WRFH/Radio Free Hillsdale 101.7 FM - The Bojanglican | Boys Only #20

Episode Date: November 1, 2025

Nate and Storm chat with Dominic Taranto about swords, church history, and the Ohio Turnpike Popeyes.

So, Nate, what are you dressing up as for Halloween? A snack. It's not Halloween yet, though. And you're already dressed up? Like a snack? Oh, you're dirty dog. Wait, actually, it was Halloween like yesterday. Yep, all right.

Halloween is yesterday. This is the post-Halloween, extra spooky episode of our podcast. Someone starts playing a theremin. That's right. Starring you. A piece of two. Toast. And me, Gildooy.

Avi Moine. This feels like a random, like, Rick and Morty cold open. Yeah. It is a Rick and Morty cold open. We asked the question, how did we get here on Boys? Only. It's kind of corny. That's kind of niche.

We got a guest on for this special spooky episode. It's Dominic Toronto. How you doing? Dude, I'm doing so good. I'm so happy to have you all. I've been waiting. for the Dom episode for like this whole semester. I've been like, when are we getting Domline? Oh, I'm so happy, dude. I'm so excited to be here. I'm very happy about this. Who, for those

who don't know, which is probably nobody at this point, because you're a pretty popular face around campus. Who are you? What do we, what do you do and where might we know you from? Yeah, so I'm a senior here at Hillsdale College. Where are you from? I'm from Warren to North Carolina. It's kind of goaded. Dude, Warrenton. How far are you from me? I'm in Atlanta, Georgia. So I'm like 20 minutes from the Virginia border. I'm way up there. You're north, North Carolina. Okay.

Yeah. So where do we know you from? Yeah. So I work for campus rec. I work for admissions. I am just up the hill generally. So. Mr.

administration. Yeah. The administration. Yes, yes. The Hillsdale admin Domteron. Yeah. I'm very administration-y.

Yeah. Hillsdale in a mustard jacket. I'm wearing a corduroy jacket right now. I kind of look, you guys can't see this, listeners, but Dominic's kind of dressed like, I feel like Colonel mustard from Clue. Colonel mustard. Colonel mustard in the radio station.

But it's really working. The tie is bringing the shirt and the jacket together. I like it a lot. This whole fit was like 20 bucks at Salval. Oh my God. Rating? Yeah. You'll need that.

You'll need that. It's not the rating Salvo. It's like going to upper middle class. I want to go to Goodwill. All right. Yeah. I got this been from thrifting. That's not for you.

It's for poor people. me like me we're college kids we're all broke yeah you worked in admissions this whole summer right i did yeah i remember i got back early for one of the last summer sessions and i was like oh my god dom's here yeah how was that it was a lot of fun yeah so i worked in the office uh we did a lot of stuff um there were seven other interns our big thing was sort of uh being the the the chaperone for the high school kids during the summer programs um so all the events where the kids would they would come to hillsdale on campus for a couple days they'd listen to some lectures and then they'd go to like England for two weeks. They'd go to France, Normandy, Italy,

all the fun stuff. So yeah, I was I was working that and then also just giving tours. Yeah, it was a ton of fun. How many prospeys or prospective students come here over the summer? So it really depends because, because you know, you're sort of working with other, like with high school schedules. We, geez, we had we would have like four. slots per day. Not all of them would be filled. Okay. Um, so on average, like between 10 at, you know, the minimum to 20 at most, uh, families would come in each week. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, weekends, yeah. Weekends too, or? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, because during the weekends

over the summer. Thank goodness. Yeah. I can never. Yeah. Yeah. Parents weekend just happened last week. I need another weekend. Yeah. And now it's Halloween weekend. Right now, like, what are we doing? Yeah. It's these, these, these, they don't feel like weekends. They're great. They're great. Like, my parents were here, and it was so much fun having them here. And then Sunday night rolls around. It's like, what do you mean there was class tomorrow? Exactly. Yeah, yeah.

I haven't done. We've got nothing done because my sweet grandpa was here. Exactly. Yeah, my grandpa's a sweetie. I told him to start listening to the show. So this is the first episode you listened to. Thanks, grandpa. Really ties back to the Jaden episode, which is bye-bye, grandpa.

