Worst Case Scenario with Abi Clarke and Julia Stenton - Day 4 - Jennifer Morey
Episode Date: June 14, 2023It's Abi's true crime origin story, the one that got her hooked!An abuse of trust, a sixth sense on the end of the phone, and incredible strength & fighting spirit from the survivor... Abi present...s to Julia the story of Jennifer Morey's on this episode of Worst Case Scenario.Not one for the faint hearted we must flag it contains descriptions of sexual assault and violence.Send in tales of survival from your own worst case scenario to help@wcspod.com and follow the podcast on Instagram @wcspodTheme tune by the brilliant Crizard who can be found on Instagram @crizards Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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It's the worst case scenario.
Hello, hi.
Welcome to Worst Case Scenario, the podcaster we tell each other stories of people who survived the worst case scenario.
Nice, it's in the title.
Yeah, like bad stories, but they survive.
Oh, oh my God, you're so in sync.
God, I hate us.
have you had a good week
yeah
oh that's not convincing
it's been a busy week
yeah I went to Spain
oh yeah
I brought you a gift
stop it
well I actually bought the
the podcast gift
oh okay less excited now
oh my god
produce Neil is so excited
it's a shock
pop it
So I went to Spain
She's left the tag on
With a group of influencers
To visit the Love Island Villa
And in duty free
Well they all bought shot glasses for their boyfriends
I bought a plastic shark handpuppet
Wow
And I had to leave the shop
And turn to G.K. Barry
Just a very famous infant
Just going, don't ask
Did you wear it on your hand?
Yeah, obviously.
me for the whole flight the shark said don't ask don't talk to me can we do a whole episode
where you do it through the shark what are we calling him I want to call him Bruce but that is
taken from yeah no it's got to be a sh name Sharon let's make it a woman women can be sharks
women can't be sharks sharks are not women dolphins are women sharks men Sheila that's still a woman
I know but I'm trying to change all right oh you just didn't like
Sharon. Okay, fine.
No, I just, I just...
Sheila makes her sound quite
Australian, so that's nice. That goes...
Can we mount her to the wall, I wonder?
If you have a pin, it can...
I thought it could be like a little head.
Great, let's nail her to the wall.
Sorry, Sheila.
Jesus.
You only just met her.
Take me for dinner first.
If you want a pun, can we call it Joshua.
Joshua.
Joshua from Neil.
Neil is supporting the only man.
Producer Neil's like, can we make it a man?
Can we make a man, please?
I like Joshua.
Joshafina.
Joshafina.
There we go.
She's done it.
George Athena.
There we go.
Welcome to the podcast, George Shepina.
Oh, she looks.
She looks angry, doesn't she?
She went missing in my flat and I found out.
One of my housemates that just shoved her in a bottom jaw.
Is that why one of your housemates is leaving?
so when it glued
and just found out of them
and like what the fuck is this
that's horrible
and hid it
no yeah one of my house
is leaving
already
I've only been there
since January
I've already driven her out
how long has she been there
before you got there
two years
oh
that I'm moving
immediately goes
no she's just very happy
in her relationship
they are now
anyway
so we had to
do our advert yesterday.
Oh yeah.
Our Facebook advert
begging people.
Is that how you found?
Oh,
that's how you found them, isn't it?
Should I read you it?
Please.
Okay.
You'll be living.
I probably shouldn't say my housemate's names.
You'll be living with housemate number one,
age and Abby, age, ambiguous,
who are both creative, fun people.
We love to hang out and watch TV and movies in the evening
when we're all around.
We do borrow my doggy,
lot so often have dogs about preferably you're a fan of animals too and we like an evening in
the pub because we wanted to sound fun um when was the last time you were in the pub i genuinely
don't know it's literally around the corner we don't go we were like we wrote we like to watch
tv and then we were like what else and then ash was like we go to the cinema it's like that's
still tv and movies um and then
we say about exercise
which is really going to turn some people off
and then we say
we're busy people we just enjoy each other's company
when we can ability to banter important
oh I'm out
and then it says also
oh fuck I'm going to say a name
also Ash will make you chant at the moon
LGBT plus friendly
chant at the moon
okay so when I moved into this house
first month
did I meet Ash it was Ash the one who came home
when we were recording
because she seemed really nice.
No, that was Nat.
She's leaving.
Ash is a bitch.
She's the world.
I'll be honest.
I'm sure Ash,
you're lovely,
but chanting at the moon,
you've lost me.
So first month I lived there.
Yeah.
One of the first things I knew from her
was she left a room once
by just saying,
I can feel the moon.
And I was like, oh no.
This was not in the interview.
Where's the red flag?
She did not,
she did not claim this
when I came in an interview.
at this house.
They didn't mention that in their Facebook post.
No, I really think it's going to...
We put it on as a joke,
but it's really going to turn people off.
Maybe that's good, though.
But then, yeah,
and then it was a full moon,
and she was like,
Abby, you are going to have to chant with us.
And I was like,
I don't have the self-esteem
or confidence for this.
I can't...
What's the purpose of the chanting?
Um,
well,
hers, she just asked for a man
with a big penis
that was literally the chant.
Oh, it's like, it's like a Christmas wish list.
Yeah.
Like the letter you write to Santa.
Yeah.
So basically, she got to get,
kitchen dining chair she put it in the window um she put all her crystals on it she
so she's really into like manifest i was waiting for the crystals i'm dragging her through the
mud here she's either going to love this for the attention or hate me forever um because she does
we get odd my money's on the ladder you're really underestimating how much she loves attention
are you not hearing this story okay so she's really into like manifestations and crystals again
this was not pre-claimed um um um um but she knows
that people... I would pay so much money to see your face when she said,
Ash, get the crystals out. We're chanting at the moon. No, but... So she like goes on
dates and she knows people judge it heavily. So she once was like on a date and the guy was
like, oh, you know, all these people into star signs. She was like, ha ha ha, yeah. And then he came
back to her room and she had to like get all her manifestations around her table and she
had to just like sweep them off onto the floor and like tear it all down as he came in.
What does that mean? What are her manifestations? I think manifestation is when
like a hot person just asks for something.
Okay.
So,
but then what,
so what did she clear off?
It's like when you're like,
we're really going to piss people off.
People are up really into it.
You like,
you say like,
I am going to get this or I will be this.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, I get that.
