Wolf and Owl - S4 Ep 4: Photo Shoots & Amazing Nurses

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

We’re kicking off this week’s show with some very exciting news! We’ve just done a photo shoot for our new podcast artwork and are going to ask you lovely listeners to decide which picture we should use. So keep ‘em peeled for the public vote, which will be coming soon. Then we’re talking… degrading vs digressing, Andy Peters Nandos connections, a number of apologies, Tom’s Mandrill protein shake PR, how to be good at financial investments, an update on Rom’s troublesome feet (thanks to all those who sent in solutions), a curry night with Geoff Norcott and a lot of love for the amazing work that nurses do. Plus, we answer emails about a fake owl decoy statue and a request for advice about dealing with a transatlantic relationship. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Mighty Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Fuck their censorship, let em see the whole thing They stay dressed to kill, never sheep's clothing Dark enough to turn the sun to the moon, you'll see nothing All you hear's a huff, a puff and a... Expect killings, red spilling and flesh ripping flesh ripping impressive in it the death bringing its head spinning just kidding every word in this songs about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog. Hello and let's start off with well welcome to the Wolf an hour festival the welcome welcome friends fun old podcast where two friends just sit together have a little chat and then

record it for your delectation This wolf and out the chow down Yeah, it's a great shout. Yeah Speaking of what we could have called it We are rebranding Yes, and I don't know what you guys think of this. We are going to be called the coyote and the hawk No, no in all seriousness some few people in email into the podcast and saying it says wolf for now but you've not included your names in it and that

seems mad so we've done a little we did a I mean it feels so mad to say this because it feels so over the top for what we do but we've done a photo shoot but also yeah I thought it'd be quite cool to feel so over the top for what we do, but we've done a photo shoot. We did a photo shoot, but also, yeah, I thought it'd be quite cool to film some behind the scenes content. That's also coming, that was quite a laugh, wasn't it? Yeah, the behind the scenes content was a laugh, yeah. I wouldn't say it merited announcement. Yeah.

I would say that's something that you just, you sort of just throw away, but just put it on there. I don't think you'd give it any fanfare. The only, I also think, I think it's, because I think what we've got is a really nice group now of people who listen to this, but there's a lot of people don't realize, I get asked at least two or three times a week,

I should do a, or told I should do a podcast, and then I've decided to do one with probably the nation's best known comedians. No, well, yeah, that's not true, but what I would say is, is we are, we have hit the sweet spot of a lot of people not knowing that we do a podcast, and the people that started listening from the beginning starting to get fed

up with it and moving on. So it's a real, we've got to keep that flow going, guys. We're losing people as they start to realize, oh, no, the quality isn't going to improve. They have peaks. And if anything, they're starting to degrade because they keep repeating themselves greater digress digress is Let's not talk about your your minute your every minute hobby of digressing from the topic

Degrade is when something sort of drops in quality Is it you know? Yeah, like a body degrades. There's no suppose about it. There's no suppose about it. A body decomposes, though, it doesn't degrade, does it? I was thinking, yeah. Yeah, but I didn't say body. I didn't say body.

I don't know. I was just saying it. Yeah. No, I'm just saying, but if you, yeah, if something, the quality of it gets less, that's what happens to your body when you die. Yeah, but I wouldn't say, I think it would be weird to say the podcast is decomposing. Do you think that makes more sense? I'm sure someone

somewhere said it. If you scroll through enough of the reviews you'll see somebody. I saw one review on I think you know because on Spotify now you can make comments on each of the episode. One of the comments referred to this podcast is dog dirt. Dog dirt, I like that. It's not bad. When you've got a toddler in the house, that dog dirt is, yeah. Oh, now I've just tried dog dirt.

That's kind of good. Yeah, I mean, I say if you've got a toddler in the house and a dog is also leaving its dirt in the house, there's bigger issues in what word you use. But yes, you make a good point. I need to say, anyway, so we did a photo shoot. We've actually decided, I don't know what form this is going to take, but we are going to shortlist what, three or four pictures.

Three to five, yeah, three to five I think. Yeah, and so we're not just saying this, this sounds like a bit of an earnest thing to say. If you're listening to this, we love you. Unless you're listening to it in order to leave a shitty review. But if you're listening to this, we genuinely love you. And so we wanted to give you some ownership of what picture we use. So we're putting up for a vote. We've decided to trust democracy because as we know, democracy hasn't gone wrong in the

past at all. Yeah, of course. So it always ends up with the best outcome. So we are, we're putting the photos out there and then you guys can vote and whichever one wins, we will choose that photo to be the new thumbnail. It's very exciting. Very exciting. Yeah. If we could have hired Andy Peters to do this segment, I mean, it would have cost a fortune to have done. And yeah, by all accounts, one of the best blokes in the world is what I've heard. But also I mean, it's obviously cost a fortune to have done and yeah by all accounts one of the best blokes in the world is what I've heard but

