Worst Case Scenario with Abi Clarke and Julia Stenton - Day 17 - Brandy and Brandon Wiley

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

Newlyweds Brandy and Brandon Wiley were looking for adventure when they quit their jobs, sold all their posesions and set out for Costa Rica with only their lives in their backpacks. Two days later th...ey were lying injured deep in the South American jungle amongst the fuel soaked wreckage of a plane crash.What happens next? Listen as Julia tells Abi all about Brandy and Brandon's worst case scenario! Send in your own worst case scenario to help@wcspod.com and please follow the podcast on Instagram @wcspod for video extras.Theme tune by the brilliant Crizards who can be found on Instagram @crizards Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Get attacked by an angry shark Stuck up a mountain in the dark Pushed off the top of a big landmark Hit by lightning in your local park Caught in a downpour of acid rain Struck by meteor or a train A proton beam passing through your brain Attacked by that angry shark again
Starting point is 00:00:17 Hear how they survive Trappled by a herd of buffalo Chaste with an axe by your new friend Joe Burried alive in a pile of snow It's not the worst case scenario. Are we doing like a high welcome? I don't know. That's probably going to be the intro now.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Neil's going to make that the intro. Oh. I look horrible. Why is podcast a visual medium? I mean. It's meant to be audio only. Hi. Abbie's in a great mood today.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I'm fine, okay? Her positivity is just overwhelming. Welcome to the podcast. I'm done being the chipple one. I'm done. I'm done. I'm changing my persona to tired and not showered and didn't have time to put her makeup on. This is, you're listening to a. post-Edinburgh where
Starting point is 00:01:28 if I haven't mentioned already my voice is fucked apologies for that Julia Abby can't string a sentence together Julia's ill still yeah oh that rhymed so she will sneeze and cough throughout this episode
Starting point is 00:01:44 Jesus Christ that is the biggest mug I've ever seen in my life Julia has a mug the size of her head and that is not an exaggeration that needs to be screenshoted and put on the Instagram immediately that's too big you're too small I can't tell if that mug's big or you're just small. It is a big mug. It is a big mug.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Is that just like some kink for you? You're just like, well, I'm so tiny. I put my, I put my sweaters over my wrist and I have my huge mug. No, I just, is not what that is. I just like large volumes of tea at any given time. And you need a big mug for that. It's not a, that's a flower pot. That's not a mug.
Starting point is 00:02:25 It is quite big. That's plant pot. Did you paint that yourself? I did. Yeah, I can tell. God, I'm real aggie today. You are ugly today. Okay. Let's go on with it.
Starting point is 00:02:39 We're back. We're back from Edinburgh. I've perked up a little bit. We're doing this at the end. So we've warmed up. We're back in it. We're back here. If you're new here, it's not always like this. No, it's never like this.
Starting point is 00:02:51 This is not. This is abnormal. Let's just, let's stop. Let's do it again. can we recast me is that an option i'm not going to suggest that because everybody would oh stop it um this is worst case scenario the podcast where we tell what this right now or this is my worst case scenario right now um yeah we tell survival stories if you're new here hi welcome um follow us uh but maybe listen to another episode first you probably
Starting point is 00:03:25 Don't judge us on this. You can also find us on Instagram, TikTok at WCS pod where we post all the pictures that go along with the episode. So I swear to God, if you post a visual of me right now, I'm going to kick off, right? I'm screenshoting left, right and centre, mate. I've got all sorts. It literally was 10 minutes before the episode and I was like, wait, are we doing video? And I was like, yeah, and I said, kill me.
Starting point is 00:03:55 and no one responded i think everyone was actually quite worried yeah i mean but i'm back new housemates in oh really she's next door she's she's hearing all of this oh wow what an intro yeah no do you want to know the worst intro this is my intro to her this was my intro okay so this is my story this is my this is my story um i got a text in the group chat should i actually read it verbatim the house group chat Yeah. So I didn't see her work. Because like she, so for context, she's moved in while I was in Edinburgh. And then I moved back. And the day I got back on Monday, she was stuck in Sweden because of all the flight issues. And so then she doesn't get back until late Wednesday. Oh no, so I got back. When did I get back? Anyway, that's irrelevant. She's back Wednesday. And I get a text saying, hey, just noticed a tampon on the floor in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:04:53 guessing it missed the bin ha ha oh my god oh my god oh my god and I guess you can't you can't deny
Starting point is 00:05:04 because people are either on their period or they're not and no one else on their period I'll be honest you'd not expect this thing this way this is my introduction
Starting point is 00:05:14 to this new girl and she's in I say oh shit and then to make this worst studio I was on a date Stop it
Starting point is 00:05:27 I had a boy around We were watching a movie And I had to just go I'd just be like I just have to go do something And then I had to just Because she was like I thought You know just because also we have a guest
Starting point is 00:05:44 And so then I had to like run upstairs And it was, it was just there It was behind the bin It clearly I'd clearly overshot it I'd overshot it. It was just like a fully used full blood on the floor. I had not noticed it was behind the bin. And then I had to put it back in.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And then I had to go back down and just be like, la-da-da. And they were like, what was that? I was like, no. Had the date been to the toilet yet? No. Oh, thank God. Lucky escape. Lucky escape.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I don't think actually. Now I'm overthinking it. That would be my first question. as soon as I got that text oh fuck well they hadn't said anything the first person to say anything was I don't think I'm I haven't had permission to say her name on the podcast yet
Starting point is 00:06:29 she just do you know she remains anonymous we are protecting her identity but yeah that's that's that's her first impression of me wow I hope your date is listening to this episode because if you didn't know it was there before yeah he will be
Starting point is 00:06:45 he's obviously like now immediately obsessed with me so he'll be listening to every single episode. Well, good. Welcome. Well, that was nice of her to text you. I was like, I don't want to be that one in the house chair. I didn't want this to be my role.
