Wolf and Owl - S4 Ep 7: The 32nd of January & Tom’s Singing

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

We’re talking… Tom’s house move plans, old arcade games, does the 32nd of January exist and a general confusion with dates, autograph hunters, navigating small-talk, the loveliness of the Radio 2 door staff, acting in a film with your heroes, catastrophizing at work and Kanye’s latest disgraceful behaviour. Plus, more chat on the Boyzone documentary, a potential new Wolf and Owl bakery product, the offer of a consultation from a mindset coach and a request for Tom to do some singing. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Mighty Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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howler Both of them are known to pull up at your shows Have the crowd witnessing the murder like they rolled in with a gang of crows Fuck their censorship, let em see the whole thing They stay dressed to kill, never sheep's clothing Dark enough to turn the sun to the moon, you'll see nothing All you hear's a huff a puff and a expect killings Red spilling and flesh ripping, impressive After turn the sun to the moon, you'll see nothing All inside and we don't know how it's the wolf It's the hour He's lowering his golf clubs. He doesn't want to give away his wealth. How are you?

Well, as you said wealth, I look like I'm recording this it might since we've been planning to move my office has become since we've been planning to move. My office has become essentially a just a pit of all the crap that we don't use anymore. Yeah, part of my golf clubs. Actually, even my golf clubs will not be using them as much and people stuff has just been everywhere. Look, it's just things. It's just stuff to try and make the rest of the house that neat. That's just been pushed into my office.

Hold on. Have you sold your house? Well, we read that way. So we're leaving. pushed into my office. Hold on, have you sold your house? Well, we rent, don't we? So we're leaving. Oh, okay. And we're buying a new house. In which you are still, by the way, first guest. What sort of promise? The David's Gold promise. Yeah. Very looking forward to you coming around. I'm really looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to what snack selection you might provide. Oh, there'll be a snack selection. I'm also gonna put in like a sort of a tiggle dome for me and you to sort of in front of our families where we sort of like laugh, tickling each other.

Do you know what I'd quite like us to do is play, you know when you put down the mats and do the dance, you know the dance, dance off thing. Should do that in front of everyone, that'd be good. I do know what, we could go to an arcade, by the way, do you find arcades sad now? Cause everyone has, remember when you were a kid. I do know what we could go to an arcade arcade. By the way, do you find arcade sad now? Because everyone has remember, last summer went to one. Yeah, but I walked past one that's a guy and felt just absolutely like it was almost

like castle you know, when you see a castle and you think fuck years ago, that was the center of this whole place this town now it's just an old relic that people go around arcades are our castles. Like when we were kids, no one had fucking like consoles that were so amazing. Like, you know, you look at like, I remember going to play Streets of Rage on an arcade and thinking this, something like this will never be in someone's house, right? You go into an arcade now, just everything feels dated. You just got two wheezy people like me and you potentially would be those people on a dance machine just having a battle

And no one else is even the penny things people just don't care Yeah, I think changing fortunes on one of those What do you mean? Well back in the day if you won like three quid that was fucking hell. I mean, I see right Yeah, i'm in the arcade for another four hours. Yeah I played an arcade game about sorry about three years ago for a pound you get one life now. You don't need some arcades now. This is what this is what I couldn't believe this what staggered me is that sometimes we go bowling

with the kids and they've got an arcade next to it. Hollywood bowl and man crawling. And yeah, shout out Hollywood Bowl. And some of those arcades mate, the sitting down ones where you like you'd been shooting or whatever all racing those two quid ago What yeah, I know I know three lives There's no lives in a right. Oh in there in the no in there of shooting one. It's like you get it There's no lives. It's like you just got the energy bar as soon as that's gone. Wow. The energy bar becomes sacred right? I mean it's always is but you've got three lives the first two you're quite casual about the energy bar. Yeah yeah yeah it's very much it's very much like sort of a Hindu principle isn't it you're going to get reincarnated and come straight back

into this except you're not going to come back as a dog you'll come back actually in exact the exact same moment. But yeah, it's a lot. It's like real life if you look at allies, the first part of your life, you're very frivolous with your energy bar. You're throwing it out there, you don't really care. Second part, you're a little bit more cautious, but you still drop a bit of energy where you can. Third bit, you're holding on to any bit of energy like it's sacred. Every millimetre of your energy bar means something. you sacred every millimeter of your only energy bar means something yes yeah no it's good it's it's a it's a really good analogy I do think you make a good point

though that um like when I was yesterday I did the radio show right and then I came home and I had and I was really knackered I've had a bit of a mad week so I was just I'm just gonna chill out today I'd take Theo this I'll get into in a minute as well I'd take Theo to like this party but I had the whole day ahead of me it went so quick I got back sort of early afternoon the day went so quick it was bedtime so quick I remember like back in the day mate I don't listen I know it's a cliche but back in the day when you were a teenager if you had the whole day I feel like an eternity. Oh Yeah, yeah, I remember when I was a kid when I was a kid summer holidays six weeks

This fucking vast ocean of time that you didn't even know what you're gonna do when I became a teacher bloody Oh that went quick that went bloody. Yeah, I tell you and now it's even quicker now I don't think we're halfway through February already. Oh, I can't believe it. Where's the bloody year gone? You know, it's going to be... We're all going to be old Lanzani before we know it, aren't we? How do you feel about the level of shock everyone had to the fact that January lasted as long as it did? It felt Instagram this year and TikTok was awash with people just sort of commenting quite how long January seemed to be. I mean it's the same length

really it's what 32 days 31 days? 32? It's the same length for most of the rest of the months. Are you really sorry are you genuinely saying 32? As if you're not sure. You don't know 32? I don't keep on top of the months now. I just fucking roll from bit to bit week to week I'm a daily guy It's about not about keeping up with the months what I want to know is have you ever had a meeting put on? For the 32nd of January just a very simple question What is it? Yeah, I don't think I have no no Doesn't exist, right?

