Wolf and Owl - S4 Ep 33: The Summer Holiday Edition

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

With Rom in Majorca and Tom in Portugal at the moment, it’s a proper summer holiday special of the pod this week. So we’re talking… Rom being at the same resort as Rob Beckett, holidaying with friends, Tom’s need for some stool softeners, Rom’s Fruit ’n Fibre addiction, sun lounger etiquette, showing off to the hotel staff, pool-side quality time with the kids and some airport luggage carousel shenanigans. Plus, a debrief on Tom’s ending to last week’s episode, a belated congratulations to the Lionesses - and some email questions too about children using phones and a draconian coffee station cop at work. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Mighty Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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well I'm very nervous to announce because this is I'm talking from a position of extreme, almost breathtaking privilege, but I'm on holiday again. Wow. So only for a few days, only for a few days, I'm in Spain. Looking nice, I, boy.

Mi Yorker, actually. And where are you? Portugal. That's Portugal, so. Portugal. So hold up, because Mayorka's like now become a go-to spot, right? I don't know if it's become a go-to spot. But I don't know.

Well, actually, this is a... This is a bit of an awkward, not awkward situation, but where we're staying was recommended to me by... Rob Beckett said to me, you should go check this place out. Okay. So I booked it. Unfortunately, the reason he recommended it is because he likes it.

He arrives in a couple of days to the same resort. Wow. So you're a holiday with Beckett? No, not holiday with Beckett, but he is... Just by pure... This is not deliberate. It's pure accident. This is nice, though.

Okay, here's a question. Let's just do the other equivalents on the podcast. So, for example, Josh, just you find out that Josh Whittickham is coming out to where you are. It's very different. It's very different. Okay, because I know Rob better than you know Josh, fine. Yeah, yeah. But if I saw Josh out here, there's a chance of me and he would get a nice cup of tea together and have a chat. But it's very, you and Rob are like, you know, you're tight, man.

Yeah, okay. But the situation, the problem is. I think the only one would be similar maybe is Jamie. that might be a similar one. Jamie Rednapp. On the basis of someone I get on with and know well. I don't, well, okay, I'm surprised.

He wouldn't be holiday where we're not holidaying in the same place. No, but equally, equally, just based on what you just said there, I think your, what your perception of what the friendship is and what his is, is not on the same page,

I would say, based on your... More for me, listen, let me tell you. No, but if I... Because I was saying, we were talking about a league of their own, I said to Jamie O, who have we got on the series? He goes, I think Tom's coming on, so it's good to have an acquaintance.

So that is just the direct quote. I very much always feel like an acquaintance of that show rather than a friend. That show, I often feel like a cousin who's involved to a wedding very last minute because Kevin Bridges or Josh Whitcomb couldn't make it. Maisie Adam couldn't make it. Oh, listen, we've had to get rid of it.

The flair's dropped out, so let's get in the workhorse. What, Cousin Bobby's coming? Is it going to be amazing? No. Is it going to be possible? Hopefully. Let's see what happens. He'll say something funny at some point,

even if he doesn't know what it is. Given the briefing of a lifetime, and hopefully the sun will shine on a dog's ass for a few seconds of this record. That's his relationship with League of Road. No, you know, that's not how people feel about you, bro. People love you. But anyway, the point I'm trying to make is, so Rob's out here, I would say,

for the last three days of our trip. Yeah. And Rob and I've made the agreement that we are going to meet because his kids aren't the same age as our kids. Yeah. And obviously, like, Rob's like one of my best mates. But here's the situation. We've agreed to meet for one lunch, and then that's it.

We're not, the holidays are not. they're not blending, do you know what I mean, deliberately, so. So hold up, like, but obviously, you're going to see him around a pool. Possibly, yeah. I mean, that is, that we haven't, that is, it's very sharp of you to highlight that sort of the, that omission, because the truth is, I don't, I don't know what happens then. If we, if we, I know you're like, you're naturally a people pleaser. Can I say how I think this goes down? Because I think you and me are very alike. Do it. I think you and me are the guys who can't help, but even if we've made,

though. You will be going, Beckett, adore Beckett. Beckett for me feels like somebody who can put a pretty hard lockdown on the fact you're having one some. So you'll be in the pool doing some laps or playing with these girls and you'll sort of bob up behind him and just go, ah, it's fucking great

you have one of the some of the mock towels and he'll go, feels weird, bro, because we had lunch yesterday. Yeah, well, listen, I do think you and I are similar. You'll do that thing that you do, which is really cute, but I love. Yeah, you know, all right. She in a bit, mate.

Listen. Just trying to hold my breath under water. Look, we're, let me know. Can you get one of the girls to time me? Ron, Ron, just quick one. Just fuck off, mate. Do you want to just fuck off? Yeah, I've deleted you and the answer from this holiday.

It's just Rob. Rob and family. just the production company getting in touch going quick one, Rob and Romish versus is over and we can't figure out why because it felt like the last series went really well but Rob and Danny have just got in touch and just said

absolutely fucking no chance so just wanted to know how what's going on from your end Oh that's a show because I said to Rob I'd said to one wanted two extra episodes based on how well they're lunches gone.

Well said, for someone who spent most of the holiday popping up behind him and talking about various drinks, you were very, very thirsty. Have you tried, um, they do a chili peanut calada? I call it a peanut chili larder. The kids tell me it doesn't work and to fuck off.

Should I do that trick while I jump in a pool until my trunks have fallen off? Fuck off near my girls, mate. This one we call them Margal. Lacer. Because the swan enjoys it. Who's the swan? Lacer, we call Lacey the Swan.

You know, from the podcast. From the substandard podcast I do with the big fella. I don't listen to that podcast. Get the fuck away from me. Yeah. But no, but in all seriousness, I know that you're right. I'm a people police, but I'm not that guy.

I wouldn't go up. No, no. No, we're in a very similar. We're in a very similar situation. We've got friends of ours who are out here at exactly the same time. Thus meaning that we're in a situation where we've got basically,

we went out for dinner with them last night. It was lovely. We're going to see them a little bit, but it's then also making sure me, Catherine and Grace, have a holiday between the three of us. You can't spend a whole time with Will Arnett and his family.

