Woman Evolve with Sarah Jakes Roberts - A Consistent Discipline w/ LeAnne Dlamini

Episode Date: August 2, 2023

Born and raised in Johannesburg, South Africa, LeAnne Dlamini has been on a mission to connect with women from around the world. What started off as a campaign called "End Girl Hate" (EGH), grew into a way of thinking, connecting, and encouraging women and girls to rise above the boundaries we often create amongst ourselves. Tune in as SJR and LeAnne explore how consistency breeds discipline, why team expansion is vital, and what to do during moments of discouragement. Sponsor alert—Sis, take control of your health by taking your annual wellness exams. The quality of care you deserve is just a click away! Go to Zocdoc.com/WomanEvolve and find a top-rated doctor today!

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Child. Hey, girl, hey, we are back this week and I cannot wait. We have so much more empowering conversation to share with you. You know, one of the things that I love about this week's theme is that we are maintaining our hope for consistency as it relates to holding ourselves accountable. I already know that if you are like me, then you've had some start and stop, some stop and start and some just cycling back and forth. Is it related to so many of your goals? Maybe it was a podcast, maybe it was your health and

wellness journey, maybe it was therapy, opening up, getting spiritual, we often find ourselves struggling to keep ourselves consistent. And so this week we want to talk about what type of accountability is connected with us keeping ourselves consistent. Well, I will have to tell you that one of the things I am learning as this year has played out, which by the way has been the year where I have been most consistent with my working out and eating out than I have ever been. You know what I think the secret is? I think it has little to do with me just having this magic pill of willpower and everything

to do with me finally no longer having a gold. So any other time when I started the year, I always had a goal. I wanna lose 20 pounds, I wanna lose 30 pounds. That means I started with an end in mind. I wanna start the podcast. Usually when we think about starting the podcast, we mean like one or two episodes.

And so we started with an end in mind. My mindset has expanded to not start with an end in mind, but to simply get comfortable starting. What if we saw everything as just beginning, as introducing this new way of being, and I'm rolling my eyes because all of the girls have been telling us it's a lifestyle and I didn't want to accept it, but guess what?

I guess it's a lifestyle. We have to be consistent when we realize that this is something that I'm going to do for the long haul. And so what's a real listed goal? How can I make this fun? How can I readjust my life to make this something that is sustainable? Maybe I need to spend less time thinking

about where I want to finish and more time thinking about how I want to live this out in my life. In order for us to hold ourselves accountable, though, we have to be willing to expand our vision and our perspective and lean into God's faithfulness, God's vision for our life because he is the only one who truly knows what tomorrow holds. I bet when Leanne Lemini found herself in South Africa starting this incredible organization called InGrow Hate that would eventually evolve into life design by her

that she had no idea that her life was gonna take some twist in turns. One, it was gonna grow and have more impact than she could have ever anticipated. And then she was gonna relocate, leaving the work that she established there and moving literally to a different country and having to ask God, what do we do now? Could it be that God's taking it global? Could it be that consistency has little to do with me consistently staying the same, doing things the way that I've always

done them, and everything to do with my commitment to consistently evolving. Leanne's going to share her story with us and I promise you you are going to experience the warmth of her light just by hearing her story and conversation. Little do you know that the rays of who she is are going to shine on the seed inside of you and you too are going to learn to be consistent with holding yourself accountable to who God has called you to be no matter where God has placed you. I can't wait to get into this and low key, I can't wait for us to go to South Africa now. Let's jump into it.

Hi! How are you? I'm so good how are you, Pastor Sarah? Amazing, thank you so much for doing this with me. Of course, thank you so much for having me. My heart is so happy. Leanne, can you tell me like what's an area of your life where you've had to work to be more consistent? Wow, Pastor Sarah, an area of my life where I really had to work. I think is doing what I currently do now.

So I have a business called Life Designed by Her, but initially it started as an organization an NGO called End Girl Hate. And just to kind of keep it going, I really had to push myself and get out of my comfort zone and really keep it going. So I think that would be one of the areas just being consistent in the work that I do and motivating myself. Now that's got answered your question.

