Wolf and Owl - S4 Ep 37: Body Aches & Hair Transplants

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

We’re talking… fake enthusiasm, Rom’s ‘Doug’ tendencies, Tom’s aching body concerns, over sharing on social media, guesting on Zoe Ball’s Radio 2 show, ball-bag routines, plastic surgery and hair transplants, wearing cardigans, fashion faux pas and the prospect of trying out a very odd version of the preppy look at our upcoming Belfast gig. Plus, we answer email questions about getting out of an unhealthy relationship and helping out your partner with their work issues. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Mighty Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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where I'm going to actually the Al's a little bit concerned because the wolf is the wolf is doing what I consider to be sort of pretending to be have his pecker up but I'm slightly nervous faux pecker almost like you like when you

when you meet someone who's being utterly charming but you don't really sort of feel the same way chatting you mark and you're sort of going for the motions but you know that at some point you're going to have to say I'm not as really as you know

into this as you may be like honestly man it's like it's difficult at this age to make friends isn't it but I'm glad our wife set this up It's been, it's been, it's like, being home. And it's one of those things where, like, do you know, sometimes when you're, like, having a chat, you're sort of constantly thinking of,

like, what's the next thing I'm going to say? What's the next thing I'm going to say? That didn't happen. Yeah, yeah. Like, it was just like, it's just like, bang, bang, bang. You know, like, and... Doug, I'm going to be honest with you, mate. It's been really good meeting you,

and I'm glad that the girls set this up. And, like, you know, if I see you at someone else's birthday party, like, one of the kids, I'll, you know, certainly have a chat, But this one-on-one thing, yeah, the croissant was nice, and the coffee was, well, at best, you know, it's quite bitter. But the conversation felt quite forced. Oh.

I'm sorry, Doug. Well, I mean, in a couple of things. First of all, I mean, it didn't feel forced to me. I thought it was flowing. And like, you were laughing earlier in the... Yeah, I was sort of, if I'm going to be honest with you, Doug, did you not notice that the laugh didn't sort of reach my eyes

like even I was laughing I was sort of looking out the window I looked at three other guys walking past and I actually felt envious I didn't know the three guys but they seemed like that they were actually their relationship was real and hadn't been hollowed out by

yeah I don't know what's going on with you as well Doug like how do you mean? Well there's a lot of thirst I wouldn't call it a thirst as such more than just have you read How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie?

If I'm going to be honest with you, I go on instinct. I don't read books about having to meet friends and Doug can I say that if I give you a bit of advice, leaning forward onto your knees and smiling every time I say something and then playing with your hair just became quiet

Well, that wasn't actually in the book. That's something I improvised. But I was just trying to show, you know, interest, interest. And, you know, might I say, Martin, that actually some of your, a lot of what I was doing was sort of showing interest to what I've got to be honest with you, some quite banal stories that you were telling. No, I don't care what you thought of the rack on the lady that brought us our beer. Oh, yeah, Doug, sorry, I'm going to interject, yeah. I saved my really good stories for people I think are worthy of them. If I'm honest with you, Doug, then...

Wow. Wow. Well. I knew, you know, with my wife, Alice, said to me that I've booked a one-on-one with Doug, I was like, what, Doug, Hetty's wife. I'm actually Hetty's husband. Yeah, but some of me... Yeah. I know. That was a fruitian slip from me. And also, can I just take this opportunity to say,

you've called me Doug on a number of occasions. It's John. But everyone at the school gates knows you as Doug. Why? I don't know. Why? Why? Why?

Why? Why? It's because I keep hearing people say it. Anyway. And you've been thinking, yeah, who's duck? Anyway, there you go. I will say that, do you know, the weather changing always affects me massively. Difficult, bro.

That's why you need to get one of these lights, my guy. Just shine it right in those big old moon face of yours. Moon face. A smile like a big piece of pie. Catherine hates light in the morning. She likes really to slowly wake up, whereas me and Grace, we like the light. Grace comes into the room Catherine. She's ended up

with two toms, isn't she? Yeah, she has, yeah. There's a picture I've got of me and G and Catherine says this is basically, yeah, that's the picture, that. But do you know what? My body is, I don't know whether I've just turned to, you know what people say that?

Actually, this, I do want to talk to you, You've raised this issue, and I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I'm interrupting about what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah. I know you like sharing, okay, on Instagram. You share everything, pretty much. Yeah. I share a lot of my feelings in how I feel.

Yeah, it's an incessant stream. You know, do you know what? I'm going to be honest with you. I thought, who could I text really on their eye? Like, because it's not a massive thing. And then I just thought, I kind of wanted to know if anyone else is feeling like, it's brokes of our age, or women as well, But, like, in the last month, I'm like, my body fits

feels like it's turned another corner. Like, it's like in the face of, like, I feel like I'm in pain nearly every day. Yeah, I mean, okay, we can talk about this. I'd love to chat about it, Tom, and I'd unpack it with you, absolutely, one hondo. One hondo, I'm keen to do that. Oh, back to Doug.

Doug Crescent. But, um, I don't know if I can, get out of being dark because you know that when you do with you've got Doug tendencies that's what Beckett

I think Beckett was talking when you went on holiday with him of the Doug side of you because the Romish side of you's actually pretty cool

and pretty epic but there's a dug inside of you just trying to get out what does that mean? Well like you've got a dog do you know like

have you ever watched that Christmas film with Danny DeVito and Matthew Broderick I have yeah yeah yeah so when I watch that, I like to think

on myself as, you know, I'm sort of carefree Danny DeVito type, but I know I'm Matthew Broderick, I just know it. I think of course you're Matthew Roderick, yeah. I think every comedian's Matthew Broderick in that fit. I think we're all gone. You're not Matthew Broderick in that film. Oh no, I'm an annoying piece of shit. Yeah, you're Danny DeVita. Yeah, yeah. You're 100%

you're Danny DeVito. Yeah, I've always thought that the best, yeah, it's you're Steve Martin, I'm John Candy. Yeah, I mean, look, John Candy at that comparison would be rolling in his grave and Steve Martin he's not dead

but he'd probably kill himself if he heard those comparisons but yes I get what you're saying anyway the point is the point is you shared this thing on your Instagram story and you don't give it any context

like you don't explain you just go Rashid Connie made this observation about me a story going I'm in extreme pain my body's in agony and then he goes what am I supposed to do with that?

