WRFH/Radio Free Hillsdale 101.7 FM - The Social Mediators: The Freemasons

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

This week we discuss the Freemasons, from the lowest to the highest degree. Tune in to hear some of the conspiracies surrounding the organization and Garrett's artful way of shutting them down. There could still be some sketchy stuff. You'll have to tune in to find out.  

This is the social mediators on Radio Free Hillsdale 101.7 FM, where we examine the truth disparity between what's on social media and what's actually true. I'm Julian Parks. And I'm Garrett Gulesby. And today's episode is one that we should have thought of a long time ago, I feel like. I feel like this one should have been kind of obvious. It should have. But we're talking about the Freemasons. Mysterious. The Freemasons. The only thing I know about the Freemasons is that somewhere up in my family line, there's a great, great-grandfather who was one.

Oh, fantastic. Yeah. Lots of weird stuff. there, but I don't, this episode's not about my grandfather. Great, great, great, great, multiple greats. Maybe we'll do one. On my great, great-grandpa. Freemason relatives. Do you have any to share? Well, I actually, one of my professors told us, uh, like a year or two ago in class, he said, you know, my grandpa just recently passed away and he handed down to me his master mason books. He, he was, he was a 33rd degree mason, which means he'd been doing it for

decades, you know, um, and he gave this professor. of mine, his books. So in researching for this episode, I actually asked him if I could have them, and he's since gotten rid of them, which is so unfortunate, but I almost got my hands on some Master Mason texts. I think that would have been kind of sick, but maybe they are expensive. You can buy them, but incredibly expensive. I'm not particularly accessible. No. Okay, that's kind of how I feel about actually the information with this episode. I feel like if you're trying to do a surface level scroll or search, you're going to get a bunch of nonsense, which is what I have to share with everybody today. Tell us your nonsense.

And then if you are willing to do the work that Garrett did, maybe you'll get some better information, hopefully. Not a lot better. Okay, so we're done for. I hope no one comes after us for this. Do you know what I mean? I hope we don't get put on the list. I don't know.

It's, there's a situation. There's lots of masons in, like, the FBI and stuff. Oh, we're done for. Okay, it's fine. They definitely listen to this. A sacrifice I'm willing to make. So first thing I found was that there's more than, or maybe just about six million members of the Freemasons currently.

And what I found on social media, which was a little bit jarring, was that there's a lot of just regular, smegular guys that are Freemasons. Especially, they typically look pretty blue collar, at least by and large, I'm not really sure what the reason for that is. You can probably help me out.

But in every video I got to watch of people being like, I'm a Freemason, and here's what it's like. It's all just like, we are a system of morality where we are brothers and we're guided by brotherly love to be the best brothers we can be to our brothers.

So they say brothers a lot. Like a lot. And that's all they say. over and over and over again. And there's a little bit of like people being defensive and me like, we are not a satanic cult. We are not a religion. We are just a group of guys. And so that actually was mirrored on every social media site I found. I found two tweets right next to each other. One that just said, Freemasons are like if the Illuminati was just fellas having beers. And then the next one underneath it was the Freemasons are a domestic and foreign terrorist

organization. The members need to be classified and treated properly. So, There's a wide range of opinions, but none of them have any substance to them. None of them are like, I think this because, or I've heard this piece of evidence about them. It's all extremely like vague or no evidence whatsoever, which is really nice. Apparently they originated from an Aztec death cult. Oh. That's what I got to see. That's a fantastic piece of information.

It might not be true. It's not. Okay, awesome. I love that. But I did know that the founders, I knew this pre-social media, but the social media also wants everyone to know that the founders were Freemasons. That is mostly true. Well, I would love to hear the mostly part, actually.

But a big part of it is like they were deists, not Christians. They were in the occult. A lot of them, according to the social media, they all deal, dealt opium, which... The founding fathers? Yeah. Fantastic. Twitter said that, though. Thank you, Twitter.

