WRFH/Radio Free Hillsdale 101.7 FM - The Nickocracy | Boys Only #17

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

Nate and Storm flourish with Nick Rutkoski about the happenings of Niedfeldt, Ultimate Frisbee, and spice.

It's Boys Only Fall Break Edition. You might be home enjoying the cold weather. You might be... Not home. Not enjoying cold weather. You might be not enjoying anything. But you can enjoy us. We're back. I'm Storm Drexler.

I'm Nate Gallagher. And this is Boys Only. You know, Storm, that kind of felt like a bit of a rush job. Like, I feel like... That intro felt like lightning fast. Like, sometimes we do interviews and we drag them out, like, almost to the point of just... On seriousness. Well, we gotta keep attention spans.

The modern short attention span. Think you're short attention. Go on your phone right now. Go on your phone right now. Just start going on your scroll. Start scrolling as you're listening to us. Yeah, during the episodes. Start scrolling.

No, don't do that because we have we have very important opinions you must listen to. Yes, but first, guest. Guest. Hey, what's up guys? It's Nick. How you doing? I'm doing fantastic.

I'm flourishing. That's my classic answer. You kind of never talk to me if you hear that. Yeah. A little bit about myself. Yeah, who are you? I'm Needfelt, man. hopefully known for that a little bit. Need felt the best dorm on campus, unarguable. No other

opinion can be had validly. It's pretty fantastic. Also part of the Ultimate Frisbee team. That's pretty elite. Going to make nationals again this year. Wait, that's crazy work. Nationals? Tell us about that. Yeah. So last year, our club had been foreign for about three years and we just made nationals. It was kind of incredible. So we won. We got a regional bid. There were two regional bins kind of for the Midwest area we were part of. And then last year, we just got second place. and we got paid for by the college because it was a national competition. We got flown out to Washington State

where we stayed on the Frisbee budget in these hotels and we just played Frisbee for like three days. It was incredible. And then it was at no cost to myself. So I just stayed there for another like three days with some friends out in Oregon and as hiked mountains, explored caves

who was the most legendary trip. The only thing we had to pay for was like a $90 flight back. So shameless plug for Frisbee, it's fantastic. You can go to Oregon. You can go to Oregon. You're part of a legendary team. We're going to win more. That's good. And you guys are, you're already back in for another nationals? Or you're, you're like, confident you're going to? We're confident in our success. You know, we have a legacy to a poll now. Wow. How did this happen? I literally have, like, respectfully before last year I'd never heard we even had what team. Yeah, yeah. Just said that you made nationals. I mean, we've only like been around for three years and before that was a kind of like non-existent. So then you showed up and now you're carrying the team. We need felt man. Let's maybe not go that far. You know, we got, we got legends. We got Jake Hamilton. You know, the former captains, Gabe DeBosey.

Greg Marino, who's actually my roommate, crazy guy, crazy guy. So they're actually both professional Frisbee players. I didn't even know that was a thing until like last year. Like, what does it mean pro to compete pro? Yeah. That's a really good question. I think it might just all be made up. It's just like, I don't know, I feel like you're kind of larping as a professional athlete

whenever you play professional Frisbee. So it was so bad that it drove Gabe to become a Dominican. So that just kind of goes to show you, you know, how far this Larp can go. Yeah, the frisbee rabbit hole is deep. It really is, yeah. We can go on and on about this. It drove Gabe to become a Dominican? He's actually, he's going through Dominican Seminary right now,

and he was our captain and his professional athlete. So it's kind of crazy. See, when you said become a Dominican, I thought you meant like somebody from the Dominican Republic. He's like someone like trans racialized. Now one was going to be how on earth did that work? Yeah, yeah. Former Mexican here?

Reven to the seminary Radgett Ruther? Radical religious change because of this is what Ultimate Frisbee does. It really does. It really brings out the best and the strangers and people.

Yeah. What a red hot. I got to shut up. Wouldn't you guys like what's like it's a full team right? It's not like just a club. Yeah, we've got like a lot of people this year. So we've got like 35 guys on the team. We're co-ed, some guys and girls.

You know, got to be inclusive. Yeah. Not just the boys on this team. It's pretty fantastic. We got a lot of freshmen, and we only lost, like, three seniors. So we really, it's pretty much the same team as last. So I think we've got a lot of success in our future, and the practices are pretty awesome.

We have two of them per week, and it's just a great time all around. Is it like a co-ed league? It's not a co-ed league. Because I feel like you'd want to you. Which the team might think, yeah, the team is actually both guys and girls. I'm in practice. But we're playing against only guy teams. and we still make nationals

and we still beat them so the girls playing into guys the girls just like dominate it's actually kind of incredible like everybody playing against our girls like it's a dose of humility like they get skyed by these girls they get like it's actually like incredible

yeah well I've heard that there's like studies done about like colleges that are like only guys and only girls that and like there's something to the fact that people will perform better in sports and in academics when the other gender is present this might be true actually read something about this in like last year and it was we me and and caleb bludstrom were talking

about this last year like the sims and lunch table it sparked a whole conversation and and we like looked at a look at it into it a bunch and it was like there was a ton of studies in this like when there's other when there's people of the opposite gender present there's like an incentive to do better and like i think it brings out like the the competitive you know the testosterone spike i'm sure kind of occurs yeah you want everyone wants to impress the other gender the women get that too yeah their voices just deep in for like the next two hours hours and it's like it's incredible. Yeah. Isn't it just football but with a frisbee? It's like kind of like Frisbee soccer like got together and had a kid with like a like a flat ball instead of like a round

ball. That's kind of how it goes. It's kind of this weird sport. As you kind of cut like you would cut in soccer but once you catch the this you can't really run but the sort of end zones that you can score and like football. So it's just kind of this weird homogenation of things. I like it. I played a little bit in high school. It's really fun. I've only played in like Illinois inter-school gym class. Yeah, I'd never played before coming here. So it was a whole new thing for me. But it's kind of like one of the things

have been most happy and most fulfilled and joining, honestly. So it's just the team community is fantastic. It's just so much fun. And all the guys are- This is one of the best plugs I've heard. It really is, yeah. Out there with rugby. So like, when do you guys meet?

