family. Yeah.

I go to the shop. I'm very paranoid that I'm getting it wrong or whatever or like, do you know what I've got the wrong snacks? I've got really in my head about it. I feel like you feel like you've important, like you're the, you know, that's your sort of job. Like, you know, almost like a caveman. You're going to find a cat, you're a hunter-gatherer. It's nice to say this, Tom, because the other day we're having a conversation when we're in the queue for one of the rides, and we talked about what might happen if one of us died, either Lisa or I.

And Theo said, and I direct quote, we'd miss you, but in terms of the effect on our parenting, I would say it would have zero percent effect. Wow, geez. And then he said, I don't mean that in a bad way. That means that he means it really sincerely. Yeah, that means he really means it. Anyway, so I'm going to let's start. I do love Theo. That was something for me to...

I do love Theo, but I will say, out of all your boys, I love the fact that my relationship with Theo is at the level it's at. I don't know if I could... I don't know if my mental health could take more of them in the relationship with Theo, where Theo is going to pick up on all of my frailties. Well, what I would say is, if I was to pass away, which would have zero effect on the parenting, Theo would definitely be able to take my place on this podcast.

He's got the... Yeah, like... Yeah, but also, by the way, I can... Our relationship, getting slammed by you is one thing, because I think we're a very equal fucking thing. Fio is infinitely cooler an eye. If I talk Fio, the egg story, he just absolutely pissed himself laughing and going,

oh man, I really want to throw an egg at you myself, you'd be duff bag. Well, the other thing is, is that when I sort of having to go at you, you know, there's an underground, there's a bedrock of like respect and love, whereas I don't think you'd feel that with Theo. No, it'd be cold.

Yeah. The other thing he did was, we were coming back from, we'd got an Uber somewhere else yesterday. We're coming back into the Disney hotel and they asked me to get my room key out and he was in my wallet which is in my bag

and I couldn't find it in my bag and so I was like, look at it I know, this is exactly what he did so I start looking around in my bag and he was in the back going oh no, oh no, oh no it was just so... I'm with Theo there.

It was so embarrassed. I don't know why I think like there's a cool when a woman's looking for a handbag there's a sort of almost like coolness to it when you see a man hunting through a bag sort of as soon as he undoes the zip to open the bag it's like he's opening

sort of all the anxiety that rests inside of him so then he's just like anxiously looking at I've never seen a man call him for a bag oh yeah there it is yeah the other thing that happened oh gosh Frank shaking like he's diffusing a bomb

the other thing that happened is that I then in trying to pull my wallet out I pulled one of my I pulled my main debit card out of my wallet and it fell into my bag and then when we got into the hotel went to pay for something something and I couldn't find the card.

And I said, Lucy, you're going to have to pay for this. And she had to say the words to me, okay, Rommish, please try not to panic. Because I, I, I, I, it's like they're waiting for their grandparents. Oh, darling, no, no, no, sorry, sorry,

we'll, we'll pay for that a minute. It's okay, don't panic. It's probably, it's probably come out of your wallet. it when you were going through your bag or when you're all anxious in the car. That is what? Theo just turned around and going, I can't do this anymore. Yeah.

Do you know what? The worst thing was, then I'm starting going to start going, well, I'm going to have to order a new card. They're not going to get it out to America, so I'm going to have to wait until we get home. You're going to have to transfer money to your account. It's just in my bag. It's just in my back.

Look first. Have you? Just have a look in your bag. Honestly, babe, have a look in your bag before you completely implode. You know what's worse than the implosion? is the rush of adrenaline and euphoria I'd found it. So then that's even more of a nick where you go, God, bloody hell, it was just in my bag.