Yeah, yeah. We called the Jaden episode at the light of last semester, bye-bye grandpa. Which is ironic because it's Jaden. Which is like, really easy. younger than I am. The youngest person ever. Who's we? He's our,

yes, we are older than that. Yes. We collectively. We combined are older than change. That's my favorite thing. In Dr. Gamble's class

a few days ago, we were talking about FDR and how in his inaugural speech in 1933 he was like, we, yes, we are willing to give up our property and our lives

in support of a stronger executive power. And I was like, who's we, brother? Not me. Not me. Me?

We? Yes, we. Speaking of we, we, as in we the people, asked a lot of questions for Dom. Hey. That's the first good transition I've ever done. That was a segue with two wheels. I feel like, I don't know. I feel like you normally have pretty good segues.

Thanks, Dom. Yeah. No one ever said that. They're like, yeah. Terrible. Anyway. So I think it was Doyle who was like, what does that have to do with anything we were to talk about?

I mean, some of the best segways are just speaking of which. We got some cues. Some cues. Hopefully you can provide some A's. Maybe. Liam asks, what is your favorite storytelling trope? Storytelling trope? Because you're a story guy.

I know you're not an English major, but like you are, your hand is there. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like tropes. Chekhov's gun when used really well is so much. It's like the payoff is amazing. Yeah, you're the type of guy in a movie to be like, oh, that's going to be important later. And then be right.

Dude, Lewis and I go back and forth because like, whenever we're watching a movie, Lewis Thune, who was on the show a few weeks ago. Of course, friend of the show. He point, like, he'll verbalize these things. Like, he'll say something that he sees in the movies. Like, that's going to be important later. And I see it, but I'm like, I feel like I want these guys to just watch the movie. And so at the end of a movie, Lewis was like, I told you guys that this was going to be important. Yeah.

And I'll be like, yeah. But I got to watch the movie. But watch the movie. Yeah. I'm a big red herring. I love red herrings. Red herrings. Yeah.

Yeah. See, I kind of hate red herrings. Totally fool me out, dude. No, totally, totally fool me out, dude. I'm sure like red herrings are sort of the opposite of Chekhov's guys. Literally the exact opposite, actually. I like things to have meaning in media. So if they're just included for like almost no literary reason.

No, the whole point of a red herring is that it, like, that is the reason is there's to fool you, to throw you off. Okay. Well, in that case, yeah. It's the twist. And there are some things where. like the red herring seems to symbolize one thing that gives you sort of an impression about the characters like wants and motives and then when you realize it's a red herring

sort of you're also looking at oh these wants and motives that I associate with the red herring are also like now I'm sort of rethinking what the characters like the red herring can take on multiple meanings and the meaning they initially portray is not the one and then it's like oh it's the it's actually a true a truth it's just in a different light it's it's very versatile yeah yes How about you, Storm? Hmm, I don't know. You could say one we've said,

probably a red herring, I don't know, that's a storytelling trope. Yeah. I like when a protagonist has a really cool sword. That's a great trope. And its name is like, given like this whole description.

It's like shattered in pieces and it's like carried on a pillow. Yes, and like refashion it or something. Or it's just like, only the worthiest can draw it from the stone. Like the sword and the stone

trope has been played in like, like the legend of Zelda, like all these other like night, like King Arthur. And I also like the trope. It's like the little boy who can't lift the sword, and then he grows into a man who can, symbolizing his ability to wield action,

but with responsibility. That's what cool. Little fun fact. So, you know when they reforge the sword for Aragorn? Yeah. That's not how sword turns into Anderil Flam of the West. That's not how sword reforging works. No.

You don't just take a sword that's in multiple pieces and then... Well, suddenly in one piece. Tolkien was able to get around all metalworking problems by saying, oh, I have mithril and it does lots of cool things. Is that what the sword's made of? I think the swords are much of the... I think so. I thought it's just made of steel.

It's unclear. Especially in the movie, it's unclear. Yeah. That was always a thing for me. I was like, damn. He got that right. He built a language for the book. He couldn't get metal forging right.

I actually think that, I don't think he specifies the way it's, like, the sort of the way that it looks in the movie. He doesn't, like, say that's what it looks like. Yeah. I like it when swords have less descriptors. I feel like the more you give it, you can start to, like, it goes on and on.