Like I don't What was the photo Is it a close up of your face or something? Yeah yeah yeah yeah So it's a close up with your face going I'm in agony My body's in pain top to bottom

Do you know what I should When I look back at it Because I didn't really think it out I was literally just in pain I was like there's no one I really think And I think Catherine's bored Of me turning around Just saying

Like for the last week how every part of me is aching. So I just thought, oh, maybe I'd just sort of... But more than it, I'd spoken to the doctor yesterday, and I should have probably put that out, but the thing that made me laugh

is the doctor tried to sort of make it... He's quite... I've talked about him before, and he's quite a sort of funny chap, but he tries to have a bit of banter. Is that the Nigerian guy that you do the accent and stuff? Yeah, yeah, so I'll do that accent,

but I don't want to be offensive. So he turns to me and says, Um, well, as a big chap, um, because that's how he talks, um, uh, your, uh, he said, your, your, your body's gonna, yeah, as you get older, as a bigger guy, you're naturally going to have a lot more muscle, you know, fatigue. Your muscles are, you know, smaller muscles of yours are going to, you know, be soreer. Um, also bones. Um, when it comes to your back, you'll, you'll have more and more problems. That's just natural as a bigger guy. And I was just sort of like, I think he saw that I was like, oh, shit. Okay, and like, you know, people at Andre the giant, like, you know, the big guy from, I can't remember his name, but he was in Happy Gilmore and other, the guy played, the guy played jaws and stuff.

You know, a lot of those guys were sort of big guys who had a lot of pain. He said, obviously then, you know, there might be problems with your heart as a bigger guy. So I was like, oh, this is all fun. Fucking hell, sorry, what is this guy's bedside manner? Yeah, but then he tried to make light of it by going, don't worry, you've still got a couple of years

where you'd be able to get things off the top shelf and change light bulbs. Hold on, can I ask a question, though. Sorry, you're 6'7, right? Yeah, yeah. Six, seven, who's in it? Anyway, Charlie keeps doing that every time. Six, seven, anyway.

That is not, but to my mind, isn't that within the normal range? I know you're tall, but you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, Andre the Giant. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's not like, he was, he did say, because I haven't got that, you know, there's a, like, a giant, gene, like giantism type thing that runs, some people... You've not got gigantism, have you?

No, no, no, but you can see people who have got it. He did sort of like start looking at my hands and sort of like going, hmm, these are yeah, they're quite, yeah, they're big but I said, well, I'd look silly with small hands, wouldn't I? But anyway, my point being, I had that, and it was just in my head.

It sounds like you were getting on the doctor a lot better than Martin and Doug were. Yeah. I think you two might have a burdening friendship I'm going to go play a game of paddle but my point what I should have done is open with I went to the doctor with this

but I hadn't really thought of it I was if I'm honest with you he'd given me some tablets to take I was a bit sort of that's why I'm a little bit this morning a bit like loose yeah you're a bit you're still reacting to it you're processing it

you're processing yeah I was a bit I'm a bit spaced out I think it's fair to say so is the doctor suggesting that this is just something you have to live with is that what could I do? And he was like, what could I do? And he was like, well, maybe more stretching. You know, he said, you know,

lifting, yeah, obviously I lift a bit, but yeah, he's just, and, but it is, but but my knees are, my knees are buckling, my knees are in trouble. Are you squatting? Yeah, I squat quite a bit, yeah. Have you got knee sleeves? I haven't got knee sleeves yet, but have you got. Listen, do yourself a favour.

Get yourself some knee sleeves, all right? Really? that'll immediately start sorting things out. Really? Have you got knee sleeves? Don't wear them all the time. I'm talking about for a lot when you're doing squats and stuff

to give yourself a bit of stability. Have I got knee sleeves? I've got a back thing that I use. Just a bit, mate. So he's asking if I've got knee sleeves, just a couple, mate. Fuck off dog, you wanker. I've got 500 pairs of knees.

Have you got me different colours? No, I've got one set. And I barely use them to, but they are good if you're squatting. Black. Yeah. Okay. I'm like a hot.

pink. I love, you know, when I'm in a gym, I love to, I look at guys who wear, like, really, like, sort of loud colours, and I always respect them. Yeah. Would you ever wear a tank? I have got a tank. I've got two tanks. I've got the man to, you work at home, right?

Yeah, no, I do, pop in every now and again, I go to the, um, just go to the gym, you know, if I'm boxing and sometimes I have a workout as well. Sure, sure, no, yes, I know, I know you do the boxing, again, from your Instagram. Yeah. I've actually been offered out quite a lot subsequent to this podcast and I put it up that on Instagram if there's any sparring partners

and there's a few... Yeah, I saw that as well, yeah. It's... You're sort of treating your Instagram like the village notice for, don't you? That's kind of what it should be, no? You know what? I'd like to put out of the feeling because I sort of...

I think it's, you know, because I just think that's who I am as a person. Otherwise, it is just, I'm like, oh, I'm selling tickets or I'm fucking whatever else. It's just like, I think it's good to sort of, to be open about how you are as a person, the ups and down. Sometimes you fucking have a good day. Sometimes you have a bad day. Get up, stay busy, be cool. Yeah, sure.

I just think, I just think, like, you need to take just a little bit of responsibility, okay? What I would say is you're just shitting out every fucking half thought that pops into your head onto social media. Yeah, sure. Yeah, but fine. But you need a degree of separation. Like, just, when you had the doctor thing, and he said your body's a bit painful, then just go, think, what is this post going to look like?

You know, before you put it on there. Don't just fucking, just some close-up. That's what it is. I know you reactionary, but just take a second. That's how the fucking protests happen, all right? Just have a little bit of, just a bit of time to process what's happened. happening, and then you can do it. I think as well, that's probably where my arms and shoulders

hurt, I was carrying that big flag all day. I know, I mean, that's the thing, isn't it? And you're wearing that night's helmet the whole, the whole afternoon. How are you, my guy? How are you, my little bit. I was in Radio 2 on Saturday, and I was a little bit nervous about, not nervous. I was like, the protest, I think the protest,

The voters were starting right by the BBC. So I was just like, that's this going to be. But it was actually fine. I saw some people, but they were pretty chill, to be honest. There wasn't any animal city towards you. No, it's pretty... I wouldn't say it was vibesy, but I was pretty, you know, I was fairly ignored.