God, sorry, Lisa, thank you so much for seeing me to do that. No, no, that's cool. I just think, I think we need a bit of perspective and the tears. I think you've got a bit of a magic touch. You just, you knew it was in my bag and you said it was in my bag and I didn't believe you, but it was. If I could say one thing, darling, before this happens again, it's just the tears and the shouting and the spitting

just felt unnecessary. where do you yeah and just going Catherine has a go out of me I do this thing I go from one to a thousand emotionally I'm wrecked and then then I find the thing or the thing's resolved within minutes because it's not a big thing and then I'm like

oh and I'm relaxed and I've won the World Cup and Catherine's like yeah why are you like that that was such and as necessarily even grace now just raises her eyebrows when I'm like that yeah Lisa just said to me after she goes I'm glad you got your card and I think we've probably have to wait for

next birthday before we you know do any sense yeah yeah yeah yeah oh hello who have we got here oh wow is that is that a cleaner yeah it was just a nan a wholesome she looked like a wholesome american nan no well i can't say this i can't comment right now yeah what's by the way can i say that all of the people there none of them are smart they all know but it is magical though yeah no it's magical but no one looks like having a good time if i was to like pick the thing I mean, you're having a great time, but everyone else there. By the way, can I send a football shirt thing? Yeah.

Number one, Arsenal football shirts, you're in a good place for the festival. And I quite like the new West Hampshire. They were very good enough to me to send, for my work I did with them, they were like, we're going to send you the new home shirt. They sent me the new home shirt, but have printed just my name on the back. No number, which, name and number anyway. So it just says Davis on the back. like I don't think

I think there's an age limit to having a name a number one it would certainly your own name on the back of a football shirt do I mean having like you know potentially you can have

if you like a player enough you never you know but to have your own just your name out doesn't that stop you like from you doesn't it stop you from wearing it out of course I won't be able to

unless I've got a jacket over it no I won't be able to wear that around the house well wear that around the house look can I just say by the way Catherine who quite likes football has like she's not into the she's not mine the older West Ham shirts

like some of the sort of like this one's not bad but bad boy it's quite a nice shirt but now I've got my name on the back up if I wear that man in the house she's literally just like oh god I am I had an unfortunate thing where one of the shirts I brought out was a basketball

shirt from when we did rum rummish verses and then I'm sleeveless yeah which was a big move for me it's like I felt like I was wearing a Wonder bra not in that way but I just mean like I felt I felt exposed Did you feel sex? Yeah, my underwear. No.

That's what Wonderbrough does it. It makes you feel quite sex. Yes, yeah. Actually, to be honestly, yes, I think what you're highlighting is that Wonderbrow is a terrible example to use in this instance. But what I mean was I'm saying, you're wearing a mini skirt, but you, yeah, but you're not sure. But what? Okay. Well, you're wearing a mini skirt to a funeral.

Yeah, basically. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What made it worse was that as I arrived at the park, it was pointed out to me that it had Ramesh across the back of it. I actually made a fuss Jesus oh my God also but can I just say that

not Ranga Nathan not Ranga Ramesh that's what that's what kids have on there that's what kids would have on their back before they're yeah if you didn't know me

you go that's somebody that wants to get recognised at Disney it's been his first name across the neck of a shirt or it's oh god that guy came here a couple of years ago and he lost his bank

bank card for like six hours and had a complete breakdown and he actually made his children and wife cry not were they what were they worried

about the bank card no they were just embarrassed that he was related to them humiliated I mean actually arguably this is more humiliating how do you have to

wear it the whole day what am I going to do well I could have bought a Disney t-shirt I suppose you'd put a Disney t-shirt it looked cool you get a you not wore a Disney

I think you can you can pull off With the glasses, nice cap, cool pair at your board shorts. By the way, I've got some nice board shorts now. They're quite in. And a pair of, like, trainers. Well, that's the end of you suggesting I'm wearing board shorts

and if they're actually in. Look how the tables have turned. No, but, like, how, by the way, can I just say something? Why are you buying stuff that's in? Can I just ask you that question? No, I don't. When does buy stuff you like? All this time you've been rinsed to me,

board shorts. Now you've been told they're in, you've decided you're going to buy some board shorts. I'm still wearing a very high-cut thing that I can show off my long legs. Anyway, I was about to get into a lift the other day. First of all, I keep getting Arsenal banter and also the boys love wearing Arsenal shows. I think he's legitimate if you're a kid. But a kid, yeah. So anyway, I'm about to get in the snacks. I've managed to it. I've got my bank cards. I'm not, I've not had a panic or, like, got into a little tears. The guy goes to me after you, and then I get in, he goes, and he looks at me, he goes, I'll tell you what, wouldn't I let you get in a lift first if I don't know you're an Arsenal fan? I thought, oh, God.

