WRFH/Radio Free Hillsdale 101.7 FM - WRFH NFL Draft 2024 Coverage

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

Join the crew from Outside Source Football and friends to hear insight and analysis of the 2024 NFL Draft. From 04/25/24.

Welcome to Outside Source Football, your inside look at the NFL. Listen to the latest predictions and happenings from the season with your host, Evan Mick and Gabriel Vondra. Here they are now. Hello and welcome to Outside Source Football on Radio Free Hillsville 101.7 FM with Evan Mick, Gabriel Vondrek and Joseph Doherty. Wow. We are live. We are live.

For this special coverage of the first round of the 2024 NFL draft, a historic moment here in Hills Dale, Michigan. Soak it in. Yeah, the first, the first time the draft has ever been broadcast on the radio. Ever. In this century. In history. In this century. And not only do we have the regular crew, but I'm looking around the room here, seeing some of my closest friends. These are the guys who we battled together on the gridiron. These are the guys who, you know, late nights studying, staying up late, getting through school. You know, these are the guys that they're going to be standing next to you

someday up on that altar when you finally, we all get the courage to dump our girlfriends and marry each other. Confession time. That's a joke. That's a joke. Anyway, we are joined tonight by, on the mic right now, we have Trevor de Groot,

Trevor, resident Chargers fan, Logan Van Akenvo. Go Pat Go. Also, you may recognize them from the baseball. Hillsdale College Baseball broadcasters. The baseball radio broadcasts. Some of the best in history. And we'll introduce the rest of the crew as they come on.

But Trevor, why don't you give us a little background on your, you know, your fandom and what you hope the Chargers get out of the draft tonight. And a little bit of your football playing history. Oh, of course. Oh, I wanted to thank you guys first for having me on. Of course. I'm not real experienced in this field, but I'm ready to give my take bad, as it may be. Hey, we do it every week.

So my Chargers fandom started off when I was a kid. One player that I was pretty much obsessed with was Antonio Gates. Great player. He played basketball in college and didn't play any football in college. So I played basketball in football, so I was like, yeah, that's pretty cool. I like this guy. So then from then on, I just bought more Antonio Gates stuff, and then eventually I became a Chargers fan. which is rare, I guess.

It is rare. I've seen their stadium. I've seen their home games. There's not many of them out there. Well, they should go back to San Diego. They really should. Yeah, they messed that whole thing up. Yeah, I screwed it up.

Well, they were in a similar situation as the Raiders in that. They obviously needed a new stadium. Qualcomm was pretty rough. Yeah. But just got no support from the city. I mean, it was a tough one, same as Oakland and the Raiders. But I hate to see it. I wish they were still in San Diego.

Always think of them as the San Diego Chargers. There's two. We've been on the radio live for, what, five minutes? And he's mentioned the Raiders twice. Oh. Oh. Yes, there's a counter. I should.

Get the tally going. There's a whiteboard. I'm sorry. I got to make it about me and the Raiders somehow. Dang. That's the only reason I'm doing this. This is my audition to become the Raiders' new media guy. Eddie Pascal, I'm coming for you.

Yeah, that guy. Yeah, that guy. I can't believe they moved the Chargers and the Rams, though, both to Los Angeles. Like, what did they think was going to happen? I know. In a city that has never cared about the NFL. Yeah, right. You know, you move the Raiders to Vegas, and at least they're the only football team in Vegas.

Yeah. But, like, you move the Chargers and the Rams to L.A., and it's like, I mean, what'd you expect? One of those teams is going to be a favorite, and the other one's not. Well, the reason, I mean, the Rams and the Raiders both moved out of L.A. in the mid-90s, because, like I said, LA has never cared about the NFL. That city is dominated by the Lakers, the Dodgers, USC, Hollywood. It's just not a professional football town, but I mean, they're still trying. Yeah.

Good for him. Logan, Logan, we want to hear a little bit about you and your terrible team that you like. Oh, gosh. Not a terrible team. She said's rule. But my parents, my parents grew up in the UP and basically. Which is Michigan? Yeah, UP of Michigan, Upper Peninsula.

It's weird. They're pretty much closer to Green Bay than they are to Detroit. So most people up in the UP are just diehard Packers fans, and I kind of was born into it. So I've just been loving the Packers ever since I was born. And luckily, since I've been young, the Packers have been good. And it was until recently we lost Aaron Rogers. However, we just got our third Hall of Fame quarterback in a row.

I was going to say you guys had a really rough six weeks of not being a good team there. Yeah, that off-season, that rough one. Who is with, who is that, who's that? We got eyes on Caleb Williams right now. He's walking in. Do we know who that is with him? I mean, probably is. Is she famous?

I don't know. Should we know who that is? I don't know. Okay. He's very gorgeous to me. I got my best man on it. He's going to, he'll have an answer in about 15 seconds, tops. He's beating the allegations with this one.

All right. All right. Do we want to hear the Packers take right away? We want to talk. What Packers take? a lot of bad things in the air. Especially about the Packers. Especially about the Packers.

Well, when they were two and five. They started out the season pretty rough, you know. And Gabriel was pretty down in the pack. We all were pretty down on the Packers. Let's give this a little bit more of a proper introduction. We've had a lot of takes on this show. We've done a lot of episodes. We went back and found some of the funnier things we've said.

And this was one of them. This was, this was me talking about the Packers when they were at their lowest. All right. Are you going to play it? Yeah. Definitely with the Packers. I think the Packers are pretty bad. I don't disagree with you.

I think Jordan Love kind of started hot this season, but I think some things have been exposed and especially after watching him against the Raiders, it was rough. He's struggling to see the, to read the field. And yeah, I think the Packers offense is really not good. So what a great take. Turn out. They didn't have their Hall of Fame quarterback, third Hall of Fame quarterback in a row. That was the week before he went off.

I stand by the take. I mean, he looked horrible at the time that I said it, and then he turned it around and obviously looked much better. To be fair, Jordan Love will go throw an absolute horrible ball. And then the very next throw that he'll make is just the absolute most beautiful thing I've ever seen in sports. Well, he reminds me of Brett Favre in that respect, where he's going to make some throws.

I mean, like the throw that they lost in the play. playoffs against the 49ers. I was like, dude, what are you doing? Rolling out to the right back across his body, but it also makes for some some highlight plays and some spectacular moments like we saw the week before against Dallas. And so we don't know who's coming in right now with Caleb Williams, but we did know who was coming in last year with Will Levis, right? Yes, we did. And after Will Levis had that four touchdown game, had some comments to say about it.

Yeah, let me say one thing right off the bat here with Will Levis. Because you know he and his girlfriend from the draft. They're not together anymore. Apparently she broke up with him. Will, when she calls you trying to get you back after this game, don't even answer. Yeah. Again, I think that was sound advice. Everybody saw Will Levis's girlfriend at the draft last year.

She was a little bit talking to the town. It was more about Will Levis was the last guy in the green room. You never want to be the last guy in the green room. So goes through the whole first round, doesn't get drafted. And then I don't think he's, came back for day two when he did get drafted. So it was a rough draft day for Will Levis. Yeah, it seems like his girlfriend may have left him.

I don't know if that was the reason, but it certainly didn't help. And when he did get a chance this year, you know, he played all right. And especially that first start, yeah, he looked really good. And so I was just giving him some sound advice. He said, hey, if she wasn't there for you when you slipped out of the first round, Don't let her back in when you're throwing four touchdowns in your first NFL start. Sounds like some great advice. Yeah.

Why don't we play some of your takes, Evan? Because you had some really, you had some really good ones. That's really that bad for me, you know? I think there's a list. Okay. Yeah, there was a list. A list. All right.

So this is just, I think it just helps my case that Terry Kiel is a better MVP candidate than Tua. With Christian McCaffrey out, probably for a couple weeks. weeks. Tyree Kill walk for offensive player of the year at this point. He's the best. If he keeps playing at the pace he's playing at, no Justin Jefferson, no CMC. I mean, if I was voting, I think that Tyree Kill is the league MVP

right now. Wait, I got a better one, actually. Aaron Rogers comes back in week 17. What do the Jets team look like? Because I think that after beating the Eagles, they show that if Rogers comes back, they're the best team in the NFL other than the 49ers. That's absurd. And the thing is, we

thought it was absurd at the time. We were like, are you kidding me? They were, I think they were like three and three. And Evan was just saying, yeah, as long as, as, as long as Aaron Rogers comes back week 17 on a surgically repaired Achilles, that that automatically made them the best team in the NFL. Can I defend myself a little bit? Yeah, go ahead. They had beat the bills in week one, 13, 16, or whatever it was on some punt return touchdown. And then about five or six weeks later, they beat the hottest team in football, which was the Phil Dolph, the Eagles. And so I felt like with the worst quarterback play in football, if their quarterback play had been average, Aaron Rogers on a limp that they could have made the playoffs. They could

have been one of the best teams. You know? It's possible. It's possible. Hey, in the interim, while Joe is out of the room, do one of you guys want to hop in this spot right here? We may as well. The more the merrier, I think. New guest. At least you guys don't have a social media quarterback. Social media court. Who doesn't have a social media quarter? Anybody but the charges? Yeah, yeah. Everybody. I think that is one of the dumbest takes.

Thank you. In history. I don't know what, is it Emmanuel Ocho? Yeah. I don't know what he has against Justin. Well, he is that. I don't know what he has against Justin Herbert, but the way that he just, like, made that his own, like, little personal thing,

like, I'm going to rip on Justin Herbert for no reason. I mean, yeah, I know the charges have lost close. games, but I rarely remember a close game that they lost that it was Justin Herbert's fault. Usually it was Justin Herbert was the only reason they were still in the game. I think he's an excellent quarterback. I think that was, that seemed like something that was so obvious, like he was just doing it to get clicks because he knew it would catch people's attention. And he said before, he's been, Emmanuel Otto himself has been like on Twitter.

I don't know how you get away with this. He was on Twitter. He was like, oh, I just said that even if it's not true, it's still hot. I'm like, well, that's, you're kind of not your job, you know? So. I mean, unfortunately, that's where so much of, that's what so much of sports media is. That's why outside sports football is different. We're not talking hands.

We say, we say totally credible things like the Jets are going to be the best team in the NFL when Aaron Rogers comes back in a week seven. I don't think the Steelers are a playoff team. No, I think we all agree that Steelers are not. I think that. JETs, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets. If the Jets play like they did, shout out Joe Hissom. If the Jets play like they did against the Eagles with that just ridiculous defense, they didn't even have their two best corners, right?

They didn't have sauce. They did not have Soss Gardner. Soss Gardner was out and they still picked off Jalen Hertz three times. See, absolutely just completely valid takes that we have here on Outsidesworth football. Yeah. All right, we're going to introduce another other other guests? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Our resident Dallas Cowboy fan.

Oh, Mr. Ely. I would say your last name, but I don't want to butcher it. Hidemus. Hidemus. Ely, Hathamus. Go ahead, Ely. Hello. Happy to be on.

Get on the mic a little bit. Don't be afraid. Happy to be on. I've done a couple of baseball games with my buddies, Trevor, Connor, Logan. Yeah, I am a Cowboys fan. My name is Ely Haytimus. I thought we were at a different kind of meeting there. Hi, Ely.

I've been a Cowboys fan. man for 22 years. Oh, gosh. Poor guy. I'm so sorry. It's been a rough 22 years. Well, we have some special Cowboys, a minute of Cowboys stuff. It's clipped up just for you.

Can't wait. The Cardinal Super Bowl was telling the Diles fans that they're not winning a Super Bowl. This was after the Cardinals beat the Cowboys. All the other fans in the NFL can get some joy from that, watching Cowboy fans cry a little bit. It's true. Everybody likes that. The 49ers lost and the Eagles loss. were not the same as the Cowboys.

This was after Parsons came on Twitter. They had two losses. They were way worse than that one loss. So that's why people in the media are going to jump on them. I think each of the Cowboys losses is bad, though. The 49th is, is worse than 100%. And the thing is like,

and the Cowboys have also done this before. Like they always do this. Every year they do this. And even when, you know, they make the playoffs, they do this. Dak Prescott does this, has, you know, these bad games, really bad turnovers. So this was a pretty good take.

Made it to a Super Bowl last year. The Niners are, yeah, made it two Super Bowl. Or in the NFC championship game. in the NFC championship pretty consistently the past five seasons the Cowboys are not they haven't shown that they can do that so that's why they don't get the respect that those two teams do yeah that's that's one of our best takes

the season for sure well I mean you're really going out on a limb there saying that the Cowboys are going to lose in the playoffs you know how you feel about the Cowboys I think that was low-hanging fruit I would love I would really love to be able to dispute that or disagree with it however I can't It was all accurate, and it's all true. You could just look at me and say, hey, at least my team was in the playoffs.

Yes. No, I'd rather than not be in the playoffs. No. Then perform the way they did against the Packers, Logan. It's all right. My great king, Jordan Love, is going to lead us to victory. That was the single most pathetic performance, I think I've ever seen in the playoffs.

Yeah, that was horrible. It was so bad my brothers were texting me saying, it was this all part of a bigger plan that Mike McCarthy he was going to leave the Packers become the Cowboys head coach just so he could face him in the playoffs and get the Packers a playoffs win I was watching at the airport

and I kept checking back, checking back and they got to make it close right? They're going to make a comeback because it got out of hand so fast and it just continued out of hand. Dax still had a great stateline at the end of the game. Yeah, because he... Fourth quarter merchant.

He put out... Four touchdowns about 400 yards passing. He dominated garbage time. Oh, yeah, he did. Yeah. And Dack throws a 90-yard bomb to cut the lead to 20 points. It's like the Chris Paul thing. The Chris Paul 30.

How far are we from? We got about another 25 minutes. Chicago being on the clock. From Chicago being on the clock. Should we talk about a bad playoff loss? How about the Chargers two years ago when they lost to the Jaguars? Oh, that was horrific. Heartbreak.

Okay. So I wasn't going to bring it up. Yeah. Go ahead. I figured since we're just. We're just. We're a therapy session for bad playoff losses. I think that's, yeah, go ahead.

Of course. So that was my, the next day was my birthday. So my 21st birthday, mind you. So, you know, festivities. But I was just, I was with all my friends and they all took the, they took the Jaguars. So they bet the Jaguars to win. So I'm the only one in there that wants the Chargers to win, per usual, you know. And then it gets to the end of the first half.

I'm like, wow, this is crazy. Like, we might make some noise in the playoffs. second half rolls around there's a whole lot of guys saying I'm jagging off I'm jagging off like jaguires you know yes so that's all I hear

that's all I hear and then basically from then on out it was just heartbreak and tears so that's all I left to say anytime you force four was it four turnovers I think they had four interceptions of Trevor Lawrence and still found a way to lose

that is uniquely chargers I think only only the Chargers. I was one of the biggest adamants to fire Brandon Steeley about... Advocates. Weak advocates. I don't know what I thought. Adamance. I like to make words... I don't know

what you said. But the word is advocates. Week one of the year that they lost the playoffs to the Jags. So, I was very anti-Brandon Steely. I said it pretty much every week until they fired him. So... Thank you. If it makes you feel any better, the Jaguars were, what, eight and four and had a

pretty insane lead in the AFC South and then didn't even make the playoffs. this year. They fell apart too. Yeah, they did. There was some, I can't remember what it was. I can't remember what it was that like triggered them to go on that losing streak.

Didn't he get hurt? Trevor Lawrence got hurt. There was something off the field that was like, it was just a, it must have been a complete coincidence, but it was funny. I can't remember. Maybe, no, this is after Urban Meyer. I know. They had exercise the Urban Meyer demons.

And they were some demons. Yeah, it was some demons. Some demons. at a college bar in Ohio somewhere somewhere Urban's dreaming about that somewhere

somewhere he left his heart on the bar at the bar at that I love this bar I ain't as good as I want to yeah as you're listening to Radio Free Hillstill Still 101.1.7 FM still live streaming the draft

we have some more another coach get fired this year that Gabriel might have picked up on really early in the year like before the year started. Again, this is low-hanging fruit. Come on. Josh McDaniels is fired by week eight.

That's the negative hot take. That's it. I said that in week one. A regular season game had not been played yet. Yeah, that was one of our better takes for sure. Again, though, we're not, a lot of people were saying that. I can't say I'm super proud of it. You're a genius for that.

You're a genius. I know, I'm just a self-hating Raider fan. Same as all the rest of them. The Raiders. Joe's smiling. He's got a big... What are you smiling about? We're just...

I'm a soul-fating lions fan. Well, let's go with Gabriel and talk about the Raiders. This is probably my favorite clip that we have. There's a saying in my house because the Raiders are never in the playoffs. So it's always our goal just to stay in the hunt. We always just want to be in the hunt graphic. So if we can get to the end of the year

and be in the hunt, we're happy with that. It's not often that the Raiders beat the Chiefs. Not just beating them. but the way they beat them, it was just beautiful. When you're behind the Raiders in the AFC. West, that's not a good place to be. The Raiders would definitely be looking to move them, just because they're not going anywhere.

Could not stand him when he was on the Raiders. What's going on with the Raiders? The Raiders' score 63 points. The Raiders' defense is like a really solid unit. Well, I'll put both y'all's minds at ease. When you're looking to get back on track, the team you want to play is the Las Vegas Raiders. I'm going to need a minute for this one.

Because I'm not going to pick them. I just can't do it. After last week. After eight straight or seven straight weeks of picking them. After last week, last week was a new low for me. You know, there's been a lot of lows in the past two seasons, losing to Jeff Saturday and the Colts and letting Matt Ryan run for like 30 yards in that game.

The only game Jeff Saturday one as a coach. Losing to Baker Mayfield and the Rams when Baker Mayfield had gotten the building like 48 hours before the game. But losing to Tyson Vagent and the Bears, not only losing, just getting absolutely embarrassed, was a new love. in my opinion. And the Raiders, yeah, are just probably the most unsurious organization in the NFL right now.

You're starting a 38-year-old Brian Hoyer in a game. You're just a joke. You're a joke of a franchise. And the Raiders are a joke of a franchise right now. And for those reasons, I am picking the lines. Do you need a hug? I might. I might because it's hard.

It's hard to be a Raiders fan. My through-old card teams, well, first off, the Raiders. I love that one. That's the next week. I like how that sob story came right before the Lions game too, where they kind of got embarrassed. It was, I didn't really think about it. It just sort of, you know, this Holy Spirit just sort of came over me.

I just had to get it all out. We got 20 minutes before the draft, so I think we should introduce the rest of the people that are in this room with us today. So we're going to make a quick change in personal. A quick swap. Yep. Okay.

Quick swap. We'll give them time. Stand by. place some more of our bad takes. Nice and magnet. Eagles are. Separating themselves is the best team in the NFC. Jordan Love is, it's getting rough.

It's getting real rough in Green Bay. Those fans are learning what it's like to not have a Hall of Fame quarterback for the first time in 30-something years. More than that. Up next I have the Panthers, because I do believe in Bryce Young enough to get them to 10 and 7, which in turn would put them at first in their own division. Yeah, I had the Panthers. You know, hold up. I think you did that on purpose.

You played that when there was like some changeover going on so people didn't quite listen to what you just said. Before the season, you thought that Bryce Young was going to lead the Panthers to a 10 and 7 record in the NFC South title. I also thought that my reasoning was was because the NFC South was so bad. I was ready about that part.

That is true. All right, without further ado, we'll just go one by one here. Resident Bengals fan and just a heck of a guy. Loves movies. Ladies and gentlemen, Daniel Sutherington. Thank you for having me. How intimate can I get with this mic?

I'm usually pretty much right up on it. Yeah, you're good right there. It's better to be too close than too far away. We can turn you down if we need to. Well, good. Yeah, no, I'm happy to be here. Just love sitting around talking ball with the boys. This is about as good as it gets.

It's a dream come true. This is peak college years right here. So how did you become a Bengals fan? And that's it. How'd you be going to a Bengals fan? Yeah, I've got my dad to thank, Steve, Steve South, sports shots. Or to blame. No, never to blame.

Hoode, baby. I love it. So he's from Cincinnati, so we're all big Cincinnati sports fans. It's red season right now, so I've got to shift wavelength a little bit for that. But we love it all, man. It's good stuff. Where, what direction do you want the Bengals to go in the first round tonight? I would love to go home with a big fella.

Yeah. Pause. Give me a big boy in the trenches. Offensive or defensive line? Yeah. No, I think we could use a little bit on either side. I think we mocked you guys Byron Murphy from Texas, the defensive tackle. If Murphy got that far, I would love it.

He's a freak athlete and he's got the production profile to back it up against legit. competition too. Yeah. If he gets that far, that would be great. If not, there's a lot of offensive linemen. This is a good offensive line class. Definitely. It's a good year to need one. I would love Johnny Newton too,

but it seems like I'm getting the sense of the league maybe isn't as high on him as a lot of, like, talking heads and fans are. Yeah. So if not, I've also seen Amarius Mims mocked to them a lot, which... Mims is an o-linman that I'm a little only eight starts at Georgia.

I mean, he's huge. That's the obvious risk. He's 6, 7, 320 something, but he's a little raw, a little bit of a raw prospect for me. Yeah, no, that's the obvious risk with him picking a guy that has eight career starts. But the Bengals have a history of drafting linemen that don't test very well as athletes and don't, you know, just can't move very well. So if you're going to play in a conference. I like the host of little chargers? Hey, easy, buddy.

Come on now. Don't turn around. I haven't introduced you yet. You're not here yet. It's been the longest introduction ever for Danny. I'm right for him to finish. I'm hogging the mic. But the Bengals have a tendency to draft guys that don't test very well.

So it would be a happy, you know, breaking tendency to finally get a guy who's a little bit of a freak. Yeah. Even, you know, risk and all. I got you. All right. All right. Conner, introduce yourself. Mr. Can't keep his mouth closed.

Funny guy. But let me finish What do you mean? I muted them both I muted him both I muted Connor Why did you mute him? Because Connor

He talked out a turn Connor you're back on Ultimate power Yeah thanks Thanks for doing that little power trip there Mick That was a big hit I'm sure everyone loved it My name is Connor Stutes

Like the guys mentioned before I did a little Baseball radio broadcast So you may have heard me I'm not much of a ball nowhere But I'm a ball yapper I can just pull words out of my butt And talk about them

But you won't hear any smart football takes from here But hopefully I can pull a laugh out of you You're technically a lion's fan, right? Oh, nothing technical about it, I am You are a lion's fan Yeah Okay, okay So how does it feel

The first time picking late In the first round, you know? I'm I'm thoroughly proud. Yeah. You know, I mean, the first time in my life. I was going to say adult life, but I think in my entire life. I mean, pretty much.

Yeah. Or my self-aware life, at least. But yeah. So, you know, if you asked me, oh, who do you think the line should get? I couldn't tell you. I don't know that many names down the line down that far. That's okay, though. That's not your job.

Yeah. That's not why we brought you in. But I would say if you were to ask, okay, what kind of player? Back seven. Yeah. Yeah. Preferably a corner. Cool.

Yeah. We've talked about that. Joe keeps trying to push Brian Thomas. Speak Brian Thomas Jr. into existence. He wants them to either just take him if he's still there or move up to get him. That should be fun. Last but certainly not least.

Another Lions fan. Yes. why you give me that look? I don't know. For some reason, I had to think about it for a second. It is strange to see three lions fans all in the same room. I will not appear, but in general, yes.

Mr. Zachary, pardon. Hello, Mr. Gabriel. It's good to see you. Good to see you, too. I can't remember the last time you and I were on a show together. I don't know. I don't think those tapes ever got leaked. They hopefully we'll never see the light of day.

What is this? Well, that's good. What is we, what were we talking about here? Oh, we just had back when we were living together at the house, we had an idea for a podcast. And so rather than do any work, we just decided to make some voice memos on my phone. And, yeah, those are sealed.

Yeah, they should not be heard by. Logan, Logan was a guest on one of them. But yeah, it's, that's whatever. We'll move back on to the draft as you're listening to Radio Free Hillsdale on 101.7 FM. Evan, what do we got? Anything coming out of Detroit? So, I come out of Detroit. I don't have the stream up right now. I don't know about you guys. We still have another 10 minutes before the Chicago's on the clock. So the Bears got the number one overall pick. We want to talk about how they got there. I have a little clip from Gabriel right here.

Yeah, go ahead. Play the clip. I feel like the Bears have more to play for it because they're like, it's not, we're not the worst team. Like, we're going to have the first pick. because it's yours. Not because it's ours. We love the second pick. That one's ours. That was from our preview for Bears Panthers earlier this season. Yeah, it was like week seven when the bears were one and two.

To give the listeners some context there. Yeah. At the time, they were both like the bottom two teams in the NFL. And so people thought that the bears might end up with the first two picks in the draft. They ended up with one and nine. Yeah, one in nine. which is pretty good. Yeah.

Who are they going to take, though, with the number one overall pick? Cow couldla. Because I coulda. That's the unanimous. Shout out K's. Shout out K's. Yeah. Maybe later in the draft.

No, I think they're probably going to take Caleb Williams. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. That's the pretty clear, obvious pick. You know, Caleb Williams. Who do they take at nine, though, is the real question. That's what we could never decide. We hit them in our mock draft,

taking Romo Dunesay of all people, or not Romo Dunezay, Malik neighbors. Yeah. Falling to nine. Neighbors fell on our board and we just had to get rid of him because there's no reason. We felt there was no reason for him to still be available at nine. Let's talk about some people who could be traded potentially on Draft Day today.

Some of your guys. Yeah, I was going to bring this up. I see T. Hendrickson and I think T. Higgins as well are both. Both requesting trades. Kind of requesting trades. Yeah. I mean, if you're a Bengals player asking for, you know, you're arguing with the fair wall here. If you're asking for fair compensation.

Listen, I'll break this down for you because Trey Hendrickson is asking to be traded less than a year after he renegotiated an extra deal on his contract. The Bengals aren't even legally in the CBA. They're not even legally allowed to renegotiate. Do you know how many years he has left on his current? He's under 2024 and 2025. So he's threatening retirement. We all know that's not going to happen. But the real dummy is his agent here.

The agent's getting fired for this. Why did you renegotiate last off season? That's what I'm saying. I think what they were hoping for is they'd renegotiate, but the Bengals weren't willing to give more than a year at that time. They thought they'd be able to budge them, you know, six months later. And you're just ignoring, you know, the last 20 years of, of, the way the Bengals have historically structured their contracts to do that.

Honestly, I was shocked. I wasn't shocked when they paid Joe Burrow. I knew they were going to pay Joe Burrow. You had to pay Joe Burrow. But, I mean, honestly, after that, I was like, everybody else is expendable because I know how much the Bengals hate paying good players. They'd rather just let them walk. Listen, the Bengals, they do pay good players,

but they also understand that the market cap for receivers is rising, and you already have Jamar Chase that you're going to have to, you know, peel off a bunch of bills for and they've put a significant amount of the cap into you know fixing that offensive line because they can't draft it well so they go out of the agency and they spend the majority of their salary cap putting that together so it's it's it's just a dollar's allocation thing it's it's i think they've always paid good players when the time is right and sometimes you got to let those guys walk well we yeah we've talked about receivers and it's it's kind of an interesting thing in the NFL right now. And you say, yeah, obviously they already have

Jamar Chase. I don't think they're going to let Jamar Chase go. But a guy like T. Higgins is a little bit expendable. I mean, look at this draft class. You see how many good receivers are coming into the NFL as rookies. And you just look around the NFL in general. There's a lot of really good receivers, you know? I mean, I think we mentioned T. Higgins specifically where T. Higgins, yeah, and not long ago was like a sure-fire number one receiver on most teams. Now it's like, yeah, he's, you know, he's more like he's a high end, high end number two. And I mean, yeah, are you going to pay two receivers big money? You know, probably not smart. Chiefs didn't, I mean, the Chiefs let Tyreek Hill walk. When you have a team saying that

Tyreek Hill is expendable, anybody at receiver is expendable, you know, because I just, I feel like teams are confident that they can find another guy that can plug and play and and be, you know, just as or close to as effective as, you know, the guy they're letting walk. Well, and the chiefs didn't even find that guy. You know, they didn't even need him. They still haven't found a replacement. And they haven't, I mean, yeah, they've won, what, two Super Bowls since they let him go?

Speaking of, AJ Brown, I'm just getting the notification. I got that too. AJ Brown signs a three-year extension for 96 million, 84 million guaranteed. That's all right. Amon-Ross St. Brown is no longer the high. has paid receiver in the NFL. Savvy by the Lions to get that in on the ground.

Alvin Rouse was 4 year 120. Because Alamara was 4 years. So 3 year 96, I think. It beats them out. I think the numbers. It's a smaller contract, but beats them out average.

Yeah. Do we want to bring Joe on for a little bit and talk about the salary? Just a whole bunch of Lions fans? Well, yeah, we did have two massive re-signings for the Lions if he would like to cover that.