Like, if a sword is like, you know, Narsil, shard of the ever-burning, blade of the undying, and it goes on forever and ever, it's like, okay, that's pretty cool, but you would not want to mess with the guy who pulls out a sword,

and he's like, behold, Craig, the strongler. Or behold, Craig. Craig. You don't want to get in with Craig. That thing's going to cleave you into. Craig and wreck you,

bro. Dude, Claren't. So, there are like two swords that King Arthur has in, because there's the sword in the stone, there's Excaliver, and then the sword that the lady of the lake gives him, Is that one called Claren?

The C-O-A-R-E-N-T. A water-E-N-T-T-R-E-N-D. A water-E-T-R-E-N-D. The C-O-A-R-E-N-D. And, dude, whenever I'm playing, like, D-N-D or whatever, I'll name my sword Claren- because I think that's just the funniest name ever.

Yes. I really thought you said Clarence for a second. I was like, there's no way this sort is called Clarence. No, yeah. Richard. Edward. Bill. Tommy.

Bill. You've just been hit by. You know Bill is killed so many people. Yeah, that's way worse than like the edge of despair. Well, that's actually the edge of it. That's pretty hard. That's me every final season. The edge of despair.

The blade of agony. Yes. I think most blades are blades of agony. Yeah. I know a guy who, he had a needle of cognition. Like, when he named his rapier, he's like, like one of those. Cognition. I was like, bro.

You poke a little's brains out. What does that do? That's another good one. It's like, I don't, I don't know what that does. I don't know. But I'm less afraid of that than I am afraid of, I don't know. Claren't. Claren't.

Claren't. Liam also has. So you are famous as the Bojanglican. Among some circles. The Bojanglican. I'm going to bring that to light. Okay. I'm bringing it to light.

So he says, explain the Anglican Church in three sentences. The Anglican Church of the Church of England in three sentences. Um, they can be pretty long sentences. I'll give you a run on her too, if you want. Okay. So in the sixth century, comma, Pope Gregory the Great sent some missionaries to the southern part of England,

one of whom was St. Augustine of Canterbury, who started sort of the official institution of what we would call the Church of England. There had been Christians in England before. We have documents from like the second and third centuries of like French councils that English bishops are at. just my first sentence

That's all one sentence We haven't gotten to the England part yet And then from like the end of the seventh century Up until the Reformation You have the Church of England Who is associated with the Pope And to a certain degree under the Pope Once it gets closer to the Reformation

Until they got awesome Until they got awesome and said The Bishop of Rome Have no jurisdiction in this Rome Glorious Partially for political reasons All for political reasons Don't tell that to the bishops who were like yeah the doctrine of the church of Rome is is full of errors and they're all going to hell because of it

I'm sure that was they should that he said that not with a sword at their neck Yeah, yeah and they got a big fat guy in London and then there was King Edward so It was his third sentence King Henry the 8th since started my third sentence okay so King Henry the 8th doesn't change much much doctrine then comes King Edward who goes like uber Protestant and then he dies because he's young and sickly and then there's Queen Mary who brings the church of England back into full communion with the with with with the Roman Catholic Church then she dies then there's Queen Elizabeth the first the real patron you know saint of Anglicanism not King Henry the 8th and she sort of it's called the Elizabethan settlement or they sort of settle on a less extreme Protestantism where you have the 39 articles which are less of a confession than we would associate sort of

you know like the Lutheran you know confessions and the reformed confessions it's like 39 short paragraphs basically, which were more to sort of help political, you know, unity than it was actual doctrinal unity. And so I would argue that Anglicanism is Catholic Christianity with, of the Anglican patrimony. I like the shift away from the Bojangles part. Well, I was like, I like the shift away from Henry VIII as the as the patron of that. Because if you ask him that same question, he was like, he would be like, I can answer it in four words. And Bolin was hot. Dang, right on. Money. Wait, what is Bojanglican? So I like Bojangles more than I like Raising Cains. I think Bojangles is one of, if not the best chicken chain in America. Have you had Cain's sauce?

Cain's sauce is the only thing that makes Raising Cain's, like, that keeps them in business. Raising Cain's chicken is soggy and bland. No seasoning. Their fries aren't seasoned at all. They're boring. Their toast has too much butter. All right, hold on. No, no, my bread is too buttery.