You did, it's crazy though, because most people think that if I find my purpose, if I find the thing, that I think we'll add value to the world, then I won't have to worry about being consistent because I'll be so passionate that the discipline will just come organically and yet you found your passion and you had to work towards consistency. Why do you think you had to work towards it? I think because there's such a huge responsibility that comes when you find your passion, and especially in the space that I'm in, just working with women and girls, and it's so people centered, a lot of the times I'm very, all of my energy goes towards others, and I give, and I give,

and I give, and a lot of the time I'm not receiving. So that is, would probably be one of the main reasons why I have to keep motivating myself and stay consistent just because so much of what I do is giving and not really receiving. So I have to be very conscious of filling my cup in the process of serving others too. So you had to learn to consistently receive? Absolutely, and I'm very much a giver, so it's really hard, and it's something that I still struggle with, but I'm working on it. Okay, so you get in people's business now, because I think people are like, I will accept this, like, I am going to receive whatever help is coming my way

or I'm going to receive this support, this advice. But they really see it as like a one off. Like, I'm going to do it once and I won't have to do it over and over again. But the mindset of consistently being on the receiving end is not one that makes you helpless. It doesn't make you charity. It doesn't make you someone who is less capable of showing up in their life.

It makes you someone who honors reciprocity because you're not the only one pouring. You've also learned to receive consistently. I need to learn how to receive consistently. I think, I don't know. I think I'm getting better. The more tired I get, the more I'm kind of like, please, everybody help me.

Yes, yes. And I can totally relate to that. Because I think with the work that I've been doing, because I was doing so much of it by myself for such a huge amount of time, I was just exhausted. And I was finding that I was dropping balls and I wasn't on top of it as much as I should have been. And that's when I said, OK, God, you know what?

I need to start delegating and I need to reach out to the sisters who want to help me and have the same heart as me. And when I did that, so much change and a load was taken off my shoulders. So I pray that you can do the same and together we learn in this process. Okay, so how did you overcome the reality that getting someone else to do it? Means they aren't going to do it the way that you did it And sometimes that's a good thing sometimes that is an exercise in releasing control and power because

May not do it the way that you want it done But they get to train to learn how to do it better like how do you do release the control connected with that? I think I was just too tired, thank you. When you get to that point where you're like, you know what, I'm too tired, God, they're getting the message out there. Let's do this. But I think also when I connected with like-minded women who saw my heart and understood where I was coming from, I think a lot of the time they got the message. So they

didn't always convey it or do the work the way I would have wanted to, but for me to be a part of putting the work out there and guiding them was good enough. And we got the message out and we did the work and it was beautiful and the longer I've worked with them, I'm finding that they're getting better at doing what I do and speaking in my voice. So it's been amazing. Well, okay, so that's helping me. I think that's a word for people who are gifted. If the people you bring on to help serve your vision,

could do it the way that you do it, it would not make what you do as unique, but you have an opportunity to train them so that they can bring their gifts and talents into the marination of what you're working on. Absolutely. And also honoring the standard that you set. But I think there is this balance of recognizing that like if they could do it the way that

I do it, then I would not be set apart. But because I need expansion, I have to be willing to release control and teach. And it sounds like you learn to do that. Absolutely. And I definitely have. And it's been such a load of my shoulders and a gift to what I do as well and the business and just seeing LDH and end girl hate grow because now they are more people on the ground. I have more women to speak with my voice and it's just not me putting the work out there. It's being incredible. Okay, so why does someone start an organization called End Girl Hate?

So I have always had a heart for women and girls, even as a little girl. A lot of my friends will tell stories of how in primary school or high school, I always gravitated towards the girl who was kind of sitting alone in the corner or the new girl. And I just always wanted to embrace the girls and women who were new to our circle. And as I got older, that kind of stuck with me. I didn't realize it, but subconsciously, I was already serving my purpose as a girl, as a little girl. And now as a woman, that is how aimed girl hate was born. I wanted women to feel like they belonged. I wanted girls to love one another, love on one another. And my message is always being we don't have to be best friends, but we can be kind, we can be compassionate,

and we can try to understand where the other girl is coming from. And that really is how end girl hate was born. I've got two daughters, and I really wanted my girls to be different and interact differently with girls growing up and their relationships with women later in their lives. And I wanted to be the change in the world, the pasta Sarah, even with just little me in this corner in South Africa doing what I do, but I knew that it's a message that so many women and girls needed to hear. And I really just started posting messages on social media with the hashtag endgoelhate,

hashtag women for women. And women took to it and they were like, how can we make this a tangible thing? How does endgoelhate become real? Because there are so many women who want to belong and they just didn't have a place for it. And that's how it started. Now, I have always thought that it was just specific to our culture, this idea that like girls don't get along

or you women, can't put women in a room together without there being competition, but to know that this is a global dynamic that exists amongst connections with women is both discouraging and exciting because I think we have an opportunity to really turn the tables. Did you have first-hand experience

of receiving girl hate? Or were you just wired to be sensitive to what that girl hate was doing in the lives of the young women that you were gravitating towards? I think a big part of it is just my wiring. It's just how God made me. Because even before I started experiencing relationships with women as I was older, like I said, I just always had that need to unite and get women and girls together. And I think as I got older, so my background is actually music.

