Wolf and Owl - S4 Ep 9: Maison Davis & Tibetan Monks

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

We’re talking… Tom’s new house (and choosing a name for it), a trip to Latvia, cultural generalisations, a friendly Ukrainian taxi driver, doing yoga with a belching Tibetan monk, Rom’s new ze...n attitude, the highs and lows of shopping in Riga, a Dog Man movie review, standing ovations at films, the new Captain America and an introduction to Romesh Skywalker. Plus, there’s feedback from some very decent estate agents and we tackle another tricky moral dilemma. For questions or comments, please email us at wolfowlpod@gmail.com - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Mighty Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: HELLO@KEEPITLIGHTMEDIA.COM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yo, what you want? Beak or jaws? Feathers or fur? Sharp teeth or feet with claws? Whatever's preferred They'll grant you all ass requests to steady your nerves Then podcast a body parts, get severed and served Bring your weak shit, wear the wolf and owler That ain't just a mistake, that's an awful howler Both of them are known to pull up at your shows Have the crowd witnessing the murder like they're rolling with a gang of crows Fuck their censorship, let them see the whole thing They stay dressed to kill, never sheep's clothing Dark enough to turn the sun to the moon, you'll see nothing All you hear's a huff and puff and a...
Starting point is 00:00:35 Expect killings, red spilling and flesh ripping Impressive innit, the death bringing its head spinning Just kidding, every word in this song's about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog. Oh My goodness Wow, you got a different energy you got a different you just got a different swag about you. Yes different crib Yeah, cuz you're in the castle, right? Yeah What are you calling? Davis
Starting point is 00:01:10 Mace Actually, maybe I should get the wolf and our listeners to sort of come up with names for my house. That's a great idea Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, shea douche No, sir, is that your suggestion? Oh So is that your suggestion? Don't explain the fucking joke to I get it You do some trouble sometimes I think that my jokes go over your head and then you get them about my you said No, can I tell you exactly what happened? I got confused because you went
Starting point is 00:01:35 Somebody on Instagram and then you went show no. No, so someone in it knows on tik tok I think said the conversation we had about my house should have been a private conversation knows on TikTok, I think said the conversation we had about my house should have been a private conversation. Rather than us talk about it, which I actually think these are these are the only one. Is that is that everything they said? What was it? What did they make? I think it's interesting enough for public discourse. No, no, I think it was something they thought it was a bit
Starting point is 00:02:00 sort of showy off. I think. Oh, okay. I thought it was more of a roast. I was Yeah, it was a bit of a roast. I mean, I guess what I'd say to that person is go fuck yourself. Also, they were only looking at a TikTok clip, which is, yeah. If you're just looking at it. Let's not get, we talk about TikTok too much, but it's brutal out there, man. TikTok is vicious. It's a barren wasteland of fucking dickheads just having a go at everyone.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I've just been in Latvia for three days. My only friend was TikTok. I think this is something for a private conversation to finish with your time. Really better picking it up, Latvia. May I say, by the way, that the Latvvians maybe some of that I wouldn't say that they're blessed with being so nervous about what you're about to say every interaction I had with a Latvian person was was not I wouldn't say I walked away from Latvia thinking oh wow that was a really that person was a person stood
Starting point is 00:02:59 out as you know that's that's where he was a Latvian I met a Tibetan monk what point are you going to say something here? Right, okay. It's like 12 attempted launches at saying something here. I still don't know what you're going to say about that. I found them to be quite rude and quite aggressive people. They were, every interaction, and I'm quite a friendly chap. By the time I got on the plane home, I was like, get me out of here. It felt like three days.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Makes sense, it's a good time to think that. Um. Um. How were they, first of all, how many Latvians did you interact with? 25 to 30, I'd say, over the three. Okay, in what context? You were filming something, but like, were these,
Starting point is 00:03:38 were the Latvians working on that? Yeah, from people who worked at the hotel, to people in the street when I was asking for directions To people in shops Yeah, just people in general The battery the people who worked on the film were very lovely But yeah, that was yeah, it was just people I they've could probably got a lot on their mind because there's a sort of
Starting point is 00:04:01 Sort of mild threat of war that sort of lurking over their shoulders. I was sort of, I had that in mind as well, I was like maybe they're readying themselves for war so they're sort of just not being nice. You didn't say that to anybody did you? You didn't say, I didn't say, oh yeah you're being a prick. No but I don't want you to go in there and go, I just, a quick one mate, you're quite rude to me when you gave me that coffee there but I'm assuming it's because you're worried about sort of the imminent threat of annihilation. So your manners have completely deserted you. Yeah Whenever you say things like this because we you did get us into trouble And I say us I distance myself from your comments quite
Starting point is 00:04:39 aggressively when you started talking about Germans, right? Yeah, you commented on Germans. And again, I'll sort of roll out the arguments regarding your opinion of Latvians, is that different people consider different things to be, there are different tones in different countries, right? And what you might perceive to be rude
Starting point is 00:05:02 is actually polite, right? And there's a certain, you know different different population, you know Different cultures conduct themselves in a different way, you know, that's a possible argument Well, can I put it on a throw this into the mix right? So the guy who's driving me around when I was out there was a Ukrainian guy lovely guy right he the first thing he said when I got in a car we chatted over a bit of a conversation and I Said how is it out here and you're how the people and he went
Starting point is 00:05:34 Yes, not great people Yeah, and by the way, I had quite long chats with this guy he was lovely I mean all that tells me is that you also get racist cabbies abroad. I mean You got into a car and the driver made a Generalization about the people of Latvia and you took that as gospel but can I just say something if Everybody who arrived in this country got into a cab and took what the fucking driver was saying as gospel We'd be in deep shit. All right, well, we are
Starting point is 00:06:12 I've had cabbies be racist before realizing that I wasn't white right now So no, no, he was number one. He was here He it was quite she said actually always says because we're filming and back in the Ukraine. He'd been a um Being a cameraman and then he was just a unit drive. He was a unit driver now He actually had quite a long conversation with him about Having left the Ukraine and you know everything He was family before and it was yeah, you know, this is like I feel like I'm on the fucking one show with this gear change, it was quite a light story
Starting point is 00:06:50 I had quite we had conversation. I think I actually said not to give his name if I'm honest No, I like I feel bad giving it just good. What do you say? Okay, don't give his name But do you know you're saying that? Yeah, I know his name Okay, yeah, and when he said he asked not to give his name. Is that because well, how could he? Have you since the podcasts? Genuinely, he said I should check it. He said he said I should check it. He wants to come to England He's sorry. He wants to learn more about England alone. Yeah, okay. He's a lovely guy to be around. No, I'm sure he was I'm not denying He was yeah, I feel bad if I give his name and then I don't give his name I don't give his name. This is what's hilarious is you I know what you're doing
Starting point is 00:07:33 You're trying to trip me up like I don't know. No, no, can I tell you what because normally like Whenever you if somebody gives you sort of a slightly larger than normal pizza, you give him a shout out by name So this guy told you But this guy's life is a bit different. I have to be respectful of that. He's scenario slightly Yeah, what he's been for is slightly different Yeah, but he was saying he was very very thankful for Latvia for the fact that he was living there and he was you know He said that he'd found it quite hard to he was very gregarious. He had quite a good sense of humor as well Mmm, I'd say we had some we had some black laughs some laughs yeah you know the best thing that happened to me out
Starting point is 00:08:09 there um i met a tibetan monk in the gym who showed me some stretches oh that was nice did he talk to you about uh life at all no no because he didn't talk great English, but I he was he was doing um some stretches I was doing some weight so I sort of saw how do you know who's Tibetan? Sort of like Just because of the clothes he wore on the way he can't conduct himself. I don't say for the story Yeah, I like to think yeah and also from like the last two months in films. He looked like a bit of a feel from like, the last time I saw a Tibetan monk in a film, he looked like a Tibetan monk from a film. But if you Google Tibetan monk, that's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I was just like, I wanted to get, look, I mean, and you'll know that this is- I mean, what are we? What are we? Eight minutes in, there's generalizations flying all over the shop here. Latvians are rude, Ukrainians are really nice, and Tibetan monks are wonderful.