And then I go, okay, who's your team? Are you spurs? And he goes, no, a team that's a little bit of a problem for you, mate, Liverpool. And I go, okay, I didn't want to go, it's not really a problem for me, because I'm not actually, I don't play for Arsenal or have any sort of skin in the game but yeah okay um and i keep get we keep i keep getting that from like yeah yeah and then i don't know why but arsul become really popular they're hated they're hated i've got like it's a relatively recent thing and i don't want to like pin any blame on anybody but if i was to arsenal fan tv i don't think it's helped do you i mean it was funnier when you were doing badly i'm not talking about arsenal fan tv as in the actual arsenal i'm not talking about them

necessarily i'm talking about the the doorstepping of fans after the game when they're like highly emotional it's just a bit like it just makes us look it's i just don't want to hear a bit muggy like you're a bit muggy i just think like also there's a resentment because you're getting like all the sickest like even like look liverpool fucking amazing club city but you know whatever you are every season getting all the fucking lounge wear you're you're the looks you're getting even for like a team at a moment on face value isn't winning anything. You've got every year the best shirts. I mean, you've got like, that's an Ian Wright limited edition.

You're not getting at any other club at the moment. No, but I would say is that I don't think that a club should be celebrated for the shirts they've got. If you're saying to me to form of consolation, the gear's good. But the point is, is that I personally think, right, Liverpool are going to win the league next year, right? I think it's almost untouchable, right? But I just feel like sometimes fans can sound a bit spoiled.

Like, for example, if I take you, for example, if you're a West Ham fan and you watch Arsenal fans bleating on about what a crisis we're in, you must just be thinking, are you joking? Do you know what I mean? And like, I just feel like coming second, don't get me wrong, I know we've become a banter club for like bottling it or whatever,

but I can't believe I said those words that I know we become a bander club. But the thing is, it's great to be, like, I think we're in a great place. to be challenging for the league. We're like getting good players. By the way, can I say at the moment you're very much sounding like a guy who thinks his wife's going to leave him? Just trying to reassure himself.

Let me tell you something. There's good reason for that. But what I'm saying is I'm not actually that aggrieved with her. I actually feel quite happy for it. Neither should you be. But can I also say... But that's what I'm saying. What I'm saying is... I hate going into football stuff on here because it's not football. Maybe you should do a spin-off.

We should do a spin-off. We should do a spin-off. Yeah, because we can better... I'm in a loud. Andreep a Disney hotel just to make up this hour requirement that we have every week you want to do an extra spin-off

are you mad? Anyway, I think my, but I think you're not like it's, I think Chelsea

are going to be a very tidy package this year. I think that's I think. I think City have brought well. I think that

I'm going to end up on. No, no, listen. City look unbelievable. Liverpool look unbelievable. Chelsea look unbelievable. There's a very real possibility. I mean, I think Kudis is a great signing,

by the way, for Tottenham. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I mean, how they managed to get him is unbelievable, do I mean? But they've got like... Give him a season and when he stops caring. But I will say this. The only guarantee I'll give you is West Hamill finish above all the other teams we've mentioned.

But anyway, you know what? Do you know the weird thing of it as well is that that banter? I find I get that banter even without a football, like when people overly do the banter. like the big the big fellow thing I find at the moment it seems like it's really having to come back at the moment yeah that's just sort of

well it's almost like school levels people just making a joke about being me being tall it seemed like it went away for a bit and now we'll be out and about and people were sort of like make a joke but someone came up the other day just to get a photo and they were like

oh my God I did not realise you were such a fucking freak mate I don't realize you were so fucking such a freak and I was like well tall would be Tall would be a description you could have used quite perfectly, I don't realize you were so tall, but freak. Whether it's because it's sort of the end of summer and everyone's feeling a bit crazy, along with the egging, it's like I think that there's, you know,

and you put you wearing the Arsenal shirt, and also, might I say, by the way, if you're wearing a sleeve of shirt out, your guns have got to be looking good. No, they weren't. They weren't. It looked ridiculous. There's other people they're wearing basketball shirts

and they look great. Your arms have got to look. You've got to be, yeah. I know, I know so. I know so. I would not have the confidence to wear one. No, but you'd wear a sleeve to stop for like, I don't know, an online advert for your protein company.

