WRFH/Radio Free Hillsdale 101.7 FM - See Ya Sometime Sweet Prince | Boys Only #37

Episode Date: May 2, 2026

Nate and Storm chat with Bobby Lindau about lessons of leadership, the philosophy of humility, and the femur breaker.

Big Nate. Welcome back to Bubavut. No, we will, we'll, we'll regular intro. You're so high up in your chair right now. I'm so high above you, like Joan of Arc. I'm looking up at you like Willem DeFoe in that one meme. You've been taking higher. Can you take me higher?

You're lifted up. Wait, what are you doing right now? You're in like a high chair basically. Yeah, my chair's really, really, really high right now, guys, because I don't know how to fix it. Welcome back everyone to Bub, bu, boys. Only. Thanks for your listening.

That actually wasn't the intro. But this is, it's boys only. Really weird pump fake intro this week. We pump big like three times on the intro there. You've got to bite. I know. I'm trying to get the guest to bite. I jumped.

I will say, I jumped. Yeah, yeah, thank you. This week on the show, guys, listen, we're drawing to the very end of a time here at the radio station. We're not done with the radio station just yet. but in tradition we have a send-off episode at the end of every semester and the very unfortunate truth this time is that we're sending off one of our very dear friends bobby lindow how's it going man it's going absolutely wonderful today i'm so glad to hear that welcome to the show thanks for coming on i appreciate it for having me for the uninitiated of which there are fewer and

who are you where my people know you on hillsdale college campus are you the way that you are why are you the way that you are why are you the way that you are I'm Bobby Lindo I'm a senior I live in Simpson Dorm four year Simpson guy That's probably my My main thing that people would know me from

I'm in the orchestra So that's a lot of fun What do you play? I play violin Oh yeah Four year four year second violinist baby Glorious What happens when you don't practice

You should have practiced A little bit And then you would have been the first violinist Ever. Of all time. You were the second violinist ever. Hey, the second violins are pretty great.

We're all laid back, just kind of chill. Is that, is that like the distinction is like these guys practice? Pretty much. Yeah, pretty much. Like the first, like,

two or three stands and the second violins are like pretty, like, dedicated, but like, the last three stands are pretty chill. Dude,

I'd be so pressed if I was like a senior and I was just trying to be getting to, like, crack into the first row, violinists. Crack into the first, some freshmen just like took my spot, dude.

Like I'm old like dirt, bro. Like, get out. Get out. Get out. Get the bricks. Yeah, I get to be stand partners with Oscar Wilson. Oh, that is fantastic. That's eclectic. He and I are pretty happy about that.

Potential guest at some point, maybe someday. We have a lot of juniors to work through that. He and I got like so excited when, when Holman was like, yeah, you know, we got Robert and Oscar and he and I just looked at each of like, I can see the way Oscar. Yes, yes. We're all making a very specific face right now. If you've seen Oscar Wilson, you know the face.

He's making a face. You can see Oscar Wilson stare. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's good to having the show. Before we kind of jump into questions and segments and all the things we do, definitely the things that we have... The many questions that we have. Many segments.

Many such cases. And the many segments we do. What's the name of this segment? Talk before the talking. So this is going to be a lot of talking in this section. The next section. Oh, you're not even ready. We're going to talk.

What? Section after that, you're, just hold on to your horses. Do you have like a... Some chatting is going to be done over there. I think you need to have like a song for talk before the talking. Uh,

no. Like this is the song. This is the talking song. Yeah, yeah. Nate, you go for it. He's,

pretend he's playing violin in the background. I'm giving you a beat. That's not a violin. No, he's playing violin. You're going to, I love talking. This is the talking song.

Let's talk to my friends about speaking to people. What's the difference through a podcast and a talk show? Where you listen to it. I think it's a platform. Yeah, talk shows are TV and radio.

Like, Hennedy. Well, I guess he's not on there anymore. Podcasts are pre-recorded media. Talk shows are not always live though. Some talk shows are pre-recorded.

They're also like a podcast too, though. There's a live podcast too, though. You're telling me it isn't 11 a.m. on a Saturday right now. I mean, it's not. It's not. It's not. Dude, you saw the Instagram viasco this week.

He had some guest mix-ups slightly. We didn't know who was quite going to be on. As far as I'm like I'm certain, it's 11 a.m. May 2nd right now. Right now. And then tomorrow it will be 11 a.m. May 8. 11 a.m. 8.

There are seven days in a week. I'm hitting the stupid face. You know what face I'm doing right now. In all transparency listeners, it is the last week last week and a half really here at Hillsville College the 26 spring semester. So as busy as you think you we're busier

We're not busy We're not busy We're significant Hell week is over Kiss the grass Kiss a woman Kiss a dude If you want if you're a girl

But like Only if you're a woman But our listeners Are only men Kiss a dude I guess I'm giving Nate some serious eyes Right now

Please don't That's the kind of stuff We're doing The girl part Not the not the dude Yeah who's we We as we are We as we are

You are You are at boys podcast incorporated. We as we. The insane possible. But, you know, it's celebrate, you know, pop the bottles. It's Hell Week over, man. And naturally, like you and I were talking, since Hell Week is over and everyone has their major

work done, the weather just immediately goes down the toilet. The weather is now terrible. You know, I liked it today. Today was a solid day. Nate and I went out to the lake with some friends today and hung out, and I was like, for like an hour. It was glorious. But like, this wasn't beach volleyball weather.

Like, that's my thing. Like, nice weather for me is beach volleyball weather. Yeah, for you freshmen who have not seen a spring semester, this is your first time seeing the end of the year. First of all, make every effort, I mean, it's probably already too late, but make every effort to stay as long as you can. Trust me, it's so worth it to see graduation, to see the end time. Also, just when you're at college, but college isn't happening.

That's the best part of college. That's the best part. That's the newman talking about only friendship. Yes. Between class, that's a whole other thing. I'm sure we're going to talk about that. Like, what do you, what do you think about those endings of semesters? I mean, it's simultaneously, like, one of the most joyful and one of the, like, saddest times of the year.

