Wolf and Owl - S4 Ep 36: Curry Gifts & A Meditation Cushion

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

We’re talking… Rom’s very busy week, Radio 2 In The Park, late-night hotel snacks, a curry feast from the neighbours, Tom’s 100 press-up challenge, on stage with Bucks Fizz and Jay-Z, being embarrassingly bad at pool, awkward photo requests, a private pool controversy, Rom’s new mediation cushion and some back-pedalling about ketchup with samosas. Plus, an apologetic email about missing one of Tom’s gigs to finish making a flat-packed cabinet. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Mighty Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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yeah yeah yeah you know i hope everyone's good i'm so are you my prince my lovely prince listen very tired my gee very busy old week for the romney you know i'm gonna saw you early last week and then uh and then i did the last league of their own on the friday night Last ever League of the Own. Last ever League of the Own. Jamie Redneck did a little speech to the crowd. Did he get emotional, Jamie? It's difficult to tell, isn't it, now?

Do you know what? I think it's worth saying just how fucking funny he is on that show. He's unbelievable. It's probably the best series he's ever done, I'd say. Yeah. Sort of weird that it's taken in 20 years and he's just had an absolute barn stormer. Wow.

No, I think if you watch the first series and then watch his evolution. He's gone from being kind of pretty boy sportsman to still undoubtedly a pretty boy. But one of the safest pair of hands you can get on a panel show is pretty remarkable. He's so so funny. A legend and a jive is the first kind.

Were you emotional? Let me ask, were you emotional that line? Well, it was tricky because I'd radio two in the park the next day. So while everybody was getting ready for the rap, I was putting my stuff in the car to head from Manchester to Chelmsford. I got to Chelmsford at half-fast three in the morning.

And then you have the debate, you know, I knew how to be up at eight to go and do the radio show the next morning, and I knew how to get accreditation or whatever to get into Radio 2 in the park. And then you're thinking, what do I do here? Because, you know, I've just arrived at the hotel. Do I watch something? Do I go straight to sleep?

Where did you stay in Chelmsford? I stayed at the Delta Hotel in Colchester. Now, I don't know. I can't really comment on the quality of the hotel. The room is clean and lovely and all that. but I was there for, what, five hours, right? Yeah. But I tell you what I thought was a real bloody mood lifter.

I was quite hungry because I try not to eat before, like as in I have lunch but don't eat dinner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, sluggish for my sort of one-dimensional schick. Cool wink when you just said sluggish, so? Very cool wink. An epic wink. I wasn't deliberate, so that's something to worry about.

But so I didn't eat beforehand. So then I got into the cast right after the record. and I'm in the car like obviously starving there's no food in the car obviously why would there be

and then I get to the hotel do you not just did you not just think actually should I eat now in Manchester are plethora as we know for great food eateries you didn't think like

the show finished at 11 o'clock I've got to get to Chelmsford yeah but if you get something for the drive then you're you know you want me to sit in the car with a listen I know how you behave in these cars

that they organise for us right but I'm not going to fucking get I don't what you're like. You just get in the car open up a fucking stinky kebab with all the extras and then fucking poor gym or whatever is. No, number

one, I'm going to tell you now, I've not met a driver that when you turn around and say, should we grab some food, we, being the operative word, we, the raw we, let's grab some munch together, we've got a long driver head, doesn't turn around and go, that sounds banging, mate. Listen, and what a revelation that is.

So the paid driver doesn't say, doesn't show any lack of enthusiasm when you say, shall we? If you're buying a nice bit of dinner, a nice bit of scrant. It's a very exciting. It's a very exciting. Yeah, well, listen, I think if the driver's got an 11 to 11 p.m. to 4 a.m. drive, what he doesn't want is for me to suggest a romantic dinner together on the way.

I think what he wants to just get home. He needs that protein inside him, right? Okay. You've got to feed that boy. Get him nice and fed, baby. Right? To be honestly, I was just keen on him being able to get home. So...

Did he not stay in a hotel with you after? No, he wanted to go home because he wasn't driving... Well, he did drive me the next day. Who was it, by the way? Sevi. Sevi. Okay. Sevi lives near there anyway, so it's not too bad for him.

Yeah, I know, but he's had to drive all the... So it's a four-hour drive-to-mansion and a four-hour drive back. By the way, did he drive up and then drive straight back, or did he come up, watch the show engine drive back? He's got no interest in watching League of the Row. Right. What's he into, Sevy, by the way? I know he's into French Pitbulls.

That's as much. as I've got out of him chat-wise. Yeah, that's about it, really. He likes a bit of football, I think. He's a bit of enigma, isn't he? Yeah, but as it's gone on, I've got to... Initially, I thought maybe Sevi doesn't like me, which is well within his rights, do you know what?

But I think he's just a bit sort of... He's not... He's like a bit shyer, I think. And he's not shy. Shy's not the word. Just a bit more reserved, introverted. And I don't mean that in a pejorative sense. Do you know what I mean?

He just keeps himself to himself and then gradually sort of opening up like a beautiful flower. Brossomy. Yeah, really blossoming. But, anyway, the point I was trying to make before this sort of attack was that as I walked into the hotel,

on the right-hand side, a fridge full of snacks to purchase. Unbelievable. What sort of snacks? Yeah. They had flapjacks, they had biscuits, they had cookies, they had cakes,

sandwiches, pringles, just like a full, As a friend of mine would say, plethora of bits and pieces. Was there anything for a vegan-minded hombray? Yeah, there was, yeah. Yeah, there was, yeah. They didn't have a vegan section, but there's a lot of what we call in the...

That's vegan, that's not, that's vegan, that's not, that's vegan, that's not, that's vegan. Yeah, no, no, you're right, you're right. If you're a vegan, it's a real c-move to try and identify what's vegan and what isn't when you're looking at food. You're right. Shame on me. Sorry, mate, I've been driving all night. big rig trying to get to dover to do a big pick up any chance i'm just trying to get an understanding fella of what is vegan and what ain't before i make a purchase

whereas if they're behind you'd be eating the fucking fridge i haven't got i like vegan snakes a i'm i'm come one come you strike me as a scotch egg kind of guy you know what i've got quite snobby with my scotch eggs i like a little like farmer's market scotch egg yeah of course you have because you've changed. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing, listen, I know it's difficult. What's difficult?