Oh, I just punched the mic, sorry. So we just believe that you... Oh, I'm so amped about it. We'd like to talk about the lions. Believe it or not. Crazy. I would like to talk about the lions. So they just re-sign Pene and Amun Ra?

The Pene Soule deal is absolutely amazing, in my opinion. He's getting paid like he deserves because he is the best tackle in the NFL. That's my opinion. I also think that Amin Ra is a top five receiver. He deserves top five receiver money. Simple as that. So I think that both signings are great. Some people are saying that they paid a little much.

I mean, they paid a lot. But, I mean, those are two players that not only are phenomenal players, but fit your program and your culture to a T. By the time the rest of the league catches up, he's going to be... Yeah, relatively cheap. Right. I mean, fifth or sixth highest paid guy. I mean, right now he's the second, right?

And you got to think... All of a sudden, because of A.J. Brown. Jefferson's getting signed pretty soon. Yeah. So he's going to be a top five guy, but he's not. going to be number one. That was savvy by them to get that done now. Just waiting on a Jared Gough

extension. That's about it. Cardo, you got any notes on the Amon Rae, Pena Sewell signings? I trust Brad Holmes. Trust Brad Holmes? I think that that's been the model of the last couple years. I used to try and keep track of what the lions were going to do

or what I thought they should do and then I realize I know nothing. And Brad Holmes knows everything. It's like, it's almost as if he gets paid a bunch of money. Yeah. Did we not have one of those before? Just anybody just could

pay money to make good draft picks? I feel like we didn't, you know? What do you mean? Like as a lion? Yeah, because they were just making bad draft picks. Oh, oh, okay, seriously. I was like, no, GMs have existed before. We just got one. We just got one for the first time.

Connor Stutz, a Lions fan also, what do you think about, what do you think that they're going to do with golf? This is our biggest ball knower right here. I think we're going to wear him out until he's done, honestly. 2002 Toyota Camry. Exactly.

What is he? What am I looking at? We're just scrolling through Twitter, bro. Twitter's crazy. Anyway, well, that wasn't Jared Goff. But, yeah, honestly, he's no superstar. Everyone knows that. He's good enough for Detroit.

Yeah, the weapons that they have around them make them better. That's what Dan Campbell said. That's how he said. You're good enough for Detroit, Jared Garvey. All I know. I don't know if he met him like that. All I know is I went to a Bengals Lions game two years ago, and I watched Jared Goff throw the ball away on fourth down.

So I don't care. Well, nobody's perfect. Like I said, he's no superstar. This is what I think is people that, like, I don't know, like system quarterbacks get a bad rap. But like if you can work extremely well in a system, like Jared Gough can for the Lions, then who cares? Yeah, I mean, that's what I think.

The offense was productive all year. It's not like that was a glaring problem. You literally had, what, the second most passing yards this year behind Patrick Mooms? Yeah, exactly. So I don't think there's any rush to look for a new guy or... It just depends if the price is right there. Yeah, I don't want to sign him to anything like overly long. A couple years, keep them around.

Three year, 45 million a year. 45 million is a lot. 45 million's a lot. I think that's a little high- That's a quarterback market. That's Daniel Jones money. I know that's the problem. Daniel Jones got signed way too big of the country.

You know, what the problem is is Deshawn Watson got signed to a billion dollars. Nasty. It's worse move. Keep him out of the league. Yeah. What happened? I disavow.

Deshawn Watson a couple years ago got traded from the Texans to the Browns and then got absolutely paid and then hasn't really done anything with the Browns. Yeah, I think the Browns. But he kind of reset the market. Aren't they? still like, feeling that a little bit in the draft. Say that one.

Yeah. But yeah. I think that was very excessive for that caliber of quarterback. I agree. I agree. I mean, he's a good quarterback, but he's not like crazy by any means. No. I don't know. No. Yeah, so. I don't know. I think we're going to have some

switch. Mic change. Quick mic change. I mean, it's musical chairs. We do want to. tonight. We do have an interview from Connor Seuss that we can always play later. Oh,

we have enough of the clips. All right. You're using all of our clips. Hey, we have one minute until, we have one minute until the bears are on the clock out. Are you serious?

On the clock? Can we get that? Can we move that screen in a way that everybody can see a little bit? Yeah, one second. Thanks. I don't think that there is a way to do that. I actually don't think there is.

Shut up, Evan. Computer only turns on. Okay, now I can see it. That was early. See, we talked to all this earlier. He used to be so nice to me on the show. And then he got to know me. And so now he's...

Well, and then I joined. And then we started teaming up on you. And then Joe joined. No wonder Gabe likes me on the show. At first, the dynamic was I was very grateful that you were letting me on this show. And then after a while, I was like, I am the show. Yeah, he talks a lot more than anybody else does. Yeahpper, a little bit.

Waterfied yapper? Watch me not say anything. You go ahead and fill the air. Oh, I didn't even get to. I didn't even get to talk about this because you guys were talking about it when I wasn't on. But yes, I do want the lines to trade for Brian Thomas Jr. Okay. And I'm saying that because everybody's like, oh, you don't need a receiver.

But you know what else? We didn't need a running back last year and we got Jamir Gibbs. So I don't know what they're going to do. I'm just saying it would be really cool. And yeah, that's about it. That would be cool. The only problem is that we do need a corner. Because I do not want to watch Kenton-Vildor play in this now.

Well, we'd sign two corners. We signed two corners. We did, but still. Just like we did last year, and then we picked Jamir Gibbs. And then we struggled at corner all year. Okay, wait, wait, I see your problem. I see your point here, Evan. Just take another running back.

Blake Coram. Why not? Joe, is there any move that Brad Holmes could make that would upset you, though? Any move that he can make that would upset me. I feel like he's earned some safety. You're going to trust him no matter what. I mean, at this point, I'm going to trust him no matter what. but like, I mean, there's obviously positions we don't need.

Like, he's not going to draft. If he drafted a tight end, I'd be pissed. If he drafted a center, I wouldn't be mad. Because I feel like Ragnell is going to retire soon. His body's beat up. He was debating retiring this year. You can always move a center to a guard position. So I wouldn't even be mad about that.

Tackle I might be mad about. But if they pick a tackle, it's because they love them, you know? I don't think they're going to go offensive line. I don't think they're going to go offensive line. I got to think somebody. I got to think they'll go defense. Well, there is some pretty big rumors about them trading up too now. So, people think it's Brian Thomas Jr.

Yeah. Possibly for a corner. Because here's the thing. They trade back. They trade back last year. And then the pick is in. I'm like, oh, it's Christian Gonzalez. It's obviously Christian Gonzalez.

And it's Jamir Gibbs. Why is it Jamir Gibbs? What are we doing? I don't know. Or it could be Koolaid McKinstree because he's the number one. His number was one at Alabama. I'm sorry. I keep cutting you off.

That's okay. I was just going to say, you mentioned the lines. being a potential team to move up. Other teams I've heard today are the Rams. Apparently the Rams are looking to move up from 19, potentially into the top 10. I heard they were going to move back, actually, to get out of the first round.

They don't know what to do. They have a first round pick for the first time since 2016, and they don't know what to do it. And then also the Niners, apparently keep an eye on Brandon Ayuk and Debo Samuel tonight because they could be on the move. Yeah, so sorry, you go. No, I was just going to say I saw a TikTok today. I mean, I don't know.

Very trustworthy source, I guess. Very trustworthy. It was, uh... Trust me. It was showing that... It was showing the Niners trade up with the Steelers. And they just traded Brandon Ayukawa to get that pick. I don't think they even traded up.

They just traded for like the 20th overall pick. Yes. I think would be good for both. Some teams I named when I was thinking about it was the bills, which bills have a lot of picks, but those don't have, you know, the most cap space. So I don't know about that one. The Steelers. and the Colts and the Jags.

So it'd be interesting to see who exactly is in the market for Brandon Ayuk. I mean, you never know. They might just jump a couple spots too. I would, I mean, yeah. There might be a couple minor trades. As of right now, I would, yeah, I would keep an eye on if one of those top three,

like I don't think Marvin Harrison Jr. will fall. But if neighbors or Adunze starts to fall, I would keep an eye on the bills as a team that might want to move up. I think Adam Schaefter was talking about how the commanders might be interested in Adunze. That amateur? Adam Sheffter Yeah, that guy.

What has he ever done? What's Adam Sheffered outside source football? I mean, seriously. Nothing. I'm being facetious. Why do I want the bears to just collapse? It's not just because I'm a Lions fan. People are hyping up the bears so much,

and it would just be really funny if it's like 4 and 13. There's no reason to hike them up. Say again? The first overall pick fixes everything. Just ask the Panthers. Yeah, of course. Evan, can you hear me? Yeah.

Okay, cool. Sorry, I thought I was muted for a second. With the Bears and Trevor, I mean no disrespect. But the charges are also one of those teams where I really don't care how good they look on paper because the Chargers look good on paper pretty much every year and then it usually doesn't go very well. I don't care how the good the Bears look on paper until I see it with my own eyes. I'm really not going to believe it. I will say though, the Chargers coaching got better.

There's a huge, 100%. It couldn't get any worse, really. Yeah. There was not much down for it to go, but it definitely got way better. I'm legitimately scared as a Raiders fan because Harbaugh has won everywhere that he goes. Everywhere that he goes,

he turns it into a winning team and program within two or three seasons. And the fact that he already has a franchise quarterback, it's just like, it just makes it easier. So, yeah, I'm scared of, I'm scared of the Chargers. Well, speaking of franchise quarterback, the odds, I believe, for the Chargers pick, the person with the number one odds for that pick is JJ McCarthy now in the betting odds. That's ridiculous.

That's crazy. It's scary. No, no, not for the Chargers, though. They're just saying it's more likely than not that the team trades up. Are you sure it's not the fifth pick? It's definitely the fifth pick. It could, yeah, probably is. Yeah, it's not a lot.

Because a lot of people have the Vikings. That's what we did in our mock draft. We had the Vikings trading up for them. If the charges pick J.J. McCarthy, I would. And trade Justin. I might pass away. I might pass away. Live on air.

I think the team that they'd trade them to is the Vikings, too. Yeah. Two first round picks. Herbert? You already have a great. Justin Jefferson, too. Maybe I don't know. That'd be sick.

Why would you get rid? There's no logical person that would get rid of Justin Herbert for J.J. McCarthy. Or Justin. I mean, there's not a lot of logical. I'm sure you guys have talked about this. Yeah, we took your GM. That's right.

But what was discussed about J.J. McCarthy? Like when you guys were doing your mock? Yeah. Okay, so here's how I feel about him. I liked him. I liked him more than Bonix or Michael Pennix. For me, he was number four. I had him after Williams, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, and then I had J.J. McCarthy.

I see him as a high floor, not as high of a ceiling guy. I don't think he's insanely talented. I don't think he has the physical tools of May, Daniels, or Williams but I think he's shown that he can operate an NFL offense

when everything around him is really good. You know, which I mean, I have no idea. I don't know what it's going to look like in the NFL for him because, yeah, he was never asked to do very much in Michigan. It was like... He never did anything.

More than any other quarter, in the top six, he is so reliant on what team he goes to. If he goes to the Vikings, he's going to be great there. Yeah, I think he's going to be great there. I think the Vikings would be fine because, yeah, Kevin O'Connell is a good coach. You got a lot of talent on offense. Justin, Jordan Addison, T.J. Hawkinson, decent offensive line, Aaron Jones now, like, and a decent defense.

Who is this NFL comp? J.J. McCarthy. Who do you think, Gabe? I mean, I think he'll have If he, no, if he pans out well, I could see him as like Alex Smith once Alex Smith's career got going. And Alex Smith was like a good quarterback with the Niners and the Chiefs. So you're saying he's going to have a devastating like injury. Whoa, whoa.

No, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying I don't think he's not like an insane game changing type player. I mean, this is probably all going to come back to bite me once J.J. McCarthy is the next patch of Mahomes. Yeah, he will. He'll be playing a clip. We'll have this one. He loves to do that. Roger Goodell's walking out.

Oh, my God. To start the Bears on the clock. The Bears. Look at that. Oh, and Eminem is there. Even though it's the Bears picking, I don't, I'm good. You know, of all the years for the Lions to have a good season, it just happened to be. When the draft was in Detroit.

How convenient. Oh, my gosh, there's worm. He's not wearing. a shirt. Yeah, we have live reporter Jack Ben Wormer he's going to be calling into the show later. Maybe. That's a bad idea. I'm sure the cell phone reception is great in Detroit

right now. He will not. He can't call to the show. Yeah, what he says won't go on the air. It'll just be for our own entertainment. There needs to be a mediator between a worm translator if you want. Yeah, the word comes to us. Worm sign. Word translator.

Yeah, I like McCarthy. You got a good athleticism, but I don't love McCarthy as like, I agree with Gabriel, I think he's very dependent on the system that he's going into. I mean, he had really, really good footwork. He was really, really, really consistent at Michigan with what he was told to do, because he wasn't allowed to do a lot.

I kind of agree with everything he said. That's another thing. I think he got, obviously got good coaching while he was there. He was a gym harball, and an NFL guy. Oh, and Jared Gauph is going on the stage. And I'm in Iraq. Why am I not there? Why am I here? Oh, wow. Oh, my gosh. Amonra. Fully buttoned shirt, no tie. I don't know

about that one. Interesting suit from Hutchinson. So we got all the big Detroit guys. Calvin Johnson. Megatron? What is going on? Gotta love it. I feel like I'm at like WWE or something.

This is crazy. He's going to come out next, Barry Sanders? Where's Barry Sanders? Is it Barry? Oh, Carson's Mary Sanders. We saw where that was going. Oh my gosh. And now it's the Undertaker.

Oh my gosh. I wish we could hear him. I don't want to listen to Man, I wish I was there standing three blocks Joe, give us a play-by-play call this. I can't hear it. Amundra is looking very small. I'm in-ra.

I just got Pizzade is what he just said. I don't know what he's doing. Amundrault say Brown is out the mic. Can you turn captions on? He's probably talking about the really bad Detroit sign. Can you turn captioning on? That's so. Oh, that's so true.

What is that was a mixed idea? Jerry got, oh, why are they saying? Jerry Gough. No, it's Jared. It's just auto caption. Come on. We got a Jared Gough's chant. Who's Jerry Gough? Let's go, Lions. We blew a three-score game in the NFC championship at halftime. Jerry Gough. Jerry Gough. Dayton Hutchinson. Hey, Detroit.

So are the Bears on the clock right now? Let's turn up tonight, baby. Not officially yet. No. Okay. Oh, now who's out? Barry Sanders is making his way. Barry Sanders is so small. He's like 5'8. It's a little guy. One of the best in history, though.

It's a sick statue outside of Ford Field. It is. Okay, you know who got robbed with her statue recently? Alan I. What the heck was that? The bobblehead said. They gave my man a big GI Joe and put it out. They gave him a bronze big GI Joe outside the stadium. I mean, what was that?

Can you pull that up? Yeah, pull that up, Joe. That's Sean Taylor Memorial. The Sean Taylor one was four. That was the one I thought you were going to say. Which one? This one? No, it's like him hitting a cross-off.

What, this little thing? No, no, no, it's insanely small. No, that's not it. That's a different thing. Sean Taylor got a mannequin. Alan Iverson? That was worse. That was terrible.

Oh, I wrote, why don't I write Alvin? Alvin. You guys don't know? Alvin. Alvin Iverfin. You guys know how to him? There it is. Look at that.

This little thing? Yeah. Look at his face. Like Alan Iverson is not a big person. When I write Alvin. Wharf's that statue. Life size? We're talking about life size right now?

Yeah. close. If you've seen the movie Spinal Tap, I guess probably none of you guys have. Spinal Tap? It's a mockumentary about a band, like an 80s hair band?

No, different generations game. Well, all right, then I just, I won't even make the jokes. He's like 50, 60 years old. He's from another generation. I swear if the Bears take more than 30 seconds to make their draft back.

They always do. You know how this works. It doesn't make any sense. I don't know why. They've actually been on the clock for about. Chicago's on the clock. Chicago is on the clock. Rich Eisen and Daniel Jeremiah

We're looking live at the war room right now. Ryan Poles is in there with everybody else that also works. The other people in there. We're getting word that they're trying to draft Mitchell Tribesky for a second time. Since he's technically not on an NFL roster right now. He's still draft eligible.

Spencer Rattler, one overall. Didn't Trubinsky play good last year when you played for the Steelers? Man, the Bears look. Well, compared to Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph. He played better. Their last name should have been a Redwood. Tribiskey's picket as a quarterback.

Yeah. That is true. Also, his hands are tiny. He's got small hands. You can't have a quarterback with small hands. You know what they say about guys with small hands? Bad at throwing the football. They are bad at throwing the football.

That's what they said. I like how they're already showing Caleb William highlights. Yeah. Like is not in? Because we all know. We all know. It's like when the Jags. Oh, my gosh.

traded. It's like when the Jags a couple years ago had number one and Trevor Lawrence was the obvious pick and so it was just Jags fans just worrying

as they walked up there that they were just going to do something super dumb. Like take Zach Wilson this is how Bears fans feel right now. Like take Jim Marcus Russell. Speaking of, we haven't had a chance to address Zach Wilson.

They never called them. Oh, Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson was traded to Denver for not a bag of chips. Not a whole, but a half a bag of potato chips. already licked too all the flavoring was licked off of the chaps we should be shaking Gabe as AFC West fans

we should be shaking in our boots Oh my gosh, Zach Wilson is going to Denver That's a great quarterback room right now Jared said Denver Zach Wilson I don't even know who their third guy is Ben Danucci Ben Danucci

He's their third guy I think so Ben Danucci I was thinking Nate Sunfield but I think you're right Ely do you remember Ben Danucci He was with the Cowboys for a little while He's a good ball player

Ben Dinochee We got a lot of meme quarterbacks last year Just a lot of meme quarterbacks in the NFL Every team has a backup Meme quarterback And they all just signed up And they all just signed him Marcus Marriota

Kenny Pickett Russell Wilson I love Easton One of the starter Yeah My favorite He did so good Can we see

Are his fingernails paint No? No? He might have got a little manny though. I think he's got like a clear Oh my gosh, guys, he's getting called. The Bears might pick Caleb Williams. Oh my God, this would be shocking. You know, it's funny is if I was at this draft, it would go straight to voicemail because I'm always on Do Not Disturb.

And nobody can ever Call me. Where has anyone been? Fun fact, if you were getting drafted? Yeah, obviously I'd have my ringer on if I was getting drafted, guys. I mean, come on. We have like four hours. That was a quintessential dad joke for my dad every year watching the

draft he'd grab his phone and be like all right just waiting for the call oh good one dad it was it was a good joke are they walking up to the podium no not yet just taking their time just taking it I don't think they know how much time is left on the clock what if they forget to pick there's six minutes and ten seconds why are they thinking so long Gabe do we think there's a chance that we hear the Michael Herzar get drafted tonight see

Now, if the world was fair, yes. Yes. I'm not even, I'm dead serious. He put up the same kind of combine numbers as Cody Schrader. Schrader's probably going to get drafted. Late, but Schrader, I think Schrader will get drafted for sure. There aren't like any good running backs this.

No, they are. Classy either. The best running back is supposed to go like. I need to check in with Mike. I don't know what is his, I'm not sure what he's, where he's at right now. When's the CFL draft? He's top of the CFL. I think he's projected like first

first round for CFL draft I mean he had the number one like he did really I mean combine number and everything he did he did really well at the combine and all that so so you know how they like show like facts for teams it was

for the bears it was like have never had a quarterback throw for 20 touchdowns in a season and 3,000 yards that's horrible 3,000 Jay Cutler couldn't even pull it off.

Jay Cutler the pinnacle of the best Bears quarterback of all time Smoking Jay I love Jay Cutler Oh Jay Cutler's sick It's like there's all these random stats

And it's like Who's the last person to do this for each team And the Bears is always just no one Never done it before So it was 4,000 yards And 30 touchdowns Also Keenan Allen's name Just flaster cross there

As Bears wide receiver Keenan Allen That makes me cry Is that hard for you to say To put the words How did you Did you feel like that was an inevitable one like they just had to, but you didn't think it was necessary.

I thought Aaron was going to be a charger for life. I really did. But, you know, it's a business. It sounds like they went to him to try to restructure, and he was like, why would I restructure? I just had one of my best statistical seasons ever. And so then they were like, okay. So now we have no water.

Fair enough. I think they should have been, I think if they wanted to cut money, I would have looked at Bosa or Khalil Mac. Please. Yeah, because Joey Bosa has not been healthy ever, it seems like. And Khalil Mack, while his numbers were good last year, you had like six sacks against the Raiders and that sort of inflated things.

Yeah, a couple of odd games against the Raiders. Yeah, I wouldn't have went after Keenan Allen first. Definitely not. No. But as we've said, Harbaugh does not value the receiver position very much. Fullbacks? Tight ends and fullbacks. The tag.

The pick is in. The pick is in. There are no fullbacks in the draft. Not in the top 300 of PFF or whatever. That's a sad. Oh, you're not doing your own scouting. I actually have a fullback from San Diego State, right? It's 342nd.

Man, I should have known that. Is Nate LaFriya? Is he on the board still? He's drafted eligible. Where is it? All right in your guys' way. The pick is in. Wait, worms texted me.

Oh. Oh, we got inside baseball. He just said the pick is in. We have an inside source. He said the pick is in. That went out a little bit ago. Yeah, as you're listening to. Jeffrey Hillsdale 101.7 FM.

Somehow Jack is there in person, but still further behind than the broadcast. Come on. It's work. Worbs like looking in the wrong direction. I don't see the stage. You know, he's like way back here. He said it's Caleb Williams. Did he?

He says he says it's Caleb Williams. Is he messing with us? The announcer. I'm so glad we have an on-the-scene reporter. There's no way it's Caleb Williams. That's unreal. Really? I'm just saying, is he just saying that because...

No, I know, he said, yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's been announced. Caleb Williams' first overall pick to the Chicago Bears. What a crazy shock. I didn't see it coming. And he said, everybody is chanting Jared Goff. Yeah, still?

That's awesome. Oh, I should have gone. Why am I here? Just kidding. Yeah, so, so Caleb Williams. Yep, there he is. It was Caleb Williams, as we all expected. I think she's taller than him.

Maybe? Maybe she's just wearing heel. He's got prettier nails, though. So true. It's only 6'1. I did not know that. All right. Thinking about the Bears with Caleb Williams.

I mean, everybody kind of saw this pick coming, so. I thought it's out, but. This is going to be the least exciting part of this draft. The first three? No, I'm just saying the first pick. After that, it's going to get exciting. I don't know. We don't know who's going to, to be honest.

Should be Drake May. Really good player. Keel Williams, good of football. passer you can throw the ball a little bit i think he won the heisman his junior you're sophomore technically his sophomore year played not win the heisman last year numbers dipped a little bit kail williams your career is over well you are a chicago bear so do we think that that he's finally going to be the 4,000 yard passer all stipulations i want to believe it he should be he does have the i mean they put a good team around him just you know don't keen and all

Everybody. Well, let's see what they do with their next pick. If they sit at nine or if they trade back, maybe stockpile some more picks. So we think that, I mean, Washington's taking a quarterback because they have. Oh, boy. Guess what message I just got from our guys on the inside. Yeah. Oh, boy.

We're leaving after the first five picks. Oh, my God. Oh, no. What? I think they ought to go watch it, you know, somewhere else. I'd take it back. I'm so glad I didn't go with them. I'd be pissed.

Yeah. Don't they have a VIP? Boots? I have no idea. Somebody said that. I never heard that. That's crazy. That is crazy.

So you're listening to Radio Free Hillsdale 101.7. Caleb Williams, the young man out of USC drafted first overall to the Chicago Bears. Chicago hasn't been this excited since Lori Lightfoot

lost that election. You're listening to Radio Free Hillsdale. No? We know the clientele. We got some Lori Lightfoot fans. Nobody knows that is. I don't know.

She tried her best. She was the mayor of Chicago and she did a valiant job. Hey, you know what we haven't talked about? Bears New Stadium. $4 billion. How far off in the future is that though?

Like 20 years. Really? I don't know. They're on a Hillsdale timeline. We're going to build an insource stadium. We're going to have an indoor by the time you're down here.

for the last 15 years. Yeah. That's how they get you. That is. Look at that often, so. Caleb Williams, DeAndre Swift, DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Cokeman. Still gonna be.

DeAndre Swift really hasn't done much in the NFL still. I can break down, I can break down each of those for you. Caleb Williams, draft bust. Oh, his nails are painted. One nail. Caleb Williams, draft bust because he went to the Bears. DeAndre Swift, not very good. True.

DJ Moore. Pretty good. Keenan Allen? Horrible. No. Keenan Allen, very good. Cole come at, he's all right. There you go.

That's your outside source. How do you do it, Joe? I mean, I'm quite amazing. I'm just trying to manifest. He's a natural. I feel bad cheering for a young man's downfall before his career even starts, but when he plays for the Bears,

I have to. You are very actively praying on his downfall. But I am. Just like you would be. If he was a, yeah. Kansas City Chief, he'd be praying for his downfall. Not praying, but, I mean, yeah. I wish I was praying.

on my downfall. Okay. Yeah, I definitely, I don't really like DeAndre Swift. I don't even think he's the best running back on their team. That's the honest truth. What's going on in Nick 76ers? Probably pro-John John Johns.

First round. That there's a lot of animosity. First round playoff basketball. I know. You don't see that in the NBA? No. Hey, Joe, what are these? The 90s NBA.

Stanley Cup finals. What do we got? What are we got over here? Where are these scores? I think those are just, which one? Florida Panthers? Yeah.

That's live. Let's see. How are they doing? 2-1? Okay. 15 minutes left in the second period. All right. Two Florida teams. What do we got with the hurricanes down there? All right.

And the Washington commanders now on the clock. Getting a look at their draft room there in Ashburn, Virginia. Pretty clearly a quarterback. See how bad they can screw this up. Do we think it'll be Drake May? Or Jaden Daniels. Whoever it is, they have to play on that field. What if it's J.J. McCarthy.

What field? What field? The commander's field. One second. It was bad, is it not? I don't remember. I have no idea. I just know the Jets loves stealing Achilles tendons.

Oh, it's Jets field. Yeah, it's the MetLife because both the Jets and the Giants play there. And so the ACL rate is like, or Achilles rate is like double because both two James play there. And nobody ever says that. But people always like, oh, people always get hurt on this field. Well, no duh, two teams play there. Oh, I see. That's a good call. That's a good call. Double the games?

Do you have two guys as many games? More people are going to get hurt. We need more, speaking of two teams in one stadium. We need more football teams to play in a baseball stadium. Bring back the Oakland Raiders. So I was watching this film today of some guy from either Memphis or Drake. And whatever team they were, they were playing on a baseball stadium. Really? Yeah, I was very glad. Division one football, baseball stadium. Yeah, I remember.

We were watching the yesterday. I read who it was. It wasn't Drake. Drake has a really nice stadium. Well, then it might have been Memphis. We watched film on Drake. Do you remember that? We watched film on Drake one time.

And they were horrible. Their stands were completely empty. And they had just a huge stadium. Who were they playing when we watched it? Missouri S&T. That's right. Yep. Missouri S&T.

And they played Drake. Missouri S&T beat them. Bad. Pretty bad. Dominantly. Wow. And they were terrible. Constitino and I were watching this like,

dude, we should transfer. We'd go start for them. Unironically, they were very bad. Division one. Thanks for watching ESPN now. We were on NFL Network. I will say, though, there are some Division 2 guys who could get drafted. How could those names come up?

Like hers are saying? Only on this show. I don't know either. Division 2 guys. Some people have said this lesser-known, receiver. Conner Stutes, I don't know. I've watched a few guys. Are he's a great special teams guy?

Dude, this special teams guy. His special teams guy. Lunch pail kind of guy. Sneaky athletic. He'll bring the mood up in the locker room for sure. You're right. The pick is in. Gabriel is in already?

The pick is in. Well, there was five minutes on the clock, so. The draft room looks. I mean, the commanders know who the bears are taking. Yeah. So the commanders know who they're taking.

Like, no, the commanders don't. Oh my gosh. They took Caleb Williams. Oh my gosh. What do we do? Oh, my gosh. They're walking up right now. I'm sure that Worm is texting us furiously.

They might have already left. They're done. Jane Daniels. Wow. Jaden Daniels. All right. So they pick the athletic quarterback over the better passer. Interesting.

The Heisman winner from. 2023. Maybe looking for now. RG3, maybe. I hate to once again pray on the downfall of young men, but I feel like one of the three, the top three quarterbacks

that are going to get taken, one of them is going to be a bust. There's a pretty good chance to two of them. There's a good chance to bust. It usually goes. What? Two quarterbacks don't pan out. Oh.