Also, I mean allegedly he's quite big in this sort of Nando's world as well. I think he's got like sort of I had rumors he's got shares that he's one of the sort of like You know people working like the Illuminati of Nando's Okay, it's I think he saw what he saw he invested butedly invested quite a lot early on and now it's sort of like yeah, he's like a sort of multi millionaire because of the success of nowadays Okay, all right I do think for once on his pocket. I need to source check. So where have you got this from? I Heard it like I think it one entertainment show and one set Like I think it on one entertainment show and one set

It was check gossip around the sort of yeah. Yeah, it was like so it was openly said it wasn't like someone pulled me aside I went hey mate like come over here, you know Andy Peters. I was like what this morning guy? Yeah He's he's one of the biggest investors in Nando's it was more like oh fucking Andy Peters is doing all right He's really invested in that Yeah, well, I mean look did you Google it? Did you look into it at all any further than that? No, no, no, no, no. Why would you? That takes what? 10, 15 seconds.

Should I Google it now? No, I think just say it on the podcast and just further the rumor without any verification. I think that is how all good journalism works really. Can I make an apology while Tom Googles that? First of all, for the podcast being a day late, Tom had laptop issues. Secondly, I've upset a lot of people in the previous episode. I've had messages saying that I was too soft on Snoop for his performance at the Trump inauguration.

Look, I'm going to say this, and it's difficult to say this bearing in mind I'm wearing a Death Row Records cap, so it does look like I'm a bit of a Snoop apologist. I was trying to use Snoop as an example of somebody taking a previous position that you had and using that to beat you with in an idea that you don't change your mind on things and Actually, I use the wrong example because obviously the whole Trump thing, you know, whatever your politics are it is slightly frightening I mean, you know, and I know a lot of people have been debating whether Elon Musk was doing a Nazi salute or not Whether or not he was the fact that we're debating whether he is doing one or not, is a damning endowment of what's going on. A bit worried about social media, a bit worried about what's going to happen going forward. And so for Snoop to then perform at the inauguration, and

also then if you saw any footage of his performance, it was bearing in mind that Snoop Dogg is, you know, one of hip-hop's greats. Sort of seeing him performing to a Black Tie do, sort of with some decks and kind of rapping over his tunes and them kind of... I mean, it was very much... the video that I saw very much was designed for the caption, crowd goes mild it was the the response was so rank Like it was just it was just bad the whole party was yeah And also Nellie's getting some shit as well because he performed Something for the inauguration, so he's getting a bit of heat for that And the other person that's getting a bit of hate not because people were surprised by his politics I don't know if you by the way, if you look at any of snoop or Nellie's Instagram posts

So many people have just disowned them. They're just like I'll never listen to anything you do again I mean the backlash has been real but the other one which I found actually Massively heartbreaking. Oh god, that's so it feels like I've done a pun now, but it's Billy Ray Cyrus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, his performance. Billy Ray. I mean, his voice is, I don't know, I don't know what happened. I don't know what's gone on there, what are the... It's difficult to... because look, in Black and White, the performance was horrendous.

He was sort of blaming the guitar or the sound not working or whatever do you think he was like doing it it's sort of like an insider trying to spoil the party no like a clown he turns up and the kids party but doesn't like the dad because like the dad cut him off in a carpark so he sort of like turns up and he's like oh I forgot all my balloons and like yeah oh where are your big shoes I left them in the car can't be bothered to get them that's bloody clown it's like he's got sand against us. Yeah I can't say much detail on that story. It honestly begs the question. Did you used to work as a children's entertainer? So anyway

On the face of it the performance is terrible But the thing is is the way that he was behaving suggests that there's something a bit, he's going for it, so I'm kind of loathe to. I'll tell you, someone who is taking a little bit of heat and obviously going through some good stuff, is it looks to me, just looking at some stuff I've read online, that Eddie Peters could be one of the investors in Nando.

Is that right? That's confirmed. He was the person who dropped the news that the, remember you used to get the little cars Are you stamp the chickens on? Yeah, that they wouldn't be doing those anymore No, no, no, it went electric and Andy Peters was the person who dropped that news Sunday brunch Apparently there was a whole thing that he could be one of the owners of Nanda. So yeah, there's this

So I'd say I'm 75 to 80 percent sure Andy Peters has got a hand in Nando's. Okay, well in that case, congratulations Andy Peters. Well done to him for that mate. It's a good investment. You know what, I actually think Andy Peters should go on Dragon's Den. He'd be great on there if he's invested in Nando's. I saw that coming. Yeah, well I was, you know when you read these stories about people that got in early on something.

Like I met somebody like the other day who like oh hello look look at this thank you thank you yeah breakfast on the guy oh my god bit of magical shake talking about getting in on early mate your magical shake in early people that was horrible to watch you've you've gone and by the way this isn't outside the realms of possibility that you've gone cat I'm about to go and do the podcast. Can you do me a favor? Romesh Romesh is Romesh is gonna have a go at me if I promote My little my protein enterprise. So can you just very small star? Can you just supposedly spontaneously bring in a man? I will say that my levels of idiocy has many waves.