I started off in the music industry here in South Africa. And I remember walking into spaces, an event, or a gig and immediately you have everyone's eyes on you, like the women and they're staring you up and down. And I wanted to just change that narrative, just with my voice, just with who I am, how I show up in spaces is a woman who loves you, who is light, who is happy, who is supportive. And yeah, that's really a big part of it. So it wasn't really anything that I experienced firsthand, but it was also just the situations

that I was in and the environments and I knew that I needed for it to be an environment of love rather than, yeah, the disconnect. That's so interesting. I am a big proponent for women and connection and sisterhood now, but I have to be honest, it is not something that was a part of my makeup. I think from the moment that I felt othered, even before I got pregnant, the moment that I felt different from other women,

I saw other women constantly. In my perception anyway, I felt like women were constantly looking down on me, I was the bad girl, I wasn't, the good girl and so I would down on me, I think, and I was the bad girl, I wasn't, the good girl and so I would give that energy before I could receive it. It was my way of deflecting, and now that I know that that was deeply rooted

in my own insecurity, my own fear of further rejection, I recognize that girl hate is not always, sometimes it is just someone who has a bad attitude, but often I think it is really connected to insecurity. Do you think that there is an opportunity for us to hold up that type of mirror so that someone can see like the way that you are is hurtful to other women. And I wonder if it's because someone hurt you and what can we do to bring about healing? Absolutely, I think it's very, very connected and I think a big part of it is also self-esteem.

So that is why with end girl hate, I go into schools and speak to girls about self-esteem and insecurity because I believe that once you have that confidence within yourself and you are secure and you are stable and you are firm and grounded in knowing who you are. You don't have to take it out on the next girl and look down on the other woman. And so that I really do believe that our own insecurities, sometimes we're just projecting and it's what is happening within us and we're just taking it out on the other woman.

But we need to change the narrative. We know better, we do better, right? For sure. So how do you conquer your own insecurities? When you, like, because in girl hate, certainly, I think has a lot to do with, like, one woman and another woman, but oftentimes that inner girl hate that we have for ourselves, when our body is changing, our life is changing. How do we confront that inner girl hate?

Wow. You're digging into the dirt pastasera. So, I mean, I can relate to you on so many levels where you speak about not feeling worthy and imposter syndrome. And I don't really know when that switch happened for me because I always felt like I was somewhat secure in who I was but the bigger end girl Hayton LDH life design by her became the more I felt like I needed to kind of hide and dim my light. So I'm having to constantly speak the word of God over my life and as a girl,

a child of God having to remind myself that I've been fearful and one of you made. And this gift that God has given me is something that I need to protect and be proud of and put out there. So when I do have moments of feeling discouraged, I think about who I'm serving and really my mission and the only thing I ever want to do is honor God. And that's really what pushes me and keeps me going. But I do have days where I'm like, Lord, why am I in this room? And I once heard you say, you're not always the loudest person in the room. And I could so relate because sometimes, and that's where I have to hold myself accountable. Because here I am, speaking about women supporting women,

and I'm standing in the corner, not speaking to anyone, you know? So it's been a lot of learning for me, but just encouraging myself and standing on the word of God, because I know who I am because I know who I am, I know who I am, and my only mission is to honor him and that's what drives me. My emotions and my feelings outweighs anything. My need to serve God outweighs my emotions and my feelings. I just wanna serve Him and honor Him and do what pleases Him. I don't know who this is for, but stay off Beyonce's internet self-diagnosing

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I don't think anyone with an accent that beautiful can even like, I don't even know insecurity, it doesn't sound like insecurity when it comes out of your mouth. It sounds like something very beautiful because it's the accent and this beautiful face that you have, this beautiful spirit, but I recognize that oftentimes the women who are the most beautiful in spirit and connection have often become that beautiful because life's threatened that beauty inside of them.

And so when I look at your life, and then I hear the words end girl hate, I think it speaks very much so to like that little girl. And so I wonder for a moment, can you take me back that little girl. And so I wonder for a moment, can you take me back to little girl Ian and I want to know like what was your experience? What was your view of self, your view of God growing up? What was your childhood like? And how did you become this beautiful spirit over time? So I was born and raised in a township called Alderado Park here in Johannesburg, South Africa.