So I don't think I have no no no doesn't exist right So It's a 31 days No, no, I just need to I just need to just take a little bit of an inspiration into this right because Obviously I talked to you a lot Outside of the podcast and it's only when we're talking on the podcast that we really get into like how we think about things Jimmy because most of the Time you sort of going fucking our hell of a fucking bugger earlier So this is not when we really get like deep into shit, right? Yeah. Yeah

And I want to know when you said 32 was that we are doing a we doing a bit for the podcast So do you know if it was 32 days or 31 days? There's no I mean it I not going to criticize you about it, because it doesn't affect your life that much. But I'm just slightly, I sort of, I can't believe that you thought that. Do you know what I mean? Do you understand what I'm saying?

Well, it was 32 days. So no months are 32 days, right? Everywhere is 31 days. Is this real? Is this fucking real? What's happening now? No, I'm just saying that is the deep day one. Are you asking me any months 32 days? Yeah, but why, but why was that the thing? Where's day? This is fucking real. What's not just saying that is

But why did it why was that the thing That's a great question. I don't know the answer to but why did they say not separated that every month was 30 days? Okay, but but but it just in response to that You know, it's a Gregorian calendar. I don't know where the 30 31 comes from Let's not even get started on the 28 Okay, but yeah, that's where that's where I find it. Someone's dropped a real bollock Okay, that was dropped a clang of it. But what if I was to give you any advice I would say In order for you to abide by something that happens in life don't feel that you have to understand it

right like so what's the point of living if you don't understand stuff so if you if you're saying there is no point in living if you don't understand this stuff i would say see that as he needs to be put on fucking suicide watch immediately okay I've seen you not understand why mayonnaise is going straight onto bacon in a sandwich. So yeah, I find that fucking insane. Yeah. So anyway, anyway, sorry. A lot of people. Well, it's actually interesting.

What is it interesting? This thing about making observations, the observations are actually cliches. For example, January is really long. I've been guilty of it. It's a big thing, isn't it, that January takes ages. It's because January... Yeah, but it feels as though it's only got big in the last sort of three years. This year especially, it's gone fucking mad.

It's a tipping point, isn't it? It starts off being an initial kind of observation people are going on. Genuinely, it's a bit long. It just continues and continues until eventually, eventually we become that thing of like this originally happened where the idea that Christmas starts early, earlier every year, that was, that was at one point, that was an original observation. Somebody said, bloody hell, Christmas starts earlier every year, That was at one point, that was an original observation. Somebody said bloody hell Christmas starts earlier every year doesn't it? And people laughed. You know that somebody out there was the first person to make that observation and that person's probably still got legendary status in their group.

Do you remember? Oh no, no, no, no, no. No one would even remember it was that person now. No, that's true. That is true. But now it's a January being a long. Yeah, January being a long month. It's on its way to being that you know, it's uh, I did a gig, uh at the end of January and I did a couple of gigs that week and it felt like everyone opened with a bit of the january Yeah, I wanted to go on and say january's not long enough for me

I wish it went on for another five days or at least another day um so yeah you're such a you're such a bloody you're such a little you're such a bloody little contrarian aren't you I like yeah I I'm what would you just okay I know I know no you're you just you just walk a different walk I mean swag a different swag. You can't help it. I wish I could get to the side as best I can.

If someone says go left, I should go right, friend. If someone says climb that ladder, I should go down the slide. It's how I live my life. It's what I do. Yeah, it's unusual to have a slide at the bottom of a ladder. Ha ha ha ha!

That's why I love you. This is why I adore you. My G. January is a long month. I was, when I was walking to the radio show yesterday, so often you'll have people that have listened to who Radio 2's got on, guest-wise, and there's a little cafe by BBC Broadcasting House.

Cafe Nero, I believe. And it is Cafe Nero, yeah. Shout out Cafe Nero, is it? Yeah, Cafe Nero. I think Cafe Nero's a little cafe by BBC Broadcasting House. Cafe Nero, I believe. It is Cafe Nero, yeah. Shout out Cafe Nero. Yeah, Cafe Nero. I think Cafe Nero is doing a nice pastry. Anyway, often people will ask for an autograph or a photo or something like that. People are still asking for autographs. Yeah.

Fuck. Yeah. A lot of people have just books of autographs. And my autograph is so, I don't know if I don't know if I know what your graph looks like even though we signed all those pictures but my autograph is very sure your graph is cool as well because you have got a cool autograph I don't need you look like you're practicing that in the in the rec room when you're a teacher I remember like yeah just sort

of as I moved into the sixth form in the comedy I think it was when I offered my first ten minutes, but I thought hold on a minute I'm not destined for this world for much longer And so often I would just you know, they'd find me when I supposed to be preparing for lessons just practicing Hey, man, stay lucky rom, you know, just like different sort of Your own reports that used to do for them With your own graph on it. Oh god. Do you know your autograph on it. Oh god do you know what somebody sent me? So basically somebody sent me, somebody used to teach sent me a Head of Sixth Form video where like they go around and they ask like what have you got to say to the leavers? Oh my god!

And it was just like me. This is my fucking Star Wars. First of all I was wearing this sort of diamond, argyle kind of sleeveless vest with a shirt and tie. Oh, I was going to say, how should you wear a shirt and tie? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just sleeveless, argyle vest, nothing on the bottoms. Just like a sort of, it's like if Winnie the Pooh was going to play golf. Um, no.

And then I was just going, guys, I know you see me as like some sort of hero, but just remember if you work really hard, and if you really strive and you really struggle and you put your all into it, maybe one day you can be 10% as great as I am. Good luck. Oh, wow. Yeah. I feel like that's not that far from something I'd say now, really. Yeah, but I bet at that time you were like the funniest coolest guy in that school