My chicken's too juicy. No. But Bojangles, like, seasons their chicken. They've got the cage and seasoning. I offer you, Zaxby's. Zach's is very good. Zach's is amazing. I raise Guthrie's.

Guthrie's? Okay. I haven't had Guthers. It's not from Long Islanderland. I've never heard of it. I've lived in Arizona, North Carolina, and Michigan. I've never heard of Guthrie's. I don't know.

I had in Mississippi. And I think your mom heard about it. My mom's heard of everything. moms live everywhere. You're right. Yeah. Well, I don't know. It's really good.

It's like a middle road between the Zaxby's and the Keynes. Okay. It's a middle road. I love Zaxpies. The chicken sandwich wore in over yet.

No. That's all I'm saying. It's a Nathan Bly reference. The best chicken I've ever had was at the Ohio Turnpike Popeyes. I was going. Oh my gosh.

Holy Ratchin. I was driving home. Oh yeah. That's the name of the episode. Ohio's. Ohio Turnpike Popeye. I was driving home for Thanksgiving giving break. This would have been my sophomore year with Jonathan Williams. He lived in Virginia,

so we would drive to Virginia, and then I would drive back the rest of the way with my mom. And we stopped at this Popeyes on the Ohio Turnpike, and it was the best fast food chicken I've ever had in my life. I got to go, man. Unbelievable. The Ohio Turnpike. Field trip to the Ohio Turnpike. Ohio Turnpike Poppies. Love this. Love this. Nick asks. It's a one word question.

And this is going to get you fired out. Is it why again? No, no. Cowboys? Oh my gosh. This is going to get me sad. So why is this? Where does this come from?

I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan. I would die for the Dallas Cowboys. I could get behind the first half of that. It's... I'm a Cowboys fan. Okay. I could die. I appreciate it.

I could die. I could die. Jerry Jones is probably the worst general manager in all of professional sports. He traded away a top three defensive player for what is going to turn into a very, very late first round pick.

And then the cherry on top is the contract of the Packers ended up giving Mike out was like one and a half million per year more than we were offering. So like we could have kept him very easily. But no, yeah, the Cowboys are being carried by Dak right now. Dak should win MVP.

The Cowboys would be 0 and 8 without him. They are currently 3, 4, and 1. Yeah. It's rough out there. It's rough out there? I get it.

Luke Jones and I in this room get it. Falcons, no good. No, no, no. I'm not a Falcons fan, though. You're from Atlanta. And? He's not being tied to place?

He's not from Texas. I was born in Texas. Well, my whole mom says from Texas. I like the Cowboys. And my grandpa, same one I was mentioned earlier, loves the Cowboys. And so does my sweet pokey Luke Jones. Dude, I love Luke.

Luke's great. Big cowboy. Big cowboy out here. We're going to cycle back to the religious question, sorry. Okay. Kevin asks, thoughts on Nicaea 2? Nicaea 2? Like the second council of Nicaea.

So for those who are unaware, the second council of Nicaea is the last of what's called the seven ecumenical councils that's held in common by both Catholics, Orthodox, and then some Anglicans. Second Council of Nicaea was on the topic of icon veneration, and it basically said that historically, we think that the apostles have always venerated icons. We think that icon veneration is sort of an outgrowing of the incarnation, because they argued that the Second Commandment in the Old Testament, the reason why you couldn't make images of God is because what we don't, like God hasn't revealed himself to us in the Old Testament. Like, God hasn't revealed himself to us in such a way for us to make a physical, you know, replication of him. But in the incarnation, Christ has revealed to himself, he revealed himself to us as a person, as a human.

And so given that, it is right and just to make icons of not only Christ, but also of the saints who we venerate because of the merits of Christ, you know, in them. And so Niccia II is like, yeah, this has always happened. And if you don't do this, then you're anathema. So I think that the theology of Nicaa 2 is correct. I think the history is incorrect. I think it's pretty clear that icon veneration wasn't universally practiced until, or at least widely practiced until like the 4th or 5th century.