Like, plug it. Like, what's the- So, yeah, we play Wednesdays from four to six at the Hayden Park. Pull up. Yeah. And then we play Saturdays when rugby's not playing. So kind of de-shed out to rugby.

No offense to. them. We do kind of compete for play time sometimes, so we play Saturdays from 10 to 12. I wouldn't want to be one of, I wouldn't want to compete with those rugby guys are kind of big. We had some of in our show substantially bigger than the Frisbee people. Big large dudes. I'm like, yeah.

Well, we have questions aside from all the ones that I have about ultimate Frisbee. Which are numerous now. Like a thousand. Open a whole new can of worms. Yeah. We're going to close that can of worms. Put that on the side. We don't want much of a diet of worms here. Of course not. Oh, Staten Christian.

Christian. Did he pay you for that? No. Okay. He doesn't pay us for anything. We owe a lot of money to a lot of people, but no one gives us. He came on our show, and then we lost royalty rights. Like, we had to pay a ton of money to Maroon 5 to Creed.

Yeah, it was a whole bunch of. He just kept having Theta guys on. They just kept referencing the same way. Riffing and singing songs, and it's like, we can't do that. We can't be singing songs about the Southways. Yeah. All right. Let's get a question.

Zana asks. Would you consider yourself the coolest Nick? Because there's a lot of Nicks. I know at least another Nick. We had another Nick. No, actually, this is an interesting subject matter. The Nicks have actually all gathered together. We have secret meetings.

And we're called the Nickocracy. And we are taking over campus. There's Nick Bass. There's Nick Blatner. There's myself. And pretty much every Nick is in the fold of it, honestly. So I really don't want to cause division within the NICocracy. you gotta have unification.

Unification. Unification. Unification. So I feel like I can't really put myself above the other names. Especially after Nick Bass's stunning performance in mock rock singing on that table. I mean, there's a lot of some highlight moments for Knicks throughout campus this year already. Yeah.

And you guys are pretty like spread amongst the different like culture. We have infiltrated almost every group on campus. And like all the levels of the high. hierarchy. Absolutely. We're taking over. Is there a professor, Nick? Because I don't, I know any. They're named Nicholas. There's a lot of, there's a lot of...

Yeah, there's a reason you didn't know about him. He's secret. Yeah. I thought so. I shouldn't know. Absolutely. Secret Nicks. Secret Nix. Secret society. What is this, man?

You just leaked it on the podcast. You did just leak it. By the way, I don't know if you know this, but we are on the internet right now. Dang it. I'm sorry, guys. Society link. Nope, it's actually all. joke.

It's not really. It's not real. In the description of this episode, actually, there's a link to join the The Nicocracy, the Nicocracy. The Nicocracy. Please be honest if your name is Nicholas. We have no way to vet you. Nope.

On the code system. That's my favorite thing ever. The Nicocracy. Another question was, are you flourishing? I want to talk about that also because that's your catch phrase. That's your catch phrase. Where did that come from? I was kind of aware of this when I,

When I came to campus, and I was like this freshman, this kind of dweeby freshman, didn't really find myself yet. And I was like introducing myself like some friends in Saga. They weren't friends yet. I actually didn't know who they were at all. And they're like, are you the guy that says you're flourishing? And I'm like, that's me. They're like, actually, we know nothing about you other than you say that word.

I'm like, I guess it's better be known for something than nothing. So I thought it was a net positive. But I was like kind of become my thing and I can't not say it. Did you or someone close to you have like a biology background? No, it's, I hate science. science is fake science is fake disperm Lewis Thune

2023 science is fake absolutely so this actually came from from a priest back home oh okay this person is like kind of legendary he just like water skis in his cassock he made this hockey rink outside of his church so that after mass he can play hockey with the altar servers

so like this kind of give you a taste this guy's legendary this guy's absolutely legendary yeah father Jarvis shameless plug for father Jarvis he's Jarvis Jarvis he's super cool Jarvis boot up the hockey rink And, uh, water skiing your casick right now. A load of confession while you're ready.

So then he always said like, I'm flourishing. He would like comment and do like announcements for like our Catholic school. And I said, like, I'm flourishing. Kind of was his calling card. But like nobody knows him down here. So I just, I shamelessly took it. Yes. It's kind of strange.

What is your life, man? I ask myself that question all the time. It's really strange. This is great because like sometimes I won't get to talk to these people much. Yeah. And then I'll come on here. And then I'll come on here. Hockey rink out back.

Yeah. hockey rink, yeah, my priest, who water skis in a cask. Shout out Father Jarvis. He's so cool. He's fantastic. Actually, yeah, he's, well, next week is booked,

but week after we'll have a father, Father Jarvis. That'd be an enjoyable conversation. From wherever Michigan. Driver City, dog. Come on. Big talk, Trevor City. It's so cool.

Best spot in the state, actually. That's awesome. Wait, where is that? Wait, wait, wait, do you do the hand thing? Of course I do the hand. Yeah, so I've been meeting Michigan, like more Michigan people. Yeah, yeah.

Mishanders. Michigananders and I've been like starting to learn the geography of the stage because I've lived here for two years now and I start to know city names but then I'm like where are you from Michigan yeah and they whip out the hand every time I mean they can't like people can't like see the hand because this is I mean I think there's audio right we're not like on video and the thumb is that little point you're at the top of the pinky that's kind of where Traverse City's at I've never been that far north in no I think the state gets better the further you go north which says something since we're at the bottom of the state I think to be selective with who you're would tell that to because we just are in Hillsdale. But it just does get, I promise, guys, it does get better. It gets better than normal. It does. It's shameless plug for Traverse City, too, just while we're on, shameless plugs. We're like right by the water.

