Worst Case Scenario with Abi Clarke and Julia Stenton - Day 8 - Chris Duddy

Episode Date: July 12, 2023

A touch of glamour on this episode of Worst Case Scenario as Julia tells the tale of Hollywood cameraman Chris Duddy, who survived a helicopter crash into a live volcano whilst shooting the 1993 eroti...c thriller Sliver, starring Sharon Stone and Billy Baldwin.Toxic fumes, climbing volcanic walls, a second helicopter... Chris' story is arguably better than that of the film he was shooting!Watch the trailer for Sliver along with Abi and Julia here.Send in tales of survival from your own worst case scenario to help@wcspod.com and don't forget follow the podcast on Instagram @wcspod to see pictures mentioned by Abi and Julia on this episode and all past episodes!Theme tune by the brilliant Crizard who can be found on Instagram @crizards Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:17 Hear how they survive Trappled by a herd of buffalo Chaste with an axe by your new friend Joe Burried alive in a pile of snow It's not the worst case scenario. Hello. Welcome to Worst case scenario, I guess. Hiya.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Welcome. This is our podcast. We tell survival stories about people who found themselves in the worst case scenario and live to tell the tale. Or let us tell the tale. Yeah, we tell the tale. We tell it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Other people's stories that we've read online. We take the credit. Yeah. So last episode, we've all, we've had a sleepless week. Just waiting to hear the end of this, well, the beginning of this story about her trip to Kill Kenny Festival. It's not worth it. Whew. You can relax, guys.
Starting point is 00:01:17 We're finally getting. This is it? Yeah. People have been anticipating this more than the Barbie movie. Let me tell you. Mm-hmm. Go on then. All right, okay, no, okay, sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:30 I'm at a gig at Kukkani Festival. It's one of those festivals where it's like, lots of little different venues. It's stunning, by the way. If you get a chance to go. I'd love to. I loved it. They're in like, really like old community theatres
Starting point is 00:01:44 and beautiful theatres that just are in pubs. Like, why do they have that? Really cute little venues. Anyway, it's one of those where you kind of just turn up halfway through the gig because you've just come from another one. Right, yep. So I turn up to this gig
Starting point is 00:01:57 It's also one where there's no backstage Comedians just stand at the back But it's also quite a busy gig So audience members are also stood at the back Okay, yep The emcee I bet you hate that, don't you? Mingling with the riffraff for back
Starting point is 00:02:11 No, what I do... Where's my green room? No, what I do hate is after you've performed and then you have to go use the same toilet as them Because there is always a cue in the women's So you have to stand in a queue like yeah I just bared my soul on stage and now we just stood in a queue and you've either done well or not I was going to say yeah because either it's awkward because they're like oh well done
Starting point is 00:02:35 that was really good and you have to be like oh yeah thank you thank you oh if they don't say anything even worse even worse yeah um but no it hadn't been on yet so it's fine okay um but basically the MC host clearly no idea who I am all he what how dare he has he not heard of worst-case scenario. Unforgivable. The very new podcast. Which does need follows, rates, reviews, follows online at WCS pod.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Thank you very much. Just so that emcees know who I'm at you. Just so that emcees know who I am. Basically, all he knew was there was a woman on the bill. Good, right? Did you get introduced as the woman? No. Give it up for some woman.
Starting point is 00:03:16 But I turn up, it's a very hot room. I go out to the bar to like go over my set, cool down a bit. Yeah. Then come in just when the act before me, is on. Yeah. I see him tap another woman kind of in front of me on the shoulder and he goes, I'm going to bring you straight on. And she turns to him and goes, nods her head and goes, okay. And I turned to another comedian. I'm like, I thought I was on next. He was like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:41 you are. And it was like, oh, so what? And then the emcee turns around. He's like, oh, sorry. Oh, is it you? And I was just, you just tell an audience member, I'm going to bring you up now. I was just like, well no like you're she for and then he's like no I have no idea who she is he had just tapped a random audience member on the shoulder been like I'm gonna bring you straight on and she she's like this is my moment I've been I've been waiting at comedy gigs for 20 years for somebody to tap me on the shoulder actually was just like okay and I was like no please let her go on what a professional I want to see what this woman was planning to do when he just brought her straight on yeah no so then he brought me on as Amy
Starting point is 00:04:24 Instead of Abby Close He was in the right vibe Yeah So then I had to go on stage and be like Hi my name's not Amy It's Abby And then basically told the story
Starting point is 00:04:39 Of what just happened at the back of the room Yeah And then you know last ensued We all at a good time A couple of callbacks Smashed out Park Came up
Starting point is 00:04:49 The MC goes on Then tells the same story again as if not only can he not see me he also can't hear me he was not listening to your set he was not listening he goes on literally immediately on me
Starting point is 00:05:01 like you'll never guess what just happened I chucked this random woman at the back he almost told it in the exact same way I was like am I at least I did I said this right do I know who this no I think he was just drunk but I just so funny that this
Starting point is 00:05:19 woman was just like whatever you need I'll do a type five I want to see her type five I want to see it I want to know yeah we do 20s
Starting point is 00:05:29 I hope that she was ready to go close the show I was actually doing my Edinburgh hour no no it was like it was like a 10 minute wow
Starting point is 00:05:38 wow I bear my deacist darkest soul in the show you know but yeah I was like no please let her go on
Starting point is 00:05:50 yeah I want to I want to see of the cup. I wonder what was going through her head? Like, what does this guy want me to do? Is there a raffle I agreed to and I hadn't? I was just certain she was another comic. She was just immediately like, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Whatever you, I'm there. Let's do this. How lovely. But then she got really embarrassed everyone kept talking about and she left. Oh. So clearly not one for the spotlight. That was a real backfire.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Yeah. Bit sensitive, to be honest. She really crumbled under the pressure there. Yeah, she really did actually. She really, she didn't stand up to watch her. promise um so yeah that was my story i just think it's fun that was fun not worth wait in a week for worth the wait was it i have some news they please news i got an acting job this week congratulations do you want to know what it is to play um yes a member of an amdram group
Starting point is 00:06:46 Oh. It's the role I was born to Ray. I was going to say if ever there was a role. Wow. And she's the really bitchy one that gives everybody notes. Of course she is. Of course she is. Had they heard the podcast?
Starting point is 00:07:02 So when I say an acting job. Really more instinctive. More of a documentary kind of playing yourself type thing. Is this? So what's this for? I don't know if I should say. Because what if my stuff just get cut and then I'm never in it? Yeah, fair.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Is it a sitcom or... It's for a murder mystery? Oh my God. Yeah. So someone... Actually, maybe I can't reveal what happens. Yeah. Oh yeah, don't give away this.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Okay, so... I mean, rule one. All in one week, I got my first acting job. I also lost it. So this is the script. Oh, yeah. You read Graham. I really don't...
Starting point is 00:07:44 I signed a thing called an N-D-A. but that's probably not important. How exciting. Yeah. Wow. So you're really going to channel young Abby just happy. For this role.
Starting point is 00:07:59 She's got a current, current. Take that polly. Oh, I knew. How, beep. Neil, get the beep ready. Get the beep. He's already making notes. Um, wow.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah. I hope she sees it. I hope she's the dead body. Oh, God. I did get an email to do another self-tape, though, this week. Yeah. Do you want me to... I'll read you parts of it.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I can't read you all of it. Okay. But this was the worst day in my life. Great. Is this the character breakdown you're going to read out? Lovely. Acting has given and taken away in the same week. okay um so this is to my agent
Starting point is 00:08:52 hi andy hope this finds you well professional good um could we check abby's availability for blah blah blah blah blah for a new blah blah blah we'd love to gauge her interest in this project and what did she consider putting together a self-tape for us for the role of our heroines kick ass mother Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha that has made my day
Starting point is 00:09:22 I mean now you say it Shut up Get in the bin I literally replied to that email Just mother Oh thrilled I am thrilled That's very funny
Starting point is 00:09:36 That's so good Does it have a playing age I've already booked the Botox It's booked in I'm getting a new face Hey, you can play anything. Don't let anybody tell you different. I didn't tell you this either.
Starting point is 00:09:51 My birthday, still awaiting the present, by the way. Don't worry, take time. As am I. As am I. Mine was before yours. So. Anyway, I had like a little party. Also, thanks for coming.