And to start a protein brand in what is a global recession has proved to be one of the more idiotic things, the more chouvin moves in the life and times. I don't think it's idiotic. Genuinely, I sort of think whenever I think of you, like every time we'd be doing the podcast, I think, why hasn't this guy got into the fitness world? Do you know what I mean? It feels like I sort of think about the, the, the, the sort of the lineage of celebrities, fitness influencers.

Yeah. You know, can I say the truth of why I did it? It's cause it was trying to try it. No, no, but it'd be good. It'd be good three years in to get something that is actually true from you. Go on. It was trying to be anti that whole world of like the fact of these jocks and guys with six packs having protein and supplements. And actually, I'm never going to be there. I just wanted to do something that was a bit silly, a bit fun. And was, but everyone like just trying to make sure most people have protein and that being the message I don't know if it's come across I've got no idea I should have a marketing degree it's I think that's the right thing

because I do actually look or take piss taking a side I do think that is a good thing you know because you're constantly what I like about what you've done, if I can just say this, is, and because you're doing it with Stan, aren't you? So it's you and Stan that are running it. And Stan's actually, if you follow Stan on Instagram, he's quite a no, what I like about him, he's quite a no-nonsense, just kind of, this is fitness for the average person,

that's his whole approach, and I think that's what you're trying to do with this. But it's quite good that what I like about it is, and I'm not's what you're trying to do with this. But it's quite good that what I like about it is, and I'm not going to name any names, but there's lots of fitness products or stuff on social media where they're constantly trying to go, does your body look like this? You need it to look like this and all this sort of shit and this is how you do it and all that. And you're not doing that and I think that's good. But I've got no involvement in the company and I've got no stakes in this in this and if anything it's ongoing you know if it

was to be ridiculed that would be it would provide material for the podcast but I'm just saying in all seriousness I think it's good yeah it's probably yeah I'm gonna take that and we will put it on the next uh wave of stock as a quote from you okay of course but course. Back to old AP Andy Peters, man. He, yeah, that's impressed me with Andy Peters. Oh yeah, but I was going to say, so I was chatting to this guy, sorry, this is what I was saying before... Yeah, it was Catherine. Before Catherine did that advert.

He was basically saying to me, I said to him, he made loads of money and then walked away from it all. And then I said to him, how did you make your money? And he said, I got in early on Apple. Right, and I just said like, yeah, and I'm just like, how do you do that? Like, how do you do it? Like, I was reading a thing about Jeff Bezos,

who got in early on Google. And obviously part of it is you've got to be connected. But when Jeff Bezos got like, apparently when he invested in Google, it was just like this little start up thing. And I can't imagine he realized it was going to be this massive as massive as it is. Do you know what I mean? But how do people, I'd love to know and not because I want to invest, I'm just out of sheer interest. How the hell do you decide what to put money in and what not to put money into? But also a lot of money in things like to see a return.

I'm slightly obsessed with people who like, I've got mates who put the fortunes into Bitcoin. Not fortunes, I mean like fortune, normal. Do they put fortunes back in a day and now they're about to reap massive rewards. No, I don't know. I've not met one guy who's made fortunes or anyone, I'm saying one guy because the people I'm talking about are mostly my male friends who've invested in Bitcoin. I've got two mates who invested in Bitcoin and then spent the money that they thought they were going to get back in 10 years before they got the money back because they were so sure of what Big Cormor would do. Yeah, not in a great place. But I've got one friend who's really resound with that investment

thing, but he keeps himself very, very close to his chest. He keeps himself close to his chest? No, he keeps his deals close to his chest. He's one of those people who always, because if he seemed to do much, he'll come down the pub his chest. He's one of those people who always, doesn't really seem to do much, but he'll come down the pub and you'll be like, chatting to him and you're like, oh what you doing, what's going on at the moment? He's like, oh I just sold my stakes in ba ba bum.

And you're like, fuck, like that's, I didn't know you were invested in that. He's like, yeah, yeah, I got in early. How do you get into a social climate where you get in early, like where you meet people? I mean the sauna would feel like somewhere maybe, maybe I'll spend more time in there. But like somewhere where you're gonna meet the people who turn around to you and go, hey, by the way, you seem a good guy. You need to get early on this.

