WRFH/Radio Free Hillsdale 101.7 FM - Dale's Dates Ep. 2: They Were Blind, But You Don’t Have to Be, Pt. 2

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

Join Cupid and Psyche as they finish their discussion of Love is Blind season 1.

Welcome back to this week's episode of Dale's dates where Psyche and I are going to continue our discussion on love is blind. Mark Burnett and Jessica are in the middle of figuring out that they have no emotional intelligence. intelligence, and Psyche and I are having fun telling you guys how to not be them. So without further ado, let's get right back into it. Not to put Mark in a pedestal, though. Yeah. I have some criticism of my man Mark here, because you can hear the hesitation in her voice. Oh, yeah.

They've spent some time together. I mean, it is possible that he has looked over the fact that she might not be as eager in person as she was. in the booths you gotta have some self-respect man oh yeah no one on this show has any self-respect you you have to say like listen i don't want to be an object of her emotional satisfaction she seems to be using me a little bit here yeah what's this about but there was no conversation no how are we doing no to find the relationship it was much to be desired it was literally Jessica to Mark, I'm not interested. Then Barnett to Jessica. Well, I'm not interested in you.

And then Jessica to Mark, I'm so sorry I said I wasn't interested in you. Please come back. And then Mark, who says that he knows his self-worth, decided that he wanted to propose to Jessica. Is that self-worth? You know, this really makes me think we, in comparison, the Greek myth we're named after, really has a healthier relationship with these people. I mean, about it. Shocking but true. Keep it in Psyche. I mean,

they had a little bit of a lovis blind situation. Yeah. We'll keep it to that point. That's it. They had a bit of a love is blind situation, but, you know, at least he had the decency

of communicating boundaries. Exactly. Which no one here on this show seems to be able to do. That's right. Anyway, what do we have next? Next clip, this is our last clip. This is a crazy clip because

this is Jessica admitting that the person that she is still most attracted. So this is, they've been engaged for a few days now. They have been. A few days. Roll out the red carpet. They're in Mexico together. And Jessica, despite all of her alleged trying, cannot seem to be attracted to Mark.

How do you try to be attractive to someone? Like, I mean, you either are or you don't, I guess. Yes. I mean... I feel like that's something that... Okay, I don't want to be unfair. I think there are people that you could potentially be attracted to. Sure. Right?

Like, that grows with knowledge and time and hopefully words and language and that sort of thing. Yeah. But there are some people that you just know. Yeah. It's kind of a, you know, kind of not for me. Yeah. And... Like if you're an avid hiker or something, you don't want to marry.

someone that hates nature so you're like you know this person's kind of like not my type exactly you just don't get engaged to those people don't get engaged to those people don't lead them on by promising marriage oh yeah so here's here's our last clip listen and weep my natural instinct if it were pre pod jest would be to go to barnet the most attractive guy that I just normally gravitate to pass me some tissues I can't. I mean. What does that even mean?

Like, I love how she's making this distinction between pre-pod jets and current jets. Listen, her life has changed. There is an accidental change in her life. She got engaged. She got engaged to someone that she doesn't actually have any desire to marry. That's the thing. Has she changed in her mind? I'm skeptical that she thinks she's a different person.

I just think this is an excuse to say I'm superficial and I just like Barnett better than I like Mark Maybe I mean I tend to have a more charitable No one wants to admit they're superficial But we all kind of are a little bit superficial You have to be superficial to ascertaining

And that's not bad No Just when you kind of divorce the superficiality from Because superficial doesn't mean fake It's just the stuff that's on the top Yeah It's just the stuff that you like immediately see i mean to quote my favorite man other than jesus john paul the second he said i thought

you're going to say aristotle well aristotle is like my favorite favorite but catholic okay although i i do believe aristotle's in heaven please don't put them like i'm 100% sure of that saint aristotle i would name my kid aristotle yeah but anyway john paul the second says like maturity is when the top of you meets your bottom yeah and so like you should should be a little bit superficial. Yeah. But when you are, you're looking for the surface that meets the bottom. You're not looking for just the surface.

Mm-hmm. And Jessica here is going a little bit for just the surface and the eye candy. Yeah. I mean, I think they kind of all are. Well, you know. Some more than others. I feel like Jessica is probably more on the- Who's signing up for this show?