Starting point is 00:10:07 She did it on a weekend and invited only comedians. No, you were, you just don't live in London. I wasn't free. I was gigging. you did it over a weekend yeah i was doing mr wolves in the evening that i run it was i did i should mean more than that anyway no so i did so basically i did invite um daniel fox comedian yes um but he had some gigs yeah so but we were just like hanging in the park um and then we went to pub quiz so i was like just drop in between your gigs because he was in
Starting point is 00:10:42 the area. But obviously he was at a gig so he brought like the other comics on the bill because it was kind of like their dinner break. Right. And I hadn't met the other comics, but it was fine. I was like, hi, welcome, yeah, plus chance. Makes me look like I have my friends. Not a problem. And but then one of the girls was clearly trying to like, she probably felt like a bit in school. She didn't know anyone. She was trying to make up for it, bring a little something to the, to the event. One of the comedians. Yeah. Yeah. And she said, okay, So what I quite like to do on birthdays is get the person to look back on their year
Starting point is 00:11:18 and say what their like favorite moment was from that year. And she meant so like what you'd do, Abby, is like you'd look back on your year of being 30. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Who is this person? I need to send this person here. A little.
Starting point is 00:11:42 gift basket, because that is phenomenal. So she thought, you were 31? Yeah. I don't enjoy that no one's gone, what? Yeah. She said, you look back on your year being 30. And we all thought she was joking, right? Everyone was a little tense, but everyone was like, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Starting point is 00:12:07 And she went, no, no, no, so you look back on your day. And I went, I'm not turning 30. she kept going. I was like, I'm not doing great. And then I tried to lean into it. I was like, made a joke. I was like, I'm actually 15. And she was like, yeah. So, so looking back on your 30s, what? And then fight. And you could just see everyone getting tense and tense and tensed. They were like, oh my God. She genuinely thinks Abby's starting 31. What do we do? And then I had to be like, no, she's not. She's not turning 31. She's not 31. And this girl was mortified. She was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Like I just, I just, I just, I
Starting point is 00:12:41 thought, I heard you say earlier that you were turning 31. I thought that's what you'd said. She also picked the wrong person. It is my gym is in Tokyo R&A. And because I think earlier she was like, how old are you turning? And I said, I don't want to say. And I don't know how. That sounds like 31.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But apparently it does. You didn't want to say at your own birthday party. Industry people with that journey. Oh, God. I mix in circles. oh god oh i don't know why i've set this up as such a thing um but yeah so a horrifying few weeks for me and my age complex yeah yeah that's that's phenomenal that's really that's really made my day i knew you'd enjoy i really enjoyed that i like to look back on the worst moments of my life
Starting point is 00:13:34 i thought that story was going to go a slightly different way i thought you were going to say um so she suggested we were all sat around the table and she suggested everybody say something nice about Abby. Yeah. People would have struggled. Go on. Say something nice about me, Julia. Sounds like most people didn't know you who were at your party. Okay. Well, because my real friends didn't turn up. Thanks for coming, Neil. They're working. They're all working. Do on a weekday. This is why we've put in our house to make advert works nine to five. I just need I need someone to be around. Go on. Say something nice about me then. Oh, wow. Can you do it? Um
Starting point is 00:14:11 see Go on try then do you say something nice about me Abby Clark yeah is a great mom
Starting point is 00:14:20 um you can go so you can go so laughter Um Right I'm actually I'm really excited
Starting point is 00:14:34 to tell you this one This is one of my favour so far Oh my goodness So it's 1992 Uh huh You're obviously about 15. Oh, I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Why did I tell you? You've had the first... Why did I give you this? Of your three children. My kick-ass heroin daughter. At least she's not a little bitch. Well, okay. Give her time.
Starting point is 00:15:04 So, Chris Duddy is 31 years old. He is a cameraman. Similar to you. It made it so. Same sort of time of life. I want to go home. Chris Duddy,
Starting point is 00:15:27 31 year old cameraman. A lot in common with you right now. Working on a film called Sliver. Why did you... Is that relevant? No, I just... Struggled to say it.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Sliver. Because I was looking at it and my brain says say silver, but it's not. So I had to take a minute. So is it sliver or sliver? Sliver. Like silver, but the L is in the wrong place. Strange. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Even I know that's spelled wrong. All right. So that's the film that they're working on in Hawaii. It's currently shooting in Hawaii. Lovely. Starring Sharon Stone and Billy Baldwin. Billy Baldwin is like a periphery Baldwin brother So you've got obviously Alec
Starting point is 00:16:15 The Don Then you've got Stephen Father of Haley Bieber No way This whole time I thought Haley Bela... Oh my God This whole time I thought Haley Bieber was Alec Baldwin's door
Starting point is 00:16:32 No Ireland Baldwin is Is Alec Baldwin's daughter I never knew there were multiple baldwins Oh there are so many baldwins and they all look like off-brand versions of Alec. It's so, they all look like... That's kind of how siblings work.
Starting point is 00:16:46 You'd find them in the Middle Isle of Liddle. Like, that's how they do. I love the Middle Isle of Liddle. Oh, mate, don't we started. Don't get we started. Real original take here. Yeah. Middle of Liddle of Slaps.
Starting point is 00:16:58 That's a real 31-year-old tape. Yeah. I'm starting to see how I showed my age. I'm a Gen Zad. Yeah, sure. So Sharon Stone, Billy Baldwin. they are in the film Sliver. It has a rating of 5.1 out of 10 on IMDB.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Not good. It won worst picture at the Stinkers Bad Movie Awards. Amazing. That year Sharon Stone also won worst actress. Oh. However, Billy Baldwin did win. Billy Baldwin, what a name. He won Most Desirable Mail at the MTV Movie Awards.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Can I Google Billy Baldwin? Of course you can. Thanks. Let me know what you. you think if you want to see a picture of Billy Baldwin follow us online at WCS pod yeah um now I uh I haven't defined I haven't decided if he's hot or not yet cannot carry on until I know wow he really doesn't like a different an off-ran version of Valik Baldwin oh no yeah a lot of these pictures comparing him to Trump Google the film sliver am I allowed to I thought
Starting point is 00:18:09 I wasn't allowed to. No, you can do it now. Okay. I just might show you the trailer. Oh, fun. Ooh, sexy. Um, no, I'm still not. He's not your most desirable male.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Desirable. No. A long face. It is a long face. It is a long face. It's as if Alec Baldwin's face has been stretched. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:33 It's like, you know, when a picture doesn't fully fit the frame, you have to just stretch it out a little bit. exactly like that so i haven't seen the film she's beautiful though isn't she oh my god this is and this is just after she's done basic instincts so she this is prime stone yeah she's great we're just grabbing her boob in this one it's so saucy like it's mad but like not in a sexy way just like he's her bra she's there for support they're just watching the screen he's just holding them from behind oh yeah yeah just It's the way it keeps his hands.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yeah. It's like pockets. What I can gather about the film is just Sharon Stone and Billy Baldwin banging in lots of various different locations. Yeah, that's what I'm getting from this too. I've got some IMD... Any older poop a lot. Yeah. I've got some IMDB trivia.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Love IMDB trivia. Me too. Okay. I just love IMDB. So... I spend a lot of time there. While filming a kissing scene, Sharon Stone bit Billy Baldwin's tongue with such force that he couldn't talk properly for a few days after. afterwards. So, according to director, the director, Sharon Stone and Billy Baldwin disliked
Starting point is 00:19:46 each other and demanded that their scenes be filmed separately wherever possible. That's why there was... When I show you the trailer, it's going to be, like, I don't know how that was even possible, because they are literally getting off the whole time. But they hated each other. They hated each other. Sometimes sounds really hot though. I think this is the best, the best one. The script originally called for full male frontal nudism. but Billy Baldwin changed his mind after the scenes had been shot. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:20:18 It was a cold day on set, I think. Poor Billy. Someone viewed themselves away. The HD cameras did not. We've all been there. Oh, God. I literally need to update my phone. Like, it's quite old now,
Starting point is 00:20:36 but I genuinely don't want to because I don't want cameras with any money. well hd it's enough you know i quite like the slight blah are only going to get older it'll be grandmothers next oh we need to stop this could be detrimental to my career right do you want to this trailer absolutely i mean it's terrible radio but it's a podcast it's a podcast okay we'll watch the trailer and you can watch along and we'll put the link in the episode notes uh i just want to at Abby's impression. Are we doing Gogglebox?