By the way, Catherine's holiday, can I just say Catherine's holiday got off to a sexy and romantic start. I've been filming, can't say what end of last week and I got myself into it. I don't know if you've been in this situation where I mean you've talked about this I got really really anxious about going for a poo

when I'm filming like on set even a trailer I'm sharing it I'm in a three-way trailer with two other actors thus meaning that if I go I go as you know sorry sorry we know the Wonka story yeah we know the Wonka story but listen

even forget the Wonka story you've 180 on this what's going on right okay this the show I'm filming It's very, you know the show It's a great show I'm very honored to be a part of it But the people on it are And the show itself is very cool

I don't want to be big dungers Who's known for having a fucking shit That's stung Everybody has a shit Tom Yeah but not on and also I look like the guy I was big smelly shits I think so basically

I think I held on them too long And I think I've given I gave myself quite serious constipation Right So we flew over here Poor Catherine This is and this is where I'm like, I need to be a bit more, I need to work out a way of being a bit more romantic back

because I adore and love this woman. But we got, the first afternoon here, she offered to go me, go and get me some laxatives. Because she was like, God. Christ almighty. She was like. How much, how much of the, of the reasons for you being contemplated, does she, does she, so did you say to her a lot, I didn't want to take a shit? not. It's really cool. Do you say all of that? No, I was like, I'm a bit bunged up. I think of, and neglected to go. We're talking about everything at that.

Me and Café, very honest passage of conversation. Yeah, I get it. Anyway, so she had to go to this Portuguese pharmacy and asked for her relax. So she came back with three different things, a stool sophomore, which I thought I was a few years away from her. I wouldn't be so short, bro. I wouldn't be so sure

Fyvercom and a proper laxative laxative so can I just say that I've never I've talked to you but weirdly actually one of our first conversations

was about trying to Yeah that was disgusting you talked about sort of basically shutting yourself in your house for a week and shitting your fucking soul out and apparently makes it feel better just like Tom

do you fancy it like it's a really like nice new budding new fringing your fence is going out this weekend. Oh, sorry, mate. No, I'm having one of my weekend clearouts. I'm sorry, what? I was going to take a shitload of laxatives and just lock myself in my house for the weekend. Can I just say, by the way, to anyone

listen to this, who might give it, don't try that. It's a ridiculous thing to try. Just to be, it's not only is it ridiculous, there's no benefits, it's also borderline, I'll describe it as dangerous. But for some reason, for a while, Tom thought that this is something you need to regularly do.

but this is it was almost it was almost pre like people getting obsessed with the jab it was like I thought it was a good like a fitness thing yeah where I could eat what I wanted all week yeah and then and then also and not only that I mean if I'm if I'm being unfair here please feel free to correct me but the impression I got was when you knew you're having one of your weekend clear as you really did overdo it the other way and the week running up to it we sort of thought you'd give yourself an amnesty that you could eat whatever you want for a week I usually book it in around like a really good week of

Premier League football boxing maybe some F1 and a Sunday so I knew that I had enough to give you it's a miracle that Catherine stayed with me through bits like that and also like yeah I became quite a laxative gene like I knew a lot about

laxatives yeah I was going to say laxative genius but I don't know there's a sort of like yeah so have you taken the laxatives now I know I took the stool softeners and it's helped I know you

like the breakfast buffer I've been you know someone actually said commented I was eating quite a lot of prunes so yeah um an all brand like a 70 old man

I'm gonna tell a disgusting story have I told this part about my addiction to fruit and fibre I've told you this I don't know no no no I must have done well JT can do a double check on this but I really got into eating fruit and fibre a few years ago

By the way, fruit fiber shout of Kellogg's one of the greatest series of the way. As is the sort of nature of myself, I managed to develop an addiction to it to the point where I was sort of, I went through a phase of pretty much eating it for breakfast, lunch and dinner

for a while. What? For that real problem. Wow. Real problematic. And when I realized I had a problem, this is so horrible, when I realized I had a problem,

it was when I was comparing, like hosting a comment, night. This is like when I first started doing stand-up. So I was doing like open-wise. So I was doing I was hosting a comedy night. I had about eight acts on and I'd eaten so much fibre.

So basically what I had to do was introduce the first act on. Go to the toilet and have the sort of door open so that I could hear the act. Shit almost entirely for the duration of their act. Stop just as they were wrapping up. Go back on. Do a bit more.

Introduce the next act. Then return to the basically in between every act I was on the toilet almost continuously throughout the whole thing only taking... What we're talking about poo was, how many poos do you think we're doing? I reckon I must have had about

I think 12 during the course of that Yeah, bad, really bad. At one point, on the very end, before I introduced the last act, I went for a shit and my heart came out, my arse up. So, and anyway, that was,

was when I realised I had a real issue, so I stopped after that. I do, only relatively recently have I allowed myself to go back into the world of beating sort of fibry serials. But apparently what I've been reading is, and I really do think Mandrill should move into the world of fibre, if you don't mind me saying. Yeah, yeah, fibre is very, is a neglected, a neglected thing, apparently. No, you know, I go, I'm obsessed with my fitness, pal, right, obsessed with, I know, at you.

Color accounting. And one of the things I'm always looking at is how much fibre I'm having a day. Alongside protein, carbs, everything. Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. You've got undergone a transformation. I've had enough fibre. You've undergone a transformation, I get it.

Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it. I love the vibe. Do you enjoy the transformation? Do I enjoy your transformation? You've done one as well. Do you enjoy yourself?