So it's probably meant quite a lot to them. Do you mean? Yeah, I'm not I mean, I'm not committed it but anyway, the point is anyway forget all of this Um as you're going in on your way into radio to these people that sat at the cafe Somebody said to me it was pissing it down on Saturday morning when I went into the radio show. And as walking in, one of the guys said to me, so wet one, isn't it? Oh, and right. Yeah. So and then it occurred to me that sometimes, do you know, like I suddenly thought to myself, that guy, obviously,

it's a wet one, right? It's pissing it down. Yeah down yeah right but that guy is just making but what he's doing is he's making a noise like what like he's he doesn't think that's an like what I'm saying is sometimes I've thanks to knowing you I've got a slight appreciation now for saying things just for the sake of saying something did you know I mean yeah cuz I cuz I this part of you that wants to go, well, of course it's a fucking wet one. It's pissing it down. But he's not saying it like he's,

you don't want to treat it like he's delivering you information, right? The guy is like just going. Yeah, he knows that you know it's a wet one. Yeah. He's basically like a, he's like, you know, he just wants to make a noise at me, so that I make a noise back,

so we've interacted with each other. Yeah, and all of a sudden you've had a conversation, and he can go, he could do podcasts with his best mate He just wants to make a noise at me so that I make a noise back so we've interacted with each other And he can yeah, he could do a podcast with his best mate and go guess who I spoke to about the weather this weekend Who yeah, what was Reagan? I said? Yeah, fuck off. What? Yeah. I basically said it's a wet one He turned around and went it's kind of jury being it pal and then he went into near only Yeah, I did well I do I was Nero, I got myself a little double espresso to give myself a pre-show pep. He said to me, it's a wet one isn't it? I said, yeah bloody nightmare isn't it? Oh wow, wow. You know if it's raining and you want to make conversation with someone, best conversation starter, good weather for ducks.

Great one. Really good one. Really good one. Part of me is tempted to like, cause they're often the guys that like come for autographs and photographs are often sat in the tables outside Cafe Nero. I've often dabbled with the idea of sitting down with them, joining them for such a long time that they end up leaving. You know, it initially starts off as, oh that's cool, Romas has sat with us, and then eventually... If you did it, I think it would take three weeks, three or four weeks to do that,

before they found somewhere else to sit. Oh, they're not here anymore. How many times do they get your autograph and your picture? Is it the same people every time? It's different people, it's different people every time. Sometimes you see the same people. Do you know any of their names now or you? No, no. It's a fucking cool flex that you've got like groupies. There's one or two people I've seen. They're not there for me, they're there for Radio 2

because I know that people, all the Radio 2 lot going through that door. I don't want to give the impression that I think they're there to meet me. Can I just ask, is there a VIP entrance to Radio 2 as well or does everyone come through the front no matter who you are? Is there a VIP entrance? There might be but it's not one that I'm aware of.

I just go through the main front. I mean they've got security and stuff, you can't just wander in. By the way, can I say security at Radio 2 are exemplary. They're lovely people. They're some of the nicest people that people who work out there that genuinely just top people. Lovely guys and a real like band with them and if you don't every time I go in there's one of them who loves talking about football. Right okay I'm assuming one of them what said oh I really love Merchant successful or something like that and now that means they're the greatest person in the world. I'm not that funny. Oh really enjoyed really enjoy merging successful or something like that. And now that means that

really enjoyed really what when is King Gary coming back? And it's something that's a question I'm asked by a lot. And yeah, I've answered it. I will not be pushed on that matter. But yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, start a conversation with me going where's Ramesh and I'll go probably at home or yeah

maybe he's actually training for his marathon is he running a marathon then we just chat about you running marathons which is usually quite yeah and then at some point go you're not working much in a moment that's what people throw in. Well what I can say is Tom Davis is booked and busy. Yeah, this guy has got some, you got some shit on the go. That's why you're sort of frothing a little bit at the moment. No, no, no. You've got a froth to you. Can I say, after having a bit of a lousy one last year when it came to auditions and going for things and film work.

I feel that this year, like I started off this year, I can't be, I don't know if I'm allowed to say what it is, but I'm genuinely working with one of my, the people that I really, I think it amazing, I think is one of my heroes in the game. So it's a very touch, touch wood, it all goes well. I don't get written out, But can I say, by the way, number one, we know, I've touched you about like imposter syndrome and the thing I'm doing is a lot

of incredible A-listers and actors and I do sometimes find myself being quite worried about that. But also I've realised how much I need like schedule and I was sent home early the other day and genuinely got back and didn't sleep that whole night because I took that that I what I'd done which was very little in this was not good enough and that's why I've been sent home early and then someone had to talk me down from a rooftop to say no no that's just sort of how this is gonna run, type thing. Who had to talk you down from a rooftop?

That's someone from the film. Someone from the film? Yeah, I was like, this is just how it works. It's just, yeah. Like, to put it into context, and you know this, when you're filming and you're on set for anything, usually they'll keep you around till wrap, even if you're not needed. There's very seldom, I'd say, it's very refreshing on the thing I'm at the moment, which is very unlike anything else I've ever done. If you're

not needed and they're done with you, they send you home. It's like, okay, you can go, I've lost count the amount of times where I've been on set and you go, oh, am I going to be needed? They might need you in six hours. So just go and sit in your trailer. Do you think it undermines sort of the... Because obviously this production that you're talking about is running very efficiently. Do you think it undermines that efficiency when they send you home and then they have to have an hour phone conversation with you,

sort of reassuring you that you're still involved in the project? I don't think it's probably ever happened before. I don't think it's ever. I can't imagine it has. I can't think it's probably ever happened before I don't think you know I can't imagine it has No, I think in any work in the world if you're working as a teacher you working a Burger King You're working wherever and so goes you know what you can get off early tonight Anyone then expects a phone call of someone going Is this?

This does this mean I'm not coming back tomorrow Yeah It's very embarrassing because I was leaving Is this is this does this mean I'm not coming back tomorrow Yeah It's very embarrassing because I was leaving God this is I was saying to everyone to the point where one of the other actors went. Are you alright? I was going and we yeah, and I'm definitely going back and I'm and I'll be back here tomorrow, right? And the person's like yeah. Yeah, you're in a scene tomorrow. Yeah, so okay So yeah, so definitely back back here tomorrow and then as as was arranged not uh so uh yeah probably what what time do you think i would be

picked off there like what would you send you a call sheet so i'll definitely get a call sheet because i'm still here tomorrow it was so embarrassing it was uh yeah you've got you've got to internalize that man yeah no but this is the problem this is why I'm the guy outside fucking nearer saying go. It's a wet one. It's cuz I need to Wrong with that person. Yeah that was If you need to just like, you know, just assume that I could testify as quite a lot of stuff. We all could testify as but you got what I'm saying is don't customize anymore

Yeah, yeah You must have that I know I mean you don't yeah I know you do have it by the way because I've actually talked to you down from the bill that off the building But you do is a flip of me you internalize it to a point that you've pushed it so far down inside of you Yeah, they eat away at you for like days. Yeah. I sometimes go for a shit and just a small black pellet of self doubt comes out my mouth.