So you agree with the take, but you think that they are like, they overshot how hard nature goes. Yeah, I agree with, yeah, the theology of it is, I think, correct. The history is a bit shoddy. I was under the understanding just reading a little bit about icons

is that that is true, but then they didn't become widely practiced until even later after that. Yeah, yeah. It takes a while for it to become a universal practice. Because somebody said to me, it was like, yeah, people were making icons like right after Jesus died. And I was like, look through the history and I was like, I just can't find anything

that's supposed to us. So like, they're the early Christian catacombs in and around Rome that are like just covered in icons. And those are second and third century. So we have evidence of icons and sort of religious art being made, but we don't have evidence of them being used liturgically and veneration.

So I think that's a distinction that a lot of people sort of miss on this sort of topic is, yes, we have, we have, you know, evidence of them appearing early on, and we have a lot of, you know, evidence of early Christian liturgy, and icon veneration just doesn't seem to show up in that. Good stuff. Jack Peterson asks, would you rather live alone in a lighthouse in the middle of the ocean or in an ancient jungle temple, like way out in, like, Mexico? Lighthouse, easy.

The lighthouse is such a good take. J jungles, I can't. It's too hot. It's too hot. Mosquitoes, yeah. You put me in a turtle neck, dude. Hold on. Orders it.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. I'm all over. Do I, it says alone. Do I, if I'm in the lighthouse, like see ships going by occasionally? I'm assuming. You are a functional lighthouse. Then if I'm in the jungle, do like explorers come and try to steal my relics?

Archaeology. And I get to like hide and camouflage up against the wall and go, whoa, like jump out and like trigger traps and giant boulders and stuff. I was thinking more like archaeologists to roll by now and then, hey, can we like take a look at this? and you're like, oh, okay. And they just kind of like, oh, okay. I'm in war paint. I'm like,

and then they run away. I, I, Chuck Spears at them. I am from Stanford. Run away. I have like a blow dart with like, murder rabbit. Yeah,

with like poison dart frog. Yeah. I think even if I could do that, I'd still go lighthouse. I'd still do. Yeah. It's so much aura, dude. Lighthouses are so much aura.

Lighthouses have literally infinite aura. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sorry, I'm finding the next question This always happens As I was saying, we got a question from Pretty special individual A couple special individuals this time around

One of them is from Grant Blatner Grant Blatner Nick's younger little brother I don't think I've ever met Grant Grant. Grant loves me bro Grant's a big fan of the show Shout out Grant He's an absolute dog, yeah

So he asks what is your go-to college meal And I'm gonna exempt Ohio turnpike Pop-Ox Yeah So other than Ohio turnpike Myo Turnpike Pop-Hy. What is the ambrosia of Hillsdale College? Like, what is it? Of campus or of the city?

Like city, I just, come on. You know, we're talking about it. There's, I mean, I think Hillsdale's kind of underrated. I might be in the minority here. I love Great Wall. Great Wall is amazing. I will, I refuse. I don't know if that's the Ambrosia, but I can't.

Ambrosia, the Great Wall. I think, yeah. I mean, see, I think Sog is actually. actually decent. Like, Saga's, like, I've never been to Saga and, like, not had a good meal. Yeah. Wait, to Saga? Yeah. I've been to Saga and had a bad meal. I've been, I've been there a couple times. They've gotten noticeably better every single year. Yes. Every year they've got, except the fact they don't do Poutine anymore. Where is the Poutine?

See, I feel like they didn't, I feel like the Putin wasn't amazing. I feel like that was one of the things that, there were like a couple things that were like lower rated on their menu that they cut out in order to make everything else better. And I feel like that was probably the right move. Like, they, when they did it with the tater tots, it wasn't good. They did it one time with like these like really soft fries. I kind of under, almost a little underdone fries. Oh my gosh. It was so good.

I like ate three bowls. They went with the big bowls. Big bowls. Not these little like ramekins they have today. These little ramekins that they have now. The glory of former saga. You know, I think Greywall goes up my list just because every time I go there, I have a whole experience.

It's like a whole story. I should never been to Greywall. What? And you're out here saying, it's bad? Dude, okay, so as a New Yorker, all of our best stuff is hole in the wall, like middle of the road safety rated food.

Yes, dude. And it always slaps, never, almost never. Gets you sick. That's fair. But that's in New York City, where there are Chinese people from China, not Hillsdale, Michigan. You haven't met the Great Wallstaff, bro.

Okay. They're all Chinese. Oh, really? Yeah. None of them are all on in the Mexican. No. No, they're all Chinese.