Starting point is 00:07:03 You've become, yeah. First meeting as well. That's really funny. Oh, God. I'm like, I wasn't even that hot, so she's judged me for that too. That's a joke. I just saw a space for a joke and I wanted to do it. I see
Starting point is 00:07:19 This is exciting though That's an exciting What Being on a day You know these don't go well for me I know I was going to say Well this I was so Being on a date means no
Starting point is 00:07:32 I was half expecting the date story To be the disaster part Oh my God I found out buddy's moving No That's so sad He's moving to the beach is he retiring what's happening he might have died he might be lying to me oh god is he going to a farm
Starting point is 00:07:56 a special farm in the sky he's going he's going to live his beach dog life and uh it's great for him but it's terrible for me so my life is wide open i've come back from edinburgh a broken woman i have nothing and i'm open to dates to dogs she is wide open great well should we get on with her let's do it
Starting point is 00:08:19 but you guys you guys go ahead you go on without us enjoy what we've done we'll see you with you it's a vibe okay okay I feel like you're really going to appreciate
Starting point is 00:08:35 the names in this story because it's about a newly married couple called Brandon and Brandy Wiley. No, I hate it. That's disgusting. Get your own name. Hasn't that got like Disney film written all over it?
Starting point is 00:08:55 Brandon and Brandy. I guess that's Disney in the way of like Disney Channel. That's not Disney movie. That's Disney Channel. That's like Brandy and Brandon and they live in a house together and they got a dog and they go out and they solve crimes in the neighbourhood and have a lemonade sand you know yeah you've essentially just told the story um it's how brandon and brandy survive the lemonade stand um okay i must stress brandon
Starting point is 00:09:26 and brandy are grownups they are adults uh in this story are they siblings or are they fucking um they are married so but it is you know it's yeah you didn't answer my question yeah It actually didn't specify in the articles that I've read. So, question mark. We do know for sure they are married. Okay. It's such a weird vibe. I feel like I'm like this drunk, disgruntled man at the end of the bar this week.
Starting point is 00:10:05 You really have got that. I got some stories for your kid. life will let you down let me tell you this is going to be a long episode God if I'm relied on to bring the cheer then we're really fucked
Starting point is 00:10:22 yeah you're going to bring the cheer this week come on right I'm warming up I'll get there okay cool you just talk yeah okay right so newlyweds Brandon and Brandy Wiley
Starting point is 00:10:33 are on the trip of a lifetime the two were high school sweethearts slash siblings until brandy moved away in seventh grade but they reunited in college and married soon after Brandon is the adventurous one well brandy is more cautious I think brandy either of them are adventurous
Starting point is 00:10:54 they're dating the person they dated at high school Jesus gosh yeah true so six months after their wedding they decide to sell everything they own and set off travelling which is for me mental. That's a mental decision to make. So everything you wouldn't go travelling. I wish I was that
Starting point is 00:11:13 person. Many of the people do that though. I know. Doesn't that like Ben Fogel into the wild program where that's literally what they do? And then like... As if he sold everything he owns? What? No he doesn't. He goes visits people who do. Oh.
Starting point is 00:11:27 He visits them and they go like live out in like the middle of nowhere in like jungles or whatever and they like take their kids and then the kids are just like, I always feel bad for the kids i mean i don't know you can't judge but like they don't have school they don't have friends they're just like taken out into the wilderness they're like parents and it's just them on an island basically oh god and then they're just like self-sufficient and what are like the wild
Starting point is 00:11:52 thornberries do you remember the wild thornberries you too young for the wild stormberries oh fucking um the dad in the world this is you know this doesn't work if we're both the same vibe okay So they're going, the first stop on their big epic adventure is they're stopping off in Costa Rica. So it's 10 a.m. Brandon and Brandy are at San Jose Airport in Costa Rica. They're about to board a small aeroplane or puddle jumper. So they, they bought the small airplane to fly 100 miles to a small town on the edge of the Corkervado National Park.
Starting point is 00:12:35 is a 30 minute journey but brandy is not keen she's a nervous flyer and this tiny plane that you can't stand up straight in isn't helping brandon suggests uh they sit in the front row brandon it seems like is like an excitable puppy uh on this trip and brandy is like a nervous wreck so he suggests let's sit in the front row and she's like no uh at least the second row we can at least sit in the second row so they decide on the second row um regular puddle jumper michael packard boards the flight and sits across the aisle from brandon and brandy he's used to making this trip and immediately just gets his book out he's a pro he knows what he's doing the flight just so you can imagine it is two seats next to each other then an aisle
Starting point is 00:13:24 and then one seat so brandon and brandy are in the two seats there's an aisle michael's in the other seat okay brandy particularly hates takeoff so she concentrates on her breath as the plane lifts up into the air. They fly over mountains covered in dense jungle and so low level flight is very dangerous as you can imagine when the visibility is poor and it started off fine but clouds have now started to gather. Michael is used to these flights getting quite bumpy but he notices the pilots looking nervously through charts and maps and he realizes they are looking for coordinates which is not a
Starting point is 00:14:04 not going to fill you with confidence when the pilots are like freaking out at the front the clouds are thickening up and visibility is now making it impossible for the pilots to tell that they veered off course they're heading straight for the mountain the clouds disperse and tree tops suddenly rush into view and everyone screams
Starting point is 00:14:25 is pure panic in the puddle jumper Brandon recalls thinking we're not flying anymore we're going through these trees is this even happening Brandy says her stomach dropped and her mind went blank the plane is ripped apart
Starting point is 00:14:40 and the sound is deafening Brandy's first thought was you're not getting out of this which is all just fucking terrifying like this is a horror film so they've gone from seeing like clouds are getting a bit bumpy
Starting point is 00:14:54 to then all of a sudden all they can see is tree to and they're heading straight for it. But how quickly did this all happen? Very quickly. So the takeoff was fine, what she was scared. Takeoff was okay, yeah. Takeoff was fine.