But what did,
what is she clearing off?
So she writes them out.
Oh, she writes them out.
Oh, okay, sure.
But did it happen if you don't put it
onto paper?
I don't know.
I need to,
I don't.
Anyway,
it was a full moon.
So she was like,
we're chanting to the moon tonight.
And I was like, ha ha, yeah.
Good one.
Good one.
I was like, okay, then.
You're a good one.
And then, yeah, she got the kitchen dining chair out, put her crystals on it.
And then she's like, Abby, come on.
And I was like, oh my God, I'm going to have to do this because I was still new.
Like, I couldn't say no.
Bold move from her.
Like, really bold move.
And basically what we had to do, we had to reach towards the moon.
No.
And be like, bring her something.
And then we had to take the energy down to the crystals.
She gave us, so before, she gave us a little briefing, she prepped us, she was like,
this is what I want.
So, oh, so you're like her little minions, you're all working for her, it's very despicable
me.
Right, okay.
Yeah, yeah, so she's like, do you all get a turn?
She's like, I want to find the, no, they're her crystals, I want to find the love of my life.
She was like, yes, I have a big penis.
I was like, should we just say like, good in bed?
She was like, no, big penis.
So she doesn't actually really care about how they are.
Did she give a measurement or she was just like, just big.
I trust you, Moon, whatever you judge is as big.
She's like, good sense of humour.
So she gave us like the list, the criteria she wanted.
So we did it.
I obviously couldn't take it fully seriously.
So I do feel slightly responsible.
How could you take it even slightly seriously?
This is bullshit.
So I was like, have a good sense of humour, but not as good as mine.
And then she went and got a picture of herself from her room that she picked a younger one.
Yeah, obviously.
In hopes it might make her younger.
And then my other husband was like,
it's manifestation, it ain't magic.
And then she's had a UTI ever since.
Oh, that's karma.
So the moon breaks.
The moon was like,
I'll take you a shallow request
and I'll break your vagina.
She hasn't had sex since.
To be fair.
If you ask for a big penis,
you are going to get cystitis.
Right?
It's just warning her.
Be careful what you wish for.
Have her what you wish for.
Wow.
She also says thrush.
I don't know if I'm allowed to say.
I'm so glad I don't live with him.
At one point I was like, Julia, move to London so that we can live together.
And I was like, no, no, it is good fun.
It's good fun.
This is the reason I love her, though.
It's because she's into all of that stuff.
But she's so.
funny because she's so self-aware so like she's going to listen to this and never ever tell you
anything ever again you know what she'll be the one moving out next hey guys this is a new podcast so
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Okay, we'll shut up now
and tell you the story.
I'm doing a true crime
survival story today
because you've got to stay true to your roots.
This is actually the story
that first got me listening
to true crime podcasts.
The OG.
This is a origin story for me.
So basically my...
Because obviously it is always about me
at the root of it.
But my friend told me this, I remember it, like at a station, she told me this story and I was
like, I need to listen to that. And it turns out that was the first episode I listened to
of my favourite murder. So I went back and found out this week it was only episode 33,
which also though was when they did earlier episodes where it was a bit more like relaxed,
less research. Okay. So they actually missed out like quite a lot of details. Oh great. So I think
it's worth doing again. It was also an I survived story. It's one of Karen's classics, which
annoyingly, we can't get in the UK. So this is, this is for all the UK people. If you've missed it,
this is the survival story of Jennifer Morey. I'm going to give a trigger warning to attempted
sexual assault. Let's be honest, that's necessary with almost every true crime survival story
of a young woman. Also, if you're someone who's anxious about living alone or home intruders,
this will confirm all of your fears.
But it's amazing.
This is an incredible story.
Warning's done.
Are you ready?
So professional.
Are you ready, kids?
I'm ready.
Aye, aye, captain.
Okay.
Woo-hoo.
I'm nervous.
Okay.
It's 1995.
The year of Jumangi, Clueless, OJ's tiny little gloves, and nothing to do with Abby
because she wasn't born yet.
Disgusting.
How old were you?
Five.
That was five years old.
Jennifer Mori was 25.
She was a lawyer who.
was just kind of smashing life generally. She was managing to be very successful in a male
dominated industry at the time. She had our own apartment in a high-end complex. She's doing all right.
She'd just moved to Houston. I'm really panicking. Have you not heard that word before? I have, but I just panicked. I panicked. Houston, we have a
problem. I'll be going to say Houston. Houston. Okay. Wow. Okay. Yeah. I don't think I have to say it
again to begin a new job. Okay, so she'd gone out of her way to find an apartment that
prioritized security, as I think most of us would. And she found a complex called the Bayou Park
apartments that had an eight foot tall fence around the perimeter, secure access, and 24-hour
security guards. So, like a prison. Nice. Like a really high-end prison. Lovely. For women.
So it seemed like perfectly designed to ensure women living alone, didn't have to
about intruders or whatever.
On the 15th of April,
Jennifer is convinced to go out for drinks
and dancing at the L house
with her friends. She doesn't want to go at first,
but they convince her. She ends up having a great time,
staying out until around midnight.
She meets a young man
who offers to give her a ride home
and she agrees. I should also say
this is a brilliant story for the red flags.
If you don't know what that means, we have physical red flags
and feel free to wave it. Whenever
you see one coming, Julia.
Oh, I will.
So this random stranger
He drops her off
And she walks up to her building
Takes the lift up to her second floor apartment
Locks the door
Washes her face
Takes out her contact lenses
Probably does like an eight step
Skincare routine
Because she looks amazing
And goes to bed
Living the dream
Living the dream
Sun cream too bad
That's what you do right
Oh god
I literally put sun cream on
Just go to the cinema the other day
Did you?
At night
you don't need to do that i don't think i'm doing well i've been told you have to just wear it yeah you
should wear it wherever you leave the house now yes but i did feel like i was like this is a little extreme
yeah because how long was your journey to the cinema probably not that long well it was all on the bus
a lot of uv on the bus yeah in the cinema fair okay at 4 a.m she wakes up and kind of feels like she
can't move. Oh God. I hate this already. She feels a pressure on her chest, like something's
pushing down on top of her. She says she was in a very sound sleep, but she slowly comes to,
and she realizes it's a person. Oh yeah, there we go. Of course. Holding her down on the bed,
a man is straddling her. At first, she thinks she might be dreaming. He pushes on her legs and
starts trying to pull off her underwear, but she's still confused.