Because, like, it's the time of year that you get to really just, like, get together, spend time with friends, and you're doing nothing but that. But at the same time, you're, like, you're saying goodbye to these people. You know, I've, I've gone through now three classes of people that I've had to say goodbye to. And it's, it's tough. It's really tough, you know? You spend a lot, I mean, hundreds and hundreds of hours with these guys. And after three years, you just have to say, well, I'll see you when I see you. Catch you on the flip side.

Yeah. See you in hell. Let's see you when I maybe come back for something or other in the next couple years. But yeah, I mean, it's tough, but it's a good time. It's a lot of fun. I like the ending as of the year a lot. It helps you build a lot of good memories with those people. like, yeah.

El Cerritos. El Cerritos is a frequent. Known locations. Named. Handmade. Known place. These are all places.

I will be visiting El Cerritos sometime on the next week. We'll be doing this. It's the thing that will be happening. We're going to do these. No, we don't have to do that now. We're not going to do that. We're not going to order the country ham.

We're not ordering the country ham. This is a funny enough story. I want to tell this. Country. Yeah, sure. It's because it's not disparaging. For those listeners who I don't have a waffle house near you, I grew up with waffle houses on every corner.

I did not. You're from the north of you don't. Bobby, are there waffle houses in Nebraska? Not really. So it's kind of a southern thing, but it's spreading across the country. There's just dozens and dozens of waffles. On that note,

Nebraska is like the perfect middle of everything to have nothing. Oh, because like all the western chains stop. None of the eastern chains stop. None of the southern chains get there. Just nothing. We have our only, the only thing that Nebraska has that's unique to it, like food-wise, is a place called RUNSA.

I've heard of this. I've heard of this place. It's actually, it's really good, but everyone just laughs when they hear about it because they're like, bro, why you got to name? That is a pretty unfortunate name. Like, everyone just thinks about it. Isn't there, like, sandwich super weird?

Yeah, it's called a RUNza sandwich. It's like, imagine, like, a hollowed out piece of bread. like a small loaf of bread. Like a baguette. And on the inside, it's beef, onions, and cabbage. See, can you lose me at the cabbage, man? Yeah, I'm gonna say. Sometimes, sometimes they toss some cheese on there.

You're so close to just a Philly cheese steak. I mean, it's really good. Just throw a... See, no, what I do, this is what you gotta do. You gotta get the runs out, you take a bite off the top, and then you stuff some chicken fingers in there. That's just big back. That does sound good action.

That doesn't make it sound more appetizing for me. That's so much back already. I'm 150 pounds. That is so much five foot 10 so Yeah Just

Shander Don't do not tell me bro I'm trying to cut Do not talk Don't get those chicken fingers In the runs of Sam Big bag But there's a lot of people

Like who have only been to Runza Or wherever the heck you have Or culvers And not Waffle House right So we get a Waffle House And we take Like we do like big Waffle House trips It's like an hour

And 20 minutes from Oh man You can get there in CRIMS like me You can get there in 50 For you and Unless you're boring it You don't get there in 20

five and um and we get there and like a lot of these freshmen were taking there for like the first time have never been and there's one guy Andre who's like who's from rural Idaho from rural Idaho he's ever seen food or people before his life and he gets in there and like for those who don't know waffle house has like eggs and hash browns and like it's breakfast it's breakfast it's breakfast food but like very very like limited a number of items on the menu and it's like you pretty much get a combination of bacon eggs ash browns grits whatever like that stuff. Waffle.

And it said, yeah, and Waffle. Usually a waffle as well. Chocolate chip waffle, whatever you want. And so this guy sits down and he looks up at the waiter

and he says, I'm not going to do the voice because I want it to be pure because the voice is a little bit. Okay. He says, hey, can I get country ham? Which is something,

none of us, and we've been to Waffle's a bunch. None of us have ever heard of this. We're like never been spoken. What is the country ham? It's a $2. Bobby. Bobby.

Bobby. It's a, killing all. We were crying, laughing about this for like 10 minutes. Bobby. Hold your paws. You're going to snicker into the mic for the entire story. So,

we, none of us have ever heard of this item. It's a $2.00 upgrade on the regular thing. I'm going to pull up the picture because it's going to make Nate laugh. Now he, none of us know what's about to come out on this plate. We're like, what is the country

ham? This plate. Even, I don't know what that is. I've been to Waffle House dozens of times. I'm going to describe it to you. I'm really good describing these. It is a no joke. Cave man cartoon. It's like a slab of meat. With a circular bone in it.

If you've seen Madagascar, it's when Alex the Lion eats. But it's like a millimeter thick. Yeah, Google cartoon meat. Like that is what is slopped onto the table. And he looks at it with just despair. What is this thing that I'm eating now? You order something no one's ever ordered before. And he has to like sit there and just kind of get through it with his fork and knife and this like depressed look on his face.

Because we're of course, now he's a friend and what you do with friends when they do something like this, you make fun of them. So we're sitting there 20 minutes relentlessly either eating our food or making one of him for getting a caveman slab of meat on his plate. I didn't even know existed. And the crazy thing, this is the craziest part. We went back and we tried to find it on the menu. We couldn't. It is on the menu. It does say on the menu.

It's not under the side. We found an item. We found an item called, that is called the country ham. We found one called the city ham. So we're so confused. Like, did he order it wrong? Did he like think, I don't want city ham? I want rural ham.

I want country ham. I want the rural ham. And it's just, it was the craziest, most hilarious, yes. Random thing. Like, that's why I'm so happy. I mean, off campus is going to be great. It's going to be fantastic.

I'll be in a house with storm. But there's something about Simpson that I will miss because there's that. What is wrong? Who are you? What is this? I mean, never been to a restaurant. That's one of the wonderful parts of, of, that I find, at least of Simpson is like,

it's still one of the few places. where you can give your friends a hard time and still be friends. Yeah. Because a lot of people nowadays have a hard time taking like... Taking the punishment a little bit. Do we give it and we take it?

Exactly. If you live in Simpson, honestly, just if you live... Yeah. You know, this is my parents always taught me is like, because we're a house we like to make fun of each other, like to horse around.

And it's like, dude, you gotta like just... You got to go with it. You can't be all... Well, don't make fun of me. I'm... No, you just, man, come on. Because you're going to get to dish it right back. within 20 minutes.