But then the trains were all over the place, huh? Getting home was a shit show, yeah. Yeah, but that is on the trains. That is the trains. I should have stuck it up on Instagram. It was a perfect opportunity for me to just go, Bloody hell. Yeah, but then I think we get a little insight

to where you're at. Just like me like this. Never get at home. Do you not think, like, sometimes your posts are quite manufactured. Because I think you think, well, because I think you're such a beautiful being, right?

And sometimes I think you overly think them. Actually, fuck it. You do loads of you just sitting in the back of the car and you're on the way. And you did one on that day on the way to radio too. That's how this goes. You know what I mean? I said, okay, I know which place you're referring to.

on the way to Radio 2 with Sarah Cox who was on the show and featuring this song and I tagged it onto the thing I didn't just like post a photo and go train zoe what a conundrum or whatever

what was your post it's just saying who we had on the Radio 2 show yeah there we go I get to say by the way shout out Coxie but also shout out of the queen that is Zoe Ball what a legend oh yeah

there we go so I get in there and everybody's an absolute everyone's in a fluster because the big dogs coming into the radio station Tom, look at it Tom D, big Tom D coming in

it's just a bit it's a bit weird isn't it? Do you not find it weird like every now and again I get struck by how strange it's for example like if I think I talked about it

when I'm doing League of their only new come on as a guest similarly, doing Radio 2 and then they tell me oh Tom's coming in on Zoe's showing, it's so bizarre. I find it so surreal almost, you know what?

Also, when I got there, they were telling up the studio. I had to do extra work, by the way. I had to do extra work, by the way. Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah. But also, you know, it was quite sweet hearing your little voice. But they were all like, oh, you know, Rworship's quite demanding. It's so nice because Zoe's quite chilled.

First of all, I know, I know. Let me tell you this. I know for a fact that's not the case. they said oh we've got this these are rummishes special coffee beans he demands having his vegan his vegan breakfast

it's very one of the things I didn't realise about radio it's very tricky to time when you take a piss yeah yeah yeah yeah have you ever had to have a poo what do you do a double track song and you only go for a poo by the way can I say

a fair indication of our podcast is the fact that they made us pick stories that we knew the other one would tell and even Zoe said you're almost both poo experts there's a lot of poo chat on there she quite enjoys it but I know it's not for everyone no it's not and actually some people

despise it actually turns some people or off but it may be that that is like that is who we are like I realised by the way my new stand-up doing work and progress I have always got poo jokes because I find it quite amusing

I'm like I can't close the show with another one but yeah it's weird I mean I don't want to put people off but the you know

I've been I'm working on putting together a new tool the first 40 minutes exclusively about my ball bag

is it really no no no I was just like ball bags are fucking

yeah I'm not my ball bag my ball bag yeah but my ball bag is like it's like

you know you see a with a tree and you're like oh fucking that tree let you just freestyle Just let's freestyle a routine about

No, no, no, but like, this isn't a part of my show. Yeah, I've got something similar about another part of you. Oh, I'll tell you what, okay, good to be here. Thank you so much, uh, New Molden. But listen, I've got to tell you. New Maldon, Maff Brown, just in the background. Yeah, go, do the ball bag stuff.

Hold on, let me tell you this. Could barely get up the stairs because of the fucking big old bell swinging between my, between my knees. Of course, I'm talking about my ball bag. Make some noise of your ball bag's almost at your shins. Hey! Just me?

Oh, and that bloke over there. All right, swing low. It's me. It's me from before. My ball bag is swinging solar. I've started calling it Sweet Chariot. Am I right? Good name for your ball bag, rubbish.

Oh, girls. How is your ball bag? What are we dealing with? What do you mean, how is it? No, is it really like hanging or is it? Do you know, a lot of people, A lot of people talk about men having conversations. And listen, you and I have talked to everything,

but this is the first time, and I never thought it would happen, that you said to me, how is your ball bag? But what do you mean? What do you mean how is your ball bag? No, but I remember when you were a kid, right, and you go to the sort of like,

you go swimming or you, you know, you be at the, you know, swim baths or whatever, and you go into the showers when, you know, afterwards and you'd see older men and you could almost like, you didn't have to look up at their faces but you can tell they were he's got to drooping their ball bag.

Yeah, it's like the rings on a tree stump. Oh, you junior. Yeah, it's basically that. So you're looking about it and you're like, oh God, he's a grandfather. Like, where's your ball bag at the moment? How is it? Is it drooping?

Is it, yeah? Well, I mean, look, I don't think people want to know this, but what I would say is I'm yet to experience bullbag you know, like people sort of say it really starts to... You know, apparently when you hit like 50,

which is just around the corner for me, you can throw it over one of your shoulders, do you know? But I've not experienced that, yeah, I don't think. Yours is still like a bag for life with a bit of spring in it. It's sort of like, yeah, sort of, it's got some elasticity.

I don't know if that, you know, I don't know why. Yeah, that goes completely, apparently. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have on more than one occasion and try to put, you know, obviously, I like doing drag stuff. I know you've done a bit of drag stuff, but that was, I don't think you were, I don't know how much you committed to the tuck, but I've pushed them back in

to try and do the tuck. You know what I'm talking about? No, no, no, no, I know what you mean, but I didn't know you went that far. So, like, yeah, so to get rid of, like, your bulge, right, look, so I'll just show you with my hand here, he pushed the balls back in, and then you stretch the penis round and underneath and then tape it down. Jeez. So I have tried to do that.

I did do that. Yeah, quite. It's painful. It's unpleasant and it feels and you don't feel like it should be okay. But a lot of drag acts, drag queens do it all the time, don't they? Yeah, yeah.

Okay, no. Crazy. It's, yeah. It's dedication, isn't it? You can't get an operation done on it once you get a bit older just to have your ball bag tool. Like a scrot.

Is it called a scrotoplasty? If I was to guess a name, it would be scrotoplasty. Yeah, I think it's probably said, if it isn't called that, it should be, but they make your skin taut again. Oh, I love that. I'd love to make it even more taut and smooth than it was before, like completely smooth, like an apple.

Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. And then I'd like spend my Sunday afternoons, like getting a real polish on there so you can see your face of it. At the moment, my balls look, you know, you've had an apple and it's sitting in a fruit bar, and it's been there for about eight months and go, so I was like,

Oh, no one's going to eat that. No one's going to eat that. It's got so rotten that you walk into the room. There's like a smell. Throw it against a world, it just smashes. Fruit flies. We'll keep that for Halloween, eh? Yeah.