Yeah, but what'll happen is, is in 15 years time you go, like you'll be doing a podcast with somebody else and they go didn't used to Do this to run my showing anything and you went yeah, and then you know what happened to him He went all in on sprangle and it absolutely fucking died on its hope That's what would happen to me why the fuck did wrong investing gas from Geordie Shore social media outlet. This episode is brought to you by Samsung Galaxy. Ever captured a great night video only for it to be ruined by that one noisy talker? With audio erase on the new Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra, you can reduce or remove unwanted noise

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did deal with that. Well, let me be absolutely crystal clear. Some people thought I was too soft on KSI. Some people thought I was too hard on Wayne Bridge. I felt heartbreaking for Wayne Bridge because I don't know him like you know him. What I do know of him is like a wonderful, lovely, lovely bloke. I've heard nothing bad about him at all. So it was horrible. That being a surprise to him and all of that being dredged up was rank. And it was a terrible choice by KSI to do that, like horrible. Do you know what I mean? There's no getting away from that.

And I don't want to get into it all again. Am I experiencing some regret? Yes, because let's be absolutely honest, just before we jumped on the podcast, you and I had a little text conversation. I was like, oh, this is happening in the last week. We could like maybe, this is the first time we've ever done it.

And it fucking blew up in my face horrendously. I've met every single thing that I weighed in on, I managed to piss people off. It's the first time we've ever done it. And it fucking blew up in my face horrendously. Every single thing that I weighed in on, I managed to piss people off. So I think I'd rather just talk about how I've got a flat ass and I hate my body and sometimes when I do a tall shot. And you've got that awful thing with your foot.

That's why. Oh, can I just take this opportunity about this awful thing with my foot, right? This is like, by the way, you're catching me. I don't if you notice I've got quite a positive energy to me Yeah, yeah, it's nice because I like to because we hang out last night. Yeah, that's part of it. That's definitely part of it But more immediately I've just gone on a pain-free run before I did this Oh, right, and the reason I've gone on a pain-free run is thanks to the animal pack

People were emailed in message me and like the way these messages were sent man I don't want to get to it. You know, I'm like, I don't like getting too sentimental But I like it when you get a little more often the the wording of these messages was like so caring it wasn't like I Know we constantly like we you and I talk about trolling all the time right and probably too much arguably right? but People would like sending a message going I'm really gut like really feel bad that you're going through this heavy like try this it really worked for me like really nice nice

Messages and I've taken on board some of that stuff. I bought some of the massage stuff I bought some of the insoles and things like that and did the stretches that people had sent me But the point I'm trying to make is thanks to this podcast. I Was able to I was easing back into it gently because they don't want to overdo it That's one of the things you're not supposed to do So this morning I thought I'm gonna push it a little bit, not loads but like you know just hit it. What did you do like a 7k, 8k? Why do you have to go higher than I did? It's so upsetting.

No I don't know. Just go in low. No no no no. I did five and a half. That's good. With an injury. But I didn't feel any discomfort at all and I'm not feeling any discomfort now. Are you gonna hit another run up? Is this it now?

You're in full training mode for the marathon? I'm in, I'm in. And I am, this is me now, back into training. And I'm running, not running every day, I'm doing four times a week. But I'm doing it for Teenage Cancer Trust. I haven't set up the, I have set up the link, but I haven't publicized it yet.

But basically, this is, I'm just gonna say it now, this is a bit of promotion, I apologize for that. But I'm hoping to raise enough money to pay the wages of two staff on a Teenage Cancer Unit award for the year. Do you know what I mean? That's kind of the target. So yeah, that's the aim. So I'm back in, and it's thanks to you guys. Because genuinely, there was about a day or two where I thought I might have to pull out of this thing man. Because if every time I run I'm aggravating it and making it worse, it's only going to get worse and worse and worse as I go. And I'm feeling very positive. So thank you. And also thank you to Tom Davison, Jeff Norcott who joined me for a fantastic one of those

evenings that... It was a lovely evening, man. I was about to say you can't replicate, we're probably going to do it again in a month or so. But we went for a curry and the chat was flowing. We didn't get drunk, did we? In fact, you and I were not drinking. I loved it.

You know, it made me realise that I can't remember the last time I actually did that. I went out with mates and just, that's a genuine, that's a pathetic thing to say. And just had a really nice time with you, chat about life. It was a very, very nice evening. I thoroughly enjoyed it. And thank you for inviting me. Actually, it meant a lot that you invited me along. Thank you, man. Well, we were together anyway. You couldn't really get out of it. I sort of noticed see we were together anyway, you know, you couldn't get out of it I sort of noticed the thing I was like, oh what you doing after this? I'm gonna go meet Jeff

That's not what happened. I'll text you I'll text you Just jump on the back of what you're saying about the teenage cancer trust because yeah, I do think it's like and what you're doing, which is an incredible amazing thing because And I'm always conscious of talking about sort of stuff that's a bit personal, but I do think I should talk about this because it was horrible, but also eye-opening. So last week, and I need to say how amazing you were

during all this as a mate, even though you were in the States, you were texting, but Grace was rushed into hospital with breathing problems. Her oxygen dropped. It was like, I was in London, I was at a meeting and Catherine sort of got in touch and was like texting, was very worried. Then I spoke to her, rushed across London. She went into hospital. Yeah, had a course of antibiotics. She's, yeah, better now. Yeah, still little things to worry about. But I

need to say that the paediatric ward at the hospital we went to was, I couldn't, it just hit me, hit home just having the work that when you're in your kids' ear and you're fucking this, you feel so helpless and you just feel like you've got a loss of what to do. There was a young male nurse called Moe there who I really, I don't know how, I mean, I don't think I could ever really thank him. Like he was just incredible. His, how he was with Grace, how he was with me and Catherine, how relaxed he was, how calm he was.