And I knew... Hispanic person will make you a diabolical. Yes. Pizza? I knew... I knew walking into Greatwell

the first time I was going in for a treat when I saw a little kid doing homework at the front desk. Yes. They had him in there? Oh, all right, we are. We're going.

All right, we're done. That's how you know. A daughter working the front desk. Yeah, and doing homework. Yes. Like, you know it's going to be gas. Yeah.

If that's the case. Yeah. I think that, I mean, like, the obvious Hillsdale, Ambrosia is Taco Bell. Yes. But also, like, Taco Bell. Like, Taco Bell gets so much attention because it's open so late.

Yeah. Like, I don't know. I never went to Taco Bell or I had gone, but I don't, I didn't go often before coming here. Yeah. And I don't think it's ever my first fast food choice, which is like maybe blast for me here at Hillsdale. Sure. But it's like, I just, I'm always happening hungry at 1.30 a.m. Yeah.

I see, I, I would love it if, like, KFC, big fan of them opening up. I love chicken. Although KFC's probably lower on the chicken rungs and the rungs of the rungs of the chicken ladder. Then Popeyes and Zaxis and Bojambles. Yeah. Still better than Kings. I like it guys. Better than Ken. No. I like it so much. I legitimately think that Kings is like bad except for the sauce. This is a horrible take. That's an awful take. That's the Keynes chicken is pretty good. Put it on the Dom take list.

Also, Jamie. You're missing the the Keynes prices are like glorious. That's fair. The Caniac combo? That's true. Come on, dude. And like Dave's, Dave's hot chicken. Fantastic, but it's $80 for his hot sandwich. What am I doing? $15 for two tenders. Like, dude. Take it alone. I cannot. Take a mortgage out. All right.

We have one more question. Let's hear it. And it's from Wyatt. Oh. Legendary Wyatt question. He says, would you rather be able to resurrect fish or be able to dry yourself with a towel instantly after you shower? So basically do not need a towel. Dry yourself instantly with a towel?

Instantly dry after a shower. Oh, so I just. And I don't need, I don't need a towel. No need for a towel. So is it only after a shower, or can it be like, I jump in a lake and I jump out and I'm dry? A shower. I mean, I would still do that. That, 100, like, I've never been in a situation where I've been able to resurrect a fish.

I think that drying off, even when the towel, there's still like some more drying has to be done after that. Yeah. Hair is still wet. Yeah. So, like, that could save you actual crazy time. Oh, 100%. However, you know how they have, like, beached whales that, like, explode? instead of that you can bring it to life

Yeah But is that like a fish Or is that a mammal That is a mammal That's a mannob That's a mann't know I mean unless you ask Melville Melville tell you it's a fish

That's true And you know It's unclear whether or not In the story of Jonah It's a fish or if it's a whale They're different Whale Whales don't live in the Mediterranean

Whales don't live in the Mediterranean I'll just tell you that much There's never been a whale In the Mediterranean So you think we could go find him and ask him. How was it? What did Jonah taste like?

If we had the fish necromancy. That's right. We can ask him. Yeah, yeah. You know, there's only, there's one new one question I'm asking. Okay. Is the episode over?

And the answer, unfortunately? Yes. Is it actually? Yeah, we have to go. What? Yeah. Are we being forced out? Yes.

Wow. Okay. Well, thank you so much, Dom, for coming on the show. I really appreciate it. Nate does not, though. He hates you. I don't. I want to keep going.

I promise. I promise. Now I'm interested to talk to you a little more of our church history. Yeah. I was actually some interesting stuff. I can see gaps in my own. Dom's Loki's. Dom's.

We all forget, bro. Dom, Dom, Don't know things. We didn't even get a shut up Dom on the show. Oh, come on. You can't be doing that.

He's our guest. He's our lovely guest. We'll be back next week with more only. More boys. And all the above. Ask your questions. Give some love to Dom. In the chat.

In the chat. We have a chat. Chat. Is this real? Is this real chat? Is this real chat? Any final words? Hi.

Hi. Hello. You should all pray every day. That's very well. That's fantastic. Yeah. Paternos, too. And apparently eat more boc-changes. Yeah.

No, no. Eat. Chick-fil-A may be the chicken of the Lord, but the Ohio turnpike, that's where heaven is. We'll see y'all next week. Yep.