She doesn't know what's going on.
All she recalls thinking about at the time was that she could feel his really rough leg
hair against hers.
But then she brings her hands up to her neck and feels a knife being held against her throat.
And it's at this moment she very suddenly becomes completely lucid and her brain wakes
her up with the clearest thought of, this man is trying to rape me.
Oh, God.
So immediately, she starts fighting.
She screams as loud as she can.
She thrashes with all her strength.
She begs him not to hurt her.
And remember, she's in an apartment building, right?
She's got a lot of neighbours.
Yeah.
She is screaming as loud as she can.
She screams continuously at full volume.
Her screams were so loud, she woke a minimum of 15 to 20 neighbors in the building.
Not one person calls the emergency services.
No.
And this, sorry, this building is, you have, is all women.
It's not all women.
I think just like women have chosen to live there because of the high security.
Which is why it's crazy that you wouldn't then, if you hear continuous screaming,
immediately be like, oh shit, something bad is happening.
Yeah, like that doesn't sound good.
Yeah.
I should probably help.
And there's, didn't you say there was security?
Yeah.
Are they not, they can't hit, they don't, they don't know.
Well, there's only, it's night, so they'll probably only,
be like one person on night shift right okay but yeah no one just not one
during the continuous fight she grabs his hands and in response he brings the knife down
on the side of her face it's a hard blow to her right cheek slash eye and at the time
she thinks he's cut her eye out fucking there's an explosion of blood which she describes as a hot
waterfall just pouring out this is the gruesome bit I love how we just dive straight into this
yeah yeah yeah yeah sorry did you want some fall play i just wanted a bit yeah i wanted a bit more
about jamanji something else that was going on at the time i did my best yeah sorry i didn't
i didn't think we were going straight into okay neil asked me if all of my stories were going to include
robin williams and i was like yes ideally yes i'm going to link every story back to a robin williams
film somehow i can't wait for you to make a joke whether robin williams pardon for this one
oh let me think about it
and we'll edit it in like I just came up with it on the spot
okay
okay so hot waterfalls of blood just pouring out her eye
yeah you're on board yeah I'm there
I can see it so at this point she realizes
if she doesn't get this man off her
he has no issues he's going to kill her
yeah right
so it doesn't matter how much her eyes hurting
she's not going to let him rape her
she's not gonna let him kill her
she's like I'm not that's not gonna happen
She's still screaming. She tries to barter with him, really believing that she can convince him to stop. But his response, Jennifer, shut up. He knows her name. Oh my God, he knows her name. Exactly. So yeah, I wrote, want to guess why that's so disturbing. But yeah, on the nose, he knows her name. Which means she must know this person in some way, but it's pitch black. And although she tries to take in her,
attacker's appearance. All she can see is his outline and hair. Um, she describes as short and
straight. Oh, not even distinctive. Basic. BASAC. Can't even have. Doesn't cut it down. No. Um,
she tries to recognize his voice, but calm. The man then puts the knife back to her throat
and slits it. Although she hadn't thought about the next step previously, this is the first time she
thinks, I'm going to die.
Yeah. She's still determined not to, but with all the blood loss, she begins to physically
lose her fight. He tells her not to look at him anymore or he'll kill her. So now choosing
to take the more like submissive approach for survival, do what you're told. She does what
he says, turns over and closes her eyes. So he then grabs her hair, drags her out of bed
across the floor and throws her into the bathroom. But this is.
is now when things start to turn around. Because during the epic fight, Jennifer has put up,
he's dropped his knife. Jennifer knows this is her chance. So when he goes back to the bedroom
to retrieve it, she amazingly manages to think and move quickly enough to slam the bathroom door
shut. But she quickly realizes this bathroom door doesn't have a lock. Oh, God. Hate that.
My friend's bathroom door doesn't close. That's...
Isn't that, isn't it?
So I have to enact, every time I'm around their house, I have to be like, I'm going to the toilet now, everybody who's in the house.
Like, you just have to have like a theme tune.
Right.
Just like playing when you're in there.
That's horrible.
Why haven't they fixed that?
It's so tense.
I don't go around much.
I think if you don't have a bathroom door that works or locks, you shouldn't have guests.
I agree.
I agree.
I think that should be a rule.
Rule one.
Yeah, no parties at your house.
God, imagine a party.
That'd be disgusting.
Sorry, back to the horrible, horrible attempted murder.
Yeah, sorry, Julia, can you start lightening the mood?
So she's in the, she's in the toilet.
Let's bring it back down.
So she's in a toilet, her throat slit, she thinks her eyes been cut out, bathroom door doesn't lock.
So she can't even go in any kind of privacy.
Yeah.
She knows she doesn't have the strength to hold this door shut, stood up.
So she sinks to the ground, she wedges her body, sat down between the door and the bathtub.
So her backs against the door, and she presses her feet up against the tub.
with her legs outstretched.
Yeah.
She pushes as hard as she can
against the man
now banging against the other side of the door.
She grabs a roll of toilet paper
and presses it against her neck
to stem the bleeding.
So I'd say that's item number one.
For the survival toolkit.
Yes.
Well, don't you remember what it's called?
The survival toolkit.
Yes.
Not the survival kit or the toolkit.
Or the kit for survival,
the survival toolkit.
Was that clear?
Is everybody clear on what it's called?
If we use any of those words in future, you know what we mean.
But Neil will tell us off.
Because it's a survival toolkit.
So, roll of toilet paper up against the neck to stem the bleeding.
Then it all goes quiet.
That's scarier.
That's scarier than banging, I think, is the absence of noise.
Yeah.
She puts her ear against the door.
And she can hear the man now walking around her apartment, rummaging through.
her belongings. No, thank you.
And then there's the sound that she still
remembers to this day
the sound of him
zipping up his trousers.
Oh.
The front door opening and then shutting.
But has he left?
Oh my God.
Okay, how long do you wait in the toilet?
Right? So, this
is the thing. Has he opened and closed
it from the inside and is now just waiting for her to come out
and attack again? Or
has he actually gone?
So she waits, she listens.
And she basically has to just make a decision
on whether she's going to go out and risk it or stay put.
But if she stays put, she'll bleed out.
Oh, God, yeah.