For a protein bench. Yeah, if I was bullied enough into it, yeah, yeah. Every time I wear one of the sleeve of stop, I look like literally that I'm going out to go, I'm just going to head down to the hotel and just sort of like scare some people are really terrified enough as it is by thumping against the door

and asking what the breakfast are like. So anyway, I don't think, I don't think I'll be doing this again in the future. What were, what would you wear? I don't know. I think I should buy some, like, sports tops. Sports tots that have got no branding on, like, yeah. Or, or Botox myself to within an inch of my life,

so I don't sweat anymore. Like Prince Andrew? Yeah, basically. Just woking it. Yeah, you express it. You know, what about some Cuban or Hawaiian shirts with the moustache would look sick? I just think I've already, look, the tash and the mullet, I've already taken me down the road. I don't want to go any further down.

I would say, by the way, if you in a fucking sick Cuban shirt would look absolutely delicious. Well, they had a Tommy Bahama shirt in one of the Disney shops. It had Mickey Mouse on it, obviously. But I suggested to the boys that I wear it. and let's just say the caribus just put on it pretty quickly. Yeah, but you can't be wrong around like with Mickey Mouse on all your clothes now. That can't be a thing you do. But I would say that's a good look for you.

Your tattoos, you've got sick arm tattoos. You don't want to show the whole arm, but give us a little bit. So we go, fucking on, look at that. Yeah. You know what I mean? No. I mean, I have been giving a little bit. You know what I've been showing a little bit.

Yeah. You've got a vibe to you. By the way, I saw that. I saw that the trolling you got talking about that about the from the Albanian dude

that was fucking full off jeeps it made me laugh so much yeah it was an aggressive it was an aggressive takedown yeah

I liked it though I didn't mind it yeah Right, do you want to do a couple of emails? It's getting quite busy in here, so I'm going to have to... Yeah, there's a vibe in there now. Bear for one second. Mickey Mouse, the evolution of Mickey Mouse, can I say?

It feels like he's completely off the gate. He's, like, made so much money now. He's just like, he's not that bothered about what he does now. I can't remember the last time. What do you mean? What does that mean? Well, like, he was massive, isn't he? He was fronting his own cartoons,

own kids' shows. He's not actually made anything decent for quite a long time. Mickey himself, you, man. Yeah, Mickey, obviously he's now fucking, he probably is like earning money out of all the other Disney characters and he's like king of Disney. There's a relatively new Mickey and Mini ride at Hollywood Studios. It's like one of the guest rides.

It's like, yeah, yeah, it's a great ride. That's great, but he's not, he's not out there doing, he's like he just stepped off. He doesn't need to, does he? He doesn't need to. Well, yeah, no, because Grace knows you. He is, and I'm like, he hasn't done it for the years. Don't get too fucking invested in him.

Yeah, but I do think it's an example of like, sort of an older head that's been around for a little. bit going, do you know what, I'm going to step back. I'm sure that he's him and mini are set for life. Yeah, rather than, I don't know, doing a weekly podcast desperately trying to cling on some relevance. Can I say it's not long for that someone comes up the idea of Mickey Me doing a podcast together?

Well, what I'm saying is, I think there's a strong argument that maybe we should think about following the Mickey model and just, you know, riding off into the sunset. I'll tell you what, mate. The moment we come close to Mickey Mouse, won't we will do that. At the moment, we're scratching about. At the moment, me and you are fucking Goofy and Donald Duck. Let's not get ideas above our fucking station.

By the way, Goofy and Donald Duck, if you don't think that's ideas above our station, you're more delusional. Who would we be? I'd be that big, the big bad guy in the Duck Tales. Do you know what we'd be? Do you know, like, in one of the Disney cartoons where they're walking along, like, by a river.

And then there's some bits of corn. You'd be that horrible little grotty wolf that's in all of them. No, you know the stalks of corn that's sort of dancing along with the song? That has been up. No, actually, there's always an hour who doesn't really do much in them. And I swear it's a wolf, there's a wolf. Yeah, okay. Yeah, but again, essays basically in Disney cartoons.