Can I just say, by the way, we are doing this podcast. We're talking about snacking and eating, right? So I went out this afternoon, grazed myself, sweet, sweet cat, and we had a full Toby Carverie, big plate. What'd you go? What'd you go for? Three meats, all the side trimmings,

ice cream Sunday. But always, since my holiday, I've been eating a lot. I need to just curb it down. but I was always good. You don't. You don't. It's fine. Enjoy yourself. Yeah, I also went to the cinema this morning, had popcorn and a brownie.

We went to watch the Smurfs. Yeah, I went to watch the Smurfs this morning, and I went to watch The Roses, which was a friend of the show, Jeremy Demetri, shout out, Jamie Dimitri, very, very good performance. You watched both of those today? No, no, I watched Roses on Friday night for a date night with Catherine.

Went for a little bit of food. I went to cinema after that. That was beautiful. Did you get lucky? No, no, no, no. We got back and Grace got them to bed with us. So, yeah. I think she likes me, but I'm not sure.

I'm beginning to wonder if Lisa likes me. I think so. I'm going to try it on with her tonight, see what happens. Make a video, please. I can imagine Lisa putting the podcast on in the car now. It's going, yes, and that didn't happen. Anyway, we've got home to Toby Carverie, and my beautiful neighbour, who's an absolute gentleman,

it's him and his wife, a lovely couple. we'd just literally we're just putting grace to bed and I was getting ready to do the podcast the door the doorbell rings and he's standing in a full bag of food and he's like my wife and me just had some food

but he thought we've made a bit extra so we've made you some bits yeah because I actually follow your neighbour on Instagram and weirdly he's an Asian guy isn't he? Do you really? Yeah I follow him on Instagram and he put up an Instagram story

going taking some food round to a neighbour to try and make peace after I saw him at one of the hotel protests. I'll take your food, but this isn't over. Yeah, please, let me just make this absolutely clear. We are going to be at peace for the next half an hour or so, probably 10 minutes based on how much food you brought around. But after that, we're back the other side of the trenches.

Let me make that very clear, Sanjeev. You can stay in your, you can stay in your salon, I'll stay on mine. He bought, he brought around beautiful array of freshly cooked food. The chapatis,

can I say in chapatis? Freshly buttered. Freshly cooked. Absolutely. Was it a stack? Did he bring a stack? A stuck of chapatis. Somozes,

absolute lips. Can I say, I haven't done this for a while. I had a little bit of chapati. Right. I was like, and that's good. Then I just fur a somozo in my mouth.

Like, like you pop a paracetam out. That's really. Quite a small. actually. Yeah. Was it a mini-semosa? I would say somewhere between a big one and a mini one.

Okay, fine. And I took a couple of bites, and I went, oh, gosh. And Graceford, Daddy made a funny sound and started laughing. And Catherine went, yeah, I heard it. Was your neighbor there at the time? Did they watch you eat this food? No, no, no, no, no.

But I said I'd give them a review over the fence. how did it work with because it's a difficult situation isn't it when you've had a big meal and then suddenly some more great food turns up which can happen kind of or you know whatever you might you just have a surprise

bounty turn up how did you approach it because was there part of it that you and Kat thought was there part of it that you and Kat thought look let's just leave this for tomorrow because it probably keep till tomorrow I can't eat all of it because there's a lot of food

it will keep to tomorrow did it awaken Did you get a second win, I guess is what I'm asking. I'm going to tell you now, I, curry is everything to me. It's the one food I can never resist. So I tell me, I've had a little taste of it. I think curry may be the best food in the world, tapas style, like, you know, a little fork in the potatoes.

I agree with that. I think, I think if you go to it, if you go, if you're having a curry and you get one curry and a rice, you're not living. I think you've got to get a load of, I think Indian restaurants should do, and listen, I know Dishoom's controversial, but they do do this with the small dishes. I love it when you go to the place and they've got loads of small, you can just order like six or seven things and just start all jamming. Hoppers as well. Hoppers is. Hoppers is good for that, man. I love hoppers, yeah. That's Sri Lankan cuisine, hoppers, right? It is Sri Lanka. The guy, I've actually got to know the owner of Hoppers. We're about to go in on a, on a charity

project actually weirdly. I tell you what happened to me at Hoppers recently is I was I did a day of meetings and then I had like a gig in the evening in Covent Garden and so and I was starving hungry I didn't eat in all day and I thought I'm just going to pop me to hoppers and just eat

on my own right and I don't know how you feel about eating in a sit-down restaurant on your own but I've got no issues I'm going to stand up commit I quite enjoy it I think it's a good place to meet people as well I don't that that's where we I diverge, I'd say, but so I went in and I ordered, I think I, it's probably true to say, well, it's difficult. I over-ordered, but then I ate everything, because I was just feeling very pigish, you know. I'm going to just throw it out there, by the way. You must have had the

oberging thing. Mm-hmm. Oh, my God. Did you, did you make the sound when you had the oberging? I probably did. I know that I was... It's unreal the obergene in it. It goes far as a say, it's a fucking, it's in my top five dishes. Yeah, it's really, it's really good. Anyway, I was in the middle of like eating, really slopping, stuffing this stuff into my face. Big dose are just hanging out your mouth. Yeah, really smashing

through it pretty aggressively, I'd say. Oh, fuck it. It's so nice. Oh, baby, down and go. Very good. Very good. And it looks like we're both tucking in, doesn't it? And as I got to the end of the

meal, I heard Romesh and somebody that worked on one of the shows, a show I've done from a while ago, was there just separately having a meal. And then I looked across and I'd fucking dull in my beard, like just really disgusting. And I just felt like, it actually felt like I've been caught masturbating. Do you know what I mean? Like it was, it was a horrible, horrible, because then you think how long, because they were sort of behind me and across. So they would have seen me and gone, I'm going to go, I'm going to go say a letter. I'm a some point. And so

every time I imagine they would have needed to be a couple of times they would have seen me just inhaling

fucking obergene and dorser and bloody hoppers and all rice just everything just absolutely oh god

they've got dull there that will blow your dick off yeah absolutely yeah beautiful it's mate

the shatter hoppers um yeah yeah but what'll happen now by the way so yeah I've got some

there will be stuff for tomorrow I have a little lunch. I need to get my eating back on track, so I've do for a rather sort of, I've let myself, let myself down with eating, not down,

I've enjoyed, I've enjoyed it, but I need to be healthy and I need to know. Yeah, I know, I get it, but listen, as long as you're keeping people updated

on the number of steps you're doing every day and the sort of calories you're burning in a workout, as long as you're doing that, as long as people know from your Instagram story is exactly what you're working out.

