Worst Case Scenario with Abi Clarke and Julia Stenton - Day 12 - Mike Dippolito

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

Lights, camera, murder? The TV show COPS caught the moment Mike Dippolito's wife found out he had been murdered... only what they recorded and knew, was that Mike was alive and that police had foiled his planned murder which was arranged by his wife!On this episode of Worst Case Scenario hear of Mike's chequered past, whirlwind romance, the planned murder and how it was all caught on camera for the show COPS.Send in tales of survival from your own worst case scenario to [e-mail] and don't forget follow the podcast on Instagram @wcspod to see pictures mentioned by Abi and Julia on this episode and all episodes so far.Theme tune by the brilliant Crizards who can be found on Instagram @crizardsAbi and Julia are in Edinburgh this August for the Fringe Festival. Get tickets to see Abi here and Julia here! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hear how they survive Trappled by a herd of buffalo Chaste with an axe by your new friend Joe Burried alive in a pile of snow It's the worst case scenario. Hello, hi. Welcome to Worst Case Scenario. Hello.

Hi, Abby. My apologies, as I have my sounds too on. Abby's late, and her sound is on, her laptop. So professional. Sorry, it's just my sister texting. Welcome to foster cat Bella. No joke. end of the podcast to understand what that means if we haven't cut it okay so let's put it on silent

i'm late today because i think i had the truest survival skill of all kicking yeah and that is a gut feeling yeah i think i should i cannot wait for the emails i can't wait for the emails in response to this so i leave the house yeah right i'm walking down the street on time presumably on time leaving the house still a little bit late oh okay right but like an acceptable amount of late you know what is the acceptable amount of late abby i'd say five or ten minutes over the ten minute mark just to fill you in we have this studio book for a very specific amount of time and we have the person who was half an hour late last week are you joking she was an hour late last week yeah it was the train's fault oh it was the train's felt yeah also i was

20 minutes late but okay and it was the train but okay go on okay anyway so you were late because i was only late i was late because oh you're watching a documentary i was watching a documentary i found i've spent all week researching a story like two hours before i have to leave i find there's a first person account yeah of the story so i was trying to watch it whilst like eating and getting out the house in the rush obviously i'm not paying major attention so then i'm i'm speedwalking down the road and i ring my dad because i can't be left with my own thoughts. So I ring him and just immediately, as if like the spirit of my parents entered me

through the phone call, you know, the anxiety of a 60-something-year-old man just entered me and I went, I've left the hob-on, right? And I just couldn't think. I was like, I definitely would have turned it off, right? I was making soup. If you know soup, I would say it's actually the most at-risk food of leaving Hob-on because you take it down to a low heat just before the end. and you can't really see a flame.

Okay, I see. So I was like, it's a high-risk food, but like I'm sure I would have turned it off. But also, like, I was distracted by the documentary because I was doing some very intense research for this very serious podcast that I take very seriously. Yeah. For a story, she's not, she's not doing today.

No, not today. So just late for literally no reason. I didn't know that. I didn't know. No, go on. Until you said. You, we agreed that I was going to do two today. I didn't know that.

Also, I'm going to a party later, so I won't have time to do it anyway, so I had to get it done. Okay. right someone has a social occasion finally finally something in the diary yeah okay anyway so I'm on the phone to my dad I'm like I think I've left the hop on even my dad was like what are the chances like you need to get I was like and I was like you know

what no better safe and sorry it's a survival podcast after all they'll understand go home go in no flame I'm like oh my fuck sake and then I look at the little things it is it's turned right down it was on yeah Turn it off. And now, every time I think maybe the hob's on, I'm going to have to check. And I think that's happened for me about 30 years too early in my life.

I think the most important thing to take from this is when you take your soup off, turn the hob off. It's just not that simple, Julia. Right in, if you have left the hob on, everybody has, everybody has. No one's questioning the food choice. Like this is... I just, my theory is soup is higher risk.

Okay, yeah. Anything on a low heat. is a high risk. I agree with you there. Yeah, I guess I'll have chocolate as well. Yeah. Maybe what you need is just a little post-it above your cooker next to your cooker on a cabinet somewhere that says, Abby, have you turn the hob off? So you don't have to leave the house to be talking to your dad in order to have that epiphany. Yeah, but this is what I mean. This is my life now. It's going to add on like two, three minutes. Every time I leave the house, I'm going to have to stop at the front door, go back, check the hob. My life's over.

Well, the podcast is open. I'll have great. We're not going to get any more episodes recorded. Thanks for listening. Anyway, we've both picked out the same news story this week. Yes. So we're talking about it. We did see the same news story.

Kim Kardashian, Lifesaver. Not only is she getting people out of prison. Mum. Model. Reality TV star. Ex-wife of Man. Bad rapper. Like it's, she can do it all. She can do it all. And now she's saving lives. And now she's making. Life saving equipment. Her skim's underwear saved a woman's life.

Yeah. She got shot. Four times. And the underwear was so tight and restrictive. Yeah. Holding all of those body insecurities tightly in. That'll save you. Then it stend the bleeding like a tawny gay. Yeah. Add that to you. See, it's a confusing kind of promotion because on one side it is saying like it'll save your life. Yeah. Right. But like it is also saying that it is too tight and probably incredibly uncomfortable. No? Yeah. I mean is that yes I agree. Is it too tight? Well, I mean she was wearing it and in the article I read it didn't say you know what this was uncomfortable and

tight but thank god i was wearing it yeah but like i feel i feel like a woman is never in an interview like oh my bra was tight and uncomfortable i mean anything doesn't mean it's not and we'd all like to be wearing pajamas 24-7 let's be honest but like anything that is compressing your body to that extent yeah has got to be in some way uncomfortable for sure um but thank god she was well and do you know what i say let's get rid of uh bulletproof vest well i was well i was I want to see every police off. Let's kit the police out in skims, yeah. She's got an opportunity here for a whole campaign.

Oh my God. Make them the every man. Exactly. It can afford. To be fair, yeah. Yeah, the country's not saving money by being sponsored by skims. I'll be honest. No, I don't think that helps with like, don't fund the police.