Okay. I'll talk about cartoons. By the way, my episode of Rick and Morty was out this week. Oh, was it really? Yeah. Oh, my God. Can I just say? It's the final episode of the series.

very proud. Right. How big's your part? Not very big. It's, yeah. What do you play? You might notice the voice, can I say. Inspired by probably my favorite comedian. Are you winding me out?

Nope. You should have a watch, you what you think? I play a Jill with Lover. I play a Jilbert. Can you deliver one of the lines? Well, I mean, you've heard the voice before from, I don't know what take they went with. We did it quite, yeah.

Well, there was a lot of that going on. We've got a lot of, yeah, which got a lot of good feedback. You've actually done an amazing thing for me because I wasn't in Rick and Morty, but now I feel like I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's incredible.

Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Do I seem a little bit within myself on this episode? No, no, no. Can I just apologise to people? Because I am recording it. Basically, it was this or no episode. I actually, you're on great form.

I like this version of you. I think we should start doing it where you have to record all these in public places. Well, the last time was when my flight got delayed and I was complaining about a business class flight taken longer than I wanted to Australia for my tour. Hello, owl and wolf. I have a small gripe with one of the recent episodes.

The wolf on multiple occasions mispronounced the term troll or trolling. And in the nicest possible way, it was unbearable. I'm surprised the aisle didn't pick up on this it was constant sorry for the moaning love the pod and both of you hashtag tom for taskmaster regards to complaining cocktail the complaining cocktail is cocktail uh first of all how do you say it troll trolled and then the verb troll and then somebody's blank somebody Trolling.

Yeah, is that wrong? Trolling. Trolling. Trolling. Trolling. Troll. Troll. Troll.

Troll. Trolling. Trolling. I mean, this is going to drive them mad. If I've got it wrong and it's made you very angry, I'm very very sorry about that, but trolling. I thought it's trolling. Someone's trolled me. I don't know.

I mean, who knows? He's a troll. I was about to say it's a made up word, but all words are made up. So, well, apologies if that's made you angry. And even if this has made you angry, and maybe you should go and get elocution lessons. Okay, what I'm going to say now, complaining cocktail, is you've definitely touched a nerve. No, no, no, but

I don't know how, I've said that for years. No one's ever even, you know, even, you know, I had a troll. I was called troll for a while. Do you what I mean? I sort of, it's a sort of thing that I feel like is one of those words that's come into parlance, God, relatively recently, so you kind of, whoever, however you

want to pronounce is up to you, really. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Um, okay. Uh, so this is a bit more of a serious one. Okay. I'm going to read one that's a bit sort of complaining but I actually understand the complaint and the other one's a bit positive

alright hona bear with me on second it's good to get his complaining ones out of way oh here we go here we go here we go um hey guys by the way before I've read this email I think they've got a point okay so I'm just going to like

so I'm just warning it it's nothing to get upset about but I do think they have a point all right okay um hey guys I hope you well I absolutely love you guys I've listened to the podcast for years and look forward to each week.

However, I'm emailing because I'd really love if the conversation around weight and bodies and glow-ups eventually went away. With weight loss jabs, the culture and conversation around weight loss is unbearable right now, and it's really hard for various people, including those who struggle with self-esteem issues. Fat people are okay with staying the same size, as well as people with eating disorders. Equating someone's worth to what foods or takeaways eat or how much they are genuinely negative and worrying message to promote, as well as suggesting you can only love yourself if you look a certain way or a certain weight. even the notion of putting major emphasis on being a certain health can be problematic

as many people can't be or aren't healthy for various reasons and they're still deserving of acceptance. I truly understand and appreciate you guys feel like you've gone on journeys which want to be acknowledged, but people who love you, family, friends or even fans, loved you before weight loss. It's literally the least interesting thing

about either of you as it is anyone. You're more than how you look and many of us have listened to this podcast, a distraction to this stuff. I don't want to appear like I'm telling you off or dictating what the podcast should be, but it's a really hard listen sometimes, hearing about weight loss over and over in such a flippantly positive way when it's such a complex issue. I hope you can understand, and I'll be so appreciative if, and I'm sure some others would be struggling would be if anything of this was taken on board.