Yeah, but I've not done. By the way, actually, I should chat out while I'm here, that I am doing this 100, press up a day challenge. Yeah, you still, so that's the whole of the whole of September. So it's three thousand, it's going okay, it's going okay. It's good.

I feel at the moment, the only thing is you've got to put in quite a lot of back stuff, do a lot of back exercise is because otherwise you overdevelop your chest and you've said you've got to mix it up a bit. Sure, sure. Is this real? Who would have thought a few short years ago when we started this podcast? Eventually, we'd be talking about the hyper development as a result of doing 100 press ups every day.

I mean, it really is, I mean, do you talk about evolution? No, because I'm not sure you end up like that, like, just everything like that, and your back's not got enough. So you've got to strengthen your back in your front. Have you done one of your videos where you sort of put it at a high speed or whatever and then upload it? No, I've not done one of those yet. Maybe I should, the sponsorship isn't going quite as well as I had not probably pushed it as much. I always feel.

No, I mean, what we do know is you're doing 100 press ups today. What we don't know is why, what the charity is, who you're raising money for, all of that stuff feels very much by the buyer. It's for cancer research, which is a very, very important. charity. And I will say in the last year, quite sadly, lost quite a few, lost three members of my family and two friends. So I think it is. It's just, it's felt like sort of a, it's felt like actually, yeah, quite an important charity at this time. And actually, when my, my cousin was, was dying, it was, she, she'd seen, she's generally, saw how much cancer research does and how much,

you know, treatment and development in treatment had changed through them. So I think it's, yeah, it's a pretty incredible charity. Well, well, well done. Tom. I made a light joke sort of undermining your efforts, and you've made me like a real piece of shit. Very well done. Tushay. Can I just say, by the way, as satisfying it is, as it is doing something amazing

for charity, she's even more satisfying sticking it up you. No, very well played. I feel very much outmaneuven. My pants are down. Yes. Well done to you. I doth my cat. Ah! Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure. This fall get double points on every qualified stay.

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you're now in chelmsford you've got a tummy full of snacks and shouts and you've got the radio two festival to get your guts going uh did you sleep or did you go right through i slept i got to sleep about four so I got four hours sleep up at eight went across to the festival which is about half an hour from the hotel did my radio show with Sarah Cox

did a bit press a bit hosting on the iPlay I've never met Coxie very good she's great she's like unbelievable radio still work yeah she's incredible like incredible broadcast stalwart of radio

yeah incredible yeah and then I've got to give a massive shout out to mine too smooth who rocked up and helped basically facilitate me delivering an hour of hip-hop to the DJ tent. How does it change? So is there, just quickly, is there different stages there at the radio two? They've got a main stage that have got like the main music artists.

And then they've got a DJ tent where all the different presenters turn up and do like their thing. So I think before us was Paddy McGuinness. I know who's a favourite of yours. Yeah. And then he, it was very difficult to follow Paddy McGinnis. he closed with bringing on Bucks Fizz. Wow. Yeah, who did.

Making your mind that? Yeah, and pulled the skirt, did the skirt removal. Wow. People went nuts. That's nice for Paddy's making sure they're going to, that will put Turkey on the table for Christmas. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

It's great for Bucks Fizz. But it did make it slightly difficult for our kind of brand of hip-hop to follow. But it was good. Martin did a great job, but nobody's thinking I'd love. Nobody's watching Bucks Fisysseysse. Fizz and thinking, I'd love to hear Jay-Z after this. Do you know what I mean? How long did I give you between the two?

Nothing. What? Yeah, you just go, it's just back to back. Making your mind up. Making your mind up. Things just ain't the same for gangsters. I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, making your mind up. But it was good.

It was fun. And then I got back about 8 o'clock, chilled out at home. And then today, Lisa and Charlie went out. And so I had a bit of a lad's day with Theo and Alex. Went and did a bit of bowling. And then, Tom, it uncovered a new thing, which is, and I'm sure you're going to have this with Grace sometime, which is demonstrating stuff to your kids

that makes them lose even more respect for you. And today, it occurred to me that I've never played pool in front of my children. before. God. Have you played Paul before? Yeah, I've played it before, but I'm not good at it, you know, and I don't have any excuse to not be good at it because I, you know, my dad had a pub for, what, 15, 15 years or so, which had a pool table. I was there all the time and I played Paul there. It's not added to my skill set at all. And then we started playing pool, bearing in mind that Alex had never really played pool before. And Theo has been playing for, you know, towards the end of the summer he's going

and playing with his mates I don't know where they're playing pool but they've got him and his mates got into pool so he suggested it yeah because he's good Theo's good he's got he's got game right

he's pretty good I mean he said he was rubbish he's the worst one of his mates but he was good and then I've got to watch the light in his eyes kind of fade gradually as he watches his dad kind of amble around the pool table Alex and I were a team against Theo Alex

God. Yeah. We lost the game because I accidentally put it in the black. That, by the way,

that happens to the best of us. That happens to the best of us. Yeah. I'm not a great Paul player, by the way.

I play it on a league in my own and Stan snooker. But it's a hell of a fucking, it's a hell of a moot. It's just so embarrassing.

Like, I don't, I don't expect it. It's one thing to be embarrassed in front of your friends. It's one thing to be embarrassed

on television. To see your kids sort of look at it and go, oh, no. It's another thing he's shit at. Oh, God. Were you? Was there anyone that they knew there? Where were you, right?