Starting point is 00:09:09 But I wanted to get a picture of it know, you can tell when you got to better monkey front of you They look like one You know, it's great. He didn't want to get a selfie that was really upsetting So I thought whatever chance will I ever get to get a picture of me and a Tibetan monk? Who just done yoga together? He didn't want to get a selfie with you. So did you ask him for a selfie? Yeah He went no no no, you still think it's too bad He was a friend out there he said it yeah. Yeah, because I think isn't there Hey, I don't hundred percent know this but aren't isn't there a belief sometimes that photos
Starting point is 00:09:44 I don't 100% know this but aren't isn't there a belief sometimes that photos Let me look this up the We're looking at everything about him. I observed him from afar before yeah I just you know integrated it myself in his copy like I'm in a conversation and into his yoga practice Yeah, everything he did right was like immaculate. So he turns up he's got a sort of gown or whatever it is like you know the sort of schmuck straight dress that he wears on right which I quite like I thought that is quite cool like relaxed look right yeah he's got some leggings underneath it or jeggings all right I don't
Starting point is 00:10:19 think it's wearing jeggings was it? Do you know what jeggings are? Yeah I do yeah he's got no shoes on. It's just barefoot, right? Okay. So he comes in and he's like, he's sort of like, I couldn't see his hands, like they're sort of all huddled up under his smock. And then he pulls this out of it, he pulls this really tiny, tiny sort of like, little sort of parcel almost. Then he starts folding it out and out and out and it's like becomes like this lovely looking yoga mat that sort of parcel almost they start folding it out and out and out and it's like becomes like this lovely looking yoga
Starting point is 00:10:45 Matt that sort of looks like it's probably homemade And then he sort of starts there. He What are you doing? This is happening. You just stood what's watching him. Well, I was doing some weights as well I just sort of watching him but you know the thing to read your magic he started doing thing where he was like like belching really like he was He started doing a thing where he was belching really. He was attacking his, through yoga, his breathing. And he'd just do this breathing exercise, and he'd go, brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr The burps were like onslaught from keeping up appearances, right? I was like, fucking hell, or Barney from The Simpsons.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Exactly like Barney from The Simpsons. I'm like, this guy... Either he's out being out in the piss last night, or this is something he's certainly good about. So then he started showing me some breathing techniques where you can get your... You can basically get rid of air out of you and then you just do big burps. So at the end of it, it's quite... Yeah, yeah. You basically sort of come and then you just do big burps. So the end you do it quite. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 00:11:49 Mmm, you basically sort of come so you come down so you and as you breathe out you come up And it's released. It's hard when you're sitting because you've got to let everything up and you just massive and it makes you burp Yeah, one of my favorite things is push up all of your air it out of you and it comes out like a burp It's not really a burp I mean it like I say by the way all of this is done with sign language gentle gestures There's no like conversations. He doesn't speak English. I don't speak to bad. All right But there was a lot of laughter as well, which was nice. Yeah Well, he lost quite a lot of that my tips at yoga But also I sort of made sure that I laughed back at him when he sort of was doing stuff as well, so he felt like at ease
Starting point is 00:12:30 in my company. I actually think that I'd make quite a sweet short film. Oh, actually, would you? Yeah. Yeah. You know. It would be quite, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I think it would open with somebody sort of making a sweeping generalization about 1.9 million people based on having met five of them goes into the gym to sort of Sort of break away from from all of that kind of hatred that's been brewing up inside of him This Tibetan monk shows him first. We walked in he goes fucking out to better monk Already is is his backs up. Mate, how could anyone hate a Tibetan monk? They're like the goodest people on earth, right? They're good, solid human beings.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Monks are very chilled, aren't they? I spent some time with a Tibetan monk recently. This is, I knew that you would have, yeah. Yeah. Did he chat? Was he conversational? Yeah, cuz he was The
Starting point is 00:13:29 Basically, this is in the show that I show that I've done that's coming out soon So I don't want to go into too much detail But was he like the front man like the salesman for them? No, he wasn't but what what he'd done is he'd become a monk off the back of Making a lot of money and deciding that it was still filling him leaving empty. So he walked away from it all and became a monk. So he had this kind of, he was able to sort of understand what the temptations are of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:55 kind of material trappings and stuff like that. I'm going to say something quite radical here. He permanently changed my outlook on life. And I spent a day with him. Yeah. Yeah, he did. I genuinely think differently about life having spent time with him than I did beforehand.
Starting point is 00:14:16 That's insane. I literally spent half an hour with this guy. I wouldn't say that. I've learned that to burp. He hasn't changed. Although I did look at the little ways that he moved and stuff, and then I was observing him as I saw him in the hotel lobby sort of later that day
Starting point is 00:14:32 and just watched him from afar. Yeah. I don't know what he was doing there, whether he was on sort of a... Do you think that possibly might have creeped him out? I mean, you've already watched him in the gym, and then he's sort of showing you some stretches, thinking hopefully this will bring this to an end.