I got a funny story about that with like family stuff. So my uncle who lives in Wisconsin is the youngest brother of two other brothers and an older sister. And when he was engaged

to my aunt, which they're both very wonderful people. But my family is kind of known for being a little bit kind of, you know, aggressive with each other when it comes to the dishing it.

Goated. That's nice. And, you know, he's the youngest of four-sib, Oh, he's go. Oh, man. So it's, I think if I remember correctly, it was Thanksgiving, and he brings his fiance with him,

and they're just giving him a ton of crap. And they're like, you know, making fun. They're like, oh, Timmy's this, Timmy's this, Timmy's that. Timmy's this, Timmy's that. And his childhood name too. And his fiance gets up, and she's like, you guys all need to lay off of Tim. You know, this is, this is just mean and terrible.

And there was like in silence for like five seconds. And then everyone died laughing. And then everyone just was like, what do you mean we need to lay off and they just laid in there for like 20 minutes. To this day. She's an import. She's new. Shut off. She's new.

She's new. You don't know how things work. To this day we all laugh about it. But yeah, it's like yeah, it's a good dynamic to have with family. It's a good dynamic to have with friends. That's all the guys are in my family. My mom is like really sweet. So she's always like,

guys. Stopping. That's great. Well, hold on. Does your dad have siblings? my dad has a brother I guarantee you when she was an import

she's seen it happen man there's nothing quite as awesome and that's another thing kind-hearted nice person like Simpson's the best there's nothing better than those like brothers

yes I only have the one and Xavier you're goaded you don't listen to this show it's kind of sad I got three I think one of them does if Beau you're listening I love you we don't do that as much anymore and I miss that but I wish we kind of

of Josh a little bit more. Yeah. Or I had more brothers. Yeah. I have a younger sister, so that's why I found, like, such a tight community in Simpson. I never really had a brother or anything like that. So, Simpson, you get, like, 150 brothers. It's, and it's like a rotating door.

Yeah. At the beginning of you never expect, like, you, and this is always something I found with, like, pictures. Like, you take pictures at the banner drop night, and it's like, wow, that guy is two people away from me, and now I've been living with him for, like, two years. And, like, he's one of my best friends. I didn't even know his name. Yeah.

At all. It's like such a rant. Like you just meet somebody random people. Yeah. Like this guy loves what I love. And it's just like it's so awesome. I think,

oh, you're gonna say? Well, I mean, yeah, that's like what we talked about at that one talk we had, that first one. It's an outpouring of love. Like that is really one of the special things

you get out of the communities at Hillsdale is it's genuinely a community of people who genuinely have each other's best interest at heart and actually like, want to love people. It's not just self-centered. It's not like, what can I do to build my cloud?

What can I do to build my like, you know, influence. It's like you gain influence through the love and self-sufflessness that you show towards other people. Yeah. And like the way the dorm, at least the guys dorms here on campus are structured, are really conducive to that.

Because like staying in the dorms when your friends are leaving as you get older and move through them, it becomes more of a sacrifice. but you're giving back to the thing that gave so much to you freshman and sophomore year. Exactly. And that just like opens up the upper classman's hearts. And then to have that as a place to like immediately come into for their first year and two years of college opens up the lower classmen's hearts. And it's just really just like great for all around for everybody to be surrounded by like like when you're a sophomore and you're junior, you have mentors and mentees at the same time.

It's awesome. It's just magical. It's like we say at the beginning of the semester, you know, if you're coming to college to find a wife, you're also coming here to find your best man. Yeah. Like, you're going to find, it's such a heater. Such a heater. You're going to find your closest friends here.

Yeah. Good stuff. I'm so happy about it. I'm so happy. I'm just so happy. I feel so blessed this year. This year is just joyous. I've been joy maxing this semester and it's just fantastic.

Yeah. Well, time to make me sad. Let's see what questions we have. Now that we're done with the dobers. Now we're done before talking before the talking. Nate, what's the song for this one? You know what we should do? You know, Storm,

we used to have this great section in our shows. And it would be like, oh, this is what's been happening. in our life, like in Hillsdale and stuff. And I don't think we've had a storm Drexler news slash events slash whatever section in, I don't know. It's like the first episode. We kind of dropped that section after nothing happened. Not really. Not really actually.

Nothing. Not really. It kind of like the show really, and I'm feeling like I want to talk about a little about the show for a second. The show has morphed a lot. If you've been with us since Waffle House Starry Night. Oh, with Marks. One and a half years ago. Wow.

At this point, we were a year and a half in De Bois only. If you've been with us the whole way, the first five episodes of the show do not look at all like the five members of recent ones. Like, this show is very much more. And that is, as much as it is, we've gone with the flow. There's also intentionality there. And I like that we've just become a space for people to have their voice. We had Dylan on a few weeks ago, and he was able to talk about his street,

his spring break mission trip. That was beautiful. And we've had some alumni on and some professors on who and the shooting coach, Andre on, who were able to get out messages to a broader audience that they otherwise Willie wouldn't have been able to. And I love that this has become more, if more than anything, a platform and that Nate and I are holding that up rather than being held up. And I love that. And Justin pointed that out when he was on the show a couple weeks ago about the humility aspect.

And I'm like, that's awesome. And I am humbled by the shows, the limited success the show has had. and it's pretty awesome actually we have listeners on every content except and Arctic I've been hearing this although we're getting to the penguin soon we do probably have listeners on every continent

we're getting to we're getting to the penguins soon I have no idea probably bots but you know it's probably I might be that's alright shockingly the majority of our listeners are from North America I had no idea that 99.98% of our listeners live in United States I would wager that like probably 90% of your listeners come from Michigan

yes well a lot of people from back home a lot of people from your home a lot of people well not a lot of people but like I don't know but no matter who you are parent, grandparent, uh, sibling, child student student teacher professor whoever you are listening to boys only right now

thank you so much we really really appreciate you're lending us your ear week after week or even if you're just tuning in thank you so much we have a whole backlog episodes if you think we're funny now we were way funnier a year ago summer's coming up and well me and storm live really far far away from each other. So we're not going to be making

any new content over the summer. The last episode will be next week. A week from today. Yeah. So that one, it's going to be... Insane. That is going to be a heater, as you've seen on the Instagram. I will not stay the guest here. Because we're focusing on this week's guest, which is the Big Bob. Big Robert. Big Robert. Which is the people

have some questions for Big Robert. Yes. Yes. Two people have questions for Robert Lynn now. A whole two. Wow. Liam. Oh, and then it's Wyatt. Oh, glorious. Watton. He has texted me yet. He has texted me. matter of fact. Liam asked,

what is your philosophy of leadership? Because you know, leadership. You are one of, a quick count one, two, three. I'm going to count Rastow as

emeritus a little bit because he's on whip. Six. And the number you're looking for is six. Sure. Six years of the dormice here. Six, does that include Rasto? Yes.