I had a beautiful childhood. It was a very creative one. I was always a very creative child to always singing and dancing around the house. My friends and I used to make up these shows and dance for anyone and everyone who would watch and watch us perform. My parents were incredible. My dad passed on eight years ago, but my parents really were a huge support in, I think, the person that I am today and just really laying the foundation for Julianne is. I grew up in the church, started singing in the choir at 13. So I was the youngest choir member in my church, I think, ever. So I was singing in the church at 13 years old. Very, very, I wouldn't say religious, but we were spiritual,

but we were spiritual, spirit-filled. And that is, I think, the foundation of my life, really. A very creative child, very happy. And it was beautiful, and later on in life, my parents, like I said, always encouraged me, and my mom decided to put me into the art school in Johannesburg. I went to the National School of the Arts, where I first studied drama, and then later went on to music and that's kind of how I was introduced to the music

industry. I started off as a backing vocalist for one of South Africa's huge artists and then later on went on to record my own albums but I think just all my interactions with people, my love for God, and just knowing who I am, being rooted in God, in that. And just watching incredible women and listening to incredible women really motivates me to be the change and be the person that I am, where I am today. My life has really taken a 360 lately. My husband was offered a job in Dubai so my husband and my children are actually there at the moment. I came home to South Africa for work this week so I'm here currently but I'm heading back next week. But I think when your topic came through and it was speaking about consistency, it was a reminder for me to just keep going because I often wondered

like God, you are moving me from the place where End Girl hates started and where everyone is and where everyone knows me and you're putting me into this foreign land and this new land with new people. But I believe that God's doing a new thing and so I'm excited and I know that integral hate and his plans are bigger than just me and South Africa. Yeah, it sounds like it's actually international, which I love. As you're talking, I can't help but think about Girl Evolve, which is a new expansion of women involved that we're introducing at conference because we just are seeing the alarming stats about what's taken place with young girls. And then even hearing the stories of women

and recognizing that most of our stories, our trauma, our issues, our insecurities that were confirmed started when we were young girls. And so if we can get to that girl level and begin to help them empower them at that age, we believe that it will make for much more successful women. Are you noticing as well that young women where you are are experiencing more insecurity, more self-harm, more doubt, more fear, anxiety, mental health issues, then I think we had growing up. It seems like it's just exponential. Absolutely. And I think social media, the internet has a huge part to play in it. Even in South

Africa, I see it. Girls are so consumed by what they're seeing. Everything is all about the way you look, your body, what other people are doing, how they're dressing, and we're not doing the inner work. It's all about aesthetics and the outside and the outside world. That is why it's so important for us as the aunts, the mothers, the uncles, the fathers to take responsibility and do the work now. That is why it's my mission to go out there and speak to girls and help them see their worth and change. And you do it one person at a time, one school at a time, one girl at a time, and it works. It pays off eventually. That's so good.

What I love about your story is that you had this beautiful childhood, this presence of God in a real spiritual way, not just religious, but a real spiritual way. And I think ultimately that that exchange that you and God have been having since you were a little girl created such overflow for you to pour into others. And we need stories like yours, we need voices like yours where we know from even a young age, even to now about God's faithfulness and God's consistency, because I do think

that it provides an opportunity to inspire others. Can you tell me, what do you think is the number one recurring obstacle that you recognize that girls are experiencing? And how do you give them tools to overcome it? I think it would be low self-esteem. Girls don't believe that they are beautiful enough and that they are worthy enough. And I don't know if they're not getting that at home anymore or they seek outside validation, but that is one of the biggest things that I'm seeing with girls here.

They don't feel that they're worthy. They don't see themselves as beautiful, especially. I know all across the world, it's like that for girls, but especially here in Africa, we have this western picture of what beauty is meant to be and we don't see our own beauty the way it is. It is changing slowly but surely and when you see girls, our beautiful African girls shining on screens like Tusson Betou and Nomsama and Vata. And they're just beautiful and owning it. I think that is what our girls need to see more of. We need to see ourselves out there and know that we are beautiful, but also just speaking

life into our children and speaking life into them. Yeah. I'll tell you one of the things that I have noticed over the last, I'll say maybe five to seven years, is that particularly people on the continent of Africa have been more visible in not just media and arts and entertainment but in business as well. And I believe that it's creating a new narrative for Africa in a way that is empowering and intriguing to African Americans. What role do