Starting point is 00:14:46 This guy's sort of watching me burp and laughing, so if I show him how to do it, maybe he'll occupy himself. Sort of like a really smart bear. And then he goes off to sort of get on with the rest of his day. Everywhere he's going in this hotel, just sort of sees his head poke out from behind. You know what I loved about him?
Starting point is 00:15:03 Like one of the things that I've never got to do. He wasn't Latvian?. Like one of the things that I Love my spam in it cuz laughing that the Latvians aren't like that. Yeah, there's no there was no greeting as you walked into the hotel It's like, you know, there was no sort of hello mate. How are you? Hello, sir. Welcome Everyone they came to contact with who are you expecting that from in the hotel the receptionist when you got to reception go hello. Welcome to Riga That's what I expect Don't do that in the UK they say do if you turn up our hotel so welcome No, I'm not some places they do are you telling me if you rock up to fucking a travel lodge, they're gonna go, hello.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Now, well, this is how rich you are. There's not usually a person at a travel lodge now. You usually just fucking sign in without any, there's no human interaction at all now. So there's not even a person there. Yeah, but there might as well not have been a person there. God knows what your report would be on Latvia had there not been a person there. Well, I wouldn't have had a balloon.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Fucking Latvians haven't even got someone on fucking reception when he turned up in a hotel. Well, my point is, you saw this sweet Tabeca monk, right, in his sandals and his smock, and he's just walking around to everyone. He comes into it, like even if it's someone walking past, he goes like that. He puts his hands together and bows. Right? No one, apart from me, when I walked past him, I did the same thing, right? Incredibly weird to do it if you're not of the same sort of
Starting point is 00:16:32 religion. Really? It's actually really disrespectful. I thought it was like shaking hands. You might as well have pulled his leg up and spacked him on the bottom. No, yeah. Are you joking? No, I'm joking.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Is that rude to you? No, I'm joking. Is that rude to you? No, I'm joking. I actually started thinking that's, I'd like to do that more to people, that'd be a nice gesture. That little namaste kind of... Yeah, I think it's a really nice thing. Yeah, it is nice. I like it. Yeah, I think it's a really nice thing. Yeah, it is nice. I like it Yeah, it's a friendly thing. What is it you've taken away from your? That's a better monk that you met. What what is the thing that's a lesson? What do I don't know if this is too like this is too heavy to get into on this podcast
Starting point is 00:17:17 We normally talk about like how we don't like ethnic groups. But anyway, I was reading a book called which I would thoroughly recommend called the The Courage to be Disliked, which is, it's like the whole book is framed as a conversation between a student and an older monk. And it's sort of like a book, it's a book about philosophy, basically. So I was reading this book when I met this guy. Yeah, and But okay, look we're gonna go into more detail in the show, but I'll tell you I'll tell you one of the things Give us a skinny Basically, and this sounds like this doesn't sound like an answer to okay, but basically he
Starting point is 00:18:10 It's but his attitude towards life was that he is always content, right? And he's like, whatever situation we're filming with him, whatever situation or scenario, like he was describing some hardships or whatever, he has now got himself to the point where he's always content. And I asked him how he does that. And this is, it's as complicated and as simple, I know there's a contrast in this, but it is as difficult or as easy as this. He said, I choose to be, right?
Starting point is 00:18:32 So regardless of his circumstances, he chooses to be content and accept the situation as it is, right? Now actually most of your anxiety and, and by the way, I know this is very difficult to do and I haven't managed it completely since I spoke to him, but he has changed my outlook, is that most of your anxiety and worry about things is avoidable. Do you know what I mean? Most of your getting upset about things is avoidable. A lot of stuff you get upset about is things that are nothing to do with you.
Starting point is 00:19:07 You know, you get upset about what other people are doing. A lot of things that you get upset about are like you've looked for it. You know, like say for example, we had to, you know, if you're in an uncomfortable situation, you can either choose to look at the things in that situation that you're grateful for
Starting point is 00:19:23 or that are comforting, or you can choose to look at the things in that situation that you're grateful for or the comforting or you can choose to look for the things in that situation that make you feel annoyed and So two people are not in identical situations can have completely different reactions that that's kind of the gist of it But I'm sorry, and I do think that yeah makes sense I will say that like what makes you really funny is when you get irritable and annoyed by things I mean as I was if you come okay is when you get irritable and annoyed by things. I know, I know. I mean as I was... If you become a content human being, look I'm very blessed and I realize I'm blessed and I'm
Starting point is 00:19:51 very happy with my lot for the most part but things still grind my gears, things still annoy me. Well I'm not going to lie to you Tom, as he sort of explains to me the concept of contentment, I did start thinking to myself, if I really subscribe to this, my career might be over. But the good, you know, it's like, what are we going to do? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but I think actors can do that, and musicians can do that.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I think stand-ups, I think it would be a struggle to. Well, we'll see. If you went on stage and were like, we're going to see now. You know what I'm really, really happy about and really blessed for is... Yeah. Have you ever noticed when you go to the park and they've got dog shit bins everywhere,
Starting point is 00:20:34 it's great that they do that, isn't it? Really convenient if you're a dog owner. No one ever fucking empties them, mate. What about that? Well, you know, you've got to look at it from the point of view of these guys that are running the parks and working with limited resources and those resources are dwindling. If anything, I'd be going up to them saying, look, thank you for doing what you do on such a shoestring budget.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Maybe, though, if I'd been more like you in Latvia, that would have been a more conducive year. No, all I'm saying is that one of the things that I've realized, not one of the things I've realized, one of the things I think sometimes just different countries have different mannerisms. It doesn't mean that doesn't necessarily mean they're less polite, does it? It just means, you know, that's how they conduct themselves. I've traveled over a lot of Eastern Europe and I would say that there's a different tact in different places I just said that my experience in Latvia was yeah
Starting point is 00:21:29 You realize yeah, you've come you've come onto a podcast. That's for public consumption and written off the entire country No, I've said I didn't I said in my in my experience the people I came into interaction with it's whether either They hate tall people, or everyone I met was just having a fucking rough old day. But literally it was, yeah. Like I saw someone in the street and said, do you know where the shopping center, Galleria Riga is?
Starting point is 00:22:00 And he literally looked like had turned up and said, oh, your wife looks like a dog. He looked so angry. And he just sort of, turned up and said, oh, your wife looks like a dog. He looked so angry. And he just sort of, bullishly just walked off. Oh, did he not show you? No, he just shook his head and walked off. I'm saying like, everyone I- I'm not gonna lie to you, Tom.