No, it's not, let's not start getting ourselves into, sticky pickle again but yeah i do yeah sure fine how are you finding like poor etiquette what's the poor etiquette where you are um like are you talking sun lounge is going early or no no it's not no they're not actually it's pretty well resourced uh this little yes it's fine i don't if it's a rush for anything i i try and i tend to be um basically if i have to rush for something i consider the holiday ruined so I consider a sunlanger like if you get one

great, if you don't, then do something else. Like I don't, that's why I find getting yourself organized. I can't get myself organized in my everyday life. So the idea... I'm slightly disagree here. No, but the idea of getting up early and trying to get in

and like panicking about getting to the thing, not for me, sorry. Anyway... I actually think the moment that you become... Let's hear you're rebuttal. No, no, but I think the moment that you are now in charge of, I remember sort of watching, sort of, you know, my dad's going down and getting the sun loungers, you know, every morning there's a slight victory. It's like getting in a cold plunge or anything. You get the good sun loungers, you know, you're slightly stepping in front of the, you know, everyone else there. No, I get it. You know, all day,

people are looking at you going, fucking hell he nailed that, mate. He fucking nailed that. I know, he got those sun lounges. No, it's good. It's effective training for going down to the hotels. But, um, but I, um, I, um, I, do you want to know, oh, mate, this is so. Have you made friends, by the way, have you made friends with the pool guys, the waiters at the pool? No, but there are like, like buggy guys around here

that sort of will pick you up and take you to the... What? Yeah, like, because it's quite a big, like, resort thing that we're at. And so sometimes... Well, it sounds big and grand.

You've got fucking taxi drivers on the fucking resort. Well, no, they're just like, there's like buggy's floating around the resort where we're at. Oh my God, you and Beckett are living so good. I've made really good... Not I made it really good, a really good bit of chat with one of them yesterday.

And we arrived yesterday. Well, no, nothing. I was just sort of was asking me about where I was from. And then I, you know, I did that. Oh, God, it was really, do you know, you do that? Oh, God, I actually got an embarrassed talking about it. Do you know, because I can recognize it in myself, right? So we're in this resort where, like, I imagine almost everybody's coming to the resort.

It's like, do your thing, you know, chill by the pool, hit the beach. actually all on resort, you know, all inclusive sort of all on the resort thing, right? So I did this thing where, do you ever do this thing where you're trying to show yourself to be different to the other guests? I could, I recognize it myself. Well, I just started going, I started chatting to the gun and he goes, where are you from? And I said, oh, we just saw, I don't say crawler, I'll say south of London. And then he's going, oh, lovely, lovely.

He goes, it's your first time here. And I go, yeah. And he goes, you're liking it so fun. I go, well, we only just survived you a few hours ago. but oh god we only survived you a few hours ago but so far so good not buzz

yeah yeah yeah yeah the correct reaction and then I went but you know sort of in a couple of days we're looking at sort of getting out of the resort and actually checking out of the end oh fucking hell like you're in New Yorker for fuck's sake

it's not like you're in Morocco yeah yeah or like really like Tibet where you're going to go yeah we're going to hang with some monks you're in New York yeah we might just go down to the strip one evening

just to sort of see a bit of the culture. It's just so, I just, I hate, I hate that thing of recognizing what you're doing in yourself, do you know what I mean? Like you can, as soon as I said it, I was like, I know what you're doing, you're trying to make it out like you're some sort of seasoned tourist, you fucking idiot. Yeah, probably go and try some of this local dish called Paella. Yeah.

And some sort of sangria from. Yeah, it's a lot of the stuff here you've got is kind of seasoned for the tourists, but, yeah, we're actually going to go to, I found a place, where they do pile over, they don't even cook the rice. It's just sort of the hard, raw grain. And that's how the Spanish like, because that's what we're going to do, yeah. Maybe, would it be okay if I came to your family's home

and ate food with you? How was your traditional past? Oh, actually, we ended up at the emergency dentist because it turns out I am more suited to the tourist player. Your turkey teeth took a battering friend. I've got a thing at the moment, with a guy who worked here who I went a slightly different tact

I made the observation to a guy where we got here first day I'm by the pool I've got the nice loungers I sort of make a little flipping 20 euros just to sort of like make him know that

you know he's okay we're having a laugh together and but Jesus Christ do you know what shame on me for being embarrassed about my behaviour thank you very much

I thought I'd feel better for sharing but actually I feel better for knowing that there's even on a podcast of two I can find myself a bigger bell end and then he looks a lot like Bruno Fernandez right okay

so he told me his name I said I'll probably call you Brunach and he went all right yeah and I said because of you look like Bruno Fernandez he said yes anyone said that he went five people today oh gosh

and then so then I sort of like double down a bit let me just let me just let me just, can I, I just want to stop you just for a second if you don't mind. Why would you tell a stranger they look like someone else? Why? He's not a stranger. We've had a bit of bad up to them.

Yeah, but you've got no way. He did the thing of going like, oh man, you were so big, you were so tall. Sure. And then sort of pretended to wrestle me by the pool. Okay. Yeah. But you, but you, yeah. I still think, first of all, that, by the way, you've got yourself into a right situation there

that you two think that's okay. But the second, I just don't think you tell people they look like people. You've got no idea how they'll feel about that. Mate, if you're telling a Portuguese person they look like probably the second best football that they've sort of exported for the last 25

years, they're going to be fucking over the moon. What if you get us that all the time? And you've got it five times that day? mate, the smile he gave me was like you literally walking into like a vegan bakery and they've still got vegan swells there. Yeah. The smiley

gave you, what, the guy that slipped in 20 euros at the beginning and he's probably going to have to give him a tip before he leaves, that guy? He gave you a big smile, did he? That must be because you made a connection in your soul. No, but we've had a bit of bad since. Yeah. Of course you have. Of course you have.

He's going inside to his other colleagues going, I just got to keep the big lug entertained and then it's going to be, we're going to be in the money. He's laughing. Did a bit of a wrestler. I pretended that Bruno Fernandez comment was funny. You know, he's loving it, stupid. I think we're having a rapport Of course you do

That's the game That's the game Yeah but I know I'm being played But I like being played sometimes Sometimes it's nice Sometimes it's nice to have that banter And feel like you know It's sort of like

You know Home from home type thing Yeah I get it I start to relax on holiday Once I've got a couple of different vibes going I'm ever to laugh With some of the staff I've made myself at home a little bit

You know What's Catherine doing while you're doing this, by the way? What Catherine's been doing since we've got a line on a sun lounge of reading. Do you know the best bit so far, by the way? Paul with Grace. Grace is like, first day here, she didn't want to go into big pool. She's not too scared to go in the big pool. My age's friends with a little girl.