Starting point is 00:15:08 They hit turbulence. Yeah. Then how long did they know they were going to die for? I don't know. I think all of this is like, this happens very, very quickly. So they go, so the cloud's set in. And then as soon as the cloud set in, the pilots can't see anything. So they're looking through for coordinates.
Starting point is 00:15:27 because they can't tell if they're still on course or not. Right. So they just drive into some clouds, fly. Well, the clouds set in. So, like, they were on course. Right. Clouds appear. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And then they don't know what course they're on. Then they just can't see where they're going. No. That's how clouds work. But is that how planes work? I thought they follow a little TV screen with a little, you know that you get when you're on the plane, you can check where the plane is.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I thought the pilots are just following same one right yeah they just they just follow that dotted line yeah a little sat nav come on plane doesn't have a sat nav well this is a oh wait this is the past and this is the past but it's not um they're also flying they're usually planes fly above the clouds this is flying underneath the clouds which is why it's more dangerous oh they're meant to be flying though yeah it's a yeah How do you meant to be doing that? I think it's because maybe it's something to do with it being such a short flight. And they're only going 100 miles.
Starting point is 00:16:35 So maybe it's more economic to fly below and more directly. I don't know. So they crash. Crash happens. Brandon comes to first. He's freezing cold and he's completely drenched in jet fuel. He can't move his legs and he looks over to Brandy who's covered him. blood. He shouts, Brandy, Brandy, can you hear me? As he shakes her violently until she wakes up.
Starting point is 00:17:02 He tells her, we're covered in fuel and have to get away from the plane. Which again, fucking nightmare. Jesus Christ. Brandy pulls herself up and clambers out of the plane. So she said she could see smoke, trees knocked down and a mess of plane parts and wires. She can also see the bodies of the two pilots who are still sat in the cockpit. Other passengers have started to crawl out of the wreckage. Brandon is still trapped inside and now fuel is gushing out, soaking the jungle around them. Suddenly, the cockpit bursts into flames. Brandon realizes the reason he can't move his legs is because they're being pinned down by another passenger,
Starting point is 00:17:45 Adolfo Strasberger, who sadly didn't survive the crash. When he hears Brandi call out that the plane is now on fire, Brandon hurries his effort, and manages to crawl out and away from the plane. Injured passenger Alvaro Zuniga is sat up against a tree and barely able to move having suffered extensive burns from the crash. He isn't far enough away from the plane so Brandy and Brandon run back to help him move. A safe distance away they can see the wreckage as a whole. The fuselage is upside down and the plane is almost entirely dismantled and bits strewn throughout the surrounding jungle. Had they sat in the front of the front of it, row, as Brandon had suggested, they definitely would have died.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I always consider where I'm going to sit. Is it apparently by the like wings is the safest? Why have I made that up? I swear like, like slap bang in the middle is like the safest. I swear that's what I've heard. But then you can't choose your plane seat if you have a book a plane. So like you just have to accept that you're either in a good spot or not. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:53 In these stories, that always blows my mind when it was like, there's always some kind of near-miss, isn't there? Like, oh, we decided last minute that instead of sitting on the front row, we'd sit on the second row. Or, you know, like, oh, we decided to go through this door instead of that door. And then, thank God we did, because otherwise we'd be dead. And that is why I'm an overthinker. Yeah, but you'd be there going. Because any decision could kill you, could literally kill you. You are?
Starting point is 00:19:22 You be there going. You'd be stood up because you wouldn't be able to decide which seat to sit in. I do think. I consider what seat to sit on the tube. I overthink that because I'm like, but what if this and what if that? And you know I've done extensive research into the London bombings, okay? I have. I know which seats were better.
Starting point is 00:19:43 So I overthink every decision ever in my life, Julia. Anything could be tough. Does that help? Does that help? Oh, no, I'm deeply miserable. Right. Okay. Brandy is a trained nurse and jumps into action
Starting point is 00:19:56 she works to assess everyone's injuries Brandon has broken with both So we're hearing from a lot of people here Meaning there's more Well we're hearing a lot of survivor testimonies We're still on Brandy and Brandon Yeah Yeah so there were other people in the plane
Starting point is 00:20:15 And book boy Sorry Bookboy Boy with book Yeah, Michael. Michael. Michael. Michael. He's, we've heard from him. So there's multiple survivors is what I'm. Yes, there are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Brandy's a nurse. She's checking everybody, seeing how she can help. Brandon has got broken bones around his eye and has a deep cut, has deep cuts to his arms that are badly bleeding. Another survivor, Silka Freebold, a German passenger who was traveling with Adolfo. So Adolfo was, the guy who was pinning down Brandon's legs on the plane. So Silka is relatively unharmed, but she was conscious for the whole crash. So she saw everything and can remember everything.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And she's clearly traumatized by witnessing the death of her friend. Brandon does a quick headcount and realizes that Michael is missing. Michael slash bookboy. Michael has woken up on his back looking up at the trees. He can't see the plane. He was thrown 200 feet, which, thanks for asking, is 60 metres or a 20-storey building or two blue whales. Yeah. That's pretty far.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Yeah. So he was thrown that far from the plane. With the help of a heavy dose of adrenaline, he manages to pull himself up. But despite having severed his Achilles tendon, which even saying that makes me feel sick. crushed here so he had a severedicalese tendon crushed eye socket four cracked ribs a punctured lung
Starting point is 00:21:54 and a partridge in a pear tree I guess he's hobbling through the forest when he hears Brandon and Brandy calling out his name he heads towards them as soon as they spot him they run over to help brandy assesses his wounds and is instantly concerned the likelihood of him having internal bleeding is very high
Starting point is 00:22:15 and that could kill him within hours so the clock is ticking for Michael Alvaro and Michael definitely don't have hours left Brandon can hear the planes