I think we'd have to put a lot more funding. We're refunding the police. Yeah. To put them in skims. Yeah, but man, do they look good. But maybe just like the army. can we even though it's not like in a story that skims in our survival toolkit or in our i think let's wait for we could we could wait to learn more about what if we die next week and

skims wasn't in the survival toolkit i mean we've got what if i get shot tonight you get shot tonight yeah at your 30th birthday party uh not mine don't put that oh no we know you're 31 sorry my mistake my mistake right let's get on with it okay I've got a story for you all right this is quite a big one like I imagine you probably know this one

oh okay you've probably heard of this one before I thought you meant big as in like to research oh yeah I'm like good one to take on the wheat you have to do too but also I'm scratching the surface with this like there are so

many other podcasts out there with much more detailed. Right. So stop this now. Yeah, go find one of those. Go find another one. This will be the worst coverage of this story. Hey now, I've put my own spin on it. All right. It's good. This is good stuff. You're in for good, you're for a tree. But if you want, uh, if you want facts and like details. Right. Not here. Go elsewhere. Right. So what are you bringing? Just like, the musical version. Pazas. Okay. It's one of those stories that has really like,

stuck with me ever since I heard it and I've been wanting to do it on here. So, on the 5th of August, 2009, 26-year-old newlywed, Dahlia DiPolito, heads to the gym at 6am, leaving her husband of six months, Mike DiPolito, in bed.

Okay. Normally, he would have joined her, but he is currently recovering from liposuction surgery. So he is bedbound. Halfway through Dalia's workout, she is contacted by police. asking her to return home as quickly as possible. Not a call you want to get when you're in the gym.

I was immediately like, well, the woman's in trouble. Bad me. Bad. Yeah. Men can be in trouble too. Check yourself. Yeah. To be fair. Not all men. Not most of these stories when the police call is. You say woman goes anywhere. I'm like, well, she's dead. Yeah, exactly. Well, this time, no, you're wrong.

On arriving back, she sees yellow crime tape wrapped around her house. The door was wide open and covered with fingerprint dust and police officers are gathered on the street out the front. Dalia approaches the officers and the detective in charge waste no time in telling her that there has been a break in and her husband, Mike, has been shot and killed. But this is a survival story? Dalia immediately breaks down,

grabbing onto the arms of the detective, begging to go and see her husband. The whole exchange is captured on. film by the reality TV show, Cops. Shut up. Bad boys, bad boys. Oh, what you're going to do? For a second, I thought you're going to be like then Ashton Cutschie came up.

Oh my God, imagine, yeah. I was like, you've been punked. That's what I thought it was going. No. Oh, it's on Cops. So Cops, do you remember Cops? No, of course I don't. Cops.

Oh, my God. Cops was amazing. Cops was like true crime podcast before podcasts were a thing. It was just a camera crew that followed round a, like, towns, police. Yeah. And they still do those kind of things. They still do, yeah, yeah.

Cops was huge, though. It was like the show. And the theme tune was, bad boys, bad boys. It was very, it's iconic. It's absolutely iconic. Sounds like a very serious show. Yeah, really, it, like, it's funny

because probably now watching it, it's probably, like, quite, I wonder if it stood up. If it stood the test of time, it'd be interesting to see. Just to say, it's still going. It's still going. Apparently, it's still going.

Let's watch it right now. Fuck your story. Oh my God, I know what I'm doing when I get home. That's incredible. That must be, that's, that's a long running show. Okay, so the, so the cameras for cops are capturing the whole thing. They see this poor woman being told her husband has just been killed. Are you allowed to capture that?

As long as you sign the waiver, you can capture whatever you like. But I feel like she won't, right? She'll be like, blur my face up, maybe. Well, I'll let you, I'll let you know. So, okay, so that's the climax of the story. Let's go back and learn more about Mike and Dahlia's origin story. So Dahlia is from a close-knit religious family. She grew up in New York until she was 13 when they moved to middle-class, Boonton Beach Inn.

Your favourite place? Florida. Florida. Yes. It's a Florida story. After the uni, she becomes a real estate agent. Because we don't say real estate agent, I just read that. She becomes a real estate agent.

A real life estate agent. But she also works as an escort on a website, www. eros.com. And Mike DiPolito stumbles across eros.com and arranges a date with Dahlia. They have instant chemistry and after the first night, it's no longer a financial arrangement.

They just fully start dating. The problem is, Mike is also married at the time. Good. So Mike, Mike has an interesting past. He's a bit of a wheeler dealer, entrepreneur type. He gets in trouble for defrauding people. So he was part of this scheme that was like cold calling people

and selling them gold and foreign currencies, but ultimately they were just stealing people's money. He's arrested and sentenced to two years in prison and then 28 years probation. He ended up only serving seven months in prison, but he still has to do the 28. is probation and is ordered to pay back $191,000 in restitution to his victims, and this is to be paid in monthly installments over the 28 years, which is why it's such a long probation period.

The conditions of his bail are very strict. He has to meet with his parole officer once a month to give details about where he's living, what car he's driving, where he's working, and how much money he's making so that they can amend the payments. His car could be searched at any time and he isn't allowed to move without permission from the court at all at all just has to sit in the corner move house he can't move house he can move rooms sure yeah um so now he's out of prison though he's he's on the straight and narrow he's five years out of prison he's got um he started a new company called mad media which is so early 2000s i can't bear it um he's selling ad banners and search engine optimization services

to direct traffic to clients' websites so they pay him so that... Whoa. Headless time. Yeah. Wait, when is this? 2009. Okay, maybe not so ahead of his time. Yeah.

Just kind of bang on time. Bang on time. He's bang on time. And so he's doing well. He's earning decent money. So him and Dahlia are a whirlwind. They're like mad for each other. And he divorces his wife.

And on the same day, the divorce is finally. finalised, he withdraws $238,000 in cash and buys a townhouse at the Renaissance Commons, which is just like a place in Florida. As the real estate agent for Mike, Dahlia also manages to wangle a commission for the house purchase. That shouldn't be allowed. So she, yeah. That's not legal, is it? It doesn't sound a bit dodged, doesn't it?

I guess so. I mean, she's got the license, she can do the work, I guess. and better that the commission goes to her than a stranger, maybe. Yeah, of course, duh. Yeah. But like, can you get, give yourself your own discount? Or was she like, I've never met the guy?

I don't, I guess there's nothing, well, I don't think there's anything illegal about it. If you're a real estate agent and you know the ins and out. Sounds dodgy? It does sound dodgy, doesn't it? But I don't think it is. I think it's okay. I think it's just like...

Just perks. Yeah, just perks, exactly. Okay, five days later, Mike and Dahlia are married. So they buy the house, quickie marriage. They talk about travelling, but due to the heavy restrictions made by Mike's probation, that seems just like a pipe dream. As we know, he has to alert them before moving.

Yes, he can't do that. He can't do that. There is one way he could do it, though, and that is if he gets off probation early by paying back the $191,000 that he owes in restitution. So he could pay it in bulk. So he could pay it off. So he's pretended to die.