So she's like, well, you know, nothing to lose, really.
She takes her back away from the door and tries to open it.
She can't, however, open the door.
Because she has pushed so hard against the door,
it's now jammed.
and because her hands are covered in blood
they are too slippery
and so she can't get a grip on the door
this is like when you've like moisturised
and then you try and like open the door
and you know when it's a round handle as well
you get no purchase on that
I get stuck at my bedroom all the time
every time I body butter I'm just like
well I'm stuck it for the day
apparently
this was on the my favourite murder episode
but like I said this was back when they didn't
do their research so much
So, and also because I haven't been able to watch The I Survived,
all of my info has come from articles or other podcasts telling the story
and I've tried to merge everything so that you get everything in one place.
But I haven't been able to watch the I Survived episode.
So I don't feel like I have like heard it firsthand from her.
So I can't confirm everything.
But apparently she said in the episode that she actually laughed at this point
because she was like, I survived the attack,
but I'm now going to bleed to death because I can't open the bathroom door.
And it is kind of slapstick, the idea of her, like, slipping all over the bathroom.
It's just like, the door that a moment ago, you were like, why don't you have a fucking lock?
Yeah.
It's now like, oh, you want me to lock, bitch, I'll fucking lock.
So.
Oh, this is so, I'm sweating.
This is so stressful.
Okay, so she was planning to try and open the door quietly, obviously, try and kind of like creep out, not bring any attention to herself.
But now, because it's jammed, she just has to continuously and very, and very, you know,
very loudly yank at it.
Luckily though, with enough persistence,
she does manage to jerk it open and crawl out.
Despite the noise, still, no one has come to help.
Because obviously at this point, you're like,
I'm in a apartment building, I've been screaming,
where are the police?
Why is no one called the police?
It's still pitch black.
She doesn't know if he's still in there.
And if you remember, from way back at the start,
I left you a little treasure
that you probably didn't pick up on.
But to make matters worse, she's taken out her contact lenses.
Oh no.
So everything is blurry.
She feels around in the darkness for a light switch, but when she finds it and presses it, nothing happens.
Also, she thinks she's one eye down at this point, doesn't she?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, like, she thinks she has one blurry eye.
It's pitch black.
She finds the light switch.
She switches it.
It's still pitch black.
Oh, God.
No lights turn.
On. For a moment, she thinks maybe she's missed like a power bill or something. But then she finds
her landline. Cut. Luckily, though, she had a secret weapon. 1995. What was still pretty rare?
A pager. No, that wouldn't have been that way. A mobile phone. A mobile phone.
I love that you went pager first. Yeah. Wow, you really are old. Okay.
she had a secret of having the attacker didn't know about um so Jennifer had been provided
with a mobile phone by her employer so most people didn't have yeah mobile phones at the point
just to hand but she'd been given one by her employer she found it she went back into the
bathroom she called 911 should we add a phone to the survival toolkit and a 90s
a big brick or you know you you thought a page it would be better so I mean without a
phone a pager is kind of useless so maybe a phone i genuinely don't know how pages work oh god but i know
they all have them in drays anatomy they have them where in drays in alatome you know what's that's a good show
it's really underrated everyone's always going on about grays but i'm telling you yeah yeah it's the next
person good drays is the o g um it's it's up there i'd say so far we've got toilet roll or 90s well i think
the toilet roll would have, would only have serviced you for so long.
She's still bleeding out.
She still had to leave the bathroom.
It's soaking through that role whether you like it or not.
Yeah.
But the phone, if it's charged, we're good to go.
This is a thing.
Like, obviously a phone's a good idea, but phones let you down.
Yeah.
But in this case, it doesn't.
And also, early phones, their battery lasted years.
I think actually adding a specifically 90s phone is a good idea.
Yeah.
We should all just carry 90s phones anyway for safety.
Everyone should just have like a burner Nokia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who's she ringing?
9-1-1.
Ghostbusters.
Just her ex, like, come round.
I know we haven't spoken in a while, but I'm really scared and I miss you.
That's who I'd call.
Oh, God.
So, no, the dispatcher who picks up was a man called Richard Everett.
He'd just started his shift.
And it was his first shift ever.
Oh, God.
So we're in good hands.
Great.
Actually, you probably are
quite good hands
because I bet he's read the handbook.
Fresh.
Jennifer doesn't scream or yell
on the 911 call.
She just sounds in complete shock.
I listened to the tiniest bit.
Yeah.
I didn't really want to listen to it.
But I was surprised actually.
I thought it was going to be like horrifying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But actually, if you don't listen
to like the words she's saying,
she could have just been like,
oh, someone like
took my handbag.
Oh, really?
Like, it's, she sounds quite calm.
She's obviously not.
Like, I think she's just in shock.
But she's not, she's not screaming or yelling or freaking out.
She's just like, this thing has happened.
Do you really have to get your point across, don't you?
So you probably...
But I think also she's just low energy.
She doesn't want to waste any energy at this point.
Right.
She says, please help me.
This guy just tried to cut my throat.
And Richard says, mom?
Well, actually, he's American.
Ma'am.
Oh, I thought he said mum
I realized
I was like I wasn't going to do an accent
at a time like this
but actually it doesn't have to be quite necessary
he's like ma'am
because like that's kind of a crazy thing
to open your version of with
she says there's blood everywhere
and covered in blood
he knew my name
I don't know who it was
I know I locked the door
I don't know how he got in the apartment
Richard does everything he can really
to just keep her calm.
Yeah.
He's kind of like just calmed down.
It's going to be okay.
She asks for his name.
He says, my name is Richard.
She says, I'm sorry.
I'm calming down.
And he responds, there you're doing fine.
Right now, you're doing fine.
The fact she is apologising, though.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I'm calming down.
Babe, you be as stressed as you like.
I'm here for you.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
But he does seem to reassure her.
everything's going to be okay now
and they wait together for the police to arrive.
However, around
10 minutes into the phone call,
it's been 10 minutes. Where are the police?
Where is the security
in this building?
Well, 10 minutes into the phone call,
there's a knock at the door.
No, no, no, he's not back.
Believing the police have finally arrived,
Jennifer tells Richard and crawls to the front door,
but Richard urgently stops her.
He is tracking the attending team
on his screen and can
clearly see that the police have not arrived yet.
He says, don't answer the door right now.
This is in the transcript.