Starting point is 00:22:15 That's a bad experience. Yeah, and then I get to the gallery. I'm sort of walking around whistling and sort of, you know, I go into a shop and some- Not ideal behavior for a gallery, but anyway, go on. I'm like, no, no, it's like a shopping centre, it's not a gallery, actually. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Art gallery, fucking hell, I'm not going to an art gallery in Riga. I would, that's something, do you know? How in the world do you know me? No, I'd be like, do you know, do you know? Where's John Davis? I was down at the fucking gallery, having a look around. No, you're right.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I think there's only eight. It's much more in character if you had to go shopping in Latvia, you're right. What a dickhead. What did you pick up? Mate, I grew up five minutes from the fucking Tate I've never been in my life, so. That's a good point. Anyway, go on, so what'd you do?
Starting point is 00:22:55 And then I walked into a shop and I sort of was smiling and sort of, you know when you go to a shop in another country and you pick stuff up and it's just like you really like it and sort of smile over. No, no, let me just stop you there. What? What?
Starting point is 00:23:10 Not only do I not know that, I would go as far as to say I have never ever done that. Gesture to a thing like you really like it. What the fuck are you talking about? So like you're walking around and you see some gloves, right, because it's cold, I didn't take any gloves. gloves you look at the gloves look at the shop steward and go hmm why you point your thumb up why to signal there are nice pair of gloves that well you've got some nice stock here I shall look further around your store sir okay
Starting point is 00:23:39 all right yeah what are you not worried that that makes you then look like you're gonna buy those gloves even if you don't want to later on Well, look is it a rude miss? I didn't buy the gloves if the person had gone. Oh, you like the gloves. I've gone Yeah, yeah, have you got a lot of being had spoken English you would have made a purchase What did they actually what did they actually do? Right you're me you do the gesture the gloves in the smile. Okay, so I'm picking up the gloves now. Yeah Is that really what happens so they just yeah, I swear there was just no I made some noises to assist with the audio Naturally this podcast you did a silent mime They looked at a phone and texted something.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Right, okay. Like there's a big dungus in the fucking store looking at gloves. So did you feel a bit embarrassed, like a bit egg on the face? No, I did it to four different other things to see if he just hadn't got what was going on and every time it was just... I would suggest that it's you that's not got what's going on there in that situation. Yeah, but it's like I wanted to sort of have some sort of interaction. Right, why?
Starting point is 00:24:49 I don't know, because I was lonely in a way I guess. And you were looking for solace. And also I want to find nice people in the place. If I'm honest with you, I actually enjoy coming back from somewhere and finding the good in things. You did meet a nice guy. You met the driver and you met the monk yeah and it's yeah but I wanted to enjoy Latvia it's actually
Starting point is 00:25:08 really pretty city Vega it's a really pretty city yeah and it was snowing and you're like you know I don't know I wanted to come back feeling I wanted to go I like I'd like to leave somewhere thinking I can't wait to go back at some point in my life yeah but I'm actually I can't wait to have you back. So fingers crossed some of them listen to this podcast. Did you meet any nice Latvians? Like on set, there was some nice Latvians who were on set. I think it was around the hotel and in the shopping district. It was sort of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And also, I will say this is something I really talked about dog poo. No dog poo on the streets. I saw like five people picking up dog poo. Whereas if you walk through something I really talked about dog poo no dope on the streets I saw like five people picking up the book. It's good if you walk through London now, there's dope everywhere Yeah, and then we all like to throw it and pick it up Yeah, yeah I'll give that I'll give that I'll tell you what I'll give them that and their chocolates and candy was fucking sublime They don't have they have like really different their own candies and chocolates Wow
Starting point is 00:26:06 Really They don't have they have like really different their own candies and chocolates. Wow. Really? Holy shit. I went out looking for like a twix or a line bark and find one had to have one of their own sort of Latvian version. That's good. I think that's good. It's delicious. Holy shit. Yeah, yeah. Well, that sounds great. Sounds like a great trip. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing, man.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I went to the cinema twice at the weekend. Nice. What did you go and see? What did you go and watch? I went to the cinema twice at the weekend. Nice. What did you go and see? What did you go and watch?
Starting point is 00:26:58 I went to the cinema twice at the weekend. Nice. What did you go and see? What did you go and watch? I went to the cinema twice at the weekend. Nice. What did you go and see? What did you go and man. I went to the cinema twice at the weekend. Nice, well, what did you go and see?
Starting point is 00:27:08 What did you go and watch? I went with the family. Nice. Saturday, we went to watch Dog Man. Oh man, I've heard amazing things of Dog Man. Yeah, and then on the Sunday, went to watch. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's that mean?
Starting point is 00:27:24 You didn't enjoy Dog Man? Oh, Dog Man. Okay, well, look, I'll talk about Dog Man. Great film. Ricky Gervais is in it. Shout out Ricky, wow. I really did find myself thinking... You watch Bluey, right? With Little Jack? Yeah, I love Bluey. I do. Well, I mean, I was watching Dog Man. There's loads to it. And it is is It does not settle on any image for more than about half a second. All right, like it's so Quick the pace of it in terms of like It's all over the place man. Like it's so wild and like obviously like I went with them
Starting point is 00:28:00 I'm with Charlie and Alex their fans that they've read all the books and everything Captain Underpants or whatever and so They're like totally in The origin story of dog man. I can't believe people don't have a problem with it. Okay, so I'll just Spoiler alert if you haven't seen dog man. I just want to talk about how absolutely I just want to talk about how absolutely horrendous his origin story is right He's half my he was a man who became a dog. Well, he's your half man I'm just a song and I'd love to get your reaction to this. All right It's a police officer and his dog, right? Yeah chasing Petey
Starting point is 00:28:38 The cat is like the most evil cat in the world Okay, who plays peace? Who's Ricky in the film? Peter? No, he places evil fish so so in the world. Who plays Ricky in the film, Peter? No, he plays this evil fish. So they get into an accident or a bomb goes off, it cuts to hospital and the police officer, his head has been, I mean they do it in a very sort of safe way, but his head is of no use anymore, but his body's okay and the dog His body's of no use anymore, but his head's okay So they go let's combine the two of them and they put the dog's head Onto the officer's body and then they go if combined them. I'm sorry. You haven't combined them a man's dead right, like
Starting point is 00:29:23 You've you've stitched the dog's head onto his body. And then they go to that. And then they get one part of it. They go, Oh, that copy is really physically good, but he's a bit stupid. And then they go, but the dog is really smart. If only he had the and then they go, we combine his abilities. The guy's dead. Like, because he was a guy married or single. He had a girlfriend who left, by the way. She didn't want to be with a dog. You don't see the breakup.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Dogman goes to the house and she's gone. What? Jesus, this is a... I was going to say, is it OK for grace? It's all delivered very light, I'm going to tell you that. But this is what I... They go, now we've got the best of both worlds. I mean, I'm sort of How do you feel when you watch like wrong?