Starting point is 00:22:28 radio crackling he now faces the dilemma run towards the burning plane wreckage with fuel spilling out of it and fire threatening to turn the whole thing into a bomb at any moment
Starting point is 00:22:37 or miss the opportunity to make contact with potential rescuers what are you doing in that situation um she's going to consider both options for a long time i feel like you'd overthink the situation for so long that the plane is up right now the plane is going up in flames yeah like my decision's irrelevant because i wouldn't make it in time so yeah true okay so so you're you're missing your
Starting point is 00:23:10 opportunity to make context again then come on let's do it either he runs in whilst the plane is spewing out fuel and flames and it can go on he's covered in fuel right and he's covered he's drenched yeah um so either you risk that get to the radio try and make contact or you don't and then you don't make contact and then you're potentially fucked oh okay no i'd pick the radio You're going for the radio. I'm going for the radio. Otherwise, what's the point? Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Like, it's worth it. Like, I would die to get contact. Because if you don't get contact, you then have to survive in a jungle now. And I just really don't feel like it. I don't want to have to survive in a jungle. I've heard the stories. I've heard of the, you know, Julia, you know, the walking through the river in the jungle for a day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I don't want to do that. Yeah. I don't, I don't, and also then there's no even guarantee you survive that, you've just suffered for weeks and then you could just die anyway, it's worth the risk and having people know where you are. okay yeah good good choice good choice thank you I'm assuming they didn't do that um he does the same as you he decides to go for it so cautiously he approaches the cockpit navigating his way over the pilots to reach for the radio he grabs it and desperately calls out hello hello but quickly realizes
Starting point is 00:24:42 the radio is dead oh yeah isn't that a real fucker That's, well, it wasn't worth it, was it? No. Now, rain starts to set in, which is good for diluting the fuel and the threat of the jungle bursting into flames. That is good. And it does give them a chance to rehydrate. Also good. But, yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:25:13 No. No. Tongue out. Yeah. There you go. Yeah, they're just standing there. heads back, tongue's open, rehydrating.
Starting point is 00:25:25 A bit of ASMR. I think I should go into ASMR. Do you think so? Is that nice? Got my nails? Yeah, that's quite nice. I just don't like wet mouth noises, which I realise,
Starting point is 00:25:39 given my house not here, right now I'm probably making a lot of those. But that's what I don't like about the whispering of ASMR. Wasn't what in the whispering, Julia? Do you not like that? It's really creepy when you do it. Tell me, you feel good.
Starting point is 00:25:53 No, it makes me feel really uncomfortable. Please stop. It's the threat, the hover, just hovering on the mind. Yeah, I don't like it. Let me tell you a story. I'm survival. I think I'm good at this. Oh my God, you cannot go from whispering to that.
Starting point is 00:26:15 That's not fair. Sorry. I have two settings. I don't do in between. I mean, oh, God. Right, so it's raining. It's relentless rain. Sorry, we like that.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Yeah, that's better. That's better. They start to move the injured passengers, Alvaro, who is severely burnt, and every movement is agony, and Michael, who almost certainly is internally bleeding. They move them into the wreckage in an attempt to avoid them developing high. hypothermia because if they're out in the rain they've gone back into the wreckage they've gone so the fire's out the fire's out the rain's put the fire out um and yeah it's the only place where they can sort of keep warm or at least sheltered um this leaves no room for brandon brandy and
Starting point is 00:27:11 silker who are huddled outside the wreckage brandy said she felt a deep depression sat in the rain not knowing what to do which just must be so grim so horrible there's nothing worse than being wet i don't know i think maybe a plane crash is worse than just being wet they're just being cold and outside and wet and you can't get dry oh no not for me okay silka suddenly jumps to her feet she hears the sound of helicopter blades whirring overhead Brandon and Brandy jump up and start waving their arms and shouting, over here. The jungle is so dense and the plane's rescue beacon isn't working. So the helicopter has no idea it's flying right over the crash.
Starting point is 00:28:00 The survivors all cheer with relief because they're saved. No. The helicopter flies right past and relief turns to despair. Oh my God. They realize they have little chance of being found and the light is starting to dim. Brandon takes charge and decides they have to find some shelter to try and keep warm. Him and Selka head out away from the wreckage while Brandy stays to look after the others. Soon, Silka spots her suitcase that's open and her stuff is littering the jungle floor.
Starting point is 00:28:32 She's just been to Bali where she picked up lots of sarongs to sell in her shop back home. They gather them all up thinking they will be handy for bandages and warmth. Oh, yeah. And also, how chic. Bally. After filling up the bags, they decided... She tried to be a yoga teacher as well, just while she's there. She's like, guys.
Starting point is 00:28:53 She's ticking all the vacations. Yeah. After filling up the bags, they decide to head back. They look around, but the jungle looks the same in every direction. They can't tell which way they came from. Brandon said, it was amazing to me that we might have walked not even 50 yards, and the plane itself was entirely gone. They are completely lost.
Starting point is 00:29:15 and start to panic. Okay, Brandon desperately calls out for Brandy over and over again until finally Brandy returns his call. They follow her voice and make it back to the wreckage. Had they wandered any further out of earshot of Brandy, they could have easily been lost for good. Brandon said, it was extremely scary to see how fast the jungle
Starting point is 00:29:36 can swallow up an entire plane, five people, all of the wreckage. Michael, back to Michael, bookboy. He is now struggling to breathe. His broken ribs are grinding against each other and one of his lungs has collapsed. Yeah. He's in an incredible amount of pain.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Him and Alvaro are still propped up inside the wreckage. Alvaro can see his spirits are low so he tries to comfort him saying, It's okay, we'll be rescued tomorrow. Michael recounts how he was amazed by him trying to console me even through his own pain. You've got to keep morale high, right? What else can you do?