Well. So I'm trying to guess where this story is going. So Dalia says if he can find 100,000, she'll kick in the other 91,000. And they can pay it off and then they're free to go wherever they'd like. But so this is, if you want the real insol- there's so much back. and forth that I'll be honest I lost track of and I had to listen to the same podcast over and over again and read some really truly boring facts online about it but if you want

that go elsewhere there's a really good case file episode about this which really goes into the financial back and forth but the crux of the matter is that the money never gets paid it has to make its way to a lawyer who's sort of brokering the deal with the police about paying back the money it never makes it to the lawyer it's all a bit dodge a third party gets involved it's it's dull okay so back to the day of the murder dahlia is bought to the police station so it is a murder it's a murder i'm so confused dahlia is brought to the police station to ask her about the days leading up to mike's murder and who she thinks might have a motive Like, who did he know?

Did he have any issues with people? She is desperate to see him. Like, she really wants to see him, but they won't let her because it's like, he's a shot, it's a bad. It's like not a good... But they have the body? They have the body.

So they ask her about his criminal history and she tells them all about it and how he still owes 191,000 in restitution. She tells them he was about to get off probation early after paying back all the restitution and maybe the victims didn't like that, potentially. She also reveals that he has to stick to a very rigid schedule every day in order to ensure that he stays sober.

So every day he wakes up early, he goes to the gym and then Starbucks. He then goes to an AA meeting and then goes to work because he used to be addicted to crack and he also sold crack for a bit. And so, but he's doing, you know, everything he can to sort of stay sober and do the right thing. With this new information, the detectives go back and check with the other officers to see whether or not the house was also burgled,

whether it was like a burglary that went wrong. Of course. They then bring a man in handcuffs who was found near the property around the time of the murder and asks if she recognises him at all. She looks him up and down and shakes her head. She's never seen him before.

He's walked out of the room. Detectives give her all the graphic details of her husband's death, and Dahlia is devastating. stated, she explains that he's on parole and he's pissed off a lot of people and he owes money to all these people, but he wouldn't even open the door to someone he didn't know. The police then bring another person to the doorway of the interrogation room. Sorry, they just keep bringing these guys in. Yeah. Yeah. Just like in the same room. Yeah. She's like distraught. Couldn't be bothered

with a line up. Yeah, it's just easy. Well, she's in. She's here. She's here. Right as well, just bring him in. Yeah. Is he handcuffed? This one isn't. This one is free roaming. This one is not handcuffed. Meet my friend. I don't feel like they're doing that how they're going to do it. Do you think? Okay, interesting. That's interesting. Why are you doing this to me? This, this story is so, what's going on? Well, the person in the doorway is the last person Dahlia is expecting to see because the person in the doorway is Mike, her husband. Fuck off. I knew he wasn't. Completely unharmed. Dahlia is then arrested for soliciting for murder

of her husband of six months Mike DiPolito. The plot to kill him. Okay, Dahlia has a Friends with Benefit situation with a convenience store owner and wannabe actor,

Mohamed Shahada. Dahlia tells Mohamed that Mike is emotionally abusive and explains that divorce would never be enough to be rid of him. She enlists Mohammed to help carry out the plan, but Mohammed knows if Mike is killed, the police will come straight to him. Because obviously, they'll look at her phone and be like, oh, you were having an affair. So let's go to that guy. He tells her they need a hitman, someone who can't be traced back to either of them. So she goes

down to this place that's like notorious for where gangs hang out. And she basically just announces very loudly that she's looking for someone to murder her husband. Uh-huh. A couple of gang members, like, come over and say, yeah, let's, let's do it. Muhammad knows these guys, and then they, again, there is more to that side of it, but we don't have time to go into it. But it's, basically, the gang members are interested, and then they ask for Mohammed's advice, and he says, she's already talking to the police about how he's abusive, so it's

messy. Like, I'd give it a swerve if I were you. Oh, Muhammad himself? Yeah, Mohammed says that to the gang members who have asked him what, whether it's a good idea or not to go through with the hit. Right, but Mohammed is pro killing him. Well, he's pro Dahlia. He's like pro... But he's not pro this plan. I, I, no, he's not pro this plan. Because whilst Dahlia is off telling everybody, it would seem that she wants her husband murdered, Muhammad goes to the police. He doesn't know her last name since she's got married. He doesn't know her last name or where she lives. So the police are like, this sounds like bullshit.

But then obviously they're like, oh God, also potentially a man's life is at risk. Yeah, yeah. Let's not just say he's making it. Yeah. So what the police do is they set up a good old-fashioned sting operation. Wow. They wire up Mohammed and put a camera in the back of his car. He arranges to meet Dahlia under the guys that, like,

he's found somebody to do the hit. And so they have to meet and he's going to like explain to her what's going to happen. This is seeming familiar now. Yeah. So there's very famous footage of this interaction in the car.

So Dahlia gets in the car and then very quickly spills the beans with very little prodding from Mohammed. Well she was planning it with him already. Yeah, she goes straight into it.

but there's no like hey how was your day it's like straight to it okay let's kill him a productive lady yeah there's no um no small that's like how i text straight to it just like always like i'm mad yeah so they talk through the logistics um he says the hit man might instruct you to instruct you to go out of town when the murder takes place and she's like i'm not going out of town no she has all these demands uh i think she just doesn't she just can't be asked oh she's just like this is where my hair place is exactly she's like i'm to go about my daily business and you can fit this murder around it as you will yeah you can this can go around me then mohammed is like is his mom not going to get suspicious of you or anything like he's

trying to mitigate problems and then she comes back with why me like do you know what fucking killing someone is nobody is going to be able to point a finger at me she's very confident so when she's meeting mohammed she also brought a she brought with her one thousand two hundred dollars in for Mohammed to pass on to the hitman so that he can buy the gun and then she hands over two pictures of Mike so he knows exactly who the target is and then she shouts at Mohammed

like make sure you wipe the fingerprints off the pictures so she's thinking about everything this is crazy I can't leave this as on telly are you reading about the story that I am telling you I'm just looking in pictures but I'm just like how much so was all this

Mohammed coming to the police also on cops No. Oh, okay. Just the capture. Just the sting, yeah. Just the sting. Yeah. So police decide her handing over the money is good, but it's not quite enough for a conviction. So they arrange a meeting with the hitman. And the hitman is played by Woody Jean, who was a detective with the Boynton police posing as their hitman. They rig up his car with cameras and mics, and then they do the same thing again. They arrange a meeting with Dahlia. She gets in and immediately starts discussing. the hit. Detective Whitty makes it crystal clear after this meeting there is no going back. So he's like, are you absolutely sure you want your husband dead? Because once you get out this car, it's a done deal. He's dead. And Dahlia replies, this is a very famous response. Houston, we have a problem. Yeah. I mean, on a par with Houston, I have a problem. I'm positive. I'm like 5,000% sure. And that will really seal her fate later.