Okay. All right. Jaden. Jaden, you know what? This one's a little tough for me because I had this feeling that Antonio Pierce was going to

try to trade up and get him because he loves him because he was his coach at Arizona State he was the guy who recruited him Jaden Daniels gave him a shout out during his Heisman speech I just had this

you know I knew it was probably it was unlikely but I just had this feeling oh I'm like what if what if they just do it what if they just sell out get up to the second pick but probably smart that they didn't you had your guy

Brian Hoyer no no I like They have their guy and Gardner Minchew. I think I'm okay riding with either one of those guys. Ironically, Gardner Minchew, I like more than in O'Connell.

Kind of a dog. He lives in a truck or whatever. Almost as a coach to the playoffs last year. One catchaway. Literally. And that wasn't his fault. I can't wait for RG3's inevitable tweet.

GC6-4-2-10. Talking about Jaden Daniels, he's going to be like, let me give you some advice, young man, and make it all about him and his experience in Washington. Even though there's new owners and new coaches. Exactly.

It's a completely different organization. Did you see the feud, him and Jay Gruden? Jay Gruden had. Oh, I loved it. On Twitter. I loved it. It was awesome. I've been watching.

So Jay Gruden now does breakdowns with Colt McCoy. Yes. For some, it's like Underdog Sports or something. Congratulations, Underdog Sports. I just gave you a shout out. But it's good stuff. Free shout-out. It's just Jay Gruden and Colt McCoy is talking ball.

Yeah. Jane Daniels, like him a lot. Take some pretty bad hits, though. Throughout the season. You can coach that. Yeah. Tell him to slide. Maybe.

He's exciting. He's exciting. He's exciting. He's a way room a little bit more, too. Yeah. He's pretty... Eat a sandwich. He's really skinny.

Man, one of the highlights they showed is him getting hurt. What are we doing? Come on. Are you on... Patriots are on the clock. Are you on NFL network coverage? I'm on ESPN.

Because unfortunately, I don't know where it went. I got you. I have NFL network. up on my... I'd rather have NFL on my phone. Let me know if you see it. So Patriots pretty clear to taking Drake May, right?

Well, you'd think so, but I heard that they're going to hear... That or somebody gives you an insane offer to go up and get the guy they want. Like Minnesota? Minnesota trades up a ton of J.J. McCarthy, I'd laugh. That'd be so funny. J.J. McCarthy had three.

That'd be so funny. That'd be ridiculous. Well, if they got Drake, May, I'd be scared. So far, it's pretty much gone as expected. Caleb Williams one, Jaden Daniels two. I mean, honestly, the first four picks should all be pretty easy. It's when it hits the... The Chargers.

The Los Angeles Chargers. If the Patriots don't trade out, I think there's still a contendence. I'm saying what should be. I mean, do you think the Patriots should take? I mean, I don't know if you build your franchise on Drake May. And they're just... Really? I don't think you do.

I think they're terrible in way too many spots to try and build on a good quarterback, not a great quarterback. I'll say this. It's a good point because Drake May is. Pick is in. Pick is in. So they're not trading. Okay.

Okay. Go on. The experts, and I agree with them, say that Drake may is a guy who's going to need some work. There's a lot of, there's footwork issues, there's mechanics issues, there's, you watching on tape, you're like, what is he even seeing here? He's obviously very talented, but yeah, that's not the ideal situation for him to go to a New England offense that has no talent. Yeah. But that's not good for any quarterback and you need a quarterback.

I know. So you're saying they should try and build around Drake, May. It seems like that's probably what they're going to do. Interesting. That's kind of the age-old question, though. do you build around a quarterback or do you build a team and then draft a quarterback or sign somebody?

Or just wait till you find a quarterback that fits. Yeah. Do you try to be like the Bengals, draft a quarterback, like the Chiefs draft a quarterback? Or you try to be like the Rams and trade for Matthew Stafford. You know, both teams win Super Bowls. There's no maybe specific right way to do it. But if you're going for longevity, I'd say draft a quarterback. Evan McGee disagrees.

He's coming in and saying you can build around Drake May. I just got that text message from him. So thank you. Thank you for listening, Evan. Can he call in? Can he call in? So we know we have at least one listener. Do we have a phone number?

Thanks, Evan McGee. Yeah, Mick, do we have a working phone that Evan can call in on? He could call my phone. Yeah, he can go ahead. Or Evan, if you're still listening, go ahead and make a call. Your phone. Or Joe. Or Joe.

He can call me. Yeah, we'll get you in here. The number is 1,800. Keep it to yourself, buddy. You can build on Drake, May. I think you can build on Drake, May. I think Drake May. Here we go.

He's walking up. Who's announcing the pick? Goodell. It's the first round. Roger. He doesn't announce all the picks in the first round. Boom. I'm waiting for the ESP notification before we see this.

Oh, well, that's different, Mick. Drake May? Could it be Marvin Harrison? It's Drake May. It's Drake May. Of course it's Drake May. Don't say, of course. What do you mean?

You don't have a crystal ball. Okay, if the Cardinals trade out of the spot and don't draft Marvin Harrison, Jr., they just want to be a poverty franchise. and that is all I'm going to say about that. I will, the good things I've heard about Drake May, very hard worker. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.

This is not the usual way. I'm not kidding, but, you know. A lunch pail guy. This is coming from Colt McCoy, who's close with Mack Brown, who is his coach at North Carolina. And he said this guy is going, friend of a friend of a friend.

This guy's going to put in the work to get better. So. We'll see. I also don't think that there's a guy with a better player comparison than Drake May. And Josh Allen. Yeah. The way that he plays. That's not as good of an athlete.

He's not as good of an athlete. He's not. But the way that he plays football is just kind of like, oh, ESPN. Sorry. Inside sources. Great. Now we're going to shut down. Drake May, got a draft, guys.

Drake May to the Patriots. That was the, that was the notification. I just don't. You know, I agree, though. I don't think Drake May is because of a new. athlete as Josh Allen. They're saying the cop is Jordan Love. Really?

I kind of see it. I kind of see it. Speaking of Jordan Love. I mean, they're just saying that because it was footwork. It's bad. That's it. It's not good. His footwork is a little egg.

No, I think it's just because this guy makes a lot of off-platform throws. He does. And you see a lot of beautiful balls. But this guy can throw it downfield at a basically... We are live. Any position that he's in. He's running to his last. running to his right off balance.

It's a positive and a negative because yeah, there are plays where like you said, creating off schedule. My issue is there are plays where he could just sit in a clean pocket and he instead decides to bail or is like slowly drifting himself into pressure. So that's just, you know,

that's the stuff that he's going to have to work on and hopefully he'll have a good staff around him there in New England. Maybe, you know, Tom TB12 will come back and coach him up. This is what I think. I think. I think Drake, man. of all of the rookie quarterbacks is going to lead the league in interceptions.

Because he makes some crazy plays, but he makes some risky plays. Like that left-handed pass that they're shown right now is wild. He's crazy, but like, is that really going to work in the NFL? I don't know. Maybe it will? Maybe it will. But I just see him having kind of like a slow year this year. But I mean, the Patriots are a long way away.

Yeah. From being in the Super Bowl window right now. It's a lot of risky throws. Luckily, their defense should be okay, because their defense was pretty good last year. They were just on the field a lot. Yeah. All the time. Tough.

I think that the one thing about Drake Mays that we talked about how we had, you know, a rough season in the pocket this year, he had a lot better of a season in the pocket the year before, which I think was a sophomore year. Yeah, and the talent around him was better. He had a better offensive line in front of him. Do you have a lipper in? He's a lot more control. Dude, he's got a fat lipper. run. That's my kind of guy.

Oh my gosh. Rookie of the year. Immediate offensive rookie in the year. Ooh, I think that's a good question. I'm getting word. The experts are concerned that the brim of his hat is way too flat. Is it? I can't see because the word on the street is that. The close captioning is directly over his face. What a dull suit. Oh, that is way too flat. Sorry, but if I'm drafting a quarterback to be the face of my franchise.

I think he just got some dip spit on the microphone. Dude, he has a fat lip in. Look at that underbite. I think he does too. It's kind of hilarious. He's perfect for Boston. I want to know exactly what he sounds like right now. He kind of looks like he's going to an office job right now.

On a normal day. It's exactly how the Patriots won him. Exactly how the Patriots won. This is the first time since 1971. We've had quarterbacks go one, two, and three. I was in eighth grade at the time. I remember. Yeah, it was Jim Plunkett.

Archie Manning and Dan Pastorini went one, two, three. Oh, no, never mind. It's happened since then. Also happened in 1999. Didn't it happen last year? It was alive. Sorry, sorry, sorry. And in 2021.

And in 2020. See, this is what happens. Ah, yes, with Zach Wilson and Trey Lance, the two best quarterbacks in the league today. We talk about all these quarterbacks and how they're such great prospects, but really, you look at that quarterback class and you're like, how much do you really know? You don't know anything. How much do you really know? Unless you were Brad Holmes, you don't know anything. So true. That's true. All right, Cardinals pick is in. Pretty easy.

You think Marvin Harrison Jr.? Marvin Harrison Jr.? Easy layup right here. Layup. Kyle. Kyler Murray did tweet today. He said, the vibes are immaculate. He's got a good feeling about today. What do you think about that? What if they take a quarterback? J.J. McCarthy. Vibes are not immaculate. It went out of windstreet in war.

Kyler. Fives are ruined. Don't call her text. Someone said that Kyler Murray is actually in the war room right now and they're actually looking at Marvin Harrison's stream

playing war zone. He said he needs a new duos. Oh, that's good. Double XP weekend is going to go crazy. All right. Here we go. Hey, don't spoil it. Don't spoil it.

Let's all just watch. Okay, I won't. It's like two seconds faster. Dictator Goodell. Boo. Everybody's definitely booing him right now. And the easiest pick of the draft so far. Harrison Jr.

Second easiest pick of the draft. Second easiest pick of the draft. Is our mock draft perfect so far? It is. Yeah, one, two, and one, two, three, four. All right, all right, hey, we got the chargers on the clock, so are you ready? Top of the trade. Will they trade?

Here comes Minnesota. I really hope they don't trade. Athleticism 73, wow. Do we think they're going to trade out? Possible. Well, that's true. He didn't do anything. I really hope they don't trade out. I really, I just, I want a wide receiver

is what I would like. Here's the thing, though. I really want a wide receiver. In my opinion, please, Dean Spanos. If they trade out, they could still get a good receiver where the Vikings are picking. And they probably take the Vikings second first round pick this year. Probably. No, Joe, the pick is already in. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. It's Jayne McCart.

Jim Harbaugh, he's taking Blake Corum. And the fifth overall. All right. Fans leave their house in rage. What is he doing? The issue is I think our mock draft is going to go astray when the Giants pick Malik neighbors. Or when anybody picks Malik neighbors. Have faith.

Other than the Bears. Before the Bears. That would be awesome. It's just like my bracket. It was really good for like the first hour. For the first game. Completely fell apart. The first half of the game.

I think it's harder to have a perfect mock draft than is to have a perfect bracket. No. statistically not even close I don't think so well except 32 individual picks that could be traded That could be anybody's

That could be anybody's pick It could be anybody too It's not just like a winner They could draft you right now Well actually they can't draft you You're not eligible They could draft That's fair

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As you are listening To 101.1.1.7 FM Radio Free Hillsdale To recap Caleb Williams went number one to Chicago Jaden Daniels went number two to Washington Drake May, three to New England and now Marvin Harrison Jr. stud receiver

from Ohio State goes number four to the Arizona Cardinals. Number five, Lake Neighbors goes to the Chargers. Do you want, his neighbors who you want right now? Yes, I do. I think. I don't want, I've seen a lot of J.C. Latham. Latham. Talk at five. I don't...

The thing is, they talk about Latham because he's a right tackle. Alt is a left tackle. The Chargers already have Roshan Slater at left tackle. So the idea is, oh, then we'll take the right tackle. But a lot of left. Didn't Pennet so well? Didn't he switch a couple times?

He switched. Yeah, I think he was left in college and then went to right. But, you know. Well, get on a headset. What are you guys? A lot of a lot of guys. We have an offensive lineman in here. How hard is it to go from one side to the next?

Or the other, I should say. Honestly, it's pretty easy. You just kind of got to flip all the plays in your head. I don't know. exactly how like the lions run their offense but with our plays it's all the same stuff we just it's either right or left so you just got to flip like the numbers for our stuff in your head so do you have a strong like do you have one leg that's like right now you play one side do you have one leg that's like specifically for like planting and like kickstepping and then you can't it's hard to switch from one of the

next yeah so i've played left for a couple years now and i when we switch and do drills like on the right side it feels completely foreign which is weird because i was always a right dominant guy but especially when I came in the Hillsdale but playing left guard for so long it's became really natural to do everything with my like pushing off of my right foot interesting

that is interesting that's probably the best content that we've put out on air in the first hour thank you for that that was really good you don't often get offensive I think you don't often get offensive linemen

talking about skills and stuff on like football podcasts well unfortunately we don't get enough offensive linemen on podcasts and Yeah, I mean, it's good stuff. We deserve more than one. And Jason Kelsey.

Yeah, Jason Kelsey. They're not talking about football. Kelsey didn't even talk about football. Yeah, those guys are, that's like, I mean, that may as well be MTV. It's just garbage. I think Penae played left when Taylor Decker was hurt. Yeah.

I think that was hurt. He's been hurt for a while. This season was one of his first, like, Treve, what do you think about Romo Dunzee? He's more like a Mike Williams. like a jump ball. Oh, he's more like a Mike Williams. Yeah, I'm good.

I'm all set with the yearly injuries. Not the yearly injuries. You know, I cut to commercial. I wouldn't mind it. I mean, Rome's kind of the guy I watched more, you know, because I was a casual and only watched the playoffs, college football playoffs. But I wouldn't mind it.

It's just that I think Malik Neighbors just has that speed and that deep threat to him that. Justin Herbert, he's got a bit of a howitzer. So I think having a guy like that would be pretty cool, seeing as he ever has. I think pairing neighbors with Herbert. Yeah, it'd be a lot of fun. Well, not for you, maybe as a race.

No, but I mean, I can take off my Raiders fan hat for a second and just enjoy good football. It would be fun when they played against the Chiefs for. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, it's always fun when we play against the Chiefs, right? No, I think, I mean, yeah, neighbors, I think Malik Neighbors could have a Jamar Chase kind of impact in his rookie season if he ends up with the right place.

So, I mean, yeah, if he doesn't want to LSU. No, not just because he went to LSU. That's part of it. But yeah, if he ends up with Justin Herbert That's why I want the lines to get Brian Thomas Yeah Justin Jefferson type of impact So we already have Alman Rossame Brown

So what do we need? You got dolphins on the screen right now Okay, hey, hey, we have questions coming in from fans now I just, am I good? Yeah Okay Okay, Ely, we got a question for you This is from Evan M in Grand Rapids

I wonder who's that would that be. Ely, would it be a good idea for a team to draft an athlete-type offensive tackle like Troy Fontenew to play guard now, but slide out to tackle to replace an aging guy when the time comes? That's tough. Really, I mean, again, I'm only familiar with the Hillsdale scheme. And we pull a lot as guards. and there's a lot of athletic things the guard has to do. I think the way we play football, it's a lot easier for a guard to move out to tackle

than a tackle to switch to guard. So honestly, if you're athletic enough, you can play guard and then move out to tackle. I think that transition would probably be a lot easier than... The other way around. Yeah, and the other way around. You think from going to tackle the guard? The pick is in.

Chargers are up. Well, thank you, Evan M. Feel free to keep sending the questions as they come to your mind. And anybody else that's listening. And anybody else out there? In the world, you know. If I'm a Charger fan like Trevor here,

I'm hoping for neighbors. I think neighbors, and this might be a hot take, I think neighbors is the best receiver in this draft, and I think he got, I think he got screwed out of the Blitnikoff last year. I think he was a very dominant receiver and a very dominant, conference. I know we had, obviously there's teams like Ohio State, there was teams like Washington,

so when in their time, they were blowing teams out. I mean, Marvin Harrison was putting up huge numbers, but in a 50 to zero game or something. And I just think that Neighbors has the ability to transition to the NFL better than the other two receivers that we see in these top positions in the draft. Absolutely. I really, really like neighbors. Like, I think that it's pretty clear that Marvin Harrison's better. Like, there's, is a clear gap, but I think, the gap is a lot smaller than most people realize. There's a man. There's Harbaugh. As we're looking at the Chargers war room

right now, there's a Charger fan. Wow. There's only, they found the one there. Oh, there's another behind him. Wow. So there's that guy, another guy in the crowd, Trevor and Philip Rivers 11 kids. I think that's the fan. Well, not all the kids. Some of them have switched their Chiefs fans now. Yes. Unfortunately. That is the worst news. And Corp. Colts fans, you know, Rivers is late Colts. That is true. That was pretty legendary.

The world's certified Charger fans. It does. They do exist. Well, man, the pick. Wait, no, okay, the pick is in. The pick is in. It took their time with that one. Maybe listening to some calls.

Kenneth Murray pick is just. They were on the clock till one minute left. I know, dude, that's usually a sign of maybe they're waiting for a call or different teams than maybe at the last minute they just decided. No, we're not going to trade. Boy, Cadell is looking rough. Pick his out. He does.

Oh, he did. He just had back surgery. The tie's already off. Was he ever wearing a tie? Must be hot in there. Well, worm is there. That's true. I'm booing Roger Goodell.

I'm booing worm. Boom's hot breath is probably reaching the stage. Oh, man. They did it. Good thing we talked about lineman. Wow. Joe Halt. I like this pick, even though it's not a receiver.

Trevor, are you okay over there? Do you need to keep an eye on you? Colton Miller is the cop. Oh, man. He's better, he's a better. He's better than Colton. Yeah, okay, that's. He's a very,

he's a much more touted prospect than Colton Miller was coming out of UCLA. I don't know if you guys are leading about Charger football, but Storm Norton sort of held down the right side for four years. I know a lot about Charger football. And, uh, six eight and a half is huge. He's,

he'll, at least, you know, at least Herbert will be safe, throw into, uh, I don't really know, maybe.

Clinton Johnson. Clinton Johnson. to the local pizza delivery guy. Yeah, I can't even think of the guys that he had at the end of the year last year. Hey, think about it this way. There's a lot of, there's a lot of good receivers in this draft, right? Homer was hurt for a while. Even if they take a receiver in the second round, they'll be getting a pretty good receiver.

Yeah. This guy is a huge. He's a monster. Yeah, and they showed a lot of run highlights there. And I think I saw a lot about how Harbaugh is probably going to try and switch the identity to a running. He's going to run the ball. Yeah. They're going to run first.

run that blank ball, you know. Yes, that's what Harbaugh does. And so now you have Slater and Joel. Having two solid tackles like that can definitely change the whole profile of an offense. And the track record of Notre Dame lineman as of recent. It's good. We got Quentin Nelson. Zach Martin.

Did Stanley play for Ronnie Stanley? Ronnie Stanley's Notre Dame guy too? Yeah. I know some ball. Are we still? No, or not. We are no long. Our mock draft is ruined.

Mock draft is busted All right Would you guys have going at five? We had the Vikings trading up To get I like Joe Alt You know he's like what can go wrong with the Here's the thing

You're never excited about an offensive line pick And then it's like 10 years down the road And he's an eight time all pro And you're like yeah I'm glad we got Joe All Yeah Like I'm glad we drafted Slater I think it was at three or four Two or three years ago maybe

Yeah Not sure yeah But well now we have two guys at both tackles It makes sense It fits with what Harbaugh's identity and what they want to do. That's a good pick. So what are we thinking about the Giants here?

The 30th ranked offense. Well, it's got to be a no-brainer. If they wanted McCarthy, he's there. Oh, yeah. I've heard they were higher on Drake May than J.J. McCarthy, though. So I think that it depends on if they had Joe Alt as their number one tackle or a different tackle. I mean, they could go neighbors. But I feel like it's, if they had Joe Alt as their like,

number one tackle, they got to go neighbors here. Yeah. Pretty easy, pretty cut and dry. You had a really, really big hole at right tackle, like the entire year with Evan Neal. He was horrific last year. But at the same time, you look at that receiver room, and it's about as empty as the chargers. And Joe Alt's off the board. Yeah.

So I think that the clear best player available and big position of need is receiver. You get both of those. It's pretty good sign. Like I said, if we've heard the Giants connected to Quarver. quarterbacks, I feel like more and more as the draft process has gone on. So pick is in. That was quick. They weren't, yeah.

That was quick. I don't think the Giants were ever going to trade out, but I do think that the I think, if anything, I thought they may trade up to try to get, you know. Who? The Giants? The Giants. I thought they may, they were a candidate to trade up to get. With the Cardinals?

Or something like that? Or the Patriots. Like if they, if they gave them a huge package to try to get, to try to get Drake May. Oh, I see. indeed i don't know i think this is neighbors or mccarthy i think it's neighbors i think it's neighbors are a dunzae honestly could be a dunezay i don't think it's mccarthy what if they go the just the next tackle off the board they could there's a lot of good tackles depending on who they have is yeah i don't know if there's a consensus number two after joal joal jol wasn't even a consensus

number one necessarily like he was pretty high but he was a pretty consensus i would say for the most part Most people he was, but I'm just saying like maybe they didn't, maybe Joe Al was not their number one guy. I would say that more so than there were number two. Like there's a big discrepancy. I mean, there was a number one quarterback. And there's no debate on that, really, right? It was Caleb Williams through and through. I'm saying there's a little bit more debate with tackle.

Yeah, definitely. So who is not a lot? And even with receiver. Who are the receiving threats or even the offensive threats? Because now that Sequan's gone, they don't really have. Oh, on the Giants? Yeah, there isn't any. They have a good D-line.

Darren Waller. Darren Wall. They have a good deal on. Who hasn't been good in three years? Yeah, the only position that the Giants don't need is defensive line. The defense line's actually kind of sick. Oh, my God, they took Jaredverse. Oh, my.

Darren, Fantasy legend for one season. And they just killed me. Luckily, I picked up Samuel Porter, though, so. Hey, they did it. Neighbors? They did what? Yep. Leak neighbors.

That's a number brain. Look at that chain. They might have been, they might have not even cared about Joel all being off the board. they might have been so happy that the charges took joe old can you can you really ever be happy though if you're paying daniel jones like 45 million a year yeah well that's just eternal sadness that's gotta haunt them every night at the very least now

they are giving daniel jones an elite weapon and saying okay go prove yourself prove that you can be the quarterback of the team Because if Daniel Jones is... What about Tommy DeVito? If he looks... DeVito is still in that roster. He's not going anywhere. Him and his cutlets aren't going anywhere.

He's right at home. He's right at home in New Jersey. I just hope I never... Did you hear about the news, though? There's some big news out of Grand Rapids. What's up? Listener Evan M. Has now declared for the NFL draft.

So... It's really upsetting that... It's confusion. His girlfriend couldn't understand why he wasn't... hadn't gotten the call yet. Yeah. Scouts are pertinent. particularly intrigued by his ice cream cone frame and its ability to pass protect in the backfield.

They're really loving the girth there. A lot of... I'll admit, I'll admit. I've seen McGee pick up some linebackers coming through the hole. Oh, you mean Evan M? Evan M. Evan M. But not me.

Evan M. Who's McGee? I love how we're broadcasting for one person. He's the only person listening. We're playing to the crowd. Some elite neighbors. All right. I mean, it's a great big.

You got a lot of it. It's a good big. A couple of years ago they made that mistake. Take the risk with Evan Neal. Didn't work out for him. Play it safe. Play it safe. So who's next?

Tennessee. I think Tennessee might take the next tackle off the board, whether it's the Penn State guy or. Or maybe. Olufashogne. Or maybe. Do we see a defensive player? No, not until the Falcons.

Okay. Falcons are taking the first defensive player. We don't think Tennessee is going to go defense? No. I think they go tackle. The Falcons will take an edge rusher that way. You won't hear about. Jervis.

Vic Beasley. Dante Fowler. That kind of guy. Tack McKinley. Yeah. Dude, I can't. I don't want to put out any bad vibes for the guy, but Chop Robinson from Penn State, he's kind of got bust written all over him.

His name's chop. What do you mean? His athletic profile is ridiculous and he tore up the combine, but Rob Chobbison? All he can do is beat guys with speed. A league neighbor's suit is awesome. Sorry to interject. He's got a bunch of pictures on the inside of it.

He's got like LSU memories on the inside of us. That's pretty cool. That's a good looking suit right there. Good for him. I think it's ill-fitting. Happy for that young man. It's too small. Big suit.

You like a 2003. Give me the 2003 NBA draft. I want more suit than person. My draft pitch. I take a size 53 suit, please. My draft pitch should be. What are you normally? A 44 long?

Here's a 50-7. He should be dressed like a snake oil salesman. I want a big suit with a bigger hat. Here's how we describe a polo tie and a pair of spectacles that are too small. How are you doing, young, man? Here's how the experts are describing Malik neighbors. They said, sudden, with an exclamation point. Now, we don't know what that is.

difference too because we don't have audio on this stream but early uh early reports of saying it uh early contenders for top nicknames are uh uh freak a leak malik they're really loving that one really rolls off the tongue yeah freakleek malik oh man yeah he's uh he's good he's good super super athletic anyway so let's hey can we can we get a recap sorry That's my fault. Evan, stop meeting us and your little power trips. I didn't even knew that. That was an accent.

Evan, go ahead and give us a recap. The top six picks so far. So, number one, Gail Williams, to the Bears. Easy, normal pick. Great pick, but obvious pick. Number two, Jaden Daniels, the commanders. Number three, Drake May, the Patriots. Number four, Marvin Harrison Jr. to the Cardinals.

Number five, Joe Alt, to the Chargers. Number six, Malik Neighbors. to the New York Giants. And that is the draft so far. And right on cue, the pick is in for Tennessee. What's his name? I forget the thing.

Oregon State's tackles. So many tackles. Faga. Fuga, yeah. Fuga. Fwaga. Fawaga. Papa.

A lot of Pacific Islanders in this draft. Fun names. Fontana. Fun. Very fun. Very nice. You're listening to Radio Freehillsdale 101.7 FM.

Well, it's been kind of a little bit boring so far. I was thinking maybe we'd see... Some trades. I was promised trades. And I'm not getting any so far. Promise trades by me. There's still a whole lot of mind left for Bain to show up.

Really tear the house down. It's a lovely, lovely... Oh, lovely draft. So our draft is what, four for six? Uh, yeah, something like that. Four for six. Roger Goodell is going to walk out. This guy.

I'm going to take your draft and give it back to you. The people. I think combine grades are your ally. You merely adapted to the combine. I was born in it. Olded by it. Okay. That's enough.

I knew we were, as soon as I knew Dan was on the roster, I was like, this is just going to be turned into movie quotes, movie references. Honestly, I'm here for it. If he walks out for the Packers pick in a Bain mask and a bulletproof vest, no shirt underneath, and says, Cooper de Gene, you are a Green Bay Packer. I might shed a team.

It's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. It's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. We, outside source football is unofficially known as the Cooper DeGine fan club. Yeah, that's just a gritty guy. We're pretty high on him. Lunch pale kind of guy. This is a guy who... First guy in, last guy out.

He puts his lunch pen. He puts his hard hat in his lunch bill. That's a big lunch bill. It's a big lunch bill. But then he also puts the lunch pail in an upside down hard hat that he then carries to work. The thermos attaches on top. Other way, I don't know if he'll play outside corner in the NFL, but I think he's going to be good regardless. Yeah, I think he'll be a really good player.

Well, lateral movement. He's more of a safety. I think he is a corner through and through. And I think that he's going to go to the Packers, lock up that secondary. And I think that he has the ability to actually play on the outside and lock up smooth. Go on.

The new kickoff rules, too. He could be a legitimate weapon. Absolutely. Yeah, he was really good in the return game for them. I like watching his film. I do too. He's fun to watch. Really good instincts.

Yeah. Big hitter. I think he turned, of his like seven interceptions, he returned three for touchdowns and one of them was almost a touchdown. So once the ball is in his hands, he turns into an offensive player. He was Iowa's most productive offensive weapon. He was as a DB. This guy is just an athlete through and through.

He had what points record at his high school and basketball. His basketball highlights are ridiculous. He was like a two-time, if not more, 100 meter dash state champion. This guy is just a flat-out athlete. Yeah. I'm smelling J.C. Latham here. for the Titans. Yeah?

It's just what I'm smelling, though. You just... You got it... It's an interesting way to put it. I've got some feelers out there. You got an inside, outside source? Inside. It got dark in Detroit really fast.

It always gets dark in Detroit. Well, it's been getting better. Ever since the housing crisis. And that horrible sign they put up. What's worse? The housing crisis or that sign? What was worse for Detroit? Oh, sign.