It's a city, so you're not, like, isolated. Is that still like Michigan? Or is that? That's, that's like Michigan. Okay. Yeah, so we're right on the water. There's the sand dunes, sleeping bear sand dunes right by it. There's like these massive forests.

There's biking trails. There's mountains for skiing. You're close to the UP. It's just this fantastic place to live. So if you can, go to Traverse City. and come say hi to me. Yeah. So you're a fan of the UP.

I was actually about to ask it because you're sitting here. So this is another kind of embarrassing moment you're drenching up, so thanks for asking. Of course, that's my job. I've really not been to the UP much at all.

I think I've driven through the UP to get to like other states. So that's, I've never really just been there for the sake of the thing itself. So one of these days I want to go camping in the UP kind of want to check it out.

But like the times I've been there driving through or going to go over the bridge, it's always been delightful. So I want to kind of explore more of that the natural beauty. of things, you know? Go to Isle Royale.

Isle Royal National Park? It is, it's actually above the UP. That's what we clash. Technically owned, stop the storm. I'm sorry. Owned my Michigan, but technically national park. I only know because I really like national parks. I've heard pictured rocks is the place to go.

That's up pretty far north. It's like these really cool, like archies. And I guess they look like they're painted because they're called painted rocks. Oh, cool. But yeah. Is it like just the natural colors of the gradients of the stone? I'm also colorblind a little bit.

So I'm the worst person to ask about that question. A bit though, so like what in particular? I'm like color deficient. It's kind of a strange. Color definition. It's not the official. Not even good at being colorblind. Not the official definition.

But like red green, brown, kind of all the same thing. The blues and like, I don't know what indigo is. Kind of the same thing. They kind of all blend together. Yeah, so. Funny story. I was in my physics lab last week and the lab was all about the electromagnetic spectrum.

No, I did the same lab last year. And it was, okay, this is actually kind of a funny story. So me had to do the makeup life for like this spectroscopy. Is that what it's called? I hate science, I don't know what it's called. But it was like we're, like you said, this colored lines, right?

Yeah, the color lines. And I had to make this lab up so I had this other partner in mine. I'd know what to you this guy is. Still, I forgot his name. Shout out to whoever you are. Yeah. If you've remembered me.

Yeah. He's listening. He's like, oh, man. Yeah. So we were doing this lab together and I kind of tell what compound it was by the colored lines. But I'm like, hey, dude,

just letting you know, I'm kind of colorblind. so I'm not going to be a good partner. He's like, actually, I'm also colorblind. It was insane. My, yeah, that was like my lab partner in that lab was colorblind. He just let me do the whole thing. I was like, yeah, I'm three for three with random colorblind people this week.

That's why I was hoping that he could just do the whole thing for me because I hate labs. I hate science. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we talked to like the TA, like the lab assistant and we're like, actually, we're both colorblind. He's like, oh my gosh. I'll just tell you the answers. I'm sorry for you guys.

So we just kind of got all the answers And we just left really early, so It's kind of good to... Yeah. I'm not saying you should just say that When you're in lab to get out of spectroscopy, but it does work as an excuse if you really need to. You should remove the cones from your eyes, though,

so you can no longer see color. Yeah, yeah. That Nick, yes, good idea. Yes. Live the world in Black. I feel like you get out of a lot of labs just being like, I'm blind. I'm half blind, and they've never helped me even once.

Half blind? Yeah. What's that even mean? So I have... mostly no vision in one of my eyes. But the other ones completely fine. I've known you for two and a half years and I've never done this.

Amblyopia, that's what it's called. Amplia. You just make that word up? Nope. That's a delightful word to say. Can you say that again? Ambleopia. My gosh.

That is a delightful word. I like that a lot too. It's technically a lazy eye. Yep. It's technically a lazy eye, but I have it so it just like it tracks with the other one is fine. Okay.

But you, like what does it look like? Like, what are you? It's just really blurry. I also have no depth perception. Oh, really? Really? Wow. Non-lens correctable? It's great. Non-lens corrective. My brain just doesn't fire.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we already kind of know that, but thank you. You, yeah. This is all water on the rid of information. You guys know my brain doesn't fire. Yeah, I can't drive without corrective lenses. I work on. I forgot that you are completely blind. And Nick, you too. I'm so blind. I'm legally blind. I would like not have been naturally selected for back in the day. My Jesus would have died out. All three of us, I think, would have died out.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're half blind. That's worse than us. I can see. Completely fine. Me too. No, I don't need glasses to see. Oh, okay, okay.

Maybe you would have lived long. My other one's completely fine. Like 100% regular. That's crazy. Regular. Regular. Regula. Congratulations.

Thanks for making us both feel bad. Yeah, yeah. All her eye deficiencies and we're just kind of bonding, trauma bonding. Your color deficient. Color deficient. I have color deficiency. Caesar. A Cesar.

I love Caesar. What made you choose Hillsdale? Let me choose Hillsdale? Instead of, you know, Traverse City University or wherever you got up there. Yeah, now. G. No. That's actually...

C.C.U. is a whole different. That's a real place, actually. A whole different thing, actually. Whole other, whole other, whole other, like, sports. Yeah, not even the same sports. It's like this whole other, like, genre. Not even the same sport, really. Why don't I even come to Hillsdale?

I kind of, like, wonder this, actually. I feel like it was, like, it seemed like a natural improv call. Wait. It seemed like the right thing you do. Improve? Improving life every single day. This is what we do. And I think for some reason, I just felt that it was right.

And I fully send it. And then I came here. I'm like, I'm so glad that I came here. But yeah, I mean, it's kind of... But leading up to it, you're just like, you know what? Sounds right. For the bit. There wasn't much...

For the bit. It wasn't there wasn't much thought into it. I had heard great things about it. I had heard of some people that had been here. I'd visited. I'd gotten some pretty good scholarship. So it seemed like a great fit. I love like the values and the culture.