Like people that are saying, like, I want to find the love of my life in this show. The fact that Mark signed up, and he's like in his early 20s is kind of... That's really sad. Like, he's, like, two years older than I am. And I'm, like, what would have to happen? I'm 21. Okay. Like, what would have to happen in my life in the next two years for me to decide to, like, like, cancel.

How desperate are you? Cancel my life for a month to go on a dating show like this. I mean, I'm sure seminary is rough, but listen, like, will that drive you into love his mind? It better not. Anyone that wants to marry by the Anglican ride of 1642 ladies, Cupidus looking. to excuse me yeah so I mean just the the fact that Mark at this young age of I think he's like 24 he evidently feels like he doesn't have the opportunities in the rest of his life to go and like meet a real woman and it's a noble desire to want to get married absolutely we support these people

wanting to get married but that's a good thing they're approaching this as if it it is a game yes like if dating is like well it's a game and then when we get married the real stuff starts yeah where i'm with the opinion that it should be the other way around do the real stuff right now get that out of the way have fun later i mean i'm of the opinion that it's all work like it's all work and fun at the same time well yeah but you know you got to get some prelims out of the way do some heavy lifting. You got to do some heavy lifting. And like, listen, can you live with their little annoying habits that they have going on around you?

No. Do you agree on the big stuff? Dating is like sort of a practice for marriage. Like obviously there are things that are inappropriate. I got to say, every happy marriage couple, married couple I know hated dating. Oh, yeah. So. Is dating is where, I mean.

You got to do all the harsh stuff. You got to do all. Yeah. You've got to like figure out, okay, is this summer. someone that I can spend. And that means like, okay, what happens when they get angry? Like, will they lash out at me? Or, and if they do that, like, how, like, will they apologize? You want to know what I'm going to do to a guy one day that I'm dating? I'm booking a low-cost airline flight. You know, those airlines that are often delayed, they lose your bag. Maybe there's a fight

on the plane. Those are fun. Those are fun flights. But, you know, you really test people's characters in this i've been some yeah i've been in some trips before for work and stuff yeah that you're you're you really see who people are in this kind of scenario yeah i i was standing around for my bags for two and a half hours with a group of people and we had a clean division between the people there was the two and a half hours like hey we have nothing else to do let's have fun while we're here anyway and there was the other half mainly composed of young men sadly that's said, you guys can grab our bags for us. Let us go get a taxi and went to sleep at the hotel. So I don't know. It really shows the people's true colors. But going back to this,

Jessica, seeing no one's true colors. Yeah. She's, what is she seeing? She, I mean, there are other clips that I didn't pull from this, from this season of Jessica kind of commenting and talking about the fact that Mark is not. someone that she would typically be attracted to physically. She says that she likes bigger. Like Mark is kind of a short guy. He's like, you know, five, between five eight and five ten. Which is not that short. Which is not that short. That's like above the, I don't like what? Isn't the average American male like five eight? Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's true. Like the average American adult male is five eight. And the average American woman is five four. That's pretty short.

Yeah. So no complaining. It's still. four inches taller than you are exactly yeah I mean I think it's quite ridiculous to be 5-4 and say I one day below 6-4 I mean he needs to get you a stool to look into your eyes see what I found

there are a few individuals you go to the school who are very tall and sometimes it's fun to just go around and tell people like I've got a friend I live with a guy who's 6-5 and sometimes it's fun to just go around he is single yeah look at that episode one we're already setting up blind dates

no we're not sitting up blind dates we will not do that for you that is one thing that we will not we love our no no we will have a whole episode on how to ask people out yeah so that we don't have to do that for you exactly but it's it's kind of fun to just go around a lot of people in general don't like have no idea like what height sort of is yeah So, like, I go and tell people my six, five friend is six feet. They're like, oh, yeah, okay, okay. Yeah. And then you can tell all the guys get really scared because they're like, wait, if he's six, if he's six feet.

I'm three to. I'm like, exactly. Now, but I think it's unrealistic. Like, if you're five, too, like, he might have to lift you up to look into your eyes. If you're five, two, then find someone who's five three. Leave the taller guys for the taller women. I think that's fair. And I don't think it's unrealistic to like certain people better than others.