So they go over the plan. She will go to the gym. He'll enter the house, put two shots in the back of Mike's head. And when she gets back, she's going to find her husband dead. Okay. Right. So Dahlia hadn't jumped straight to murder. Her original plan was to get Mike arrested,

breaking the conditions of his probation and sending him back to prison. and months before the murder Mike was stopped by police who'd been tipped off that he was selling drugs out of his truck the police searched the car the truck and find a bag full of pills and cocaine Mike immediately like he breaks down in tears

and insists that they aren't his and they must have been planted by his ex-wife fortunately for Mike the police believe him and release him without charge the police said he looked as surprised to see them as we were when Mohammed told police about Dalia's plot he also said this wasn't the first time she'd tried to kill him so her plan was originally just to send him to prison

but then she's told Mohammed that only death will do yeah so that didn't work getting him put back into prison yeah she just wanted she just wanted him gone and access to his house and his money, which is why they got married so quickly so that she's entitled to everything. So if he went to prison, she'd get all that.

The same as if he died. Yeah, essentially. Well, she'd get, yeah, she'd definitely get the house. I'd try that just maybe one more time. Well, she did it, he was stopped twice. Okay. And randomly searched after a tip-off to pennies. Wow, that really is mad that they just let him go.

Yeah, one time they didn't find anything. And then Mike did find what had been planted and the second time was when he or maybe this was the first time um that is when he cried yeah mad isn't it so he so mohammed is telling them everything and he reveals that she herself had tried to kill him she'd tried to spike his iced tea with antifreeze that's how you'd do it that is how i would do it that's exactly how i would do it about how she'd kill someone if she had to i do yeah and it's and it's antifreeze it is anti-freeze it is anti-freeze Why?

Because it's tasteless and odourless and rarely caught in an autopsy. Thank you. Neal's terrible. This is what we talk about. It's good to know, which is good to have in your back pocket. It is good to have in your back pocket. You definitely can't do it now because everybody knows that's how you want to do it. I think of another one.

Really, I could frame you quite easily. No, I can't. That's on the podcast too. Yeah. What would be your second choice after anti-freeze? Maybe the big walk, the big walk and the old push off the big cliff. Really? Yeah.

The big walk. Because they wouldn't, because you wouldn't expect it from me. Especially if I'm murdering, I'm quite small. It's quite difficult for you to push anyone over. Yeah. You'd be better off going behind them and letting them just step backwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably how I'd do it. I do the, like, oh, let's take a picture of you here.

Oh, back a bit, back a bit, and then they're off. Oh, you'd do that? Yeah. This feels like how you're going to kill me. That is a, that would be. good way of getting you. That sounded targeted. I mean, you asked me, just on the top of my head. You didn't even have to tell me to take a picture. I'd be asking you to take a picture. Exactly. Yeah. It's a perfect crime. And everybody would

believe me. No, she insisted that I take a picture of her. She absolutely insisted. Well, I'm never asking you for a photo again. Oh, good. This has worked out perfectly for me. Fantastic. Where are we? Oh, anti-freeze. So, she's bought him an iced tea from Starbucks, not sponsored. Um, and she's, and she's... tipped a bit of empty-freeze in it. Why did I think all iced teas were alcoholic? Long Island ice tea, you're thinking of.

I thought that was the only kind of ice tea. That says a lot about you. No. I've turned down a lot of ice tea. I think the normal ice tea is just... Really? Yeah. So, is that just tea with icing?

Yeah. Sometimes it's fruity. Sometimes it's like, you know how they have tea in America where it's like, they have it like chamomile with some lemon? I was like, oh, that's not tea. That sounds gross.

My mind's blown. Iceed tea. Yeah. I thought that was just a cocktail. Wow, okay. Learning lots today. There you go. Wow.

I am baffled. Every week I am baffled by what you don't know. So, Dahlia has spiked Mike's tea with antifreeze. The police then asked Mike if there was ever an incident with iced tea, and he went, oh yeah. Wait, so how do they know she did this? Because she told Mohamed, Mohammed, Mohammed told police.

And the police were like, have you ever, was there anything any... Yeah, ever taste funny? And he went, yes, actually. It had no alcohol in it. It's so weird. Yeah, I didn't get drunk at all. Yeah.

He said, she brought me back an ice tea from Starbucks once and I took one sip and spat it out because it tasted like petrol. She got the wrong type. You got a very specific type that doesn't have a taste. Yeah, you said it.

It was tasteless. After that one sip, he was ill. She must have overloaded this iced tea because he had one sip which he spat out and he was ill for two weeks after that. But because it was around the time, he hadn't connected it to the iced tea

because it was around the time he had his liposection surgery. So he thought it was like a bad reaction to just surgery. And also he spat it out so you wouldn't think. Exactly. So it must have been like, like really a lot, the percentage would have been high. Dahlia denies ever poisoning Mike, just for the record. Okay, so Dalia's in jail.

From jail, she calls Mike begging him for help with getting... Sorry, it may be my fault for interrupting. But have I missed when she actually got arrested? So she got arrested, the minute Mike appears, they're like, you're arrested. So all of this has been... Secret, secret, secret, secret. Secret, secret. But they didn't really need to do the whole faking his...

Like they already had all the evidence from all those secrets. But they don't, well, no, because they needed her saying it. So they needed footage of her arranging the hit. They needed her paying for the gun. Yeah. But they didn't, they couldn't just take Mohammed's word for it. Because it's one. No, but once they've got all those recordings of her in the car with the police.

Yeah, they probably didn't need to parade mic in front of him. They didn't need to do the whole performance. But that's just a nice little, uh, of like a fake crime scene. Yeah. And then they really went full. But the footage is good stuff. It is good. But I think a TV producer intervened was like, you know what?

We'll pay for the fake crime. Well, it's funny you should say that because the minute Dahlia was arrested, the footage of her being told that Mike was dead, like the police released that video for literally no reason and it immediately goes viral. Right, and that's why it doesn't have to be blurred or anything. Well, also, it doesn't have to be blurred.