Starting point is 00:21:13 We're doing goggle box. But just for trailers. I'd actually love that. I'd love that. I love that trailer. Okay, ready? It's annoying because it won't let me. Full screen, please.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Oh. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Sucking the finger up top. You like playing games. You like playing games. Her dreams. I like playing games. I like playing games.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Her fantasy. Is it good enough to meet. It seems like his with her all. but he's not he is do we know what you're doing we do you're afraid of me
Starting point is 00:21:45 do I look like a girl who would be frightened of you you like to watch watch this that's great I'd love to watch that yeah the critics did not agree
Starting point is 00:21:59 panned university but it did very well at the box office oh then who gets I particularly like in the trailer how there's a shot of Billy Baldwin in bed tapping the bed like a come hither tap and then it cuts to Sharon Stone on a sofa doing the same thing like it's a standoff they're both just sat
Starting point is 00:22:18 come here but they're not speaking it's just the tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap yeah ridiculous that's why two dominant people can't be in a relationship there you go that's your problem you got to have one push over okay why do you think all my friends are so nice so this is the film that they're working on that chris is working on yeah he is working for 49 year old cinematographer mike benson they've worked together before mike is a very established cinematographer uh-huh um he's worked on star wars and blues brothers terminated two wow yeah he's a big deal but not terminate one not terminate one i know just a sequel's guy yeah um he so the night before he he he he he he
Starting point is 00:23:09 He takes, he's very generous. He takes the whole camera department out for dinner the night before. And he sees Chris ordering a second cocktail. And he's like, he's Chris again. Chris is the cameraman. He's the 31 year old cameraman. Mike is the 49 year old cinematographer. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:27 There are quite a few characters in this, so it's good to keep track. Okay. So Chris, the cameraman, who we started with. He's ordering a second cocktail. And Mike is like, no more drinks. for him he's working tomorrow and Chris is like uh you've just ordered a second drink and he's like yeah we can't both be hung over yeah real legend real legend so oh bitch yeah so Chris but like you know it's banter they're just fun bit of fun that's what we call it when we're horrible
Starting point is 00:23:58 exactly just bit of fun just fun chill out a bit of fun so Chris and Mike the next day are due to film one of the final shots of the film uh and spoiler alert it it's It's where two of the characters end up flying in a helicopter over an active volcano. So the last member of the band is Craig Hoskin, who is the go-to guy in Hollywood for flying helicopters. A helicopter flies over a volcano in Sliver. Yeah. Right, can't, from the trailer, I can't see how that's relevant.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Right, yeah. Yeah, they missed that. Throw a volcano in, why not? So Craig also... They were like, we can't shoot them together. We need some fill of scenes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What else can we put in?
Starting point is 00:24:42 Volcano. Craig knows his shit. He worked on Jurassic Park 3. Do you think the volcano is just like some cinematic... Symbolic for their relationship? Some symbolic imagery. Yeah. No, I was going to say ejaculation.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Oh, okay. But okay. Yeah, maybe. I thought you were going to like their fiery relationship. Well, maybe, but I was imagining they were having like a sex scene and then like right of the climax cut to volcano. Volcano. Love that. see your film. Thank you. Yeah, that's good. No, that wasn't what they were going for.
Starting point is 00:25:14 That's what I would have got for. But yeah, no, I like that. So the 22nd of November, Chris, Mike and Craig are in the production office getting briefed by associate producer Laura Viterman. So Laura is no nonsense. She's the one who's organized everything. She arranged the permit. So it's obviously very hard to get a permit to fly over an active volcano. So she's sorted all that stuff out. made sure that all the health and safety things were in place and everything was like signed off by the relevant authorities. Why has it got to be active? Why can't you fly over an inactive volcano? There's no lava spewing out of an inactive volcano. You might as well just film a hill. Why not? It's green screen. This was 92.
Starting point is 00:26:01 There's no green screen. So, I mean, I think there were green screens. Just film a little science project, little bicarb, vinegar, cut between them. Well, they could have avoided a lot of mess. It seems so stupid to use an actual live volcano. I mean, if you want to get the, if you want to get somebody like Billy Baldwin signed onto your film, there better be a bloody active volcano involved. They definitely aimed for Alec. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Yeah, for sure. Every Baldwin who's gotten a part in any film, they've been aiming for Alec and settled for Stephen or Billy. So they're being briefed by Laura. she tells them they only have a short window of time to get this shot because the weather is going to turn nasty there's a big storm coming in there's a big storm coming there's a big storm coming so they've got past the health and safety because as long as they get it done in the morning before the storm sets in then they're fine they've only got to do one shot really so it's
Starting point is 00:26:56 it's not a huge undertaking i mean obviously there sounds like it's going to be so the lads are in the helicopter flying over killer wea which is the most active volcano on the big island of Hawaii. This is so stupid. It's, because it's guaranteed to be erupting and that's what they need.
Starting point is 00:27:13 They just want it bubbling, right? They want it bubbling, sure. Yeah. It's most recent eruption started on the 7th of June this year and ended on the 19th. So very recent.
Starting point is 00:27:25 It's been bubbling away. They actually filmed over a volcanic cone called Poo-O-O which was... Yeah, I don't need to brag. Thank you. Just like, I don't.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I listened to that, somebody saying that, about 15 times. Yeah, so this is like a co. So Kilauea is the volcano. And then within the volcano, you get like smaller volcanoes along the rift. And they're called cones. And so they were flying over Pua, which is one of the cones. And that has been continuously erupting since 1983. Oh, sorry, it continuously erupted from 1983 until 2018.
Starting point is 00:28:06 um like and then what happened it's just stopped and then and then recently obviously this year i think it erupted in march and then in june it's fired back up yeah it's the longest lived rift zone eruption for 200 years that must be exhausting yeah for the volcano yeah oh every day that's a lot before a film starts production in hawaii a priest blesses the shoot and before flying over kill the way. That's never a good sign. That's a red flag. You'll get a priest in. Maybe it's not worth doing. Yeah. I think it's just like a nice thing that they do like whether they're not flying over a volcano. That sounds like every time my mum flies and she sends us a goodbye text every single time. No, does she? Any time. She flew to Edinburgh to come to see my show and she was
Starting point is 00:28:55 to be fair though her goodbye text, you know, top line. Yeah, she says I love you. Most of the text just about the cats where the cats are where to find them where their food is who's the contact number where the key is to get in to make sure the cat's okay
Starting point is 00:29:10 the cat's her favourite child the priorities yeah that's yeah fair her will all to the cats leave it all to the cat just make sure Jekyll is looked after
Starting point is 00:29:23 okay so and then if you are flying over Kilauea there is a tradition that you have to throw an offering into the volcano for Madame Pelle, who is the goddess of volcanoes and fire. Do you want to guess what the offering is that they throw in? A melon. A melon?
Starting point is 00:29:50 I'm just thinking of... What was the thought process behind that? That was one. So I was thinking Ice Age with the do-dose and they drop out, they're like, the last melon. Is it a melon? it's definitely a melon. You're asking the wrong age group.
Starting point is 00:30:05 The Dota's, they're fighting over a melon and then when they fight they drop it down a like volcano and then they're like, the last melon. Oh, okay. I think this tradition has been going longer than the film Ice Age has been out.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Are you kidding? Ice Age? That was ages ago. God. It's not a melon. It's not a melon. I'm sorry. You gave me no clues.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Yeah, no. It was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a guess. Thank you. You made a guess. I asked for a guess and you made one. Do you want me to tell you what it was? It was fine. It was a bottle of gin.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Okay. Yeah. Wrapped in tea leaves. That was quite nice, isn't it? I wouldn't mind an offering of, would you go for a cheap gin or would you get good stuff? Well, this is it, isn't it? You, you want to make a good impression on any goddess. But it's also an absolute waste.
Starting point is 00:30:55 But also it's a massive waste, yeah. I think I'd go cheap. Maybe. buy an expensive gin decanter. Oh, so you think Madame Pele is going to be baffled by the bottle? She'd be like, oh hello.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Wouldn't you be? This is all right. You're going to know? If someone gives me a fancy gin bottle even if it tastes like piss, I'm like I don't want to... This must be the good stuff. I don't want to break your heart, Abby. But when you're throwing a bottle of gin into an active volcano the bottle does not survive. Neither does the gin, I'd argue.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I mean, where are we drawing the line here? Well, yeah, it makes sense. I mean, we are walking a very fine line here. Very much, though. Where do you want to stop, Julia? I'm just going to carry on with the story, I think, have it. All right. So it's Chris's job to throw in the bottle.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Uh-huh. He gets the go-ahead from Craig, the pilot, who's lined it all up. And he throws it in, but a gust of wind... No. Knocks the bottle off course, and it smashes just outside the rim of the crater. Oh, she's going to be pissed about that. She's not going to like it. Mike's like, ha ha ha, good throw, bro.