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You are. I wish I could spend all day with you instead. Uh, Dave, you're off mute. Hey, happens to the best of us. Enjoy some goldfish cheddar crackers. Goldfish have short memories. Be like goldfish. Would you ever get plastic surgery? No, I don't know if I would, no. Do you know what? The hair thing is just the worst thing for me. I know, I love, yeah, but you, so, I mean, look, man, I've been watching a lot of these, like, people in Sergio.

I know Lloyd Griffith has been very open about his hairline surgery. And Chad for being so open, but also his hair, his mane looks gorgeous. It looks great, doesn't it? It looks great. Yeah. It took on an extra sort of flourish after Grimsby beat Man United. Yeah, yeah. Because he's a mariner. But, so would you ever do it?

I don't know. It's something that just, I look at, when I looked at, I looked at, I was. completely like, no, I was like, you know, and I looked at Lloyd and I thought, there was something that changed him. It was like he clicked. Like, I don't know if I would. It's just like, now I just, can I ask, can we, first of all, can I have permission to talk about this completely? Like, can I ask some questions? Hit me, hit me, of course. Are you sensitive, are you sensitive? Are you sensitive about this area? Because I don't want to like, what my hair? So my, so, so, so, currently, so Lloyd's hairline was like here, right? And then

he got plugged in, but you're, am I right in saying you're kind of back here a bit more, right? Where's your head line? No, no, no, no, no. So my hair line. My hairline, so here is, that would have, that's gone. Right. That would be just bald now. I'd have like an old, I'd almost have a home of sit like,

it would grow around there and on top. So then, have you looked into what they would do to sort of, would you repopulate that right the way up until? You'd be a bit of a widow's peak when I was younger. So I'd have to know. now look at like I'd probably try not to have so much of a widow's peak but but I think they yeah I mean I don't know it plays on my head a lot and when I saw Lloyd I've got to say that I've seen a lot of people and I look Lloyd's if you haven't seen him he's a brilliant stand-up he's very self-deprecating

you know but also when he spoke very honestly about how he felt when he was losing his hair I felt the same at the time I'd never have been able to get plugs or whatever it is And I've sort of come to terms of it to an extent. But Catherine, by the way, will often... So even, like, yeah, I can't go to... But I had to wear a wig when we did a legal around the centre of jokey picture. Yeah.

And she was like, oh, you know, oh, God, she sort of makes a joke about the hair. And you just think, oh, maybe... But then also, like, you think, you know, is... I don't know. You'd have to make a thing about... I mean, look, if we both know that, yeah, online and stuff, I wouldn't be keeping it a secret.

but I don't know it plays on my head a lot I just like one more time you know when you when you jump in a pool and you come up from the pool and you push your hair out of your back

it's amazing I used to love that you used to have like would you not get one of those like little hair systems that you glue to your head no no no

you can't do that I'm so yeah I have seen them they're pretty sick they look fucking ridiculous have you seen someone with me When I was in Portugal this year There was a guy

Me and my friend Tommy were sitting there And I was like That guy's hair is one of those stick on it He was sitting to cut the beds down from us I would say by the way I've never seen anyone own the look As much as this guy did Like he was like you do think that

No no no no he owned it He was so fucking Uber confident But obviously we were at the beach And he was fucking so paranoid Kids were sort of splashing And he'd be going hey hey hey mate No no don't fucking watch it Watch it watch it

And he'd sort of play with his hair, and he was playing catch. And he sort of, every time he caught the ball, he sort of push his hair. And I was like, that's one that I stick on. That's when I stick on wig things. And Tommy was like, yeah, I was up. But the way, he's walking around. And it was, by the way, it was like so grandiose. It wasn't far off.

You know, like when you see like a period sort of drama, the women have got those big sort of beehive bluefons. It was probably like three levels below that. There was so much swag to it. But I think you can get them wet, can't you? I don't know, he was very worried about it Okay, fine So you wouldn't do that

But then he might have just not wanted it to get wet Because he didn't want to mess up his due You know what I mean But I just don't Like it's difficult Because I'm not in the same situation But I just think you look great, bald Like do you know what I mean

Like I don't think you need hair Yeah, I know But I just think like One more run at this thing Do you know what the thing is as well My mum said this to me I used to wear a cap quite a lot When I had hair

Also, I took my hair, I cut, I had my hair, like you, I used to have very thick hair. And for a long time, I had like a French crop. I'd cut it quite short. And my mum was like, you really need, you know, one day you won't have any hair and you need to, you'll feel like, you know. And I feel like maybe I didn't, maybe I didn't make the most of it. You wished you had like, like, you'd grown out luscious locks when you did have your hair. I had curtains. Remember, like undercutting curtains?

Yeah, yeah, I saw the photo. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's, that photo slightly... Well, you've got curtains in the photo, haven't you? I've got curtains, but I look like a Chinese businessman. Yeah, but I mean, it's not bad. There's nothing wrong with that, is it?

I mean, like China... No, no, no, no, no. ...one of the top economies in the world. I would arguably say that a lot of bullying takes place when you are a... You're a 13-year-old fucking boy who looks like a 43-year-old Chinese businessman at a fucking... in a South London school.

I mean, you know the school I went to. Can you imagine a fucking bullying I was getting from there? Yeah, listen, I can't imagine it went well for you. But, you know, just based on that photo, I'll be honest with you, based on that photo, I'm amazed that you survived. And I don't mean that figuratively, I mean, I can't believe you're not dead. Mate, yeah, genuinely. Like, I look at that picture. And I also said to my mum, what are you thinking?

Like, look at me. And she was like, but you demanded that style. You demanded that style? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's bizarre, isn't it? Yeah, it is bizarre. You, by the way, you know, we talked about before.

You had a cool look to you. I like, yeah, you're the flex. Well, I was talking with the kids recently, and yesterday, in fact, and we would check, Lisa, me and, I can't remember who it was, two of the boys, we're talking about

which ones of the boys are more into their fashion or whatever, right? Because Theo's like become super into his clothes. Yeah. Alex is less bothered and Charlie sort of seems and then

I couldn't believe this I don't know if Cat ever reveals something to you that you didn't know she thought about you so she goes to me do you think the boys will like do you think Alex will ever get

super into fashion I don't think he'll super get into fashion because he's like he's not that fuss about it now and she goes yeah but you like your clothes and you would look terrible when we first got together I said do you fucking what

right and this is this is but check this out right so i used to wear when nice and i first got together right this is this is what i found sort of heartbreaking actually to be honest with you if i can share right yeah i wore a lot of cardigans okay i don't know when i first knew you you're always in a cardigan yeah like everyone knew you're a teacher I told you, didn't I, when I was teaching and then I started supporting Walshie, so I was teaching him in the day and then going and doing his support in the evenings.