That might be one of my favourite things you've ever said. Yeah, I do push it down deep inside. But I've had to... The thing is you can't burden, you can't burden people on the finger. You have to just stay. And may I say by the way, the person I spoke to was absolutely lovely though, yeah.

Yeah, no, sure, sure. No, it gives you. Took my face. I have no doubt that after the phone was put down they went, oh my God, what a needy fucking loser that guy is. Who are you talking about? You're talking about the guy that was in the back of the shot, he's worried that he didn't loser that guy is. Who are you talking about? You're talking about the guy that was in the back of the shot.

He's worried that he didn't do that well enough. The guy that had to walk over and pick up the glass of water and take a sip. That guy. He's worried that what he did during that scene means he won't be invited back. Are you both talking about Tom Davis, who was crying as he left set today?

Like a kid who had to leave a fucking party too early. Can we talk about, you know, we've been texting about this. I know this is not much of a segue, but I'm gonna say this now, and I'm nervous about saying this because for a long time, I've considered one of the greatest artists for, you know, that's emerged for a long time.

Yeah. Yeah, obviously you've been a big fan and you supported all his work. I'm a huge fan. I'm a huge fan. You've loved him. And it's possible, it's possible that he is going through it. I think he is definitely going through it.

And also, this is one person that I'd say that you've tried to emulate, you've dressed like, you've acted like. Yeah, I askedisa to just wear a complete see-through body stocking to the baftas um you brought his traits i thought you were talking about gino de campo i was i was building up to do the gino Di Cambo punchline and you beat me to it. Oh shit, yeah but you crossed, yeah yeah go go go.

Yeah I took too long in the build up. I'm talking about Ye, formerly known as Kanye West. I'm just looking through some of the stuff he's been posting and he has a habit of posting quite a tension grabbing stuff when he's about to drop an album which he probably is he's talking about either vultures 3 or bully project it's been talking about the stuff he's been posting first of all he's just announced a clothing line a Sean John clothing club right so he's he's and claiming solidarity with Diddy, which... In itself is, even if that's just, I mean that's very much, yeah, that feels

in itself. I mean the most... This is like, by the way, this is an episode in itself because there's so many fucking... Yeah, I mean I'm assuming, I'm assuming there's a series, there's like six or seven bottles of pills that have remained untouched at Ye's house because he's obviously not getting whatever he needs to get. And he's just tweeting stuff like, men are the real abuse victims. Real rape is different than some attractive

and competent B word wearing tight pants to work and keeping receipts to extort their boss someday. Then he said stuff about, obviously that horrible Cassie video of Diddy just being horrendous. He said I don't care about that video. Just the guy... Yeah, but also then double down on his anti-semitic stuff, his... Yeah, he's doubled down on all of that. He's said horrible things about Jewish people. The guy is, he's done. We can't, I just think if you were like still riding for Yeh, despite the stuff he said in the past.

No, but the thing is, obviously it's testament to how incredible the stuff is He's created is and also there is something very attractive Artistically about somebody that doesn't give a shit about what they say, but he is like feels like he's you can't Burning any bridges he's got he's just I mean not all of them because he's so so but he's sort of Trying to sort of associate with a certain group of people. And that sort of feels like his, yeah, it feels like, in a sense, there's been so much stuff that you watch, like, I don't know, I know, if you're a big fan of the UFC, and like someone like Sean Strickland, and some of

the stuff he's come out and said, you know, and Sean Strickland, like Kanye is a very, yeah, he was split opinion quite a lot as you know, but again, he feels like he's just doubling down on stuff and just saying the most atrocious things and you just think fucking oh, like this is such a mad world in which you know, people, the most aggressive, I mean, Jesus man, Gino has, Gino Di Campio has got me thinking, well, yeah, yeah, these two have basically taken a little bit off the fucking icing off my cake this week. It's been fucking, yeah, it's been a fucking mad one when it comes to people just saying shit. I mean, and also, I just found like his whole thing about he that compares himself to Twitter right like X well X people people call I fucking Twitter Twitter X Twitter Twitter X or don't call it that a fucking the same as

people still call him Kanye rather than yeah oh I see right if he's changed his name so you could still like Kanye but yeah he's a you know that's a lot of people saying a lot of people there's a lot of people saying, there's a lot of people tweeting I like Kanye, I can't stand Ye You know what I feel a bit sorry for is Kim Kardashian, she's got kids with him She's got to be looking at now thinking, fucking hell, this is going to take some fucking time This is more than, you know like, as a dad, you know, having to say, oh you know your dad got drunk last night and made a bit of a prick out of himself down at the sort

Of moon underwater You know I want to go. Oh, you know you have made an absolute fucking bell end out of himself in front of the whole fucking Yeah, what did he do? Oh he did he denounced all Jews and said that the section salt was okay. It sounds like that He was at the stellar again. Yeah, go imagine. What's gonna happen when he gets really drunk, but he Yeah, so it's just very depressing. It's depressing for society as a whole. That someone feels that that anyone feels that they can go out and say stuff like that. Yeah but I think the thing is is that again it's one of these things where we're talking about it, everybody's talking about it online so there's an argument that he's getting what he wants.

I think the best thing to do with him is to completely ignore him. I would strongly urge everyone to completely ignore him. Do you think when he drops his next album, whatever he's dropping, I mean, the clothesline, you would be seen dead in that now, but if he drops his album, will there still be people even reviewing it just to be like, even if it's terrible or whatever, or they're gonna say, like the thing should be, right, he releases his album, no one buys it,

no one downloads it, no one listens to it, and no one talks about it, and that's the best version of that. But that said, do you think that the way that we work in a world where clickbait and whatever, people getting clicks, no matter who you are, no matter what your media outlet is some sort of piece about how bad it is or we'll get people reading that and it will get people talking about him again so the thought

that anyone's just going to ignore him and let him go into the it feels like he is the thing that's getting talked about most you know i've seen really good people off work, you know, know, posting pictures of what he said and sharing that to sort of almost go, don't you know, this is how awful this is, how abolent this guy's views and how terrible this guy is. But then, like you say, right, that still encourages conversation. That still gets people sharing what he said. It still gets more. Yeah, it's just, yeah yeah I find it very sad I mean there's like I think

such a fucking it's such sad the world a lot of the time yeah no it's sad the world a lot of the time is but I think you're right I think people comment on Kanye and we're talking about as I said we're talking about it but I think the best thing to do is when Kanye inevitably drops an album, I think it should be treated like a fart in a lift. You know, you know it's there, but you just let it pass without comment because I think he thrives off attention. And actually, the truth is, you need to just deny him that completely. And I'm saying that as somebody that cares. There's obviously something going on there. He said some horrendous shit.