No worries, if not, I do understand if you're free to talk about what you want. Take care of many thanks, flow. So, listen, what do you think, first of all? I think it's a very at point. I think actually, weirdly, it's just a strange thing because I don't think, either of us really talk about it in stand-up. I think it's become a point because this is something we're on a platform here where it's, and it is something that's, you know, we're probably more open about how we feel and we're talking about honesty and it's not, we're not looking for, it's not necessarily

looking for material jokes. This is a platform in which we talk about, you know, how our feelings are. I would say, weirdly, I'd like actually had someone speak to me about this impact. person this week, after what, you know, and, you know, and I did, I was very conscious of how I spoke about, you know, Manjara and actually, in general, just how maybe both has came across, like, well, certainly actually how I came across in that. And, and I wasn't trying to be flippant. I wasn't trying to be rude. And I actually completely understand everything that this person that Flo has said here and completely, I sort of agree with that, actually. I think it's,

is probably something that we've, you know, it is, we've, you know, like today, for example, I don't think we've mentioned it at all and it's like something that we're, I think someday, it's like, you know, this does, I guess the, the curse of this podcast is at times, we don't have a structure, we don't have a format and we've very much come to this podcast in how we feel. It's never, like, and I think sometimes, and every episode is very varied on the basis that wherever your head is at that any one point when we switch on this computer and we start talking I can straight away I usually tell quite quickly how where you're at and I think vice versa and I think that sometimes we probably get that wrong a bit and I do apologise for that

I think sometimes it can probably be a bit self-congratually whatever a person from before get involved and felt me criticised about getting a word wrong you know but I think the I think the truth is that the one thing that I know that you and I would would never want to do is cause any upset or offence in anything we're chatting about. We're just chatting as ourselves. But I completely take that note on board. Again, and I do kind of want to say, when it comes to health and any point of what I've done is never been about. I still have a lot of the same hangups I've always had, but also I was never doing this as a thing, as a glow. up. It was literally, and Robert was going to agree enough, mine was just a very big health

concern. It was a very big, like, you basically have to make this change. And if you don't make this change, you're not going to be here to see you got to autograph. It was that serious. So my thing wasn't a matter of me sitting here going, oh, I want to look a certain way. My way was a doctor sitting me down and giving me basically this is what you have to do. And sometimes I think actually I've probably spoken about things. I should have probably been a bit more earnest about that or I should be more open about that didn't necessarily feel right at the time but also sometimes

you know and now I think when we're both talking about things we maybe both be a bit flippant we you know about certain things but yeah I mean look the truth of it is the truth of it is it's like you know Tom I don't want to go into details over it because Tom's not going to do so but Tom had

like a big health scare and you know I got told something similar not as radical as Tom but something similar but the truth is you're right flow that it is not the it is not the most interesting thing and it is the least interesting and for some people it isn't as simple as like you suddenly change your diet and start exercising more and everything gets solved and the other thing is that i'd be i'd want to be clear to you and i'd speak for both tom and ask me when i say this

is that the idea if you lose weight your suddenly be happy with yourself is just not is a fallacy It's not true. You either you find something new to fixate on or they're still not happy with whatever you've managed to do. And actually, the truth is, I think, and actually I did talk about this on stage, is that there has to be something upstairs that you sort out in order to actually,

that's the true solution, is to kind of work out something in your head because you have to become sort of happy with yourself in a way. And obviously it's about being healthy, but at the same time, it's about, like being happy with yourself and being kinder to yourself and I think that's something that we can all do but listen anyway the reason we've read the email out is you make some good points and we're very sorry genuinely um for any discomfort we might have caused so yeah thank you so much

for your email okay one more yes do one more would you very well very beautifully written an email of that. It was very, by the way, there's another complaint about me actually here that I'd quite like to deal with quite quickly. Dear Wolf and Al, thank you Tom for thinking of the people that have to clean public toilets. This is in response to our public toilet discussion. I used to be one of them and yes, I did take it personally sometimes. I always think about the consequences of my actions, even when I've messed up and who it might affect. And I'm quite surprised that Rom's stated these people are not being malicious. What are they being then? If you create an unnecessary mess, someone has to come along and clean that up.

I'd just like to be as kind as considerate as possible, like you do, Tom. Simple thoughts and actions like this would make a world a better place. Tom, love you, brother. So can I just deal with this? So obviously quite annoyed with me. I wasn't saying that it was okay to do that. I don't know why you're laughing, Tom. I didn't mean to say it was okay to do that.