Starting point is 00:32:05 You better not have pissed off Madame Pele. Oh my God. Inside the crater is like a lot of toxic smoke. It's just billowing out. Loads of toxic smoke coming from the vents at the bottom. And now it's got a bit of gin in there as well. Yeah, a little bit of gin. Well, no, because it didn't make it in.
Starting point is 00:32:23 But it broke. The gin is outside the crater. Oh, not even, okay. Yeah. Not even in the, no, no, no. That is a shame. Yeah. Such a nice bottle to go to waste.
Starting point is 00:32:34 There's also a lava pond bubbling. Inside the crater is unpredictable. The vents burst and hot smoke streams out without warning. So visibility is like dependent on the wind and which way the wind is blowing the toxic smoke. Yeah, how are you going to get a good shot with all the smoke? Right, exactly. So they're all prepped and ready to get the shot they need.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Craig takes them down into the crater because the smoke is going whether so they need to go lower in order to get a good shot. So Mike gives Chris the nod and the camera starts rolling. They get the shot and fly back to base camp, the end. You've done what I did. Jokes. They do fly back to base camp. They review the footage.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Okay. Mike's like, yeah. Is Madame Pelle like in it? Yeah. She's at the back. Yeah. Oh, that'd be horrible. Middle fingers up from Bandaumpelle.
Starting point is 00:33:29 She's just like, holds a sign like, where's my fucking gin? Yeah. So it's fine. The footage is fine. Okay. There's no Madame Pelle. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:33:38 But Mike's a bit of a perfectionist. And he's like, oh, I think we can do better. So let's go for a second take. And obviously, this is pretty normal in the film industry. So Mike and, sorry, Chris and Craig were like, yeah, no problem. Let's just, let's get another one in. Okay. So they fire up the helicopter and head back.
Starting point is 00:33:59 The storm is kind of. coming, lest we forget. Oh god, yeah, you've got a hard end. Yeah, you've got a hard out. Yeah. Yeah. So they've got to be quick, but the weather is changing and the wind is forcing those toxic plumes of smoke down, further down into the bowl of the crater. So it's making it even more difficult to shoot because they really want to get that lava,
Starting point is 00:34:22 but the smoke is really like, the visibility is very poor. So they have to go further down into the crater. With this brings potential new problem in that the toxic smoke is made up of sulfur dioxide, water vapor, carbon dioxide and hydrogen sulfide. And if the helicopter gets too close to the smoke, these gases will deprive the engine of oxygen, which it needs to burn the fuel.
Starting point is 00:34:46 So the engine is just going to cut out if it comes into contact with the smoke. No oxygen, okay. No oxygen, yeah. So just as they're about to roll the camera for the second take, the wind changes, and before they know it, the helicopter is engulfed in the volcanic smoke. they're all choked
Starting point is 00:35:02 but that shouldn't be a risk you shouldn't be in a place where just a change of wind that could happen if that means the helicopter's fucked don't do it why are you in the situation where that could happen
Starting point is 00:35:13 yeah okay they're all choking on the fumes Craig can't see a thing so he tries Craig the pilot can't see anything so he tries to turn the helicopter to escape the smoke
Starting point is 00:35:23 when he realizes the engine is failing yeah well you said that would happen he I did he goes into survival mode and turns off the engine but this is clever
Starting point is 00:35:35 so he uses the weight of the helicopter and the blade so if the blades stop moving then they provide a lot of resistance like air resistance so the helicopter slows the helicopter coming down right and which actually really helps
Starting point is 00:35:51 them to sort of they crash obviously but it lands in it literally above lava so in the crater there's the lava pool and then there's dried lava around it and they are so incredibly lucky because the
Starting point is 00:36:08 not only does the helicopter lands upright wow yeah which is mad but it also lands 45 I'm jumping 45 meters away from the lava pool
Starting point is 00:36:25 which is the length of two tennis courts you're welcome it's quite long it's a massive this is a massive crater two tennis courts are still a lot closer to active lava
Starting point is 00:36:37 than I would like to be for sure and the the ground but it's still not one tennis court but the ground between you yeah is like
Starting point is 00:36:45 bursting up steam you could turn into you could stand on a vent and it could burst up and burn your whole body oh no yeah it's not
Starting point is 00:36:54 it's not great um Oh, I've, I had a very dramatic crash. Okay, so no, no, tell us the crash. So he turns off the, so the blades create some resistance and slow down their fault. They're now spinning out of control, clinging on for dear life. The helicopter crashes into the wall of the crater, breaking off the blades and forcing them away from the edge and further into the middle of the crater. So it was, it was falling into the edge, great, because you want to be as far away from the pool as possible.
Starting point is 00:37:26 and all it does is break off the blades and force them further into the middle. They hit the ground and by an enormous stroke of luck, they've landed upright and on a bit of crater that isn't the lava pond. Perfect. So, but just this has happened in a matter of seconds, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you're just filming for a film, poof, now you're in a volcano. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And you can't breathe, you can't see anything. It's a complete white out because they're in the smoke. that just shouldn't be a possibility you've got to get those shots though Abby but if it's just a change of wind that shouldn't it all yeah
Starting point is 00:38:07 you said this lady did a risk assessment did she did she though I'd like to see it yeah I mean that is what the fire brigade were like this is not cool and she's like hey we got all the permits
Starting point is 00:38:20 we don't come after me I'm coming after yeah So they have no idea how close they are to the lava They make their way towards the edge of the crater But their lungs are desperately trying to dispel the poisonous gases They're breathing in They're going to go, they've lost the helicopter
Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah, exactly They reach the wall of the crater and it is high It's a tall, like they're in deep They're at the bottom, it's hot and yeah But another stroke of luck here Is that there is a stream of fresh air coming from the top of the crater. And without this, they definitely would have suffocated.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Right. So sticking to the edge is like a smart move. Okay. They can now see they landed about 45 minutes, or two turnus course, minutes, meters away from the vent and lava pond. It would seem their only option is to climb their way out. They estimate the wall is about two to 300 feet high, which is, thanks for asking.
Starting point is 00:39:23 the same height as Big Ben. Big Ben is 310 feet high. Wow. Yeah. Holy fuck. Yeah. And they ain't got no ropes. No ropes. Because that's about to be like, I'd quite fancy that.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I like a rock climb. Not without a rope I don't. Not this way. I'm being big big Ben's name of the bell. Oh, sorry. Oh, for goodness. Oh, there's always worn, isn't there? Neil's just correct, producer Neil has just corrected me.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Big Ben is the name of the bell. What's the tower called? Elizabeth Tower. Oh. So, it's about the size of Elizabeth Tower. What is Elizabeth Tower, you ask? It's where Big Ben is housed. Oh, Big Ben.