And I'm kind of, I'm nerd. So, straight. up. It's probably obvious, but so I love all the old stuff, and I took Latin in high school, you know. Oh yeah, we were in the same Latin class for two semesters. It was fantastic. It was so much fun. Yeah, we made it all the way through.

I went on and did Latin 320 and it was... No, we were also in that class together. Oh, we were doing it for fall semesters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My goodness. You should get Greco-Roman together, so you guys have five straight... I've not done it yet, no. I'm doing it in the spring. Hey, I'm not doing the spring too. We just get the whole minor together. Take it with Dr. Weir, Dr. Weir is fantastic. I have doctor weird right now for Latin 321.

321. Yeah, he's, I kept on going. It's the stupid hills though foul. So, you know, keep doing it for personal edification. It's just, I bought into the myth. I will not say that I'm regretting it. I did this take an exam today. Just get the major at this point, dude.

No, absolutely not. I think, is it a minor now, right? I need to get Greca Roman to get the minor, but other than that, I have all the language I need. Is the major that much bigger? It's just like, all these, like, weird historical classes. I just, like, kind of, I mean, okay, here, here's my, here's my thing. So the only reason I'm continuing is because, like, I've spent two years

learning a language. That's, that's pretty awesome. And it's kind of be ashamed about it as went and it's like forgot everything. Like, I feel like learning a language is kind of like the special, like, I don't know, it's like the special process, like being involved with the whole other culture that I feel like I want to like keep on valuing and holding onto. Like, I'm a philosophy major too. So it could be like useful for kind of with that degree as well. So I don't know, that's why I bought of the myth and kept on going with it, but this semester might be changing my mind. Yep, that was the last semester for me.

Yeah, yeah. I was like, all right, this is the last one. I gotta get out of here. I thought that I would be able to get the Latin minor, but it turns out that if you place out of any of the, like, 101 or 102, you... It's way harder to give it. It doesn't, it didn't count. Like, it doesn't count for you having done that.

They totally screw you off because then you've got to take, you still gotta take the four classes, but they just happen to be four like two tiers higher of hardness. Yeah. I mean, Storm we're going through like 101. Oh, it was light work. I did 101, 101, 102, 2, 201 and then you're taken like, you know, 350 or 3701 and you're like, okay, that's not what I signed up for. And they're just

saucing you up, bro. Yeah, it's insane. I'm going to flip myself over and put some seasoning on the other side. I'm cooked. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. It's just game over for me. Absolutely. So philosophy, do you, do you want to get paid ever for anything? No, I think I joke that I'm going to be professionally homeless and this is, this is my, this is my vision.

So, okay, this is, this is, It's kind of an obscure reference. Professionally homeless. Yes. So this is kind of the story for inspiration behind the professional homeless thing was my dad's kung fu like sensei was also a

Walmart manager and he was a philosophy major. Wow. So that was kind of the first inspiration for why I wanted to go on this path. And then the second thing... Does he want to manage Walmarts or get a blackball? No, the professional kind of homeless thing. Oh.

Did your dad kung fu? My dad does know kung fu, yeah. So like I don't know kung fu. who just kind of practices on me when I get home is like to stand there. Then I'm just like practice like crossing towns on you. I'm like, okay, dad, I'll just, I'll take it. Eight years old.

Dad's going to take you in the head. Here's the thing about getting old, right? You don't get old and stop playing. You stop playing and get old. My dad has never stopped playing. And that man is a great way to put it. Yeah. Has a great vitality.

I aspire after that vitality. That's fantastic. Yeah. But about professional homelessness, this is important to me. So have you guys seen Charlie Bound Christmas? Yes, of course. So you know, like Lucy's, like, psychiatric stand? Yeah, a nickel for a nickel, yeah, yeah.

For like kind of made up advice. Yeah. So that's my dream is I'll be like on the side of the road in a hut at like a stoplight. And then you'll stop. And you're just sitting at this light for eons because our society is degrading. And you're like, what am I going to do? Listen to music. But no, you rolled on the window and there's like the shack there.

And you're like, what in the world's going on with the shack? And then I poke my head out. Your nickel nick. Yeah, nickel Nick. Absolutely. And I asked for nickel, and I just kind of philosophize for them. That's kind of good.

That's my vision. I think you should just be Diogenes. I don't know about Diogenes. I think of a little of a barreles type of guy. Copern Niccus. I think there's a lot of puns there. Okay. Okay, here's that kind of weird story.

Fade that. So do you guys know Nico? You guys know Niko? Yeah, yeah. You know Casey Goudette? Yeah. Vaguely. Okay, yeah.

So we are all three need-felt philosophy. and we made this group trap. You said, you know the Nicomachian ethics? Yeah. This is kind of showing the depth of our nerddom. We named our group chat that the Nico Nick Casey ethics. And that might be the name I'm most proud of that's pretty good all my life. That's an amalgamation and a half.

It really was an amalgamation. I love that word too. That's fantastic. We're just, this is just a hodgepodge, man. Just a hodgepodge, yeah. We're really getting a lot of great words. Get great verbiage today.

Verbiage. Yeah, yeah, truly, truly. Yeah, we're expats. We are. Absolutely. Yeah. Great. Tough act to follow is that.

Tough act to follow. All right. Just destroy that box of tissues while we're here. I'm just sort of the tissues. This is terrible. That whole box. Yeah, don't even know when you open anyone and they're like 14 come out. I don't need all these.

It's like, yeah. It's like, yeah. So we're going to be really quiet. So Nick does this weird, like, awkward way of like, he's going to try to extremely quietly flow with stuff. I'm trying not to give everybody the sound effects. Yeah, so yeah,

we've had guests that just slurp drinks into the mic. And we're like, oh, are they animals? Stop. What are they doing? Yeah, it's a madhouse in here sometimes.

He was a dog. He's a dog. I was not an animal, though. Although you, we have some friends here who like, sometimes I'm eating like dinner with that in Saga. And I'm like, and I'm like,

who raised you? Like these people are eating with their mouth open. These people are like just talking with their food. That annoys me so much. It annoys me so much, too. It's so annoying. Because my mama, when we were a little, like, smackless, she's like, oh, eat that mouth open, you bam.