you think we have as brothers and sisters, those separated on different continents to really begin to work together to change the stereotypes, to change some of the impressions that exist about us and our respective communities. And how can we work together to really bring healing and an emergence of intellect and wealth and knowledge and science and resources that I think really honor the shared roots that we have in common. I am big on collaboration over everything, collaboration for me, Trump's anything. So I think

if we could collaborate more as women, brothers and sisters of color, as children of God, see how we can work together in our respective fields, see how we can help each other, how we can make it work, how I can get your message out there, how you can get my message out there, but collaboration for me is huge. So whichever way we can work together, whatever it is that we're doing, I think that is a big point that we need as

brothers and sisters, and especially here in Africa, we just need for other people to also be our voice, because you know how good we are and what we can do and that we're very capable, but we just sometimes need someone to speak for us too. So if we can have our American brothers and sisters be our voices to here in Africa, that would be incredible and help share our stories and likewise because I feel like we see so many stories coming from the Western world, but no one really knows what we're doing here and we're often sideline.

So if we could collaborate more, if we could share spaces and create more spaces where we can be together, that would be incredible. OK, you answered my question because I was going to ask you, what is it that we have on this side of the world that you think would be helpful for what's happening on your side of the world? But since you answered that, I want to ask you a

different question. So from the moment I started blogging, speaking, or whatever, South Africa became like they were there. Like, I don't even understand how it happened or what it was. But even I don't think we post anything without someone being like, when are you coming to South Africa? You need to come to South Africa.

And so I want to know, what do you think it is about? What many of all? What do you think it is about the messages that we're sharing that is drawing the women of South Africa in a way that seems kind of like, I don't know, it seems large to me, the following that we have in South Africa,

even though I'm not there, and don't have any idea what life is like there I've never been to the continent at all and yet there's this deep connection. What do you think it is? I think it is our hunger for God. We are just so hungry and expected for more and more of him. And I think very close to that is you, Pastor Sarah, it's just your message, the way you speak to us, the way you connect with women is like we have never seen before. And so I think it's you, it is your gift, it is what you carry that really connects with so many women here. Just the motivation that you give and the way you carry yourself, that gift that you have, the anointing that is on your life. As women in Africa, we can so relate because you speak to us

and you connect to our hearts, each and every single Sunday with every message and every word. We feel it, we hear it, we long to have it in person. And so we're just so hungry for more of God and just the work that he's doing in you, in you, in you. I've always believed that like whatever it is that you admire about someone is really got you on your reflection of what's inside of you. So I think maybe part of that draw too is that the women in South Africa are coming to a stage in their life where they don't just want more of God.

They also want to be the hands and feet of God. They want to believe that they can bring change with their gifts and talents. And so part of maybe what they're experiencing when they hear my messages really really a clarion call from God saying take your position, get in your spot that time is now and I do I want to help push as much as I can push whether it's here or in South Africa but I think ultimately it feels like for me very much so in the states that the tides are turning in that women, especially women of color are beginning to take prominent positions in the kingdom, especially women of color, are beginning to take prominent positions in the kingdom, prominent positions in spaces of corporate America.

And I think that it is the leveling of the playing fields, so that real changing, real establishing can take place. Right. Absolutely. And the same is happening here in Africa. Women are taking the lead, we're not sitting back anymore, and we're realising that we have a call in our lives, we have gifts, we can stand at the top, we can be in those boardrooms with men and be on par with them, we can stand on

stages with men and sing and perform and be just as good as them. And so I think it really is happening in Africa. And I think now it's just us really honing in on that and tapping into that. And I know that for me, that's why I relate to you so much because I realize that there is more and I need to get to that more, God. And so every, every week and every day, I'm just trying to figure out how do I tap into that?

Where, where is next, where, why, how, you know? And I think so many women feel like that too. We're not settling for safe anymore and just to sit on the sidelines. We realize that there's work to do and we have to get out there and do it. Okay, so now that you're in Dubai and you're figuring out what does life, what does purpose, who am I in this season?

What are some things that you are committed to holding on to and what are some things that you're like, you know what? I'm going to have to release this, allow God to transform it and then see what happens from there. So I think really what I'm, let me start with the releasing is everything that needs to happen here with end girl hates and with life designed by her, delegating and handing over responsibility fully and me just kind of saying what needs to be done and overseeing it. And now the new role that I'm trying to step into is seeing how we can take the message of LDH and end girl hate, global. And I'm now in a whole new land, I'm literally in the desert

and speaking the word of sisterhood, but more importantly, allowing them to see God in me because that is all I wanted for people to see, just see his love, see his light, and spread it no matter where I am. So yeah, really just making L.D.H. a global platform as well as end-girl hates and seeing how it goes. What do you think is like your biggest worry with this expansion?