I think we have a soothsayer among us. Oh, J.C. Latham, really? I'd say the failure of the motor industry is probably the worst of all for Detroit. Probably. Has the Titans select Alabama tackle J.C. Latham? Seventh overall? Well, J.C. Latham, right tackle. He played a lot of right tackle.

At Bama, huge guy, 6-5-3-45. He's a bruiser. Very different style than Joe Alt, who went first. Yeah, really, really good run blocker. The one thing that I think can beat him is a speed to power move because sometimes he'll get a little bit high when he's past setting. But overall, I mean, just a really solid player. And anytime you can get an offensive tackle,

it was supposed to go in the top 15, usually those guys pan out pretty well. Yeah, usually. Usually. I think that's a pretty consistent top 15 position. More so than like, you know, I'll put it this way. Starting tackle, if you're a starting tackle in the NFL, there's a good chance you were a first round pick

because outside of first round picks there's not many guys starting at tackle. Well, that's two sacks allowed on 970 dropbacks? He's solid. Holy. That's crazy. Those are like Jared Valdier at Hillsdale type numbers. Not dropbacks, but you know what I mean? Yeah.

Shout out Jared Valdier. Shout out Jared Valdier. I remember when he got drafted. That was my introduction to Hillsdale. I was like, who the heck is this? this guy that the Raiders are drafting in the third round. He went to... From nowhere, Michigan.

He went to the high school right next to mine. And then I saw the numbers and was like, all right. Cool. He's 6-8, 315. I shook his hand once. I got a shoe sign. Never washed that hand again. Who's on the clock?

I got within like 15 feet of him once. Atlanta? Falcons. Hot Lina, yeah. Do we see a defensive player? I see them trading away. Kurt Cousins. Yeah, I don't think he's a part of the long-term plan.

And this draft pick for no reason. I see them drafting a great offensive weapon and then not giving them the ball. They're not going to touch the ball. Yeah, they're going to be Romo Dunesay and then he's actually going to... He's going to hold the clipboard. He's going to be what the Browns thought

Joe Flacco is going to be. Okay, question, Evan. Who's the Titans left tackle? Do you know? Off the top of my head? No, no, no, he's good. He's good. Proceder Skronsky is the guy they drafted

Last year, but I think they moved from the guard. Oh, they've been from the guard. I think. I'm not 100% positive on that, but I will look it up with this. I thought he played tackle still. Okay. Either way, that's too high draft picks now on your offensive line. Similar to Daniel Jones. It's Nicholas Petit Frere.

Similar to Daniel Jones and the Giants, though, I feel like the Titans, this whole offseason has been about, okay, Will Levis, we're going to give you a good situation on offense. Go prove to us that you can be our franchise quarterback. And you can do that with players like, well, Levis and Daniel Jones,

but, like, I don't think you do that with Bailey Zappy. So that's why I think you got to take, like Drake May, right? Yes. Well, Levis was... You can deal with... Levis was a relatively high pick, second round. Right.

And obviously, Daniel Jones was the first round pick, who they've also given a contract. So, yeah, I mean, honestly, I never really bought into the Giants who are going to take a quarterback early. I mean, there was a lot of noise about that, but I just, I didn't think they were going to do it. I felt like they were going to give Daniel Jones one more chance.

Yeah. Yeah, I feel like you got to give him another year. I mean, you paid him so much money. You don't want to be the next Denver Broncos where your quarterback is. Yeah. We're paying Russell Wilson $62 million to play for the Steelers. Yeah. Jinks.

Wow. still on the clock. So, you know, best player on the board for Atlanta is probably a defensive end, right? Jaredverse. Probably Verst. I'll go Dallas. Dallas Turner. Dallas Turner.

I like Dallas Turner. Lai A too. I like it more than. I just know Jared versus. I don't think Latsu will go this high because of the medical. Yeah. As good of a player as he is, I don't think, I think teams are shying away from him this early in the first round.

His measurables aren't as good as some of those other guys, too. Yeah, Dallas Turner's a free. He's more technically refined, though. Pick his in. Latsu is my favorite out of three. I think Latsu's got the best hands. I think he's 100% of the... His hand fighting is wild.

He kind of reminds you a T.J. Watt. Yeah. When you watch him. He actually, I think he led college in Sacks last year. A little bit thinner guy playing on the edge. So I have a question. Do you think that the bears, despite the Vikings, trade with the Broncos so that they can take J.J. McCarthy?

That would be something. You know, they just jump a couple picks here. I don't know. He's still on the board. Honestly, with that QB room, I wouldn't be surprised. Dude, I'm starting to get the feeling that J.J. McCarthy might be this year's Will Levis. There was all this talk about him going early in the draft, and then we find out that teams weren't actually as... Definitely could be.

As high as them and as the media said they were. Yeah. The issue is, though, is that I don't know if he gets past Minnesota, Denver, and Vegas. Like, those are three teams that could really use a quarterback. I don't think he will. I don't think he'll get past Denver or Minnesota Yeah I still think that the best quarterback for Denver If Minnesota takes McCarthy is Michael Pennings

I just think he could run that offense well It's still where I stand on that I think we talked about that We've talked about it a couple times I don't know but that's where I stand here Goodell's making his way to the stage I'm making decent time I feel like we're moving along here It's been mostly chalk so far

Yeah it's 9-10 I mean we're with no charter to the way Is it actually 910 Time 4? Time 4 flies during the draft, I swear. When you're having fun, having fun. Me and the boys. What?

They took him. That is unbelievable. What? Oh my gosh. Michael Pennix Jr. 8th overall to the Atlanta Falcons. Wait, what? Did they not just pay Kurt Cousins?

Wait, wait, wait, wait. No, this has got to be fake, right? No. Am I hallucinating? What? Oh, my. This is the most insane. We got a bomb shell.

This is the most insane pick ever. Finally. What is going on? Get on Twitter. What are they saying? They're saying whoa. They're saying whoa. The computer is blacked out.

Oh my gosh. We've lost all feed. Oh my gosh. Who do I look? Who do I even look up right now? I don't just type in like NFL draft at the top. Atlanta Falcons are you on crack? Well, I think they got to realize that Kirk just doesn't fit the profile for.

Now that's something I can agree with. No, I mean, it's not shocking. This is crazy. But I mean, because Kirk Cousins is three. You play one quarterback at a time. What do you mean? You do a three-year deal. This is insane.

They're going to draft the guy who's 24, a six-year senior who's 24 years old and has had four season-ending injuries. To sit for a couple years behind Kirk Cousins. What are you doing, man? I don't know. This is a bit of a head scratcher. But he's the left-handed guy, so I was going to learn behind Kirk Cousins. Evan, that's not relevant. Please.

I mean, important. It's not relevant at all, Evan. but I don't mean to be rude. PFF posted a picture of both of them and said, who's stopping this Falcons quarterback duo? Top comment. That's not really how this sport works. You know, wow.

Winning the NFC South, this is crazy. That's a picture. Of all of the teams, I could have, I mean, literally any team, I'm like, I can't even, I can't even say words. Of all the teams in the top eight, the Falcons are the least likely to take a quarterback other than the Chargers. No, I mean, you remember when we told them the Chargers. When we talked about it.

Yeah, actually, yeah, I agree. We thought the Falcons were an obvious team that needs an impact now guy because we felt like they have a short window with Kirk Cousins. You need a guy who's going to be an immediate impact. And instead, they go the opposite route. They're playing the long game. Yeah, they're going to have him sit behind Kirk for however long Kirk Cuck's is there. Dan was kind of saying it.

but what is Michael Pennix's biggest, like, flaw? He's 24 years old. He's old, exactly, he's older. He's torn his knees a thousand times. And he's injury, bro. The medical is sketchy. Bears are picking. Bears are picking.

I can't believe that. That is crazy. I feel vindicated, though. I thought Pennix was better than JJ. But on top of the injury concerns, like, he was fantastic in those playoff games. I don't know. I've seen his passing charts. And the guy can't throw to his right.

Comment from F&M? He can spin it a little bit and he can put, you know, he throws a pretty nice deep ball. But there are legitimate concerns outside of just his age and injury. He also can't run to save his life. Yeah, I was going to say. He needs a clean pocket and Atlanta is, you know, they draft smaller linemen. That's not what they do. They don't create clean pockets.

I was going to say, I wouldn't be less surprised if maybe Pennix could really move or he was really like mobile. Well, he's not that much more mobile than he ran a good. 40, but it's like, okay, congratulations, you have straight line speed. When you actually watch him play, he doesn't, he likes to play from the pocket. He used to be really mobile, but like, with injury, like, you don't want him running. It would have made more sense for the Falcons to have taken JJ and tried to develop him. Exactly. If that's the route you were going to go, I mean, yeah, I feel like JJ McCarthy would be the obvious air apparent to Craig Cousins.

I wanted the. I'm just, because, like, it is a. similar player play style wise. Do you not, I mean, because of their race. Anyway, I wanted JJ McCarty to go to the Falcons.

I was kind of mad that the Falcons signed Kirk Cousins. Because I thought that he would operate really well in that system. They have good, they have a really good running game. They got Kyle pets who maybe will eventually do something. We're moving on. Yep. I saw that.

This is a sick joke. A duncee? Is it a dunce? Is it a dudexie? No, no, no. Off your phones. Penn State. I think it's the Penn State tackle.

Or the Oregon. He was Caleb Williams He was Caleb Williams team. Wait, is Fashanu the... Olu Fashanu. He's the tackle from Penn State. Who's the guy from Oregon State? Talis Fuga.

Oh gosh, they're so similar. In name. Romadunze! Oh my gosh. This offense is crazy. This offense is nuts. That sucks. I really liked Roma Dunesay.

Now I hate him with all my guts. He's now an enemy of the studies. Romad Dunez goes to nine to the Bears. All right. Right. So the, what did you say? Connor, you want to get on? Yeah, I agree. Now that, yeah, if nobody heard that, Connor in the studio said,

the lions really need a corner now. When is the last time we see? So Keenan Allen, wide receiver three? So is that what we're dealing with right here? Wide receiver three is Keenan Allen. Wide receiver three is Romo Dunze. I'm still held up on the, on the Pennix pick. When was the last time we've seen something that baffling?

This isn't that baffling. The Roma dunce. I still think. He still would have traded back if I were the Bears, get some more draft picks. Okay, to that point. Michael Penix, to the Falcons? What are we doing? What are we doing?

I don't know. Like I said, it's a long, it's a long-term move. He's going to be the guy after Kirk Cousins. You're going to let him sit for presumably at least one season, two seasons. He won't play in his 27. This is a Packers kind of move right here. It is. Yep.

Instead of getting a good receiver around Kirk Cousins. But the, Jordan Love. was 21 at the time. And he was a project. Penix is seen as a finished project. I don't get it. I don't get it. And they took Michael Penning's top 10. They took Jordan Love at what?

22, 23. Exactly. If that's what Atlanta wanted to do, why not trade back? I guess because you thought he wasn't going to get past Denver. Who's trading up at this point? And the Vikings, nobody's going to trade it for. J.J. McCarthy's fallen. I think my idea that he wasn't,

teams weren't as high on it. as maybe it was trade. I don't know. Okay, maybe J.J. McCarthy's... I don't know. What they just trade with? With the Jets? They traded up one pick.

One pick. Weird. I wonder if the Jets were on the phone. They're like, hey, the Broncos are trying to trade up with us. Yeah. You want to trade up and steal it? Or possibly the Raider.

This has got to be McCarthy. Bownecks. Bownex, come on. That'd be awesome. Benser Rattler. So, okay, Minnesota is now on the clock with the 10th pick. You're telling me five quarterbacks went in the top of. 10 picks.

It's all quarterbacks and receivers. And three receivers. Yeah. We have yet to have a defensive player. Is that it? Joe Alt and J.C. Latham. J.C. Latham, yeah. Look at that offense.

The best, the best, the best defensive players still on the board right now. Yeah. I mean, obviously. I mean, we knew it was an offense players are still on the board right now. We knew it was an offensive player heavy draft,

but this is nuts. Now with the league, you know, obviously we've seen the ban of the hip drop tackle. It feels like every time we're seeing these rules that are hurting defenses, do you think that's obviously what we're seeing in the draft now? We're seeing offense heavy. Defense was so much more important last year than it was like the previous two years before that. Like the Cs got into playoffs because they're defense.

Honestly, watching the season, I felt like it was a little bit of a revival of the defense this year just across the NFL in general. We saw defenses. We saw defenses performing better than they had in the past. I think this is just a case of prospects in the draft. I think it was just an offense heavy year. I mean, yeah, it's not common that you have this many quarterbacks and this many receivers going this.

Okay, what did they give up? So the trade, so they gave up a fourth and a fifth round pick this year and got a sixth round pick and moved up one spot. To move up one spot. And like we said, this is totally awesome for the Jets. The Jets and the Vikings are not going to pick the same player here. It was definitely like the Broncos calling saying, Correct.

Yeah, and you hung up the phone and the Broncos said, they're willing to trade up for this much. Dang, I was the Broncos straight up though, to match up similarly. I don't want, I don't want, JJ to go to. And, yeah, the Jets would rather help a team in the NFC

than an AFC team. Yeah, that's true. That also factors into it. That's why I wanted the bears to trade back. Wow. Because I think, I still can't believe

Michael Panics just went to the Falcons. I am. Remember when Bejohn went to the Falcons? Robinson to the Falcons? Like, that doesn't even make sense. It doesn't even make sense. And now Roma Dunes

the Bears have a stacked receiver room. Oh my gosh. the Vikings have a stacked quarterback room. I mean, if Caleb Williams doesn't succeed in the NFL, it's not because of the Bears. Yeah, 100%. I mean, their defense is good, too.

I mean, if the Bears aren't good this year, they're never going to be good. You know, as much as I hate the Bears, it does make me happy to see a franchise actually have a quarterback prospect and put him into an offense that they're building. It feels like so often we see these quarterback prospects, they come into an offense that just,

doesn't have any more yeah the real reason for that is that the bear's pick was not one overall they they were a ninth overall pick and they just happened to have it because of the panthers pick and they got better so they got really lucky in that in that spot i agree though because you see the you see the packers with jordan love and you know jordan love is coming into his own he got some mentoring by erin rogers and he looks good i think it's i mean it's it's not you just have you just throw like will levis in there and you just fly it's young If it works out, the Falcons will look like geniuses. Like if Michael Panix takes over after Kirk Cousins and they continue, you know,

assuming they're successful with Kirk Cousins and it sets up this nice succession plan and it works, then we'll be like, oh, wow, the Falcons were geniuses. But if it doesn't and say like Dallas Turner or some of these defensive guys become big-time players in the NFL, everyone's going to look back and be like, you took Michael Pennix when Terry and Arnold was still on the board. or Dallas Turner, Quinyon Mitchell, all these guys. So. Now, Kurt Cousins is coming off the Achilles injury. And he's like 36.

Do you think that maybe they're thinking that this is a legitimate competition to see who can beat each other? I paid him so much money. It's not a competition, no, but I'm sure that factored into it thinking that, okay, Kurt Cousins is old and now the coming off an injury, like, it's not, it's very possible that he gets hurt again this year. Yeah, Penix. It's possible that Penix also gets hurt. I say, Penix is not the guy that you want to drive.

He's been healthy at Washington. He's played two full seasons at Washington. He hasn't missed a game. I would say I'm less concerned on the medical with him than maybe other people are. But, you know, you never know. Michael Pennix to the Falcons. Michael Pennick's.

Everything else in this draft makes complete sense. Yes. Everything else is totally boring compared to this. We got so normal and then all of a sudden, Obama said. Like the top four? I'm like, Evan, before the next pick, you want to give a recap going down, like what we've seen so far? Yeah, just let me.

Not from one overall. Go from nine overall back is what I'm saying. So, Romo Dunezai to the Bears at nine, then Michael Panix Jr. to the Falcons at eight. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Then J.C. Latham to the Titans at seven. Malik neighbors to the Giants at six.

Joe Al to the Chargers at five. Marvin Harrison, Jr. to the Cardinals of four. Drake, made to the Patriots at three. Jaden Daniels to Washington commanders at two, and Caleb Williams to the Bears at one. That's the draft so far. Crazy stuff. Mike?

So. As a Lions fan, I'm kind of excited. No corners off the board. This is good. Yeah, that is a very good signal. And all top three corners, I would love the Lions. Yep. Either the Bama guys.

Even Wiggins. Either the Bama guys, or Cudgeon Mitchell, or even Nate Wiggins from Clemson. Yeah, Nate Wiggins is okay. I'd rather have one of the other three. Me too, me too, but I'm saying, I feel very confident in the other three guys. I feel okay on A Wiggins.

Okay, don't check your phone. Come on. The Falcons could have taken like 40 other different players, and I wouldn't have reacted half as strongly as I did to Panix. I thought it was a glitch. They could have taken Xavier Worthy, you know, because he's super fast, and we would all have been like, at such a reach, it's just because he's fast, you're going above Adunzee,

and I'd be like, that makes way more sense than Michael Pennix. Xavier Worthy is born. to play for Las Vegas. Yes, he is. Oh. Just a straight line speed guy who's probably going to have some issues later. I don't want to hear that. Travel them too fast.

Who's coming out on the stage? I know. Red shirts. They're wearing red shirts. It's the cast of mash? No, I don't know. That's like the logo, right? Isn't that their logo?

I don't know. I believe this is a wounded warriors? What is this? That is a child. It says taps. It's a child. Teams for Taps. Taps?

I hope they're still booing them. Sorry. This is probably... Obviously just Roger Goodell. You only booed Roger Gadell. Have some professionalism. Come on. Oh, I forget the Vikings

have two first round picks. Where'd they get the second one from? Oh, Diggs. No. That's a second round pick. There's a second round pick that happened. It was a long time ago. They traded away pick.

next year. It's really, it's, it's picks for picks, I think, a lot. Oh, is it? I don't think there was many players. There was a, no, there was a, there was a second round pick from the Vikings that was the Bills, and now was the Texans or something. Or then was the Texans, now it's the Bills.

I don't know. It was not a first round pick, though. What if he just, what if he just swears and it's like, let's see? Who do we got? J.J. McCarthy. J.J. McCarthy. No way. I'm so happy that the Viking,

got J.J. McCarthy and didn't waste their other draft back. That's awesome. Okay, so the Vikings draft J.J. McCarthy, do you start J.J. McCarthy year one, or do you let him sit behind? Sam Darnold? Do you start J.J. McCarthy year one? Or do you give him a year to sit? Behind Sam Darnold. I think you make, I think you. I think you. I don't think. Well, here's the thing. You don't pick a quarterback top 10 to sit behind somebody, but we just watch the Falcons do it. It's all out the window, Meg. I have no idea. I don't know what you do. The winner efficient Alex Smith.

The way we describe him is he's a winner. Nobody else in this draft is a winner. Nobody else in this draft won a national championship. I don't know. None of them. If I see an Alex Smith comparison for a top 10 QB picked, I'm not too thrilled about their future. Alex Smith went one overall.

Never forget that. I should have a disrespect. I mean, they just showed his only like fantastic throw. I mean, hey, yeah, if you're the Vikings and you were able to, yeah, only have to, what did they end up giving up a fourth and a fifth? Oh, he's nice though. One spot. And now he is, he goes from Michigan's heroes to Michigan's villain.

He is. Villan. Wow. Am I crazy for thinking that this QB draft class pans out about as poorly as the 2022 one does? It very well might. It definitely can. It might.

I really haven't been high on this class at all. Like I, I like the top three and then the next three. I mean, are we going to see Bo Necks go to the freaking Bronwick's? He's not. Oh, gosh, he might. He could. To the Broncos? I didn't expect five quarterbacks to be off the board. And the Jets just waltz into Brock Bowers here.

They get a couple more draft picks out of it, too. Unreal. Yeah, they're definitely taking Brock Bowers. Who else could they take? They're not taking an offensive tackle draft or develop them. You could take another receiver, but you'd be reaching a little bit. And now is, you could take a defensive tackle. Are you guys saying that the pick is Brock Bowers here?

But I think the obvious pick is Brock Bowers here. I think it is. I think it's Brockwowers. I think that this was one of the easiest picks of the draft. Oh, my gosh, they took Bow Nix. The Jets drafted another. Drafts is a first round quarterback. Man, it would make more sense for Michael Panics to go to the Jets.

Because Aaron Rogers is older. Right, like, I'm thinking about, like... We talked about this. When we were doing our mock draft, I was like, what if the Jets take a quarterback to sit behind Aaron Rogers? And we all laughed because we're like, no, no, they got to win now. But it makes more sense of the Falcons.

Atlanta just did that. I still can't believe that. Yeah, and the last time you drafted a quarterback behind Aaron Rogers, he played. Did they like misclick a button? Yeah. To draft a player, do you like click a button? Like, how does it work? You send in a piece of paper.

Not Michael Pennings. No, now Michael Pennings. We wanted. There's actually a big chain, like a big chain of people and they play telephone and they have to go. That's how Michael Penix came up into the Falcon's draft. There are two cans, okay? And there's this string attaching the two cans. From Atlanta, Detroit.

Yes. They wanted a different Washington player. But they ended up with Michael Pennings. Michael Pennix to the Falcons. We're still talking about it. I think we have to. I think that that'll be the pick of the draft. I mean, the NFC North is looking scary.

It does. It looks good. But the AFC East looked really good last year too. Once again, praying on the downfall of a young man's career. I just want to know who the terrorist was that took that Michael Panics card up to the podium. It was Bain. It was Bain. He took it up there.

He had the mask on. You were draft Michael Pennix. Crashing this franchise. With no survivors. It's all over. Kirk Cousins is ready to jump off. No, brother. They expect one of us in the wreckage.

You and your Achilles. We're getting a tweet from Kyle Pitts here. It says, finally, somebody might throw me the ball. In response, Michael Pennick said no. What number did Kyle Pitts take? He's still an eight. Did you ever hear about this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kirk Cousin said that maybe my favorite thing to come out of the off season. Oh, what do you want for number eight? Oh, just some more targets. Okay. Kirk Cousins is wearing 18. He's not going to wear eight. Kyle Pitts. There was more two to that.

They'd have to pay a bunch of money. I know. To buy all the jerseys. But the story your way is much funnier. I like it my way. I like it. I do it. I do it.

I need to. All right. Jets pick is in. Don't look at your phone because it's Brock Bowers anyway. I'm not. Rock Bowers. Oh, my gosh. The Raiders are coming up. Oh, shoot.

What? No. Nope. That's not a bad. That's not a bad thing. I don't hate that. That's not super surprising. Yeah.

We didn't think that was the right pick, but that's not crazy. And that's not, I like that pick. Although I don't like fast. Who are the receivers? Garrett Wilson. And then who else they have? Mike Williams? That's right.

All right. So they don't need. They showed his 40-yard dash. I told you. No, no, that matters a lot. That matters a lot. I told you guys, though, I'm sure this was Aaron Rogers pick, and I know that Aaron Rogers has never been a guy who throws the tight ends that much.

Believe it or not, their quarterback was out the entire season because their offensive line was horrendous. So I'm sure Aaron Rogers was like, no, give me a tackle. Now Denver's on the clock. I mean, they have Zach Wilson, the quarterback of their future, so maybe they don't go next year. Here's the thing about Denver is that you can't draft a quarterback in the second round because you don't have a second round pick.

Oh, yeah, Denver is not a second round pick. If I were them, I try to. Could they trade back? You could trade back and then take Bo Nix. I try to trade back. See if you can get two second round picks or something. Trade back with the Vikings. I feel like Denver's probably desperate to trade back here, but who's trading up?

Somebody. I don't know why. A tackle for a tackle? There's been a run on tackles. You see a team that wants a tackle might trade up. But who's... I don't know who would. I don't know.

I could see... I could see... Indy might trade out for Bowers. You can see that. The Raiders aren't going to take a tie-downs, though. They got some pretty good tight ends. I don't want to be the nerd here, but the data and, you know, the value people get once the trade is done, the data shows that trading up is almost always a bad idea unless it's for a quarterback. Unless it's for a quarterback and you hit on that quarterback, which.

I know, but giving up those picks to trade up for any non-any non-quarterback almost always ends up in the team. trade and getting the better value out of it. Offensive tackle is another position that it makes sense because the majority of starting offensive tackles in the league like quarterback or first round picks. You don't find many offensive tackles outside of the first round. It's kind of the reason I want the Raiders, depending on who's left at tackle, I would rather them go tackle than cornerback because so many first round corners are bus. I mean, I feel like every year there's a lot of first round corner.

but I mean, you think about Jeff Okuda was like, oh my gosh, the can't miss prospect, like top five guy. Like, yes, this guy's going to be a lockdown corner

and he's on his third team, I think, in four years. The hit rate on tackles in the first round is definitely, it's probably the highest, like, hit rate in terms of any position.

Yeah. If you look at the last, you know, 15 years. That are like, you know, if there's like a dominant interior defensive lineman,

that's usually an obvious one, those guys project well. The guys in the trenches usually are the easiest to project, I think by guys that, you know, really no ball. I like that cornerback idea there that the first round corners obviously, or a lot of times don't feel well.

Every year it seems like the best rookie corner was some guy taken in the fourth round. Kevin King for the Packers. One of the worst corners I've ever seen taken out of Washington in the first round. I'm thinking like 2018 or 2019. Awful. If anyone's responsible for high blood pressure,

it's that guy. Is there a little survivorship bias? though here because so many corners are taken in the first round and tackles aren't. No, there's a ton of, a lot of offensive tackles get taken too, but I just I mean, maybe it's just because

the Raiders have done it so many times. I can think of a lot of corners that bust. And go ahead. And they have bigger names usually, right? Yeah, yeah. They're like, they're like Ohio State guys. People go back and look at the corners again.

Right. Yeah. You can watch the corner get burned every play. Not watching the tackle as much. You know, most people. Me personally, love watching me some offensive tackles. But I will say, you say trading up is, like, usually a bad idea. And I don't disagree that, like, statistically it is. But if you think you got your guy, if you think you got, you know,

I just saw a quote today from Jared Joneswell people, which is kind of ironic. Careful. We're on the radio. He said, he said, well, he said, well, Well, yeah, you can trade down, but you don't trade down if it's Micah Parsons, which is ironic a little bit because he traded down when Mike Parsons was on the board and then drafted Mike Parsons. But still, trading up is a good idea if you think you have your guy, right?

So it all depends on how, if you're like, this guy is so much better than everybody else that it doesn't matter, then maybe a trade-up is worth it. In that one scenario that a trade-ups worth it, Willie Anderson Jr. last year for the Texans, I mean, he's turned out great. After one year, but yeah. Yeah, that was the, after one year, that move looks good.

Yeah. I wonder, is this the most offensive players to start a draft? 11 for 11? We may have to, Evan, you may have to look at out right now. Got to get the stats department on that one. Jamie? Can we look that up? Jamie, look this up.

Computing. All right. So you guys were talking about the corners, and my dad was saying it all the time, and he was so mad when the lines drafted Jeff Akuta. Because of that. Sorry, anecdote, but I don't like corners taken in the early first round. But like Devon Witherspoon looks really good. And Sauce Gardner. And Sauce Gardner.

After three years, two years? It just depends on the guy. It just depends. All right. Denver Broncos, pick is in. They've had a rough week. They draft, or they signed Zach Wilson. They traded for Zach Wilson.

Trade it for him. For the bag of chips that was already licked. Debuted some of the worst jerseyses of I've ever. seen. And a lot of people say... Oh, those were so bad. A lot of people say, bad things come in pairs, but we might see bad things coming through.

If it's bonex, maybe. I really like their throwbacks, though. Spencer... You got to admit. They should only wear their throwbacks. I can't imagine them... I've heard a lot of hate on the throwbacks. I love their throwbacks. I'm sorry. I love their throwbacks. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And everyone

hates on it at once, and then three minutes later they drop the throwbacks. I was like, oh, these are perfect. Why aren't these are the primaries? Right. That's a good point. You can go back. Bring back the Kelly Greens permanently. They're so cool.

I do love the Kelly Greens. They're so cool. But I also might think that they're more sick because they're throwing back. Here we go. There we go. Roger Dells walking out. Nobody looks at your phone because we're a bit of a delay. Roger's showing a little bit of chest tonight.

What's that all about? So I mean. Trying not to get food. No change. I think Roger needs a chain to put it all together. He's not fooling anyone. So I've lamente Is it Bonex?

What kind of cologne do you guys think Roger wears? Jean-Paultique Jean-Pault Gilles No, no, we don't have the pick-Mex So stop Oh, it's B'Nix. It's B'O-Nix.

No. Half of the first 12 picks. Oh, my gosh. I don't eat that back. Quick, accurate. Two, it took it by Loa. Oh, that's a bad comparison. What a polite way to say he's terrible.

You know what word pops up every time Bo Nix gets brought up. people say Moxie and Moxie oh, his kids got Moxie, plays with a lot of passion. That is a polite way to say he doesn't know how to play quarterback.