No, but I was a bit self-conscious, actually, because I was a bit tired. I'd got up early because I had some bits to do, and then Lisa was going out, and I wanted to make sure I was up before she went. Her and Charlie left quite early. So I was a bit knackered and I wasn't on top form like chat wise and you know every now and again I've an interaction with somebody that I'm not I'm proud of and then a couple of people asked for photos while I was there and I wasn't pissed off that they wanted photos I totally get it like I'm not that guy you know I don't mind if people want photos and stuff or people want to chat but I just feel like because I was a bit tired I just wasn't on I could

I would say, like, those people have walked away going, he's not as nice as I thought it would be. And I was trying to be. I'll just shut up here, though. I let you say, I had this in Portugal when, with the picture thing. I'll always get a picture. There's literally one time I won't, if I'm with Grace. Yeah, if Grace is with me, no.

And I find it strange that you. And I'd taken Grace and our friends, a little girl, to a, like I, sort of. sort of golf fund day, so there was like inflatables and zip lines. And my friend, me, my friend told me there was four girls and I had the youngest two and he went off the oldest two to take him to Zip Lion and his two oldest two daughters. And this guy, and he must have been about four or five Steaders Deep, and he had his son with him. He was in a West Endop and he came over, he said, Ooy, I want to need a photo and I.

I need a photo, don't I? And I said, you know, you're not getting a photo because, you know, I'm waiting for ice cream with his two kit, and he went, can't, mate, it'll take five seconds. I said, no, but I'm, I've got to watch this. It's a busy, busy fucking fate. And he's literally, like, tried to grab me, grab up on me. Like, come just do a photo with me and my kid, do on me. I'm like, mate, no, it's not happening.

You're aggressive. It's chill out, take a moment, see what's happening there. And he just stormed off. And then started shouting at me from afar on the fact I wouldn't do a photo. That's the problem, mate. I mean, it was naive of you to think that was going to go away with that in this year. If you don't mind me saying yeah, I used to be like, I mean, I think it's worse when your kids

a little. The boy's now big enough that they can, I feel like I'm out with two adults, in a way, do you know, like it's not as bad and you know, Theo's like probably as tall if not taller than me, so he looks like a big old you, you know, he's probably harder in years, right, isn't he? Oh, that's not. I mean, that's not true. You know, he's growing up quite, you know, he's growing up quite well to do, whereas I grew up on in the state, so I think I could still take him. Well, do you know what? I've, I've, I've made that job. about you alongside Josh or Rob

and you've always sort of like gently parried or had a laugh about it and this was the first time I've sort of sort of fire in your eyes listen if Theo fucking wants it he'll get it I'll get it I'll come with the thunder it's got no idea no I'm joking in all seriousness he probably I mean he's just like he's been working out

and he's just like a bit of a year he's quite inch yeah yeah so anyway so I don't so that rule I've softened on that from where you are. Yeah, I think if you're with little kids, it's a bit of a difficult one, like different one, do you mean? That you can't like go, you know, I can say to the boys, go over to the

arcades, I'll see you in a sec, if it's like a bit of a long way, but you can't do that, I'll get that. But, you know, but people, somebody, a lady came over that works with a mate of mine. And so she was saying it's a running joke at their work about getting him to

introduce us. She goes, can I get a photo so that I can show him that I managed to meet you without his help or whatever. It's like a little bit of a rolling joke. And I just basically didn't give her enough chat. I was like, I just wasn't on top form. Do you know what I mean? So then when she wouldn't work for a weekend, I wouldn't feel too bad. I know, but I feel like she's going to go to work the next day and she's going to go, yeah, I met, I met Ramesh. Not worth it really. Do you know what I mean? So, but anyway, the, uh, the point is, is I was actually encouraging people to take photos because after the pool, I needed some sort of reassurance to the

boys that their dad actually had something about him, do you know what? You're trying to get like some hot chili sauce and drink that. Yeah, I was stood by the most popular arcades going, you know, just talking about League of their own and stuff like, and the hope that somebody would, bloody out, tell you he would love this. Rob Beckett, and I know that because I do a show with him.

Oh, yeah, I'll do a photo with you, mate, no problem. Really tragic vibes. I know, sorry, by the way, talking of Rod Beckett, yeah. I have, it's been highlighted to me and I've had a number of DMs. And apparently on parenting hell, Rob Beckett has now mentioned the fact that at the hotel that you were staying at,

you had yourself a private pool. You're living quite bougie. Yeah, I've had quite a few DMs about this, right? So let me just clear this up, right? So, yes, we did. The idea that we've got a, yes, we did have a private pool, but it's a small pool. Like every one of those little villas that we were staying in

has got like a little pool at the back of it. I thought naturally you'd have one anyway. where you and Rob were staying. Yeah. So Rob had an apartment thing. So he's not got a poor, right? So we had a private four. Rob has shared that on the podcast, right?

And I've been getting a little bit of abuse for sort of being out of touch. And, you know, all I'd say is Rob Beckett needs to be a little bit careful about what he says about my level of expenditure because, do you know what I mean? We've all got dirt on each other, you know? Don't, you know, don't get me started on what that guy's got. I don't think you ever made out that you

It was a, I mean, we all knew it was a nice hotel We saw the golf buggy driving it Obviously, I'm only joking It is funny that well, it's weird Because like people started messaging me going Oh, you've been found out No, that's what I got I was like, mate, bro, you have to listen to parenting hell

Because romishes, come a cropper Yeah, I don't know how that's me come a cropper Yeah, I had like we had our own pool So, you know, what are you going to do? Last light that sometimes, you know? But you're talking like a plunge pool type. thing. It's not a plunge ball. You can swim in it. Wow. Fuck. Okay. Nice.

But every single, like there's a little row of like villas at the resort and every one of those villas has one of those. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. We're not the only people there that have a pool of our own. Yeah, but it's boozy. It's nice to have your own pool. Well, it's bougie, but it also means you're less conscious about taking it up off. Do you know what I mean? You know, that it's like. Well, you're looking at it. I'll be, you no. No. I, I did some VA for Rob and Roche. Let's not get into bodies again. No, no, no, no. All I would say to you is I've watched Rob and Ramesh recently

and there's a couple of bits where we've got our tops off and Rob's looking in great neck and I've put on a bit of timber while I'm filming that. But there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, I've managed to get myself to a place where I don't care anymore. You know, having received the emails that we've received is just go, it is what it is. I mean, it gives a fuck.