And once, I was saying to him, I was just chatting, and then he goes, anyway, when are you getting changed? Can I say, by the way, Sean Walsh has got his own thing? Yeah, he has, yeah. Then he seldom can you have someone who can wear clothes, like, Sean's,

and he's had that look in the 17 years, I've known, Sean. He's always looked like that. He's had that look. Kudos to him. Anyway, he laughed for about, I would say, roughly five minutes solid at the idea that I was going to walk on stage like that. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is, I used to wear cardigans.

I thought it was like a cool preppy look. Yeah. But it turns out that was just in my head. That's the danger of trying to have a look, by the way, is that you think you're doing one thing and everybody that sees you thinks you're doing another thing. You know, but I would argue, by the way, that who are you dressing for? like

that's what I mean about Sean Walsh I get it I get it Tom but but that only I never learned to you

and thought oh that that's Ralph Lorraine call preppy that he's doing I always just thought you know he said to rush

you straight from work and that's you know that's yeah that's a lot mate oh by the way I'm not

I thought I thought when I saw how you you addressed I thought are we there must be

you must have had to finish this shift earlier at the dickhead factory. So, so there you go. Doug! Doug! My look was worse than yours. No, it wasn't. Ron.

I dressed like a 13-year-old schoolboy. I dressed up until, like, when I look back a picture, I will say, by the way, me and Catherine had a, we were going through pictures with Grace for one of Catherine's relation. We were all sitting in bed the other morning. We had Catherine's iPad. It's the first time we made love. This is a video.

Worst Daddy crying. It was my first time. Can you say pegging? So we're going through. You know, like, your device does like a memory thing where it takes you through. And there's a picture of us on our first holiday. Sorry, are you under the impression that you're doing a podcast with a 95-year-old man? what the fuck

you explaining it to me like that for? So the device has got sorry, look so the device has got so when you take the when you do the photograph they don't just disappear, they're still somewhere No, no, no, no, mate.

No, my love. They don't. They're stored. And then what they do is they combine sometimes. Combine? Yeah, so they'll give you a, so they'll give quite a lot of, remember like a photo album for a newer young. Oh, I love a photo album.

We'd have the plastic sheets on there. They were great days. And then the family'd come around and you go, let's get the albums out. Sorry, excuse me, sir. Have you eaten the. dog shit. What? Oh, I think

brushing your teeth is a fad. No, I can tell. My granddad didn't brush his teeth, didn't do him any all. We had a full set of teeth till he was 27. Wow, I'd love you to do that character more.

Do you reckon? Yeah, anyhow. So we're looking for it. And there was a picture of, um, us on our first holiday, me and Catherine. And I've got, like, what I'd describe is, you know the allergy beard, the strap beard?

Yeah, we've all had that, I've all made that mistake. Grace paused on this picture and started laughing, like, going, look at Daddy's beard. And Catherine was laughing. And I was like, I didn't think it looked that bad. And then Catherine was like, oh, my God, it was so awful. It was such a bad look. And I was like, but this is when we were first to go.

I had that beard for me for the first two. maybe three years of our relationship and then Catherine started going into stuff that I'd worn when we used to go out and I was like, oh my, yeah. And I don't know if you remember this but I know for the fact that when we first met I used to wear really, really

wacky trainers, like really I remember the day we met right, I remember you make a joke because I used to wear like jagging type things. I had like a pair of like these jeans on them. They were like a cross-treated tracks in the bottom of a gene. They're elastic around the bottom

and I had these bright yellow rebox on and you went oh that's quite a pair of trainers it was not one of the first things you ever said to me but you can't by the way

if I said to Lisa oh you look like a silly old piece of shit when we first got together I'm gonna be caffeine has actually always been very stylish that's Lisa right she's a stylish

yeah she has actually yeah it's annoying that It's sort of men, you know, people like you and me just think, oh, let's throw some money out it and like that'll, and then like... I always say, by the way, I still resent spending a lot of money on stuff, clubber. Like, what I'm talking about is like ridiculous. Number one, no designer of any big flash designer does clothes in my size. It's a ridiculous.

I've made jokes about this and we've talked about this. But I actually just generally think you could get most nice things from high street stores and you can dress them up a bit and I think that that's a look And also you know There's the whole thing about You know

Without getting too worthy But you know It's the whole thing about environmentally You know You've got to be weird If you're spending that kind of money You've got to be really sure You're going to be wearing this thing

For like a long time right Yeah You know Long gone are the days Where you can sort of just buy Whatever the fuck you want Whenever you want Without

Have you brought many things From Primark in your time No But I tell you what I have really got into buying t-shirts from this is not the same as primark but uh i'm about i'm making sure i pronounce this correctly unique clow oh yeah yeah oh my god that is by the way the cheat code oh my god unbelievable right yeah what a place

what's a place everything there is yeah that's the t-shirts yeah the shirt the shirts the jumpers if you're going to go for by the way i'd love to redress you in the preppy look i think we could do the preppy look yeah yeah yeah I've been doing it a bit recently. Okay. Yeah, you do it. I'm not like one of it.

I'm not a sex doll for you to sort of dress up however you want. You know, look, I'd love to do. Actually, we should do this. If we can sell out Belfast, right, we could both dress up. You know, like, you can say whatever you want. You can say whatever you want now. No. Because we ain't going to sell out Belfast.

If we sell out Belfast, we will both dress up. You know, like, um, what do you know, the Japanese schoolgirls with the high socks and little skirts? are you fucking mad? Are you fucking mad? Why is that your goat? By the way, we've not talked about anything like that. No, but that's a preppy look. We'd have those preppy little shirts. That's not a preppy look. That's not a preppy look. You fucking horrible pervert. Why have you called that to your mind's eyes so easily?

No, I just think me in new dressers, that would be funny. It's like dribbling your beard when he started saying. Are you disgusting, fucking horrible, er. I think we look funny that. Martin, uh, do you know what? I was enjoying this. But I think I'll take my leave. Good day to you.

I just think that's a fun look for me in you. You know, like the V-neck jumper, little shirt. Yeah, no, I'll get what you say. I got your say. You got, listen, you've got your taste. Fair play to you, man. No, but would you do that if we sell, out Belfast we'll dress up like that.