I feel like I need to remind people who are tuning in right now. This is what social media says. He's not coming from me. A lot of talk of the like symbol, their big symbol being like, um, something Satan, but I don't really know. Like the eye, the all seeing eye. Yeah, I don't really understand what it is. Yeah, we'll talk about that. Is there a G in it?

What is the G? Oh, you're talking about the square and compass with the G in the middle? Yeah, yeah. There's so many symbols to, we could. Yes. That's a whole podcast unto itself. Fair enough. I know.

With the symbols, all I know is there's tons of videos of celebrities doing what looks like they could. be the symbols. But it's also kind of like one of them, it all kind of leads into Illuminati in my opinion, which is I don't really know how to distinguish the two. So if you have thoughts on distinguishing those, that would be really helpful to me. But if people make like a triangle with their hands,

people are like, oh, they're Freemasons and they're in the Illuminati. See, proof because they made a triangle. Or they covered one of their eyes or that sort of thing. I know that in terms of the system of morality, there's this idea that they call God the Grand Architect. And some people have, and I think they have a book that's called like Moral and dogma or something.

Yes, morals and dogma is one of their key texts. But the point is that they only invite people who are religious to be a part of the Freemasons. That is true, but it can be any religion. Okay, that's what I, what I saw was some tweets going back and forth. Some people saying that you had to be of Christian or Jewish faith in order to be invited, and some people saying you can be any faith. And then what happens is they call God the Grand Architect, and he becomes like kind of a universalist sort of thing.

Yeah, originally it was just Christians and Jews. Now it's... It can be Satan. You can be a Satanist and be a Freemason. Well, everyone thinks that if you are a Freemason, by default, you are a Satanist. Okay. Is it... This question you can answer later, but a lot of people were talking about the fact that the god of the Freemasons is neither good nor bad.

He's like a morally neutral being, which is weird. One thing I saw was that the G stands for G-Stan. I don't think that's true because that really makes zero sense to me, how they would be welcoming all faiths and then be like, but the G and our symbol is for narcissism. So help me out with that. And then of course, there's just a lot of different celebrity lore of like celebrities throwing up hand signs, kind of like I said, or doing humiliation rituals. Have you heard about that? I haven't heard of celebrity humiliation rituals. I think it's an Illuminati thing because the problem is that these hashtags don't distinguish the two. So people will hashtag a lot.

of videos and tweets hashtag Freemasons hashtag Aluminati. We'll talk about the difference. So it all gets lumped into this big group, but I think it's an Illuminati thing that gets lumped in with Freemasons, but the humiliation ritual is basically where celebrities have to do something horribly embarrassing and everybody watches and

it's so that they can prove their loyalty to Satan. That's what social media says. You mentioned the G in the symbol? It just stands for geometry because geometry is important. We'll talk about the history of Freemasons and kind of how to how they came about and it makes sense

once you get into the history. It's like a very normal. It's not a weird. That's great. Kind of the vibe I was picking up basically was that a bunch of these lower level masons because they do climb the ranks, they probably do just go eat pizza

and talk about how to be good brothers. I'm thinking probably the weird Luciferian stuff gets up to when you're, you know, high up in the ranks. But also there were quite a few tweets that were like, I'm high up in the ranks.

ranks and there's nothing weird going on, which I just don't believe them. I found a list of celebrities that were Freemasons. Winston Churchill was on there. Yes. Same with Mark Twain. And Colonel Sanders. No, he's real? Yes.

Colonel Sanders is a real person. What? Yeah. Oh, I don't know that. Harlan Sanders is his real name. Congrats to him. Yeah, but he was a Freemason. So is Ben Franklin.

Gerald Ford. Harry Houdini? Yes. Apparently Nelson Mandela. Is that true? I didn't know that one, but that makes sense, yeah. A lot of people that have been in power. A lot of the powerful are Freemasons.

So that's actually all the content I have. I know nothing about their beliefs nor their rituals. I know there are rituals. Just not what they are. For those of you who are just tuning in, this is the social mediators on Radio Free Hillsdale 101.1.7 FM. I'm Jillian. And I'm Garrett.