He is a screen merchant. He's like 25 years old. I cannot believe that the top six quarterbacks were taking top 12. That is crazy. The Raiders, all of a sudden the Raiders cannot draft a quarterback. I'm so glad that the Raiders

can't take a quarterback now. Spencer Rattler? This is perfect. Spencer Rallel. Michael Pratt from... Joe Milton the third. Oh my gosh. Bonix, if you're listening to this.

Al Davis would take Joe Milton. I think you're lucky, lucky, lucky guy. I actually like Bo Nex way more than I like JJ. Al Davis would have flipped a coin and he would have taken Xavier Worthy or Joe Milton. I don't hate the pick for the Broncos, honestly. They kind of have to take them. You did need a quarterback. And Bo Nex is not that bad.

This is such a no, I think this is going to be bad. I mean, I don't, nothing against Bo Nix. just think he was like a decent college quarterback who stayed in college so long that the game eventually got easy for him. I'm getting shades of Paxton Lynch here. Oh, yes. Well, you're forgetting that Bo Nex is going to sit behind. They also took Tim Tebow in the first round. Yeah, he's going to have a Hall of Fame quarterback to sit behind. Yeah, Bo Nex is going to sit behind Zach Wilson and learn everything. Oh, look at those fans. Look at those fans. Some of them are just, they're just drunk, so they're just cheer regardless of his name. Oh, they do not look that

happy. There's, uh, they're minorities. They see, they see QB and they're like, it must be a good pick. It must be good. Oregon's a good school. Congratulations. You just got QB6. With the 12th pick. Give me 5th pick. This is correct. Oh, pick is in. No defensive players off the grid.

They could take anything. It's got to be a corner. It's got to be defense. Terry and Arnold is on the board. They could go corner. They could go, they're not going to go edge. It will be a. It could be a best play. I hope it's offense. I wouldn't mind if it's an offensive tackle. It could still be Tally's Faga. Yeah. Xavier worthy.

Don't. It could be Xavier. No. Don't pigeonhole yourself into just. I close my computer. I saw the other one too early. To just one position. Like you can,

you're in a terrible state right now. Get whatever value you can. The Raiders are in a great spot. All these quarterbacks have gone and there's really down. But their roster currently, like, don't, don't. Yeah. No, like I said, the only thing that they won't do is take an edge player because you have Max Crosby and Malcolm Coonson's,

you just drafted Tyree Wilson last year. So they're not going to go edge. And you just signed an interior defense. It's a lot of the edge. The Raiders. The Raiders front office. I do think they still go corner here. They have the pick of the litter.

Who do you for defense? Who do you like best out of all of them? It's got to be Terry Arnold. Which corner? I would go Terry and Arnold if I went corner. But I've talked myself out of taking a corner in the first round. And so I'm leaning towards. I'm leaning towards offensive tackle.

whether, yeah, the Washington guy or the Oregon State guy, both of them with names that are harder to pronounce. The Raiders are selecting Brock Bowers as the, no way. It's the buzz. Go back, go back. I kind of forgot about it. If they take Bowers, that would be nuts.

They did just take a first round tight end. They might. Or second round. Yeah, but Brock Bowers is more than a tight end. I feel like he's just kind of a ball player. He's a dynamic slot. If we got Brock Bowers, I wouldn't be mad at that. I don't know if, I wouldn't be mad at that.

I don't know. Was it Brock Bowers? I can't believe we can't hear it. They can't. Oh, we took Brock Bowers. They took Brock. Fun. Fun thing.

Jack. We may have just got the best player in the draft. Hey, more weapons for, uh, you like that? I love it. I love it. I love it. 13 picks in a row all offense. He seems like a can't miss guy, right?

And we need a can't miss guy right now. I think they're going to use him really similarly to how the bills use Dalton Kincaid. Definitely. Like you, like you can put him in the slot as, you know, effectively a big. receiver he's going to be really nice being able to motion him into the box and scoop out um you know some of those edges some of those line backers five rushing touchdowns in his career he's an athlete yeah he's he's he's not going to be the same kind of blocker that kiddle is but we you can use they're 12 we have michael we just took michael mayor from notre dama he's a block he's a better

block and you don't need him to be that's the good part their 12 personnel's going to be nuts oh my i love it mayor mayor's got some coming around to do with he's a big dude But he's a good enough athlete to figure it out. Maybe you just, maybe you just. I'm excited. What's the word? Transition him to like a pass blocking or a blocking tight end. And you just have my powers be your past guy.

I just think it's the Raiders. I mean, it makes sense in that Antonio Pierce wants a team that's physical. They're going to run a lot of two tight end sets. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Two tight ends, two receivers. That's 12. Exactly. Get those guys in the field.

And O'Connell, you better. That's kind of a good team right there. Wait a minute. They're still rocking with Aidan O'Connell. Or Gardner Minschew. Or Gardner Minchew. got to be Minjana. Brock. Dude, if he pans out.

Dude, look at this. This is so, so Raider. If he's as good as they say he is and we got him at 13, that's kind of nuts. And Antonio. Jimmy Graham Jr. from Evan, Evan M. Gabe, I'm excited for the Derwin James Brock Bowers match up. Oh, yeah. That's going to be. That's going to be.

Derwin will probably handle him as a rookie. Saints got to go. Saints will go tackle here. Saints got to tackle? The Saints have got to be livid because. They probably thought there was no way the Raiders were going to take Bowers. They probably, and now they're like, they would have loved Bowers.

They're just sitting there like, what are you talking about? They have placed every position, Taysam Hill? I'm thinking the Saints go forward. So they have Joanne Johnson. Like what? You want, I mean,

Joanne Johnson's better than Brock Bowers. Not? No, I agree. Grow up, Mick. I was just making a joke. I want everybody on the air to know that I am sacrificing a FaceTime call with my family right now. You can go take it? No, they can wait.

It's draft season. Go take that call. This is my job. I was on the phone with them right before the pick. Who did they think they were going to take? They were just, I hung up when the Broncos took Bo Nix, and then I hop back on. They really wanted the Broncos to take Bo Nix so that one that we couldn't take him, and then also it's bad for the Broncos.

Pick of the Litter. Yeah, makes sense. Saints need a tackle here, right? I think they got to go tackle or defense. Probably tackle. I bet it's Fuaga here. Yeah. Please.

Please. Just all offensive players. Okay. So, biggest surprise is obviously Michael Panix. Wait. Not in close. Evan, you want to give us a little recap of the last couple of picks that have come in? Since Pennix.

Since Pennix, we've got, you know, Penix at 8 for the Falcons. Romo Duns Day at 9 to the Bears. JJ at 10 to the Minnesota Vikings. The Jets straightened back one spot to 11 for Olufoshanu. Number 12, the Broncos with Bo Nix. Number 13, the Raiders with the late great Brock Bowers. What did you do?

Late, late, right. That sounded way better in my head and then I said it out loud and I realized it was a death reference. That would be cut out if this was a recorded show, but you can't do that. It's not. We're live. That was just an evanism. He's kind of like George W. Bush and that sometimes he says things that...

I'm sorry for spoiling that pick. I didn't think that they were actively walking out on stage. No, I... Oh, my gosh. That guy tweets stuff out like that all the time. Sanjit. So I didn't believe it, yeah. Brock Bowers.

Joe. Brock Bowers. Who are we looking at for the top defensive guys here? Just in general? Yeah. Considering there's been zero. Byron Murphy. I'd say there's three really good corners.

You got Terry and Arnold and Koolaid McKinstree, both from Alabama. And then you got, what's his first name? Quinion. Quinion Mitchell from Toledo. Okay. Those three are very good. Byron Murphy is a really good interior D-Line men. There's another interior.

Just J-R-Zon Newton. Jers-on-Nooten. Some people have them flipped. Jarazons a better pass for us to D-Tackle. Byron's bigger, better. Who's Guyton? Who's Guyton? Oklahoma tackle.

Similar to Amarius Mims. Oh, that's right. Those two are going on. Huge guys that are massive, but kind of less polished prospects. I don't know of any linebackers. You can ask meck for linebackers. There's the three. Edge Rushers, which are

Jared Verst, Chop Robinson, Latsu, Latsu, and Dallas Turner. Josh Turner. Chop Robinson will be a late first round if you go. And then you have, who's the other Dennis Robbins?

Darius. Dennis Robbenon. Dennis Rodman. Robinson from Missouri, right? That's not to play football in the field. What about linebackers, Mick? So linebackers, you got

Edger and Cooper, who might be an end of the first round pick. He's more of your typical linebacker, really, really good at reading. Where's he from? Texas A&M. They play a really weird

defensive line scheme though so he's kind of hard to see how well he reads gaps because it's very different because all their defensive linemen just spike in different directions. Then you have Peyton Wilson who's a freak athlete,

super fast. I think Wilson projects more as a safety. Yeah, a lot of people think he's gonna play the safety. Or like a star position. Because I was looking at the combine and they are not, there's no linebackers

that are very big or strong this year. They've basically gotten rid of the position. It's like you either are like a big athlete safety or your an edge defensive end. Traditional offball inside linebackers are gone.

There's like one guy you got. There's like one mic on a team now. And that's where Kyle Kudla enters the conversation. Traditional mic. Now we're looking at Indy and they run a very traditional defense where they need three inside linebackers. And considering there's no inside linebackers

in. Couldla to the Colts. Pick is in. Saints, who is, what if it's a receiver that their car can drive crazy? The big problem for the drive? Not allowed to do that. I use that word, I know what I was doing when I use that word. They're getting car a best friend that he can put eyeliner on. Oh, God.

Oh, enough of that. He doesn't wear eyeliner, okay. He does, a lot of the time, actually. He just naturally has very lush eyelashes. And he oils his arms. There was a hard knock A few years ago He spends the whole off season

just doing curls So he can curl into a ball Anytime anybody is close to him in the podcast He's clearly not spending the off season Throwing the ball around Yeah Respectfully Respectfully

We're almost halfway through the first I mean this is This is shaping up to be four hours I've got my money on Fuaga here Yeah for the Saints The Oregon State Oh they look pretty happy

A lot of people really like the Washington tackle I mean, we still got, they're kind of similar. Fautano. Yeah. He scares me as a Bengals fan. Because he profile, a lot of people are profiling him more as a guard. Yeah. And he's, there are concerns that people have.

And I hope the Bengals stay away from. So the Bengals this off season, they brought in Trent Brown and they have Orlando Brown. Yeah. So you're not like, it's not the biggest need in the world, but I would not feel good about Trent Brown. No, no. If you're going into the season with Trent Brown is one of your starting tackles. I don't like that.

You're basically better plan on having a really, really good third option. Because one, he's going to get hurt. And two, he's just not even that good when he's healthy. He is a serviceable starter. It could be a lot worse. They signed to a one-year deal. And if you're looking two, three, four years down the road, you're going to want a franchise option there.

So if the Bengals can get, you know. Well, they probably, I mean, what it was, 13 picks in, no defensive players. I am loving the position they're in right now. It does not matter if you need an interior D-Lineman, a defensive end, or a D-B. Your number one guy is still on the board. You're going to get somebody good. You're going to get who you want. No matter what you need, if you need anything on defense, you get exactly who you want.

All right. Saints pick is in. Let's see. Who is it? Rogers coming up to the mic. Don't look, Evan. I'm not looking. I only looked one time. It was an accident.

Please be offense just for funsy. I like to when you guys Fugga, there you go Dan, you have been on The inside sources are inside This kid goes ball Dan has been on the side He's a ball noer

Tilese Fuga I like him a lot These Pacific Islanders man They could play Nasty Yeah Powerful Nasty balance

Balance Yeah He's a balance between the two Or just like in general No he plays with good balance His upper body He's got a good work-life balance He's got

How many tackles? So we've seen six. We've seen a good work away. I didn't even register that. So we saw six quarterbacks get taken. How many tackles? Four. This is four.

Four tackles. Three receivers. Six quarterbacks. One tight end. One tight end. Oh, man. What is Indy going to do? No deep.

What does Indy need? Fugga ID. You need a corner so bad. They do? Yes. Terry and Arnold. You need a baby. Fell into your lap at 15.

That is crazy. That's crazy. You kind of need a defensive end too, but I would say mostly corner safety. With Arnold and Mitchell still on the board. Yeah. You got to take one of them, whichever one you like more. Whatever one you like better. What do they run?

Do you know what indie runs? Off the top of my head? No. They run zone or man. Do you don't know? Not really sure. I don't know. I know they run a lot.

They ran a lot of four three like two years ago when they had Jack Leonard, but I don't, I didn't really watch much of them last year because Anthony Richardson got hurt. And then it was just boring. out of the playoffs until like the last two weeks when they were playing the Texans. Dude, this pick for the Saints is huge though. I could really see them, you know, turning things around this year and going nine and eight and finishing second in the NFC South. I think you mean nine and eight and winning the NFC South.

With nine and eight you win the NSC South. This year they're going to go nine and eight and win the South. Yeah. Dude, this is crazy. Terry and Arnold's still on the board. Fottonu from Washington still on the board. Quinion Mitchell, Dallas Turner, Jared Verst, Laiatu, Latsu. I am so excited.

The lines might actually get one of the. Dude, Byron Murphy. Byron Murphy is, yeah, somebody's going to be a good player there. Dan, if you're the Bengals right now, would you take an edge rusher knowing that you have to replace Trey Hendrickson? Oh. You don't know, you don't, that's not true. You don't have to not replace him. No, listen, he's.

They could just play hardball with him and say, look, you're going to play or not. If Hendrickson really wants out, he's going to have to do some insane, like, he's going to have to do some seriously damaging stuff. Some Antonio Brown type. Yeah. Twitter meltdown type stuff. The Bengals don't bend easily to that kind of stuff. stuff but with the board where it's sad i actually i actually really like the bangles spot i mean they could go i would really love to see murphy or newton um but if mims is still there too i think

that would be a killer pick um you like mims from georgia mims like we said he's got some risk not having very much you know you're saying he's the opposite of the kind of guy they'd usually take and the kind they usually take i think it would be a really good you know sort of breaking tendency They just haven't drafted, you know, O'Linewell in the past. And a lot of that is because they don't really put that much stock in athleticism. So it would be a very unbengles pick, but I've seen them mocked there a lot in the past couple days. Yeah. So we just saw a clip of the Colts GM on the phone and they're still on the clock.

So are they trading? I don't know. Will it be another? It's going to be like the Rams trading out. Another offensive player? No, the Colts are amped. They're getting Terry and Arnold and they're amped right now. Probably.

All hugging each other over there. My gosh, Goulda McKinstreet, McGins Street, the line. Hershey's got the roof open right now. It's draft day. You know Jim Ursay's tying one on. Oh, my God. He enjoys draft day. No, the pig is not in.

The pig is not in. How much time's left on the clock? Three, three. All right. Colts. Oh, shoot. People forget the Colts did. The Colts added Joe Flacco.

Oh. A crazy move that will win in the Super Bowl. Under the radar move that, yeah, really moves the needle. Anthony Richardson's going to be. Oh, no. No, he's going to those four games last year. It was ridiculous. We might have talked about the Falcons.

Joe Flacco? Are you talking about Joe Fico? No, Anthony Richardson. Yeah. He's crazy. He's got to be. He was way more athletic, or he was way more accurate than I thought he was going to be. He's just got to play smart and not get himself hurt again.

He can't run like a fullback every play, even though he is huge. We've been talking about this because, you know, Anthony Richardson gets hurt in four weeks running the ball as just an absolute unit of a man. But then you got Jane Daniels who runs like he's a hawse of a man and he's a skinny little boy. He looks like a Looney Tunes character

every time a defender makes contact with him. I hope he learns to friggin slide. It looks like he just slipped on a banana. All right, they're using the whole clock here. Yeah. So you could trade back with the line. for Brian Thomas Jr. For another offensive player.

Remember when the Broncos took Bonnix? That was the most Broncos. They're paying Russell Wilson a bazillion dollars to play for a little team. I can't wait for them to not pick up his fifth year option. I can't wait for them to cut him after year three. Pick his end. I'll say, uh, Pinie out Mitchell here. You think he's Mitchell?

I think it's Terry Arnold. I think it's one of the two. I think you go corner. I want to know what kind of schemes they run defensively, though. I think it's Mitchell. You think it's Mitchell? I think it's Mitchell. Do they run more zone or man?

I don't know. Then I refuse to answer. Pre-draft, I felt like there was more buzz around Mitchell. There was a lot of buzz around Mitchell. He's got his better athletic profile. I feel like teams probably think they can mold him. His size is really nice. I know.

I know. And Ball State. Hey, don't be hating on the Mac. I love some good match. Tim Arnold played Malik Neighbors. I know. And Isaac to Sla. And he got burned by the league neighbors a couple times.

Once or twice. The pick is in, we are waiting. Who is this? Who do we think? The Vikings get J.J. McCarthy. Without trading anything. Without having to do very much. They did have to trade.

They traded up one pick. Okay. You know what I meant? They didn't have to trade a first round pick. Yeah. Their other first round pick. They didn't trade up to pick five. Yeah, they still have their other first round pick to get probably a very good

defensive player. I'm just saying you could have gave me 100,000 guesses. I don't think I'd ever guess this order. Of quarterbacks? Just as far. Just none of it. This picks in order. The liberal media really had me thinking that J.J. McCarthy was going to go above Michael Panix.

I think I had the correct ranking of quarterbacks, guys. Can we check it back? I cannot. I think you did. I mean, none of them panned out yet, right? We don't know if I had the correct ranking of them being drafted. Yeah. And I did my.

in five minutes without looking at anything. Without watching any film. I'm gonna pull it up. Apparently the strategy is just don't watch film. Maybe that's what these gems are doing. That's what the Broncos do. You had Bo Nix over J-J-J-J-J.

Oh, here, here, no, Colts are gone. I flipped just Nixon, JJ. Everything else was raining. Colts are going. Colts pick. Boy, on to, Law, too. All right. All right. Edge gang.

First defensive player off the board. I think he was the best edge player in this draft. I agree. Was he the best defensive player? player in the draft? Maybe. That's hard. It's hard to compare corners to edge rushers.

What do you mean? Honestly, he wouldn't have fallen this far if not for the neck injury. Gabe, you had... Oh, sorry. Go on. Oh, that's all that's it. That's all I was going to say.

Sorry, I'm looking at the quarterback rankings. You had bone X over Michael Panix and JJ McCarthy. I would have changed that since then, but yeah. Yeah, I stand by. I know what it says. All right. Spencer Rattler needs to be the next one off the board. Latu is the...

And then Jordan Travis. The most polished pass rusher, I think. Like, he's got the best handwork and the best arsenal of moves to play with. The downside is his, you know, he's not that big of a guy's frames, not that great compared to, you know, the elite of elite past rushers with those super long arms. Even like, yeah, like Jared Verst is probably built a little bit better than Latu is. Right. He's not like the athlete that the Bosa brothers are, but I think he's got that sort of, you know, polish and maturity.

Yeah, his bend isn't like crazy, but his hand fighting's better. And I mean, you can't discount the fact, yeah, this guy was told after a neck injury that he needed to retire and that his football career was done and he basically didn't accept that, had fusion surgery in his neck, went to all different kinds of specialists. And part of the reason he ended up at UCLA

was because the head doctor there was one of the doctors working with him that eventually cleared him and said it was safe from the play against. So, I mean, this guy went through hell and back to get back on the field. He's got a spinal fusion? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He does.

He does. Yeah. So, I mean, but, like, that's the thing. Teams are looking at, like, he may not play, you know, you know, six, seven years in the NFL. Who knows? But to look at. As he plays five. To look at what he's overcome so far, it says a lot about the guy.

Yeah. He was my favorite address. He was probably my favorite defensive player overall, but like I said, it's hard to compare corners to edge rushers. First defensive prospect, though, at pick number 15. That's crazy. It's crazy. And still, no corners off the board. Comparison?

Trey Hendrickson. Yeah, short arms. That's the knock on Trey Hendrickson is he gets reached, like, pretty bad on the edge because he doesn't have the arms to. Also has no drip. You're always wearing those sleeves with no gloves. Dude, he's insane. What's he doing out there? He's saying the foulest things his brain can conjure.

He's got that Cal McNally swag. We talked about that a long time ago. All right, Seahawks around the clock. I thought the Seahawks were going to take an edge rusher. They still definitely could, but you got one off the boards. I mean, yeah, what do you think in Dallas Turner? You're looking at Dallas Turner or Jared Verst. They won't take a corner.

They like bigger guys, usually, I would say. They like bigger guys usually, so I wouldn't be surprised if they took first over Turner. I would probably take Turner first, especially for what they need. They probably need a better pass rusher. But I don't know. Either one, still a great pick. I mean, you're sitting at 16 looking at two of the top three defensive ends in the class right now. This has been fun, man.

Since pick eight, things just kind of went crazy. Things blew up. Anybody else got any thoughts on the Seattle Seahawks? I still need to know what the... what the Falcons were smoking. There was some serious Joker gas in that room. Hey, dude, it's like impractical jokers. All right, now take Michael Pennings.

All right, Terry. Rahim, you got to go up there and to run the card. Run the card. It's got Michael Penix written on it. Sprint the card. Hurry, you're running out of time. Murray, Murray, we got to get a look at Kirk's face. Oh, my God. Oh my gosh.

Yeah, that was the impractical Joker's pick of the night. That was great. I know. All right. Is Seattle... Is it defense or offensive line? Do they take... Who's the last guy from Washington?

You don't need an offensive tackle. You need an inside guy if you're taking an office line. Okay, you think Jackson Powers... But I don't think they will go. I mean, they took their two tackles in the same draft. I can't remember their names, but... They were Charles something, for some reason I have Charles Wooden. You never remember names of Seahawk players.

This is ridiculous. Anytime we talk about the Seahawks, you're like, oh, it's that guy. These are the same guys we talked about last week that I couldn't remember their names. I know. Charles Cross and Abraham. Okay, wait, wait, hold up. They're both drafted in the same year. Evan, we're getting the numbers here.

It seems like the previous record was seven players. Wow. So the fact, yeah, we went 14 straight offensive players. That is a record by far. by far. Yeah, they just doubled the record. That's crazy. Good math, Dan.

He's on fire today. Oh, I'm going to take a step out. Anybody else want to get on this mic? All right. Trevor, go ahead, get back in here. Like I said, Seahawks probably looking for an edge player. You have both your tackles. You have a pretty good DB room trying to put together a new Legion of Boom.

You do kind of need a strong safety, but safeties are not that good in this class. Just straight up. Just not. So the pick is in. The pig is in. And so they won't be trading away. They will not.

So defensive tackle, defensive line, I don't know. But I don't, I think it has to be D-Line. I don't even know where else they'd go. Yeah, I don't. Anybody else? Who's picking again? Doesn't matter who they pick. The Seahawks are picking, man.

They are going to lose to the Lions this year. I know that Back 7 is already kind of crowded. Like, they've got, you know, Tariq Wulin and Devon Wether Spoon already, but that back seven would be on lock for the next five years if they took one of these two corners and uh they have uchenna nuwsu he did pretty good at edge this year i'm pretty sure i think he was like 10 or 11 sacks this year so i don't know maybe they want a guy opposite of him but yeah i don't know what are the seahawks uh who they have at safety so you just lost uh what's is what's the blitzer jemal adams didn't he or no julian loit

Blitz Boy? Blitz boy. One of the two left. It was either Julian Love or Jamal Adams. Okay. The other one is still there. Quondry Diggs? They still have...

Was it Quondry Diggs that left? I don't know. He's gone. Then he left. Then they still have our Julian Love. Adams is not a safety. Tomol Adams. Okay.

So... Do we got any big safeties in this draft, Mick? No. No. The safeties, none of them are first round guys. Okay. I don't think there'll be any safeties in the first round. Okay.

There's one guy, borderline. Minnesota, Tyler Nubin, he's pretty good. But really no superstars at safety. Okay. It's a really interesting spot. I actually kind of thought they were going to trade down if they weren't going to take an edge. But again, who's trading up at this point?

What does their trade up for? Lions trade up for a corner. Eagles trade up for a corner. They're really far away. I don't think they're going to have to. Yeah, why would you need to trade? That's true. That's true.

You don't need a trade up right now. I don't think the lions have to trade up. Maybe the Eagles trading up for the pick. They do trade up, though. We're talking about the lions? Yeah. If they do trade up, they would get their number one pick at corner. So that's kind of what you're trading up for it,

if you really like a guy more than any of the other ones. Yeah, but I mean... I wouldn't do it. No. I feel like we'd have to give up too much and not... Whoa, whoa, whoa. Who's Josh Allen? Oh, Max, obviously.

But, you know, I'm with you. I wouldn't trade up. I don't think the reward is big enough for that. I agree. I don't think you can go wrong with Edge either this year for like I know I know we're talking defense You can't go wrong with Google either They could go for Fautano here too

His college O line coach is like with Seattle right now You think they they move him to guard though Because their tackles are really good If they I don't know I was just pointing out that connection That's true And a lot of the times, you know, that's a big deal in the college.

But we just had our resident Packers fan. It's so hot in here, put on a Bill's jersey. Oh my God. He's Mr. Josh Allen now. Yeah, it's fitting him like it is actually Josh Allen's jersey, too. Yeah, he's just as big as Josh Allen. No. All right.

Here we go. Just look him up in the Hillstale roster. Logan Vending and Vort. All the ladies that are listening, he's just as tall as Josh. Just as tall. Same build. Same build. Just as well.

Yeah. Going to go to the NFL. He's up there with Josh Allen. You hear that, Evan M. Yeah. Our one listener. Evan M. Yes.

All right, the pick is in. Are they walking up to the... No, we're watching a military commercial right now. Yeah, so be quiet. It's moving. Be quiet. I have to read the subtitles. He can't get a nice dash.

You can't read it. Listen at the same time. Are you joining the military now? This commercial, I mean, if I get to fly in A10, maybe. No. Very patriotic. It's not very convincing. Got to fight for America.

Well, they're all Seahawks fans, too, apparently, so I think I'm good. All right, so if you're just joining us, you listen to Radio Freelstale, 101.7 FM, as we've had a lot of quarterbacks taken early in this first round, and currently the Seahawks are up to pick. I picked 16. Only one defensive player off the board. Liatu Latu, Latu by the Colts in the last pick, making it a record number of 14 offensive players taken in a row. All right, Mike. Seattle pick is.

Mickey Hogs, selection. Mike's in, bro. Don't pick is in? Big Raj is talking. Big Raj is probably getting booed. Hodgepodge, no, he's thinking the military, so I hope they're not booning him right now. Yeah. Yeah.

Think it's not booing him after they're done. Okay, all right Byron Murphy Byron Murphy All right Defensive line That is a sweaty man That one stinks

Oh that is a sweaty man Right before That one is nervous Two picks before the Bengals got to go That was That was who I really wanted That is a This guy's a dog

A big or sloffle This guy is a dog And I'm sorry I'm sorry for you Dan I'm really am Because this would have been a really good replacement for DJ Reader. I'm just getting really nervous that the Bengals are going to take Fautano.

Why are you nervous? Because I don't want him. Okay, that's fair. All right. He's old. He's got, you know, people are projecting him to play guard, but he's never played guard in his life. So, like, what is the long-term prospects there? I don't know.

That is good at Gar. Yeah, as a very experienced guy, why would you want to move inside? Right? I agree. After so many years of tackle? Well, because you're good enough to and they need you to? Yeah. And you're just a good enough athlete.

But the Bengals need another tackle. Isn't that what Ely was talking about earlier? Right. That's what I'm saying. Oh, you're right. Ely said, oh, trade. The Vikings trade. Did they trade up?

Or is that their pick? The Vikings trade? No, it's their pick right now. They're trading down. Fikings are trading down. Who are they trading with? No, no, no. They just traded up.

They just traded up with who. That was Jacksonville's pick. Oh, with Jags. Oh, who are they taking? Oh, I'm sorry. I've been looking at this. Who do they want to undercut? Probably for an edge player.

They're trying to undercut a... You want Dallas Bengals? You want Dallas. Vatano. Please take Faltano to the Bengals camp. Offense tackle. Anthony Fantano here. If you just had like a sussle line, right, didn't they? They're a line had some impost.

on it for sure. Yeah, you know. It was definitely not the best. All right, let's see this. 17 to 23, 5th. All right. All right. Is the pick in?

That hurts the pick is in. That doesn't really hurt the Vikings this year. The pick is in. Mick, the pick is in. So what do they trade down? The Mick is in. The Mick is in. They traded, hey, they traded a fifth round pick this year.

So the Jags got a fifth round pick, and they got a third and a fourth round pick next year from the Vikings. And the Vikings traded up. up six picks. All right. So, I don't know. All right. Give up a third to pick six picks.

Let's see. Six picks. Spencer Rattler? That you said it. Quarterback. That would be crazy. You got to have another quarterback, just in case. That'd be crazy.