He stayed a little bit longer to make sure we were right because, you know, we sort of built up in a timely, a bit of trust and he was just incredible and everyone that we came into contact with, I just found it really sort of like hard to see sort of a lot of them 14, 16 hour shifts, realizing just how pushed the NHS is. But watching, seeing how they were with other children on the ward and other parents, you realize just, my mom and my sister are both nurses,

so it's not something that's like a new way. I just emotionally was very touched and I can't really ever thank, because it was a horrible 24 hours, it was a horrible 48. Yeah, it's- I felt bad for you, because this similar thing happened to me because it was a horrible 24 hours, it was a horrible 48. Yeah, it is. I felt bad for you because this similar thing happened

to me with Alex, where like when he was little, he'd had this cold that was going on for a while. And at that time, I wasn't really working very much. Like I'd left teaching, but comedy was going, like at that time was going nowhere for me. You know, I wasn't like getting any gigs and stuff like that. So I was at home and Lisa was the breadwinner

during that period. Cause she was like, she was going in and teaching. And so one day she was going off to work and she said to me, I think we need to take Alex to the doctors because he's not getting any better. So I was like, all right. going off to work and she said to me, I think we need to take Alex to the doctors because he's not getting any better. So I was like, all right, so made an appointment, got into the doctors and go in and the doctor says to me, I need to test his oxygen levels, right? And imagine this, Tom, imagine this, right? So I'm in there with him and we're really worried about him. He's just not been right at all. Yeah, and that is horrifying

Yeah, so we go in and the guy goes the doctor goes I'm gonna check his oxygen levels He goes and checks oxygen levels and he comes back in imagine this man. He goes His oxygen levels are worryingly low and he said Yeah, we had that here And then he goes I think you need to take him to hospital And I was like oh shit. Okay. I'll take him now and he goes no as in I've called an ambulance It's on its way now. Oh So so so the ambulance pulls up We jump in I phone Lisa at school. I'm going to the hospital with Alex

We'd like I'm I'm Trying not to freak out, but it feels horrible We get there he had to be kept in for two days Like I'm trying not to freak out, but it feels horrible. We get there, he had to be kept in for two days. This is like, and they managed, and again, as you said, they were amazing and they have to deal with both the fact that there is an ill child and the parent is freaking out, which I was.

But then what happened is they had to put like a Like as after they'd be looking after Alex for a while they're like we've got to put a cannula into his arm right and least would come in at that point and As they put it in like they would they took us into a separate room to put this in as they put it in I start to pass out I couldn't deal with seeing that have been put in his arm. So Lisa's with Alex, then she sees me start to go funny. And then now she's like having to deal with two people. They're just like in absolute fucking state.

It was so bad. It's one of those things where I felt horrendous. I had to bend over, like put my hands on my knees and like get myself sorted out, because it felt so horrific. And I don't know if it was like the emotion of it or whatever, and you know, you're just freaking out and you know, like whatever. But for whatever reason, I was not in a good way.

And then afterwards, I immediately felt, like as soon as it had all been done and all that, I immediately felt better. And then just had to deal with the embarrassment of what had happened. And where- Yeah, but that's not, don't be harsh. That's like a hard thing to see.

But in the moment, you're sort of going, I'm supposed to be, I'm supposed to be taking care of this situation. And in the end, I had to be taking care of it. It was so embarrassing. That's what I mean about the guy that moat. I was just like, I felt like, he was mo I was just like I felt like he was probably 25 26 I felt complete like

well, you just Like really like knowing he just felt so Confidently in the fact that he was helping and anything that that she needed and checking it and I was just like, you know I mean it was a awful put yeah 72 hours, you know for 48 hours I didn't sleep because I was just conscious, I was just so worried that she had these alarms going off because her oxygen was dropped anyway. One thing I will say is that the moment we got

into the hospital waiting room and they had these little games that they could play, Grace ran over to play with a little boy who dropped some food on the floor that Grace decided to try and eat off a hospital floor I was like, no, like, trying to sort of like, put soap in her mouth to wash her mouth. I was like, what the fuck are you doing? And at the moment it's very hard to control a kid who's got breathing problems, to tell them when they're sprinting around and then winding themselves up,

which is part of, I guess I'll pass it down to her. Yeah, being a kid. But yeah, so what you're doing there, you're trying to sort of like, you're trying to sort of like, you're trying to sort of like, you're trying to sort of like, you're trying to sort of like, you're trying to sort of like, sprinting around and then winding themselves up, which is part of, I guess I'll pass it down to her. Being a kid.