Good job, Dickie.
She calls through the locked apartment door, hello.
And then you hear her telling Richard, they said it's security.
She shouts through the door again, what's your name?
And Richard asks if she can see through the peephole,
but she responds, I haven't got my contacts in.
I can't see anything in focus.
As I said at the start, this apartment building does have really strict security.
Yeah.
They actually employed an outside security company called Pinkerton.
And the person at the door was claiming to be a Pinkerton security guard called Brian Gibson.
So although they're like, that most likely is security, Richard is still like, let's just wait.
Brian says that he has just been attacked by the guy jumping off Jennifer's second floor balcony.
And he's asking if she's okay, asking to let him in.
He says he's first aid trained and can help her.
He won't go away.
He keeps knocking.
He says he has his badge.
He can identify himself.
And he just wants to make sure she's okay.
Richard is still saying no.
He says, this is a quote,
Jennifer, if you don't know who this is on the other side,
do not open the door.
But obviously, it's been like 15 minutes now.
And Jennifer just wants help.
Do you know what I mean?
She wants to open the door.
She's losing a lot of blood.
She doesn't want to pass out before the police get there.
This guy is saying he knows CPR.
He has his badge.
But Richard is like, just keep talking.
Keep listening to the sound of my voice.
He says, I'm watching the police drive down your street right now.
They are three minutes away.
Just hold on for three more minutes.
Oh my gosh.
I'm so tense.
The knocking is getting more frantic.
And she just can't trust anyone at this point.
But then she hears the sirens.
Rich is like, can you hear that?
They're here or they're there.
You're going to be fine.
Keep that door shut.
And then the knocking stops.
Brian's fucked off.
It was him!
Now we're going to swap to this perspective of the police officers.
Oh, hold on.
You're just going to leave me hanging.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's called storytelling, Julia.
Okay, fine.
Lock it up.
So they arrive.
They are met by the security guard.
It is the genuine security guard on shift.
Brian.
night and he is called Brian Gibson.
Okay.
Um, so that was all true.
He is an absolute mess though.
Um, he's bleeding from his right hand, blood on his face and uniform.
And he tells the police the same story he told Jennifer.
He says that he saw the attacker jump down from Jennifer's second floor balcony.
They got into a fight.
He struggled into the ground, but the perpetrator got away and ran off into the woods
into a field over on the other side.
But he didn't see where he'd gone.
Okay.
They're like, okay.
Uh, some of the police go straight to Jennifer, where she's,
finally opens the door with the last ounce of her energy and immediately collapses,
though she does hear within the commotion that a security guard has been injured.
The other officers go to check out this woodland the attacker has gone into.
But what do they find?
There is no trail into the woods.
It is the very early hours of the morning, so the grass is dewy, and that means there would
be a clear trail if someone had run through it.
So they're like, let's just put that security guard in a room.
Let's just like make sure we know where he is because something's off.
Yeah.
Jennifer is taken to the hospital and undergo surgery where they save her eye
and tell her that her jugular vein was missed by millimeters, but she's going to recover.
Oh.
So with Jennifer now safe and out of the apartment, the police go and investigate the crime scene.
There is blood everywhere.
Ceiling, walls.
Bathroom is a mess.
Oh, but like easy to clean.
at least.
It's nice of him to choose the tiled room.
The carpet in the bedroom, however, just no chance.
Burn it.
They find in the room a pair of men's underwear,
a belt, the weapon used,
and a Pinkerton security hat.
Suspicious.
Let's clip that for future episodes.
Do you remember that quality storytelling I was talking about?
Mm.
This is vicious.
There wasn't like a name badge with Brian on it, was it?
No, just a hat.
So obviously, they're like, let's go back and see Brian.
Let's go chat to Brian.
Let's re-interview him.
And they ask him to take his shirt off.
He's like, hey, no, I'm the victim here.
Like, I was attacked too, and they're like, take your show off.
Okay, Brian.
Take your friend.
He has scratches all over his body. He's not wearing underwear and he's shaved his pubic
hair. Why? Because that means no pubes, no hair's left behind. Yeah. Though he didn't shave his
legs. Oh, he's a pervert. Yeah. I don't know. Um, I love if they went back, just look at the
underwear and his name was like sewn into the underwear. Probably. And like there was a hundred
percent of shit stains, you know what I mean?
Like 100% skid marks.
He's all over that.
Oh, and also, uh-oh, where's his hat?
They arrest him instantly.
I think I know.
I think I know where his hat is.
Why would you leave that behind?
Why wear it to a crime?
Pop that up before you go in.
We all know he has hair.
He doesn't need to wear a hat.
Exactly.
Okay.
Turns out, 26-year-old Brian Wayne Gibson,
the security guard wasn't the model employee.
It goes back.
He started work at Pinkerton in 1992
and during his three-year employment
he had been removed from two separate assignments
for getting into arguments with clients.
He was finally reassigned to Jennifer's apartment
after a client complained
he'd used their vehicle without permission
and instead of firing him or pressing charges
he was transferred to the night shift
at Bayou Park where many young women lived alone.
He used his moment
used this moment
that's bad writing for me
but anyway he used his moment
as an on-duty security guard
to break in an attempt to rape a murder Jennifer
but did not succeed
police were convinced though
that if Jennifer had opened that door
he would have killed her and picked up all the things
he'd left behind
my one question though that I could not find the answer to
so that's actually really unsatisfying to even bring it up
but please do
was the fact that she had locked her door
and he managed to get in
because he's security, I assume.
But then later, why is he asking to be let in?
Why can't he get in?
Maybe he'd left the key as well.
Maybe he needs, yeah.
His key was in his pants.
His key was in the hat.
Yeah.
Maybe he needs her to believe,
although you would just do it, wouldn't you?
Maybe the hat was the key.
That's why you brought it.
Just like a scan the hat.
It's 905.
Tech is on the rise.
It was all about hackies in 99-5s, let me tell you.
Oh, okay.
Hacky.
I wonder why they died out.
Security guards get broken in.
That is a really good point, though.
Why didn't he just open the door to get back in?
Yeah, I could not find the answer.
Maybe he had genuinely, whatever he used, he'd left it.
Yeah.