Yep. You get, like, cattle prod. You get, like, catar product. If you're doing, like, stop eating like an animal. Can you show with a 12? Like, an animal. That's why I had this cattle prod. And she'd make us, like, some of these people I've had as roommates.

Definitely not my roommate last year. Just stuff over all over the floor everywhere. I'm like, yeah. What are we doing? I can't walk anyway. It's going to keep coming at him, man. This is like, we're going to have him on the show soon and he can defend himself. I gotta talk to him about this, man.

This is not nice. It was just always just like the piles of stuff everywhere. I'd like wade through my own room. I get it. I'm sorry. Two years running. I have this. I have this problem.

See, I feel like so I was really, so speaking of kind of call back to Frisbee. So Greg Marino was this senior and I was a sophomore. And we just ended up brooming together. It was very strange. It's a whole other. It was an eclectic. It was an eclectic kind of amalgamation, kind of smash out.

Hodgepodge. Hodgepodge. You know, yeah. It was very strange. A bit of a conglomerate. A conglomeration. there we go. And I love this so much, man.

Come on so many words. It's like writing a paper right now. They're like, God, like that one. Yeah, yeah. We're just a, we're a fessing for quotes. Yeah, absolutely. They're like, they're in the library. They're like, I could listen to like, you know,

Gregorian Chance on my air pause to kind of focus or could listen to the boys. Yes. This boys chat. This is a hero's awesome words. Sending them four, blank. Yeah. So I was reading with Greg and I felt like the clean one because he was just like the slob, ate with his mouth open, you know, clothes everywhere.

It actually was getting so bad that. when we realized that we had someone else's like shirt in our room, like someone like the laundry got mixed up. Who is this? It's like, we didn't know who it was actually, but we just kept on like silently passing it to the other person's space. Because you thought it was the other person's. Yeah, but then eventually like when they kept on passing it back and forth and putting weird locations, like we realized like, oh, this is not the other person's shirt, but like I'll put it in your drawer. I'll put it in your pillow case. You know, we just kept on passing around. Like, that's just how bad it was. But now this year, I mean with Caleb Estella and now I feel like the sloppy one. I feel like

I'm the mess. Yeah. But he's too nice to say anything. thing. So I got to be better. Me and my current roommate, Colt Himmler, shout out, another shout out. Great guy. My former roommate. My ex. Is that kind of awkward for you guys?

Not really. Okay. Cole broke up with me. It was pretty amicable. Yeah, he wanted to do it anymore. But he's fine because we came to an agreement quick. Like, he leaves stuff out on the floor, but like, he doesn't mind that I have to pick it up and throw it away.

Or like throw it away. Or like throwing his laundry bin. Like, I will like clean up the room every time I'll like come through. And he's just like, cool. I think he, he's just like, he's just like, he's just. convinced you to be his cleaning lady. That's what I'm kind of gathering for that. Well, it's not bad enough and it's never, it's also not like gross. I think it's gross. There's like a difference to like disgusting. Yeah. But it seems like clutter. But it seems like you're happy to like put

away his clothes for him. I, I, I, I, like, made you become his like, he's pavloat. Like house clear. He's pavloving. But I saw you and you, you, Nate and then Cole's room last year. And I was like, it was always, no, it was always either like just papers or it was like clean, It was never grossness. It was never like... Things in places where they should be. Clean clothes are kind of everywhere, and I might have some dirty dishes, you know,

things like that. But nothing too much. Either here or other. Nah. Mug that has just never been clean for like six days. Yeah, I mean, honestly. Got the coffee rizzles.

The dubious mug. Yeah. Ecclectic. The esoteric mug. The esoteric ancient mug. Okay, okay, if you want... Okay. You want some fun wordplay.

Yeah. I'm kind of arrogant about how awesome this kind of like wordplay came to me. So I had to ask friend for like my coffee mug back, but instead of being like a not autistic normal person, I was like, hey, could you give me my portal for my portable, potable, pourable, porridge? Whoa.

So portable, potable, pourable. What is potable? It means like drinkable. Okay. Yeah. Drinkable, drunkable, drinkable, drinkable, imbibable. That's an excreble. That's a synonym with potable.

An extroble. It is a synonym. That's a little Latin root there, too. You know, Bebo to drink. Bebo, yeah, yeah. You can't get it out of you. You're in the culture now. Basically,

classics major, I'm sorry. No, anything but that. Republic comes from Reis Publican. That's all I remember. All right,

save us. We have a double question. Two people ask the same question. Run it. Who are these people? I want to know who's asking these questions. Zana and Holly. Oh my gosh.

Of course. Zana has been just lighting it up recently. Sheem done firing. She's like Elijah. Yeah. Normally Elijah Gave. 12 questions from Elijah Guevara, like machine gun riddled

the, uh, lights this up. And they're both, they're both about your, your sort of nickname of baby Nick. Baby Nick. So this, this does come back to the whole Nick kind of framework. So if anybody has met Nick Blatner, he's an enormous guy.

He's on the podcast. Certified giant. Okay, yeah. I need to listen to this then. Okay. I'm a big fan of of Nick. I call him, my nickname for him is kind of embarrassing for him, but I call him. him. Blattywack. Oh, that's so good. Yeah, that's in the rotation.

Everybody listening to this will know that he is bladdywack and we'll call him as such, I hope. It's in the rotation. I hope he's going to come to me and be like, Nick, what have you done? Rewened everything. I've ruined your life for you. We will not be able to get a job. Like, this is, this is the end of it. So, so that's what I hope from that actually.

Oh, way, are you blottywack? Are you the blottywack guy? You're not a good fit for this job. Yeah. So then when I came to Hillsdale, like, I think I've some maturing since I came as a freshman. I was like, I was a petite guy. Like, I was quite minute. And, and I was just very small. So I was called baby nick because of my, like that kind of size comparison, but also because I did this look infantile. So I think I've still kind of got a little bit beyond that. But, uh, but like the nickname just stuck around, you know? I was starting because you kind of have like a baby face. Do I have a baby face? A little bit.