Shout up in there, get Maggie. They then start playing. Maggie runs in the big pool. Grace just sprints after, jumps in the big pool, gets herself a little, flatable ring and then she's and now she's like daddy you teach me to swim so we're in there we're doing sweat i'm doing little swimming things she's jumping in with me it's like that is the bit where i'm like this is a very special time like i could do that all like literally i'd think yesterday we were there i think all morning from about 10 we're getting a pool to one have some lunch and

we're back in there till about four and it was just i was going to say it now probably when the happiest times of my life yeah well yeah literally being in the present really good good Good for you, man. I'm genuinely happy. You're the other thing I've done. Ramesh little note here, like very, some of you sort of say,

my phone, I've had my phone, wake up in the morning, we're having a little stroll to three of us. Don't look at my phone. This is what I'm talking about. I have to put breakfast, quite a lot of fibre.

Have a look at the phone while I'm going to the bathroom. Which is what? But that can't be longer than 90 minutes, going to? Wow, I'm in and out with all the fibre I'm having.

That's about a minute and a half. And then put my phone, in a draw and I don't pick it up until the evening. Beautiful. Lovely. Really good. I think it's a game changer. Been a bit of a nightmare in terms of sorting up this recording.

But listen, as long as you are getting that sweet, sweet me time. No, in all seriousness, I think it's a great thing to do. Really good. What's the time with the boy? I mean, you've had a lot of time with him because you've obviously like three holiday summer now. So it's like, it's been Charlie and Theo's birthdays in the last week. So Theo and Charlie, we did, for each of them, we did a day out with them, if that makes sense.

So we organised a little day for them. So Charlie, we went to this place called Gravity Max. And we did like a bit of, it's like a game, it's like three floors. And they've got arcades. Then they've got this mini golf. Then they've got go-karting. They've got all these bits. So we booked up to do loads of it.

During the go-karting, I need to give a shout out to a big Wolf and Al fan, Andy. who told me that he was on the same race as us. So it was Lisa, Theo didn't come. It was Lisa, Charlie, me and Alex. And then this guy, Andy and his son. And Andy, apparently Andy started the race and saw Lisa, saw our names and then got so distracted because he's a Wolf and Al fan

that he crashed into a barrier. But he's a massive Wolf and Al fan, so I give him a shout. So we did that. And then the next day we did, like, a little, we did a big day out for Theo. We took him for a little Arsenal tour, clothes shopping, went to see a show. So, yeah, it was very, very nice. What show do you see? Hades Town.

Very nice. The musical about Hades, actually, surprisingly enough. But it was already good. Like, really nice quality time. I do think the, well, a couple of awkward things that have happened. You know, in sort of in keeping with me. thinking I'm a cool parent and I'm not a cool parent. So the first thing is, we flew out to here and with EasyJet, right?

So do you know, like, when you do the bag drop, so you put the bag on the, on the conveyor, then you print out the tag, then you stick the tag to the thing, then you go send the bag, right? So we had a few suitcase, obviously. It's really busy, right? Early morning flight, really rammed. Lisa is like passing the case to me and then I'm doing all the admin stuff for some reason.

So you've got yourself a vibe you've got yourself a production line right? As I'm doing the tag for the last case Lisa decides to help and she pushes send bag while I'm attaching the tag to the bag right so it's sufficiently attached for it to sort of slightly take me

slightly take me with it And then, it's so embarrassing. Like, it's so embarrassing when you realize who you really are. So everything I do is a fake, right? I pretend, you know, you're trying to be this, like, nonchalant kind of cool, funny, cool, funny guy. And then something like that happens, and you show your true colours, right? So I'm trying to attach the tag to the suitcase. Lisa Press sends a back.

By the way, the decision to press send, I'm still not 100% convinced it wasn't deliberate, right? Yeah, I think with Lisa, I know Lisa said to you right? She's got a bit of a snide little vibe about her, Lisa. I think Lisa's got wolf tendencies. Yeah, she definitely, 100% got wolf tendencies. Anyway, I go, I slightly go with the things. I'm trying to touch the tag.

Did you let out an ache? I went like this. I went like this. I went like this. No, it's worse, Tom. I went... Oh, no. Lisa!

Lisa! Like that... Oh, no! Like the duff... Before the Duff-Duffs are in EastEnders. Lisa! Lease! Lisa!

Lease! Oh, mate. What, how loud? Loud. First one was... Lisa. So they're called Lisa! But there's nothing she can...

There's nothing she can do. Once you press send, you've sent it. Do you know what I mean? Like... So I just had to sort of really quickly seal the... Like... Stick the tag as a bag as well. Can I just ask one?

Because this is embarrassing. If the next part of this story goes like this, I will truly, I will adore you, Bill. It's the muggiest thing ever. Did you then show off to Lisa and the boys on the fact that as the bag was sent, you somehow managed to get the tag on it like you were a fucking superhero?

It is sort of similar to that. Do you know, like, it's not sort of bragging, but I sort of went, oh, God. I think I said something like, God, if I hadn't got that tag on properly, God knows where that suitcase I've ended up. That's even the worst. Yeah, Theo, you owe me one, mate.

All those nice new clothes you brought you. I could have ended up anywhere, mate. That should be fine. That should be fine. Yeah, no, I feel pretty confident. Go to get Gordon Ramsey's breakfast, eh? Pretty confident. That'll be heading right to where we're going.

I am not going to be having any nerves at the old conveyor. And I tell you what that is, that tag is sealed on. I imagine at the other end we're going to struggle to get it off, because it's so well blue. Despite your mother, who I will be talking to. Lisa, just a bit little with everything. You send the bag once the tag is attached. Ramesh, go fuck yourself.

I've had to spend four weeks with you. I don't know what the deal is with this. She's a pretty one, not the sharpest. I'm all right, boys? I'm looking Lisa just headbutch you in the fucking middle of Gatwick. Anyway, we've been half an hour into this, and we have not dealt with the elephant in the room, which is, hold on, do you know what I'm about to talk about?

Yeah, I think so. I hope so, yeah. I mean, yeah. I like to think I've got a sort of clutch on where your mind is at. So, yeah, I think go forth, go out, go, go, go. Well, I want to talk about the endings for last week's podcast. Yeah. So, firstly, my laptop, it's now fixed, by the way.