If we sell out Belfast, yeah. I'll wear whatever you want me to. But we ain't going to sell out Belfast. Speaking of which, if you are coming to, we should have asked this weeks ago. If you're coming to... We could actually just say to Martin, Claire, John, Vicky, Stuart and Luke, who are the people who are the people who have brought tickets for Belfast? Yes. We're not pulling the show.

But Dublin and Belfast could do with a nudge. And by nudge, I'm in a big old fucking shove. But we're not pulling the shows. I shouldn't have made that joke. We're not pulling the shows. Don't worry about that. We might be downgrading the or just sort of like reducing the size of the venue to a pub table. Are we both going to have to move house if the dates keep selling like Dublin and Belfast?

Yeah, definitely. It's are we taking a massive hit to leave our families and come? Yeah, of course we are. Yeah, but that's not your problem, is it? I'm looking forward to it, though. Me and you're the road, two nights of allah. But anyway, the point is... Also, the other exciting thing, sorry, to jump in,

because I'm excited about this. Anyone who's got any... You're jumping when you're excited, jump in when you're not excited, you're jumping when you're breathing. Let's not start qualifying it now. We need to find out who's got the best samosis in Belfast. Shout out, anyone who...

Yeah, any recommendations. Listen, this obsession with the best. Yeah. First of all, what we're going to do with them is like, you know, they don't have to be the best, so they're just good quality. Yeah, I know, but it's not. Baking samosas is an art.

It doesn't turn it into a bloody competition, all right? Yeah, but I'm just saying that if someone's got a recommendation, if me and you are hitting this samosa trail that we're so keen to do. Yeah, we're very keen, yeah. Yeah, we need to be grade A samoses. Yeah, we're going to hand out some samoses. And I think at the, I mean, listen, at the Belfar show, we'll probably need two or three.

that would be in fact there's a good chance that you might just get an email going just meet Ron and Tom at their hotel and they're going to do the show in the reception no that's not true it's sold better than that

but anyway the point I was trying to make before Tom jumped in because he was excited is that if you are coming to any of the shows and you've got a problem, a dilemma or something you want to share with the group, please do email in

and put the date that you're coming to in the subject line of your email. If you're coming to Hackney, we're doing two dates in Hackney, so can you put down which date you're going to be there as well? Because Hackney has been as popular as Belfast has been unpopular, you know? What can I tell it?

Real regional divergences. Wow. The way you said that was so sexy. And Zoe knew about it, didn't she? And he did your little... What were you plugging on that, by the way? Because you sort of did a lot of plugging, didn't you? I was plugging.

Well, the Belfar shows and the Dublin shows. My tour tickets, Spudgun, available now. And also just going in for a general chat. And actually, I will say as well, just, yeah, it was very nice to break red. It was very nice to chat. I chatted about how incredible I think. think you are.

Oh, you're very nice, actually, yeah. Yeah, very nice, actually. I feel like I wanted you to know. And, yeah, we know how I feel about you, but I wanted, yeah. Yeah, very sweet. Really sweet. I adore you. Yeah.

Zowie said you did some weird stuff off there, but I can't really talk about it on the, on the old P-O-D. Okay, should you do some emails, man? G? Yes, my brother. Okay. Hey, Animal Pack! Wow. My boyfriend and I've been living together nearly two years and I moved in six months ago from the South Coast

up to Dorset. Oh, bloody hell. That's a big old move, isn't it? All my loved ones live back down... Yeah, all my loved ones live back down south. I was willing to move for love. He has two wonderful kids with us 50% of the time who I'm growing to love too. This is so far so idyllic. But since moving here... Oh no. But since moving here, the last...

love and affection went away. He says he still loves and fancies me, but I've been asking for the affection back since moving here, but it didn't until I almost left him last week, so I'll see if it lasts. He also says quite hurtful and somewhat misogynistic things sometimes, and doesn't seem to consider my feelings. He enjoys winding me up, but in my opinion, it's to a degree that is beyond the fun banter that most good relationships have. It's in a way that almost feels cruel sometimes. He never really pays me compliments, but has said some things about my appearance of him to pray on my insecurities. Recently, when I brought one up, he said, your triggers are boring to me.

Fuck me. Fucking hell. The housework has never been balanced and if I ask him to help and always do so nicely and gently he behaves like a child who doesn't belong, doesn't like being told what to do.

Now I'm realising is quite empathetic with the far right ideology telling me London doesn't look like London anymore and exploring this with him revealed he meant the colour of people's skin and glorifying certain public figures who are finally, there's something I can get on board with of this guy

and were highly problematic. I'm very much left on these matters and actually find it hard to respect someone who has these views. He's also funny, charming and handsome, but I don't feel it's enough. Certainly not while all my loved ones live one and a half hours away who I miss terribly. I'm thinking about leaving him, but almost 37, and to be honest, I thought of starting over is scary. It's 37, too old for a woman to date and find love again.

I was always confident in finding partners, and now I look like I'm worried single men will see me as being over the hill and too old. I also don't own a home, so I feel like I'm not much of an attractive package in that sense. Hoping for some good old-fashioned wolf-owlish advice, please. Thank you, the tentative badger. I thought sadly I think this is a bit of a common problem and I think it's something I hear about

and it fucking absolutely riles me and it makes me fucking angry so and this is just my fucking observation and you do not have to listen to what I'm saying you've messaged in but I would say get the fuck out of dodge like everything you're saying about this dickhead

is absolutely you seem like a really special person and if you break everything you're saying down he's not worthy of you you shouldn't fucking stick this thing out on the basis that you think that there's not a better option there will be a better option being with your loved ones and your people that care about you

who elevate you as a human being is a better option waking up in the morning and not worrying about how you're fucking other half the person that should be the most important person in your life how they're going to perceive and talk about you how they're going to fucking make you feel is a fucking option that you should not have to go for it

no human being should live in a house or live with people that have spoken to love them and may feel, made to feel less than they are. So usually I can sit here and I will try and look from both sides. In a situation like this, you're in, what I would say, a very, very, and I don't want to say this lightly, what feels like could be almost leaning into something quite close to sort of being, not abusive, but, you know, it's toxic and it's horrible.

And, you know, I think number one, you know, Can I just say, I've lived in London my whole fucking life, right? The idea that London has changed over the last fucking five years is fucking ridiculous. One of the greatest things about London as a city is it is cosmopolitan, like every great fucking city. It's diverse. That's what gives it the richness that it has. Go to fucking New York. Go to Melbourne.