Yeah, I feel at the moment, yeah, I've enjoyed food since I've been back from school. And you've got to enjoy life, you know? You've got enjoy life, guys. You've got enjoy life, my... My enjoyment of a roast dinner and a big-ass curry and a sort of big sexy sort of brownie for breakfast is all very good. There is something I've got to tell you about that I've started doing. And I don't know how people are going to feel about it.

I don't know how you're going to feel about it. But I have got into meditation. I actually think I actually think I'm going to recommend it, right? So I read this thing about spending 10 minutes just like disconnected. So people talk about meditation all the time, right? And I listen, but I'm never too sure how it actually works. Well, it really depends. There's all sorts of different types of minutes.

I mean, this is not a meditation podcast. I'm not going to start boring people with the different techniques. But what I would say is there's different things you can do during a meditation, right? But essentially, one of the things that you can do is just be in the moment and disconnect from like your worries and stuff like that. And you can do it with your eyes open or your eyes closed. I would never be able to disconnect with my worries from my eyes open. Well, what you're supposed to do is like, say if you're doing it in the room that you're in,

pick something and focus on that. Because the whole idea is that if you meditate with your eyes closed, you run the very real risk of falling asleep. So the idea is, our eyes open is, some people consider it to be better, right? Can you blink? You're allowed to blink? Yeah, you're allowed to blink. If you try and force yourself to not blink, that is quite distra.

I'd say. It's sort of the opposite of what you're trying to achieve. Anyway, this is the bit that is that that is fine. And I've basically, I've got up to 10 minutes and 15 minutes and then the last couple of days I'm able to do like 25 minutes half an hour. Wow. Okay. And it has made me, it has been good for me. All right. And actually I'd go as far as say, if anybody wants to like, if anybody wants to talk me to talk about this more, I can talk about it more. But I'm conscious of the fact that one people might think it's a bit strange. And two, people might not want to hear about it. I might find a bit boring. But anyway, this is the thing that has tipped it over the balance for Lisa and the children, right? Because obviously, I've told them that I'm, you know,

and in fact, I offered Charlie to join me for a little meditation session. You can imagine what the, you know, I don't think I need to let you tell you what the response to that was. He wasn't, I guess the best summary is he wasn't bang up for it. Anyway, as is the way with these things, I've now got super into it. The other day, we get a package, I get a package. Lisa says, what is it?

And it's my new meditation cushion. Oh, my God. I actually genuinely was about to say, I was hoping you were going to say it's like a bed of nails. What bed of nails? Yeah, you're going to meditate on that. And that would be nice. Everyone in the family said, oh, that's cool, a meditation pillow. Do you know, by the way,

look, and I'm, you know, are you going to start taking a meditation pillow with you, like when we're on tour? I think it might come on tour with us, yeah. Oh, my God. But why do you need it for? You don't need it, it's the truth. I mean, what, I mean, think,

of the last 20 things that you bought, how many of those things do you actually need? Well, probably none of them. Probably zero, yeah. So you don't need a meditation cushion. But it's just like this whole thing. It shouldn't, isn't meditation, right? You're going to be like,

to the earth you're going to be like you're going to ground yourself yeah so so it's supposed to give you a little bit of like if you sit on the floor and meditate cross-legged or have you do it it just gives you a little bit of comfort you know what are you but so the the cushion goes under your ass you can go under your ass or sort of under the behind the base of your spine do you just to give you a little bit of support wherever you want to really so you're so when you're um meditating you're cross-legged sitting up sometimes sometimes or not I mean it just depends you lay down sometimes. Laying down is not ideal really because then you're just going to go

sleep. Yeah. So sitting is normally how to do it. I do the marine breathing technique before I go to sleep every night. Is that where you take in loads of oxygen like 20 or 30 times and then? You do like one really, really deep breath for four seconds, four to five seconds. So take a really like a big, and at the end you take another big hit. So you're taking like all the air you can.

and then you hold it in for seven seconds, the air, and then you release it from all over your body for eight seconds, slow release. And what does that do? I do five times before I go to sleep every night. Kids do have a lot of anxiety, a lot of work. Do you know, at least when I train. What is really good for doing,

it's actually really, really good to act as a repellent towards any situation. Yeah, listen, I can't imagine that sounds good. Do you know what? I, um, Lisa and I trained with, with some Navy SEALs for a TV show a few years ago. I remember, yeah, yeah. And one of the things they've got us to do is oxygenate our blood.

Right. And so what you do is they got us to hold our breath for as long as possible, and I think we're both about a minute. And then they got us to, like, really oxygenate our blood and then hold our breath. Lisa was able to, I think I did a minute and a half, maybe. Lisa was able to hold her breath after oxidating the blood for almost three minutes. It was like something insane. They had to actually bring her out of it because she went into like this sort of trance state.

It was wild. How do you oxygenate your blood? So you have to like, I can't remember it's so long ago. It was almost 10 years ago. But like what my recollection of it is like really like just like just really deep breathing like aggressively to like and apparently it's like you put you feel you like really get loads of air in and like oxygenate your blood to a level where and then you resist the urge to breathe because apparently that is then that becomes

a mental thing. You don't actually need to breathe for a while. But you're, but obviously. it's a habit, isn't it? It's like one of the most fundamental of habits. And so your brain is telling you to take a breath, but you don't need to, apparently, for a while. What, fuck?

Well, if you forget afterwards, so. Yeah, if you forget afterwards, I guess you die. But what if that's actually happened to anyone? Yeah, I mean, I don't. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I didn't look into it after that. I would say that I would say that I would say that I will guarantee, actually,

on my eyes that that's probably fucking happen. And the point is that then someone was telling me, I'm fucking hell, we better make sure when I want this certain up again. We'll look stupid. Yeah, it look really stupid. And also it's sad that someone's died, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think if I said somebody, if I said to you, do the breathing exercise, then hold your breath and then you died. I think, oh my God, Tom's died first and then I think there's a bit of egg on my face there, second.

Yeah, but also, can I just say it's even worse for a Marine than it is for us. Absolutely. To die for valor and to die for fucking his country. Not to die because they, they went full beams on a breathing. Oh my, yeah.

You're about Brad? Why did you get blown up? No, he did the aggressive breathing oxygenation of his blood and forgot to breathe afterwards. So he suffocated. Oh man, that sucks to go like that. It's a weird roleplay that sort of doesn't illustrate the point that you were trying to make before you went into it.