Starting point is 00:30:20 Brandy is very concerned that Michael isn't going to make it through the night, and it's becoming very clear any potential rescue efforts will be on hold until the morning. They have no way of drying off, and now the sun has set the temperature plummets. So they huddle together to keep warm, clutching their sarongs for warmth. With no light, there's a new fear to consider. Brandy said I can remember smelling blood having blood all over us
Starting point is 00:30:49 I knew the smell of blood was going to attract something Brandon added the smell of blood is so distinct and you could smell it above everything like obviously big animals are a huge threat in the jungle
Starting point is 00:31:04 and if they can smell something dying I'm pretty sure everything is a threat in the jungle I don't think there's anything you could come across and you'd be like Oh, cute. It's just a squirrel. It's harmless.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Yeah. No squirrels in the jungle. And if there were, they'd be poisonous. Yeah, definitely. Okay, they're frightened. Listening out for any sound. Brandy sees something disturb the leaves nearby. They realize there's something moving around them.
Starting point is 00:31:38 They can't see it, but it sounds big enough to be completely terrifying. When they hear it get closer, they scream out. at it and it moves away but it comes back they scream again and then it comes back hey bear hey bear hey bear hey bear oh it's bear oh I've just replaced girl with bear and And that's quality content. I like it. Who's that bear? Who's that bear?
Starting point is 00:32:21 It's Jess. Maybe we should put that in the Sliver Toolkit. The New Girl theme song. Yeah. But it's New Bear. Updated. I want to see a sitcom New Bear where a bear moves into a flat of men and kills them all.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Just rips them apart in the first. night. Bear just through a big broke up good good shit
Starting point is 00:32:50 has a hot hot bear friend crazy crazy fun in suits Schmidt's like you're making a mess Schmidt would die first of my insides
Starting point is 00:33:04 yeah 100% dies first so yeah new bear is available if anyone wants to get in touch I'll start
Starting point is 00:33:12 working on the pilot episode I don't see it because I know New Girl, you know, has history of being stolen, so New Bear, not at all related. Okay, so back to these terrified people in the jungle, very scared of the potential death. New Bears. So they're, rather than the like, hey bear, they're more going for, like, Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Brandon calls out to Alva and Michael both covered in blood and unable to move.
Starting point is 00:33:52 They scream again and the sound goes away. No one can fully relax at any point during the night. Brandon is aware that Michael is at risk of losing consciousness, so throughout the night everyone takes it in turns to call out to him and wake him up. They wouldn't let me sleep. Michael, are you there? Michael, Michael. I knew it was right, but I wasn't wanting to listen.
Starting point is 00:34:13 and just leave me alone and just let me sleep. It's so funny when I saw an interview with him and he was like, yeah, it was really nice of them. I get it. I know what they were trying to do, but I really just needed to sleep. To be fair, that would really piss me off too. So all night is like, Julia, Julia, Julia, Julia, Julia, Julia, do you like?
Starting point is 00:34:32 Yes. Let me bleed to death in this plane on my own. All right, Michael is, Michael makes. it through the night but his breathing is shallow now and he's surviving on very little oxygen they've been missing for 18 hours brandy described it it's a paralyzing feeling of what to do next they'd given up any hope of being rescued and decided if they're going to survive it's going to be down to them brandy suggests making their way down the mountain to find a river so brandy is thinking let's find a river we've got to go downhill. They have no other option. Michael isn't going to last the day. He's scared that if
Starting point is 00:35:17 Brandy and Brandy and Brandon leave them, they won't be able to find their way back. He said, don't leave us, which must be so hard. Like, that's your only lifeline and then they're going to leave. Oh, it just must be so terrifying. Brandon, Brandy and Silka leave the wreckage in search of help. Michael said, I remember when they left, I had this lonely, empty feeling. I was incapable of looking after myself. And I knew Alvaro was incapable of taking care of himself. The three face an incredibly challenging trek down the mountain. They were battling through thick jungle.
Starting point is 00:35:58 They were falling and getting cut by thorns that were two inches thick. They suffer through an hour before they realise they can't go any further. Brandy said, it's a pretty devastating feeling when you know, you've made the wrong decision and there's nothing you can do about it. They're completely stuck. They can't continue forward and they have no idea how to get back. Brandon said, I knew we were in dire straits. This is going to end up how it ends up. 22 hours after the crash, the three survivors realize they are completely helpless and have now given up all hope of survival. Back at the crash site, Michael's blood pressure has dropped so low that he's at imminent risk of cardiac.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Echarest. Just as he is coming to terms with the fact that he will die in the jungle, he hears voices calling out. He sees a man appear out of the jungle. He spots my, the guy spots Michael and Alvaro and calls out to the others. Over here, you're safe now. So these people are Red Cross volunteers who've been combing the jungle for the last 24 hours searching for the crash site. Michael and Alvro are safe, but what about the other three? So the other three are huddled together when a local farmer who is also volunteered with the search machetes his way through the trees and stumbles upon Brandon, Brandy and Silka. So massive stroke of luck. Because also this is an absolutely enormous like stretch of jungle. So the fact that they were stumbled upon is so
Starting point is 00:37:28 incredibly lucky. Brandon described the feeling of being rescued as complete elation. And Brandy added, it's the most incredible feeling I've ever had just pure joy. so there's really good footage um i'll try i'll get some some pictures on it for the for the for the instagram they're being um where they're being carried like to the hospital and you can see just how like broken they all are um but everybody makes a full recovery um and brandon and brandy are still happily married uh and now have two kids What, called like Alex and Alexandra
Starting point is 00:38:12 or like Connor and Connie Yeah So happy endings all round What are their kids called I want to know Oh I don't know How creepy would that be