Just a case. Cooper Gijian? I don't hate that, actually. But I don't think you jump the, I do not think you jump the back. He would have fallen into your lap. They drafted J.J.C. McCarthy again. Oh my Dallas Turner

Wow that is a nice looking suit That is a nice looking suit That is a good bag Automatically You don't see that color A lime I'm sorry Dan but Don't

Just pray for me Silently to whatever God you worship That The Bengals don't take Falano here because I will have some Unprofessional things to say On 101 7 Radio Free

No Don't worry I'm standing by to take away Dan's mic, if need be. Or Dan. Just keep the dump button hot because Faltoni was bad news for everyone in this room.

I might move farther away. We have we have back to back to back defensive players, all defensive linemen picked. Two D.Ns, one D tackle. The last three picks. And now we're looking at the Bengals

who just lost DJ Reader. They're big D.N. D-tackle. The guy who some people ranked as the number one D-tackle is still on the board. Jared's on Newton. I would love Newton. I would be ecstatic. You still have the other edge rusher.

Jared First is still on the board. I would be thrilled with Mims or Newton here. But I'm also not in the war room threatening people with a loaded weapon. So I don't really have much control. Do we look at this description? Rare length and a loose rusher. Who was they describing? Dallas Turner?

Yeah, they are describing Dallas Turner. What was your, who was his profile, would they say? Rare length. You don't see his length very often. No, you don't. That would make it rare. His height. Yeah.

It's length. Length, length is long. Yeah. Long arms are important. They're so important. You got to create space from the offensive linemen. You do. It's a good way to get disengaged.

Yes, of course. Thanks, Trevi. Yeah, people don't know. That's what we're talking about. Yeah, I'm an edge. Trevor... Trevor plays edge. You just had medium-like.

Trevor plays edge. Man, what a snappy, what a snappy color on him. Good, it does work. The kids are out. Good size on the lapels there. We're bringing back the experience. Quality color. Really big glasses.

Gabriel and I stepped out at the same time. Might have been a mistake. Definitely a mistake. We dropped it. We dropped our viewership by 50%. One person got off to here. Started getting a different kind of viewership. What, did Evan M stop, half, stop watching?

No, Evan M's still listening. Evan M's got to be. Evan, could you please give us a rundown of the past couple picks just to... Me, Evan, or the other Evan M? No, you. You, Evan M. All right, so the last couple picks, we've got Brock Bowers at tight end. Out of...

For the Raiders. Pick 13 to the Las Vegas Raiders. I think that Gabriel really wanted to be. here. I was super excited about it. Out of Oregon State for the New Orleans Saints, offensive tackle. And then back to back to back defensive players.

Also the first defensive player off the board here. Lattu Latu out of UCLA to the Colts. Then Byron Murphy, the second out of Texas to the Seattle Seahawks. And Dallas Turner out of Alabama to the Minnesota Vikings. So three defensive linemen, only defensive players off the board.

All the corners still on the board and which is looking pretty good for the Detroit line. Lions. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Well, the Lions have a ways to go. Yeah, but there's, they could still trade up and, you know, I think the Eagles will take a corner. But other than that, either way, corners falling for the Lions is a good thing. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think Eagles, Eagles are a primary team to take corner. Yeah, no corners off. Other than that, I don't really see a team early here that really corner is their biggest need. I wonder when we will see a wide receiver off the

board again. You mean when the lines trade up with the Bengals and take Brian Thomas Jr? Please, please. I'm begging anything to happen. I think Dan would be okay with that. As long as they are you, what are you wanting you? Fittano, obviously. Absolutely not.

What is it about him that you don't like? Okay, he's, he's old. Okay. And he has no anchor. He's experienced. He's experienced, right, but he's old. He has no anchor and he's undersized, and people are already projecting him to kick inside to guard.

And you guys... You guys don't want a guard. You don't want a guard in the first round? Preferably not a guard that doesn't have an anger. I wouldn't... I would be fine with Jackson Powers Johnson over... Yeah, if you were going for a guard,

I feel like you'd have to take an actual... Would you... So you would much rather take a chance on a prospect like Mims or... Who's the Oklahoma guy? Guyton? Guyton? On a tackle prospect,

who's maybe less experienced, you know, quote unquote raw, you'd rather have one of those guys than Fonon. I think Fononu smells a lot like Jackson Carmen from a couple drafts ago. Not a great athlete. Stinky. Projected to move in at guard. Then when he gets to guard, he doesn't have the anchor to play there. So that's, it's, it would be a train wreck if that happened.

I would be thrilled with Newton or either of the corners at this point. a trade back, anything to keep me out of that situation. Because I've seen the Bengals draft players like this before and it's never worked out. Yeah. So you are listening to our coverage of the NFL draft, the first round here on Radio Free Hillsdale 101.1.1.7 FM. We are currently on pick number 19. 19. Pick 19. It's 10.13 p.m. I know time is flying. Oh, my God. I'm having a great time though. This is the most fun I've had watching a draft.

I think so too This is the most I've had ever Probably because I haven't had to listen to I haven't had no friends This is my fun I haven't had to listen to Mel Kiper Jr. once It's great

This is nice I only listen to my own takes Through the headphones I listen to that replay what I say It's awesome I feel like such an expert I kind of want to go back One of my favorite draft moments of all time

Was when Johnny Mansell Was falling down the board And John Gruden couldn't believe it He was like Somebody's gonna get a great great player with this guy. I can't make any sense of this. Why is this guy falling down the board?

Spider-2-Wy banana. I love it. I love that clip. Gruden's grinders. Little did we know that those were the least controversial things that John Gruden was saying. Come on. He didn't have that much to say.

His Johnny Mansell takes were the least of our worries. Oh, boy. Are we back yet? We still in a commercial break? Are they in? Yeah. This is quite a... Watching a sea turtle on YouTube.

Let me enjoy the Zen. courtesy of YouTube TV before my whole entire night is ruined. They are taking their time, Dan. Hashtag not sponsored. They're trying to, that's my concern. They may try to trade back. Maybe they feel like their guy, they can get them later. Nope, the pick is in.

The pick is in. Never mind. Oh, boy. They are indeed not trading back. Don't spoil this for me either. Stay off Twitter. I'm closing the computer. Don't blow this for us, Gene.

All right. The Bengals pick number 18. Each of you, each of you fans got your, got your pick. Well, you get to announce you know that yet. You get to announce it, Dan. It's all you.

Dan, you have the floor. All right. It's all you, Dan. I guess that was a little... They haven't made a bit yet. Dead silence. How is Jonah? How is Jonah Williams done since they took him?

Oh. Oh. Zach Moss. Have you seen that meme? Mike Keseki? It's Joe Burrow throwing it to Jamar Chase. It's like a drawing.

but it's him getting sacked. With him getting sacked. And then it's him and then Pente Soule and then anybody else. Yeah, I remember that one. And there's the remake of the meme where it actually happened in the Super Bowl? Where he's throwing to Pena Soule and it's anybody blocking him. Oh. Yeah, that's not what I was talking about.

Oh, never mind. I was just thinking about how like this. I remember that was a Cincinnati Bengals meme. Because I remember seeing it in the Super Bowl. I was like, hey. You know, looking back, I think that they were just going to find a way to disparage the Bengals regardless of who they took. That was the whole point of that meme.

The other thing was, was, uh... Well, I think the point was that they have no offensive line. I know. They've had no offensive line for... All right, everybody be quiet. This is for day. Here we go. Give it a real M&M type performance here. I got sweaty palms.

Gidel's walking up. Are your knees weak? I'm sitting down, thankfully. Is there if I'm about on your sweater already? There's about to be getting. All right, make relax. Hey, that's all I know. Yes.

All right. Okay. Are you going to tell people what just happened? Yes, you're listening to 101.7 Radio Free Hillsdale and the Cincinnati Bengals just took Amarius Mims. Great prospect. Out of Georgia. Yes.

So the biggest problem with Mims is that he only has, what, nine starts in college? Eight starts in college. Look at this big nasty boy go to work. I'm going home with a big fella tonight. This guy, I mean, he's. he's built like a Greek god he's 6-7-340 he's a mountain he's a mountain of a man this is truly a hit or yeah i mean he's either he's either going to be i think he's either going to be really good or i mean they are they are drafting him into the perfect situation he doesn't have to play i i think

he should play right away he can sit behind trent brown though if he had if need be if need be but i i really do think like a lot of the tape suggests that he's got really good polish to him already he just i was going to say the yeah the the issue with him is not the that the tape is bad. It's just that there's not much of it. He only has, I think he started six games this past year at right tackle, but it's not like, it's not like you're watching the tape and it's like, oh my gosh, this guy looks like he's, you know, learning how to play football for the first time.

Right. And it's, with O lineman especially, I don't think you need as big of a sample size to say whether or not a guy projects well. Like I compared to, you know, receiver or something or quarterback. Like, I think given the small sample size, he looks like he could be a really good player. He definitely projects well already. Well, for your sake, Dan, I'm glad that they did not send you into cardiac arrest.

Thank you for humoring me there. Boys, that was a big moment. That's good. All right. He's kind of the definition of raw, though. You're all right, Dan? Bringing a tear to your eye. That's going to do it for me for at least the next...

That was some crazy energy. Dan is a break. Mary Smith is a tackle. Somebody sub-Dan. There we go. Dan's happy. Oh, now he goes.

Oh, my gosh. If you could see the sweat stain on Dan's chair right now. And Logan just sat in it. Oh, and with the first pick, the first round picks, it's 20, what, 16? This is the first time Sean McVeigh is at a first round pick as a head coach. Think of how long he's been the coach there. Is the pick in? He's never had a bust in the first round, though.

You are under three minutes and the pig is not in, Mr. Make. Well, they need defense. They also need offensive line. They need a lot. They got a lot of needs. I think Newton. I think Newton. What if they take Xavier Worthy?

Newton's big. They don't need receiver. No way would they take Xavier Worthy. Listen to me. Listen to me. They could. Peter Schrager works at NFL Network, close friends with Sean McVeigh. He said, basically hinted as like, you think Sean McVeigh is not going to take an offensive player with his first, first round pick in history?

I hope he does. I'm just saying it might. It might just be, you know, he maybe just have his buddy Schrager, you know, putting that out there to take teams, you know, off of what he really wants to do. Are they at the bar? It looks like they're at the bar right now. But this guy's wearing a Texas sweatshirt. This random kid is wearing a Texas sweatshirt. That looks like in the war room.

A weird, like, 15-year high school reunion. No, you know what they did? But he's wearing a Texas sweatshirt. They are drafting Xavier worthy. The Rams have turned their draft HQ. It was a $16.6 million dollar mansion that they rented out. And they completely. customized it and did everything all Rams and that's what they're using to as their war room.

Really? It literally looks like a bar. So it's just a draft house? It's a draft house. What is this? Oh my God. This looks cool. Is that in the desert? They put a field on the beach. What? How does that work? Is that 100 yards? Chat, is this real? Chad, is this real? They are just begging to get fans. What did they just did they put like a? That's not so far. That's crazy. It's not so far. Yeah. They put a field on the beach. I don't is, is, did they? Meanwhile, the Chargers I saw that earlier today. It's legit.

Meanwhile, the Chargers have a have a fake fan that they pay money. It's Xavier Worthy. That one woman. I don't think we talked about that enough from the show. If it's going to be offense, it's got to be offensive. It won't be a receiver. I don't think it will be, but it would be crazy if it was.

I don't think we're going to see any more receivers. A trench man. It's going to be, if it's going to be off. Oh, we'll see another runoff. You don't think another receiver for the rest of the first round? Logan, go ahead. I don't know if we're going to see a receiver or another receiver. or another receiver in the first round.

I think we have too much talent on the board on both sides of the ball. That's not a bad point, but I think Buffalo is going to go to receiver. I think Buffalo needs a receiver. But you know who really needs a receiver? The Detroit Lions who will jump the bills with the Cardinals for a sixth-thor-on-pick

and take Brian Thomas Jr. Or the bills are going to take Adonai Mitchell and the Lions are going to get Brian Thomas Jr. If Brian Thomas Jr. is on the board when the Lions pick guys, I honestly think they might take them. I'm not going to lie. I know it's been, it seems like, it's been a joke. There's not been a corner

off the board though. No. Can we take a second? No corners off the board. And there will be no more corners until the Packers take Cooper's Eugene. The first corner off the board? I'm excited. It'll probably be the Eagles. Cooper is the first corner off the board. I don't know. Also the first white corner off the board.

The Eagles need a corner. He has a first joke, I just you would rather have Brian Thomas Jr. over a corner after watching our season last year? No, no, no, my whole thing was, my whole thing was based off of what if the top three corners aren't there? What if there's a run on like edge players or something like that?

So it's kind of like a wishy-washy thing. You know, the lions are right behind Buffalo. They could easily jump Buffalo by one or two draft picks, right? I mean, they could do that. And when have the Lions ever listened to the projections? Yeah, that's fair. They picked Jimere Gibbs when I thought they were going to take Christian Gonzalez. And I think Brian Thomas would add, it's a wide receiver niche that they don't have cover right now.

You have James and Williams running and just taking the top off the defense. Yeah. Amunrah working the slot. And then you have just more of a like a, and LaPorter work in the slot more. And then you kind of just have an all-round receiver in Brian Thomas. It would just, it would make their, uh, Jared Verst. Okay. They took Jared Verst.

They took an edge. So you're looking for some more defensive line pressure. So much more Sean McVeigh going offense with his first pick. I think that's kind of smart Especially with losing Aaron Donald He's yeah He uh Jared versus really really fast off the line Okay

He's a little bit on the bigger side A bully is how he is Is that what they're saying? Will Anderson Jr. comparison He's he's bigger Versus a guy who loves the bull rush Like if he's beating you with a bull rush He's just going to do that over and over again

There you go Here it is First clip Look him off the line Can he do that though? Wow Is he going to be able to do that to offensive attack In the NFL, that's the question.

That's the question. He does a Taylor. I mean, you're going to, unless he has, like, otherworldly strength, like Khalil Matt kind of strength, you're going to have to develop more pass rush moves than just the bull rush. But even that kind of strength, I don't, like, you still can't consistently bullrush. Nobody can just bullrush. There's no O-line that is going to get consistently bullrushed.

He's also a really good run stopper. Because he's just a bull rush guy. So we got the Steelers on the clock right now. Because he's so big. Oh, my kid. He can play a little. But I'd decackle too if they need them too. You know, I think I take back what I was saying about the receivers.

I think I take it back. Because you think the Pittsburgh Steelers can totally take a receiver. No, I don't think they're going to take a receiver. I'm stuck on Xavier Worthy. And I think your comments on Buffalo had me thinking. And I think Buffalo would be a good favor of Z. I think with the massive arm that Josh Allen has, if he can put it over the top. That could be fun.

That could be a lot of fun. That is a good point. I think Buffalo. As much as I like Xavier Worthy a lot, I think they're going to be looking at like a traditional X-receiver, like a bigger guy, bigger, like they got Brian Thomas Jr. Adonite and I Mitchell, Brian Thomas Jr.

Or Brian Thomas are the big two. If either those two guys are on the board, I think they would go with one of those two. So right now, for reference, everybody's slumming it in Detroit and probably freezing because it's not, well, it's kind of chilly. It's kind of chilly. And then the draft party in Los Angeles is on the beach.

Like, awesome. That's insane. The charges draft party is at the Motel 6, two blocks inland. Dude, remember when the Falcons took Michael Pennix Jr? For no reason. Well, here's the thing. Jared Verst just got picked by the Rams. I thought Jared Verst could have gone to the Falcons.

And that would have been a good fit. I did too. That's so why? Why did they take Michael Pennitz? I just saw a clip of, I think it was the Falcons coach explaining to the GM or the owner, why. He was like, they were visibly upset. The owner is like, what are you doing down there? What are the building in there?

I give you guys 10 minutes alone and you pick another quarterback. Wait, Ely is leaving, but the Cowboys are picking soon. Oh, man. We're going to have to call him back in. He's just walked out of the building. Now we have free reign to talk terribly about the Cowboys. Man, do I hate the Cowboys. I can't stand the Cowboys.

Nothing made me more. I've talked about this on the show a lot, almost as much as Gabriel's talked about the Raiders. but the instant karma that the Cowboys received for getting the two seed to just get absolutely waxed by the Packers. The one time where I was like, I love that the Packers are just whooping the Cowboys butt right now. Never ordered for the Cowboys. It was so awesome. But like just because Taylor Decker reported we won that game.

Oh my God. I was celebrating. And then I was just in shock and horror. Yeah. And guess what? It didn't work out for the Cowboys because then they got waxed by. the packers. And they got a worst pick because they were the number two seed.

Guys, we have one of those. Pick is in. That's a recording from Gabriel. Oh, yeah. Thanks, Mick. Did you just play it? Yeah, you just played it. Oh.

That's really good. No wonder it sounds so good. Yeah, no way you could have said that, Evan. All right. Wow. All right, here we go. What are we talking about, though? Pick is in, gentlemen.

Oh, wait. The Michael Panix Jr. thing? Yeah. Logan, what were you saying about that? The coach was having to explain it to the owner? Oh, yeah. The coach was? Was it Arthur Blank?

Yes. Oh, dude, he looks like a mob boss. That's got to be hilarious. Wait, is he the one that was like in favor of it? No, he looked, he looked upset. Like, he was standing there in his deep red suit, looking like a mob boss. I could just picture Arthur Blanks and he's like,

they're laughing at us right now. Everybody online is talking about us. With a laughing stock of the NFL. You take. I spend, who knows how much money on Kirk Cousins and you just do this on the day of my daughter's wedding? You disrespected me in front of the entire NFL community. I'm going to have to let you go. I don't take that lightly, lightly, Rahim.

With your next pick, I'm going to make you an offer. And that was our author, Arthur Blank impersonation as the pick is in. Ooh, night one record. You see that? 275. 275,000 fans in attendance in Detroit. Look at them. And they're all just trying on.

I mean, that makes me think that the NFL's rigged a little bit, that they made the Lions go so far because, you know, the Lions fans are showing out right now because once we had a good season. Can you imagine there will be a riot if the Lions trade out of the first round? This would be the year they do it, though. Totally would be the year. Can you be the fans? I'd be okay with that.

It'd be funny. I don't think they'll do it. I don't think Dan Campbell would do it. I think he loves the fans too much. He won't do that to them. But what about the fans, man? I think the Steelers are going to pick another QB. I think that's a thing.

Spencer Rattler. Spencer Rattler. What's Florida State's name? Florida State quarterback. Jordan Travis? Jordan Travis. Not going to be Joy. Yeah, they would take Jordan Travis.

No, that would be something that Steelers would do. Yeah. Undersized guy with a limited arm. We got some comments from Michael D. Okay. Got some questions here. All right. Okay.

Now listen. versus bad man You guys are awesome Worthy can fly Lions shouldn't take him though Golf can't throw to him If you ever So if you've ever experienced my negativity

On this show If you're an avid listener You know that I'm super negative about the Lions Even though they had a really good season I will still be a more positive Fan than my dad forever It doesn't matter how negative I am Do you have the clip from Thanksgiving

or did you not clip that? Yeah, I do. I do have it. All right. Wait. After the Steelers are about to make a pick. Yeah, what's the Steelers pick? We can play that clip because that's a great club.

I'm just glad Michael D. shares the same excitement about Xavier Worthy that I do. Oh, he says the Lions fans wouldn't care if they trade it out. I think that they would. I think the fans there would. I think they would care. The people there wouldn't care. I don't know if I would love it.

I don't know if I would love it. Lions traded back in the first round last year. If one of the three corners is on the board, I think I would be upset. They're all gone. Cameron Hayward may even out. That's fair. That's fair. Was that true?

That this is the first, first round pick that the Steelers have had since 2019? No. There's no way. They pick Kenny Pickett. Oh, yeah. Why would they only put that up? They said this is their recent first round picks and it was only the one for 2019. Because Kenny Pickett is no longer on their team.

Oh, yeah. I think it's the ones I still on their team. That's fair. Because Kenny Pickett is bad. Cam Hayward is it was he did he win Walter Payton man of the year or something is that why they're bringing him up I actually think he did He's so handsome He's a good look that's a nice suit

I like that nice color It's not a steeler color I think he could have a better tie Is that teal oh oh oh oh oh hold on from M Doherty for Michael Oh sorry Michael D well I guess I just sold the sold the bag on that one Lions are trading up book it Okay Interesting take

I got to say I don't know if he's been listening to enough to listen to the Brian Thomas to talk, but we'll talk about that after the Steelers before we play that clip. Cameron Hayward. He knows. Good guy. Good guy. Oh, to take Arnold or McKinstree, boo. I don't think I agree with that. Where does

Pittsburgh go? Listen, I would love it if they trade it up for one of those guys at this point. They could with Miami. I do trust Brad Holmes. They could get in front of Philly. They could get in front of Philly. He might not be wrong about the fans, just not being upset because I think everybody collectively just He's got a pretty big safety net. Yeah.

More so than 90% of GMs. Yeah. Who? Brad Holmes? Brad Holmes? Oh, easily. At least. All right, he's talking too much.

Hey, hey, he's a good guy. I know, I know. He's the man of the year. He's the best guy. I'm not wrong. That is the point of the award. So, Evan, turn around and wipe that one clean. Here we go.

Here we go. Ooh. Congratulations, Troy Fontanu. You are going to get CTV. Dude, but I mean, look at this guy. You can't help but be happy for this guy. I love when they cry. Listen.

Oh, my God. I'd be in tears. This is a guy that just quality guy. Dan was running him down because he didn't want the Bengals to take him. That doesn't mean he's not a really freaking good player. I like Troy Fonton. I feel like as a Bengals fan, he's got to be pretty excited that the guy he didn't want goes to a rival, right?

I think it's going to be funny if down the road, Troy Fontonoo becomes like one of the the best linemen in the NFL. Yeah, size-wise, he definitely probably going to be moved to guard. How tall is he? Just under 6-4. The Steelers 6-3 and 3 quarters, probably going to be a guard.

He's got a pretty good balance, though. Look at it. He's missing, like, oh, wow. All right. Got some power. The hand fighting is what scares me a little bit. It's usually not that good. Oh, boy, I got a call. Hold up. I got to, somebody mute my mic. Now, I can do that.

Okay. there have been questions about the aggressiveness of Fondu Are you just reading the draft report in front of you? No, no, I... He actually doesn't have a draft report in front of him. I got inside sources from Daniel Sutherington. Just repeating the same.

Saying that Fononon do not have the rage to be dominant. Yeah? The way that... Dude, are the Packers going to get the number one corner on the board? The Steelers, Cooper, DeChi. You are a Green Bay Packer. The Lions could get Cooper. I'd love it.

Now, what is Miami? Because Miami needs O-Line. Miami needs to take whoever they feel like the top guys? Do you take Jackson? Who is Jackson? Jackson, Powers Johnson is good. The Duke guy's a good player, too, but also probably a guard. He played tackle in college, but probably going to be a guard.

Michael D. is loving that we're referencing him. You're the only one that we know. What is Bob saying? What is Bob saying? You referencing me as cracking my stuff? We can fill that in. Stuff up. Graham Barton is the Duke guy.

Everybody's projecting him as an interior. Pick is in already for the dolphins. Wow. That was quick. That was quick. Well, to be fair, they were on the clock once the pick was in. I feel like Miami's got to be O-line or defense. What is their back seven looking like?

What if they take? You still have Ramsey. What if they take Xavier worthy? Van Ginkle. Yo. That would be insane. What if they just take Xavier worthy? And they just keep low.

They just have the seven fastest guys in the NFL on one off. This is a track team out there. Braxton Barrios never touched the field. I would not. Honestly, I bet if it was up to McDaniel, that's what he would do. There's just no way. The GM is probably going to step in and be like, we need linemen. Honestly, you make a good point.

I think Mike McDaniel is probably licking his chops. He's the kind of guy, like, just give him to me. Okay, but I kind of disagree because I don't think Mike loves seeing his quarterback almost die like three times a season. I don't think he cares. I do think he's way more excited to just send somebody to watch a track team out there running 400. Imagine this.

You have in front of the quarterback, fake jet sweep to Tyree Kill, turn around, hand off the end around to Xavier Worthy going the opposite direction. Defense is going on all directions. And then they do that. Fake the end around and then just throw a bomb to Jaylon Wajon. It's a beard in the back. It slams his head on the turf. But it looked really cool.

His body is frozen Slamped on the ground Looks really cool And Devon A already beat them all to the end zone So with Michael D Listening I don't know if we can play that clip But you can play it anyway It'll be funny

I think you'll find a play Depending on the mood he's in Play that clip This is right after the Lions Got embarrassed by the Packers on Thanksgiving No this is a tradition I'm sorry I don't have that one Oh you don't have that one

No I only have the best Sorry Happy Thanksgiving Happy Thanksgiving Unless of course Unless of course the Lions lost, in which case, what a horrible Thanksgiving. That's what I have. That's what happened, unfortunately.

And then they lost, so it was a pretty bad Thanksgiving. But it's okay, because... I'm the greatest NFL analyst ever. I predicted Pennix Jr. He did. No, I told you to clip that for when the Lions trade up. So for Michael D, who was saying that the Lions are going to trade up for a corner, no, they're actually going to trade up and take Brian Thomas Jr.

from LSU, a crazy receiver. prospect just to add to their offense. But at this point they're not doing it. They are not going to do it at this point. There's way too many good defensive

players still on the board. So I take it back. The dolphins need offensive line. Their defensive edge rushers, they kind of just ran out of them last year, but that was more because of injuries. Jalen Phillips was pretty good. They traded for Bradley Chubb earlier in the year.

So it's probably an offensive lineman. Maybe a corner if you want somebody I don't know who's the opposite Ramsey anymore. Xavier and Howard's gone. I know. I don't know where, I don't know who is. For a team,

for a playoff team, they kind of have a lot of spots they could go here. I mean, yeah, offensive line, interior defense. I mean, they just lost Christian Wilkins.

Yeah, you could go interior defense. Interior defensive line. Maybe. I mean, what's his name? The second. From the Illinois guy.

Yes. His name escapes me right now. Me too. Jared's on Newton Newton. Newton's still on the board so that wouldn't be a bad pick either but I think I think the pick is offensive line

you think it's Jackson Powers Johnson or Grand Barton yeah I mean I think you gotta protect your quarterback better than you have they're just building the track team out there I think they built it enough not just protect the quarterback

but also yeah help out your run blocking scheme a little bit I mean they did a good job of masking the offensive line last year just because they get the ball out of to his hand so fast but you definitely would like to have some more

some more depth there. Jackson Powers Johnson's player cop is probably like Jason Kelsey not because he's the same type of player but because he's a speed he likes to be out in space and he likes to be blocking. Yeah that's probably the kind of guy they would want. Exactly. It's also the kind of guy the Eagles

would want next which was the only reason they wouldn't take a corner. Yeah. To replace Jason Kelsey. Mike Daniel kind of looks like Michael D. I'm just going to put that out there, just in case anybody was wondering. Kind of gives me the same vibes. How do you know what Michael D looks like? What I imagine him to look like.

Based off of his takes? Yeah. Hey, I found the episode. You want me to play it? You can play it. Yep, 100%. Okay. This is going to sound good.

It's going to sound so bad, probably. Since it's Wednesday, the wounds have healed a little bit. But once again, the lions get to destroy my family Thanksgiving. It's just a great tradition now. I was going to say. It's a tradition. Yeah, yeah, seven years. I mean, it wouldn't be Thanksgiving if my dad wasn't screaming angrily at the TV,

about to aggressively carve a turkey, way more aggressive than necessary. Because dinner hasn't even been served yet. And, I mean, happy Thanksgiving, everybody, you know. Yeah. I love the stat where, yeah, does anybody? That's basically it. Dolphins pick. Yeah, and they picked, are you guys having it yet?

Oh, job. I love it. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. The Eagles are going to get the top. The Eagles are going to get whatever corner they want. You know what? This makes me so happy because now that there's no corners off the board,

there's no way that Philadelphia is going to take Cooper de Gene, which is going to let him fall right into the Packers. If the top three corners get picked all in a row here, Cooper de Gene will still be on the board. Dallas won't take a corner. I'm just saying this is, hold up. Can we acknowledge, I mean. This is a reach.

A reach, but it's like Miami's standing. Limited production. Dang. My first round pick. Miami is staying true. to who they are just by getting an insanely fast player but on the defensive side of the ball. Chop Robinson, yeah, the athletic profile is crazy,

but the only way he beats tackles is with speed. I mean, watch this. The only way he can win is with speed. If you get hands on him, it's over. And he's not a great run stopper either. I don't know about this pick. I mean, I guess they feel like they can coach him up because the athleticism is there.

but the Eagles also I feel like that's a reach with the guys that are still on the board so we've talked about the Eagles taking a corner a lot but like you're sitting here you just lost your nine time all pro center and you have a guy

who plays just they've I don't I can't remember the guy's name but I feel like they already have a succession plan at center yes they have they they had a guy they drafted a few years ago who's been playing guard and now they want him to kick into center because Jason Kelsey was like heavily involved in drafting this guy and then training him.