Not anymore. No. Definitely freshman year, I could see. I don't know. I think when you're wearing your glasses, you kind of look like you have very large eyes. I think this is junior, you're big nick now. Big, big dog. So, okay, this is a question that I've, I've been wrestling with for a long time. So when I was in high school, or middle school or high school, actually both of those, my, I was nicknamed the koala because without my glasses on apparently I looked like a koala. Do you think this is true?

Not really. I don't know. The nicknames kind of like brought that story out. I couldn't see it without hearing it. Okay. And you say it, I'm like, I could try to put it together. but I don't see it off the real. I mean, I don't think I'm too like marsupial-esque.

So, yeah. Do you like always sleep after you eat? No. If I take food and move it to a slightly different location, will you no longer be able to recognize that as food? If it's saga, it might already be unrecognizable. Eucalyptus leaves. That's a fact about koalz.

If you take the leaf that they eat off of the tree and put it in it in a they will not eat it. My gosh. They are the dumbest. They are the animals. Animal is there is the stupidest future. Do you know why they're so sleepy? Because this is...

It's poisonous. So like their body needs to... So they're eating poisonous things. So that's why their bodies are so tired and like move so slowly because they're fighting off this toxin 24-7. So that's why they're so sluggish. Can they eat anything else?

No. They only... And they only eat it from like the region where they are born. Interesting. It's the same plant. So you can't bring them to like other places. But this is like what coffee's like, right? Because depending on your...

coffee like chili as well chili oak i didn't know that chili is a poison like technically capsaicin is like meant to deter eating i know oh yeah well i don't know if that's a poison i'm going to b-dubs tonight i'll be getting some of the blazing wings because i have to because of who i'm with

with casey goddette actually and his fiance which would be kind of cool uh but um but like i can understand why is a deterrent that thing is like it's a blazers yeah it's disgusting yeah if i don't want to eat that or hot ones training yeah that's coming up this next oh yeah y'all do the hot ones That was the most fun event

Of the last semester Thank you so much Yeah it was a blast So it was so awesome So I think I'll be doing the interview this year And it's gonna be Challenging Okay

Do you know who's hard You have people lined up or We have some people lined up But I can't really review that For legal reasons That's in the spring right It is in the spring Okay well keep a look out for a needful hot ones

That was so much fun last year Yeah you see me suffer It's gonna be fantastic It really is like Hell is in your mouth Like Dante's Inferno's just like kind of hanging out. It's painous. It's disgusting. Isn't it capsaicin?

Capsacin. Capsacin? You're thinking of ryan. Ryerson. There's another poison that's like that. That's the chemical that is the spice chemical from like the peppers and stuff. And then there's menthol, which is the cool chemical. And I learned this, a friend of mine did this. They said, all right, we have to try, right? Do they counter each other? I was going to say both at once. They do not. You just get double-barren.

You want to know what hellfire tastes like? You drink menthol and caps a sacer. Yes. Elfa. I'm not going to lie like I actually kind of want to try that. No, sure. I'd run it. I would do what would like mild.

Like I would have like a piece of gum and then like a hot like a probably just a like a jalapeno or something. Okay. I think he went with like ghost pepper sauce. Oh, okay. And no, no holes like. Yeah, no. Just straight murder in his mouth. No, this is fair.

It hurt. It does hurt. Accanine. Oloaflice cream. We should do a boy's only hot ones. That's just hot ones. at that point. Because it's a podcast.

We could do like a training session for the actual hot ones like the week before. Yeah. Or like we just kind of all get back together and just eat like through the spice. Like eat through the hot sauce. We'll let Nick back on. Why not? I could be that. I have tried the hot ones sauces from 2020.

Yeah. The 2023 rotation and it was brutal. Like we went. The bomb is just why does that exist? Yeah. It just explodes you. We each had different reactions too because people will have different reactions of spice. And it was the four of us being three friends back home.

home. This one friend was like, I can't handle spice. And he was like the whole day he didn't want to do it. He was the least affected by the most spicy ones. He was like, oh, say too bad. The rest of us were like on the ground crying. I had like a stomach ache the next morning just because like my body was like, you should not have done that. Yeah. There are some consequences felt throughout the members of the body once you eat. Yes. Like this is something I don't understand. I don't know. Like, I think it's a, it's a bit of a problem like the male culture is like, oh, you can't handle spicy. Like you don't like spicy food thing. Because like for my, for me, it's like I don't, it's not that I don't like spicy food. is that I don't like just eating just vinegar and pain.

Like, have you ever eaten Asian spicy food? Oh, it's bad. It's just so good. No, it's good. They incorporate into like the, not really wasabi. That's, I don't consider it was spicy.

Yeah. It's like, it's different. It's like a zingy though. It's its own thing. It's its own thing. Okay, yeah. Because it doesn't go, like, it's not a throat spicy.

Do you probably wasabi almonds? It like, it like hits you in your nose. Oh. It clears your sinuses. I love it. So I found this fact out recently. from a friend back home that the reason that they have spices and food

is because like kind of in cultures things like that like it would be so... Because they come in the hot places if you have like meat it easily like quickly rots and gets bad so to like preserve it

and then like make it more like taste better so you can like eat it they just would like put all these spices on it so... It's loaded up. Kind of interesting so... That's so cool. No wonder Britain has just you know

slab of meat plate beans. It's like you know when in doubt just boil everything and ruin it. I hate that. It is disgusting.

Sending is not doing any favors. That's my two sides. It's like I have the Irish side of me. And it's like, man, just awful. It's boiled everything. And I got the Italian side. It's like, mm. Mama Mia.

Yeah. Goodness. But every day for St. Patty's Day, my Italian grandma will attempt to make Irish food. It's, it's... Why doesn't she just stick to what she knows? Sounds like a nassette. Well, she's trying to be like, you know, my...