Starting point is 00:38:23 Oh and also Their kids' names I don't know They may Some people make their kids more public than others I ain't here to judge Oh well these guys Did not release the names
Starting point is 00:38:36 Of their kids But I'd like to I'm choosing to believe it's Alex and Alexander. No, I like Connor and Connie, actually. I think that's. Brandy and Brandon, Connor and Connie. Okay, fine. Chad and chatter, maybe.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Sure. Barry and Borell. Borell. Borell. Yeah, pick any of the ones above. They work. So what are we putting in the survival toolkit for Brandon and Brandy? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah. Did they ever use the sarongs? They did use the sarongs, yeah. The sarongs definitely provided some warmth, yeah, for sure. I mean, it was a pretty lucky situation. Big up the Red Cross. I feel like he'll edit that out, but Neil just came in to say,
Starting point is 00:39:25 remember you said the radio and possibly the new girl theme song. And it felt like an aggression because clearly the new girl theme dream would not have helped thank you for reminding me you singing the new girl theme tune is clearly making it to the final cut of the episode um no let's be those ridiculous come on that's ridiculous um but the radio didn't work so it can't be the radio no the radio didn't work but then and the new girl theme tune only works in bear country it obviously wasn't a bear
Starting point is 00:40:01 I was being stupid. So, survival toolkit. Them screaming at the animal threat. I want to know what the animal was. Yeah, I mean, they don't know. So. What if it, no. I think I'm going to be like,
Starting point is 00:40:23 what if it was a rescue? And then he was like, oh, if you're going to be like that. Rude. The rescue is just stalking them. at night not saying anything yeah hey it's as scared of you as you are of it no it's probably like a jaguar or something right mm-hmm are they in the jungle it's probably yeah something that could like tear them up oh oh I think actually sarong is a good shout I think it has a lot of uses also if we do future use it it can be a tourniquet it can be a swing it can be
Starting point is 00:41:01 Slink? Yeah, I said sling. Blanket. Yeah. Hide the bits you're insecure about in a bikini. There you go. That's the original use. Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Yeah, I think, I think a sarong. Yeah, I'm happy to back sarong. Is that so wrong or so right? That's the so right answer. Cool. So right then? Yes. keep going let's go on try and try and do one back are we counting that one
Starting point is 00:41:37 what's all right then i think that's pretty good that's pretty damn good so let's move on please that hurts have you got some listener stories for me yeah hey julian abbey hate the podcast but wanted to share my story Sorry. I've chosen this simply for that intro because I love it. I enjoy the banter. Thank you, Vicky. Just kidding. I absolutely love it. Me and my eight month old listen to it each week while having breakfast together. Oh. Hopefully he will gain the skills to survive a worst case scenario. Yeah. Start them young. Stay inside. It's like, yeah, no, we're not just listening to horrible things with the baby. We're not just listening to horrible things with the baby. We're not. We're not just listening to horrible things with the baby. We're teaching him. Okay. I am originally from New Zealand, now live in the UK,
Starting point is 00:42:37 and had quite a sheltered upbringing. Desperate to see the world, I booked onto a Contiki bus trip around Europe. I hope I said that right. I lasted three weeks with absolutely no issues. On the last day of the trip in Paris, my friend and I were wandering around a park near the Arc de Triumph. Did I say it right? Do you know?
Starting point is 00:42:58 Yeah, thank you. Suddenly, we got surrounded by a group of teenagers. Nightmare. The worst. All trying to get us to sign their clipboards and we're being pushed around. It was so chaotic, loud and a bit scary. Then they all at once turned and ran away. My friend and I were confused but okay until I realized I didn't have my phone.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I'd been pickpocketed. My friend yelled, go get them. and being the naive traveler I was, I did. What? I started running after the group shouting, give me back my phone. I think they were so shocked that I was causing such a scene, one of them turned around and threw my phone back at me.
Starting point is 00:43:44 What? This is mad. We're hearing so many stories where you're just like, fucking, just like, challenge a thief? Just be like, go on. Like the whole phone he was like, give me your money? No. And they were just like, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:57 giving my phone back okay I didn't know you just had to ask I didn't know this was an option I feel like we shouldn't tell people that's how you should deal with don't challenge your thief I mean don't take any advice from me
Starting point is 00:44:14 at all ever in your life I think that should just like come on yeah that should be a given and if you do that is your fault I love that they are thieves that have come with props like what's the point it's a whole it's all stink
Starting point is 00:44:27 Well, they're clearly trying to, like, distract. This is a whole fucking Oliver twist. You got to pick a pocket to do. There's too much of my singing in this episode. But, you know, this is the whole, that's what they do in that little song. They do, they show all the little ruses. You flirt with the lady, while the other one goes from behind. Not in that way.
Starting point is 00:44:44 They're just, you know. I think, yeah, so they were so shocked, they threw my phone at me. I realize now that that was quite stupid and there is a reason the police in Paris carry guns. Oh, okay. However, that is my story about how I chase down a pickpocketer and survived. I mean, let's say child, but okay. Both of the stories, chasing children. You're referring to where they've got their stuff back.
Starting point is 00:45:14 They have both been with children. Yeah, okay. They've both been robbed by children. If the thief is under 12. Yeah, ask for it back. Give it a go. But other than that, if the thief, but then they're, And the other one, the kid had a gun, man.
Starting point is 00:45:31 A gun. Oh shit. It doesn't matter how big they are. They can shoot you. Yeah, I mean, I'm not asking for anything back in this situation. I'm running as fast as I can as far away as possible. I do like my phone though. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Do you think I just cry? I'd shout after them. I'd shout after them, yeah. I'd be like, please, that's my life. You don't understand. I've been so hard. That's everything. I'm all I have.
Starting point is 00:45:58 I'd try and like guilt them. They'd be like, fucking hell, this girl's not okay. I think they would be quite alarmed. Just like, just take your phone. Oh my God, please don't come near me. Like, do you know, I'd freak them out. You know? Take your phone.