He was given 20 years for a conviction of attempted murder and or
aggravated burglary with intent to commit sexual assault
but unfortunately only 20 years means
yeah he is probably now out
unless he's done something else which well you know
he didn't seem like a good guy so he probably has
20 years doesn't sound in America
can you you know here you'll see if you can
halve your sentence effectively if you have good behaviour
in prison you're going to ask me a
question about American law right now,
do I really like the person who's going to know the answer to that?
This is not an expertise podcast.
Sorry, I thought you would have known.
This is an enthusiast's podcast, do you?
Because if that's true,
10 years is nothing.
I think he did do the full 20,
but obviously it was 905.
And you're...
I'm proof that...
No, but like, I do find it mad
that, like, attempted murder
is get so much less
than murder.
I think it should be more
It should be like
You failed
Yeah not only did you try and murder
You also like shit at it
So like we're like
I think you should get a double punishment
No that's
That would encourage
I think it should be as much as murder
I think it should be as much though
Yeah I agree
Just because you're bad at it
It doesn't mean you weren't trying to do that
Especially if you cut someone's throat
There's nothing more attempted murdery than that
And then came back to finish the job
Yeah
Like full intent
Yeah
But back to Jennifer
Shall we?
Yeah
How's she doing?
Well not great
it was pretty traumatic
maybe even the worst case scenario
um police visited
jennifer after the attack
to tell her she'd put up one hell of a fight
nice apparently they were like
girl
girl you put up one hell of a fight a little missing
um
not at all patronising
I told you her accents were amazing
um
and once she'd recovered
uh she returned to the apartment
only to retrieve her belongings
and move out. Though she was a lawyer,
Maury hopped around from job to job
taking positions at temporary agencies that she was
overqualified for, as is the case with many survivors of violent
crimes. The trauma continued to resurface.
But with enough time, she began to rebuild her life.
In 1998, three years later,
she filed a lawsuit against a security company
and was awarded an undisclosed amount.
You know it's big when it's undisclosed.
The same year that she won her lawsuit,
she opened her own family practice in Fort Worth
and met the man who would soon become her husband.
And who do you think attended that wedding?
Richard.
Richard Everett, of course.
Jennifer and Richard Everett,
the man who told her not to open the door to her murderer,
still remain friends to this day.
And she saved a dance for him at the wedding.
Oh, that's not.
Nice. Really, his career must have been downhill from that. That was his first shift.
Yeah, you can't beat that. He was. He peaked. Retire then. Do you know what I mean?
She continues to practice law and has gone from being the victim of a hideous, almost fatal encounter to a trustworthy name in carrying out civil law to help others.
She went on to become the director of trauma support services of North Texas in 2011 and remains a loyal victim's advocate.
to this day.
And that is the story of Jennifer Morey.
I'm Richard Everett.
Oh, I love that it ends in a friendship.
Right?
That's lovely.
I mean, you'd be bonded for life, would you?
Yeah, that is quite something.
Imagine if he'd been like, yeah, open the door.
Like, how bad would you feel?
But that's just trust your gut feeling.
Yeah.
He was like, don't like this.
Don't like the vibe.
Yeah.
Don't do it.
I, firstly, excellently told.
Thank you. Well told. Well done. That was a great job.
I haven't got much to compete with. All right.
I just went savage. I just went how you delivered that sentence. Oh, okay.
Oh, I was convinced that the killer was pretending to be Brian. You really sold that very well.
I wrote it like that, didn't I? Good job. Well done.
I tried to like hold you off knowing it was the security gap for as long as possible.
Well, you did a great job.
Yeah.
What, I mean, so many decisions that she had to make to survive.
She could have died so many times in that story.
Yeah.
She could still be in the bathroom.
Yeah.
You can see why I got hooked on true crime from that story.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
That's a good introduction.
That's a brilliant introduction.
Yeah.
So, what are you putting in the survival toolkit?
Well done.
Well, remembered.
So so far, what have we got?
We've got the toilet roll.
We've sort of dismissed.
90s mobile.
phone.
Richard.
Richard.
We can't put people.
That's a rule we've set.
I think then the phone
is the thing that did it.
It's kind of the main thing is that she
had a phone.
With a bloody long battery,
I bet.
And probably Snake.
Do you remember Snake?
Are you?
No, I remember Snake.
Oh, you do?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I used to play it on my mum's phone.
What was your first phone?
Actually, it was like a brick
because I got a hand-me-down from my sister.
So it was like a brick, but I put a,
like, plastic case on it that you could press a button
and it would flip open.
So it was like, I could convince myself I had a flip phone.
But then my first, like, own one, I think was a Samsung flip phone.
Hold on.
So it wasn't actually a flip phone.
No, it just had a little extra.
It was like, it was just like, you know, business in the front, pie when you open it.
Like, so it like covered the keyboard.
Oh, and then you press the button and it'd be like, bing, here's your keyboard.
Oh, that's fun.
That's very like Barbie Playhouse mobile phone, isn't it?
Yeah.
And I had no one to text.
I was going to say, was it surreal phone?
No, it was. I played snake on it. Oh, oh yeah, okay. That was basically all I did. Do you remember when you could like make your own ringtones and you had to, oh my God, my God, you're so young. So back in the old days. I think my first ringtone was Amarillo by P.K. That was my first thing time. God, I bet that was annoying. And I played it all that long on my one night of my life of camping when I was part of Scouts.
Oh, just a long history of survival
Just a long history of being not like other girls
And I was like everybody
You need to listen to this song
It's so good
Sorry, sorry you made your own
Yeah, you used to have to get like the notes
And then you'd have to type them in
To your phone
Yeah, it was very hands-on
To play it like a
like how music works
how do you write our music
it was kind of like coding
wasn't it like you had to
it was coding before coding
um you had like
you knew we actually had so many skills
I was scouts you were a coder
right
a Nokia 33 10 coder
we're basically
oh I forgot the film
can't be that quick
Ocean's 11
Ocean's 11
but like they did the girl one reason
and it was at seven
Ocean 7 the numbers go down
shouldn't the numbers go up
Isn't that Ocean 30? I don't know.
I don't know.
I didn't see it.
I start a lot of sentences and I can't finish, Julia.
All right, let's get used to that.
Unless Neil's going to edit it out, we're going to have a lot of that.
Just trailing off.
Just me starting jokes, I can't finish.
Okay.
Just clip that up.
If we could clip that up, that'll be great.
Yeah, you used to get, like, the...