So I don't think they're going to go. I don't think they're worried about, yeah, Jason Kelsey's replacement because he's already on the roster. Okay. I didn't know that. I think they're going to go defense. I think they're got, I think they have to go defense. You have to go corner then. Michael D says the lions will take their guy no matter what, even if it's a receiver.

That's what I'm saying. Bad pick from the dolphins, he says. All the dolphins care about his speed. That's all they care about. Well, it worked out for him a little bit. So who's the best players on the board available right now? At receiver, Edna Mitchell and Brian Thomas. You can name the top three corners just as the top three players still on the board.

I feel like Terry and Arnold Queen Ann Mitchell and Koolaid McKinster are three of the best players still on the board. I mean, this is crazy. It's not the best. Probably the best. I would have expected at least one team to read. I would show two wide receivers up there too. Cheers on Newton is out there still. Yeah, it's true.

I like, I like Newton a lot. I am surprised at Chopra. Geez. Darius Robinson is still on the board. So the other defensive linemen of the Missouri. Dan, do you have some opinions on this? Do you want to get on?

Okay. All right. Dan is, Dan is still tuckered out. He's smiling. He's still cooling off from from the torture that the Bengals put him through. Philly sports fan. He's right there.

The best fans on Earth. That guy's actually cool. said no one ever. Win, loser, draw. They always support their team. You know that there's actually, fun fact, there's a prison cell in Philadelphia Stadium

and a judge that can deliver a verdict on the spot. You're serious? Yes. Well, at least they're taking preventative measures. Yeah. I mean, what do you want? I mean, they're prepared. They know.

They know what's up. Still better than Dallas fans, to me. You live with a Dallas fan. You think you're going to get a fair trial and a Philadelphia at the link? you're not going to eat a fair trial at the link I mean look at the refs look at the ref calls this year

at the link are the Eagles looking at trade here hey you know who the judges I mean they are using this clock guys wait one minute left on the clock and they have not picked do you know who the judge is it's big dom

from the sideline you can't just bring that guy no they picked all right they were here the whole clock they were hearing trade offers though or they were like guys

the three corners that we wanted to take, they're all here. Which one do we take? Howie Roseman loves to move around the board, so I'm sure they were listening to calls. But you think so? Quinion Mitchell? We're thinking maybe Quinyon Mitchell,

maybe Terry and Arnold. Could be anybody. Could be anybody. I think it's, I think it's got to be a corner, though. The Jaylen, the Jalen Rieger pick from 2020 is a funny one. What was Howie Roseman doing?

He doesn't catch enough Before Justin Jefferson Justin Jefferson was on the board Oh no they're gone As we say goodbye to Connor and Trevor They were kicked off the mic And unfortunately never got back on

Probably a good thing Probably a good thing Now we've been talking a lot about a lot of players But I don't think we spend enough time on Michael Pennix going to the Falcons Oh no Can we talk about? Like what?

Why? Okay I think the biggest news of the draft is that how big of a distraction was Michael Pennix to the fact that Bo Nix went in the first round I know. You know the Broncos are pissed. And after all that

Brock Bowers fell to the Raiders. You know the Broncos are pissed. They're like, are you kidding me? Do you think they did that? We are the 12th overall picking. We get the sixth best quarterback in this draft. It's, I like, I have some sympathy for them because they have such

an obvious need of quarterback, but it's like, just don't take one. I just wouldn't have taken Bo Nix at 12. I would just bite the bullet. Trade back. I mean, I'm sure they tried. Maybe they, no, I bet they didn't try to trade back if they took a quarterback right there.

I would have tried to trade back with everything that I could. But, I mean, if history is any indication, yeah, this is just another bad quarterback pick. I think the air kicked on it because it's chilly all of a sudden. It is quite sure. And I'm happy. It was so hot.

It was really hot. It was really hot. we're in this Josh Allen jersey. Yeah, big Josh Allen guy over here. The pick is in. I'm over here in just a white t-shirt now. Who's on the clock? The Jags.

They traded back with the Vikings. Wait, the Eagles are on the clock. Did the Jacks just trade out? The Eagles pick is. No, no, no. We're waiting for the Eagles pick. Here's the thing. Jacksonville also needs a corner.

Yeah? Or a receiver. That's a good point. They could go either one. They could go Brian Thomas. No. We're at a night. Uh-uh.

No-uh. What if they trade back again? Maybe. Right. Good news. Coming out. Here comes. Here comes Roger.

All right. The pick is in. Philadelphia Eagles. At pick number 22, as you're listening to Outside Source Football on Radio Freehillsdale 101.1.1.7 FM is. Why do we turn the captions off? Is that on purpose?

That's not, yeah, you leave them off. Leave them off. It's fine. All right. What? Okay, Joe. That's, Oh, he's taking his time here at this pick.

Okay. Come on, Roger. Thankfully, because I just clicked off the screen. All right. He's getting booed too much. Well, yeah. Oh, my God. He is on the stage.

I'm sure the Eagles fans are being very classy. He's taking forever. As is tradition. Holy cow. Take it to a publisher. Oh, my God, Roger. What is he saying? So long.

Make the pick already. What is he doing? He's doing, he's doing Ted Cruz. He's reading green eggs and ham. Reading Dr. Seuss? He's filibustering. He's giving the Jacksonville Jaguars more time to make a pick. We haven't seen this kind of skew. Why is he filibustering the pick?

He is still going. What is he talking about? I'm sorry. I pulled up my computer. I still didn't have the pick. I saw the pick. I got it. I saw the pick. I got it. Don't say it. Okay. Well, I know who it is. Jordan Milata is now giving the pick from Australia. Why? What is this like some kind of keep our beaches clean? campaign? What are we doing here?

It's pretty rocky there. Why is this guy doing this? I don't know why Jordan Milat is doing it. It's Quinyon Mitchell. Alright. Wow. Damn. I haven't had my eyes on my phone for the last 10 minutes.

D South is him. Just based off the vibes. Dude, he looks mad. Why does Quinean Mitchell look? Oh, because he fell. The creases. It's past my bedtime, too. He was mocked to go way earlier.

Oh, my God. Well, smile, dude. You just got picked in the First round of the NFL draft. He was supposed to go top ten. Okay. Well, he's still making millions of dollars. I like this. Do you? Yeah, we got a corner here.

We can't have him be bothered by anything. Good or bad. I agree. He clearly is bothered. He clearly is bothered. He's upset. I think that's neutral. No, that ain't neutral.

It could be. That's sad. There goes corner number one, though. There goes corner number one. Corner number two is about to go off the board to the Jags. I just got a text from somebody who's at the draft. She says, Mitchell looks so depressed. She?

No. He. Sorry. Sorry to disappoint. I know. Always disappointing. When it comes to the Eagles fans booing, nobody booes quite like Michael D. Godell is the richest

loser in the entire world, $50 million a year to do what? That's his text directly to me. I don't know how he got my number. I don't know how this listener got her number, but. Goodell?

Dadeau. All right. Gadell smells. Goodella actually was talking. The reason he was talking so long is like, guys, Eagles fans, I don't know why you're, like, excited right now. We just saw you collapse. A pure collapse.

Okay, so... What am I looking at? Here might be the one problem for you, Logan. When we did our mock and the Jags picked at 17, we had the Jags taking... The guy out of Iowa. No. Cooper DeGine?

Cooper does he still good. No, because they could use more of an inside corner. They could use any Any playmaker DeGene is porn to play in Green Bay DeGine is a playmaker And that's what the Jags need From Michael D

Not even the best cornerback available Philly and their fans suck Who does he think the best corner Probably Terry I don't know I'm sure he'll text to me because he's listening Who do you think the best Corner is I think it's Arnold

I think it's Arnold Me and Gabriel both talked it over and we thought We kind of agreed on Arnold I think cool it. The experts of the National Football League. That's what matters. I'm making Gabriel Vondra. Lions are trading up for Cooper, says Michael D.

All right. I'd love it. For Cooper? You would love a trade-up for Mr. Dijeen. I just want anything to happen. Let's get some excitement. We haven't had some excitement since. The Lions are trading up to take Blake Quorum.

I really just want the draft to continue. Just make the picks, right? All right. So what are the most ridiculous picks of the first? He thinks it's Arnold as well. He agrees with you. So most ridiculous picks? And me.

Clearly, Michael Pennings, number one. Oh my God, Michael Pennex! Michael Pennix! What are we doing, Belkin? Bo Nix. Bo Nix number two. But the only reason Bo Nex was a bad pick is because I'm sure they wanted somebody better than him, but they had to take him in a way. But they didn't. But they didn't.

You're right. You're right. You're right. And they didn't even try to trade, or maybe they tried to. didn't even trade down. No. Didn't get anything out of him. They just straight up picked Bo Nix. Yeah. I think Chop is up there too.

I think chop would be the next one after the beach. That was, I, not necessarily because of him. Like, I don't, I don't think he is, I think he's going to be a good player in the NFL. I just think the dolphins should have gone a different direction. You don't think he's number 20. Or you think they should have picked a different position. Yeah. Quinnian Mitchell could be a serious, seriously great corner in the league, though.

He could be. He's got the size. He dominated the senior bowl. He's like the perfect size to be an NFL corner. He has. His arms are long. Long arms. Yeah.

We were watching film on him yesterday. And the only thing that like gives me pause and was given the guy pause that whose video we were watching was he flips his hips way too early. He opened his hips like with the receiver still five yards off of them. Like in the NFL you could easily just like run a slant there. Yeah. And he likes to play super inside. Super inside.

Yes, he does. So, I guess. But then again, he also was playing for Toledo, so he's probably the only good corner on Toledo. Yeah, so. Jacksonville's pick is in? That could also be. What do we say in?

I'm sorry. Terry and Arnold. Terrient Arnold. Preference of the D-Corpsinator. A lot of D-Corporonators will have their corners flip a little bit early just for anything over their head. Yeah, I agree. Crazy take from Michael D here.

Bo Nix is the second best quarterback in this draft. Absurd. That is absurd. I'm sorry. Michael, I got a lot of respect for you. I'm sorry, Dad. That is. Oh.

No, he's my dad. I'm sorry, dad, but that is a great. Wait, what do we got on the screen right now? What are we got on the screen right now? Is that Mario? Look, we got Wario and Luigi and a neck brace. And Luigi. Oh, my God.

We got Mario and Luigi. Dude, what happened to Luigi? He got jumped on by Mario or something. Who is this guy? That neck brace ain't doing anything. He's amped, though. All right. If that tells you anything,

about Jacksonville's about to make an atrocious pick. I'm sorry, but him saying that Bo Nex is the second best quarterback. I got a lot of respect for the guy, but that's absurd. Is Keill Williams number one? Well, obviously, Caleb Williams is number one. I don't know.

Did you hear that game room? My dad said Bo Nex is the second best quarterback of the NFL? In the draft, sorry. Over Heisman winner, Jaden Daniels. I don't know that I agree with that. Brian Thomas Jr. is going. Brian Thomas Jr.

Wow. Play the clip. Play the clip. That one, this one just made too much sense. I am the greatest. I am the greatest NFL analyst ever. Wow. Sorry, the clip just wasn't true.

Bummer. Just not. That's a really good. That is a great pick for the Jaguars. They trade back. They needed it. They trade back and still get a really good receiver. I think Brian Thomas Jr., despite being the

fourth best receiver in this draft class has the potential to be the second best. I don't know. We know the history of LSU's wide receiver 2's and usually pretty bad. Yeah, like Justin Jefferson. Like Justin Jefferson. And Jarvis Landry, both very bad. Horrible in the NFL, you know. LSU wide receiver 2 is just obviously don't turn out.

Oh, okay. Here we got. We have a little listener, a little listener disagreement here. We want Michael D's quarterback rankings, top six. He did say Williams, Daniels, and May are all draft busts though, which does include Caleb Williams. Wow. He likes Bownecks.

Let's see what Evan M. has to say about this. Great pick by the Jaguars and they traded back. I agree. That is a really good pick for them. Yeah, very interesting. Silky smooth is a nuts thing. Tracks tall, he's so good. He's so good.

He is. He has. I'm so glad Trevor Lawrence has somebody. He actually looks. plays very much like DK or DK McHF gosh he looks a lot bigger than he is wow he's

I mean he's 6-4 he's the physical Adam rated as 6-2 and 7-8s wait seriously yeah oh I thought it was 6 3 and 7 8s Moby yeah he's he's an athlete

just watching a little bit of highlights so we're here of Brian Thomas Jr. All right so I don't know I think that nobody kind of saw this pick coming but I feel like this is also the pick should have made. Like this is the thing that I wanted out of it. I don't know if,

I don't know if nobody saw it come. I feel, I didn't, I didn't think Brian Thomas Jr. would fall to 23, but. I'm glad he did for the January's sake. You thought he was going to go earlier?

I thought he would go in the teens. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Well, I feel like all the receivers ended up going earlier than, well, not all,

but neighbors in Adunzee went earlier than we had him projected. But we kind of knew that. Yeah. Yeah. Brian Thomas Jr. Brian Thomas Jr. is the second best receiver. That is a weird pairing though to have Brian Thomas Jr. and Gabe Davis in the same offense

because I feel like that's a similar skill set. Yeah, but one of them big. And then Christian Kirk. Poor Christian Kirk. And the other one is named Gabe Davis. They're both. Oh gosh. We got the Death Star. We got the Death Star room right now.

What? How big is Gabe Davis? Is Gabe Davis tall than six foot? Gabe Davis is not small. Gabe Davis is at least 6-2, I think. Evan say something while I look up how tall Gabe Davis is. I'm also looking up how tall Gabe Davis is. The guy in the front of the draft party for the Cowboys is holding up a sell the team banner with Jay Jones's face cross out.

He's bigger than I thought he was. I mean, Gabe Davis and Brian Thomas Jr., they're kind of the same position. Yeah. I would say Gabe is, can we get your quarterback rankings? Dave Davis plays a lot like Tyler Lockett. Well, Evan M.

just deep threat a lot. Like Tyler Lockett the last two years, I would say. Evan M gave his quarterback rankings. No, Evan M. gave his opinion of what Michael D's top five quarterbacks are. At number one, we have J.J. McCarthy. Wait. And number two.

I see where this was going. We have Bonix. And number three, we have Drake May. And number four. It's his satire. It stops at three. However, number five is Cooper to Jean. So that's one thing I can get behind.

It was a satirical list. We're also a comedy podcast. We're awaiting his official verdict here. If it's the exact same, I would, we might die laughing. We identify as a football slash comedy podcast. Your outside look at the NFL. Guys, you're listening to Radio Freehillsdale,

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Okay. Who's up? Dallas? Dallas. And the pick is in. Already. See, this is where I thought. Blake Corn.

This is where I thought Brian Thomas Jr. could go. So. There is still both corners from Alabama. They do kind of need a corner, actually. Dallas does. No, I'm just so excited for the Lions at this point. Maybe the Lions. Dude.

No. No, mind. There's also. I was thinking. about Xavier Worthy and I was like no. Well, you're looking at Dallas and I think is not in yet. The pick is not in. Oh. They are taking their time.

They got a minute left on the clock. Well, you got, so what does Dallas need? You need a tackle. You just lost. Oh, did they ever sign somebody to replace? They signed nobody in the office. Except their long snapper to a long-term deal. So you need a tackle. Trent Sieg.

You need a corner opposite of of digs, cornerback too a little bit. With the corners on the board, it's hard to pass them up. Green Bay is just loving this, watching these corners fall. Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh. Also might want a wide receiver too. I know. I would not put it past Dallas to take Xavier Worthy right here. That's kind of a Cowboys pick. Really? You think Xavier Worthy would go off the board?

Do you think that the Cowboys would ever take Adnan I Mitchell like in a spot like this? Yeah, I could see them. taking Mitchell for sure. He's kind of seedy lambish, though, no? Oh my goodness. Does he not? They tripped. The Lions for-Oh, my God.

It's not for Brian Thomas. Code Red. Guys. Code Red. All right. Get off your phone. Get off your phone. All right. Also, my dad says that Peddix and Nix will be the best quarterbacks in three years. Okay, whatever. That doesn't matter. The Lions should trade it. Brad is given

the people what they want. Brad is giving them what they want. We're all in the room now. The Detroit Lions have traded up to pick 24. They traded, who did they trade with? The Cowboys. Dallas Cowboys. Up to pick 24. Couledin McKinstree.

Who are. Cooper DeGine. Cooper DeGine, they had to. No, no. Guys, settled down. Settle down. The pick is in. It's Cooper DeGine.

The Cowboys have moved up, or sorry, the lions have moved up from 29 to 24. Five spots. The pick is in. We are waiting in anticipation. This is big. You can feel the energy in the crowd. all the way 130 miles away here.

Look at them. What? Caleb Williams is a fingernail painting diva, says Michael. I don't know. As I would expect from him. What do they give up? Third round.

They gave up a third rounder. They got a seventh rounder next year. I'm fine with that. Do you guys think it's, do we think, are we feeling corner? Oh, Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell just drafted Cooper DeGene

and he is loving it. Conventional. Brad Holmes is not happy. Not as happy as he was with Trayonald. Let it go. Just let it be a surprise, please. Dude, I was one pickoff of Brian Thomas Jr., dear. I was one pickoff.

I was so close. What did I say, though, I did say they were trading up. Oh, I forgot they got Carlton Davis. They don't have to go corner. And they got a meek, what's the guy's name? Amique Robertson is less of a factor than Carlton Davis. Carlton Davis is probably going to be a star. Carlton Davis and Terry Arnold.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh, please. Please give me what I want. Look at the fans. They are on their feet. Please give me what I want. This guy loves it. Please give me what I want.

They are enjoying. Is Eminem announcing the pick? No. No, not in the first round. All right, so we trade and then take our time? Well, no, no, the pick is in. The pick was in right away. Yeah, they have to announce the trade.

They just have to walk. They got to print the jersey. They'll announce the pick. See, what is Michael D saying? What is he like in here? Don't let him, he may give it away. You want to keep this a surprise now. He said told you they're moving up to get their guy and they don't care who it is.

By far the most anticipated pick of the night. This is three years in a row they've done it. If they take Kool-Aid McKinstree, they will take the player that wore the number one jersey at Alabama three years in a row. Which would be kind of cool. Look at that crowd. Oh, it was a beautiful mind in Detroit. The drones. Yeah, lions!

Lions. Oh, boy. All right. All right. Joe Milton the third. What? Oh my gosh. They drafted Jim Here Gibbs again?

They're moving Joe Milton. I mean, fair enough. All right, we need the pick. Come on. I need the pick. We're already three minutes into the Packers pick. Come on now. They've got to print the jerseys.

I'm not looking at my phone because I feel like my dad is on Twitter. I mean Michael D. Whatever his name is. Evan. Evan is not in the room where he can quickly cut if I swear. So this could be bad. Come on, boys. Hold it together.

Terry and Arnold. Loving to who? Dejean. Johnny, yeah, they don't really need interior at this point. He does, though. They did just sign DJ Reader, though. And they still have a Lee McNeil. Oh, Marcus Davenport.

I forgot we got Marcus Davenport. It's either going to be a corner or something that none of us are expecting. And we're going to be like, well, okay. Here's the thing. If Brian Thomas was still on the board, I would tell you it's Brian Thomas. I want to tell you it's a corner. I have no idea.

The question is which one? No, that's... That's probably some Detroit schools, yeah. Some local... Where's Forest Hills Easter? There's high schools? Where is Parker Christian school? King.

Great. The dragons. No, Parker Christian School. The griffons. Point Griffith. Point Griffithaw. I think we played against the dragons Roger is

He's talking about flag football near you Visit nflagg.com We got to do this for the Lions Pick Come on It's in Detroit dude You knew they were going to take some time My dad is texting me so much I got six notifications in the last five minutes

Don't look at the phone Do not look down Come on The anticipation is cutting Through the air He's just like ready for his stuff 1.1.7 FM. Anybody

too right now is like, what am I listening to? It's a heavy breathing in my radio. It's a young girl. It's Ellie in What do you play tackle? It's a young girl named Ellie.

Play tackle. Come on. Come on. 24th pick. The lion select. Terry Arnold. Yes! All right.

Let's go. Super Bowl windows officially wide open. Oh, I'm so happy right now. Yep. Number one right corner. Yep. And from outside source football. The number nine.

So matters. They actually did what I thought they would do, which is not what I thought they would do. So therefore, it's not what I thought they were going to do. They did like the best case scenario for me. Terrian Arnold. Yes. A lot of people's number one corner. This guy looks excited.

Why wouldn't he be? Do that whole, oh my gosh, Going to America's team. He will have the crowd. Look at it. The crowd's going to be going insane. I have no idea. I mean, we were watching a lot of film on this guy.

This is crazy. I never thought. America's team. America's team. I never thought. Me neither. I didn't think Kooli and McKinstree would fall to the lions. Dude, no, Arnold is just perfect for Dan Kimford for the Gene to the Packers.

Not a gritty guy. Are there any concerns with Tarian Arnold? No, 4-5-40. Nope. The athletic, he's not as, you know, crazy of an athlete. athlete is Quignon Mitchell, but if you turn on the tape, this guy is physical, he's up in your face, he is willing to come make a hit.

I mean, I love... I'm liking it. I love Terriand Arnold. Watching him. Oh my gosh. This guy, this guy might cry and it's not because he's sad. He's going to the lions like everybody else does. I think he's a perfect fit for this team. Oh, that jersey's so clean. That jersey looks

good. I love that jersey. Oh, let's go. Dude, everything's looking up to Troy. He's so happy. So happy. You should watch guys just walk across stage, depressed when the lions would pick them. Oh, you know. And now it's the happiest they could ever be. Yeah. Oh my gosh.

No more excitement. You're telling me Amik Robinson is our third corner now. And he is kind of a dog. Amic Robertson is a good slot corner. That's where he should be. But we got Brian. You should. Well, I got, dude, Amic was a rotational player with the Raiders.

I see. Ameek won't probably start for us. He probably won't start, but he's a good, he's a good depth guy. What's Michael D got to say over there? It's not suitable for the radio. A 70 for athleticism? Can you have the cut? Can you have the cut ready?

No. No? I can't. I can't say exactly what my dad's on? No. All right, fine. Can I read it, though? All right, so.

Yeah, that's Michael D. I would agree with that feeling. It seems he's very excited. So the, the, uh, The Lions have taken Terry and Arnold. Many people's number one corner on the board. They got him all the way at pick 24. They traded up five spots to get him.

All they had to give up was their third round pick. And they get the guy they want. And honestly, I bet the Lions thought that there was no way he was going to fall this far. I'm sure they were shocked that he felt this far. I honestly bet he was like a top five player on their draft board in general. Like overall. Yeah, 100%. Including every player in this draft.

And they got him at 24. Yeah, I agree. I think that they were... I really want to hear what he's saying right now. There's no way that they thought that he was going to fall that far. Well, I don't know if you could say there's no way. Right Holmes knows all. It was pretty...

You're right. You're so right. I'm so excited. I forgot about the value of a third round pick a little bit. That is kind of a hefty price, but you're moving up five spots. That's a lot. For the speech? And to get the guy...

I think it's a good move. They got a seventh round pick and two. 2025, I mean, that doesn't really get you much. He just took the mic to start talking to the crowd. I love this man. But to be fair, what did we do? Who did we draft with a third pick? We drafted Broderick Martin last year, who touched the field zero times.

He was not a good pick. If it was the second round pick, I'd actually be kind of pissed that they trade it up. Honestly, you guys have hit on so many picks that a few years down the road, you've got to sign them all. You may as well just, you know. And I really like, I really have one less guy you have to sign because you guys just can't miss right now. I really like I really like what the Cowboys did. Knock on wood.

With what the Cowboys have? Because the Cowboys, if the Cowboys wanted to go receiver, they're still going to get a receiver. Cardinals aren't taking a receiver. I don't think the Packers will take a receiver. Buffalo's going to take a receiver. Buffalo's going to take receiver, but you're going to get either Xavier Worthy or Adonai Mitchell. All right, L.V. Right. You guys still on the floor. Your boys are up. What are we thinking here? I have never been this

excited for a Green Bay Packers draft pick than I am right now. Hold on. Hold on. Legitimately, legitimately. Are you taking Kool-Aid? See, I don't know. So right now, our biggest weakness is our secondary and our linebackers. That one, we've lost Devandre Campbell. There's no good linebackers on the board, at least not that are worth taking right now.

We have a good O-line. We have a good D-line right now. We have some young receivers, but they're showing a lot of talent. I don't think we necessarily need a receiver right now. They just don't take a receiver. You just don't take receivers first front of any. Our offensive threat is good, and our defensive, like, backfield is struggling a little bit. I think Cooper DeGine, I'm taking him over Kool-Aid McKinstree.

I just think that, oh, there's, oh, no, Terry on R. I thought it was Kool-Aid McKinstree. I was like, oh. Never mind, I love this guy. I mean, to be real. I mean, I wouldn't be mad about either one at this point. No. No.

Is it falling to 25? I mean, we had you guys mocked getting like Nate Wiggins and being happy about that. Now you're going to get the I mean, yeah, whoever you feel like is the third best corner. Can we talk about, we got to talk about this too. Brian Branch played with Terry and Arnold. So they might have a little bit of chemistry there already. Oh, yeah. So you got a lot of Bama guys. That's good. I mean, but like, that's cultural. I love it. I love it. So Lucas Van Ness, the current D.N for the Packers that was drafted

last year, is also an Iowa guy, longtime teammate of Cooper DeGine. And he visited the Packers facility and they were taking pictures with them. I think that DeGine is not only can play corner in the NFL, but I think he's versatile. And I think if we need to put him in that safety position, we could, which we now have our safety, I'm losing his name. But I think what's even more important is the return threat that DeGine brings. Who's your returner? He's Sean Nixon.

He's an excellent returner. He was an all-pro returner. So it's not necessarily that we need it, but it's never a bad thing to have two sides. solid returners on a team. He's a really good football player. Xavier. I know who you're talking about. The guy from the Giants. I can't remember his name. McKinley. McKinley. McKinley. Yeah. And he's a dog. Oh, man, they're announcing this pick right now. He's coming out. I was going to say, after this, let's get a little recap of the last couple of pick seven. But yeah, this one's

in. Oh, my gosh. They wasted no time. I am sweating. I'm shaking the nerves over here. If they pick Cooper de Jean, this would be the happiest I've ever been with a Packers pick. They're going to pick a quarterback. I don't. I don't. I don't think it's Coupe. And honestly, the Packers, the Packers, Cram Barton.

With Kooli and McKinster, I don't think it's Cooper to Jean. Honestly. The Packers' draft picks are never really exciting. Oh my gosh. They're not exciting, but they get the job done.

Oh, what? Classic Packers. Oh. What? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Wow. Wow.

The Packers choose. He's good. He's good. Jordan Morgan. My tackle from Arizona. They need a tackle, though. I watched him today. I watched him today.

Wow. He's good. Yes. How disappointing. We do need a tackle, but this is what I'm talking about. Every year, every year there's exciting players on the board and the Packers go with someone who's not as exciting. And don't get me wrong, these players usually always turn out to be good. Packers are normally pretty good drafters.

Wow. However, this breaks my heart. I'm going to go home and cry. Wow. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. is ruined. I am so... After all the other...

All-Pack 12 honorable match. He's not even all that. Well, to be fair, uh, there was a couple, there was a couple really good tackles from Pack 12. The guy from, wait, the guy from Oregon States on the board.

No, no, no, no. No, he got picked. He got picked by. Uh, the Saints. The Saints. Oh, oh. The Saints. All right, so let me do a draft recap.

We will start at the Saints. Pick is in already. So number 14, Talis Faga. That's this Northern Saints. Number 15, liatu, Latu, the Colts, Byron Murphy, the second to the Seahawks, Dallas Turner to the Minnesota Vikings. Number 18, Amarius Mims, the Cincinnati Bengals. Number 19, edge rusher to Jared Verst to the L.A. Rams.

Number 20, Troy Fatanu to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Number 21, Chop Robinson to the Miami Dolphins. Number 22, Quinion Mitchell to the Eagles. Number 23, Brian Thomas Jr., wide receiver to the Jags. Number 24, Terry and Arnold, to the quarterback, or the cornerback of your Detroit Lions. And number 25, Jordan Morgan, offensive tackle for the Packers. See, and what's crazy is Terry and Arnold is just a better, I feel like he's a better prospect than Jeff Akuta even was. Oh.

No, he, I don't know, I don't really remember the hype. probably didn't test athletically as well as Okuda did. The thing that pisses me about Kuta. I didn't watch a lot of football when Okuda was playing. The reason the Lions picked Akuta, in my opinion, is that Matt Patricia had the safe face because he basically bullied Darius Slay away. And he needed to make up a reason why he did that. And that was like, oh, you were always going to draft a corner.