I've managed to get it fixed. I thought I was going to have to buy a brand new one, but I've had it sorted. The laptop went down. And I remember what I was about to say when the laptop went down. I would like to bring up in a minute. But forget all of that. I had a lot of messages saying it's the best ending to a podcast we've ever had. And now, on the one hand, delightful, I'm delighted that we managed to snatch victory from the jaws of

feet. On the other hand, if I was to sort of allow sort of any of my ego to slip in, a lot of people are saying it's the best names of the podcast we've ever had. It is the only ending to the podcast that doesn't feature me. They've sort of featured you. Yeah, but I mean, look, the truth of it is, is I'm going to have to start slowly coming to the acceptance. And I'm kind of fine with this. I've done some sort meditating and ruminating on it that this podcast might be better without me and and that is so you're a massive part of it i'd need something to bounce off even if it's just me doing your voice oh god it's so it's so horrible to know exactly what you're doing

i i've had to record that twice because i felt it the first time i felt like it felt very eggy i wasn't very sure if it was how i was literally just i was freaking out by the way No, you'll be incredibly needy about it because what happened was is I stuck up a story going, Tom ending this podcast was absolutely incredible, someone like that. Tom ending this podcast of that was absolutely incredible. I can't remember what exact word to use.

And then seconds later, I get, this is what I get a text. Off the back of me saying that, by the way, do you think that ending was okay, bro? Let me tell you what's happened there. is I've gone, Tom's looked at it, and he's seen me go in the ending it was excellent, or whatever.

And he's gone, I'd love to find out exactly why he thinks is excellent. Let me send up my following text so we can tell me all of his favorite things about what I did. That's what happened there, isn't it? I want to be told,

I want to be told him, exactly why I'm so funny and good. That is my favorite version of me that you've ever done. That is genius. Holy shit. Did you get many people reach out? Because what I love, everything seemed to come together. Everyone seemed to come together to sort of pray and send you rest wishes.

Yeah, that was horrific. My DMs were like, loads of people going, Ramesh, thoughts and prayers for you in your laptop, hoping you come through it, hoping that you're able to do. Like, actually, a lot of them were delivering it in like, obviously the intention was to take the pit, not take the piss, but like was joking. But actually a lot of what people said was quite sweet in the end. You know, the people, the animal pack are sweet. Yeah, love it.

Sweetest and soles. Lovely. Lovely. Beautiful. And so when I did that end up, but I had no idea if you would, shout out you, to be fair man, you recovered the file. That was fucking epic work. It was difficult.

And then J.T. Very tricky to the cover. Day T put the whole thing together in a really beautiful way. So, good teamwork across the... Really great. Well, yeah, really great team. JT., the Wolf and the Al, collaborating to deliver a substandard. You were almost like...

You would set it back just delivering the ball. J.T. was a sort of creative... Do you know what I feel like, I feel like it was like it was like, Champions League final I get taken off 10 minutes before the end and that's when we score all our goals and so I get to...

But me and J.T. Yeah. Me and J.T. at front. Yeah. I get to... I get to sort of be at the trophy left but everyone's sort of going

and it was kind of... It sort of was better after he went really, wasn't it? Do you know what I mean? I think Fernando Torres had that for Spain one year when they sort of took off a strike and everyone thought that would be

the end and then they put on sort of If you're a footballer and your team wins like that, there is part of you that's gutted, right? There must be. Of course it is. I know they love to I know they love to say in the TV is all about the team and all that shit. But like, you know, they've got individual egos, haven't they?

They're not putting the tip. Yeah. Can I say with a way and I hate going to, number one, shout at everyone who's got involved in the FPL. A shout out Romish actually putting the FPL back together again. He'll lose interest within three games. Well, I had to cling on to something because I'm not even actually required on the actual fucking podcast. It's self anymore.

So I had to do something. I'm now a fucking admin monkey. Now listen, I know I'm not good on the endings but I've managed to put together in a fantasy Premier League code. Please don't get rid of me. Please do my voice responding to that. I can't even have one of the voice.

That's so good. So tell me again why they thought I was so excellent when I was. Don't be silly, Womash, you what do you do? It's good that you did the FPO. I'm sorry that a lot of people are message. What exactly sort of things were they messaging in about how good my ending was?

Was it when I did my voice, or was it just like when I did the closing thoughts and like wrapped everything up and brought everything from the episode together? Oh, I don't know. They just said you're excellent, Tom, all right? Yeah, but what actual, like, How did they say I was excellent?

Like, what in the way did they say it was that I was good? Did they say I were clever? Yeah, they said you were clever and funny and funny than me, right. Thank you for listening. Anyway, but look, the big thing was you ended actually in quite a dramatic fashion. You were going to read an email. There was something you were going to say to everyone. Oh, no, because, you know,

we constantly talk about, whenever we talk about football, you apologise for it, right? Because it's not a football podcast. And obviously, there is another version of this podcast where you and I, we're both, like we could both go in on football for ages, right? But somebody got in touch to, not to critic, when I say criticise,

I don't mean criticise. They just said they were surprised that we hadn't mentioned the lionesses in their victory at the Euros. So that's what I was about to talk about when I got cut off on the thing. So we do, look, we are, I'd hate for you to think that we are of this subsection of men that do not support the INS is.

Congratulations to the whole team, it was an amazing. Watch the final with the family at home. I don't know where you watched it, but it was amazing, it was great, congratulations. I said this on the last time, they won that. Yeah, we watched it with Grace and sitting there with Little G watching that. Yeah, like Chloe Kelly is maybe now my favourite football. I think she's just ice cold. She's fucking cool as fuck.

I know. Yeah, shout out Chloe Kelly. Big fan of Chloe Kelly. We had her for the love of hip-hop, actually. And she was doing a 10-minute mixtape. She was great. I'm a big fan. And also, like, I did a video.

I think we talked about the video. I did a video about men complain about women's football. And just like, if you don't like it, don't watch it. It was the gist of it. And, um, mate, the, there are some people out there for whom women's football is just, it's, it's hit, I don't, I can't even explain how angry these people get it. It's wild. Do you mean? And then like, people like, first of all, complaining, like going, it shoved down my throat and I don't want to see it. It's shit while I'm having to watch it. And then accusing me of just doing the post because I want to look good in front of women or it. Do you know, but it's like there are some men that are so triggered by women's football

it's like, it's, it's, it's, yeah, but if it wasn't that it'll be something else. I know. Listen, like, the Euros, the Euros finished and then they just packed up their things and headed down to a Traveloch car park.