Starting point is 00:40:07 So you meant Big Ben, yeah. So unnecessarily mean. He's just trying to help us out. Because we're definitely going to get comments. Actually, Big Ben is the bell. They'll all be Neil. well now we know now we know
Starting point is 00:40:26 invite us to your pub quizzes because now we know something I am so aggie today you are aren't you I think it's because you're hot you're hot and I've been called old yeah
Starting point is 00:40:34 I'm old I'm going through the menopause it's all it's all happened so quickly it's all escalated she was 31 then a mother and now she's going through
Starting point is 00:40:45 menopause and now I'm barren and just going through the marbles so back to the story Chris is the youngest and fittest So he takes the lead But it's a very difficult climb
Starting point is 00:40:57 As you can imagine So Chris takes off climbing He's the youngest, he's the fittest The other two sort of trail behind Right so the problem is Is that these rocks So volcanic rocks are incredibly sharp So grabbing onto them is like
Starting point is 00:41:09 Grabbing onto like razor Sharp and are they not really hot rocks as well Or is it okay? I don't think they're yeah I think it's they can hold They can touch them it's okay But it's not very comfortable at all And also they're not very stable
Starting point is 00:41:23 Also, if you don't climb regularly, as a regular climber. Oh, please, yeah. If you don't climb regularly. Educate me. Go on. Like, even if you just take, like, two weeks off, I'd say you last like 20 minutes, even before you get blisters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:38 And it's like so uncomfortable. So. Oh, these guys are definitely getting blisters. That's what I mean. And like, how long is it going to take for them climb that? I'll tell you. Oh, okay. I'll tell you if you let me tell the story.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I was just adding some expert knowledge. No, actually. that is that is good that is good thank you um it's always really annoying because you pay for a full session and then you have to go on oh no oh you get blisters like forming as you're doing yeah like a me that's why so like if you climb regularly it's fine your hands get all hard and then it's fine but like if you take a bit of time off and then you go back you just like immediately just blisters and then you can't climb for longer enjoy it so presumably when you start you get blisters as well yeah yeah that would put me off anything that gives you blister like
Starting point is 00:42:21 yeah not for me Well, I don't really climb anymore because I start getting my nails done. Yeah, so the rocks are really unstable because volcanic rock, it just sort of like settles. It doesn't, it's not, you know, it's not formed over tired. It's like the lava's thrown up and then it dries. Oh, God, yeah. So they break off easily and are incredibly sharp. He, so Chris powers on and Mike and Craig follow behind.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Chris is doing actually pretty well. He stops every now and then to check in with Mike and Craig who are further down, but still, they're still managing. he climbs over a boulder and sees the crater that he's climbing is actually bowl-shaped. Can I ask? Yes. Do they all survive? Yes. Okay, few.
Starting point is 00:43:03 They all survive. Spoiler alert. They all survive. I just suddenly realised we started with Chris. Yes. And I was like, oh no. Is it only Chris that gets out? No, they all survive.
Starting point is 00:43:14 The crater is bowl-shaped, which means that it was at the bottom, it was a gentler climb. and then as you get past halfway... There's an overhang. Kind of. Yeah, it's like... It's very sheer. Sorry, let's just climb a lingo. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:43:38 He looks down. I went on a first date climbing once. Oh, did you? Yeah. So he looks up and down and there's no clear route and then he grabs onto the rocks As they brought, he grabs on to the...
Starting point is 00:43:51 Only because my butt looked good in the harness. And you're still together. Oh no. That's nice, though. That's a good date. Was it a good day? Was it your idea or his idea? Yeah, obviously my idea.
Starting point is 00:44:08 I would only ever do something I'm good at. Right, sure. Was he good at it? He was like not so bad it was an ick. Okay. But I was better. The ideal situation. yeah I know nice we date for like three months okay you actually know him um is he a comedian
Starting point is 00:44:29 yeah yeah yeah yeah i know i know yeah he's fit i'd say he's got a really good job yeah yeah yeah yeah you went club oh it's what a what a what a button of harness does for you three months guess you're a lawyer baby Oh, good. I hope he listens to this. I'm so warm. Okay, where am I? So he's, right, so he's realized the wall is very sheer now and he is, essentially he's stuck.
Starting point is 00:45:04 So he shouts down to Mike and Craig telling them to stop, like to not follow him because there's no route out from where they are. Oh my God, that's so stressful. Craig realizes that he never got to send out the Mayday message as they were going down, so no one will know that they're missing. Where's this risk assessment lady? Yeah, well, she's just back at the base thinking that they're getting on fine. But she'll notice they don't come back.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Well, eventually she might. Yeah. The gasses are making breathing almost impossible. They won't make it that long. So if they do wait for people to miss them, they'll die. They can't afford to wait. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Craig decides the only option is to try and make it back to the helicopter.
Starting point is 00:45:50 get onto the radio and call for help he takes a big breath it's another they've got to go back decision yeah exactly so they take a big he takes a big breath holds it and drops back down into the bottom of the crater he runs over to the helicopter but the air is too toxic he looks around and sees a small a small platform and he legs it over to the platform and the air is slightly better because it's a little bit higher it's slightly better Mike calls out to him to check if he's okay, and he's coughing and puking. Oh, no. But he's still alive.
Starting point is 00:46:26 He's still alive. Again, he takes a deep breath and runs back to the helicopter. He gets there and everything is pretty much fucked, except for the radio. Thank God. He turns it on and attempts a May Day call, but it's dead. Oh, my God. He frantically looks around for something he can use for power. He finds a torch, but the batteries voltage is too low.
Starting point is 00:46:48 he finds a camera and then so he's looking around and in the back there's the camera bag and in the camera bag is a camera battery which has the right voltage the same as the radio so he grabs it
Starting point is 00:47:00 and a pair of pliers might be something for the and he's doing all of this one he can't breathe and he's vomiting and he can barely see oh my god yeah
Starting point is 00:47:08 wait who's this again Craig the pilot so he grabs the battery he grabs the battery and the pliers runs back to the platform he takes the back off the battery and strips the plastic insulation
Starting point is 00:47:25 off the wires so that they're exposed and then he runs back to the helicopter pulls down the leads for the radio and then does the same he strips the wires of the insulation so that they're exposed twists them all together so that they're all connected
Starting point is 00:47:40 like the circuit is closed isn't it amazing and then like turns on the radio and it turns on, it's working. So he like jumpstarts it? Essentially. And the other lads just hanging off the side of the wall right now. Yeah. So Chris is halfway up the wall. Mike is slightly further down and Craig is kicking ass. Just doing a little science experiment in a helicopter. Yeah, exactly. A little potato clock while he's at it. Whilst he's puking. Whilst he's puking. Whilst he... I can't do anything whilst I'm peaking. Oh my God, me too. I'm so pathetic.
Starting point is 00:48:15 When I'm ill I really lean into it I bet I go method I go for like Anne Hathaway Lomas You know Shave the head I'm going for an Oscar when I'm ill I don't even do like the little boys You know
Starting point is 00:48:30 I bet that is insufferable I mean it's actually quite adorable It's nice for anyone just to see me weak Yeah yeah yeah Because I'm usually so intimidated It's unstoppable normally, aren't you? Oh, God, I am awful.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Okay, so he's got the radio working. He's good to go. He kills out May Day. He's like, May Day, May Day, we've crashed inside Poo-U-O-O. He hears a voice come over the radio. And the voice is like, you've crashed inside the volcano and you're alive. And he's like, yes, yes, coming at us.
Starting point is 00:49:11 But not for long. Yeah, hurry up. And when the helicopter pilot Don Shear, new character, when he finds out that his friend Craig is stuck inside the crater, he jumps into action and fires up his helicopter, taking a park ranger along for help. Even when he's just heard that it's not very good for helicopters right now. Exactly. But there's no other way to get them, really. So, yeah, he gets in his helicopter and but like before, the storm is getting worse. The storm is forcing the, like the pressure from the
Starting point is 00:49:43 storm is forcing the smoke even further down into the crater so yeah you just can't see anything don is going to have to fly even further down into the crater than they had to and as he does this fumes start to fill the helicopter and don't begins to get woozy oh my god just before he passes out the park ranger puts an oxygen mask on him why don't start with the oxygen mask right have it on the whole time yeah yeah do know just want to feel that high you get too much oxygen So then he's back. He's back in the zone. Yes, Don. Chris, Mike and Craig can hear the helicopter, but they can't see it. Chris is still stuck halfway up the crater wall. Mike is 50 feet underneath him in a little alcove that he's found where the air is like a little bit fresher
Starting point is 00:50:34 because it's sort of protected. Not very visible though. Not very visible. And he's got his head in his t-shirt like a little tent. Which I didn't. I just found that really like, it is a good move. It is a good move, but isn't that really like, oh. I do that if there's just a bad smell in the room. Oh my God, me too. On the tube, every time. Like, you know when there's a bad smell on the tube?
Starting point is 00:50:53 I think it's because I am armpit height. Yeah. And so the tube is not a fun place for me. That's a bad place here. Really bad. On hearing the helicopter, Craig runs back to his helicopter and jumps back on the radio so that he can contact Don.
Starting point is 00:51:10 So the two helicopters can now communicate. Yeah. And so he sort of directs Don to where they are. Right. Where the helicopter is, anyway. He makes, so he makes contact. Don tells him he's circling above the crater, waiting for the wind to change,
Starting point is 00:51:28 knocking the toxic fumes in a different direction. It happens. And, sorry, Craig is like, okay, but let me just tell the others that they need to come here, but it happens too quickly. The wind changes. So Don's like, I'm coming in.