Yeah, but they were two quite sort of passive guys. Oh, okay, fine, fine, fine. It's just weird to do an act out that doesn't make the point. But you require a sort of bigger character going, hey, well, are you two dogs crying about? Yeah, and then, oh, my God. Yeah, go on.

That you dark? And you're the dog now, obviously. Yeah, you did. Yeah, I like, he, he was doing. Who are you talking about, man? Brad, Brad, Brad, Brad, Brad, Brad, Brad, Brad, Brad. He was doing that, you know that, you should, you should know this before you tell me,

why not having a Brad. Brad's my cousin. he's my mother's sister's boy so you best sell me some good news about Brad or I'm going to wear you um okay he's actually he's gone away for a while

he's been promoted to corporal then crack open the beers and we're going to party for Brad yeah have I have you done the breathing exercise I'd love to show it to you

fucking dick. There'll be two people potentially don't. Yeah, absolutely. In my story, where my story's going, it's like my character sort of exactly, you know,

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and the possibilities that lie. ahead. This is On Energy. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. When I found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from winners, I started wondering, is every fabulous item I see from winners? Like that woman over there with the designer jeans. Are those from winners? Ooh, are those beautiful gold earrings? Did she pay full price? Or that leather tote? Or that cashmere sweater? Or those knee-high boots? That dress, that jacket, those shoes? Is anyone paying full price for anything? Is anyone paying full price for Anything? Stop wondering. Start winning. Winners, find Fabulous for less. It's quite a controversial podcast last week. And for one main reason, actually, well, two reasons, but the main reason, the one that we got most messages about, and actually, I've got to say, I feel a bit ashamed about how this, the light that this has put me in.

Catch up on Samosas, apparently that's completely acceptable. Yeah. You and I had been very disparaging about the restaurant that people have asked me to name, but I'm not going to name an establishment that I gave such a harsh review of. Yeah, I mean, you were. Also, can I say that poor old Jeff Norcott did listen to last week's podcast? Well, actually, it's, that brings me to another point, Tom, because this is genuinely what happened to me the day after the podcast went out.

So I went into League of Their Own. Jeff, Aiden and myself were going through the prep for the, the show. And Jeff says to me, oh, I listened to the podcast and you, um, you talked about our restaurant thing and the ketchup and stuff. And, um, it's really nice what you said about me. And I said, all right, cool. Thank you. And then Aiden said to me, yeah, I got a text message from a friend going, oh, you're famous. You've been mentioned on the wall for now. And, uh, and then Aiden said, oh, that's cool. And then the next text said, does Tom Davis not like you? And and, and then Aiden goes and then I said, oh, I don't know.

No, you know, it's difficult. I don't know. He goes, why is that? And he goes, oh, because he was really nice about what he thought about Jeff and then kind of really brushed over you as a person. So, and then Aiden said to me, I don't know how Tom, you're gone.

No, no, no, no. I do not want this. I don't want another Tom Patman on their hands. Well, it's interesting to me. No, can I just say, because Aidan's Beckman, is a truly delicious human being. I've known him for a long long long time. he's been one of the most

beautiful sound people he's sat with me and done material with me if I skirted over Aiden and Aiden's I will say this as well League around this week did a lot chat to Aden

Aden his clobber and his he looks incredible yeah he was as well but can I just say he's a handsome man but what shines most bright with Aiden's Batman

is the beauty that comes from within He's a very, very supportive. This means something. No, he's, no, but I didn't mean to, I didn't mean to, by the way, can I just say, if Aidan Spatman listened to the podcast, he'd realize, right, that the argument was at a time we were getting quite fruity and quite tasty about mango chutney, right? If at any point that came across that I was, you know, my feelings of Ayn's Batman,

anything but of love, then I apologize, I'll take that. Obviously, but I was, I was very front-footed and I was very passionately. You're talking about mango chutney at the time. Well, I mean, look, the truth is we've heard it two people. Now, Tom Pacman, you've expressed a hatred for. Aidan Spatman, you've expressed a hatred for. I'm just waiting now for a Dan Lackman, and then we've got the whole trio. Because it seems to be anybody whose surname sounds like that, you've got a real fucking problem with.

Anyway, so that's cleared up with Aiden. But the real issue is that a lot of British Asian people, have got in touch actually with me to say that they grew up eating somers with ketchup it's like the real deal. It's like acceptable. Not only acceptable because Jeff had taken it a little bit

as they've seen a white guy eating somers he's going to need ketchup. Actually that wasn't what it was. Apparently somers with ketchup is legit. Can I say? A lot of people reached up about how incredible mango chutney is with everything. Yeah, I got that a lot actually as well.

Let me just see. Let me see if I can bring this up now actually. I actually got a message from I actually think you're going to find this quite exciting I'm lactating my friend I'm lactating I'm pretty sure that's not the word you wanted to use

oh here we go this is from Do Boys Limited Okay And this email comes from the director of Do Boys Good morning Having listened to the pod this morning As I do every week

I'm going to have to disagree with Ramesh slash the owl I run a small pizza Okay, this is actually near us Okay I run a small pizza place in Ryegate Get yourself excited Tom One of our most popular orders

Is our mango chutney Onion Bargy Chili garlic bread Oh my God That sounds incredible I think the wolf is closer to being correct A lot of chutneys are used Across Loads of Fusion cuisine

Thanks for the last we saw Tommy Woking last year It's one of the best stand-up performances We've ever seen I'm assuming it's I can't imagine you've been too much shout out the swan so there you go can i just say but that sounds can you just read that out again that's just yeah i'd love to um it doesn't it doesn't sound vegan unfortunately for me but i do think you'll be better go and try this mango chutney onion bargy chili garlic bread what's what's what wouldn't

be vegan in there garlic bread the garlic bread element is probably garlic butter isn't it unless they No, you know, by the way, you don't need butter. You could just be, he could roast the garlic and gently sort of like... Yeah, but I don't, if I was just, I mean, it might be vegan. I'm just saying based on... You think the trouble you have, you could be quite a presumptuous soul. And, you know, your presumptions before have landed you in trouble on hot water. So I'd trade careful before you start.