You know, well, you know, you've got to keep self-occupied throughout the year, haven't you? Anyway, I said, I made this joke. The worst thing they could think is actually going and bettering themselves. It's blaming everyone else for their fucking, the shit that was going on their life. You know, well, life would be so much easier if the women weren't fucking good at shit.

Life was better, wouldn't it, when we had control of everything? Yeah, and I don't understand it. They're still showing all the men's football that they were before, but now they say women's football as well. I feel attacked. Everyone else is to blame for the fact I'm such an ignorant... If anything, there's more men's football on than there's ever been before. But I'm still angry.

This is literally true, by the way. Yeah. they're showing more games than they ever have done before but also it's like do you know what I can't stand right I can't get it for the life of me don't understand

that women gardening programs oh no sorry gardening programs right gardening programs don't understand them don't get them do you know what I do

I just don't fucking watch them they're not involved in my ether I'm not involved in theirs they can go on an Anna and Titchmast can have a great career why the fuck do they keep banging on about herbs.

I don't give a shit about herbs. You just don't watch it, right? Just fucking knocking on. I don't give a fuck about what flowers are good in a bed. Fuck of flowers. Shut the fuck up about tomato, you fucking wanker.

It's everything that's wrong with this fucking country. Anyway, as we were doing this run, I recall a, I saw a Spotify review saying, stay off the politics, lads, you're going to lose listeners quickly, say.

So, those people, can I just say to those that were upset by what we just did, peace out. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for this. Take care. Thank you. Take care.

Hi, well, for now. I love both you guys. This is bad. I mean, I've not read this. I was another of the podcast, so please, please don't take this as an attack. Oh, no. Oh, good. So I just think it's a really big discussion point that needs addressing more.

Tom's story of the smash phone did make me laugh, and he told it beautifully. There you go. Well, well done, Tom, on that. Thank you, yeah. However, me and my wife find it mad that parents are still giving their children devices. This isn't a parental attack, because I never judge people's parenting skills. Every child and parent are different. Well, you did just say you found it mad.

But, okay. However, it seems that we're the only parents that aren't giving. our children devices. When we're out, we take in what's around us and involve the kids in the surrounding environment. Or if we rarely go to eat somewhere, we take colouring or stickers or chat, talk and play ice spy, etc. I just find it incredibly worrying how children on devices from so young and becoming zombies and losing creativity and play. In my opinion, kids have no need for devices until they're 16. If they need it for work, et cetera, they'll pick it up pretty quickly at 16. Do either of you find it worrying that she threw the phone

because she was getting angry or agitated with whatever she's watching. Also, YouTube Kids is one of the most dangerous things for kids to watch. Some bad stuff on there and dodgy adverts. Sounds like Rom's children have had devices from young too. Just feel like it's becoming the normal and is linked with so many mental health issues for kids. It's like giving you kids a packet of fags when they turn eight. This is set with love and care and concern, not an attack. Love you both.

One love, the dragon. Now, before you get into this advice on this, Tom, before you get into this, I know that whenever somebody talks about your parenting I mean this generally I'm talking about you specifically there's a tendency to feel got at so let's not feel got at here

Oh no no no so Let's address it Yeah so for number one On the pack of fags thing We did give Grace a pack of fags For her to have When we first got here on holiday And we said they were in their last

For the whole 10 days And she'd smoke them all By the first morning So That is classic GEE Yeah. But now I said to her, look, you smoke your 20 Benson's already there, you don't have them for the rest of the holiday. Any, on a more serious note, a dragon, that it's a very difficult, there's a part of me, so on the basis that Grace did that, as much as, you know, I made light of it, I tell the story that I tell, there was a, there has been, and for a while, as a part of us with Grace going that actually, you can notice a difference when she's had too much screen time or she's had too much time on a device. So we were, like, Like, you know, if I'm honest with you, we were coming back at that time that there's a few different things going on and we'd given her the phone just because we'd been out for like, we'd been out for a walk and we'd had to go to the doctors and we'd had quite a lot going on that morning and she'd been really, really good. And we're on the walk home, we were like, look, here's, do you what I mean?

You know, and had a device all morning. We've been to the weather. So, but also her behavior with it and her behavior when she has screen time is noticeably different. And I do then. and think like so for example from there we're like we're going to cut this right back even down to the point of her sleeping you know her just just how her behavior in general she has too much or as you say even with YouTube kids or YouTube she can end up watching something that she shouldn't or watching stuff that's too old for her and picking up behavioral traits that aren't great so there's there's there's stuff there where we're like very conscious of and like now we've put age restrictions on our YouTube. We've hidden YouTube so she can't find it on the phone.

So like now she's going to sit and watch screen time. It's like you'll sit and watch something with a story, Disney, whatever, and then we'll really, really cut that back into a very small amount of time. But when it cut, I think when it, there is also something to be, like, for example, since we've been out there here, we've been at home for a few days. The week leading to it, I think she had no, I think she was having like 15 minutes in the morning, 15 minutes at the evening of screen time, watch her. Julia Donaldson cartoon in the late afternoon to sort of wind down a bit.

And then when we've been out here, it's just been none. It's just been playing with other kids, playing in Nepal, whatever. And you do notice that she's a lot more chatty, a lot more conversation, and she's not asking for screen time if it's not there. So I do agree with you. But I also think there are times when you are out for a meal, and you have, she's, you know, it's always a last result. We'll go out, we'll be in colouring books, we'll bring toys.

but yeah if you're out and you're having a meal together and then she's getting more bored if you stay i don't i i personally think sticking on a cartoon for 20 minutes or 15 minutes at the end of a meal or at time where she's just relaxing and sitting there quite quietly it's quite a nice thing i think we've been out quite a bit and been to places where she's not doing that and then she starts to get quite noisy and you see how the table's complaining or getting annoyed with us so sometimes it's a thing of her to sit in but i i do agree i think there is a problem. I certainly as a dad, and we and Catherine have had long discussions with this. No, it's a massive difference in her behaviour when she does have screen time. So it's

something where you go, okay, look, you can see that it's clearly linked. So we've cut that right back. So I do take your, I don't know if I'd say criticism, but your observations, yeah, I take them on. And again, it's something, I will say as well as a you are constantly learning how like there's no guide to this I can listen to 10 different people you're trying to do the best you can in any given moment there's times when they're a godsend and there's a tablet for 15 20 minutes where something else is happening and a bit that I do also realize the sort of the distractions and as someone who starts with ADHD and whatever, I can see that, you know, it can be something that can fuzzle the brain.