And we are talking about the Freemasons. Take it away. Well, I hate to... I don't think I'll be disappointing, but what I will not be able to give you is a detailed outline of exactly what they believe. Because it is like one of the best... Secrets. It's a huge organization, right? Six million people, like you said, and there's all these

offshoot organizations that come from Freemasonry, but their strict adherence to secrecy is actually, like, they've done a pretty good job at keeping, that the information is out there. You can get it. It was not, it's not readily accessible. Like I said, you can buy all the Freemason texts that explain to you what Freemasons believe, but I kid you not, there are hundreds of thousands of volumes written about Freemasonry and, like, symbolism in Freemasonry and their beliefs and everything. I watched an interview with a librarian in a Freemason library, and there were 250,000 volumes in that library that were all Freemason texts related. Yes, all written by Freemasons as well.

So there's a vast literature on this subject. But like I said, the books, unless you are a Freemason and have access to a library, they're very hard to come by. They're not printed widely. So let's just dive into the history a little bit because I think that will help us understand some of where we have. No, it originated in the

17th and 18th century pretty much in the British Isles and it was essentially just a like a trade guild, stone masons and those that built cathedrals, I don't know what their title is but people that built cathedrals, right?

They would gather together and they form these secret societies and kept it secret, mostly because they were trade secrets. They didn't want people that weren't part of their trade to learn their trade secrets and be able to rip them off and steal their jobs, right? So that's why it was secret to begin with, a pretty normal reason. We still do like labor unions now. It's kind of like that. But it got to be a little bit more of a club when cathedrals kind of stopped being built at a certain point in history. They're just weren't a lot being built. And so this group of guys, you know, I'm kind of picturing in my head. they're all going, well, we still want to hang out.

So, okay, we'll just keep doing it, you know. And then the advent of a Freemason Club, or Club is the wrong word, the Freemason fraternity organization kind of comes after, you know, cathedral start being built these people who are not Mason's in any way start to join this organization. And it really is all about fraternity and brotherhood. Everything that I found indicated as much. I will at the end talk about one fantastic interview that I listened to

from a Grand Master Mason who is as high as you can get, who has left the Masonic tradition, and in the interview kind of spills a lot of beans, but he says some crazy stuff, so we'll get into that in a minute. But for the most part, these chaps are all together for pretty good, like moral, high-minded reasons,

not for explicitly religious reasons. In fact, the Catholic Church banned Freemasonry for a time because it wasn't aligned with their, religion at all. It's not technically religious, actually. There are Christian Freemasons and Jewish Freemasons and Muslim Freemasons. I'm going to say Freemasons too many times and it's going to stop sounding like a word. But the first, what they call it, Grand Lodge, which is, it's also sometimes referred to as a temple, which is a little bit strange, but it is the place where Freemason meetings take place. The first Grand Lodge was founded in England in 1717. So just give you context about 300 years.

and they're all about self-improvement, whatever that means. Okay, I think the group decides. In, again, whenever I'm bringing information to you, what I'm trying to give you is not one perspective I heard, but kind of an average of a lot of different perspectives that I've heard. And the average that I've heard, like you, I think correctly intuitive, is that a lot of people in this organization are just like guys getting together,

trying to strive towards self-improvement, you know, in a pretty innocent way. Like, they go out to lunch, together. They, you know, do book studies. They, yeah, and all of the tradition, all of the rituals and rights and symbols and all of that is, in the words of one of the interviews that I listened to, from a master mason, so a guy who's in charge of a lodge, I think the one in D.C., so a big, you know, kind of a big deal in the Mason world, he wouldn't care if you knew the Freemason's secrets, but it's bound up in his honor not to tell you, right? So if you found out

by some other means, it's not like, oh, they have to kill you because you found out your secret. He didn't care. You know, it's part of his, you know, upholding his honor is keeping the secret. You know, not because it's some, ooh, big scary secret. Yeah. And I think that for the most part, that seems to be the case for most of what I read and listened to. But there's also, and this is where the Illuminati comes in. Okay, I was curious.