No, no, I wasn't complaining. I just was an observation. I'm not having a go. It's not vegan. It's not vegan. I'm going to make the trip today, boys. I'm going to look through my door and see when I can get down. down there and I want to hustle on those bad boys up um Alex look forward to never seeing tom

should we go should we go there look I think actually do you know what I think I think it's your it's our turn to have you why don't you come around here we'll go today boys oh that'd be amazing yeah do you fancy yeah I'm bang up for that and little G loves pizza yeah well that's great news um okay would you like to hear another email yeah hit me up hit me up this is from the elephant okay hi wolf owl swan and cat also flow but I can't recall you giving her an animal name Love the show. I've never given a

Flo an animal name that's bizarre No, we haven't. What do you think? That is bizarre Yeah I'll let you have a go at that

What do you want to? What is flow? What could flow? To me, once you start thinking about it too long, it's quite a day Well,

I think what we, what we're both, the reason What about the Flamingo? The Flamingo. The Flomingo. That's not bad. Oh, wow,

the Flomingo. Yeah, there we go. Okay, that's good. Lomengo. Okay, so hi, Wolf, I'll swan and cat and Flomingo. Love the show

I've been listened since the beginning and I feel compelled to email in. I'm a British Asian man. I'm also a maths teacher and I wear glasses and some folk can't spot the difference between me and Rom. Jesus. The relevant part is that I'm Asian. In my household, ketchup up with a Samosa was the norm.

If we had Imli, Tamarin, we'd have that, but more often than not, we'd have ketchup. And me emailing in because it's the first I've heard that it isn't normal. I'm wondering if others feel the same as me. It's maybe questioned my own identity. If no one else emails about that, I guess it's only me that's in shock. I'm coming to see you in Birmingham. You never know. You could ask the crowd there for a really poor feature.

Well, listen, don't put it beyond us. But there you go. In fact, I'll back you up, Elephant. A lot of people have got in touch saying that samosis and ketchup is a real deal. I want to go downstairs and have those surmises I've got downstairs with a little ketchup. Yeah, let's report back.

I wish I had them up here, actually, because then I could have done a little sort of eating challenge. Yeah, that would be great, yeah. um hi rom and tom about tom's theory on mango chutney i think this needs to be tested you each try the mango chutney on different foods in the name of science he could even film the taste test what do you know well we need we need content so let's do that that'd be yeah that big time that's certainly today yeah mango chutney but it's hard for you because of the whole vegan thing what do you mean well i suppose you could have it on a little nut loaf couldn't you it's weird isn't it you go from being quite supportive to being a little fucking rat what sense well you know at one point you're going you know

we'll get some vegan stuff in for yeah I like vegan stuff and then the next minute you'll have some nutloaf maybe you could have a carrot nah blah by the way carrots a salty carrot

with a little mango chutney is beautiful yeah okay here's another email this from somebody that I recently met okay okay this is what I'm here for

hello to the wolf Alan Swan. It's the Grateful Golden Retriever here, aka Matt. Recently, I went to Thorpe Park, and I was lucky to bump into the main man, Ramesh. I was at Thought Park last week. I don't know if I mentioned it on the previous point. Yeah, yeah. I went to Thought Park for Alex's birthday. Well, not so far from me. You could have popped by. Could have done, we spent the day at Thought Park. But yeah, we could have done. We weren't invited.

Bumped into the main man, Romish. It's me and my wife popped into Kosta. We had a lovely chat, and I was grateful for Rom to take the time out of his day. I praised him for the pod. as I'm a long-time listener, but I ended up telling the lamest story of all time about Tom's tour. Have a listen to this and see what you think of this, Tom. He did tell me the story. I don't recall it being lame. He's included the photo, and I, Jesus Christ.

I mean, these two, the Grateful Golden and his other half, who are both lovely, they look great in this photo. I look absolutely. I mean, look at that. I mean, look at that. He's done, tell you what, I respect this person so much on the basis. He seemed to have, like, giving you weird, like, pig ears from those screens behind you. You're good though, baby

You've got a lovely cheeky smile on your face Okay Last year This is the story that he told me When I bumped into Last year I was booked on to seeing Tom at Portsmouth That would have been an important one

Isn't it? Because that's where you film the show That was the one of film we needed As many people as possible coming there Okay Well that's loaded the story a little bit Absolutely buzzing for the evening ahead I also thought it was the best time To get a cabinet delivered

Knowing full while I'm shit at flat packing Long story short And three hours of stress later I was only halfway through the flat pack. I had an hour left to get to Portsmouth. Living in Southampton isn't too bad, but I'd left our bedroom in a right bloody state. Having to make a split decision,

I decided to commit to finishing the flat pack instead of seeing Tom. Riddled with guilt, I think this is why I blurted it out to Rom. Anyway, this leads me to my question for you both. What's the best, worst excuse you've had to pull out of a commitment? Never fear, though, guys. Me and my wife are seeing you both in October in Brighton, it's part of a one-year anniversary celebrations,

and I'm seeing Tom on this next tour. Rest assured there'll be no furniture deliveries lined up. Thanks again for me and standing and having a chat with us. Hope your son had a class birthday and you held up those sweet, sweet rides. Lots of love, the grateful golden. So, listen, worst excuse. Well, can I just say what I really want to get

into is how do you feel about this? Well, I feel somewhat crushed. I'm going to say that as someone who makes excuses not to go to stuff, I bear this guy, I know he or will. But I will say, to know that someone had the choice of him, come in to watch a show that you painstaking me,

written and fucking also that was we had a few we had quite a few pull-outs of that show lucky enough because we're filming it as you're aware

you've then got to jiggle people around for cameras it was quite yeah but yeah I know yeah and might say

I actually commend this chap's honesty and the fact that he could have easy well he actually felt bad about it oh no and I don't think he

expected you to react as childishly as you have done to oh yeah but I If he's listened to the podcast, he's well aware that I'm a massive fucking kid. No, no, look, fucking shit. There's a funny version of this, and there's quite a deep version of this. And I think the funny version is I've made numerous excuses over the last couple of years to get out of stuff, ranging from anything that I can, you know, vague, stomach illnesses or whatever.