They still need to get her permission. So what they did was, when she came into the police station, all the interviews are recorded. And they said, we need you to sign this because the interviews are recorded. And then she actually initially does say, I don't want it to be recording. They're like, it's protocol. Like, we have to record it.

And we need you to sign away. Kind of fucked up. And what she was actually signing is the waiver for cops. That's not okay. It's not okay. That's not okay. It's not. But, like, an attempted murderer, but that is not.

okay. Thank God she did because we've got some phenomenal footage. This feels like one of those like have you watch white bear black mirror? Hmm. You know when like the walls just fall away and it's an audience? And it's like an audience and they're like woooo! It does whiff of that doesn't it?

Yeah. Yeah so she's begging Mike to help her get a lawyer which is so rich. It's like calling up the victim and saying hey can you help me get a lawyer to get off of it? Yeah. Also just too late. She professes her innocence and tries to reassure him

that she still loves him she would never have tried to kill him this is all a misunderstanding and so what happened was when there was this whole It's a shame she did commit a crime because the acting skills I feel like she's giving

Hold on Oh is it bad Wait till you see the video When she's told that he's dead She starts crying before the detective has finished his sentence Like it is the worst acting I've ever seen. Don't preempt it. It's terrible. You've got, you, acting is reacting. Exactly. She was

not Meisnering it at all. That's, okay. So I was like, she would have really impressed these TV producers. Could have had a whole other career. Yeah. Okay. No, no. No. So when they were, I really want to watch it now. It's really good. I'll wait. When they were arranging, if you cast your mind back to, they're frustrated that they can't move anywhere and they want to go traveling. And so they decide to pay off the restitution early. So when all of them, that is happening um dahlia suggests that they sign that mike sign over his house to her so that it looks like he has less money i guess and for whatever reason and he does it he signs it over to her so that his house is in her name but in florida there's some rule where uh even if it's signed

over to somebody else if she wants to resell it he has to give permission so he does have some Hold over it. But it's essentially it's in her name. So Mike says, if you sign over the townhouse back to me, I'll help you. I'll get you a lawyer. I'll do what you like. Why would he do that? Because he wants his house back. Right. Um, she says, nah, you're all right. And then he goes, he replies, I just offered to help you and you have the balls to say no to me. You just said, fuck you, which is ridiculous considering what happened today. Today, I think it's the same day. Yeah, which I think is totally fair. Wow.

So while Dahlia was being interviewed, police searched her car and found a Prada bag with $7,500 worth of jewelry, her $26,000 engagement ring which, and so she kept, basically everything of like worth

that she owned was in her car and they figured out it was to keep it nice and safe because she didn't want it being taken in the fake robbery. So, if that's not suss, I don't know what it is. After Dahlia is arrested, oh, I've told you that, it goes viral.

Okay, so now we're into the trial. This is where it gets hot. I love a trial. American trials are incredible. The theatre of it is so good. Well, it's because they're like cameras. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, UK try.

Whereas we have to deal with just drawings. But when you see, like, when you see like an ITV drama that's set in a courtroom, it is dry. Like, I love a courtroom drama, don't get me wrong, but there is definitely, America do it so much better. Like, we're wearing the silly wigs, we've got to be very proper, it's all like, you know, but in America they're like, yaha! And then they just really go for it, don't they? They're like, yeah, they do. They get so emotive. Yeah, yeah, that's a direct quote. Oh my God, have you watched The Lincoln Lawyer? No, I haven't. Oh, okay, it's just a little recommendations on Netflix, it's an American courtroom. Oh, great.

Drama. I'm all over it. Okay, anyway, so we're at the trial. The trial prosecutor says, I've never had a case as a prosecutor that was so strong because obviously everything is on tape. So she is confident. Mike takes the stand,

and the obvious move for the defence is to try and use his shady past against him and support Dalia's claim that he's just hungry for reality TV fame. So basically her defences, that this was all a hoax and that they were putting a tape together to put out on YouTube

in the hopes that they would get some acting work off the back of it or that they would get a reality TV show out of it. So she's saying that her and Mike that Mike was in on it. Yes, exactly. And Mohamed. Even though Mike's like, I've never met Mohammed in my life.

And there's no evidence. And when she was interrogated, she never once mentioned. that this is she's not like whoa whoa whoa guys this is all uh he's on on it ask him he's in on it too she never she just says i didn't do anything i didn't do anything right so it's just like a clutching at straws defense i think um but mike on the stand is incredible he's so likable um it really fucks their whole plan to like use his dodgy past against him uh the he like immediately holds his hands up and says, I'm a convicted felon. I go to probation every month to report. I try and hold my head

up as high as I can. But the defense is really like, he's like a dog with a bone. He keeps mentioning that Mike is on probation. And finally, Mike responds, you're like a parrot. And the defense attorney says, a parrot. And he goes, yeah, did you do that on probation? Were you on probation then? Did you do this on probation? And then he goes, I'm just having some fun with you to the defense attorney. The jury laugh. He's got him laughing. Okay, that's always good. It's a big hit.

This is how he got away with the cops thinking drugs might be in his car. He is a suave guy. Like, he is very, he's funny about it. But obviously, because it's like, it's a ridiculous situation. Well, and also, they have the confidence of all the evidence. Yeah, exactly. They're quite relaxed. So the defence lawyer responds, you're having fun with me?

And he goes, yeah. And then the defence lawyer says, let me ask you, is this fun, Mr. DiPillard? And Mike's like, this sucks. It's ridiculous. We're not here because of me, which is like such a good response. And I think that's sort of the nail in the coffin for Dahlia. The prosecution then introduce a new character, Mike Stanley. He's another friend of Dahlia's and they pull up texts between Mike and Dahlia where they discuss planting the drugs in Mike's truck. They then move on to what their life will be like together after Mike's out of the way. She'll have the house and his car and all of his money. They're going to have a lovely time

together. Then their convo gets very saucy. And the poor detective has to read out aloud in court all of these texts between them, which seems, I mean, I know it's like for context or whatever that they were obviously in like a very steamy, no, this is Mike, this is a new guy. So she had multiple people on the go um and but he's also called mike yeah mike stanley yeah oh my god multiple mics multiple mics it's there's footage of the detective reading out the texts and it is so funny how how like cringy he is doing it oh it's so embarrassing i feel like we need to start writing all texts like they could be read out and court yeah keep that in mind keep that in mind the prosecution takes the jury through the murdered for hire plot, shows them all the videos and then rests its

case. The defence used the same videos but paint a very different picture. Her lawyer declares to the jury that Mike was in on the whole thing. It was all a hoax. They were trying to get a reality TV show made. She knew it was all being filmed. And then they're like, okay, so if you knew it was being filmed, why is your face not like very clearly visible in the video? Like, it's a terrible shot. So there's one shot of just the back of the seat. So if you were filming this for the purposes of being then recognised off the back of it, you'd probably angle the cameras a little bit better. Like, it's a very weak defence, I think. Um, it's such a classic. It's like, yeah, I knew. I knew the whole time. Yeah, exactly. I knew you were doing that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm in on

it. So Dalia doesn't testify in her trial and after three hours of deliberation, the jury finds Dalia guilty of solicitation to commit murder. She is in complete shock. She never thought she would lose. She is sentenced to 20 years. And then Mike is interviewed afterwards and asked how he feels and he replies, I'm 5,000% happy with it.