I'm done with him as a person, right? I've got no, I don't want, but there is a level of you that goes, he's obviously going through something. Do you know what I mean? I find it amazing, and what's super depressing about it is that, why isn't there anybody in his circle that's going, mate, like you need fucking help? Like, what? Yeah, but you've been around these people. Why isn't there anybody in his circle that's going mate like you need fucking help like

You've you've been around these people can I just say that we've not kind of several but I've worked with people who are seen Like and I'll talk off air to you about who but I've been around people where you're like Anyone who steps out and says oh, I don't think that's a good idea Oh, like the one of me, you know amongst other things if I don't think that's a good idea. Or, like, well, I mean, you know, amongst other things, if I was never say anything like that, but I know you pull my card, if I if you thought I was acting in a certain way, I know Katherine would I know James would I know flow would I know Hollywood, I've got people

you know, people, people don't know this, obviously, because it doesn't ever make it. But I've always, like, there is what? I would say how long we've been doing this for? Three, four years. There's probably, what, 45 minutes to an hour of clips of you saying just fucking super racist shit. And I've always, I've always, no, I do want to say this, I've always called you out immediately

and in your defense, you've always said straight afters. Oh, you know what maybe That is a bit much. Yeah, I still believe in what I said. I still very much now, but I said yeah What I would say is if you ever fuck with me, I'll put the supercut out. Okay, that's all I'm saying Well, I love it so something we're to believe that's true. That little venison grin is very Tom, I'm very proud of you for how you dropped that. Thanks man. Anyhow, my point here, I know you have as well, we both work with people who have a circle around them and then if someone sort of says something or goes against the ethos

or suggests, they're completely thrown out of that circle. Because people get to a level in this business where they don't want to hear any kind of sort of anything that goes against what they're saying or anyone who sort of might sort of go, oh, yeah, actually, I don't think you should say I don't think that's a wise move. I don't think you should do that thing. And it's easier not to have people like that around and question yourself. And I think when you get to that sort of the level that he's at, but I mean, I don't even know what he's said. He doesn't seem to me that he is in hazmat. He even has what he's said.

This is my, and by the way, I'm making a lot of assumptions here, but I think he strikes me as the sort of person that as soon as you show any kind of dissent, he removes you from the circle. So then if you're in that group, that entourage that's close to Ye, then as soon as you say something that's like, maybe you shouldn't have said that, or I disagree

with what he said, he will just have you removed. So then you'll sit in that situation where you go, well, at the moment I've got his ear, or however much you can have somebody like that's ear, I've got his ear. And as soon as I say something to express any disapproval, then as soon as I say something to express any disapproval, then I'm not going to be here anymore. So I guess there's a pressure in that. And then also, you know, even speaking out about these things in the first place is difficult. The point is, is what I'm trying to say is late registration wasn't good enough for him to be behaving like this now and still like this, this, it's fucking over. Like it's dumb. The guy, this is like, he needs to disappear for a period of time, get himself fucking sorted out, in my opinion. And then maybe there'll be some sort

of redemption arc for him. But currently, mate, it's fucking brutal. Like, like, I've not really heard him say much about Diddy ever in the past, and this is the time he decides to ride for Diddy. Forget, and now he's saying like, oh, there's all this like, you know, men are being persecuted for shit they haven't done or whatever. There's a fucking video of what he did to Cassie, man.

Like, what the fuck are you talking about? And then even that, he's like, oh like oh you know men are getting sold out by people used to work just please please for the sake of everyone that loves your work shut the fuck up it's just like so it's so bad man like anyway it's like are you still talking about Kanye you now talk about Gina? Well, there's a there's a small I would say there's a Su son of shut the fuck up. Can I say this weirdly? Less is a surprise for me about Gina than there was Kanye like can never Kanye's level of like Like what he said, which is atrocious and far worse and you know

Like what he said, which is atrocious and far worse and you know You could ever imagine but that has in a sense gone fucking out Wow Jesus Yeah, was Gino that like I've never been much of a fan I've always thought that's kind of what his fucking schnick was and I thought it was pretty pretty lazy fucking sort of vibe in itself, but That's what he was doing for like, whenever you'd see like him on this morning, or I mean, me and you did a show with him, whatever you did anything with him,

that's what his schtick was. It was like, I don't know what happened backstage, I was never a part of that fucking clique, but whenever I watched him, or was that one time I was around him, I was like, that was his fucking thing. I remember Joe Brand calling him out on that fucking show we did with him. It was, that was his fucking thing. I remember Joe Brand calling him out on that fucking show He did with him. It was that was that's all he ever did. Yeah

There's a difference between like there's a difference between Dropping a few sexually innuendos and being a bit, you know, carry on carry on Geno there's a difference in that and Making women feel uncomfortable in the workplace, which is what he's been accused of doing. Do you not think they're linked? Do you not think the fact that the situation, but the stuff that he was allowed to get away with and say on screen, then has a fuck,

you cultivate a behavior that is, oh, it's okay just to carry on like that, whether you, when you're on screen or not. It's like no one, again, we're talking about sort of, no one pulls his card, no one, and there was a certain amount of power that was granted to him to be that thing, do you know what I mean?