Starting point is 00:51:41 There's no time. Yeah. So he comes in. he makes the descent which is like crazy dangerous like the fact that he did this is so insane and brave
Starting point is 00:51:52 Craig calls out to the others but they can't hear him over the helicopter blades Craig makes a dash for it running through the smoke coughing and spluttering he makes it to Don and the Park Ranger
Starting point is 00:52:03 pulls him into the helicopter he's in and he's out he gets Craig and he's out then Craig is begging Don to go back for the others but he tells him like the earliest they can go back is tomorrow because the storm is literally on their tail.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Shut up. Yeah. Shut up. Yeah. I know. Imagine the guilt you would feel you're safe in the helicopter and your two friends are, it's still there until the next day. Also, what are they going to do now?
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yeah, exactly. They're on a wall. Yeah. And they don't even know he's gone? No. So what do they do, Julia? Well, Chris calls out to Craig to check in on him, because obviously they've been keeping in contact
Starting point is 00:52:45 and they know that Craig is in the more dangerous position further down. Yeah. And so every now he's been saying, yeah, I'm okay. I'm just running back. Oh, I've got the radio working. Oh, I'm just doing this. And then they just stop hearing from Craig. Yeah, they can think Craig's dead.
Starting point is 00:52:57 And before they were hearing him like coughing and puking and stuff. So they're like, oh, Craig's definitely dead then. Craig's out of everyone. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. I'm made it right for her. Mike tries to reassure Chris. So Chris is like, Chris, I like Chris.
Starting point is 00:53:13 he's my guy like he's quite quick to go negative um he but and mike does a really good job of like keeping his spirits up wherever possible um so he tries to reassure him that help must be on the way because they heard the helicopter that's got to be a good sign there's got to be somebody coming they must have heard the radio call the sun however is beginning to set when the rescue workers appear at the rim of the crater oh yeah they shout down to chris and mike Chris can just about hear him and his spirits are instantly lifted that they're about to be rescued. Great.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Because rescue people appear. You're like, this is great. They're going to save me. It is a hallucination. It's not a hallucination. I'm confused by it. They couldn't come back to the next day. They couldn't come back to the next day. But then they just appear at the rim of the crater.
Starting point is 00:54:06 So what happens is Chris yells up to them to throw a rope down but they respond with some bad news. They forgot the rope. No, I'm joking. The conditions are too bad above the crater to continue with the rescue today.
Starting point is 00:54:24 So there's no, because there's no solid ground for them to attempt the rescue and the weather is getting worse and they can't see them. Like, it's everything. They'll have to wait until tomorrow. The rescuers try to rescue Chris,
Starting point is 00:54:36 sorry, the rescuers try to reassure Chris by telling him they're camping near the crater and they'll come over and check them about every hour by whistling down and they should whistle back to let them know that they're okay and Chris is like, that's great but what are you going to do if I stop whistling? Yeah. And they're like, well, okay, bye.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Like nothing. But also like, so where is he? Who? Is he just hanging off a wall? Yeah. You can't hold yourself that long. He's on a little, he's found a little ledge. He's like perched.
Starting point is 00:55:07 He's found some, some stones that are strong. enough to support his weight but he is essentially on the wall clinging on okay and can breathe and can just about well yeah I mean their throats are still burning and like I don't understand how they're going to survive till morning well let me tell you Mike said at night it was like a light show the lava sounded like surf pounding against the shore and rock slides were happening all the time so they'd hear the rock slides and you would just hope that it doesn't happen near you because if it happens near you you're done you're especially chris who's like so so high up like the rocks a razor sharp the minute you fall and land on those rocks you're dead so they've got that to keep them
Starting point is 00:56:00 awake um yeah yeah keeps your brain busy it's also raining and the temperatures dropped so then now wet and freezing. No, that's the worst. Neither of them have any water since the morning. Mike remembers he had a light reader in his pocket so he breaks off the cup shaped bit of the light reader.
Starting point is 00:56:24 It's like when you're taking pictures like proper photographers take pictures, they like read the light for something. It has a purpose, I don't know what. I'm sure it does. Yeah. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:56:35 What did he use it for? So he broke off a, there's a dome shape bit of it which he broke off and turned upside down to collect rainwater. Nice. They could drink it. Cup. A little cup. So much better than pants. So much better. Yeah. But if Ricky McGee had had a light reader, I'm sure he would have done the same. However, I think it's still used to spend it. Yeah, maybe. When he goes to drink the water, it tastes like sulphur and is completely undrinkable. Yeah, that would do it. Yeah. Chris is in a bad headspace. Um, as I think. think we all would be yeah yeah he can't see a way of surviving the night he goes through
Starting point is 00:57:14 everyone he loves in his head and says goodbye to them oh my god but they're not going to hear you in your head oh god yeah write it down they make it through the night hooray neither have slept but they're still alive and the rescuers have whistled throughout the night which has helped them sort of you know keep some sense of hope um the sun comes up and they're convinced the rescue must be getting underway chris the chris out of the blue sees a rope fall like in his in his peripheral vision okay um he calls down to mike who sees it too but it's too far neither of them can grab it um he'll be like is a snake it's a snake it's a bear at the top of the rope
Starting point is 00:58:08 so neither of them can reach it they shout up to the rescue team instructing them how far and in which direction they need to move it they pull up the rope and they do it again but it's still too far but Chris decides he's going to jump for it
Starting point is 00:58:22 but just as Chris is about to jump for the rope it's pulled back oh my God did you turn that down that was it That was gutter off. That was like my dad watching any sport. So it just took the, the spirit of my father just...
Starting point is 00:58:48 Wow, overtook it, yeah. So, are you recovered? I'm fine. Okay. Chris is really pissed off now. So he does, like, he's going, he's going... Oh my God, no. It's pulled up and he's like, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:59:01 I was going to jump up. Yeah, he's pissed off. But if they think, okay, they're going to reposition it, it'll come back down. it doesn't come back down several hours pass what the fuck and chris is getting very restless the light is beginning to dim and he can't stand the prospect of another night in the crater the weather clears for a moment and he can suddenly see he looks up and he can suddenly see a more climbable route I think you're going to be like he can suddenly see they're all on a tea break they're all just having a biscuit for several hours
Starting point is 00:59:38 We just watched Terminator too. So he looks up and he's like, oh, okay, actually maybe climbing up isn't impossible. I'll, I'll give it a go. Okay. So he calls down to Mike and tells him he's going to try again to climb out. And again, Mike is like, just hold out for the rescuers. Like, we know that they're here. They're the professional.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Why take unnecessary risk? Exactly. He ignores Mike and starts to climb. Oh, Chris. He's now in a race against the set. the sun setting to climb his way out. Because obviously the moment it gets dark, you're done. He manages to get about six feet from the top.
Starting point is 01:00:18 So he's nearly there. Oh my God. He's a person away from the top. That's so close. Yeah, so close. But the rocks, the bigger rocks have now disappeared and it's more like gravel. So there's literally nothing to get you there. Nothing to grab onto.
Starting point is 01:00:36 He's stuck again. Okay. At least he's stuck closer to the top. Right. And he has a stroke of genius. Ooh. Because, and actually what he does is incredible. So there's nothing he can grab on to, but he thinks if I had a pole, I could like push it into the rock, into like the gravel to get some leverage and then swing up and over.
Starting point is 01:01:02 But he obviously doesn't have a pole. So he's like, oh, maybe if I, maybe if I, maybe if I. Sorry, what? so because you can't you obviously can't grab on to anything but if he goes into the gravel and he can push down swinging up situation
Starting point is 01:01:16 you're suddenly doing pole vault yeah if he had a pole but he doesn't have a pole so even if I had a pole I couldn't do a pole vault I think yeah maybe if you were I don't think the pole is the issue with me right now not being able to do a pole vault
Starting point is 01:01:30 well thank God you're not in this position because what he does He's really back in his spontaneous gymnastic ability. But what else do you do? Like there's literally nothing. It's stay there. But he also doesn't have a ball. So what he does, because he doesn't have a pole,
Starting point is 01:01:47 what he does is he digs both of his arms in to the crater, which is also like pushing your hands through broken glass. Yeah, but worse. So painful. And then he, like, now he can like push his body up and he ends up like flipping over and getting over the rim of the crater, and he escapes.