Starting point is 00:46:10 They'd be like, we don't want your phone. We're weird. That's what I'd go for. Right, okay. I think it's working. So, can't wait for the next pod, Vicky. Thanks, Vicki. Thanks, Vicki.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Hate you too. That was a great intro. I really enjoyed that. Because it's from the episode where everyone's being like, love the pod. I imagine if they were like, hate the pod. I think I now just want everyone to say hate the pot. It's how I express love is I'm just horrible to people. So it's nice when people do it back. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:43 From now on. Yeah. From now on. Really reluctantly listening to this podcast. But here's my story to help you guys out. I'm obsessed enough to want my story on it. I'll take any promotion, I guess. Yeah. Let's see who can be the most lovingly horrid. Yeah, I'd actually really enjoy that.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Yeah. Okay. Hi guys. Hi. I love the podcast and just wanted to send this in. I'm sorry it's pretty long, but I think you'll want to read it. Oh, confident. Okay, here we go. This story is completely true.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Well, now you've said that. I don't believe you. Shouldn't they all be true? Yeah. That's like in comedy when guys are like, this genuinely happened. You know, well, then it didn't. And also that means that everything you've previously said to this point didn't happen. But okay.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Looking forward to future apps, my partner and I have our own podcast, The Ghost Gig, mixing music and the paranormal. If anyone wants to check that out, shameful self-promo there. Soz. See, I don't believe you're sorry either. I don't believe the word you say Alice, actually. You got to hustle Alice. We started off badly.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Okay, here we go. please enjoy the story below Alice yeah better be good better be good okay it's a bloody miracle that my life didn't end in 2014
Starting point is 00:48:05 that's in capitals what a start wow this girl's confident okay no I think I might start doing this just plugging our podcast on other people's podcasts
Starting point is 00:48:14 like stent writing in writing into the you do you have to have to have a good story every time though because if this story isn't good Alice is getting cut okay just not
Starting point is 00:48:25 Alice, you can end up on the carmarine floor, okay? I didn't plug out the kindness of my own heart. It's a give-take relationship. Okay. In my early 20s, I went to India for three months. Towards the end, I got to take a trip to the Himalayan Mountains. My mum had come to join me for the last week of the trip, and it was her dream to go there, so we did.
Starting point is 00:48:47 The place was amazing. We were staying in some little huts nestled into the side of the mountain. We were told even though leopards and tigers were common in that area, we were perfectly safe. There was a wire fence around where we were staying, which was apparently completely big cat proof. I did
Starting point is 00:49:05 however see the owner's dog confidently jumping over the fence later which was slightly alarming. I wanted, how big was the dog? Just a little terrier. Sausage dog. The dog was the exact same size as a big cat.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Yeah. I'm going to say all dogs are smaller than big cats. So, oh, I'm excited. Cats, okay. After a nice dinner and a lot of wine, we all went to bed in our separate huts. It's useful to mention here that the huts had no electricity whatsoever. I fell asleep, but was awoken soon after by a noise coming from the other side of the room. I sat up in the dark, still pretty tipsy from dinner.
Starting point is 00:49:53 the noise sounded like flapping maybe a bird or a bat i tried to ignore it but the sound got under my skin what if i i nearly said what if i and that would have been bad for the sentence what if it shat on my head i was like why why is this coming to it what if it sat on my head got tangled in my Her. Eventually, I got up deciding with my wine-fuelled brain that it would be a great idea to walk to my mum's cabin and bunk up with her in order to escape whatever was in my room. So I set off, in the dark, on the edge of a mountain, clutching a solar-powered lamp that admitted about as much light as a dying torch. I should also mention that I am horrendously short-sighted and rely heavily on contact lenses. But that night, I decided I wouldn't bother putting them in. Why aren't? earth, I thought this. I don't know. But in the words, Lizzo, oh, cancelled. Blame it on the juice. As soon as I was a few steps in, I knew I'd made a grave error. I turned to go back to the hut, but all I could see was darkness, save a few centimetres of light in front of me from the lamp. Not only could I not see my sense of direction, which is shit at the best of times,
Starting point is 00:51:17 completely evaporated. I was horribly aware that I was on the edge of a mountain and one wrong move could have me toppling to my death. What the fuck? She didn't mention she was on the... She didn't mention that, did she?
Starting point is 00:51:30 No, there was no like... I'm worried about the big cats. I didn't know any to also worry about being on the edge of a cliff. Yeah. So I shuffled along as though I was trying to do the world's shittest moonwalk.