Starting point is 00:30:09 Robocop Robocop Like when you watch that, I mean he's fucking he gets the best of both worlds. He's like a man still but also He's a robot. No, he doesn't get the best of both worlds. Does he? He's got a baby Directives or whatever serve the the public trust, uphold the law or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yeah. So, but he's not, he's dead. That guy's like Dogman and Robocop actually, very similar. Except the whole thing about Robocop is he acquires some humanity at the end of it. Dogman, at the end of the film, he's just Dogman. So he doesn't become any like- I repeat, a man has died, yeah? And then they're going, right? But also, like, yeah, a man and his dog could have died, but they've actually sort of gone,
Starting point is 00:30:52 look, we could actually make this work. Do they not have a funeral for him? Sorry, Tom, let me just put this in a little bit of context. If I was driving with Reggie, and we got into a car accident, and Lisa was at home, and they said, we've got a car accident and Lisa was at home and they said, we've got a bit of bad news and a bit of good news, we could have lost both of them. As it is, we've stitched Reggie's head onto Romesh's body.
Starting point is 00:31:16 You know what would be funnier? If they stitched your head onto Reggie's body. Oh, I'd like to fucking get that Tibetan fucking vibe and feel content then. Literally. How's that content stuff working out for you, son? Oh, fuck off. I'm a dog, mate. Look, in all seriousness, if I'm taking what that monk said seriously, I think you'd be...
Starting point is 00:31:41 Look, and I know that's... I think in truth, there'd be a bit of an adjustment period. But after a while, I think I'd sort look and I know that's I think in truth. They'd be they'd be a bit of an adjustment period But after a while, I think I sort of you know, you sort of yeah I think you'd be a figure actually that I actually generally think you would be quite content Yeah, you wouldn't have to work as hard because you get laughs straight away as soon as you walked onto stage Just because you're imagine fucking a lit my Ever done stand-up as a dog. You've got a whole world. Holy shit, mate You would have everybody in that department. Well, I'd be in that the palm of their house. I'm a fucking dog
Starting point is 00:32:13 Right, you got a pool. Lisa pick up the shit in the garden You are still you you could just use the toilet You got all poo in your bum hair again Can you come and clean my shit Anyway, that's all I thought about dog man, but it's a great film. Ricky's great, isn't it? Did you, uh, any standing ovation at the end? Any standing ovation? At the end of the film? Yeah, you know, the cinema went, yeah, I mean, I'm hearing Bridget Jones's story is getting standing ovations at the end.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Who is that for? I think it's for just everyone signaling it together that we've been through something incredible and what an amazing moment. Can I just say this? I don't understand a standing ovation at the cinema. If the makers of the film were in the room, yes, standing ovation. If you're giving a standing ovation, why? You know what I think it is? I think it's when something's truly touched and brilliant as you, right? And you then find like you can't contain it in just a clap. It needs more and you stand and you let it all out.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I was fucking in the midst of one. Two times I've been in the midst of them, right? A Star is Born, told that story on here before. Absolutely couldn't contain how amazing I thought. And when Lady Gaga sang at the end, I was like fucking there for it. And- So did you stand up and applaud?
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah, I was one of the first people up, if not the first, right? Other people around me. Where were you? I don't think you have told this story. Where were you? Well, yeah, because it was a time when a guy touched my arm when Bradley Cooper died.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And at the end of the film, like I literally like just got up and was like, wow. I was touched by it and other people stood up and sort of some were clapping and some were sort of getting coats and stuff. But it was, yeah. How other people stood up and some were clapping some were sort of getting coats and stuff But it was yeah, how many people stood up with it? It's full cinema. I reckon there's probably 12 of us of haters Okay, I reckon yeah We're in a separate section
Starting point is 00:34:19 No, no, no, no, no, you're in amongst the normal amongst the rest of the people. What's in? What's in them? What cinema was this? Do I have to... Where did we watch that? Oh, we watched that in town, that one. I thought it might have been Crawley, because we used to go to Crawley cinema a lot. I know it looked like, in America, when we spent some time in LA, they would applaud at the end of the film.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yeah, I think that's like the done thing, right? And also, in America, audiences are just much more vocal and responsive, aren't they? You know, like... Yeah. They're actually... I can't think of the number of times I've actually heard like a whole cinema, in the UK, laugh. Oh, mate, you know, one of the best I've ever experienced is it was a Jackass film, Bad
Starting point is 00:34:59 Grandpa. Oh, mate. Did you watch that in the UK? That was a riot. Well, people... Yeah, I think I watched that at Crawley, actuallyly actually it was a riot mate. You should have been there It's fucking banging and was laughing. It was just a really good Relax relax a little bit. It's not one of the great nights in history
Starting point is 00:35:17 It's fucking it's such a funny movie that yeah, it is Yeah, have you seen it? Yeah, I've seen it. You should watch that with the boys. They'd love it. Why are you talking to me like you're a member of some exclusive club that I've got no access to? No, but I've seen it. The film, Bad Grandpa. Yeah, but you're talking to me like
Starting point is 00:35:38 you're part of some sort of elite society that's watched Bad Grandpa at the cinema in Crawley. Mate, that night was fucking incredible. I felt like we all shared something that night, everyone who was in the room. It's very rare you get that experience in the UK, isn't it? In America, in fact I went to watch... What's the other film you saw this weekend, sorry? I went to watch... this is the other thing I was going to say actually, I went to watch Captain America 4, Brave world any good. It's it's
Starting point is 00:36:08 Okay. Well, this one I say it's the reviews have not been great. Okay, right Marvel, you know See, I'm just gonna say this and I know you could kiss me. I'm mad. I don't think Marvel has really Really hit the heights since Endgame. Right? It's not, you know, there's been some little, it's been fits and spurts, right? So Captain America 4, I've read mixed reviews.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I went into that film with very low expectations, right? And I had a good time, which made me think, part of what's fueled that is I went in with low expectations. And now I'm starting to think you could enhance your film-watching experience if you only sort out really bad reviews of something. Maybe. What I mean is like, you know, like sometimes... Is this an odd to your contentment sort of thing,
Starting point is 00:37:02 that you're going in expecting the worst and then anything better than the worst is. Yes, it's not first of all You seem to really be aggrieved to this contentment thing that I've posited I realize it because I don't think it's I think yeah, I think that it's good that you have that little thing in you I don't enjoy the cynical fucking annoyed from it. I am favorite Romesh. Have I not look have I not been cynical? Oh, yeah, you'd be very cynical. I'm taking annoyed Romesh, my favourite Romesh. Have I not been cynical on this one? Oh yeah, you've been very cynical. I'm much enjoying it.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I'm hoping that this sort of... The difference is, is that that cynicism is laced with an inner warmth and gratitude for everything that life gives us, you know? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You remind me a lot of another comedian whose name I will not mention. Yeah, well listen, let's not mention him. But I am, in separate news, I'm starting up a bit of a YouTube thing. And I'm doing some sort of baptisms and stuff like that. And I'm also selling a forehead stone, which does actually protect you from Wi-Fi and 5G.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Even though you are doing your podcast and your YouTube channel over Wi-Fi. So Captain America, haven't they done four movies? So, Captain America, they've done four movies. The gratitude for their... I sort of said that to piss you off. But yeah, there's been four of them, yeah. But this is the first Captain America... Is it the first...