To behave in that way and to, you know, you only have to look at the clips that they're showing, you go, fucking hell, it was, it's not like we're going, oh, fuck, wow, that's like, oh, he was like a fucking bit of a fucking wrong, and you're like, that's, it felt like that's the only place that he ever fucking found any humor from he could turn anything into an innuendo yeah that's why those clips went viral that's why people loved it

Jimmy like that's why yeah but then he was the most popular like guy that came on to do the cooking segments on this morning because of that. It's because of that. Yeah. And the sort of Italian language issues or whatever, do you know what I mean? You know, that was all part of the, that's all part of the shtick, isn't it? And he's posting, he's, by the way, I don't know, I know this, I've read this story about him, what he said to some woman about, I want to bend you over or whatever. There's that one thing and there's something, there's a couple of things I don't know. Con I don't concretely know what it is that ITV have disassociated themselves

with him for, do you know what I mean? It's all very much like up in the air and there are people that think that this is like an overreaction as well. You know, there's a lot of people that are defending him and saying the woke mob has gone crazy and, um, and you can't say anything anymore, etc. Not everybody thinks the same way that the ITV do, for example. A lot of people think it's unfair. For the reasons that you've given, a lot of people think that's what Gino's like and that's

just his thing. But that is also in what you're saying what people would have said to a runner or someone of if someone went, oh Geno's just said that people would go, oh that's just Geno. Do you know what I mean? That's what people would have been the excuse for his behaviour for a long time. Well, you know, if I'm being honest with you, I think that the truth is, is that there is a, there's a power dynamic that means you're not on a level playing field. And it's something I've had to be mindful of. Sometimes if you're on a set and you're making jokes or taking the piss, I'm not talking

about sexually, I'm talking about just taking the piss out of a runner or a production staff member, they're not allowed to, or they don't feel comfortable to, unless you develop a really good relationship with these people, they're not gonna feel comfortable to talk to you on the same level that you're talking to them. So you're not on a level playing field. You know, I was working on a sitcom where the lead sort of star and writer,

the way that he would sort of bowl around the set and sort of do what he thought was funny behavior but to all intents and purposes was bullying you know and and people around it. Can I say by the way, I was watching your I watched and listened to your interview with Jesse Eisberg yesterday and it felt like you were yeah when you were talking about Kieran Goldkip, there's a little part of you that was like, yeah, I've it's, I think, do you know, I've said this and this is one thing

and I know this probably, I think when people are, you're having a joke and laugh with people. And I'm, within having a laugh and having a joke and like not being too harsh or too horrible. If someone takes a mick out of me, I feel worse. And it's done in a certain way without, I'm not talking about, because I don't want to invite as fucking people being just fucking genuinely fucking horrible and offensive but someone's having a bit of a banter and

you're having a bit of laugh I take that as being are they feel comfortable working my company to have a joke with me they feel relaxed enough around me. I do want to be clear on this when we were doing it obviously I was making a joke about King Gary when we were doing King Gary I saw sort of essays and runners and production team members sort of having a joke and you know, having a like a, like a sort of a piss-take conversation. I saw that, you know, I saw, and you were like, you would laugh and stuff. Did I see them again on the production? No, but that's not, but that's not, that's not I certainly feel uncomfortable in the moment have they worked in the industry again no again no but my point

being that because I love the fact you I'm trying to be serious you completely had to find me but um no no no no no no no i find it very funny in all seriousness you you do have a joker out of people the point i'm trying no no but but my point gone but yeah i think what i'm trying and you're very much like that as well i think everything i've ever worked at uh you say for example i'm oh there's a guy actually on the job and did lucas who was uh who worked on the show he did with kathryn oh romantic getaway? Yeah, I know Lucas, I love Lucas. Yeah, and he's a runner on the thing I'm doing now. Lovely kid, straight away, as soon as I saw him, because I did a day on that with you or two, and I had a laugh with him, and straight away

we were chatting about that, chatting about how lovely you are, and it goes a long way, but he's straight away comfortable enough to have a bit of a joke, and that's what you want. It's like you want a bit of a, you want people to feel relaxed enough that they can have a bit of a joke. And that's what you want. It's like you want a bit of a you want people to feel relaxed enough that they can have a laugh and feel themselves is it as I said earlier, you're doing long, long hours and doing that. But there is and I've been around people. And sometimes

I've called that behavior out in person, probably to my detriment, but it is like you do watch people and I think it's a generational thing. I don't think there's as many people, certainly the people that I look at that me and you would be friends with and we've come up with. I think there was a generation probably above us and above that, that that sort of behavior was allowed to go and that sort of, yeah, I don't know, I just feel like it's a bit of a sad thing at times. Yeah, but anyway listen, it's a weird one how like sometimes you feel like, you know sometimes you get the yin and the yang of it and like for me somebody I thought was artistically brilliant and amazing has sort of ended up disappointing me and a lot of people

in Kanye and I feel like that sort of happened to you with Gino. Do you know what I mean? Like it's interesting seeing the opposite sides of that you know where you know somebody that I was sort of emulate in terms of creativity and somebody that's a sort of that's what's happened for you as well so it's been nice to go through that together. There was a time when I tried to dress in those skinny jeans and a vest with a black leather shirt over it and tried to look like Gino. Yeah.

At the time when... Yeah. I would love to hear from people if they think that this Gino thing has been blown out of proportion. Because I've been looking online and loads of people have been saying this is mad. And Gino's actually been posting as if it's not happening happening which I understand that's that sort of he wants to sort of show that people you know he just did a post of him he's because he does a range of air fries doesn't it so yeah yeah he's oh actually sorry there's him he's done a video this video is like yesterday yeah

he's got an airfryer cookbook and I think he's got a right line of air fries as well and it's him at Asda Just meeting a load of fans So he's obviously just like trying to show that he's still got support of the public and to put it into context what? Yeah, I mean he's made people feel very uncomfortable. I think you gotta say Kanye has swept the board with It's just horrendous because it's like somebody that people really look up to sort of dismissing sexual abuse and whatever happens just yeah right it's pretty grim anyway should we do should we do some emails Tom?

Let's do a sweet sweet email. Let's do an email. Okay. Now, I think that it's fair to say that Tom and I have now been anesthetized from talking about our body image and self image and self loathing after the feedback we received talking about it on last week's episode. But somebody got in touch here, this is the healing pigeon. Hi wolf owl and the whole wolf pack.

Okay, this is, let me just take issue with this first element. Wolf pack. This animal pack. Wolf pack. We're getting a lot of emails by the way that is quite clear that the the people that are emailing are more of a fan of you than me. I just want to get that out there. I don't think that's true. Well, firstly, thank you for your podcast.