Okay. But he's a bit, he's emeritus as a rich. You stare at Jonathan, Rastevac. Who else is in the norm? Oh, Kellyn and Liam. Callin. Callin. Yeah.

Got it. So what is your philosophy of leadership? Philosophy of leadership. I would say to like to develop as a leader and people try too hard to learn how to become a leader in my opinion.

Yeah, that is a good line. Like because like you know, I mean I dropped out of the class because I had a very heavy course load this semester. I was starting to take leadership with Dr. Jennings. And it was a great class.

But one of the things you kind of talked about at the start was like too many people just try too hard to learn how to become a leader. And I think like I think a lot of it just kind of comes from how you can naturally draw people into you. And it's like finding the aspects of yourself that you can kind of amplify to try and make those more prevalent, like to get people to kind of. like understand where you're coming from on that Santa point. So I like, I mean, um, the, you know, the person who I kind of tried to model myself after,

obviously you guys have been on the show, Justin Peterson, he's a wonderful leader in the dorm. He, he helped help me kind of get through a rough point in my sophomore year just with development, learning like just how to kind of stand up and get people to listen to you. I'm, you know, like I said, I'm a small guy with a high-pitched voice. Oftentimes, we still love you, Bob. Yes. Oftentimes, people, my freshman year I got in a,

in a brief, you could call it shouting match in Saga with a senior graduated named Luke Turnbow, a wonderful person. He looked at me and said, Bobby. He's gone to Valhalla. Bobby, he's like, I need you to talk with your chest voice. And this was, this is,

what a great long. Freshman year, Bobby, who was five foot four and 115 pounds, even smaller. I was like, I am using my chest voice turbo. This is the exact voice I was using. I am using my chest voice. And he's like, no, I need you to talk like down here in your chest voice. And I was like, I am talking in my chest voice right now. Bring it down, Robert. So, so like, you know, a lot of like, like, a lot of the things that people look for like naturally in a leader, um, you know, obviously like you think of someone like Saul, right? Um, you know, tall, powerful, just like something that people are drawn to. That's a natural thing. That's a natural thing. the people are drawn to an issue. And wasn't David like five, six? Yeah, David was like short, skinny, like. He was apparently beautiful though.

Well, yeah. Like, Logie, it was apparently just gorgeous. Which is always like a trait if you like mention, like, I was, I mean, we talked about Tassus with Gurkie, but like that's always some like thing that everyone like, oh, this famous guy. Yeah, he was just beautiful. Yeah. Or he's horrifically.

It is one of two. Either he's like the. Socrates. You're the most chopped person ever. Shut it out, dude. Have you ever read Nietzsche's Twilight of the idols? No. So it's this thing where he just got, I mean, it's, it's, it's just like, he's kind of talking about how we need to pursue a new, like, intellectual tradition because the current intellectual tradition is failing, you know, because he's basically like living in, you know, 19th century Europe, he's like, hmm, yes, God has exited society. This is a problem. We need to find a new leader. And he goes, like, there's this is, there's this entire, like, page and a half of Twilight of the Idols where he's just like, yeah, Socrates was dumb and he was ugly. And he was ugly. And he.

He looked like such a chud and he's just like, he's just like Socrates was shocked. Oh, man. Maybe it's my bias, but if you're ugly, it's probably pretty dumb. Oh, my gosh, bro. Oh, my gosh, bro. How stupid do you think I am? You're super hot. Oh, yeah, I forgot.

Sorry. Yeah, everyone listening here. Everyone listening. Why'd you become like a Southern aristocrat? I'm definitely not using my Southern aristocrat. I know why that's like my voice that I put on when I want to sound deeper. Start talking like a Southern aristocrat. But, but yeah, like, you, part, part of becoming a good leader is,

is like finding what you can kind of channel in yourself to get other people to want to listen to you. So like for me that was like I'm not going to be like a big, you know, physical person. I can't, you know, deck someone the size of like Zach Riley or something like that. You, you're a big, huge, enormous Goliath, Zach Riley. Random shout, I guess. What a big Z? Shout out my Sasquatch king. But like, if you can find, like, you know, for me, I found that I might not have a ton of knowledge on, like, the lore of, you know, Hillsdale or Simpson or something like that.

But, you know, someone asked me a couple weeks ago, graduate, Jay Gould, never on the show, but wonderful person. He asked me the question, like, what would you, like, reflecting back on your time at Hillsdale, what would be one thing that you wish you did or, like, that you're glad that you knew you did? And I said that you change someone's mind about something, about Hillsdale, about, you know, Simpson, about life. Like, if you can get on a, like, personable level with someone and just talk to them about their problems, their life, you can emerge as a leader in that way, too, right? You don't have to sit there and be like, I'm going to solve all your problems. But a lot of times people just want someone to talk to you.

They just want to like someone to listen to them. You know, and that's kind of something that I've found has been really, something that I've been able to bring to the table to tell people is just being like, yeah, I'm here if you want to talk. Like, let's chat.

You know, listen to this. I heart agree with everything. I echo everything there. I would add, I think that like people aren't not looking for, I don't know, someone who like wants to lead them.

People are looking for someone who's passionate about the thing they're passionate about. So if you're passionate about something and you want to make it happen, and so you're going to rally, the guys to get it to happen. That's the guy people want to follow us. Not the guy who's like, I want to be in charge. Listen to me. It's not listen to me. It's like, I'm really passionate about this. I'm going to do this. Are you with me? That's who you're behind. Not the guy who's like, can I, you guys want to listen to me? If you're passionate about something, people will follow you. It's like that great, it's like that great cartoon about how the boss sits on like the

chair and says, workers, do the thing. And then the leader has the sword in the front. It's like, let's go do it. That is true. Br. Maybe a flaming sword. People will notice your character and your personality. Being a leader is putting yourself out in the out in the light. Yeah. And you just made this stupid. Sorry. I really didn't know what to use. But being a leader is putting yourself out in the light. And see, everyone's going to see you pretty, like, there's no deceit in being a leader. Like if, like, you have to kind of really be behind the curtain and not be a true leader. You have to be a boss to be, uh, and to be like that. But if you're a true leader, people are going to see who you are. And they're going to recognize whether you're really actually passionate about this and you actually want to lead them well or if you just want to be a person who's in charge of things. And you just want to be a person who's in charge of things. And. and want to be, I want to boss people around. So that is a great distinction. Boo, that.