Starting point is 00:38:38 This is the new... It's the new Captain America, right? Who is it now? Anthony Mackie. Sam Wilson. Any good? Yeah, I mean he's completely different I mean you want to get into the details of it different between the previous Captain America's captain Steve Rogers took the super serum, right? Yes. He had super strength. They had the shield and super strength
Starting point is 00:38:57 He was like a real and then he handed the shield I think To the new Captain America who doesn't have super strength He was given the option to take the strength serum and he didn't so he represents a different thing In fact his friend Bucky partway through the film says that to him He said, you know like Steve Rogers gave people someone to look up to whereas you give them your he was an inspiration You're you know, you're you give them someone to aspire to you know know because he's a normal dude. It's quite deep Well Harrison forwards is isn't it? Who is he playing like the old Captain America? No, he plays the president of the United States of America. Oh fuck. Well, yeah
Starting point is 00:39:39 You're not gonna watch this for my I mean you happy for me to give it a good spoiler shit I mean, yeah, I mean, I think everybody knows it's a spoiler is Harrison Ford plays the president of the United States who becomes the Red Hulk. Oh Wow. Mm-hmm Can I ask you question can I ask you question about with regards to people at Harrison Ford? When you watch a film with Harrison Ford in it Or anybody like that. Are you expecting a good performance from them? Yeah, because you know what,
Starting point is 00:40:07 I think someone like Harrison Ford being saying, you know, like when you go to a supermarket and you see like a sticker sort of like on a bit of fruit, it sort of symbols that it's a good bit of fruit. Yeah. That's what I think Harrison Ford brings. When you see a sticker that symbolizes a good bit of fruit.
Starting point is 00:40:21 You know, they've got the classy little stickers on, like sort of, yeah. They've all got stickers on them, don't they, most of stickers on them. No, no, no, not all of them. No, no, not the old potatoes and the old apples that are down the bottom of the barrel. No, no, that's true, because they're in there loose. They've got time. There's a lot of labour to individually sticker those. So yeah, Harrison Ford is like, for me, yeah. Tell me this, when you come across a fruit that's got a sticker in it, what will you do? Will you hold it up and show it to member of staff at Sainsbury's and go, huh?
Starting point is 00:40:48 Do you do that? Do it to Catherine. She's there with me at the time. What does she do? I imagine she's got the same reaction as a Latvian shopkeeper. Yeah, I mean, sometimes it depends on what mood she's in. Sometimes she sort of humours me by going, well done, yeah, put it in the basket. And other times she just completely just pretends I'm with someone else. I think Harrison Ford is yeah he's got a class to him isn't he? He also by the way is one of those people who can just be Harrison Ford in everything and be
Starting point is 00:41:17 amazing. Yeah that is true. I think that Harrison Ford I think this is as far from a passion project as Harrison Ford gets. Really? Yeah. You're basically letting Harrison Ford stick. You watch Indiana Jones, Harrison Ford looks like, he's got so much charisma by the way. Han Solo, Indiana Jones, what's the fucking film we did with Brad Pitt, where he plays the American, the special agent. I haven't seen it for years, brilliant film.
Starting point is 00:41:48 He basically has got like fucking four or five big roles that he's played and he's essentially just doing, he's got so much charisma. Yeah, he has. I mean, he's got a gravitas. He can just literally. You also put that on him because you've seen him in so much stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:42:03 Yeah. What I'm saying is like, some of his performance, some of your enjoyment of his performance is because of all the stuff you've seen him in before, right? There's a level of... Do you know the best film Harrison Ford's ever done? Gone. Witness. I don't think I've seen that, Witness.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Oh my God, it's incredible. Really? It's one of the best films ever made. He is fucking incredible. One of the best films ever made? Witnesses, yeah. Okay. But the part I'm trying to make is, I went into
Starting point is 00:42:28 Red Hole, not Red Hole, I went into Captain America 4 thinking like Harrison Ford has probably done this for the money and I respect that. You know, like he's done enough. Do you mean Harrison Ford is giving us enough great moments for me to just go? Do you know what get your money? You know? He's also probably wants to be he does the idea of being in a Marvel movie Yeah, that is also true. I mean to be fair. He's got fucking three massive franchises in which he's a leading so He's probably not that worried actually. Yeah. You big Indiana Jones fan? I fucking love Indiana Jones. The first three, obviously. The later ones, not as much.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Ooh. Yeah. Shades. Absolutely. I was in bits when he fucking died in Star Wars. Were you? Yeah. I fucking love him.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I think he's Han Solo. Every kid of our generation wanted to be hands solo Who did you who are you? I used to have to be Chewbacca when we played Star Wars at school. Who did you have to be? You were Luke Skywalker tendencies, you know, why are you saying that? Why? And what you've got hand solo tenses have no no no, I haven't I'm Chewbacca all day long I don't fucking place in my dreams. I am since Essentially, I am true, but my whole life has been being chewbacker
Starting point is 00:43:54 Is like a really highly respected warrior, you know that right? I mean he's Yeah, but no one listens to him. He's not because I don't understand wookie, but like actually he's a really smart guy He's just a bit misunderstood Yeah, like me. I imagine if there was a nation full of him, you'd go over there and come back and talk about how rude they are. Hey, I've just... Talk about Ewoks. I've just given you the biggest fucking...