So, but you're, you know, I'm constantly making mistakes as a dad and hopefully learning from them. So thank you very much for your email. I take it all on board and send you much love. Yeah, really good, Tom. I guess my response to the dragon is, who the fuck do you think you are, man? Huh? Who the...

No, I'm joking, I'm joking. I think you're probably right. I think that screen time is bad and I think that it's very tempting to just fall back on it as a parenting substitute but the truth is sometimes it's really useful you know if you're you know I just think it's dependent on circumstances

and everybody has their own way of dealing with it and with regards to the sort of the effects and whether you should let your children onto screens when they're 16 or whatever I think probably we're in a situation we don't know what the best strategy is I mean but the thing that I think that I think from what I've read about it and stuff is I find social media for children

incredibly dangerous. I find them being connected to their friends even when they're at home incredibly dangerous. You sort of think about when kids are at home, the house is supposed to be a safe space for them. They're in a building where everybody loves them and they're supported. And then if they've got a phone, it's sort of like this intruder that's letting other stuff come in from outside and I don't think that's a positive thing. So the truth is, Dragon, I think you're probably right. I mean, we're trying to limit it.

I think kids are getting too used to whatever they want to see being in front of them straight away. And I think there is a value in kids being bored. There's a value in kids doing stuff that isn't like sensory overload. And we try and do that as much we can with our kids, but we're definitely not getting it right, you know. And we're just trying. you know and I'm sure even this morning I've done three things that one of our kids

will be talking to a therapist about at some point in the future it is just difficult isn't it but thank you for your email I think you've probably got some you've probably made some very very good points and good for you parenting your children perfectly aren't you great no just kidding uh should we do one more let's do one more my prince um okay The wolf, the owl, the swan, the cat. I need advice. I've recently started my dream job. Everything was going brilliantly until I crossed past with her.

The Guardian of the communal, communal, what are you saying, Tom? Communal coffee station, the Voldemort of Sugar, the woman who must not be spilled. On my second week, she cornered me after a morning meeting and frog marched me over to the kitchen area. For clarity, this would be the second conversation I've ever had with her, if she's not someone I need to have direct contact with. upon arrival at the kitchen area she pointed at three grains of sugar and declared me guilty of crimes against her coffee making station. She delivered the lecture

with the intensity of a head teacher catching a kid smoking behind the bike sheds. Here's a twist. It wasn't even me. I don't even take sugar. I was wrongly accused. I'm basically the coffee world's answer to the Shawshank Redemption. To make matters worse the day before she'd asked my star sign, when I told her, she didn't be dead in the eye,

she said she hates Ares women. No hesitation, no apology, just raw, unfiltered star sign prejudice. Now when Whenever I see her, I feel like I'm being watched. Maybe a cup of tea feels like it's under surveillance. A half-respected and install CCTV above the kettle. So here's my question. How do I survive working in an office where one woman controls caffeine supplies with an iron fist?

Do I stage a sugar heist? Or should I just surrender and accept my life as a coffee criminal? Yours in fear, the sugary sloth. P.S., I've got tickets for the Brighton show in October. If you don't hear from you, by then, it seems by me taken out by the coffee station mafia. Tom, what do you think? Well, right. Number one, did she say she doesn't take sugar? Yeah.

So, yeah, I mean, she hasn't got worried too much about the sugary threat. I would say this. I used to get very worked up about this kind of thing. I worked in Surveillance and I sort of, like, you know, I've worked in a few different trades where you get people who become sort of almost like this sort of, you know, for the Voldemort or for the, for the, for the, the top of the hierarchy when it came to breaks or whatever and they'd find themselves having something that they'd zone in on as being like saying they took a mincy serious that would become and feel

quite trivial to nearly everyone else around and sort of through doing this quite often become almost a figure of ridicule and I think it's really easy to sort of and I'm not by the way sort of excusing this disperousous behaviour because they sound on paper like it's it's something that, yeah, it sounds pretty unhealthy in the way that they're sort. But usually, and I'm probably actually, I probably should talk about this, isn't it? Because it's clearly a very lovely written email, and it's very funny. But actually, whenever you find these things, I used to trivialize it, used to take the make out of people, I used to do impressions of these people, and then you look a little bit

deeper, and actually quite a lot of the time, they're quite often missing something in life, and it's something that actually this thing that becomes all important to them for the most part that we trivialise and take the mick out of it is the ongoing search for purpose isn't that yeah yeah yeah and the thing that they do that we all sort of would actually we poor scorn and we take the mick out of it's actually very important and actually when you talk to them and you could push a bit deeper so for example like you know the company I'm at and you know with our production company we have someone there who sort of is a little bit like this. And at first I sort of found it.

Shout out, James to fend. Yeah. I felt it quite amusing. And then actually got to know this person, talked to me a lot and actually realized that there was a lot going on underneath the bonnet, so to speak. And actually, you know what? It's like actually sort of pulling away from coffee or sugar conversation and actually just being, you know, just being friendly and just having a chat and just trying to normalize them in a place where they sort of, That doesn't, like, where you're breaking down and it's not about coffee and it's not about sugar, it's about them.