She's like, oh, well, your father. She's like being like ecumenical. Oh, well, you're... father. Okay, she's not her family. She says, oh, babasito. She like grabs your cheek. Does you, do you, any of your grandparents

grab your cheeks? She's not a cheek grab. I feel like that's like a violation of my like I think so too. I've had someone else's grandparent try to do that to me. And you beat them. You attack that person. You attack their grand. Did I have had parents. They're lunged up. I said, no.

Does Forrest fed her spicy food? Don't touch my cheek. I'm out of questions. But I mean, We can just talk about things. We just talk about like life. Yeah. What's your like favorite part about like,

because we're a Simpson, you're Needfield. Yeah. Like we're the two real like big, we're the big dorms. I mean, I think, it can be debated who the best guys' dorm is,

but I think the two best guys' dorms cannot be debated. Yeah. I think there's, number one Simpson, number two, needful. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. We can take a vote. We'll take a vote of the room. The majority of us. Majority wins. Majority wins. Dang it. This isn't rigged. But I agree that, obviously.

The top two is undisputed. I agree. I agree. I think we're pretty fantastic. I think Needfeld actually is kind of going through, I feel like it's been cooking this year. Yeah, you guys have been doing a lot of good stuff. Yeah, I just been really happy with how it's all going. Like David Gregory, fantastic house director. We've got a stacked R-A team.

Like, and like all of our freshmen, 100% participation in the homecoming stuff, they're just like super invested in like their own like kind of strange ways. times, but it's just a really this awesome kind of band of brothers, you know? It's just, I don't know. Like, Need Philips just like looking up this year. We're like full setting for all of our events. Every single night, the lobby

is full of people just watch explorers, playing cards. The community's really good. Coofing off, cooking. Trying to cook. Trying to cook. Burning everything. Yes. Another fire alarm goes off. Yeah, yeah. We had a Mac mixer in the, they literally brought the fire. The firearm went off.

Oh, my. They brought the fire. So maybe they kind of did that intentionally because they'd know, none of the want to go to the mixer, but if they have the fire alarms go off, they'd all have to go outside. Yeah. It was Loki full. It was outside. It was fantastic. We actually had a, this is kind of strange, we had that Kappa mixer last week.

I heard about this. You hear about this? That was, it was a very peculiar event. Where was it? It was at, you know, Maggie McWenney, I don't know if you know her. It was at her, like, off-campus house on like, at the street next, I forget it was called the street next to Manning. It's a very strange spot to, like, invite needful guys to.

Yeah. But it was like, you all pulled up. Yeah. I was worried, like, I was going to be the only one there because I was setting it up on the needful side. I was like, none of our guys are going to go. But we literally had dozens and dozens of our guys pull up. And it was like actually incredible.

So. Good time. Yeah, it was actually such a fun time. It was really, very strange actually. Yeah. So we have a weird like history with Kappa. You're across the street though, right? So we're neighbors.

All sort of. Whitley's closest. Yeah. And I guess the reason for this. make sure the legend goes is that you know, it's heard about that, that polar vortex that happened, like, the year before we came on campus. Oh, yes, when all the lights

were, all the power came out. So, Capo, like, they just got shut down. They just got absolutely nerved, but Needfield, like, had water and things like that, so, like, hey, can't be, like, come and, like, get, like, shower, like, use water. Like, kind of a weird request, but, like, reasonable, obviously. So they, they came over, and it's, like, I had a party in Needfoot with us.

That's just kind of, like, the history behind this, and then every year we have a tradition of, So we have a need miss, which we have about Olds over. Needness? I think you could do a little better with the market. I'm sorry, guys. Is that Christmas based?

Yeah, how'd you put that together? There's got to be something better. I'm sorry. We can maybe bring this from that a little bit after, but we have Olds over. And we like make cookies and we kind of decorate them together. We kind of go through them and decorate the doors. We kind of decorate the door for Christmas. Yeah.

And then a tradition goes for the past two years, we've been wrapping up people, or a chosen person, and putting them on Kappa's front door. But they're like wrapped in duct tape and tissue paper. and they're really cute all wrapped up, but we just put them on the porch, ring the bell, run back to Neinfeld and count how long it takes for them to get back. So I think they actually really kind of appreciate that gift. So we'll keep the tradition rolling.

Put a freshman on the door. So this is funny. So when we were doing our freshman programming, before classes begin, we kind of like... Programming? Programming? We sent it on the chair. So when we were doing our freshman hazing and brainwashing,

Yeah, what? We like ask them that the classic question is like, you know, what are two words for why you're here and then kind of our icebrokers or if you had to choose to have one thing that could get out of your belly button for the rest of your life. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. What would it be?

Milk. I actually, I said core powers from last year of the 42 gram core powers like that. Just the liquid. Yeah, just the liquid. Not the actual bottles, that sounds unpleasant. But then one of our freshmen said his two worth why is here, people say like the scholarship money, the liberal arts, these guys kind of referencing all the awesome people.

He said sorority girls. So he's already been nominated as our like offering to Kappa. Burnt offering. So yeah, so stay tuned about that. It's going to be fantastic. So that's kind of where we're at right now. And he felt just like as a whole, you know, I think looking up this year,

we're going to keep on dominating, you know, pretty happy with how homecoming went. Yeah, so are we. Yeah. Good job, Ballard. Good job all around. Okay, guys. But yeah, it was the first time.

You're the worst. You're trying to make it all about yourself, Nate. I'm sure when you had Jonathan Williams on, Simpson didn't get glazed at all or anything, and you're trying to take more of that here. Guys. My goodness. You beat us freshman year. It was a good job all around.

In Rock. One of these years, guys. One of these years. One of these years. I don't believe in you guys. Eventually. It was hopefully not in our time because we don't plan on losing much. If it's in my time, you will be losing.