And where we get a little bit crazier than just the, like, guys having beer and pizza together. There's a lot of offshoot organizations from the Freemasons. the Illuminati are actually considered a subset of Freemasons. What? They're part, yeah, they're not separate. So the way that one particular guy characterized it is that there's kind of a pyramid of freemasonry in terms of like the size of the groups and also the mysteriousness of the rituals, I guess.

And the bottom is just typical freemasonry. Yeah, yeah. And then there's, like I said, there is all these offshoots. There's Scottish right freemasonry. There's Welsh right free Freemasonry. There's, uh, they call them, well, let me pull out the full name. They're just noticed the Shriners, but the full name is ancient Arabic order of the nobles of the mystic shrine. Oh.

Oh. I bet you can guess they're pretty high up on the pyramid. Yeah, probably. They get up to some crazy stuff. But the weird thing about the Shriners is that I'm sure you've heard of Shriners Hospital. Yeah. Right. They fund that.

Okay. Oh, I did know that. The Shriners are one of the wealthiest philanthropic organizations around. Uh, they donate. I think the number was something like three or four million bucks. a day to charitable organizations, a staggering number. And when you start to get to organizations like the Shriners, that's when some of the, and the Illuminati,

that's when like the weird stuff starts to get in. Is the Illuminati the top one? Satan is at the top, actually. Oh, no, that's horrible. Yeah, that's a good time to talk about the all-seeing eye business, the triangle eye, Illuminati thing. That is actually not a exclusively Masonic symbol. at the time of the founding of the Freemasons,

that symbol was just like a commonplace. It wasn't, yeah, anything special or particularly weird. Some people think it comes from an Egyptian symbol, the Eye of Ra, there's some speculation about whether that's actually the case. But wasn't a particularly devilish symbol and to this day is appropriated by many different groups,

perhaps some for devilish reasons and some for undevilish reasons. That's a little bit hard to say. True. So originally, it was, was all white men. Okay. Right.

And then only in pretty recent years, has a membership opened up to more than just that. Now there are freemasons of every race. And women are allowed to join a kind of Freemason adjacent organization, one of these offshoot organizations. They do the same kind of thing. Eastern Star is the one I believe you asked me about earlier. Yes. So that's the woman freemasons?

Yes. I kind of thought, but nobody was telling me. It's not big in the U.S. In fact, I'm not even sure that there is. any female Freemasonry in the U.S. It's big in England now. Oh, okay. The woman who said she was, one, did kind of look British.

Yes, so she probably was British, but it's a big deal in England now. And there's also all these organizations for, like, relatives, female relatives of Freemason. So, like, there is a group specifically for, if you are, like, the daughter of a grandmaster Freemason. Oh. That's its own, kind of own special club. But as I said, in terms of what they believe, sorry to disappoint, it's hard to tell. It's all about kind of self-improvement

and your own journey that is kind of spiritually linked, but not spiritual. I will tell you there was the one kind of glimpse under the veil that I had was that one news reporter was able to get invited to a meeting and got to witness a meeting. So he got to witness an initiation of some brand-new masons.

and one of the things they actually I don't think he was supposed to be videoing because the video quality was horrible and it was like taken from a weird angle but what you see in this video is the new initiate comes in blindfolded

it's a bit strange and they take them into the temple they're not allowed to see anything as they go in and then they are in the words of the guy leading this ritual they're given a death-like experience

basically they're get like knocked on the head really hard or like pushed over or something. It's very strange. Very strange. And I read a lot about this ritual but yeah the idea is that it's supposed to be kind of a powerful near-death experience that

strengthens you spiritually. Okay. A little strange. But hey, we're on the outside looking in so isn't everything strange? And I wonder if those rituals are standardized across all the different chapters. Some of them are. So that's where you get, like I said there's all these offshoots. Different ones have different rituals.