I think it's kind of unrealistic to have a type. I mean, I think that there are broad, broad categories, sure. Like, I understand a girl that's like 5'4 saying, like, listen, I kind of don't want to date a guy that's shorter than me. Of course. Fair, you know, and that can be part of your type. Yeah. But I think it's kind of strict, rigid sort of I will not date anyone who's not. It's kind of unfair to be like, I only day brunettes or something like that.

Or say like, hey, like, if I'm going to date a guy, he has to be 6'4 or blue eyes and play the guitar. Like, that might not happen. And if you have more stuff, like, I want them to get a Christian. I want them to believe in this thing. Like stuff that actually matters. Get married in the 1662 right or whatever. You really shouldn't be getting two pique about eye color particular inchage and heighten. whatever like so to bring this all back to jessica and how she just completely mismanaged this whole

thing if jessica and mark were in in the room right now with us what would you tell them jessica you need a period of time in which you are single so that you can figure out how to communicate with people how to be a good friend how to ask right questions and when you feel like you have good friends a social network that supports you, tells you like, hey, this is kind of a red flag. You think you've improved enough on yourself to say, like, hey, I'm pretty sure about who I am. Then go out and find a guy who is in the same position as you are

that you like enough to be truthful with him. That's my thought for Jessica. And then I would tell Mark to run away. I don't have kind words for Burnett. So what would you tell Mark and Barnett as our male? I would sort of tell. What should you say to men in this situation? If they're not sort of taking the responsibility of doing this,

then it's on you to sort of steer and sort of lead the relationship in this way. Be diligent in the first little bit that you're dating someone or getting to know someone. It's not like, don't just like go hang out for a couple hours. Like, oh, that was fun. and then just, like, go about your normal life and not give it any thought until the next time you see them. Wait, are you saying that men shouldn't ask women

to, quote, hang out, end quote? See, if you're, I think that has its place, I think that it should not at all be sort of the go-to. What is the place for the quote, hangout, end quote. I mean, if you've already figured stuff out, like going to hang out with someone is... That's a dating kind of question. Like if you're, if you're official.

Yes. Hey, you want to hang out? Yes. It's a fair question. Yeah. Like, do you have free time? Do you want to hang out for a little bit? Yeah.

That's where that belongs. You should be intentional with figuring out. If you're talking, do you want to hang out? That's a no-go for me. No, no. Yeah. Like, if you're in and you're both sort of aware of like, okay, like we've been talking to each other with this understanding of we're trying to get to know each other to see if we want to start going out.

The time that you spend with each other, should be incredibly deliberate because men should have questions men should have questions women should have questions what both people should have questions for each other and like they don't all have to be like how many kids do you want no don't ask that please don't ask that i was at a class that was all female except for one of the students and we were asked what are some of the uncomfortable questions that you've gotten asked in the first aid 60% of the class had been asked How many kids do you want on in a first date? That's not something you ask in a first date?

First aid questions can be like, tell me about your family. Yeah. Hey, why are you studying what you're studying? What do you do for work? Why do you love that? Do you love that? What do you like, maybe something like,

what are you planning on? Like, where do you see yourself in five years? Do you have hobbies? Yeah. So like, they don't have to be super deep. They don't have to be super, super deep. Have you read anything interesting? that in the past 10 years.

I mean, yeah, like, just stuff to genuinely get to know them. You don't have to figure out if you're going to get married on the first date. So those questions can, I think, can kind of be sort of spread out. As long as you make sure you get to them before you start dating and figure all the stuff out, they can kind of be spread out in the first few dates. Like, you don't have to, you know. And you don't need to get engaged after four days. You don't even have to get engaged after like.

In fact, all that matters on the first date is, do you like them? Do you have chemistry? Enough to go on a second date. That should be like, period. There are a couple things that you should completely figure out by the first date. Like, is there enough chemistry here to, like, have a relationship potentially? Like, that's something that. I think my philosophy with this kind of thing is you date people till you hate them.

You go on a first date, do you like them enough to go on a second date? It doesn't matter whether they like you back. Sure. Whatever. You like them enough for a second date? Like, can you stand the sound of their voice for another hour and a half over coffee? Yeah. Go on a second date.