You're gonna have to take a fifth year, then, Nick. We'll see, we'll see, we'll see. The showdown is just gonna get more and more insane. It really is. It's the intensity, like, you know, it's insane. But me and David didn't ever choreographed to mock rock before. So it was like the first time we'd done this before. So I was pretty happy with how it turned out all things considering.

Yeah, this is a great time. Like, all the goals of homecoming were accomplished before we ever performed. Like, you know, I mean, you get involved in the competition. It gets pretty fiery as it should, right? But the reason for all of the homecoming stuff is to really kind of bond your guys like doing hard things together. Some of them not done hard things before.

Which is like, that's kind of the dean kind of messaging getting through a little bit. But they just like genuinely like have like not mowed their lawns before. You know who you are. You're listening to this. You know who you are. You've not mowed your lawn before. Insane people.

So they seem like kind of like kind of bond of like doing challenging things. And like homecoming just kind of provides that in a pretty real way. Homecoming does that for a lot of campus. It does. It just all together. It's really awesome.

Like the grind is just real and it really put a lot of our guys together. So I'm glad it happened earlier this year. But we didn't like, you know, the risk is we kind of like lose freshmen. Like they kind of get involved in other spots on campus, which is great. But they're never like around the dorm. Because it happened. I mean, it's natural, right? But because it happened like weeks earlier than last year, I think we kind of were able to like forestall kind of those people dropping off.

So now I'm really happy about that. I agree. Good job, SB. Yeah. Shout out to the only. They killed it. yeah i i hear from my

sab friends that they're like in shambles right now but hopefully they'll be what's wrong with sq well there was the ato ban oh but like that's not we shouldn't talk much about we don't also have to we don't say much about it but give our opinions on it but it's just funny that that happened and now like sab has like

well there's like the distinction xab and then s ao it was like you know yes because sab people like are not making these calls like they're not making any of the decisions. It's like the higher up, you know. That's because SAO is all like faculty.

It's no students. It's like, yeah. So like I don't know, I don't really know who was on SAO, but it's not like, student activities organization. Student activities. So SAO oversees campus rec as well as. And SAB. Yeah.

Yeah. They're making, they're making the calls not like our peers on SAB. So we got, you got to protect them from the slander, you know. Yeah. And there's this one picture of a shark that just says the word clueless. next to it. What does that have to do with anything? I'm going to leave that in there.

My SAB friends, if you're listening, you know exactly what I mean when I say that. Clueless? Clueless. Ask an SAB member of a question. Ask any SAB member about that. I don't know. I have no idea.

What are you talking? I heard it on Boys Only podcast. Go ask your local SAB member anything. We just like could say anything here in it just I could be done. Especially since we're late in the episode. So like not everyone quite gets to hear.

If you did, shout out. If you did, respect. Run up to storm and slap him in the face. No! Yeah. Little Easter egg for the... This will actually happen.

I can already hear Liam Brennan sprinting up from his world. Do you know, like, how big is your listener based on? Not that large. Not that large. It's getting bigger. We love you guys so much. I was going to say, I wish there was more of you to love. It's like the same 20 people every single week and there's like, then there's like fluctuations randomly.

Okay, okay. I hope I got to spike this super famous. Nick Rukowski's on. When we got like New personal best. When we got like Dr. Church on last semester, there was a huge spike. The beginning of the show had a big spike.

Dr. Church is so cool. Yeah. So I have a cool story about Dr. Church too. So, you know, I'm a philosophy guys, I mentioned. So I had to take intro to logic my like second semester freshman year. Not like the, not the weird like logic rhetoric class,

but like actual like kind of predicate logic. Yeah, yeah. Whatever that means, right? But I went to the class and Dr. Church and I kind of talked to, you know, we kind of got closer. and it was like, remember that total solar eclipse we had? So we were like just outside of totality here in Hillsdale.

But he's like my in-laws are like an hour and a half away. My family's over there. If you just want to hop in the car after class, we'll just drive down, see my family, get in totality, then get like Vietnamese food in the way back. And I'm like, hell yeah. Of course. So it was like me, Casey, Joe Peshik, and like another person. Joe Peshik, is it a lead pole? Joe Pesciaglays never heard anybody.

God of church is so good about inviting students to things. He just generally cares about us. Yeah, that was a great time. He's like, guys, if you've any problems at all about anything, I struggle with like anxiety, just like talk to me. You don't ever to go for Easter, just come hang out. Exactly. Legend of the game. That's just like great Christian charity in action.

It's fantastic. His, what did we have? That was so good. His wife for Easter made something. Delicious. Yeah. Oh, bye-bye. It was a pop pie and it was like stupid good.

That sounds fantastic. So good. And his whole family's so sweet. Yes. We did like an egg hunt with them. They're all there. That's awesome. Littleest church was like hanging on to my leg.

He also was a giant fish tank. Yeah, he does. Which is fantastic. That is not a shark inside of it with the word curious. With the word clueless. I actually don't understand his reference. I'm just playing all with you. Thanks for playing.

Thanks, Storm. I'm just rug pulling my whole my whole bit here. That's kind of, you don't know what I'm talking about. That's kind of what I do. what I'm here for. Rug pull. Rug pull. Yeah, massive rug pull.

Yeah, or curtain call. Well, life is improv as Nick Rutkowski once said. Life is improv. It is. And speaking of improv. I'm sorry, guys. I can't just come out of the blue.

We have had guests come on here and just be like... Improft legend in the game. Aiden Christian came on and just like set us up in a scenario immediately and it was one of the most crazy things we've ever done. It was hilarious.

My mind does not work like that. I'm sorry. Yeah. Okay, so you guys are my... co-hosts on a podcast. And we are doing an outro. Okay. That's the scenario.

So, so guys, thanks for being on the boys-only podcast. We have to save for yourself. The name of the boys-only podcast. It's called boys-only. That's the name of it.

What do you have to sell? I'd say that I'm having a flourishing time. I hope these guys flourish and I hope you flourish too. Start flourishing wherever you are, whenever you are, wherever, whenever. Can't stop on stop. Amen.

You know,