Each key had its own tone.
Mm-hmm.
And so you got told, like, which keys to press.
It'd be like...
I don't know
5, 3, 7, 2
you know, and then you put it all in
and then it plays it
And that's like coding, is it?
It's actually harder than coding
coding. Coding is just like ones and zeros
This is way more numbers than that
So, I mean, I don't want to say
I'm better than the coders
But kind of that is what I'm saying
Wow
Yeah, so isn't it funny that
Nat, it used to be, also sorry
I could talk about Phonist Rangers
You keep going
We don't do ringtones anymore
Used to be big business, ringtones
I feel bad for the people with shares and ringtones.
Do you remember, message, message?
Oh, yeah.
Message!
Oh, God, I bet you had all the annoying things.
Did you have crazy frog as well?
I don't remember.
I did have everything annoying there.
Yeah, I bet.
We got through it.
Well done.
The first dark one of the pod.
Okay, so now is the time.
We hear from you guys at home.
We've got our listener stories.
Julia looks stressed.
I'm just making them bigger so I can read it.
Sorry.
Do you need to get your glasses?
Super depressing.
I actually should have brought my glasses yet.
Okay.
We're not doing that.
Okay.
You ready?
I'm ready.
Okay.
Hit me with the listener stories.
Okay.
So our first listener story is from Agnes.
And they say, hi, Abby and Julia.
genuine near-death experience
well I'm glad it's a genuine one
yeah not one of those pretend ones
yeah hate those
waiting on the corner outside my flat
when a truck with a broken down black cab
strapped to it
sorry I'll say it again
okay genuine near death experience
waiting on the corner outside my flat
when a truck with a broken down black cab
strapped to
oh my god
oh my god
imagine if that happened during your story
a red flag
itself just fell
what is that telling me about this
oh god
that's a bad omen
that is a bad omen
genuine red flag
I'll just hold it
okay
as it drove past me
the taxi's back door
swung fully open
at head height
Missing my throat by two inches
She's got a ruler out
At that moment
Roughly
One sec I think this is going to be a good story one day
I want to be accurate
A woman screamed
The truck pulled over
Because he thought he'd decapitated me
Ironically
I was only there because I was waiting for a black cat
well it came and I take a lot of cabs so this would have been an incredibly on-branded way to die
well that's that's something isn't it is that the end that's the end she's just fine
that's the story wow yeah I do it does terrify me sometimes when things kind of overlap on the
pavement I feel like a few times I've merely been taken out by like a bus wing mirror
when things over oh I see yeah they're like just too kind of far they're a bit too big for the road
Yeah.
Like a few times I've had like a...
I'm surprised not more people are decapitated by bus wing mirrors.
Those bendy buses freak me out.
Bendy buses?
Yeah.
Oh God, are they not a thing anymore?
Jesus Christ.
You know, bend you, like they bend in the middle.
That's a tube.
No.
You get buses...
That's a cycle and district line.
Or you used to.
Get buses that have like...
Do you mean trams?
No, buses.
Full buses.
See?
There you go.
Oh.
With like an accordion in the middle.
That's a terrible idea.
Yeah.
How on earth can you keep control of the back?
It was like a slinky dog.
It's just fanning out.
That seems like an awful idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, that's just confirmed a fear I already have.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Okay, ready for the next one?
Yeah.
All right.
This one's from Emma.
Hi, guys.
Okay.
This is a story of a mistaken kidnapping and how I
survived the wrath of my
worried family. Fun.
Yeah. The wrath of family
has got to be worse than anything else
I got in so much trouble once when I went to
like the corner shop and park
and then like stayed but didn't text anyone.
Oh God. My family genuinely thought I was dead.
With this last week?
No, they genuinely couldn't care anymore. They do not answer my calls.
Since I moved out they just genuinely don't give a shit.
They live in their best life.
Oh, good for them.
Thanks.
In 2018, I traveled to Costa Rica on my own.
Well, that's my red flag, number one.
There we go.
So I set up an emergency SOS on my phone.
When you press the button, sorry, when you press the on button three times fast,
the phone sent your GPS location, a 20 second voice recording,
and a photograph to your emergency contacts, i.e. my mom, dad and sister.
What would you make your voice recording?
Help me, please.
Help, I'm dying.
Help!
No, I'd make mine all of the people who have wronged me, just so they feel bad.
Yeah.
I'd be like, this is your fault, and then just like lift up some names.
You know when people think about their Oscar acceptance speech?
Yeah.
And they think, like, all the people they'd thank.
It's the same speech.
It's just all the people I've wronged, that have wronged me.
Same.
Good.
It's my drama teacher, Mrs. Bailey.
Polyg-I hate you.
And then just a string of comedians. Keep it in. Keep it in. I don't care.
Sorry, Polly. I'm sure you're fine.
Can I tell you the story about Polly?
No. No. Okay. Oh, no, I said, can I?
Oh, sorry. Yeah, go on. I think he said, did it?
Niels meriously, like, how powerful is this woman?
Real gnome.
So, tell me the story.
she directed an Amdram production
How did I know
How did I know
The origin of this story
Was going to have something to do with amateur dramatics
Of good night Mr Tom
Great good
And I was in the cast
I was a child
I'd like to just
I didn't think you were going to be Mr Tom
Really clar am I
And
And
My God this feels so good to get this on my chest
I've only talked about this in therapy
and I obviously as a child you do am drum for fun right yeah for like a good
some good time having and we were doing like a rehearsal and I was at the side of the
room having a little chat right making people laugh because I didn't know at that time
she can't turn it off I just can't turn it off I'm an entertain I'm a born and
what can I say I like to make sure everybody's having a good time sure um she screams at me
and she is basically
she berates me
and then the girl who's like doing the scene on stage
and another adult
is her sister and she goes
just because you will
never be as good an actor
as her
to a child
right and I'm at the stage like
whoa
and then all the other
adults in the room
do nothing
I'm so confused as to wear this beef
come but like why she's annoyed she was just jealous because i was funnier than her is it because you
were talking whilst they were trying to be yeah because i was having a little chat side of stage and so
they were like how dare you and you were like how dare you right okay and i'm jam rehearsal
of condoms because you will never be as good as my sister too i'd like to say doesn't have her own
podcast right now and then next was the bomb shelter scene so we're all huddling in the bomb shelter
and I obviously start to cry because I'm pathetic.