Starting point is 00:44:17 He actually, by the way, he is like me, because when he goes to that bar in the first one, he looks like he doesn't want to be there. Luke Skywalker, everybody knows, Luke Skywalker is like the most vanilla character in the whole goddamn franchise. He's not, he's not. He's just content with his lot, he's content with who he is. Anyway, Luke Skywalker, rubbish Ranganathan is Luke Skywalker. Oh come on, don't let me on the Millennium Falcon. I like the right laugh, mate. Oh, okay, this contentment thing's overrated. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Now, do you remember last week we did some, oh, a couple of things actually. First of all, we need to do some more emails at some point. Yeah. But the second thing is, we've had a lot of estate agents get in touch. agents. Oh by the way I need to actually say something. The estate agents who have dealt with the side of my late this house have been they have actually turned out to well at the moment they've turned out to be very decent people. I don't understand
Starting point is 00:45:17 because because. No the people who are involved with selling a property are vile. They are literally some of the They've been quite rude and and I actually feel like saying the name of that company, but I won't But I need to get Sam and David and the people have been involved in the sale of in the buying of this house I've actually been pretty decent. So I should say that Well, we've had a lot of estate agents get in touch and say I'm really decent yeah and you know if you're out there it's just a shame I've never like at a moment the ones who are dealing like Catherine was in tears the other day dealing with the people and selling to the property of like her aunt who
Starting point is 00:45:57 passed away and selling this one has been absolutely there's no compassion or empathy or anything showed it's been very it's not been a nice experience and in turn when we are we're at our last property we're for a similar thing so maybe I'll be general like the people like I say we've bought this house have been largely pretty decent but in my experience 95% of them and if there are nice ones out there shout you out good. I'm glad that there are Okay, very good Both me one second. So the other thing that we did is We did some moral dilemmas now. I've looked really enjoyed by the way. Well, I was wondering if you wanted to do one today
Starting point is 00:46:40 Yeah, I'd love to How did was a reaction to them last time? Yeah Yeah, people seemed to like them. I mean somebody said Straight after we did the podcast they had to go and explain to Lisa what we talked about. And luckily she was quite chilled out about it. Yeah, shout out Lisa for that by the way. Yeah, but it wasn't It wasn't, I didn't enjoy her. her. Well yeah she didn't want Josh and Dinesh objectifying it like that. So you're bringing it free to the next step are you? Now I'm trying to de-dark these things because it's like this is quite full on. All right. Okay oh god. Okay so you're involved. It's all about a man who dies and has a dog's head part of his body is it no
Starting point is 00:47:26 But it is about death So I'm gonna try and just change it off a bit You're involved in a two-car crash on your way to work one morning in which you accidentally knocked someone over As you get out of the car you're intercepted by a tearful woman who seems to think that she was the one that hit the pedestrian You're not sure why she thinks she hit the person, but she is convinced. There's only you, the woman and the person you hit on the road. There are no witnesses. You know, whoever's deemed responsible probably serves some jail time. What do you do? You take the blame then, all day long.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I know that you're saying that for the purposes of the public transport. No, no, I'm not. No, I'm not at all. I'm not. I will tell you now, if you don't stand up and take that blame, yeah, you might not go to prison, but you would be living in an internal mental prison for the rest of your life. If you're a rational, decent human being, you'd never ever get over that shit. It would always haunt you. It would always be there. Every night when you're in bed, you'd be thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And yeah, I don't think there's that. There's no way in the world that you could do that to someone. If you're a decent human being, you can look at someone and go, oh yeah, that was you, and push them. You'd have to take that fucking thing. Is there not part of you that thinks maybe it is her that hit the person? I mean, why does she do that? No, but you're changing it now. No, I'm not changing it. I'm just saying that. No, you've hit the purse. I mean like why does she know you but you're changing it now
Starting point is 00:48:46 I'm just saying no you've you've hit the person. You know, you've hit the person right? It's not ambiguous It could have been either. That's a whole different All right, I'll take these very seriously. Yeah Yeah, yeah, all right. So if I was if I'm standing there and it could be anyone who's standing next to me by the way All right. I'm saying it now Why say it's me and it's Allison Hammond. I compare for Allison hammer through that Dilling I just have to go to Allison. It wasn't you it was me I did that and she probably would know in the house and what decent person she would be should be sobbing crying
Starting point is 00:49:17 I'll be a head. Let's just walk over there. There's a cost of coffee. All right, grab ourselves a coffee Let's just fucking talk about this Can you beat this up? But imagine if it wasn't a tearful woman imagine if it was What would you do then? Well, that's a whole different thing fucking let me eat the shit And I'll probably go visit him every week in prison It was me I did it just getting the old me what that was. It was me. I did it. I just get in the old car buffed out because it was a little bit of damage when I hit that
Starting point is 00:49:51 guy. Yeah. Yeah. Hitting Jack Grealish like that took a real fucking swap out the side. Speaking of football, by the way, I think it might be, well, I've just got to say congratulations to you, Tom. Yeah, it's a hollow victory in a sense because it was the best we played in probably about five years.
Starting point is 00:50:13 I thought we looked amazing. Obviously it's a great win. I'm not one of these people by the way who, I'm not an Arsenal hater. My dad's an Arsenal hater. And also I kind of, it's now just nullified the rest of the season for everyone We kind of know who's going down. We know who's won it. It's very uninteresting for the rest of the season It's quite boring into the season. There's no Yeah, but you know, I just wanted to say on the podcast. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:50:39 I was very happy. I thought I was shout out. You're you're really happy. I love grandpa by the way. Mm-hmm He's I know people said this I've said this before But this that guy's had a glow up, right? I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He looks you don't come to West Ham I'm not fucking take your image. Seriously. He looks in my most glamorous clubs in Europe Yeah But he doesn't look, doesn't he? He does look good. He looks well. He looks nice. He looks nice in his training gear. You know how I love, by the way, I do love Jared Donah. I love Jared Bowe.
Starting point is 00:51:15 He's got a very humble, chilled fucking vibe to him. Fucking hell. What? No, nothing. It's just these things. It's one of my pet peeves with football fans, just sort of throwing out these little nicknames casually into conversation. You've obviously been on the Whatsapps or whatever, like, you know, with your little West Ham mates giving it all this shit and they're fraying into it. Right, I've been talking to his future father-in-law about him for quite some time.