Lovely little call back from Mike. He is a comedian. He's great. This isn't game over though. Three years later, Dalia's conviction is overturned in the Court of Appeals. her lawyer argues there is a problem with jury selection so in 2016 we go again we get to do it all over again second trial uh his 5,000 percent line won't work as well again yeah he can't reuse that no he's

going to have to write some new material he's got time though dali has been on house arrest for nearly six years so she's got a new defense team very shiny like exactly what you expect from a defense team uh but new defense during the second trial they dropped the reality TV defense and placed blame onto the Boynton Police Department, claiming they got the TV show cops in because they wanted to be famous themselves. And then that's why they released the footage as soon as she was arrested and everything was a bit overly theatrical. Like they didn't need to do, exactly what you said.

They didn't need to do all of it. No, but I feel like cops would be like, yeah, we were in there. Dalia's lawyer drops the bomb that if you convict Dalia, you'll be separating a mother. from her infant child. So she's had a baby with a maintenance man whilst on house arrest. He also has a very long rap sheet. I guess it would have to be...

Someone comes to you. It's either a maintenance man or a delivery. Yeah, exactly. Deliveroo driver. Wow. She's really living all the porn fantasies. She really is. So trial two, the jury are deadlocked three to three

and the case is declared a mistrial. So we go for round three. 2017. Well, I think the problem is that they didn't get Mike to take the stand on this one. And I think he was really the deciding factor in the first trial. They, I think the prosecution get overly confident in the second trial that they don't need him. It's such an open and shut case. And then that sort of bites them because it's a mistrial. Right. So 2017, round three. Mike is back on the stand. The jurors then take 90 minutes. to declare Dahlia guilty. Wow. And she's sentenced to 16 years in prison. What is this charm Mike has? And how do I get it?

He, honestly, I'll show you some videos. I want some of that stage presence, please. He can really, well, he did so well, like, he's clearly a salesman, like, as we know. Like, he's... Why? He made a lot of money. Some of his wheelie dealing coming out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a cheeky chapie. She will be released in 2032, which is ironically the same year that Mike's probation was a really, originally set to end. So his 28-year probation. So has he been freed now?

Oh, I don't know specifically. But I would be surprised if one or two... That's kind of annoying that like they get to be free at the same day when she did... Well, he's done quite a few TV interviews. I would be surprised if he hasn't paid it off. Right. I would be really surprised. It's such a good story and there's so much more.

There's also like there's a whole hoax where, um, they get like a message that Dahl, like a threatening message that's all set up and they, they try, she tries to frame a police mat. Like there's loads more, there's so much more. Dalia has tried to appeal again and it made it all the way to the US Supreme Court but they refused to retry the case. And by 2017, Mike, oh, here we go.

I did know. Oh, by 2017, Mike had paid off the restitution, got engaged and was looking forward. to a new life. Oh, that's nice. After the first trial, prosecutor Elizabeth Parker wrote a book called Poisoned Candy, where she describes Dahlia as

poisoned candy, sweet, delicious, mouth-watering on the outside, but deadly within, and designed to cripple the innocent. Okay. Which is... Sounds like... Quite salacious, isn't it?

Yeah. I was like, chill out, Elizabeth. Yeah, like, okay. Um... We get it. You think she's hot. She's not going to sleep with you. unless you come to her. So because it was filmed as part of cops,

there is footage of her getting the news about Mike and she starts crying, obviously. There is also footage of Mike being told that his wife has hired a hitman. And they do it. So obviously they do it at 6am when she's gone off to the gym and is thinking that the hitman is coming to do business. Yeah.

And instead the police turn up. So 6 a.m. He's been in bed. like recovering from surgery he looks like he's just woken up and then they're like oh hi and they immediately shake his hand they're like you're not in trouble don't worry but your wife has hired someone to kill you they couldn't have like given him i don't know they could have been like hey can we come in let's sit down let's make a tea or just like told him a few days before oh they'd worry he'd give it away well they just needed to like yeah they needed him not to know and then to

whisk him away. Got you, got you. So he, and he literally like stumbles back when he hears it and then he sits down on his steps. Like, it is really interesting to watch him get that news. Because imagine, that's like the most shocking news. Your wife of six months has hired someone to try and kill you and you've just woken up. That is the worst news to hear. Um, and that's a story of how Mike DiPolito survived.

I didn't know that one. You didn't. Like bits of it sounded familiar. but I didn't know it. I had no idea where that was going. What are you putting in the survival toolkit? It's a tricky one. I mean, should we weigh up options?

Yeah, what do you think? I guess a camera crew. A camera crew would work, yeah. And Mohammed, we all need a Mohammed in our lives. What else was the anti-freezed with taste? Yeah, helped out. Yeah. What really made him survive, though?

I mean, it was Mohammed. I guess some text receipts help as well. Keep your receipts. Screenshots really do save a life. And then a fully fledged Hollywood production crew, I guess, wouldn't go amiss. Yeah, yeah. Or just like a little mic, a little GoPro. I like the camera crew.

I like the little... Do they fit in the bag? I don't know how they're going to fit in the bag. Maybe just the equipment. We don't need someone to man it. So maybe we should just say a video camera. Okay, perfect. Now can we please watch the video?

I want to hear some listener stories. Listener stories. Oh, my sister's finally sent hers in. Oh, amazing. Hi Abby and Julia loving the podcast and I've listened to every episode so far you have to you're related to me

but thanks for not skipping one Thank you yeah Here is my much requested skiing Oh she's put in a word I can't say Have a go have a go go go go go Go on I've got it sound it out I've worked out I've just took a moment

Here is my much requested skiing Escapades. Oh, okay. Well, we were all expecting something more difficult than that, let's be honest. My brain just couldn't make sense of it. Reading is hard sometimes.