Starting point is 01:02:16 So he's out. He's elated. He calls down to Mike. I'm out. I've done it. I'm out. But he shouts down, but his voice just travels upwards. There's no getting sound down into the crater. So he's like, okay I'm just going to try and now save Mike so he looks around there's a rope he sees the rope so he's like great I'm going to where's the rescue team they've left I'll get to that so he finds the rope and he's like this is great I'm going to save Mike I know where he is I'm going to throw the rope down to Mike and pull him up and then he's like
Starting point is 01:02:52 oh I haven't eaten for two days I don't have the strength to pull a man up there's no way I can and probably what will happen is he will pull me in and then we're both back at square one so what he does is he lays the rope down sort of pointing in Mike's direction so that the rescue crew if they come back know where to go and then he and the rescue crew have left fluorescent cones in a in a trail back to their base camp where they were staying overnight so he runs he follows the cones and finds their
Starting point is 01:03:25 base camp everybody's gone there's no one there they've left like bottles of water there's an oxygen tank so he grabs a bottle of water and he takes a big guy but his throat is so swollen he can't swallow anything so he immediately spits the water out that's still hydrating though yeah getting it in your mouth is good isn't it and then and then he but he's like oh there's an oxygen tank here so he grabs the oxygen oxygen tank puts it on takes a big deep breath which obviously helps his throat and then he he sets off running again with no food there was no there's nothing that yeah no no pringles no no no No, he's not, he's not popping any Pringles whilst he's up there.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Where the fuck is the rescue team? Right. Okay, you are going to tell me. I am, well, I'm actually not. I don't know where the rescue team are. What? I just know that they're not there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:17 And we never found out. Nope. What? I know. I imagine, like, the weather was getting really bad. I imagine it got too bad for them to be able to stay. Well, we'll come back tomorrow. We'll leave them to die.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Yeah. But like, maybe it got so bad that they then couldn't stay at the base. I don't know. Actually no it couldn't because he's running and a helicopter sees him and he stops and like waves his arms and the helicopter lands and picks him up and it's a park ranger like helicopter. They're obviously looking around to see if they can find anybody. And he said as soon as the park ranger put his hand on his shoulder his whole body just went limp. Which is also what happened to Ricky McGee if you remember as soon as he saw those guys. And Jennifer Mori. There must be like a you collapsed. Your body is just. just running on adrenaline. Yeah, 100%. And you're like, and now I'm safe. Yeah. He tells the park rangers they have to go back for Mike,
Starting point is 01:05:12 but they tell him the conditions are too bad and they will come back tomorrow. No, stop it. He's got the rope ready and everything. Mike is left in the crater for a second night. Fucking hell. Yeah, he, at this point, he's like, and he's obviously still calling out to Chris,
Starting point is 01:05:28 hasn't heard anything. And so he's like, oh, I guess Chris is dead then. So then, so he's like, I'm definitely going to die here. He carves into a rock. I love you, Stephanie, who's his wife. That's how you do it. There you go.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Better than in your head. Oh, I love that. Suddenly, what appears to be a body comes crashing past him in the mist. Oh, he's going to think that's... Mike's heart absolutely sinks. It was actually a survival package tossed down by rescue workers
Starting point is 01:06:01 in a long shot chance that it would find him. Yeah. And he said, I thought Chris had just bought the farm, which is a really fun way. Apparently, it means you've died. What, like when you send a dog to the farm? Yeah, I guess so. You just bought the farm. I'm going to start saying that when I've had a bad gig now.
Starting point is 01:06:19 And no one will know what you mean. Yeah. I really bought the farm in Bridge End. Everyone would be like, do you just come into some money? Yeah. So, Mike tries to keep his mind off what's happening. He does the alphabet backwards. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:37 But at one point, he's gazing into the lava pond and he is convinced that he can see Madame Pelle. He calls out... I was about to say, you probably really wish he'd say him throwing the chin away right now. Exactly. He calls out to her,
Starting point is 01:06:51 no, you can't have me, and then she disappears. That's very respectful of her. Boundaries. Isn't it? See, women respect boundaries. Yeah. I don't.
Starting point is 01:07:03 totally don't but this really like excuse the pun lights a fire underneath him and keeps him going to source I've got the power she listened exactly he's like I'm going to get out of here despite Madame Pelle because women are great business
Starting point is 01:07:21 Chris gets back to base camp where he has met I've gone on a journey today Chris gets back to base camp where he is met by news crews and the production team but he is delighted when he sees Craig yeah and then suddenly like what the helmet yeah yeah yeah where did you go no no obviously he's just like thrilled that he got out um he's desperate to go back and get Mike but Craig tells him that
Starting point is 01:07:51 he would fly it he'd get in a helicopter himself and go but they they just can't because of the conditions he thinks that Mike's gonna die so first thing the next morning a helicopter with a big basket like a cross between a football net so is he meant to get in the basket he's meant to get in the basket but what happens is the basket crashes into the wall of the crater and collects a couple of very heavy rocks which go into the basket no no no no no they think oh there's a body in the basket let's go home and they don't check they go home well they go they fly out obviously really Realized and then they come back from him. They don't go home before they realize.
Starting point is 01:08:36 You told us to go and bring something back. We brought something back. I guess someone's been bad for Christmas this year. Sent up what you call. So they come back and they don't really know where he is. Like they know they've got the indication of the rope but really it's just a guessing game and they lower the rope down, the basket down and it's in front of him.
Starting point is 01:09:02 But obviously, it's not next to him. So he's like, I'm going to have to jump. He's going to have to jump. And they could just lift it at any time as well. Yeah, exactly. He takes a deep breath and makes a jump for it. And he hits the back of the net. Nice.
Starting point is 01:09:17 He's saved. Woo! And as he's flying over the crater, he shouts out, you didn't get me, Madame Pelle. That sounds like a student. He's only pissed off with their English teacher. Yeah. Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Thank you, bitch. A level's aroma. I'm going to burn my notebook. So Chris, Mike and... I don't have to listen to you anymore. Chris, Mike and Craig managed to survive their ordeal pretty much unscathed. They each spent a few days in the hospital. Yeah. But with no long-lasting problems, really.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Although Chris did say that every time he coughed, he could taste sulfur for months afterwards. which is like rotting eggs. Ooh. Yeah. The doctors wanted them to stay at the hospital to be studied since there's been no record
Starting point is 01:10:09 of anyone breathing in that much volcanic gas for that long in recorded history. But they were like, nah. We got a movie to make. The real kick in the dick. A really good movie that's going to win a lot of awards. The footage was never recovered. I was going to ask that.
Starting point is 01:10:27 The scene was cobbled together with stock footage. that was an option that was an option but that ending of the two characters flying into the volcano tested so badly with audiences
Starting point is 01:10:39 that they ended up cutting it and completely changing the ending of the film to the point where the murderer was a different person so why were they driving into a volcano
Starting point is 01:10:52 in the original film I think the murderer confesses to the other person and the other person is like don't worry, I've kept the evidence safe and then they fly into the volcano so you don't know whether they survive or not
Starting point is 01:11:09 you don't know whether they fly off into the sunset together and survive or whether they both die and audiences hated it so much that they cut it, changed it, changed the identity of the killer. Wow. I didn't even know that was an option. Right. So that's the story of Chris Duddy, Craig Hosking and Mike Benson. Wow, that was amazing.
Starting point is 01:11:30 That was really good. The twist and turn. I felt I was like watching a movie. I'd see a film of that. I want to see a film of that. Swiveble toolkit, what goes in the survival toolkit, I actually think
Starting point is 01:11:44 the battery. Yes, I was actually going to suggest the pliers. Also good. But yeah, the batch... I think in a fix you could do without pliers. Teeth.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Yeah, like in a real... Whereas you need the wires. or you need something to power whatever you have. Yeah, absolutely. I'm with you, the battery, big time. Do we know what kind of battery it was? Just a camera battery.