So all of the, let's say, kind of quote unquote, bottom of the pyramid sex of freemasonry, all the people that would probably admit to you openly that they're Freemasons. Right. Have similar rituals. But then as you kind of go up the chain towards the Illuminati and stuff, who knows? Hard to say. You're saying a lot of what social media was saying was a lot of people saying over and over again, you cannot be Christian and a Freemason.

at the same time. You can. You can be. Okay. So it was a lie? Yes, that is a lie. Actually, there are, so sometimes people will, Christians will point this out that Freemasons have Freemason Bibles.

You know, it's, it looks like a Bible, but it has their symbol on it. It is actually just a regular Bible. The contents are unchanged. They just put a Freemason symbol on it. It's just marketing. But if Satan's at the top of that little pyramid and they're at the bottom, isn't there something weird about that? Well, they wouldn't conceptualize themselves as part of the pyramid, right?

Like, they would look at all these other options. shoe organizations that kind of stem from Freemasonry as, oh, they're not us. Okay. So it's not like a pyramid where they're building on it. It's more like the further way you get the less. Things get kind of crazier and crazier. Okay, I'm going to talk about really quick.

This interview, this guy, Grandmaster, Mason. Tell me about it. He said he was a police officer. That's his real job. And he said many, in fact, most police officers are in the masons in some way, which is fascinating. But he fully supported the view that the

Freemasons have put powerful people in powerful places for the purpose of eventually moving the world towards a standard currency, one currency, and then a standard rule and essentially becoming the rulers of the entire world. And he believes that they're commuting with Satan in order to accomplish this. Really?

Yes. Like currently he thinks this? Right now. He was a high level that won, though. Yeah. 33rd degree Grandmaster Mason. Oh. Yeah.

So he's confirmed it for us, basically? Quite possibly? I don't know. Is he trust? Are any of these three people trustworthy? I have no idea if he's trustworthy, and that's the big caveat. I think my thing is, like, if it's six million people, there's got to be at least some normalcy to it. Because if you have that many people involved, someone's going to spill the beans.

If there's something really freaky going on. Absolutely. At least on the lower levels. I think your intuition is probably right there. Unless there's some crazy demonic stuff happening, which is possible, I guess. But I'm going to go with probably there's some normal freemasons. probably some real freaks that are controlling Hollywood and whatever. But there's probably outside forces that aren't just Freemasonry.

Yeah. Motivating that. There are a lot of famous people that have been Freemasons. But also like, okay, people talk about, oh, all the founding fathers are Freemason. No, not all of them. Like four or five, like a bunch of them were, but not all of them, you know. So they're just lumping them all in one group. Yeah, no, not all of them.

Okay. Well, are we ready to give it a grade? I think so. Okay, I'm ready to give it a grade. Three, two, one. D. Yeah. Yeah, that's really, it didn't do it.

A lot of helpful anything. Here's the thing that I thought while I was doing my little scrolling was like, this is why long YouTube documentaries and podcast series exist about this sort of thing. It's because the information probably takes more time to dive into. The problem is that what people do is you look up Freemasons and the immediate thing that comes up is everyone's into Satanic cult. And then I even remember I was at a parade and the shriners were on these little carts that they were like going around for the hospital.

That is the thing they do, the tiny carts. So the tiny carts in the parade. And everyone around us was like, oh my gosh, they're Freemasons. And everyone just started like whispering. I was like, those are Freemasons. And it started like moving. They give money to Children's Hospital. Well, I was like, this is super weird.

Exactly. Devil gives money. Maybe, I don't know. But yeah, I do think it's, eh, social media kind of dropped the ball a little bit there. But doesn't it always. Yeah, it's okay. That's why we do this show. That's why we do the show.

Hopefully we're right. And if we're not, we'll answer for it one day. I don't know. Maybe we won't. Maybe it's just not that big of a deal. Maybe it is a huge deal. Who's to say? Not us.

We're just kids. Okay. Thank you so much for tuning into the social mediators on Radio Free Hillsdale 101.1.1.7 FM. I'm Julian Parks. And I'm Gary Goulsby.

We'll talk to you next week.