It is hard sometimes. I went on a skiing trip with my university friends to Lapland, Finland. I was a beginner and had only ever skied on bunny or blue slopes. So to put some context here, our family have never gone skiing.

Never gone on skiing holidays, never gone on ski trips. She's never skied in her life. But her friend, she's really good friends with someone from Finland. Ski-ins all the rage. Yeah. This is her first ever ski trip ever. Oh my God.

She hasn't even put her feet in skis before this. Okay. We did go on a toboggan at the Snowdome, though, in Birmingham. Oh my God, how good is this? And I had a traumatic story there. It always comes back to me. The tagline for the podcast. Should I tell that now or later?

No, let's hold on to that. Let's save it. Okay. So, I was a beginner, understatement, and had only ever skied on bunny or blue slopes. My friends wanted to increase the difficulty and head up the ski lift to the top of the slope. This was a red slope, an intermediate in difficulty.

I went along with this plan, but once at the top of the mountain, I had a horrible gut feeling of dread and knew I was not ready. The social pressure to keep up the rest of the group and my poor decision-making skills combined to push me forward and ignore my growing fear. After starting my descent and falling behind the other people in my group, I quickly started accelerating out of control and panicked. I lost my balance and fell backwards onto a rock-solid

layer of compacted snow and ice. The impact was sudden and jolting. The pain was immediate all over my back and I knew something was wrong. Another hint was that I couldn't get up. It's my sister, I'm allowed to laugh. Sure. Yeah. Also, she's fine, everybody. She's fine. My body was going into a shock response and all I could do was lie on the freezing ground as skiers and snowboarders zoomed by. That's the worst part, the humiliation of other people just skiing past you. Yeah. Also, I'd be paranoid that they're going to like run me over. Yeah. Um, also why didn't any of them just stop? Yeah, that's, that's not good, is it?

Not good ski etiquette. I started shivering all over and the chill was seeping through my ski pants and jacket. My friends had no- That makes us sound like she's pissed herself. No, it's seeping in, not sleeping out. Sorry, yeah. My friends had noticed my predicament and made their way back up as best they could. I don't think you can go back up.

No, I don't think ski slopes work like that. I think they're a down-only kind of situation. I mean, I've never been, but that's my guess. They need to get back on the lift, I think. A kind passer-by realized that it was serious, thank you, and reassured me that they would notify the rescue team at the bottom of the slope, but they were going to fuck off. Oh, that looks bad.

See ya. I'll let someone know if I have time, you know, if I remember. I really want to get a couple more runs in before the sun goes down. I'll see if I can squeeze it in. The response was highly efficient and I was soon rescued by a man on a snowmobile and a stretcher attached as a trailer on the back. That doesn't sound good.

Doesn't sound comfortable. No, that feels like that's going to bounce. I was carefully placed on the stretcher secured using straps and snowmobiled down the mountain. All I could do was look up at the blanket of grey sky. I was dropped off at a mini clinic at the ski resorts. and transferred onto a medical bed. I was given strong painkillers and a cup of water with a straw.

That's nice. It's the details, isn't it? I like a straw. Yeah. You really hate turtles, don't you? What? Yeah, actually, paper straws suck. They do.

They can go. Yeah, I hate metal straws as well. I hate that taste. I don't like drinking out of metal. Also, like, that's never going to keep clean. Yeah. Stick it in the dishwasher, it's probably fine. Yeah.

But I can't even remember, no, okay. Bring back plastic straws is what Abby's saying. If we could bring back one plastic thing, I think I would vote for the straw. Really? Yeah. Do you use straws that much that is a hindrance to your life

not to have the plastic straw? Yeah. Wow. I like only drink drinks that you really want to drink out of straw. Or actually, you know it would be easier. Just stop putting so much fucking ice in my drink. I can't get past it.

You can't control that. You could ask, you can ask for no ice. I have seen that done. Yeah, but I'd rather just a straw. Because also when you pose with it, kind of gets you cheap bones. Oh, here we go. That's what it comes down to. Back to my sister.

Ugh. She's so a tension see, no. Okay. So, she's looking up at the blanket of grey. Oh, no, no, she's on painkillers. Okay. She was given painkillers and a cup of water with a straw. sorry, it's in first person.

I, that's how I prefer it. I was given to strong painting killers and a cup of straws. So glad you read this before record. It's almost like I really know the story. Okay. I actually have never found out the full story. Neither have I at this point.

Yeah, I'm getting there. A cup of water and a straw. I'm so glad you kept the detail. So, I only needed to move my head. There you go. Also good in medical situations. So, yeah. After some time, I was able to recover from the shock

and gain some more feeling in my body. Thankfully, I realised I had not damaged my spinal cord and had nerve response in both legs. I later had an x-ray at the local ski hospital and found that I had fractured one of my vertebrae. Unfortunately, the injury cut the skiing short for me, but my friends went for another day on the slopes while I spent the day on the phone.

to the travel insurance reps. There is no NHS in Finland from an idyllic little log cabin. What would you do? If you're on holiday with your friends and one gets quite badly injured, are you like, oh, that's a... I'd come up with a rotor system

where everybody has to spend an hour with them throughout the day, you can watch a film, whatever, but everybody has to do their time. I actually think that is the best... That's a really solid plan. Thank you. As we had taken an overnight train to the resort from Helsinki,

I was able to get a bunk bed for the journey back. My God, she'd got on train. Sorry, what is her fractured vertebra? Oh, fuck. That was horrible. It's quite serious. Yeah. Do they, what do they do?

Strap you up? Strap up your body? Well, she can't cast it, surely. She lay in a bunk bed instead of sitting in a seat. Okay. Luxury, she says. what a positive person she's really low standing us really putting a positive spin on this she's the middle child can you tell oh okay so she's happy with the bare minimum

and she's your sister so hey she's my brothers too attention was hard to get it was it still is I do we all we all feel bad for Emily oh she really got she's also really written this so well she's the most supportive sister Yeah. She's very nice. I'm very impressed. She's a top quality middle child. You know, she doesn't ask for too much.

She stands back. She lets us do our thing. Yeah. She'll write in a story, help me out. Love that. Thanks, Emily. You're doing God's work, Emily. I mean, my brother is the oldest, than me below.

We're all actors. Well, yeah, I'm not an actor, but, yeah, parents, actors, Stuart actor. I'd say Stuart's more attention seeking than me. Really? Yeah. Okay. And then Emily, the ecologist. Just chilling in the middle.