Starting point is 00:51:43 She's just shouting out all the cancelled artists. Jim to fix it as well oh my god okay we're not putting Lizzo in the same in the same category alleged still hasn't okay okay
Starting point is 00:52:02 Lizzo could still come back from it the others no okay but good joke okay my eyes fixed on the tiny bit of the ground I could see. Then I came into contact with the door. I nearly whooped with relief. I stumbled across the kitchen, living room slash living room, building. What? I stumbled across the kitchen
Starting point is 00:52:30 slash living room building. A living room building? But you just said room. You can't have a room building. Okay. Where we'd all had dinner. I grabbed the handle thinking I'd just crash out on the sofa. I pull the handle Then again and again Sweat pricked on my forehead It was clear the door was locked But still I kept tugging at the handle By now panic had started to swell in my chest
Starting point is 00:52:55 So sorry I just need to say Okay so she didn't stumble across the room This is making sense She stumbled across as in Oh here's the door For the building where we have dinner I'll sleep on the sofa She pulled the handle
Starting point is 00:53:08 It's locked But she keeps tugging She's now panicking It was then that I heard a noise near by me. Something was moving through the undergrowth, something very big. My heart was hammering and I'm pretty sure I'd now sweated out every single drop of wine I'd consumed the night before. Shaking, I raised my lamp towards the noise.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Yes, it was dark and yes, my vision is bad, but I know what I saw. It was as though I was suddenly given 2020 vision just for that one horrible moment. Two large, sandy paws were standing on the ground in front of me. It was in the moment that I came to understand the term, frozen in fear. I think for a split second, even my breath stopped in my lungs. My body ceased to work and the lamp dropped from my fingers. There was more noise. Suddenly, my body snapped back into action and I made a wild grab for the lamp.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I snatched it up just as my legs gave way and I stumbled sideways. Then the ground fell away from under my feet. I was falling. This is it. Jesus Christ. What else could go wrong here? I think so. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:54:27 So the animals on the move. The animals kind of walked past her, I think. It's gone to another noise. She's grabbed her lamp. She's gone to run. The floors disappeared. This is it, I thought. going to die at 23 because I hadn't put my contact lenses in. Only the fall wasn't very
Starting point is 00:54:45 far. I landed softly in what felt like thick grass. I scrambled to my feet, hardly believing that I wasn't hurt. I held up the lamp and saw another door in front of me. There were tears in my eyes as I started to laugh. I'd fallen right in front of my mum's hut. Okay, but let's not like start giggling. The lion or whatever is still about. Yeah. The next morning my mum believe my story, but she was the only one. The owner of the area told me there was no way I'd seen a big cat. It must have been one of the dogs. Had I been so drunk and disorientated that I'd mistaken skinny little dog legs for cat paws? I mean, not impossible, but it seemed unlikely. It did strike me too that the paws were sandy, not striped or spotted, so maybe I was
Starting point is 00:55:34 mistaken after all. Right, so is it only tigers and leopards around there? Fast forward, months later, and I'm at a zoo in the UK. For all time's sake, I went to find the big cats. There were the lions, the leopards, the tigers. As I looked at them, my heart quickened. Turns out, the stripes on the tiger's legs stop just before their ankles. And their paws are simply a nice, clear, sandy colour. I am available for interviews
Starting point is 00:56:10 at the world's luckiest as the world's luckiest woman if anyone is interested all the best Alice wow Alice yeah all right fair enough Alice sounds pretty good one
Starting point is 00:56:22 that was I'll make it I'll make it in no go listen to Alice's podcast and just put your glasses on guys there's fashionable glasses these days you don't need to be
Starting point is 00:56:34 without glasses you don't people are cotton glasses I like glasses. I bet you've got 20-20 vision, haven't you? Yeah. God damn it. Though I was once given glasses
Starting point is 00:56:45 because, you know, when like, geek chic was real in? Yeah. And I thought it was a really good look, so I wanted glasses anyway. And then in class, I sometimes would, like, put my friend's glasses on to be like, do I look good?
Starting point is 00:56:58 Do I look good in these? What do I look like? And then I was like, oh, I think that kind of actually improves my view of the board. So we went to spec savers. yeah I've named and shamed them so they're not going to sponsor the pod now
Starting point is 00:57:10 I went to an unnamed glasses brand and they did an eye test and they were like yeah you need glasses um bought glasses whatever um and then it came to get like some new ones like a year later and I did the eye test again to like see if it had gotten worse and they were like you've never needed glasses
Starting point is 00:57:30 your eyesight is perfect thank you and so I just got scammed into buying glasses they were just like yeah yeah you need them I thought you were scamming there no no no I didn't scammer I did I did what I said like maybe
Starting point is 00:57:45 I went in being like I think maybe like it did improve my I was genuinely like oh maybe that did improve my view maybe I do need glasses and they were like here's an easy one here's an easy sell and they were like yeah yeah yeah for sure
Starting point is 00:57:56 she's in the market for some glasses and then the glass I got was so ugly as well because like my parents were like we're not getting you expensive glasses because you're lying and you don't need them Yeah, but then I did wear them once for like a GCSE spoken exam to make me look smarter. Did that work?
Starting point is 00:58:14 A couple of extra points for the glasses. I don't think so. I think I looked real small. But I never needed them and that was a waste of money. I bought like two pairs. Well, I didn't. My parents did. Sorry, Dad.
Starting point is 00:58:26 He listens. He's a big fan. Oh my God. Should we, did you enjoy his briefcase photo? I really enjoyed his briefcase photo. I didn't like the sentiment, but I did enjoy the actual. picture. Should I read it? What his sentiment was?
Starting point is 00:58:40 So Dad's a big fan of the podcast, possibly the biggest. Shout out, Paul. He's got a lot riding on it now. We're like his favorite podcast so we can't stop it because... Oh, that's nice. He says he's gone off his other podcast, but he likes ours. So he sent a picture.
Starting point is 00:58:56 He's found a briefcase in our house and he said, this is a briefcase and nothing else qualifies. No satchels, no shoulder bags, no laptop soft carriers. I'm with you. No one carries these anymore. And then he proceeds to model the briefcase. Stationery, sidelon, in motion, with a bit of a walk. And we will put those on at WCS pod.
Starting point is 00:59:22 He looks like a character in Tintin. Because that's really all you wanted, didn't he? He's just like, I want to get on the Instagram. I want to get on that grid. He's like, I need to come up with some content. I want to go on the grid. Yeah, I like that he's finding his way. He's going to be a third member of the pod,
Starting point is 00:59:36 before we know it. He's welcome. He's, yeah, more than. At least he'll go on, Mike. Neal. Um,
Starting point is 00:59:45 that enough? Yeah. Did we want another listener? I think that's good. Yeah. I think that's a lovely little wrap up. Hmm. Well, hey.
Starting point is 00:59:56 So wrong, farewell. Here she is. That was good. That was very good. Well done. Thanks so much. How long have you been sitting on that for? That just came to me.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I was like, yeah, hey, she also does improv. Follow us at WCS pod online. Give us a review if you've liked it. Thanks for listening. So what's the other thing? I suppose there's another thing. No? Hope you survive.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Hope you survive another week. That's, yeah, nice. All right. Bye. Bye. Bye. landmark hit by lightning in your local park cord and a downpour of acid rain struck by meteor or a tray a proton beam passing through your brain attacked by that angry shark again
Starting point is 01:00:47 hear how they survive trampled by a herd of buffalo chased with an axe by your new friend joe buried alive in a pile of snow the worst case scenario

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