Starting point is 00:51:42 We waxed lyrical about the Jared Oduck. You do it with Rice Rice, I remember you dancing around doing Rice Rice, baby. I've seen that definitely somewhere. No, on League of their own. Yeah. Yeah, before he joined Arsenal, he was still at West Ham. Yeah, but you'll see.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Some of your players have got nicknames. That kid you've got by the way, that's who you got sent off. Oh. No, I think Skelly man Skelly in some place. Yeah, I'm gonna be that young and knowing that you fucking got your life It's just gonna be great. You're fucking football You can't say that you don't bro. Come on those two are fucking sick Mate they are fucking unreal. They are unreal That's like you and Beckett when you first realize first. So you've stood doing stand-up I was like these two have got it. They've smashing it. They've got it now
Starting point is 00:52:28 There's some you see you go maybe maybe not you to get those two a fucking mustard Dad I mean that for a bottle of hot genuinely I mean that open I don't say open up so that another podcast There's people you see and you go They're so fucking talented and they not just the talent the hard work that goes with it You see them both and you go that some people are just destined for great for that good thing Why why did you not sort of put put that across to me when you did see me though? Because like if you don't like obviously
Starting point is 00:53:01 We like really good mates now best of friends. I'm looking forward to, I've not had the confirmation of the invitation to your house yet, but I'm sure that's what's coming. No, it is, we're just getting it ready. I look around now, I think, yeah, I mean, Lisa around here, well, it's not completely ready. Well, should we talk about inviting both of us rather than just Lisa?
Starting point is 00:53:19 Yeah. But when you first saw me, you were actually, you're actually quite dismissive and rude, if you remember. No I wasn't. I was number one, probably very very- I think the first thing you said to me ever, might have been, you think you're ready for the big leagues
Starting point is 00:53:35 then, something like that, like really sort of dismissive. Shut up, motherfucker. Mate, number one, like, you and me both, let me tell you, you and me both know quite how fucking nervous I get before a gig. The idea, I can tell you The first time I met you, actually was, there was another comedian, I won't be as disingenuous to mention his name, who died a death that was so fucking awful, because he did a whole story about wearing his stepdaughter's knickers.
Starting point is 00:53:53 You had to follow him. And I remember specifically turning around and going, bro, that's fucking, like, this whole night's just been shit. And I was like, I'm not gonna do this. I'm not gonna do this. I'm not gonna do this. I'm not gonna do this. I'm not gonna do this. I'm not gonna do this. I'm not gonna do this. I'm not gonna do this. Did a whole story about wearing his stepdaughters knickers. Yeah, you had to follow him and I remember Specifically turning around and going bro. That's fucking
Starting point is 00:54:11 like this whole night's just being shot in the head and I The props I'll give you is you could I went on Tried to make tried to turn it round introduce you you came on an absolute fucking smashed it and that's what I'd say Okay Let's edit all that out because that wasn't the aim of this. The aim of this was to have a little bit of fun and you've gone and told really heartfelt stories. It's horrible. Okay. Well I love it if you have all this Tibetan stuff. I've done a yoga mission. I feel good about fucking releasing goodness. Yeah me too. I love releasing goodness. Don't worry I can put in a slide and tackle when I need to baby.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Yeah, me too. I love releasing good. I'm worried I can't put in a sliding tackle when I need to baby. Hmm Tom it's about that time, please Could you take us out? What is the earth? What may be friend? Yeah, I guess in some schemes and some dreams. We're nothing but Inflated bouncing ball being passed around from hands to hands of more powerful people. So way hey what does that make us? Well I guess in a sense we're just a tiny little bit of particles of sand sitting on a beach. Some of us being pulled out to sea, some of us gravitating
Starting point is 00:55:21 to the shore, some of us bunching together to make a dune. Truth of the matter is we don't really have much control about what we do. See as the beach ball that flies around flies higher and gets hit higher you realize that you're not really really in control at all. The control is always going to be by the people hitting the beach ball. So that said, what's the best thing to do? Well, you have choices. Do you jump off the beach ball back into where it's scary? Or do you just try and group together? Try and find
Starting point is 00:55:59 sand, dry sand like yourself or wet sand solid. It's always good to be a part of a clique, but sometimes you've got to go your own way. Know your mind, and always remember, although you're just a beach pool sometimes being banged around by powerful hands, you could always decide to float off in the wind. Really, really nice.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Really nice. No idea what I was, actually that threw me quite unaware. I knew it was coming, but I didn't know it was coming quite so quickly. No, really nice. Really nice. No idea what I was going to say. Actually that threw me quite unaware. I knew it was coming, but I didn't know it was coming quite so quickly. No, really nice. Thank you. Two things. I went for it.
Starting point is 00:56:32 I did my marathon training this morning. Oh, by the way, the latest marathon video, very excited. You're genuinely going to knock an hour off your time. Yeah, but I went so, you know, like it wasn't I didn't train properly for the last one So I can afford to be trained low to the last one I did but like it wasn't enough it turns out that I did about like I did a lot of training for me Right, but remember I've got taken out for two weeks because I injured my ankle so I couldn't run for two weeks Remember I had to deliver Milton Keynes with a limp on tour
Starting point is 00:57:04 Anyway, one of the things that happened is My this is such a grim story Basically, even though I keep my toenail short one of them when I was running dug into one of the toes next door When I came in There's a bit blood You know, I felt like a proper athlete actually. Yeah. Anyway, during that training run I listened to this song, which I love.
Starting point is 00:57:31 AJ Tracy, Georgia Smith, Crush. Oh, shout out AJ Tracy. Yeah, JT, can you play us out with that please? Thank you so much for listening to the podcast. It's been a real... Journey of lust. ... sort of upper mid-tier I'd say. I've enjoyed today. I've enjoyed today. It's just good to see you. Tom, enjoy your big, big, big.
Starting point is 00:57:45 You know, I'm going on this. Actually, Jamesy, could you clip this up for TikTok, please? Tom, I know you're in your big, big house. Massive, massive place. Please enjoy your time in your castle, my guy. Well, Rom, you know what I would say? It's good to hear your voice again. And so, I'm going to go and get some sleep. Please enjoy your time in your castle, my guy.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Well, Rom, you know what I would say? It's good to hear your voice again and see your smiling face. Ha ha ha. Thanks guys, we'll see you next time. Love you, bye. Like my girls, I like my coffee sweet or like my Hennessy neat.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I don't wanna wear my heart on my top or sleeve Unless it's the CDG, like Baby girl be easy, I'll hold your hand but still be breezy 2k23, L-O-N-Weezy Fuck FaceTime, come see me in 3D Mike, Mike, yeah, excellent Pop Town play fit Let's hold hands on the block cause it's safe there We can smoke blunts in the next rich penthouse Bet you thought I was gonna say Mayfair I had drawers in a purse all bagged Now I'm trying to put your arm through a Virgil bag I love your braids and the way you style it too But I bet you heard all that If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all, please email us at wolfalpod.gmail.com.
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