I've been listening to you for years and I introduced my sister to the pod and now she loves it too. We call each other to laugh at the funny bits. And we came to see you live at Hammersmith too. Boom, boom. Tom reminds us of, oh, this is very sweet actually. Tom reminds us of our late dad who passed a few years ago. It's the way you talk, the London of vocab and the friendliness. Like saying moustache instead of moustache. We love it.

Plus dad had a tash. Let's see if there's anything about me. No. Anyway I was listening to your recent podcast about... You've got a moustache. By the way there was a video of you shout out Coughlands as well. Yeah. There's a video of you shout out Coughlin's as well yeah there's a video of you at cough I've got to say by the way in all of our time together as friends I think the Coughlin's stuff is my favorite stuff that you're that's your favorite by the way every version every time I've done anything it's been your favorite version of me so this is your new your legs because you're good at just tell you by the way you're all snippy it's not that cynical about me. It shows

how much I adore you as a person. Right, go on. It shows genuinely, I love the Radio 2 interviews, I think all of your... I actually would say I'm very proud to be with you and known to be with you on the basis that the stuff you put out is so fucking unworthy. It's very humble, it's very decent, but the stuff in Coughlands, I like it. You're fucking put, mate, you're not just like involved in Coughlands. You're getting stuck in. You're having a day at work in a Coughlands. You're getting around the pit. I tell you what, I'm like being at like, if you're working at, me and you have both done jobs, right, and worked. You come in there and like, you know, without fucking bro to make up your ass, you come in there and having a laugh with the people for a day of

working there that's gonna mean the world to them so I think yes shout out you and shout out coffins if you've got a coffins near you by the way some of the best fuck yeah what pastries cakes sausage rolls are off the scale well I went in there and I did well I went to the main bakery and not had a go at making some of the stuff then I went into the dorking and crawly branch and and I just Was like being myself Jimmy just going up to the girls at work. They're tapping them on the arse and going you're looking fit You more uneasy about me giving you a compliment than you were about the Kanye tweets more uneasy about me giving you a compliment than you were about the Kanye tweets. What's wrong, Ron? Is it the stuff about what Kanye is saying about Jews?

No, Tom said he enjoyed my comedy and I'm really struggling to process it. Yeah, I'm really struggling. I really find that quite a hard thing to get my head around. By the way, I think I'd be... I would never be allowed to go to their main bakery. I don't think I'd get out. I'd be like Augustus Gloop in that shit. Yeah, it was tricky. I mean, I had a lot of doughnuts. I will say this though, Tom. I'm very excited about this for you. I'll tell you about it. I can't announce it, but Sean Coughlin and myself, when I went to the main bakery we were chatting about a new product We had an idea for a new product and then Sean being Sean made that product that we talked about For when I went into the bakeries, let me try the first one

It might be the best thing I've ever tasted in my life. I'm so when I tell you that I can't tell you it now It's gonna be Fire. Anyway, let's carry with this email. Well, thank you for the conversation I tell you that I can't tell you it now. It's gonna be fire. Anyway, let's carry on with this email. Thank you for the confidence. Can I just say, Tom, I think you're a great guy too. I'm a mindset coach and energy healer, just like Ron summarized in the podcast episode.

It all comes back to how you perceive yourself and your subconscious beliefs. This is your perspective and it's formed early on and expands through confirmation bias. Your brain is looking to confirm what it knows to be true and only filters in that information deleting the rest if you if you wouldn't mind Me applying this to your anecdotes even on today's podcast Tom When you're talking about doing this thing that you're doing with this hero of yours You then did this thing and you've gone on to it going. I don't deserve to be here. That's your that's how you're wired

All right I don't serve to be here and then's how you're wired, right? I don't deserve to be here. And then anything that happens during the day, just you will pick the stuff that feeds that belief, right? That's what happened to you. To the point where you're sort of phoning somebody that's trying to work on the film, taking it out of their time saying, am I gonna be asked back tomorrow?

You know? So this is very pertinent to you. The good news is is this can shift. Your brain is so changeable. I work with clients on their subconscious mindset, their nervous system and their energy to transform how they see themselves and how they show up in the world. So if you're up for it, I'd love to offer you both a confidential session to dive deep into the root and start the healing process.

We do this for free, it says, as a thank you for the last me and my sister explored. We owe you and we're so grateful, lots of love for the healing pigeon. Is that something you'd be up for doing Tom? Oh man, yeah. I mean if it could, yeah. Can I, can I, can I, I'm gonna do this.

I'm gonna take quite a maverick decision here Tom, and I've not discussed this with you obviously because we've only just read this email out. I think we should invite one of them on, or both of amazing and and see if they can give us they don't have to Do the whole thing so obviously they don't want to give away what they do. You don't want to give away Yeah, you know why by the I'm not suggesting they're a cow, but why buy the cow can get the milk free I understand that Yeah, situation where a pigeon not count. Yeah pigeon. Yeah, why buy the pigeon when you can get there

anyway the point is, if you're willing to come on the podcast and talk to us about this, because I think it'd be quite helpful to other people as well, then please let us know. I'll reply to them. Cool. Amazing stuff. Boodle, boodle, boodle, boom. On the theme of fans of Tom, this is from The Chair who says, hello, I fucking love your podcast.

I really do. It cheers me up. To keep this short, I was wondering if Tom has ever considered singing, making a record with such baritone vocals. Rom, I know there's been suggested a hip-hop album, but there's been no result. Please answer. Love you both, The Chair. Tom. No.

What do you mean no? I can't sing sing I can't sing. What do you mean? You can't sing you see you can rap and you can also sing Tom. You have got Tom Give us a little do me a favor. Right? What's the song? But you know, I Mean I'm a big oh my god, by the way, can I just say yeah, come on, please do music. I Watch the boys and documentary. Oh my god. I've seen clips of this By the way, can I just say? Yeah, go on. Please do. Talking about the music. I watched the Boysland documentary. Oh my God. I've seen clips of this. What's going on? What's going on with Louis Walsh? What's going on with Louis Walsh?