Boo, boss is not it. Give me leaders. So do you guys think it's like there's something in you, you got to have? You gotta have something in you, like something that's almost like, like ferocious,

something that's like like a guardian, something that is almost canine inside of you. Deep cut. You gotta be a guardian, guys. You gotta have, you gotta have, shut out stair,

you gotta have something. You gotta have. Shout out stairwell. You gotta have. You have to have. something like that in you. I don't, the word, the thing that you have in you, eluding me, but you know, you know, yeah.

Spirit. Yeah, I mean, I think, I think, that helps. If you're hungry, you can't live well. If you're hungry, you gotta have food. I mean, I think, yeah, I think passion's a good way to describe it. Like, just, but like, not, not, not, unbridled passion, right? Because, you know, we are told to, like,

maintain your passions, but at the same time, like. Passion and heart. Heart, yeah, got to have heart. Yes, heart and then character in the yoke of the Oh my, all right, bro. Someone's been taking a philosophy class. Hi guys. Hey guys, it's me.

Who's your favorite philosophy prof? Philosophy prof here? Yeah, Bobby. I'd say it's a tie between Dr. Church and Dr. Winston. What about both of them is great? He's like awesome.

Dr. Church is an extremely personable professor. Like he does a very good job of like of lifting four trillion times. Oh, yeah. guest on this show, Dr. Church. No, he's really good it like relating to you and just kind of like talking about topics that you want to talk about

not just like hey i'm going to spout off for you know 50 minutes or 75 minutes about whatever topic i want to talk about like he actually goes into things that are like applicable to the real world which i find very very interesting he's a leader yes he's not a boss he's a leader good that dr winston dr winston is great because um he's a graduate of hillsdale actually um yes i didn't know that he's he's insanely intelligent and he does a very sorry

I took him this time this time he took a funny return funny face to Nate yeah Dr. Winston Oh I thought you were biting

the mic Oh no no no I was making a funny face He would never disrespect the glorious mics of WR Php yeah yeah sacrosanct

but no yeah so he's he's had the Hillsdale experience sorry we're really just wrecking about his thing he's had the Hillsdale experience so he's very relatable

about that and he's he's had the Hillsdale experience so he's very relatable about that and he He also is, he's from Belgium originally. Like actually from Belgium, Belgium? Yeah. Wow. Yes.

And like, whenever we're reading certain philosophers, he'll just be like, see, I relate to this because Belgium is terrible, depressing, and sad all the time. And this reading was very terrible depressing and sad. Much love to our Belgian listeners. But your country talks, according to Dr. Apparently your country is awful. Is he French or Dutch?

French. Okay. So he's from Willowlo? Wallonia. It all makes... Flanders is the Dutch side of Belgium. No, Flanders is Simpson's neighbor.

Bought a new perolola wagon. That's an elite pole. That's the deepest pull I've ever heard on this show ever. Sorry. He'll also just make like random references to European things. Crosan. Don't get. So, yeah.

Like a grissons? Like a euro or like a... No, like. The other day, we all know what the euro is. Nate does not. Deep Europe polls. Nate just gave you a look. Nate just gave you a look like he has no idea what a euro is.

Money. He don't use the dollar over there? No. Oh. Extremely serious. But like, yeah. So in aesthetic theory, we're talking about like beautiful things. And like one of the philosophers we were reading, he's kind of differentiating like what sets

a part of beautiful exemplar of this. thing versus a not beautiful thing. So like it's, uh, dog. We need to let Bobby just talk, Storm. You can't keep sniffling into the microphone. I sniffled away from the microphone. And it was the loudest sound that's ever happened.

But we're talking about like, uh, you know, like the example that the, the writer sets out is a beautiful, uh, like a Spanish paul free versus like a workhorse. And he's like, and he's like, Because there's two examples. Like the first one is like a beautiful vase. And then the second one is a Spanish pulfry. And when he said Spanish pulfry, like everyone's just giving this look of like, what?

What? He's like, do you guys know what that is or like, no? And he's like, it's a horse. And I was like, oh. Oh. I was like, oh. He's a horse. Hello horse.

Oh, man. This is a president of Brendan Burnham and Joey both real quick. This is about to become twice. minutes of curious chore. Did anyone listen to that episode? Apparently so. People would have to ask me about that. You'll be like, why did you guys do that?

Love of the game. Love of the gaming, baby. We are unabashedly ourselves. Yes. And if we want to have a guy on, as long as he's a dude, we'll have him on. Yep.

It's not actually strictly, please not solicit me or not ask. Please not solicit me or not on the podcast. That's a really good way to be not on the podcast. If you beg to be on the podcast, yeah. But yeah, I would say those two are probably my favorite philosophy. Unless you're Victor,

Victor, come ask me. Yeah. Victor, well, Victor's a house, mean, he'll be on there. Yeah. I mean,

I don't think I ever got the whole philosophy thing. I don't love wisdom. Yeah. No. Because you're stupid. Yeah.

You're just beautiful and dumb. Yep. Just like someone from history, but I don't know who because I'm stupid. That was a good question. Thanks, Liam.

Yeah, Liam, you've been just delivering all semester, Liam. Just shout out to you, man. You'll be on here eventually. Shut up. Someday in the very far future

He will be a part of the Hairiest Simpson roommate pairing that is ever Existice. All right. All right. Are him and Jones gonna be back-to-back episodes, you think? Liam and Jones will probably be next Like, spring. Golly, man.

It's gonna be like two heirs. My favorite thing in talking to both of them about them rooming next year is we'll be like, that room's gonna smell terrible and then they'll both... It's the other one. It's the other one. It's the other guy. Liam and Thad's room smells not bad.