Go to any fucking city. And I know that places have got the problems, but that is what makes a fucking city. It's a diverse fucking place. And the idea that you live in Devon and you're fucking sitting and speculate on it, go fucking Like, it's, fuck off. Fuck off. It's just stupid. And the idea that he talks about you in such a negative way

that he seems lucky to have you. So I'm going to tell you now, do what you can. Like, don't worry about if there's someone else down the road, prioritize you, prioritize your step forward, prioritize the baby steps that you need to take to get you into a place where you can wake up in the morning and be happy with who you are again because you sound like a good person and you're in a bad place. And genuinely, men,

listen if you're listening to this and you've got any of these fucking traits inside you why's the fuck up because it's not on oh my god tom i love you man oh that was so that is the sexiest i've ever found you um but in all seriousness uh tentative badger so i'm scrolling to see what your name was again um take the politics aside the truth of it is is you know it doesn't sound healthy it just doesn't sound healthy you you've you haven't said anything positive in this email. You've said that you've sort of grown to love his kids and you're willing to move for love. But apart from that, everything you've said is negative. And there might be positive things going on. But the fact that you haven't chosen to include those in the

email is telling. You know, the person that you come home to is supposed to be the person that makes you feel better than anyone else in the world. When you have a tough day out and about in the world, home is supposed to be a safe space where you feel fucking, I'm not saying like when I come home that the swan is like celebrating me going oh my husband is back oh i frolic and with joy that he's returned it's not like that but i don't ever feel better than when i'm at home with my family like and that's because you know i'm lucky enough to have a fucking like an amazing partner and you deserve that and 37 is not is no age man do you know i mean it's like you're not over the hill you know we're near the hill that if you're 47 i'd say get out if you're 57 i'd say get out

If you're 67, I'd say get out. If you're 77, I'd say get out. And thank you for listening. I didn't know we'd reach people of that age. But genuinely, it doesn't sound like this guy's making you feel good about yourself. And people, your triggers are boring to me. Fuck off. Like, seriously, it's not cool.

So, and then on top of that, he's not opening up with a house. I mean, listen, I'm very much in a glass house when it comes to this regard. But what I would say is, this ain't the one. don't, in my opinion, based on what he said in the email. There might be something, you know, I'm loathed to tell you something as black and white as that because, you know, there might be stuff going on that luck is amazing and there might be other, the fact that you've moved suggests that it was good, or at least there are good things about it, but this is, it don't sound good to me.

You feeling bad about it. You should not feel worse about yourself. You've moved for him, and then he's making you feel like this. It sounds shit. It does sound shit, to be honest with you, I would, yeah, I mean, listen, if you're a friend of mine, I'd say, if you were a real good friend of mine, and I'd consider you to be a friend because you've got in touch and you listen to the podcast, I would go, leave today, get yourself back home and surround yourself with people that care about you, you know?

My step-man met my granddaughter, I think, when she was in late 60s, and she'd had, she'd been an abusive relationship after abusive relationship and they had 10 amazing years together and I always remember sitting with her and her saying when she met my granddad was the first time anyone had made her a cup of tea and she had 10 great years

that she, but she was like in her late 60s and I'm not saying but what I'm saying is it's never too old but also yeah and also let's be absolutely honest being alone is better than being with someone that makes you feel like shit yeah

the truth of it. This default setting of being with somebody, it's just a fallacy. It's like you should be with somebody if it's a good thing to be with that person. You don't be with somebody just because you're supposed to be with somebody. Do you know what I mean? It's like, yeah. It just doesn't

there's all sorts of red flags reading this email. So good luck to you. Let's know how you get on. Yeah, sometimes I say that in jest and sometimes when I'm talking about, but seriously like, let us know how you are and I hope everything turns out okay.

Okay, we've got one more. You ready? Yeah, baby. This is from The Hungry, Hungry Hedgehog. This is another quite serious one by the way. First off, love your stuff. I listen every week. Honestly, it's the highlight of my morning. I'm writing for a bit of advice about my girlfriend's job situation and honestly how to support her better. We've been together for seven years. Things between us are solid when we first met. She was so driven. She landed a job she loved and then COVID hit. She was let go, rehired and then let go again.

It was rough and left her with a lot of emotional scars around her work. Since then, she hasn't wanted to go back to a proper job. She ended up at a big-name coffee chain. But she hates it on top of everything else. She's constantly dealing with people who grab drinks or someone else's name on them and then get angry at her when it's not what they ordered. Obviously, it's not yours if your name's not Barry, is it, Keith? It's draining and makes her dread going in every day.

At home, she's been really unhappy and has breakdowns pretty regularly. She's scared to try anything else. Her dream is to work for herself. She's opened an Etsy shop and does artist tables at Comic Con, selling pins, badges and stickers. She does really well at conventions. Online sales are just one to two a month. I'd love to say her name of Retsi on her to help her out, but that feels unfair for me to do without her knowing. I've had to gently tell her that right now it's not enough to cover her share of bills and mortgage and life in general. We live pretty simply. No nights out, no drinking. Like many others at this current time, we struggle month to month, which just adds to her sadness. I feel a bit trapped on doing everything I can to make life good for us both, but between money, stress and our unhappiness, it's hard. Our relationship is stable, but the constant sadness leaves a little room for intimacy or fun, even though I'm trying to support her in every way.

I'd love to hear your advice on what I can do to help her and keep us both afloat. P.S. You've never listened to this podcast. She doesn't get comedians. I can't imagine, you know, when I hear things like, I can't imagine. If you're to spin this episode, I really don't feel like that would be that this would be the game changer that would make a thing. Do you know what? I do get them, actually. I don't think it's snake oil on reflection. I really do think it's art. Yeah, go on.

Firstly, you seem like a pretty good dude and someone who cares a lot about your partner. I would say that certainly, I think, in a situation that your, I've found herself in when it comes to loss of job and being made redundant, certainly once, but on a couple of different times can just lead to a real, you know, hit yourself

worth, I think that's the thing that we all, um, uh, we can, you can kind of almost sort of bat aside. And I think when, when you get let go or you lose your job, I think for there's the financial implications of losing your job often sort of a very, uh, at the forefront of your thought. And then actually sort of slowly, I think it can sort of, the repercussions of actually what it means, I think personally being let go can, uh, like, like, you know, things like, you know, any relationship ending can often take its time to sort of sink in

and if that's happened a multiple times then I completely understand where she's at. I think I think you're and you're supporting her in a number of different ways

and financial like you know it's a very it's a difficult one because financially you're you're in a situation where times are tough so you know

there's a part of me that and I feel very you know lucky in you know I've been able to, you know, in situations for myself, go to something like therapy, but actually, you know, to break therapy down, it's just getting little bits of yourself back. And I think that's the thing when it comes to the situation she's in.