What I meant was the person, I don't think the people are deliberately thinking, I'm going to stick it to the cleaners by doing this, okay? I don't think it's. appropriate either i would never do that i do think it's disgusting i want to be clear on that but i don't think they're doing it in a vicious way i just think they're being inconsiderate also a crime to be inconsiderate but that's the point i'm trying to make okay and i'm sorry really sorry i feel quite beautiful going into the end of this podcast feeling quite sorry for yeah we need a fucking out you put a lot of pressure on the fucking roundup at the moment

yeah i know um okay hi tom and rom i'm writing to thank you for both the wolf and our podcast It's a funny, engaging and entertaining listen, the perfect company for my daily walk to work off and making me Google like a fall. However, on a much deeper level, something completely unexpected has happened. You've provided me with wonderful examples of non-toxic masculinity.

Your friendship, honesty, vulnerability, kindness and humor are a genuine inspiration. As a woman that's been surrounded by toxic and abusive examples of manhood for most of my 56 years, seeing you both demonstrate mutual respect and friendship has been a revelation. When a truly challenging period of my life began on the 1st of January, 24. I made a vow to myself that I would make this personal evolution, not an ending.

We're doing a lot of work on myself since, and I'm genuinely in the most secure and confident space I've ever been. The podcast has been an unexpected but important part of that journey. Thank you for demonstrating you can be strong, funny and vulnerable all at the same time. It's a gift, wishing you all the best, the oldest signet in town. But there you go. That's nice, isn't it? That's very nice. All of them nice.

Yeah, they are all nice, yeah. But I'm just saying, you know, I'm sorry about the toilet thing. Okay, Tom, this has become, this has now become untenable for me, okay? Is there another door then? Is there another door in there? There's lots of doors. There's people behind me. I can't really, anyway, can you please wrap this up?

Because we need to finish this. Okay, this has become, I think I might get kicked out. There's people looking, there's people looking over. Okay, so. Let me wrap this up quick and now. Okay. It's funny, isn't it? A blast from the past.

An old friend he'd seen on the train that you went to school with. Looking through the carriage, they smile at you, you smile at them. No words exchanged. Just a nod, a casual nod. Hey Phil, Mary, Lou. Good to see you again. That's what you think in your head, you never get the chance to say. Or maybe it's doing a podcast with your best friend in the whole goddamn world and you look over their shoulder and see a cartoon mouse jumping about and think, happy times, Mickey Mouse. Happy times.

sending you your love, brother. Truth of the matter in life is sometimes we don't get to say the things we want to say, have the conversations that are important. Not every beat of your life is like Dawson's Creek, nay, grain chill, or biker growth, where problems, situations get resolved and wrapped up in half an hour, send on their way to a edit suite, where people watch them and go,

huh, that's how life should be. Truth of the matter is entertainment is a different thing from the reality than which we all live. And sometimes the things that we wish that we said and wish that we did can rest hard in our stomach. Late at night, four in the morning when you're awoken, you just lay there in bed thinking, maybe I should have said this, I should have said that. Hey, you know what, Phil from school spattered my hair once. I said nothing.

Does that make me the fall? The truth is, Phil's probably forgotten about it. Life moves on. The waves of time pour across the beach of our life. and then as time passes forward and forward you hold on tomorrow and before you know you have a stomach full of fucking memories that you can't ever really let go

and all I can say is very much let them go truth of the matter is the only thing that they're anchoring is your own potential your own voyage so every time that you see someone from the past

or think of something that once happened and it makes you angry let out a sigh let out a blow hey the bruges are still there the scars still show but you know you what you owe yourself a clean

and better day and one more step on the road called you stay true really nice and I sort of had made it clear that I need to wrap up

and you've done possibly the longest final thought we've ever done in the history of this podcast so thank you for that level of consideration JT I recently interviewed Be Real from Cyprus Hill and I told him that my favorite Cypress Hill song was Psych a bit of Buckdown and he really opened up

and it was an amazing moment so please can we play that out play the podcast out with that. Tom Davis, thank you so much. God bless you, friend. I think I'm going to be asked to leave the premises. I'll see you soon, guys. Hey, take care.

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