Yeah, it does. Yeah, it does. I haven't been on there. A little bit. I just assumed it was a little bit. We love them both very much. They're both kind of musky. Some musky degrees.

All right, y'all. Well, one is from Roswell. This is the content you tune in, the boys only to hear about. Speaking of Curious George. Speaking of Curious George. Zan asks, what's the most important lesson you learned at Hillsdale? Most important lesson. See, the Curia George is supposed to be a non-sequent or segment.

We're talking about something not related. Not related. Not learned at Hillsdale? Hmm. Um, why? I would say, No, we're not doing that again. I would say, um,

the, the, like, tempering of opinions. Hmm. Collaborate. That's something that, um, I believe Dr. Gricky talked about it in, in a couple of the talks that I've,

I've seen him in. And then also Dr. Arnd kind of mentioned in our, uh, in our senior capstone. Is it like, um, we're going into, a world where, um, because he was talking about prudence. He's like prudence is, is something

that is just relevant, not relevant, that's not a word, um, wherever you're going. Like, we're going to the world where we have to make the prudent choice, the prudent decision all the time. Um, and he said, a big part of prudence is, is being able to like properly, um, like, mitigate your opinions. You know, this was some, this was something I do remember Dr. Gerke mentioned. eyes like you are an 18 to 23 year old person at college why do you feel like you are so have to be so attached to your opinions you've experienced nothing zero absolutely nothing like you are 18 years 18 to 22 years of thousands and thousands of years that have existed so what makes you think that you can like fully be you know

just full tilt into this opinion. And I think that's one of the most important lessons I've learned at Hillsdale is like your your opinions matter obviously. Like your opinions are partially of what make you who you are. But at the same time, like, their opinions. Yeah. So if I may give a violently, horrifically reductionist view of that, you are stupid than you think you are. I mean, yeah.

No, that's part of it. You know, there's a reason that. Learn from the. people that you talk to. There's a reason that like the first week and a half of your time at Hillsdale College is just Dr. Arne and the Dean's insulting your intelligence repeatedly. And it's because it's a real ego killer man. It's because so many people come here and they're like, you know, the smartest in their class.

And then it's like, well, that's good. The death of ego is the birth of learning. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I would say mitigating opinions. That's, that's probably one of if not the most important lesson that I've learned here. Learn how to learn. exactly do we talk about that last week you can't you can't you can't be open to learning if you are

fully dedicated to your opinions yeah like that's that's something that i've kind of seen as a is a common trend with a lot of people here specifically is they'll be like oh well i don't like so and so because i think their idea about this is bad i was actually just talking about this with uh me and a couple freshmen went out to chick fillet and jackson i saw that i was really jealous of that and and we were just kind of talking about like you know uh he got on the we got on the top of book of Machiavelli. And it's like, you know, a lot of people will just be like, oh, I'm, I hate Machiavelli. He's terrible. And a lot of his opinions are bad. And it's like, yeah, I agree. His opinions are not great. But at the same time, you can't just be like, oh, I'm going to write him off entirely because I don't like

this one thing or something like that. And that's something that I've learned specifically in the philosophy department because I think philosophy is very, very, like, divided when it comes to just discussion and like, like, don't sabotage yourself by being unwilling to. to engage just because the person is dumb or you think they're dumb. And when you're taking intro to philosophy and stuff like that, your professor's gonna, you're gonna have to read Descartes,

you're gonna have to read Nietzsche, you're gonna have to read Aristotle, you're gonna have to be Plato, like don't just sit there and say like, oh, I'm only gonna enjoy reading Plato and Aristotle. Like, come to enjoy the, you know, read Nietzsche, even if you don't want to. Even if you disagree with Nietzsche,

Nietzsche is genuinely one of the most enjoyable philosophers to read because he is a genius and he is an insanely good writer. And his stuff is fun. Like, it's actually fun to read. Even if his end result is not always the greatest. And I think another, like, and this was something, oh, I can't remember who talks about this all the time. And I'm going to be really upset with myself, as I don't know.

But everyone who we are reading, like, they genuinely believe what they are saying with conviction. They're not like just, well, someone's got to give the other point, I guess. It's not devil's advocate. Like, these, like, they're serious about this. And you have to be too. If an argument is wrong and you know it's wrong, then theoretically, of course, there's nothing that will change in your life by saying, what if I actually seriously value this for at least a little bit?

Like, what if I fully take them on, fully take it on? Become, when you're reading Nietzsche, become Nietzsche. Become Nietzsche. Why is he thinking? I think it's actually, I don't call me on this, but I think Dr. Church talks about that a lot. I think his philosophy classes. That sounds like a doctor churchism. But it's like, just do it, you know?

And I struggle with that a lot, particularly freshman year, because I really thought I had it all figured out, man. I was like, I'm not going to read Plato. I've circled back on Plato a little bit. I still don't think he's, no, I don't like him. I don't like him because I think that there are better people who say better. That's fair.

People say a lot. In the triad of Plato Socrates, Aristotle? No, just like later. Oh, okay. There are people who are more comprehensible than he is. I would agree, but I think he's on top of those. three people I just listed. I mean, dude, Socrates is just D1 troll.

Yeah. That's funny. Yeah, that's hilarious, dude. Man after my own heart. What do I just break people's souls? Well, so that's my favorite part. Like, people, so people, um, Hillsville's very like classic centered, you know,

classical, we want to read Plato, Aristotle, all these ancients, right? I highly encourage people to read contemporary philosophy because it's hilarious. Like, if you read, um, It was Soren Kierkegaard after I believe he was reacting to, I'm going to date myself here now, I think it was Hegel. He's reacting to Hegel. And after reading Hegel's treatise, he said, I think it was Hegel.

Because Heidegger was later, right? I don't know. I don't know. I'm not a philosophy guy. I'm pretty, it was one of the German guys with an age. Rip the quote. He said after reading this, this would have been the greatest philosophical treatise ever written had he added

five words to the end of it it was all a joke what day that is a that is a burn dude that is just brutal it was all a joke it was all a dream like just taking pot shots at each other like Ludwig Wittgenstein dude

hilarious like he had a ripin at him he had like a two hour debate with Bertrand Russell who was largely considered like the father of modern logic about whether or not there was a rhinoceros in the room brother

yeah so there's like because people did someone made I can imagine it like a mockumentary so but there could

be yeah yeah but there's not a rhinoceros but there's not a rhinoceros but what about this and then Russell

there's literally just a clip and Russell was British there is not a rhinoceros in this room theoretically think about it in terms of but there's not a rhino but there's not a rhino

well he's British you can't say rhino but it's not a rhinoceros there's not a rhinoceros in this room my eyeballs are not beholden and a rhinoceros.