Yeah, being a kid. But yeah, so what you're doing there for the teenage, it's a pretty incredible thing, man. It's what they all do and across obviously the NHS and every department and anyone who works for them, but this is something when it's your children and your, you know, that reassuringness and that calmness that they provide and the care is, that's the first time I've ever been through anything like that. And I felt, yeah, I will always just feel indebted

and it was just each and every person that we came in. But yeah, Moe just was just, yeah, I was just, what credit to his mom and dad and his, yeah. Yeah, big up Moe, thank you Moe, what a guy. ["Sky Males"] Okay, should we do some, do you want to do some, you fancy doing a couple of emails? Let's do some ski males.

Bear with me one second. What do you call an email if you're on the Swiss slopes? Well you've done the punchline. I mean it's... I'm thinking of becoming a more of a troker. Is that the Cardinal's sin? Oh, before we get into emails, Okay. Okay. Let's ask you question Did you feel terrible after the meal and this is no this is no endowment of the restaurant the food is incredible

But I hate far too much. I feel it's disgusting how much I That is the first time in a while where I've I've eaten like that. That was bad But I don't put away can I say you like've been out for curry's with you three times now. You order stuff that I never usually have. Vegetables. The black lentil dahl. No, I like vegetables, but what are those things that you had in that? Oh, the potatoes. The spicy potatoes.

No, not the potatoes. The potatoes are unreal. But there was another thing that you had. There were little brown things in sauce. Oh, that was the vegetable kofta thing. Yeah. Oh, man, they were incredible. Yeah, I noticed. Yeah, you tucked straight in. I mean, it was my main, but you were banging there. So that was cool. That was cool to watch.

I offered you some of my chicken. Yeah, you're very sweet. I love it when somebody starts helping themselves to your food, knowing full well that you can't eat theirs It's a real it's a real power play But anyway I I had an experience where like I was enjoying the food so much and I was starting to get full but I was enjoying The taste of it so much that I knew that I'd regret if I didn't eat as much as possible but then I did regret eating

as much as possible. Is it a good thing with food that you've had tonight that you can still taste it like the next morning? Well I would suggest it's a... well I'm glad you said that because that bears the hallmarks of somebody that didn't brush their teeth before they went to bed. No I'm a teeth brusher. Okay yeah you're a teeth brusher are you? Yeah yeah. Okay it's good to know. before they went to bed. I'm a toothbrush. Okay, yeah, you're a toothbrush. Yeah, okay, it's good to know. I would say, I mean, how I'd love to know what

proportion of the population do not brush their teeth because I assumed that everyone does. But I'm sure that's not the case. No, at night who don't, who just do one a day. Yeah, well that's, is that bad? You know, I've met people at night who don't, who just do one a day. Yeah. Is that bad? Yeah, I think you should brush them before you go to bed. More of them for yourself. I mean, for the most part, it just gets a daily decay.

If you've had sweets and sugary snacks... Yeah, because otherwise your teeth are going to start decomposing. Yeah, me and you both had a Coca-Cola each. Well, I had Diet Coke. Well, I've got my shoes in Diet Coke. I'm not going to, actually. I don't want to take it on Coca-Cola. Yes, I know.

You think it's carcinogenic because of the aspartame or whatever, yeah? Is that what you're going to say? Yeah. Yeah. Basically, yeah. I didn't know either of the two. I didn't know carcinogenic or us, but I

knew there was some bad shit. But you knew to agree with me. OK. Yeah. I love Jeff Norcock, by the way, is an old school curry guy. He had fought, I love the fact that every time the waiter came over to see if we were right or just to bring something over,

Jeff felt compelled to order a bowl of Cobra. It's just. It's such like, Jeff and me are from a very similar place in the world, he's literally from right up the route and he reminds me a lot of guys I grew up with. But he's one of the funniest people I have in my life. But the way that me and you are just like, the guy will come over and go,

everything okay over your meal? Jeff goes, yeah, lovely, lovely. I'll just have another Cobra actually. We'll have another Cobra. Just walked past, oh, here's your naan bread. I'm just thinking, yeah, with a full fucking pipe. Yeah Yeah, it was it was it was fun times. Although on the way home. I felt absolutely dreadful Okay, join an email yes, let's do it

By the way, can I just say can I just share with you this email that I got that it's not? This is I don't understand how this email has come to us this is I'm not gonna say who it's from I purchased your owls off Amazon I'm missing the fins and screws please send ASAP and then it's got a picture of two I'm squeezing in there to JT so he can put one. Head-docked two-pack fake owl decoys to scare birds away from gardens and patios.