My biggest worry currently is not being connected to the women that I am so very close with. being connected to the women that I am so very close with. So out of sight, out of mind, and I kind of feel when people feel like you're removed or you're not in the same space as them, you're no longer a part of them. So for me, it's just making sure that I am connected to my brothers and sisters here in South Africa. And that I always just have my heart is here, that they know that my heart is here, and that I will not leave, no one gets left behind, that we are still part of this community,

and that we all belong. I think that's what my biggest worry is that people don't feel like I have left or abandoned. But that we are just growing. I think, man, I can relate to that in my own way between moving back to Dallas, but even seeing Woman Evolve grow. And when Woman Evolve first started, I was in the closet recording this podcast. And it was amazing for me. and I was moderating the comments

and doing all of the things and it is hard. I don't think people spend enough time talking about how difficult it is to grow because you do lose some of the comfort and security that can only come with things being intimate. And there's more exposure with growth. There's more opportunity for bigger mistakes when there's growth. And so I'm wondering, like, am I, when we talk about consistency, am I trying to be consistently

who I was yesterday or consistently open to grow, change and transform? Because if I decide to be consistently who I was yesterday, then I do a disservice to how I am biologically made up. I wasn't created to stay the same. I'm supposed to be aging. I'm supposed to be growing and evolving. And so the commitment to evolving means that I am consistently going to be incrementally different

but also incrementally better. And I believe that people who consistently going to be incrementally different, but also incrementally better. And I believe that people who are called to you, the people who are called to me, are going to go on that journey with us. And those who aren't have someone who's coming to meet them where they are until they can move to that stage. But that I think is one of the most challenging parts of choosing what to be consistent to when we see our lives are turning in a way that has increased connected to it. Absolutely.

And sometimes, God's plans, well always, God's plans are always different to what we had for ourselves. So, like you, I started off very small and still am quite small. And I always said, I never want to be on this big global platform because I want to be connected and it's more intimate and safe space and the more time has gone by, God has just increased my territory and increased what we're doing and so and increased what we're doing. And so it's growing with that and realizing that we are evolving, right?

Women, we grow and God takes us to bigger and better and you grow either together or you grow somewhere else. Do you know what I mean? You grow elsewhere and someone else will meet you where you're at, but it is good to grow and change. Leanne, I am wondering who is the most influential woman who has helped you and girl hate? The most influential woman who has helped me and girl hate, I think would be my mother. She is the the kindest person I know. My mom is all about love and I think just seeing that in my home, seeing that with my mother,

there was no other choice but for me to be like that. And I'm hoping that I pass that on to my children too. And I see it with them. They grandmother's heart and her compassionate nature has definitely been passed on to them. So definitely my mom. Beautiful. Well, what do you hope that she knows about the has been, if not the most influential woman in my life. I didn't grow up in a household where we spoke about emotions and feelings and we're very affectionate. But I hope that she knows that she really is a big part of who I am today and everything that I am, I really owe to her. So I thank her for raising me the way she has or supporting me the way she has and for

still continuing to love me the way she does. That's amazing. Thank you, Leigh. This is you have such a beautiful spirit. And I can't wait to collaborate more with you. Yeah. Thank you. I have a friend who actually bought me a ticket to Women Evolve. So I am I'm going to be there. She's coming from South Africa. I'll go from Dubai, but we will meet there and I will be there. I'm so excited. And I'm going to put you to work. So just I know. I'm glad you told me. I am here to work. I'm here to serve. I'm ready. Thank you. Thank you. It's been an honor talking to you. Thank you, Pastor Sarah. Thank you so much.

You are incredible. We love you. We honor you. You are such a gift. You're a treasure. And I pray that God just continues to increase and enlarge your territory, and that he keeps you safe always. We love you so much. I love you, too. I received that. Thank you. Take care. Thank you. Bye. Leanne, I am so grateful for the time that we spent together conversing about what it means to be a good woman to another woman and how we can take a moment to confront the inner girl hate that keeps us from celebrating other women.

If you enjoyed this podcast, I highly suggest you find a woman and just give her a compliment for no reason. You have no idea what type of inner girl hate she may have experienced or out of girl hate that she's up against, but one thing she can know for sure is that when she encounters you, the girl hate just ended. Spend your week celebrating and loving on all of the girls that come your way. And then next week, let's pour a little bit more into your cup.

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