And having a conversation about how they are and where they're at. And that takes a bit of time, but actually just trying to pull it away from them. Because there's usually, like I say, the reason that they're doing that is sometimes it's about having some sort of control or sometimes it's about having some kind of importance. But as Rames said, it's a look for purpose. to look for actually people. And sometimes it's just to hide away and not have to converse in a normal way or because they feel vulnerable

in having a normal conversation. So I might be throwing a lot of this stuff at someone who is just, this isn't about them. But in my experience, sometimes lift the lid, be the sweeter soul in a case of sugar. Ironically, if you lift the lid on her,

you might find some sugar inside. you know wow you know wow like that's a t-shirt proverb yeah let's not

let's not I don't want another failing thing that's on my name on the merch website but yeah I think Tom's hit the nail on the head really

I think it is obviously it's not great that she's like look the truth I don't want to downplay how embarrassing and humiliate

is when somebody sort of tells you off like that but yeah I would say I don't think I don't think you want to just like be, it's almost because, you don't want to sort of be too nice and sort of be piss-takingly

nice, but like, I guess just having a chat with them seeing what she's about and going, it's annoying, isn't it? When even like looking at it from her point of view, how annoying it must be, if the coffee station keeps getting messed about, and then maybe you'll find some common ground, you know, um, or, you know, set up your own, the other option is if you want to be petty about it, because I do want to give you, is set up a rival coffee station. with more stuff you know we'd like get some syrups in there maybe you've got a decaf option you know i think that's how starbucks started i believe so i think it is it's um it's the famous sort of

neero starbucks wars of uh two thousand and three that you might have read about look it up great times okay i think that's sort of my answer to that last email sorry suggests that we're petering out creatively uh it's probably time to wrap it up So, Tom D, I'm sorry, by the way. Can I just apologise to listeners for still being on this bit of the podcast? I realised that for a lot of you, you don't like it. I miss you.

It's hard to drive this hang home in line, baby. You didn't feel like you, because I knew that you thought you're onto something special from the WhatsApp, because you were like, so, Joe, Tim, you got the, uh, did you get the ending? And did you think it was suitable? It would work for it? Why?

Why'd you think that? what do you think makes it a perfect ending j t and then j t texas going you thought was a really good episode what why jake what do you think is the actual thing that makes it pushes it over the line in terms of being really good jt anyway go well bongo the monkey was worried about a lot of different things it's sitting in this tree nervously anxiously just thinking about storms or weather the tree that he was in blown away how the world would end up who was this friends who wasn't did people talk negatively about him below in the field there was big stand the ox silly stupid ox bongo used to look down and think just shitting and eating grass and

sleeping one day bongo climbed down the tree and said oh you you've got to be the most stupid animal whatever's work walk the earth mate bongo turned around and said oh do you think so He said, yeah, it's like everyone thinks you're a big stupid fool, mate. Stanley the Oaks of him said, I don't really care. He said, why don't you care what people think about you? He said, well, I'm so stupid. Usually I forget what people tell me or say about me. And quite often, that makes me feel quite chilled.

He said, but don't you worry about other stuff, mate? Don't you worry about, like the wind blowing down the trees, all the fucking grass just being burnt on one. Don't you worry of that tomorrow? And Stanley says, no. I never really think about tomorrow or yesterday. I just think about now, eating the grass, staying in the present and being happy.

Why, you big fool? Maybe you've got it right. Bongo thought, as Bongo lay there that night, anxiously worrying about things, he looked down, Stanley, sleeping like a god. And it came to Bongo, worrying about all the things in life. never really made them go away. They were still there,

still making him anxious, still ruining his day. Now I only snore, a deep, deep snore, and let it out, almost letting out the problems of the world. Bongo thought, maybe he ain't stupid after all.

Maybe that's the thing. Maybe his stupidity is the wisdom I've been looking for, and he looked at the moon, and the moon lit down on him. And he glimmered in his eye, and he thought, what a pretty moon. Just stared for a little while. And his eyes became heavy, as he just thought about how pretty the moon looked. And before you know, Bono's asleep.

And as he let out of snore, his worries leaked out to stay well, people. Okay, quite a lot to unpack from this. Let's get this out of the way. clearly that was you and myself there's a couple of things I want to highlight okay

first of all the insight into your ego there was quite remarkable okay because first of all what you've done is I don't even think I don't even know if you noticed that you did this

but you tried to appear to be self-deprecating by describing the ox as stupid but then at one point you say that Bongo looks across at him and sees him sleeping like a god that's a direct quote okay that's the first

thing I'd say second of all a really high risk decision of animalising two members of the podcast are making the brown one a monkey the idea was a monkey and an ox are two very different animals okay fine I should have actually now

you know what I really is really annoying what I should have just done a wolf for now well it's two people named after what? You're so stupid. It's so, what you just did? It's one of the lowest things

you've done on this podcast. You're so stupid. You've made him such a prick. When have I ever said, you're so stupid? It's more about this. It's more about the old. You're so stupid and dumb and idiotic, mate.

Exactly like me. And then the innocent of, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'm just living my life. I don't even rise to the fact you're being so horrible. It's just a real insight to how you see yourself the dynamic of this podcast. You horrible fucking man.

Anyway, it was more about trying to find, look, sometimes in life. Sleeping like a God. It's not even a saying. Sleeping like a God. If you never heard that saying, it's where you'll sleep peacefully. Like a God? Yeah, the gods sleep well, right?

Because they're at peace with themselves. Okay, all right. Okay. It just so happens I think there's a lot to it. It just so happens the character that's sleeping like a god

is based on you. And the one that's the one that's based on me is whittled with anxiety. We're both riddles for anxiety. That's what it's not really... But your one

was able to go to six straight away because he's so stupid and innocent. Fuck you. Right, okay. JT. I was in I took a little chisel out

for a birthday burger the other day and... Who? Charlie? Oh, is that his nickname? Chizzle, yeah, chizz. We call him chis with a riz.

Anyway, while we were there, they were playing old school R&B, like 90s R&B, and SWV, anything came on, and I forgot how much I love this song. So, J.T., can you play us out with a little, a little, like, loved...

It's like a little, you know what I mean? Like, he really loved the... I'm going to start. I'm going to put this on and go and see Lisa. Is this a look that you do with when you're going to get it on with Lisa that little shoulder clip? The shoulder went. Has Micah ever taught you how to dance like that? Yeah, he has, yeah, the shoulder thing, yeah.

Yeah. What are you doing, man? I'm doing a dance. You're doing rehab or something. Yeah, yeah. After a car accident. Right, guys, thank you so much. and listen to the podcast.

We'll see you next time. Much love. Big things. Boom. Bye. If you have a problem, opinion, feedback, or anything at all, please email us at wolf-alpod at gmail.com. That's wolf-alpod at gmail.com.

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