Louis Walsh, by the way, is a drain. He's a fucking disgusting human being. Like he's a fucking little prick. Like, you know what? I'm not even going to discuss him because I just I loathe that man with every There's no surprise as well, but he's horrible. Watch it He's the worst version of fucking people in their industry can possibly get okay I was very affected by the end of it with the

Everything that involved Stephen Gately and the stuff that's even getting, I sort of knew a little bit about and found that obviously horrible and it was terrible. But the end of it, the stuff that Mikey went through in that. I don't know about any of this. So talking about the stuff that we talk about and sort of like body dysmorphia and stuff that he talks about in the beginning, he talks about being on stage and looking out at the audience and seeing people sort of holding picks up of Steve and Rone and Keith and Shane. And then they'd be known of him and people having signs

saying, I love you, Steve, marry me, Rone and whatever. And saying like, how was a 21 year old, that just what that did to him, do you know what I mean? And what that did to his confidence and how that made him feel, which sort of, I suppose something 21 year old, that just, what that did to him, do you know what I mean? And what that did to his confidence and how that made him feel, which, you know, sort of, I suppose, something I resonated, that you feel a little bit, you know, that feeling. And then, yeah, just as it, just the ending of it,

I know it sounds dramatic, it's sat with, it's still sitting with, I found it really quite, it's really sad, it's really, I thought it was a brilliantly put together documentary. But yeah, I mean if music goes Yeah, I've been listening to a lot of boys own a West life this way. What what songs do you know? like some of the words to cuz Father and son. Okay. Do you could you could you give us a little burst of it? Give me like a real baritone like really give it some um, cuz I think so what low

Yeah, it's not time to make a change Just sit down and take it easy You're still young. That's not your fault. There's so much you have to go through Oh Tom, that was beautiful. I genuinely I do moon river every night to grace the sing Do you know the song I bond with? I do Moon River every night to grace. I sing Moon River. Can we hear that?

I'd love to hear that. I'll try. I'll try. Go for it. Moon River, wider than a mile. I'm crossing you in style someday. Oh, you dream maker, you heartbreaker, wherever you're going, I'm going your way. I sing that, she sings it to me now.

That's lovely man and you know what was really nice is you really got into it. That's why I stopped myself because I started feeling a bit like Hugh Grant at the end of about a boy if you start feeling a bit of pride I could say that and then if you were discussing with yourself I'd say pride or another PRI word sort of like started evoking from my stomach yeah I like singing to myself I'd love the only person I've ever do an album with, Ramesh. Okay. If it was like a sort of, yeah. I've said that I'd love to do a country and western meets hip hop album with you. Yeah. Even a song that we could do together. Yeah, that'd

be lovely. Should we really try to work towards doing a Christmas song this year? I would bloody love to put something else on the table that we're not going to do. I would love that. Let's just try to put that together. We've got some friends in the industry, we've got some people who could help. All right, you want to do a Christmas song? Do it for Calm. Let's do it for Calm. It won't make any money. It won't make any money. Yeah, but maybe it will. We're going to call it break even for Calm. Hopefully, fingers crossed. I just think us doing a nice fucking thing. What I don't want to do is Sending Carmen invoice for studio costs

Because we fucking taking a massive bath on this chain. You could do one of your maps. I Christmas is fun. Christmas is great I celebrate Christmas with all my mates Oh My god, I mean you go lovely Christmas Hope you have me for a reason Let the reason be love the Christmas pudding is steaming away something like that okay yeah maybe this this day this day right Tom it's it's about that time could you would you be kind enough to close this out please Momo was a duck, a sweet duck, kind it considered, not like the rest of the ducks in its pack of ducks and never really felt like it found much of a kinship with the other ducks. A lot of the time the other ducks would splash around

in the water just having laddish sort of harsh banter. And Momo found it hard to get involved. One day he was sitting alone in a little dry patch of mud. Been dry that day, friend. And he saw a wiggly worm just trying to make its way across the mud. So Momo hopped over to the worm. The worm looked at him and said, please, please don't eat me duck, don't eat me. And Momo stared into the worm's eyes.

We said, well, all ducks, all birds eat worms. And he said, no, no, no, I'm not here to eat you. What's wrong, friend? What are you doing? What's your name? The worm turned around and said, my name is Barney, Barney the worm. I'm trying to get out of this dry mud to make it to a softer mud where I can dig and burrow and be a worm of my best version of a worm so Momo looked at Barney and said hop on my back friend hop on my back I shall take you to the softer mud." So the worm wiggled up Momo's leg and got onto his back and Momo hopped across the mud, the dry, harsh mud across his paws, feet, are they paws? I don't know. Anyhow, he made it to the soft mud and let Barney

down. Barney stared at Momo and said, that's amazing, that's the kindest thing that anyone's ever done for me. He was me thinking as a duck you were gonna eat me but you actually showed generosity and kindness. Thank you, you're the best duck I've ever met. And Barney scurried off into the mud and Momo sat and thought about it. He looked at his reflection just for a second and it was weird. He felt like he was taller. Somehow he was brighter, somehow he was better in his little action that he'd done and he thought to himself hmm is that me? Have I got it all figured out have I made a change I

haven't got it all figured out but you know what from just doing one kind thing to one lonely little worm I feel a little bit better today and maybe that's what we should all do you haven't got to try and change the world but one small act of kindness each day can make you and someone else feel a whole lot better Thank you Back to the kinship the animals and felt that was a nice way to know that is a really nice way of doing it really really beautiful lovely lovely lovely lovely closing thoughts. Thank you Tom for that.

Okay, JT, could you do us the honor of playing us out with a little bit of Boyzone Father and Son? The real version, not my one. The real version, I don't know, lay Tom's vocals over it, that'd be lovely actually, if we could do that. Thank you so much for listening guys. Yo, one last thing. Yo.

Oh shit. Yeah, big thing happening this week. Yo, hold on a sec. Yo. Yo. We talked about this and it's happening. So this, I think on Wednesday, when the podcast drops and you're listening to this podcast, go over to the Wolf and Owl Instagram page and we are going to drop three pictures for what will become our new ident on Spotify, Apple and all the other places you get. It's a big, big move. So yeah, so you get, you're going to vote and whichever one wins and we don't want to

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