Thank God. Thank God for some balance in the family. Someone's got to listen to the podcast, you know? We can't all just make podcasts. Yeah. My brother does have a podcast. Does he? Yeah.

What's his podcast about? Pokemon. No. It's actually. Yeah. So I'm the coolest sibling. Jesus, I really didn't think you would be the coolest one. I know.

So it's a role play Pokemon podcast. Fuck off. Fuck off. Not kidding. Fuck all the way off. Not kidding. Oh my God. It's called Critical Ditter.

That's your kind of thing. Are you making this up? I'm not making it. Very true. Oh my God. So don't be too mean. It's good to have an interest. It is good.

Oh, and boy, does he have an interest. His daughter is called Evie after the Pokemon. Oh, well, well, she's lucky she got Evie. That could have gone way worse. Could have been like Charamanta. Literally the only Pokemon I could think of. The Squirtle. That would have been worse.

You cannot go to school being called Squirtle. Good God. I think it's worse to go to uni called Squirtle. That's worse. That's worse as an adult, I'd say. Well, there you go. If you're a Pokemon fan. If you're a Pokemon fan.

Happy's Brothers podcast. It's been going longer than this one. I think they just. A lot of nerds out there. They need... Nerds who like improv. It's a subset, so... There really is a podcast for everyone, isn't that?

Yeah, okay. So, back to my sister. Oh, sorry, sorry, Emily. Once again, you've been put on the back burner for your two more attention-seeking siblings and I'm so sorry, I can only apologise. This is your moment, Emily. Okay.

So she's on the overnight. train. She's on a bunk bed. It's best her life been. She's just happy to have a room to herself, to be honest. Yeah. Right. When I flew home, my parents, my parents, came to pick me up at the airport and didn't know if I would come out of the terminal in a wheelchair or not. So let's do this. I feel like I want this story written in from my parents' point of view because they were very stressed. Oh, of course. I wasn't really fully aware of this because. because, you know, I was too busy thinking about myself. No, I was a bit younger and no one really shared it with me.

Oh, okay. Slash, maybe I was away at uni. I can't remember. All I remember is that one of them had to go pick her up from the airport with the seats down so that she could lie across in the back. And then they like drove really slowly trying to not to like bump it. Yeah. And that is all that I know of this story.

Okay. Um, but they were also so annoyed that she went anywhere near a slope having to ever ski. Like, yeah, but she's on a ski holiday. What else is she going to do? But like, stay on the beginner slope. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My dad has a catchphrase in our, in our house and it's, Emily! That's what it is, and it's always when she does something. He's like, why are you doing that? I mean, it's not quite garlic bread, but I guess it's. I, you have to, he really, he says it the exact same way every time. Poor Emily, Jesus Christ, she's literally the forgotten one in the middle.

Your dad has a catchphrase specifically about her doing something wrong. But she just makes, Emily, it's time to do your podcast, okay? And I want to hear it. I am here for your podcast. She makes some strange decisions sometimes. Right. That are difficult to understand. I feel like Emily's going to write a manifesto one day.

but it's like it's like in cartoons where like there's that character that always like does a prank yeah yeah yeah and then they like oh is it no it's not dennis the man is i know what you mean though you know what i mean yeah there's like there's that kid that always does like a little prank and then the person like the episode always ends with them being like emily yeah yeah yeah but she just seemed It seems like of the three of you, from the stories that you've told so far, it seems like she is the least likely to warrant the Emily. No, no, because with me and my brother, we will never resist telling you we're going to do it before we do it. Oh, I see, so she's like a sneak attack. You can be real aware of what's going on with me and my brother, because we kind of like talk about it on our podcasts.

Because you're like, look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me, I'm going to do this. Whereas my sister has a real stealth mode. Yeah, I don't blame her. I absolutely don't blame her. Just out of nowhere. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if my parents hadn't even known she was on a skiing holiday.

And then just get a call out nowhere, like, oh, yeah, so I think I've broke my back. Like, just out of nowhere. And my dad would be like, oh, like. Sounds like she just has, like, cries for help. Remember me? I'm still here too. Oh, sorry, Emily. needs to be cut, that is long.

Anyway, so she arrived at the airport, my parents didn't know she's going to turn up in a wheelchair or not. The lesson here was to listen to your gut feeling and allow this to trump peer pressure, even if you feel like you're being awkward. In the voice of Gino DeCampo, seriously, Emily, why? Yes, Emily. Go on, in the voice of Gino DeCampo.

Oh, my God. No, no. I could have had a nice day in the resort cafe. I could have had a hot chocolate. Why is that in Gino de Campo's voice? Have I missed something? It's as if Gino's in the room. I won't be skiing again.

Can you do the rest of it in the room? Smiley face. Emily. Emily! Thank you, Emily. That was very good. She's like fine now. Apart from the emotional.

Yeah. Yeah. But like, she's doing. But the back's fine. The back is. is okay her this week's random thing she sprung on her so she started fostering cats that's so nice but like I'll know her and like she 100% won't be able to give this cat back how many cats I just got a WhatsApp picture of a cat oh okay just with the text shall I actually read this is this is how

I get informed of it this this will give you a good idea of my sister and her vibe so yesterday at 511 I got a message that just said got a cat and then just this picture that is a cat and then and then she said i don't want to give her back she is a supermodel i will call her giji and i said well you're going to have to so she's just adopted a cat is what's happening and then i was like well you're going to have to give the cat back i don't i don't even think she's going to have that's where she lives oh i think i think the loophole she's found her is she doesn't have a cat she's fostered oh i see technically not her responsibility i think she's taking a leaf out my book with the whole borrow my doggy thing

Okay, I see. And I said, well, you're going to have to give it back. She's only your first one so far. And she just went, yeah, it's bad. Oh, lovely. So that's our relationship. Well, if you have a worst case scenario, or you just want to send Abby pictures of your cat, I guess.

Actually, don't, please, we can't have, we can't be in undated with pictures of cats. I wouldn't mind. I already get quite a lot of dog ones. Then you can send it to Abby's personal email address, which is, Got a cat at catcats.com But please send us your worst case scenarios

to help at wcspod.com Bye? Bye. Is that it? I guess. Bye. That's it. Bye.

Do you want to survive another week from one? Oh. The catchphrase. Oh yeah. Emily! Emily! No, our catchphrase. Yeah.

Hope you survive. Another week. Bye. Later. by an angry shark struck up a mountain in the dark pushed up the top of a big landmark hit by lightning in your local park caught in the downpour of acid rain struck by meteorola train A proton beam passes through your brain attacked by that angry shark again Hear how they survive

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