So it's not a rhinoosur. He's not a schauser. Are you giving him the monocerous? Ronoceros. Harry. Yeah. You're a rhino, Harry. Wittgenstein.

With the name like Wittgenstein, you've got to be dedicated to this life. He taught everywhere from like middle school to like graduate level, like, professor work. I thought you were going to talk about places. You said where? No, no, no. Yeah. He actually got kicked out of like three different like lower education institutions because he would just develop philosophical treatises with the class. So like he'd be talking to a bunch of like middle schoolers.

Love of the game. Talking about like philosophy of language and they're just like nah, nah, brother. Based. He also famously attacked a student with a fire poker because he didn't like their essay. What is? All right. Okay. Unbased.

Like like like imagine. Grange. Imagine imagine if you wrote a paper and your prop was like, this was so terrible, I'm going to stab you now. Relax, man. It's not that bad. It's an F.

F doesn't stay for fire poker. You got a fire poker grade on us. All right. Well, that might be getting into insanity. A little bit. Yeah, he had a couple screws loose. I mean, dude, I want to just touch back on his name for a second. Let's his full name again.

Ludwig Wittgenstein. That is just a heater, dude. That's actually my sixthborn son. Ludwig Wittgenstein Gallagher. No, he's also like, Joe Van Gogh. Gallagher. Talking about, like, philosophers just being total trolls.

He was an absolute troll. He wrote this, so it's called the Logicus Tractatus, philosophicist, the, we translated to the, philosophical tractatus. Did you just say words? English, please. He was, so he was Austrian, right? So as a good Austrian, like, you know, vaguely almost German person, his entire philosophical treatise is just a numbered list. Yeah, I love that, man.

Thank you. Thank you so much. Just tell me what you want to say. And he goes through, you know, it's essentially just like, I think it's like, it's either 100 or 50 or like 150. I can't remember how many, but it's basically just bullet points. And they're all, you know, at most like four or five lines long. and he ends this treatise. This was his only complete work, by the way.

He wrote two things. This was his only complete work. He ends that by saying, really, though, the only thing, like, basically he's like, he says, once we have climbed a ladder of knowledge, we must kick it out from underneath us to pursue further knowledge. And then he also said, and that ladder is what I have just said. So he basically says, read my entire philosophical, like treatise and then forget it. Dog.

Is that humility? I don't even... I don't know what that is. It's trolling. I thought this dude was just insane. Read what I said, but do not take it to heart. I think it's just insane.

I think so, you've lost me progressively as we've talked to us. This guy's so bad. He was like, ah, well, I don't know about that. I just said, it was fun. This is why I say people should read modern philosophy. That's most philosophers I read. Because it's really funny.

And I'm like, oh, no. Wait a minute. Except Renee Descartes. Oh. First of all, first of all, top ten names of all time. René Descartes. What are your top ten names of all time? Oh, Gaston Glock.

That's one. Gaston Glock is fire. Gaston Glock is fire. Gaston Glock is in Sanmeree. It's a keyerston, but still, Gaston Giacdn Glech is kind of crazy tough. I mean, that is... Ludwig Wichtonstein. Lus Vigigstein insanely tough.

Yeah. You know what? Amerigo Vespucci. Amarigo Vesbucci? Come on now, man. Mamma Mia. Here we go. No,

Mamma Mia. Mamma Mia. I mean, the one that says simple. I mean, Lord Byron. I mean, Lord Byron is actual. Byron is neat.

But like Lord Byron is heat. Having Lord and your name is just tough. Percy Shelley is pretty cool. Yeah. The guy who wrote, like, Ossimandia. Percival,

Fredricstein von Musil, Coalcky de Rollo III. That's a cut. It's a great one. It's a deep cut. It's a reference. I don't get the reference. that one. It's a D&D.

Alan. Alan. Especially if I thought like a one-eyed guy. One-eyed guy. One-eyed. Hanging out. Seth Rogen. You know the Seth Rogen. Rippin the Seth Rogen laugh. Mid-boys.

That's kind of ridiculous. You know what one of my favorite names is, though? Wyatt Peters. That's a segue in a half right there. This is one of his just, I don't even know really what to make of this. I can't make heads or tails of it. Would you rather get an X-ray level dose of ionizing

radiation every time you sneeze or have to experience the femur breaker once? What is the femur breaker? I don't know. The femur breaker once? Once, you have to experience the femur.

Not a broken femur, but the femur breaker. The femur breaker. It is stupid. The femur's the upper leg. Up leg. It's a torture. It's a torture device.

What is it? Does it just crush your femur? What in this? Is it just snap? Only your femur. Oh, it's an SCP. You know what those are? Like the, yeah, yeah.

The cryptic kind of things. It's a device used in one of the SCPs containment chamber to break its femur. No way. Repeatedly breaking fear. What is it do? I'm going to show. It's exactly. Listener, it's exactly.

It's exactly what you're thinking. I'm going to show them the picture, though. Yeah, that's atrocious. All right, so this metal device destroys, atomizes your femur. What? Unbelievable painful once. Or what was the other option? Basically, get an x-ray every time you sneeze.

No, x-ray levels of radiation, not getting an x-ray. But essentially getting an x-ray. It's kind of bad. I mean, I'll take the femur breaker once on. I might never walk again, but dude. Your femur's gone. Being able to say that I adore the femur breaker and give someone zero knowledge as to what that means is electric. They put me through the femur breaker.

The name of this episode is going to be the femur breaker. The femur breaker rhinocerous. Freeman Morgan Breaker. Freeman Morgan. Morgan. Morgan. I feel like I'm going with this. I think I'm going with the sneeze.