I think, like, the Etsy shop, if she's going and she's doing well and she's selling at comic conventions, I think, you know, it's almost celebrating those little moves forward and those little steps. but then it's you know like you say I think if she again you know looking at last email

I think if she's coming back from work at the coffee place she's at and you know dealing with stuff that she doesn't feel like she has a bandwidth to I think it's trying to find something that she does

that could help and that hasn't it doesn't mean you you know you're shooting for the stars or anything but it feels like you're actually just given something where you're going to find some kind of

of a you that sort of feels like it's disappeared slightly, I guess. A sort of, you know, reclaiming that part of yourself is important. So actually sort of, I guess, just chatting to her about what she wants to do. I think talking and listening is important in a scenario like this. It's finding out what she wants next, what, you know, but being realistic as well because you seem like a good person and you're, you know, you've written in because you've, you know, you feel like you've exhausted a lot of options. But I think in life we all try to make sweeping changes.

We all have the intention. And a lot of those intentions come from a good place with the idea that forever is a long time to be sad. But things take time. You have to slowly walk towards. I think if something has scarred you or broken you, I think you can put a band-aid on what is a broken leg, so to speak. But actually that will always feel,

you know, you're never really, really sort of dealing with the problem of recouping. And I think actually just working out how she feels and what she feels is a realistic step forward, as small as it might be, is how you might do it. And things might be tough for a time. And, you know, I sit here and I'm very, very lucky of where things are for me. But believe me, I've been in that position. I've lost jobs. I've lost money.

I've lost, you know, myself worth on multiple times. and so is Catherine. We've both been in that situation and leading up to where our relationship is now, which isn't perfect. We've had to find that time and we've had to find each other and support each other for a lot of that stuff.

And one thing that's always never lost on me is just being there, listening and supporting those small steps forward. And before you know, those small steps will become a run and life will change. And you won't remember what was the breaking moment

in which things changed, but they will. oh wow you've really been on fire today man really great advice I think if your other half wants to do this Etsy thing she should carry on doing it but it's not currently a bill payer so your solution in the same way like

with what Tom and I did is when you start doing comedy is you carry on doing your day job until the comedy starts paying enough for you to leave the day job behind did I do that too soon and my car was taken away yeah absolutely you know, I'm not going to lie to you and tell you that

I nailed it. Did I make Lisa cry because I wasn't able to cover the bills because I went into comedy too soon and left teaching too early? Yeah, absolutely. That did happen. But the point I'm trying to make is

that it's just a bit of like keeping the day job going until you can make the move and hopefully this Etsy thing will take off and she's able to make her money from that. But in the meantime, that's not a short-term solution. The short-term solution is if she's really hating at the coffee shop, she needs to start looking for another job. And even the process of looking for another job, like the other day job, not necessarily

the passion job, but the day job to keep bills paid, even the process of that will make her feel like she's not stuck. Do you know what I mean? You're trying to make steps to improve your situation. And just go, like, I'm going, my target is to get out of here and do something I actually want to do in the day while this Etsy thing takes off. And the Etsy thing might not take off, but she might then find a job that actually she's like, do you know what, I'm happy for the Etsy thing to be a hobby, and this job's actually what to do. And sometimes, I sometimes think about the other versions of me that could exist. And like, there is another Ramesh that would still be happy as a teacher.

You know, it was like I had a six-form when I left and did comedy. There's another Ramesh that, like, would have happily been. been walking around in his cardigans just sort of picking up children for not having their shirts tucked in and stuff like that and would have been cool. Equally there's another Ramesh that would have been working full-time at Sunglass Up, maybe even

an area manager by now, you know, sort of looking, you know, and I enjoyed that job as well. So it's like finding stuff that... I doubt because of all the stealing that you'd have made it to those... Oh, listen, I would have had about 30, 40 pairs of Raybans and my family would all be fully furnished. But

you know, and also, I would have been a frustrated comedian so there'd be so many customer complaints just going um wish he hadn't started doing the stuff uh the observational stuff about my jacket while i was trying on some sunglasses or whatever but um anyway the point i'm trying to make is you either sort of um and this sounds very blunt and horrible but you either go this is my situation and i'm happy to do with it temporarily or if it's really making you unhappy you change you try and change things if you can. And I know it's not as easy as that, but even sometimes the process of knowing you're trying to change it, there's a level of satisfaction in that, you know. But good luck to you.

Good luck to you. I'm always slightly loathe to give advice in situations like because I'm coming for a position of being incredibly fucking privileged and an absolute out-of-touch piece of shit. But there you go. Do you know what I mean? That's not something for you to worry about at 3M. It's something for me to. right let's wrap this thing up Tom D could you please do us the honour of taking us out

so friend what's the time 20 past 8 you say half past 12 what it's quarter past 7 already where's the day gone truth is it's the only thing that's always moving sometimes we think we're moving

but we're actually standing still sometimes we look upon a tree think has that tree grown? But no, it hasn't. It's just a wind making it stand a little taller. Truth is, the only thing that we can always guarantee, the only thing that will always keep stepping forward, second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day, week by a week, month by month, year by year is time. Before you know it, 25 seconds it's gone. 25 seconds. So, then 25 minutes. 25 hours. It's pretty good. should have made this 24, actually.

Absolutely. 25 weeks, 25 months, 25 years. You can't put a button on time. You can't press pause. As much as sometimes you want to just take that click of a moment, almost like a photo and go, this moment's perfect. Or press fast forward when things suck and go, I don't know if I've got this.

Truth is you've got to own every second. You've got to own every minute. You've got to be present. You've got to maintain the best. level best flame field of the you that you want to be is see every second could be your last every minute could be your last oh so you have to lay down how you want to be remembered as a guy who made the most of the seconds as a gal who enjoyed every minute or somebody who just let time run through their fingers check your watch what time is it friend shout

it loud go and this second Okay, really good Really good I've been getting to a little bit of house music What? Yeah Never did I Yeah

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