But the truth of it is I don't really enjoy going out as much I used to. I get quite social anxiety really kicks in when I'm in a pub and find that pubs are almost a no-go now for me I find myself getting quite since I stopped drinking really and also just

I don't know on Friday me and Catherine went out for food and I it took me a while to really just relax I found my family it was the first time we'd been out of night and lovely restaurant very nice nice people good people around

but I found myself I don't know if you find this I found it like a real it took me quite a long time to sort of yeah I've got some stuff booked at the end of this month and I'm already thinking of excuses to get out that stuff I empathise with that

in fact a lot of my stand-up show last year was based around that I had a run of shows at the Apollo just before COVID happened and then the show's got paused and then we put the rest of the shows on so I think I did like 14 nights there in the end but like we did like five nights and then COVID happened

and then the show the rest of the show's got postponed for like how long 18 months or something like that by the time the shows came around it was a combination of both people not being 100% sure whether the show was going ahead and also people not wanting to not being ready to go out yet but I did a load of sold-out shows at the Apollo with about I would say 60% audience wow and that was quite um that's the you know that's the end of the story, really. It was a bit of a weird vibe, because it was sold out.

But the reason I'm making that point is, you know, you still got the money for the Grateful Golden's ticket. They didn't get a refund, did they? No, no, no. It's not that big a deal, listen. I'm just like, I find it quite amusing that there's a point that someone's life that they're like, we can go and watch Tom Davis or we can fuck it. I've put up flat-pack furniture.

I hate it. Have you done flat-pat? You've done it. It's not a fun time. I mean, again, respect the guy that he's gone. I'm going to fucking stick to this. I started today. like trying to sort out our fucking bedroom

because we've got a load of shit that he's doing we've got some drawers that need putting up I've got halfway through it. Catherine literally before I came to the podcast so Catherine went she walked into her bedroom she went what the fuck has happened here and I'm like

I was just like yeah I started just oh I've got to sort of those drawers I'm just going to go do the podcast before him and she was like who the fuck is going to finish this then I went off the shit tomorrow tomorrow you work anyway so I do respect the fact that this the golden retriever is just like

you know I want to fucking do it but the thought that you go okay I've got the chance to see Tom Day I'm going to go and see Tom Davis or finish some flatback furniture I guess the question is what am I going to have more of a laugh doing

being indoors with some flat back furniture to tell you yeah I mean yeah that it's funny do you know what I mean you put it in the sitcom I might put that on my on Spud Gunn as a poster from Goldwater yeah yeah sort of not quite You're not quite as good as putting up. Not quite as good as putting up flatback furniture.

Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Grateful Golden. You've got yourself a poster quote. Yeah, I'll fucking legend of the game. My friend. Right, Tomo.

It's about that time, my gee. Peace of love and heavens above. Well, navigation. Space travel. Space travels in my mind, baby. look up stars are flying and there's a satellite upstairs somewhere just looking down and all of us oh what's that it's a phone signal be bent to me to you truth is the great be yonder when i stare at it can sometimes feel too big too massive i know that there's stars the moon and some other shit

up there that i'm not quite sure what it is but kind of frightens me just this week someone's telling me about an astronaut asteroid that might be coming towards us. Asteroid, I said, but it won't hit us. And they're like, who knows? Guess that's the truth about the world. As big as the sky is, it's only the bit that you stand underneath it ever seems to matter. Maybe we should all stare a little bit further or fail. Maybe we should all look a little bit deeper.

I guess that's the thing about life. Any one time, we can only concentrate on one small little part of it. and all the other things can sometimes fall apart. Yo, should I see you next week? I'll try and make it. Truth is, it's tough, friendships, relationships, work, play. Best thing I can say is try and juggle them all. Know the important ones you've got to catch.

Sometimes you've got to let some fall. But that's what you feed it for. To juggle them back up and go, hey old friend, how you doing? This probably doesn't make much sense unless it does. and if it does God bless you I got you friend

that was really lovely Tom it was good I can imagine the Grateful Golden is probably going to be purchasing some more flat pack

to arrive on the date of the Wulf and Al tickets he's bought but speaking of which can I just say thanks if you bought a ticket to Wulfanel and thank you also

for the restaurant recommendations that have been coming in. And can I also say thank you so much to everybody for the lovely emails they sent in about me talking about the horrible messages that the Swan got and what happened to one of our kids at school? Very, very sweet of you. But the wolf and our dates are all selling really, really well,

with two exceptions. Dublin and Belfast are selling light shitcakes. And this is how badly they're selling. I suggest to flow that we pull them. now obviously she then said no I don't think we should do that they've sold

they've sold they have she then she started to panic that she'd let that she'd said to me can you give them a push she was like no no it's good it's just they need a nudge so anyway if you know anybody

in Dublin or Belfast please please can you don't force them obviously but can you you know suggested that maybe they might want to because and by the way we're staring down

the barrel of two really wasted journeys here. You know what I mean? And it's a definite over the way. But yeah, it's a different clients or so

it's not a way to journey for us and the people there will be a lot of fun but the fact is maybe over-overarched for that. Maybe we went

for a Ramesh-sized arena rather than a tom-sized arena. That could have been where we fell down. But we could just do it. The long and the short bit is, is, you know,

we're going to be, we're lucky to break even on these island dates. That's the honest truth. So, you know, what I don't, you know, I love performing. I've often said I'd do it for free. What I wouldn't do is pay to do it. Can I just shout out?

Can I just shout out by Irish kin, my Irish friends? Oh, here we go. My family, the people I love and adore. Don't let me down on this one, guys. And you haven't got to be from Dublin or Belfast. Maybe you're a train ride away. I'm talking to you, Cork. Hey, I can see you there, Limerick.

Friends, come one, come all. And show Ramesh, Ranganaathan. Just how amazing. the Irish hour. Yo, we've got this. Okay, great. J.T. Could you please play us out

with a little bit of Gwen McCray, all this love that I'm giving. It's an absolute classic. I listen to it lately recently, and I absolutely love it. Thank you so much for listening to the Wolfram podcast. We will see you next time.

Take care of yourselves and each other. Much love. Peace. Bye. any way of all this love that I'm giving yeah if my love if you have a problem, opinion, yeah. If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all all, please email us at wolf-alpod at gmail.com. That's wolf-alpod at gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you,

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