Rotating head owl bird deterrents. Nature only scares... That could be a little side hustle that we're doing. Why has it come to us, though? I feel like we should get back to them. And say what? I just think... Well, I've not got fins and screws for their house statues. You should message back and say, hello, a part of the deterrent of birds is you using

your own initiative. From that, you have to decide something from your house to become the fins and screws. Do you know what I'm going to say? I'm going to say, really sorry, we're out of fins and screws. Might I suggest just standing outside of your house and scaring the birds manually? Please say that, please do that. That would be hilarious.

And no, no, no, no, just say, no, no, no, no, just say, I'm so, so sorry, we're out of fins and screws at the moment. We're just getting on top of this situation. In the meantime, if you're still having problems with your birds, then stand outside and scare them until your fins are screwed Okay This is so excited yes exciting I let you know what they say Okay, it's a couple of like it's quite a few heavy not heavy, but like wanting real advice

So I like everyone if it's, fine, fine, fine. By the way, the guy who was going for that job got it. Another guy who was going for a job got it. Messaged me the other day. Just so he was going for a job. JT, can you clip this up? Because it's this sort of level of detail and these emotional stories that will go viral.

Do you have a thing on your Instagram where you get a message from someone and it just seems to disappear? I'll tell you what I did have on my Instagram Tom. I just posted a video about not being able to follow cross and It was only after I posted it that I realized that Ivy has cheered my glasses And I've got like one of the lenses is like all scratched one of the side and I just hadn't noticed it until I'd So I don't I feel like it just like a mad old man It just doesn't yeah, you got mad old man vibes you I did like that video by the way I thought it was very funny also put away the picture I put up you look sick in it

No people messaged me said how sexy you are that picture. No, that's not true Maybe there's loads of people said how could you guns look and all sorts go wrong It's lighting in it Okay, this is from the reluctant raccoon. Okay, it's quite a long email so just I'm just warning you now because I know you've got a little bit of Attention deficit so just wanted to try and follow Yeah, a little bit little smidge Susan Hello wolf owl cat swan squirrel and the rest of your lovely packs.

Oh my god, the squirrel gets his first little naming. The reluctant raccoon here, I'm writing to you looking for a relationship advice. I've been in a relationship for two and a half years with my girlfriend who I love very much. She is my soulmate. She makes me laugh. She's absolutely beautiful and is not afraid to tell me when I'm wrong. She's also from the USA, which we always laugh about because I've always been a fan of the USA. She's an Anglophile. We met here studying a Masters. However, due to recent events in her career not being paid correctly, and general things like missing family and friends, she told me she thinks there's a really high chance she's going to move back there this summer when her tenancy ends. Obviously, I understand

why she'd want to do that, as I can only imagine how isolating being away from such key people can be. But part of me also feels resentful. Firstly, I moved to London to ensure we were close together. And on the pretense that we'd be living together at some point. It's now been a year and a half, and with this move on the cards, that seems unlikely to happen. She often complains about feeling lonely and has described me as the only thing that feels like home in the UK. So the fact she seems unwilling to give it a go, we've discussed this, makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong. Thirdly, it's impossible to move to the USA or get a job with any sort of ease. You need really good sponsorship. And with Trump coming in,

it seems like it'll only get harder. I'd be happy to move there if it's plausible, but it isn't. And with her not even interested in moving in, I think suggesting a marriage visa is off the cards. I've previously said that I couldn't do an international relationship. I'm a sociable person, and like those I love to be nearby, but I'm starting to think it could be worth a shot. However, she's not really willing to compromise, say, trying a year with me and then seeing whether we'd have any

full-time capability. Should I bother? I'm getting to an age where all my friends are moving in with their partners, getting engaged, and I feel incredibly nervous about starting again. Never had an issue with forming relationships, but the thought of having to move on from this one potentially is filling me with deep dread Any advice on this issue would be great love the show and keep being your sweet sweet selves

Yours faithfully the reluctant raccoon What do you say well the relaxant rank raccoon It's yeah a very tricky situation because you seem like you found someone you vote you care a lot about and you care about each other and it seems like a very tricky situation because you seem like you've found someone you care a lot about and you care about each other and it seems like a very... I think every relationship comes to moments within them that you have crossroads and you have times that are sort of, you know, that's moving together or moving away or, you know, one person changing up their life and doing something and for the other, it comes to time.

Firstly, I think the big thing I'd do is, I think you just gotta have like a really, really, really honest conversation together about exactly how you're feeling, exactly. And put, just lay your cards on the table within everything you've sort of said to us a bit more and be, state how you feel. I think, I mean, you don't really,

I don't know how old you are. I mean, that's, I know I struggled sometimes with that when I was younger, sort of, you know, not just like relationships, but friendships sometimes, letting them go because I was sort of too scared. To be fair, actually, to say that, I struggle with it now to sort of sometimes say how I really feel in a situation and just sort of let sort of, sometimes relationships just

sort of deteriorate rather than actually sort of lay my heart on the line. And so it feels a little bit disingenuous giving you this advice. But I think when it comes to something like this and someone you care about, I think you kick yourself over more if you didn't say something. But I would also say that there is a world where things sometimes just aren't to be. And if she's got her mindset on moving that to be closer to her family and she's struggling to sort of find sort of those away, living away from home. I can't imagine what it's like being away from your family and what you call home.