The Morgan. I'm going with the sneeze. Femmer. 100%. You cannot get me in the femur breaker. I refuse. I want to walk

and I feel like I don't sneeze that much. And I'm okay slowly becoming an irradiated ghoul over the course of my life if it means I don't have to get my femur dischargoy. Atomized by Wyatt's

femur breaker. It's why it specifically. I imagine why it's the one that's like he's the torture guy and he turns it on. He just keeps it in his basement. It's in his basement. It's just for the same of. his dorm room he's old all right three his legs so unbreakable he can use like an exercise yes

that that is that is the kind of thing you would walk into Wyatt's room training what's that the fever breaker and he wouldn't look out of lap playing hell divers so it's like it's like this one time last semester and the most like just lucid dream experience ever was hanging out with owen johnson one night we're just walking around the dorm was a Saturday night and we're just kind of bored. Oh, this. And we walk by, and why it's like talking with us. And he's like, you want to see the two-stroke motor that I have in my room?

Very not okay. To having a room, by the way. And you're a petro. Very unsafe, highly dangerous. I mean, he wasn't like using it in the room. He was just having it. Just ripping it in the room. Ripping it in his room.

Oh. So we're like, okay, yeah, sure. So we walked down to his room. And like, he's just kind of two-stroke motors sitting there. too, what's that? Along with like a circular saw and a couple other tools. Brother. And we're just like,

what are you doing, why? How does Furkey live? He's like, I'm building something. Like, dude, if you've been, what's that something you've been in their room? Their room is,

50, 50. It is either like brutal orthodox iconography and like prayer and incense going or two-stroke engine, femur breaker. Like, what are we doing? No. Yeah, like my other personal favorite experience of walking into Wyatt Peters's room is coming back for the first time this semester.

I went to Costco with Peter Go Kristen. It's like, hey, can you get me, can you get me a Kirkland? We're a side quest of all time. He's like, can you get me a Kirkland, like one of the things that's hot dogs? Because Wyatt likes hot dogs. So, so it's this, it's this, if you've, if you've never seen the Kirkland hot dog packages, it's like. Is it just a bag full of dogs? Two and a half feet of hot dogs.

Oh my God. Like, you know how hot dogs are packaged? It's like two and a half feet of that three deep. Oh, my God. 60 hot dogs. How many glizzies are in that layer container, bro? Wyatt, I guarantee you got so excited when he saw that. Wyatt is like, oh, my God, my 45 glisies.

So, like, oh, why? And I'm like, hey, where do you want me to put the hot dog? Because I'm walking into his room because he wasn't there. He was at work. And he's like, he was like, Alvenmo you? Can you just put him in the north side fridge? And I was like, oh, yeah, sure. And as I turned around to walk out, see, there's a bag on his desk.

I think Nate knows what I'm talking about here. He has a bag of bagels. Yes. That is like liquefying. Yeah, the bagels are so. The bagels are liquid form. No, they're just so oiled. So old.

They're unopened. They have turned it into liquid. They're unopened. bagels. I can't even picture liquid bagels. It's really bad, man. It looks so disgusting. And he just keeps it. Why does he throw it away? Love of the game.

I can't answer every question. No, he can with Wyatt. How are we had Wyatt on this show? Yes. Fantastic. For those who are wondering if the legendary Wyatt Peter is crafter of each and every Would You Rather question every week here on the show,

if he will ever himself guest on Boys Only? He will. Just you wait. He might have to be the closer for Christmas next. year. Dude, I didn't even know this show existed. I just kept asking

what you'd rather what's just innate? What would you rather? People would walk and be like, dude, what is that question? What? What he's talking about? Wyatt.

Well, he's not even listening. No, he doesn't listen. Yeah, well, thanks for the great question, I guess. I'm choosing the radiation. Just like my femurs and the femur breaker

coming to an end. Your femur atomizing, Bobby's experience here on the show. Bobby's about to be atomized. Bobby's about to be atomized. As we've never seen, you've never seen someone who's been on the show. We're about to blast you with the boys only atomizer Ray. Please, definitely.

The boys only in Aitor. And I don't have to take my final on Tuesday. Well, seriously, yes. God, yeah, pray for all of us. Seriously, though, thank you so much for coming on boys only. And thank you all for listening to another great semester. We got one more episode. But this is kind of the last, like, episode we're going to be able to, like, joke around a lot.

Next week we'll be kind of, like, a more serious. Yeah, we can kind of just, you know. We can kind of just yuck around right now. So seriously, thanks everyone for laughing and listening and hanging out with us. It really means a lot. How many episodes have been this semester? Like a lot. More than most semesters, we've kind of locked in this semester.

Like 15. But more than anything, thank you, Bobby. For laughing. Thank you for laughing. For live laughing and loving all the way home. For hanging out and being such a dear friend all this time. We're never going to see you again. Ever again.

What are your last words? So give us your last word before we cap your ab back behind the doghouse. It was all a joke. Yeah, yeah, it was all a joke. There you go. To the freshman who's just finishing up their first year or maybe listening as they're coming into this experience that you are now ending,

what would you say? I would say soak in as much as you can without your own prejudice. Because your prejudice and like your mindset is going to work its way in no matter what. But do as a little bit.

much as you can to avoid, like, hearing things with your own prejudice. Listen, listen to your upperclassmen, listen to people who tell you to do crazy things. Just have fun, enjoy it, and, and let other people, people want to work with you. They want to work, like, not work on you, but, you know, like, help you become better. So let them. Be open to that. Humility good or something. Yes.

Extremely glorious. Thanks again for joining. Nate, what are your last words? I don't quite have last words yet. We will do last words for the semester. We'll do concluding remarks and thank you for listening and we'll be back in August. And da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-all.

No, you're going to get atomized. You're going to be. You've never seen us. Or Storm Dradler. You've never met either. Dreadler? That's when you go to Sirrios. Text-Mexler. I'm going to go to El Cerritos later.

I'm going to be Tex-Mex. He's going to morph into trash trash. I love Max. I love Max. Yum-YM-M-M-E-M-C-WKlock. Another freak walk. I'll be the name of an episode later. Freak Gwag.

Bro, you're literally getting rid of freak quag. In the middle of Adam of quack on my plate. This has been another fantastic episode of Bubba, Boys only. I've been Storm Drexler. I've been Nate Gallagher. I've been Bobby Lindown. And we thank you so much for your time.

Bye-bye.