Sure. You go on the second date? You want to gout your eyes out after their second sentence? I'm sorry. Don't go on a third. Yeah. How hard is this? Yeah.

What? Yeah. So make sure that you spend your time deliberately. There are some things that you should figure out pretty quickly. Like, again. Chemistry? Chemistry should be, like, obviously, you hopefully will be building. chemistry as you get to know them.

One of the things I think you should figure out on the first date is the way like talking to them. And that's something that you could figure out pretty easily. Because chemistry is one thing. Like chemistry is like this, you know, thing in the air. I just like, I don't really like that word a whole lot. The spark, whatever that is. Like sprinkles in the air, something's going on.

Yes. Time flies by. I use those terms because it sort of gets at the, like, close to the idea of what I'm trying to get. You need to come up with their own vocabulary. I kind of don't like the chemistry thing either. No, yeah. Chemistry's kind of stupid. But anyway, you get enough of that, whatever that is, the spark.

Do I like talking to them? I think it's a pretty big deal. Can I talk with them? Do they act, like, do they act well around my friends? Do my friends like them? Well, that's not a first date kind of thing. Sure. Not on the first day. But in like the first, you know, few dates as you're getting to know them to figure out

if you want to, yeah, there's a bunch of things. thing is like vital for both men and women like going to first couple dates can you do things together and can you talk to each other yeah like a lot of guys I think like bond better over activities oh 100% and like having someone that you can do stuff with like the rest of your life is doing a bunch of stuff go so go mini golfing go play pickleball tell her to teach you how to crochet I mean bake cookies together I don't know like do whatever but like can you do stuff with them and then can you talk about it? Because I think that the common thread on this episode has been that they cannot talk about this stuff.

Yes. Like it's all to the producer, all to themselves, their little monologue. But then when it comes to talking to each other, like, what kind of answer is I don't know? Yeah. Like what kind of question is like, well, are you sure that you want to be with me because I'm older? This conversations could have gone much more direct. and less stressful for all of the participants. Yeah, and that's kind of going to the second thing that I was going to say is be, like, you have to be honest.

Yeah. There can't be anything that, like, you're secretly, like, sort of nursing, like, oh, this, I don't know about this one. Then talk with them about it. Well, how honest are we going to, like, on a first date? On a first, like, be honest, but don't be, like, super crying. You know what I say it's some guy, like, I'm so sorry, like, talking to you. you is like watching paint ride like it's you can't you can't say that to people yes there's a there and as the guy you can't say like listen the sound of your voice drives me insane like you can't

yeah no but at some point like you've gotten in a couple dates you can't just say like god told me i shouldn't keep going on dates with you real stuff that's that's one of my my biggest pet peeves is the j i don't feel peace about this relationship and like that's not to say that there isn't a genuine in place for like, you know, praying and like doing what you think. Blaming it on the Lord, though. But yeah, but at a certain point, you have to take responsibility for the actions that you are doing. And you have to be honest enough, but never harsh.

Yes. I don't think you should be harsh to anyone that you're stopped dating. Yeah. So I know some people that have had the whole like, well, I just don't want to keep going out with you. End of sentence. Yeah. And I think that just throws people off, male and female.

Like, whoever you tell that to, it's like, they're going to go home wondering, like, oh, my gosh, what's wrong with me? Like, especially if it's out of the blue. Yeah. Because, like, if you don't have, like, if you have this, this feeling, this intimation that, you know, it's not working out, maybe that you didn't do your due diligence. You need an explanation. Yeah. Yeah. It can't just be, I'm not feeling it.

It can't be. I don't feel the chemistry. There aren't any sparks. Like, sorry. It's been six dates. It's no fun anymore. Like that's, that's, that's fine. Just be, with those kind of things, you just.

have to be honest. All right. Cupid. Show us how to reject people. How to reject people? Tell Jessica. How should she reject Mark? How should Jessica reject Mark?

I mean, be honest. Say, hey, I made a mistake. I went into this really wanting to find a husband. And you were the first person who showed it. He interested me. And so I was kind of taken by that. But then I realized that I wasn't actually interested in you. And so I apologize for that.

But I can't continue this relationship. And that will conclude our series on Love is Blind. We hope you guys enjoyed it, and we hope that you guys will tune back in next week on Dale's dates.