Starting point is 01:12:08 A camera battery. Yeah. I think a camera battery. It was the same voltage as the radio. That's the crucial difference. Yeah, I mean, we can't guarantee that. No. But like I think a battery,
Starting point is 01:12:20 anyway, if you're good at, I feel like if you can make a potato o'clock, you can make a battery. a battery for anything I'm talking out my ass but I just feel like a battery I think a battery is a good
Starting point is 01:12:36 I feel like if you've got the brains of Craig yes you've got the brains and the hair of Craig you can make a battery work I can't believe the conditions he did that under as well insane mad absolutely mad
Starting point is 01:12:50 but yes I think a battery would go nicely with the rest of our items for our toolkit could probably good choice charge the 90s mobile phone as well there you go but actually crucially it won't need charge because
Starting point is 01:13:04 90's phone doesn't ever run out battery no but it's big enough for a camera battery ours doesn't because it's inflatable Listener stories yes Time for list of stories That was like I'm petting a dog noise wasn't it? Yeah. I was also betting a dog. If you survived the worst case scenario,
Starting point is 01:13:34 please send us your stories to help at wcspod.com. You can find the address in the show notes. Are we saying show notes? What am I doing wrong? Episode notes. Oh. Oh. You're looking at me like I'm doing it wrong. Oh, okay. It's just my face. Oh. Maybe let's fix. then. Tell me a listener story. Okay. I have two short, one long. Great.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Okay, first one. This is from Grace. One time, I was home alone. It was 11.30pm, and I was in bed with the windows open. First mistake. Yeah. I never opened my windows. Ever?
Starting point is 01:14:18 Ever. Ever. What if it's hot? It's hot. And smelly. I heard a noise outside my window. and thought, that doesn't sound right. So I got out of bed,
Starting point is 01:14:31 opened the cairns, and there was a guy literally with one foot through my window. What? I freaked out and slammed the window closed, and he ran away. And that's the end of that story. Oh my God. But how mental is that?
Starting point is 01:14:47 That's terrifying. That's your worst nightmare. That's the worst case scenario. He had a foot inside. One foot through the window. oh my god have you seen that video of the girl who's like doing a dance or something and then a I was going to say a breaker in a what are they called burglar um or an attacker I don't know like comes in through her door and she's like and it's filming her and she's like what are you doing
Starting point is 01:15:15 and then he like goes for her and she she like fights him off fuck off no I'll find it so it's wild and she she's like get out of my house get out of my house and I was thinking like I don't know what I would do in that situation. I actually kind of know what I'd do. What would you do? I think I'd run away. I need to remember exactly what I said. Is it legally binding?
Starting point is 01:15:40 I said, no, no, no. So basically, when I live with my parents, I was in my bedroom, I was asleep, like middle of the night. Basically, in my old bedroom, the window quite often leaked, is a very old house. So if it's raining, it would,
Starting point is 01:15:57 would leak so you need to know but anyway I was asleep middle of the night and a man comes into my room and I sit up through the window no no just like it's just like well I'm like asleep yeah right and an adult man is walking into my room and that doesn't usually happen I sit up and I said got the fuck out my room like that who was my dad and he was just he'd come in in the middle of the night just, like, really stressed that the window was leaking. Oh. But, like, but was creeping. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:34 And, like, in the pitch black, he's just, like, quite a big man. Yeah. Not large. He cycles a lot. You've, you've kept in shape, Dad. But, um, yeah, he basically just shouted a lot of F words. I was like, what the fuck you do? Get the fuck out of my room.
Starting point is 01:16:48 What the fuck you do in my room? And he was like, it's me. It's okay. Oh. So I get quite aggressive. Yeah. That's good to know, isn't it? I go, like, big against.
Starting point is 01:16:57 to bear kind of vibe you're a fight not a flight or freeze yeah I didn't freeze and I I just like got aggressive verbally I'm quite impressed yeah I know so I'm surprised are you though I mean actually yeah I am quite quite gobby when you need to be like in the yeah I do I do get involved yeah I'm not very good at like sitting back and not saying anything yes um next one next one next one Okay. This is another short one. Okay. From Jody.
Starting point is 01:17:31 I survived a 130 miles per hour combined impact, head-on car crash, all because I didn't see the guy overtaking and coming at me, so I didn't tense up. Apparently, being floppy on impact is underrated. Not ideal in all situations. I haven't found that myself. But car crashes, specifically. Apparently, I heard that with car, the difference between men and women in car crashes
Starting point is 01:18:06 is that women will take their hands off the wheel to protect themselves, whereas men will hold onto the wheel and then break their arms. No way. Yeah, because it's like a control thing, I think. Like, they think that I'm going to till the bitter end, I'm going to try and control it,
Starting point is 01:18:22 where women are more like, I'm going to protect myself. Yeah, I'd immediately let go. Oh, me too. There was a wasp in my car once and I just let go of everything and jumped out my car. God, you ever dress? I was moving, but the car stalled because I took my feet off the all pedals,
Starting point is 01:18:38 just let go of everything, opened the door and jumped out. Oh my God. I'm really scared of wasps. Where was this? On the motorway? No, it's in Bristol City Centre. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Next one, let's see if I have an anecdote for this. Yeah, let's go. Okay, this is our longer one. Hi there. Hmm. Nice. Cash. Very cash.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Okay. I'm just going to get straight into it. Please. All business. If there was ever a story about the power of saying no, this is it. Hmm. I used to live in Earlsfield, a very leafy family friendly suburb of southwest London. And one sunny evening, I was heading towards the bus stop as I was meeting a friend at the cinema.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Side note, we went to see Batman. There's three. hours of my life I'll never get back and honestly it was a worse experience than what I'm about to share wow a real slamming of Batman real harsh but then she does say context this was May 22 and that was the Robert Patterson Batman and I do believe that probably was quite bad okay but I haven't seen it myself and I can't judge and I do love Robert Patterson okay Pattinson really need to work that out Pattinson I've been doing a bit in my stand-up about yeah I was gonna say four years and I still don't have to say a surname
Starting point is 01:19:56 So yeah, context, this was May 2022. So things like masks and social distancing, et cetera, were all the rage. Hi, listeners, if you're not aware, around that time, we went through a pandemic. You might miss it. You might miss it. But we all wore face masks and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:20:16 And that's why when a couple of teenagers crossed the street towards me wearing hoods and face masks, I didn't really pay much attention. Teenagers wear hoods. And even though we were outside, Perhaps these ones were vulnerable, or just particularly conscientious when it came to COVID. Anyway, I was walking along with my headphones on, when one of them approached me and started speaking to me. I couldn't hear what he was saying due to the aforementioned headphones.
Starting point is 01:20:42 She's really challenging me here with some long words. So I lifted up one ear and asked him to repeat himself. He was only up to my shoulder in height and looked no more than 12 or 13. so I thought maybe he was lost or needed some kind of help boy was I wrong turns out what he had been saying to me was a simple demand money here was his second mistake the first being speaking to someone wearing headphones because who has cash after COVID I looked at him he looked at me and I just said no did you then I wish I had this compliment evidence around teenagers.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Did she put her palm on his forehead and just held it out. He's like, come on. He then lifted up the flap of his bag and proceeded to pull out a gun. In London. Where's this 12-year-old got a gun from? Right. At which point, I think I gave him a rather bemused look and just walked past him. Bullsey.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Right? Carrying on my walk to the bus stop and not looking back. thankfully it was 6pm on a weekday evening and so the road I immediately turned on to was full of commuters I continued walking and didn't turn around until I reached the bus stop where I then went a bit bananas and just laughed to myself as the shock of what had just happened hit me apparently I had just refused to get mugged
Starting point is 01:22:13 I didn't know that was an option I didn't know that was a thing you could do apparently you can just say no not today I'm aware that this goes against all advice for women in these situations and so now I'm slightly concerned about my own survival instincts should another situation like this or worse arise. Anyway, maybe put a complete lack of self-preservation in the survival toolkit
Starting point is 01:22:40 or failing that if you must get mugged, at least try and get mugged by someone who is respectful of a woman's no. Karina. Wow. Isn't that such a good one? great brilliant thank you korena yeah oh my god um so yeah like we said if you if you have any stories about refusing a mugging um or any other worst case scenario please let us know um help at wcspod com yeah that's all for today what a day what an episode i've worn out i've been on a journey
Starting point is 01:23:14 and it's ended well thank you oh good and that was such a good story that was a great one to end on Thanks for listening, guys. Please come back. Yeah. Hope you survive another week. Bye. Tarrar. Cool.
Starting point is 01:23:30 I told you I'd been on a journey. Get attacked by an angry shark. Stuck up a mountain in the dark. Pushed off the top of a big landmark. Hit by lightning in your local park. Gord in the downpour about it rain. Struck by meteor or a train. A proton bee passing through your brain.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Attacked by that angry shark again. Hear how they. survive. Trappled by a herd of buffalo, chased with an axe by your new friend Joe, buried alive in a pile of snow, it's the worst case scenario.

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