Oh, you're a method actor, you're really getting into the sea.
No, I was really upset and embarrassed and quite mortified at what just happened
because I've just been called a bad actor, how dare she?
Age 13.
So, but like it was a good time to cry because I was like head down in a bombshells
and then I'm just like crying, surrounded, let me say again, by adults who do nothing, say
nothing. I mean, she's so scary. It's only like since that I look back and I'm like,
that's crazy. And I have genuinely promised for my whole life that I'm like, if I ever won
an award, I'd be like, who's a big man now, Bolly? Which maybe means that she's still won.
But she was looking for, um, what's the word, uh, alumni to write about being that and that
am drum. Does she still, is she still, is she?
She's still part of the Amdram?
Because if she is...
Abby, you've won.
You've absolutely...
Thank you, dear.
I think not being a part of that.
I just want her to know that.
And yeah, but she like...
My sister told me, she like wrote to my sister,
who's an ecologist,
being like, oh, we're looking for, like, alumni
to say, like, where they are now
and, like, have your, like, success stories and whatever.
And Emily's like, well, I only perform,
like, risk assessments at Rithersides.
and she hasn't the average of gymnastics hasn't really helped me like i'm one of the only ones that's like
in the performing industry and she has not messaged me because i bet she knows wow so that's my
survival story and nemesis number one on my list of nemesuses okay nemesi i should really know i have a lot
yeah as good so i don't know if you remember emma no she's traveled to costa
yeah yeah yeah yeah on her own she's got an sOS signal there's a voice note
a 20 second voice recording and a photograph i actually think that's an incredible idea
like i had no idea that you could do that yeah we need to set that up after that's really good
yeah unless this goes badly for her and maybe that's going to tell us why i mean you shouldn't
let's see so yeah 22nd voice recording and a photograph to your emergency contact i
my mum the photograph oh don't i have a whole bill on this is that whatever your phone can
see at the time or is it like just your no i think it's like a be real so it's like this is where they
are right that's that makes more sense than just like your profile pick but then like if it's in
your pocket there it's just going to be like yeah exactly unfortunately my on button
wasn't much of a team player and like to do its own thing
She's got a rogue on button
One day I was
Sunday
Is it just an off button?
Here she is
One day
She's got to turn it off
Cannot turn it off
You're jealous aren't you?
I'm so sorry Emma
You've sent us a story
I'm so sorry Emma
It's taking you time to type it up
And we're really just
shitting on over it
I'm so sorry
I'll finish my glass of urine
And it's really hit
It's kicking in
Julian mixed in these drinks
So
No, you don't blame the drinks.
No, it's just my personality.
Oh, God.
Should I go?
No, no.
Emma.
Right, Emma.
She's sunbathing.
She tried to, fucking out.
Right, I can do this.
I was sunbathing and tried to turn my overheated phone back on to take a shameless selfie.
Yes.
But she's written, which I really appreciate, three use.
but the button's stuck.
Oh.
So I got mad with it and threw it in my bag.
Yeah, that's my go-toe it as well, yeah, yeah.
Also, how annoying when your phone overheats.
Oh, my God.
Mine does it all the time.
I genuinely don't think I've ever been anywhere hot enough.
Really?
When I put it on the, like, side on my car, when I'm driving,
I've got a little position where I like to put it in my car.
And it, oh, it's so long.
Anyway.
Okay.
Life's hard, isn't it?
It's so hard.
Oh, my God.
Isn't it hard when your phone overheats?
Oh, poor me.
So the button's stuck.
She's getting mad of it.
She throws it in her bag so it could have a long, hard think about what it had done.
Cut to a few hours later, and I had sunstroke.
So really, the joke's on you, Emma.
The phone's like, ha-ha.
Nine hours of you, bed.
So passed out in my room and forgot to turn my phone back on.
Woke up another few hours later.
and turned my phone on to find 68 miss calls from my family.
Oh, no.
Of course, I had accidentally set off the SOS message
when I got mad at it earlier.
My sister was at a party,
and she had made her friends turn off the music
and sit in silence until she heard I was safe.
Oh, my God.
Why doesn't she just leave?
Yeah.
Bring the police, maybe.
She's just like, no, the whole party has to stop for me.
I can't go.
I can't leave the party and just go home.
I'll be honest.
That sounds like a full Abby Clark move.
Oh, yeah.
I don't get invited to parties.
Not anymore.
No, I never did.
I was too busy with Amdram.
Yeah.
And look at you now.
So she's at a party.
She's making everybody miserable
until they know that she's safe.
My mum had a breakdown
and my dad, an ex-police officer,
had already...
It's like taken.
Yeah.
Had already contacted Interpol.
And they had found my location and were on their way.
Oh, no.
In Nepal, don't fuck around.
Like, that's, when you, that's like big, that's a big deal.
I'm surprised they weren't like.
It didn't help my case that I found it all incredibly funny.
As have we.
And in my defence, the voice recording they received was of the German girls giggling on the
sun lounger next to me.
And the photo was my sweaty moon face looking really mad.
and disappointed.
Need us to say, I'm still not forgiven.
So they thought she'd been kidnapped by Germans?
Yeah.
What war?
Giggling.
I think this is.
So it's a voice note of like what's happening at that moment.
You don't get to choose your final words.
Yeah, sorry, bolly.
I thought it was like a, what do you bury in the ground?
Time capsule.
I thought it was like a time capsule.
You just get to pick your,
How you want to be remembered.
Your final word.
Your favorite song.
What they use for the article in the newspaper.
Oh yeah.
You know I want to pick that picture.
I have a whole bit on it.
Okay.
Needless to say, I am still not forgiven.
And I've been given a pre-departure lecture
every time I've been traveling since.
Do you know what would have helped there?
What's that?
A 90s mobile phone.
Because you can't do the SOS thing.
Yeah.
You just have to die.
Yeah.
No, but like it wouldn't have to.
have the rubbish on off button that gets locked.
Oh yeah.
They probably wouldn't get overheated.
It wouldn't get overheated.
Overheating was not a thing until smartphones.
You're right.
You're right, Abby.
Okay, if you've got a story that Abby can hijack.
And you all do.
I can find a way with any story.
Yeah.
Somehow she will steer it back to amateur dramatics.
It will link.
I've done a lot of productions.
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