I can't imagine how difficult that is for her. So I think it is just the sort of situation of being, sometimes you just gotta let people go as hard as that can be. I will say that the fact that she turns around to you and says that you are the thing that she feels is home is something really sweet and I think that would suggest to me that it's worth working on but I think you seem pretty stupid. I did a long distance relationship with me and Catherine for the first two years

of our relationship nearly was that and they're always difficult but doing something which is an international one I can imagine could be more testing but you never, if you feel, if it feels right go for it. My big advice would just be laying your cards on the table, saying how you feel and just doing that from a place where you don't feel like you're cornering someone, it's just like that this is how I feel and yeah. But my best of luck, I hope it all goes well. And just remember that in life, it's sometimes when it feels things aren't meant to be and things aren't meant to be,

but yeah, there'll be another light down the road. Wonderful, wonderful advice. Relaxing raccoon, I'm really sorry that you're in this dilemma. This is going to feel like harsh advice. I know you're really worried about how this is going to work out. However it works out is going to be okay. So what I mean by that is if your girlfriend decides to stay, which doesn't sound like she's likely to, if she does say that would be great, but if she decides to go and the doesn't sound like she's likely to, but if she does, to say, that would be great.

But if she decides to go, and the relationship has to come to an end, you will also be okay. But I do think that Tom is right in that you need to have an honest chat and say, look, is there a world in which we try, maybe it's even she goes away and then you go and visit her and you see, or you decide, maybe you decide to make a clean break of it or you convince her to

stay. Whichever one of those things, I think it's worth having an honest chat and seeing what you both want. And it, look, the implication is, is that although she loves you very much, she just wants to go home. And that's a difficult thing to swallow, but you will be all right. But I do think that you need to,

you need to have an honest conversation with her and say exactly how you feel about it. If she does decide to move back and the relationship has to come to an end for whatever reason, because your long-term relationship won't work. What Tom was talking about is a long-term relationship where he and Kat knew that they were going to end up together.

It doesn't sound like that's going to be as easy for you. There is a possibility that you decide to do a long-term relationship and then the marriage visa might be something that feels appropriate down the line. But either way, whatever outcome happens, I'm just telling you it will be fine. Whatever outcome you arrive at, you will be okay. It's not going to be... People get very, very caught up in, if I choose this road, then I won't go down that road and I might regret it forever. Whatever road you take you make you take the best path that you possibly can with the information you've got in front of you and it will be fine I promise you. But just you know be as honest and as open about your feelings as you possibly

can be and I hope it all works out for you. Best of luck. Beautiful. Tommy D. I've got your Peru. Yeah, can you give us a, have you got time to give us a closing thought? Of course I have. Sure, where's your content? Bones of contention.

Chicken bones. Vegetable falafel sitting lonely on a plate. Can I have that? Sure you can, friend. Sharon's great. Sometimes I have that? Sure you can friend. Sharing's great. Sometimes I turn to my kid and say share your toys. She says I don't share. I don't like to share. Sooner or later she'll get a gist. Truth of the matter is that sometimes it's weird to share things. If I was to ask who went to borrow Romesh's

glasses he'd go why? They wouldn't be any good. They're not your prescription. But here have this hat. Makes you feel good Rom. They're not your prescription. But here, have this hat. Makes you feel good, Rob. Makes me feel good too. And I guess that's the thing. There's an old motive. I think Winston Churchill said it. Sharing is caring. Sharing is also bearing. Load bearing. Load bearing for the person that says give them something and they have nothing in return but the truth is something you don't give to receive. Unless you're Santa Claus and all he wants to receive is love.

I guess what I'm really getting to is this. Kick back, relax, sit with friends, loved ones, family and give them a little bit of something. And I'm not talking about physical goods. I'm not talking about money. I'm talking about time. Because that's the one thing none of us are ever getting back. Share your time with the people who count.

And you know what? The love will come back to you fivefold. Stay well. Stay decent. Stay you. That was great stuff. Thank you so much. What a beautiful, beautiful explanation for why you took so much of my food last night. JT, Mac Miller. There's a posthumous Mac Miller album, who's one of my favorite ever artists,

called Balloonerism that's just come out. A song called Funny Papers. JT could you play us out with that? Guys thank you so much for listening to the podcast. Look out for us posting the photos. Whichever you choose as the animal pack will be the new thumbnail for the podcast. Take care of yourselves guys. Thank you so much for listening. We'll see you next time. Thank you friends, God bless. Bye bye. Bye bye. Bye bye. Yeah, somebody died today, I saw his picture in the funny papers, didn't think anybody

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