So we reached for Akuta. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. But, oh, my God. Okay, so I haven't been looking on Raiders Twitter. There's a bunch of people mad about the Raiders taking Brock Bowers. I don't want to hear it.

I do not want to hear it. You love the pick? I love the pick. I like the pick too. There's this guy. He does a bunch of videos on YouTube. The more I think about the Raiders pick, the more I realize the Raiders really messed up a great opportunity,

blah, blah, blah. They should have taken a quarterback or an offensive tackle. A quarterback? What quarterback? A quarterback? And what, I mean, I'm sorry. I would not have gone offensive tackle over a guy I feel like was arguably could be the best player in the draft. I don't care. I don't care that we drafted Michael Mayer last year.

I just, I think it was, I think it was a really solid pick. Quarterback is wild. Yeah, like what, like what? You wanted, you wanted them to trade up to take Bo Nix or Michael to wait to take Spencer Rattler? I mean, yeah, what? I don't know, I don't get it. So, Raider fans will find a reason to be mad about anything. I'm getting word from a fan. Jeff V. He likes the Packers pick. He thinks that we're, he thinks that the Packers are hurting at the tackle position. Okay. And he thinks that we're going to need to take some time to rebuild that offensive line to

protect Jordan Love. He wasn't bought in on Cooper to Gene. I think from the start, like regardless of players, he wanted that O-line protection that I guess Jordan Love needs if we want him to continue to be good. It makes sense. I think there were, I think I liked Barton and, what's the thing? Is it Jackson Powers? Texas Powerer Stansson.

But they're both interior. So if you wanted a tackle, he was the best tackle available. Yeah, probably. So, I mean, yeah, as much as I like those other two guys, if they're interior alignment and that's not what you wanted, go get, yeah, go get the best tackle. My only problem is that, okay, so we didn't have Bok,

or the Packers didn't have Boktiari, and we haven't had him in a past couple years due to injury, and he just was released by the Packers. However, I never saw the Packers O line this year as a major threat to success. I thought the Packers O' line did good enough to allow Jordan Love to stay in the pocket and Jordan Love also has the ability

to get out of the pocket, throw off platform, and do his job there. I just, right now I'm trying to weigh what was more important and I think our defensive secondary was more important than our offensive tackles. I remember watching those Packer games with Jack. And more often than not, it was,

oh my gosh, this defense can't stop a nosebleed. Yeah. I mean, they stepped up big at certain points in the season. Obviously, the playoff game that they won against the Cowboys, they were really solid early in the game and forced some turnovers. But all in all, when you look at the season, yeah, I mean, you got to think the defense was a bigger, a bigger concern. But, you know, the Packers are who they are.

I mean, we've talked about the Lions being unconventional. The Packers have been doing this for ever. I mean, they've always been unconventional in draft. like you said, every year, it seems like there's a guy who, yeah, oh my gosh, I'm super excited about this guy. I'd love to see him as a packer. And then they just say, you know, I mean, yeah, they'll pull a total 180 on. You'd be like, no, we're going to take this guy that nobody was talking about. And that's that.

Yeah. And like I said, honestly, when the year comes around, this guy will probably be super helpful to our team. Packers usually do this every year. But still, I wanted the gene so bad. And that really hurts me to see that go. especially when we could have got him When he was still on the board He didn't have to trade up for him

Yeah he fell right into our lap Like it was there for the taking So what do you do now if you're the bucks This is an interesting one Your offensive line has been Okay Your defense is okay You're kind of just okay everywhere

Literally okay everywhere I mean other than receiver Receiver you're looking pretty good But I mean Do you take another defensive lineman trying to get better pass rush. You mean they just took a first round defensive tackle last year. Do you take a...

Oh, and the pick is in. Yeah, here comes the buck's pick. Pick number 26. All right. I don't know what they're going to do. Jack V seems to be very excited. I mean, you lost Carlton Davis. I feel like Koolaid McKinstree is the obvious.

Thank you. You might need to take an offensive line. Graham Barton. How about that? They took Barton from Duke. We've talked about him a little bit. Oh, we've got a Mitch Morse comp. Let's go. Shout out Mitch Morse. He's the St. Michael's guy.

Same high school as me. Austin, Texas. Mitch Morse. Anyway, Graham Barton. I liked Graham Barton a lot. He's, he's versatile. He's played across, all across the line of scrimmage. Yeah, they have him as a center. I think, yeah, he'll probably play center or guard in the NFL. They just, Ryan Jensen just retired, right? From the Bucks. Evan is not listening to me. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not really sure. Barton's the kind of guy you should be able to plug in and play right away. I mean, yeah, started 39 games in college.

34 at left tackle, five at center, projects better on the interior. Good athlete, good feet. Probably not big enough to play tackle in the NFL, though. Yeah, I like that. I like Graham Barton a lot. I'm a huge fan. I'm a little bit surprised they didn't take Jackson Powers, Johnson,

first, but I don't blame them. Not like super upset about it. So we got an opinion from Evan M. From Evan M. Lions fan opinion. Target Kian Coleman in the second round. I don't like Kian Kulman. You don't like Kian Kulman.

You guys know me. Evan hates Kian Kovman. Even in the second round? You don't like him? No. You don't like him in the second? Kian Komen kind of has bust written all over him. I don't disagree.

Athletic guy. He reminds me of Kenny Galladay. Well, Kenny Goladay, when he was good, was good. Reminds you of Kenny Gallaudet after he's bad. Bad to Kenny Galladay. He reminds me of Kenny Galladay with less separation. My dad is bad. Dan, if you have so much to say, just get on a mic, brother.

Yeah, he's seeing Keon Coleman doesn't get open. Can't separate from the defensive. Totally agree. My dad thinks that Bowers is an absolute stud. Oh, wow, they are just rifling through this. Yeah. Darius Robinson from Missouri. That's a good pick.

He goes out all the edges. We like, I like Darius Roberts. He's a big dude. He could play a little bit. He could play a little bit. He's a little bit more of a traditional defensive end. Right. He's not the speedy-in-hastroch.

But he's... He has some moves. For as big as he is, he's decently athletic. Yeah, you'd think he'd just be a bullrush guy. He's less of a bull-hush guy than Jared versus, possibly. Now, I... The metrics are always right. I like Darius Robinson.

Honestly, I liked it more than Chop Robinson. So the fact that, yeah, they can get him at 27. I think that's a good pick from the Cardinals get Marvin Harrison Jr. Fourth overall. Now, Darius Robinson. I like it. Good moves. Both day one starters.

All right, the Buffalo Bills. Got to be a receiver. At night, Mitchell. Xavier worthy. Adonite Mitchell. Could he Xavier worthy. I don't. I'm saying Mitchell.

I think you're looking for that traditional acts. Oh, man, Xavier Worthy is going to the Chiefs. If they take Keon Coleman. No. Xavier Worthy cannot go to the Chiefs. So my dad just sent, so there's a report out that Kirk Cousins is very mad that the Falcons took Michael Paddock's. Oh, you don't say. My dad is mad that Kirk Cousins is acting like a small child and complaining.

And I said, well, there's a report that Kirk Cousins is mad about the pick. Yeah. Gosh darn it. Is the quote. Hey, Kirk. playoff game and then you can have an opinion. That's what I would say. But to be fair, if I was Kirk Cousins, I'd be pretty mad.

I say to my two listeners. Yeah, I mean, you could have taken Roma Dunesay. You could have helped bolster that offense. I understand why he's mad because he's like, can you get a guy who's actually going to play? Kirk Cousins did win one playoff game, just for the record. Okay, win two playoff games, Kirk. All right, I've got a hypothetical being floated in. by anonymous listener Luke S.

He's wondering what the chances are of the Bengals trading back up to get Johnny Newton. What's their next pick? You mean Jayrason Newton? Yeah. Do they call it? Does he go by Johnny? Yeah.

Okay. I didn't know that. I've just seen Jerzon, so I just didn't know. I wouldn't say it's crazy. It would be out of tendency for the Bengals. They usually look to trade down at that spot. I don't know that it'll happen tonight. Yeah, I think you have a better chance to fall in the second round.

I'm looking at the teams on the board left here. Buffalo's going to go receiver. Ladd-McConkey's still on the board. He haven't talked about it. Ladd-McConkey is a good player. He is very good route-runner. I was also blown away by his testing. He tested way better than I thought he was going to.

I think he had him. He was in the 4-4s of the 40. He had a ridiculous version. His athleticism was not sneaky. It was very obvious. Yeah, I mean, I was expecting his athleticism would be sneaky, considering he was a walk-on at Georgia, worked his way up.

Ladd-McConkie is not Hunter Renfro. Ladd-McConkie is closer to... Honestly, his company is Antonio Brown. He's a crazy route runner. He runs crazy routes. He's being projected as... He can separate... As a slot guy, but I think he's got enough of the quickness

to separate on the outside. He does have the quickness, but he's a little bit smaller. He is undersized, but... He's 5-11. I think they list him at 6 foot. He's probably... He could move around, though. It's not like he's just limited to the slot.

I agree with that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, go, we have a pick-in. Oh, we do? Oh, we do. I really wish. A trade? A trade. I really wish that Bill Belichick was still with the Patriots.

Chiefs are trading up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, they're taking Adnan Mitchell. Wait, wait, wait, the Chiefs. The Bill's traded with the Chiefs? Why would you do that, Bill's? Guys, the Chiefs are still picking at 32. No, they're not.

Yeah, they are. I'm looking at it right now. Yeah, you're looking at it right now, but on here, they're not. They're not. I kind of like A.D. Mitchell better than... I like him, too. I like him, too. I think he's a more complete guy.

For the Chiefs. Andy Mitchell? I love Aed Mitchell. Xavier Worthy's a little slight in his frame. Well, Worthy's a gadget guy. Not a gadget guy, but he's not a complete receiver. He's... Right.

Well, I hate that the bills traded, though. He's a crispy route runner, but I think A.D. Mitchell has, like... 80 Mitchell has, like... The frame and the strength and... enough of the the ball skills and savviness to be like an outside guy. He's got number one receiver. 80 Mitchell is my fourth best ranked receiver right behind the. What is, how do you lose, how do you lose every year in the playoffs to the Kansas City Chiefs

and then just let them trade up with you to get their guy? I feel like when you also need a receiver. I'm past. I'm sure the bills feel like they're doing something smart here, but this is this is the kind of move that a year from now we're going to look at back. and be like, oh my gosh, the Chiefs just fleece the bills and got the guy that they wanted. Exactly.

Is the pick-in? Not yet. It's a commercial. So what does Rashi Rice play for the Chiefs right now? Well, nothing. Nothing. That's fair. That's fair.

Play? I like that. I really wish Bill Belichick still is a Patriots. I feel like they take them in the early second round. Too busy living out is GTA fantasy and technology. This play is nuts. I hope that they show. Sorry, we're watching Ladd McCon.

he highlights. I hope they show the other angle on this one. Look at this play, Logan. The bills that 32 could take Ladd. That's a good pick. I like Troy Franklin a lot too. And he just gets underthrown. You see him just get underthrown?

Like, that was a disgusting double move. Yeah. Yeah, he's... Lad's crazy. I can see it. Maybe they just don't love either Adonai Mitchell or Xavier worthy enough. Also, his name is Lad. He's a lad.

It's like getting named Guy. Guy. With two D's. Guy. Yeah, it's too deep. It was this guy. We haven't seen any players being traded yet.

Did we try to get Christopher Walking on tonight? We did. His agent said he was busy filming Dune 3. Guys, you should have reached out earlier. Out of an interest in coming down to your studio and talking about the draft. I'm sorry, but I had to go to Saturday Night Live and introduce Fu Fighters.

foe fighters guys I'm telling you I'm watching the pack his pick and I think what would Vince Lombardi think of this guy I just don't know

honestly Vince Lerner this is enough We're gonna run the pack of sweep No he would have wanted Yeah And we're gonna run it until it's perfect And eight hours tomorrow Say it say the line

Come on It's a running joke that you Okay well this is a running joke Between Joe and I At some point back during the season, we pitched the idea for a Vince Lombardi biopic starring Christopher Warkin as Vince Lombardi. And so I started doing the quote.

I was like, fellas, what we're looking for is a seam here and another seam here. And we're going to run the ball down the middle through the aforementioned seam. And I'm telling you guys,

the defense is not going to be able to stop this. And sure enough, they couldn't stop it. And I don't know, the studio thought it was stupid. They didn't like the idea. I don't even think they ever got in contact with Christopher's people. But anyway. Such a shame. Pick number 28.

Guys, you're listening to Radio Free Hillsdale 101.1.7 FM. Chiefs around the clock. Is it a receiver? Does it have to be a receiver? I think it has to be a receiver. Does it have to be a receiver? Interior O lineman? I think it's going to be a quarterback.

It could be a lineman. Could be a corner. They just got rid of Lageria. It could be a corner. It could be Kool-Aid McKinthry. That's a good point. Cooper DeGine? Quarterback.

Well, here's the other thing. Quarterback? Yeah. Joe Mill and the third. I forgot they signed Marquis Brown. It won't be Xavier worthy. They're not going to take Xavier worthy. That's true.

I think it'll be Adnan Mitchell. Here's the other thing is that you usually tell teams, like teams that make it could tell you who you're drafting when you want to trade up with them. And so if the bills and the Chiefs wanted the same receiver, then the bills probably would just deny. What if the Chiefs just lied to him? You can just lie. We're going to take Koolade McKinststree.

You could lie, but I feel like that's not something people do. I don't. I think people, come on. Who are you going to pick? I don't hate that Kool-A-McKinstree pick. They want to bolster that defense even more. I don't disagree. I agree.

They just lost the need. You need a new starting outside corner. McKinstry makes sense. Dallas could take them too. Dallas could definitely take a player. Could take, no, could take Kool-A-Mikinstri is what I'm saying, so they might have wanted to jump them. Dallas might take a football player.

Now, there might be a player picked in the draft con. There's definitely an incentive to draft a person. A guy who play human. Football at the Division I level in the NCAA. An animal? Something alive? Oh my gosh.

It's Kyle Kudla. Classic Bugger McFarland take. This guy plays footballed. Bugger is so shocking. There was nothing better than that one year of Monday Night Football when they had Jason Whitten in the booth and Booger McFarlane down on the sideline. Remember Booger's chair? The Booger mobile.

His sideline chair. Buga, you're in the way, Buga, you can't see, you freaking moron. He was like a villain in a movie or something. Like a Spy Kids villain. No one on the first three rows of the sideline could see. No.

Justin is reading the pick in. Horrible wardrobe decisions by Justin here. Xavier worthy. This is my worst nightmare. Wow. No, no. Speed kills. They got another Tyree kill. They're looking for Tyreeka.

Well, they've been trying to find him. He's 165 pounds. Oh, my gosh, and he's a tank del. I bet I could wrestle him. Not the Tank Del Com. Really? Why do the Chiefs have to take players that I love in college? And I just have to hate them when they play for the Chiefs.

Oh, this is tough. Wait, wait, did you say, you know, Tank Del Comp? Yeah. Tank Del Comp. I don't know. I don't know if I buy that either. He doesn't have the same, like, Tank Dell was really acrobatic at the catch point. Is he ever with these...

Not. Don't let this guy get behind the wheel of a car. Now, what I do love... He didn't have a... He didn't have a... Never mind. I forgot the joke. Go on. What I do love...

Oh, my dad just texted me. What is he? Michael D. It's the F word. All caps. What I do love... Fart. That is all.

FART. What I do love about this guy is that, you know, obviously he's got blazing speed and that's what pops off paper. but usually when you associate that blazing speed, usually think, oh, they're only going to be taking the top off every route. But this guy can run a full route tree.

He does. I think he's an underrated route runner. And when we talked about him earlier, I described him as maybe not the most versatile receiver, but he's a super versatile football player because you got the return game. I mean, yeah, screens, jet sweeps, find the way to get him the ball. And then I talked about it at length,

but my favorite play was a play of that there was a play that there was an interception on and he ended up chasing the guy like 50 yards down the field and another Texas player punched the ball out and he was there to recover the phone bottle. I was like that's the kind of effort you want to see from the guy. Yeah and I mean people talk about like straight line speed guys. I mean he's not a per se like making a whole bunch of cuts guy but I think he is a really nice like first cut like that first drag off right or left it's really really pure. So, yeah, I agree.

He is making a cut. I like Logan's point that he can actually run a route tree because you look at other speed, speed guys like Jameson Williams. Can't really run a full route tree. You really just have him in there to take the top off the defense or every once in a round. Yeah, exactly. Run an end around or maybe run like a comeback

because everybody is playing him with so much cushion. All right. So the best players available on the board. Cooper DeCene out of Iowa. Not to the Cowboys. Please. Johnny Newton. out of Illinois, Nate Wiggins,

Kooli and McKinstree. Man, there's still a lot of good corners. Ed and I Mitchell, Ladd McConkey. Oh, my, if... Do you think the lines could have just stayed here and still picked? Here in Arnold, probably not. None of the other guys picked corners,

but somebody else probably would have traded up. I feel like the Packers would have... Okay, the Packers are up again in 12 picks going into round two. There is a shot. He could be there. Cooper DeGis is there. There is a shot.

There's also a shot he's gone after this pick. Oh, no. Did you check? No, no. Oh, okay. Don't check. Don't check. Don't check.

No, they're talking about it. 5-11, 165. So light. He's got speed to play on the outside, but you worry about. That size and that catch radius and... Who's this? I think the catch. Talking about Xavier Werner.

He's a body catcher, too. Like, everything he's catching is coming over the shoulder. Mostly. The X... I mean, he's never going to be a jump ball guy, obviously. Tyler Geithen. Tackle, Oklahoma. That's what you need.

Jerry takes an Oklahoma guy. That's crazy. I just saw a mock that was talking about it because the freaking cowboys love taking the Oklahoma, the Texas, the New Mexico area. They love guys who played in the Cotton Bowl. Last year was a Red River rivalry. Who was it last year?

You're familiar with the stadium? I'm familiar with the stadium. Yes, I haven't been there. Who was the kid from Tulsa they drafted last year? Tyler Smith? That's not right. They have a tie. Tyler Smith and then they have a Tyron Smith

and they play right next to each other. Well, Tyrone Smith is, didn't he, isn't he gone now? Is he the one? One of them is old. Tyrone Smith went to the Jets. But Tyler Smith is who they drafted last year. I believe so. Yeah, I might have been two years ago, but yeah.

It's not a bit pick. He's stopping the charge very well. Guyton. I mean, he's, he was similar to Mims in that, yeah, both of them are just massive. I mean, yeah, started nine games right, tackle in 2023.

I mean, they look excited. I love when non-experts have to talk about why they do or don't like an alignment pick. And they're like, well, he's, you know. That's why I like having Ely here. That was good. He's big. The only concern I'd have with Tyler Guyton is just from seeing those clips alone from his highlight right there. He's huge, obviously.

He's huge. And that's played into his advantage with like stopping the charge. However, I think that's held him back a little bit from developing his hands. I was going to say the same thing. It looked like he had high hands on all. That's my biggest problem with a lot of these guys is the hands look bad. I mean, like, you watch Joe Alt, that's the difference. Alt is very technically sound.

You watch some of the other tackles and you're like, you see a lot of this. A lot of like bear hugging coming from the outside, grabbing guys' shoulders. I mean, that's just a holding penalty. So what I watched from Tyler Geithen when I watched him actually this past week, what I saw the only thing that he really, really got beat by pretty easily, was there was a nice pitch pull move and it just seemed to like get all of his momentum just falling forward and he was gone. So I think that he's pretty susceptible to that. But other than that, I don't really know.

That's what, that's all I saw really. I think, I think there's a lot of good old linemen that are, out of played there and are on the staff there at Dallas. Yeah. They'll be able to teach him quite a bit. I would say, yeah. That's a good point. It's a good situation to go into. If anything Dallas has shown that they can consistently develop offensive linemen.

I feel like Mims and Guyton both went to really good. like situations for both of them both not having a ton of experience Cooper disease is on the board is crazy is the Ravens pick in yet yeah

I hope they draft someone the Ravens could draft some an interior offensive lineman now because they lost they could take yeah I feel like Power's Johnson is sticking out to me Jackson Powers Johnson is probably the like most obvious pick

it is always important to have a power And they just lost two. Koolade McKinstry still on the board. As is, very nice. What's the secondary looking like for the Ravens? I know they have Kyle Hamilton. Do they still have Marlon Humphrey?

Still there. So, Marlon Humphrey. Lost. I heard that the other corner was bad. That's what I was hearing from a Ravens fan the other day. They're going to need some speed to keep up with their chiefs. They lost Gino Stone on the back end.

Did they? Well, this actually wouldn't be a bad spot. Is Marcus Peters still kicking? No. No. Peters is. Peters is gone. He gone.

Tyler Newman's still there. I think he done yet. I mean, Kool-Aid McKinstry is still there. So is Nate Wiggins. Man, would I hate to see Kool-Aid in a Ravens jersey. Yeah. Or Nate Wiggins? How do you feel about Nate Wiggins?

Wiggins is good, but he's got a... He's small, too. He's got a real tiny frame. Yeah. Him and Xavier Worthy could play on each other all day. Yeah, that'd just... Match up and skinny on skinny. Outrun each other.

And the Ravens seem to... I don't know, maybe this is just anecdotal, but it seems like they would prefer guys that can tackle. physical defensive backs historically yeah marman marron humphrey or marlin humphraing that could be anecdotal but between marlin humphrey being you know a pretty physical guy and and kyle hamilton obviously be able to scream down in the box and make plays cool it's that kind of player too at least a little bit he likes to go on hill he likes to be at least aggressive with receivers i don't know as much about you know coming down and making tackles in the box but i doubt it's a receiver even though

they, I wouldn't say that they have a number one X receiver, you know, Zay Flores. They just extended Rashad Bateman today. They just extended Rashad Bateman today. I don't, I don't think this is a receiver. I think this is, yeah. I think this is Kool-Aid or Powers Johnson. I think those are.

I think something that I forgot what I was going to say. You think that they're going to take a football player? They will take a football player. I think thoughts. As you listen to Radio Freeles still. Nate Wiggins. Wow. Good call.

Nick. Nate Wiggins. He is skinny. That is a surprising pick. I mean, Dan's kind of right. He's taller than I thought. I didn't realize he was that tall. He's skinny though. He's still light. Listen, that, you can make up for that slight frame a lot of the time if you're able to play with a lot of length. He's obviously got the speed to boot too, but I don't know. I think a lot of that stuff can be learned instinctually too.

Also is still bigger. He's still bigger than the guy that Washington took last year. I can't remember his name, but he was way small. Emmanuel Forbes. Yes. And he turned out really bad. Not to mention, I think Wiggins is one of those guys that even dropped some weight to run the 40. So he looked, I'm like, that's like the picture of my mind is him running the 40.

And I was like, oh my gosh. This guy is so thin. No. So, I mean, just throwing that out there. Like, just because he was lighter running his 40, he was just trying to get a better time. That's not a bad. That's not a bad thought. Which, I mean, a lot of guys do for the combine.

I would be worried if I'm if I'm the Ravens here about tackling on the outside. I mean, yeah, he seems like a great pass defender. But I mean, there's still some small receivers in the NFL, but it seems like receivers are getting bigger and stronger and faster. I would like to see, I'd like to see some film on him tackling. Like in the open field, maybe he just has a really good technique. That's why he's an effective corner. But if not, like, that's kind of an issue.

Because, like, matched up on a receiver like Debo Samuel or like A.J. Brown. That's tough. That's kind of a nightmare. That secondary is going to have some some guys that can catch on the back end though. Like Wiggins has good ball skills. Kyle Hamilton's obviously a hawk back there. They're going to have guys

that can actually convert those plays into big opportunities. And I think those guys are also, obviously those two say, like Kyle Hamilton is huge. And I think what they are saying, maybe he's what Nate Wiggins is lacking in size, he can be, you know, get a little, help from his secondary around him in order to help with that tackling. Yeah, and I think they'll obviously, you know, try to keep him out of positions where, yeah,

like he's, yeah, he's matched up with a, you know, big time ex-receiver guy that's got 30, 40 pounds on him. I mean, yeah, I imagine the game plan in a way that that doesn't happen. It's good fight. Especially when you have Marlon Humphrey, who's a much better matchup for those type of guys. Is anybody left in the green room? That's what I'm looking up right now. I don't think so though They don't think so

They didn't have that They didn't bring that many guys this year They only had 13 guys yeah Cowards God would No no no no A real man gets invited to the first round draft It doesn't get picked to the third round

But keeps showing up every day Just sit in the green rooms Have we had anything catastrophic Happened to drop someone's stock Since Laramie Tunsell's Gas Masked I know Was there anything bad happened?

Has there anything bad happened? like that since. I don't know. That one was so crazy because it was like, I want to say it was his stepdad who was the one that leaked the video. What an animal. I mean, leave it to a family dispute to be the most crazy thing, like to drop something like that, you know. Okay, so no, all the guys in the green room got picked already. Do you know who the last one was, Darius Robinson? It would have been. Kyle Kudla. It would have been Darius Robinson, yeah. Sorry, Killer K's. What about? Duplicate.

Why can I think of his name? D. Lyman from Georgia. You can speak closer to Mike. Jalen Carter? Jalen Carter. What about the Jalen Carter situation? Yeah, but that wasn't on like on-draft day. He also got dropped to 10.

You know, he killed someone in a car accident. That's not. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. No, he was just, he was just a witness. I think he just, he wasn't driving the car. Anyway, I don't think it's.

His drift. After that, the stuff that was also concerning was he showed up way out of shape, tried to do like two drills at his pro day and then like pulled his hamstring. He was so out of shape. That's how real man goes out. I didn't even run a 40. Like came out and did some drills on the pop-ups and was like, yeah, I'm done. That's it.

You know what? I'm too tired for this. Do you know the bills? I'm going home. Sorry, go ahead. I don't remember. I don't have anything that it popped up. I'll look it up on Twitter.

I think Buffalo actually traded with the Chiefs. That way they got the last pick and it looked like they won the Super Bowl. Yeah. They traded nothing at all. Just for looks. They just traded. They just swathed first round. Who has been the best dress tonight?

What do you guys think? I like, not Drake May. Terry and Arnold had a nice suit. He looked like a Japanese cherry. I heard you guys talking nice about Dallas Turner. Dallas Turner. Yeah, Dallas Turner was Dallas Turner the one with a green suit?

Yeah. A real nice jade. I like that. A jade is a gold tie. The biggest. prize of the night. It might not be Michael Pennings. It might actually be that

Caleb Williams didn't show up in a dress. You guys need to do like fashion for the Grammys or something. We should have just made a separate broadcast just commenting on the fashion. I'm here with pretend to I'm talking about everyone's ill-fitting suits.

I got the trade details right here. So the bills trade away, the 28th pack, the 133th pick, and the 248th pack. Those raw numbers. numbers mean nothing to me and the chiefs yeah I didn't mean either and the chiefs traded away the 35th pick the 95th pick and the 22nd 1st pick so they moved up from round 4 to round 3 they moved up in two rounds yep okay round 4 to round 3 is actually a pretty big move I just it's just really going to

hurt if Xavier worthy goes off for the chiefs and I just that's so nuts I don't get it if you're the bills why would you well I don't think the bills were going to take worthy I don't care what they were going to take they let the they let the chiefs go oh here we go well here here's the thing if hey okay so the chiefs got a fourth round pick a seventh round pick and the 28th overall pick and the bill's got the 32nd overall pick a third round pick and a seventh round pick so they swapped seventh round picks yes so they moved up a little bit there and then they swapped a fourth for a third round pick and the chiefs got the fastest wide receiver to ever clock of 40 i'm you know what i'm just going to fall back on the chiefs have tried this with sky more and

Cadarious Tony. Please, please, please. I hope it continues to not work, but it's tough because I like Xavier Worthy so much. And he's so much better than John Ross. He's going to say, yeah. He doesn't strike me as a John Ross. And he was so much better.

I didn't like Skymore coming out of college. So he was so much better than Skymore. Niners pick. Well, you are the expert. My logic. What are the Niners do? The Niners, they actually got rid of Brandon Ayyuk.

I thought they had to go offensive line. Did they go interior offensive line? just take Powers Johnson. He's still on the board. He is still. Ricky Purso. Oh, this guy is good. Ricky Purcell.

This guy is going up. Really? However, not expecting this guy to go this high in the draft. I don't think he would go above Adonai Mitchell. Or Franklin. Obviously. This guy is silky smooth. This guy had one of the most, this catch.

This catch is crazy. One of the most ridiculous catches I've seen. And holds onto it after he gets like nailed. Sandwich. Off the catch. Do you, is this, does this, is this a signal

that they might be trading Brandon Ayuk? I would say so. It's a signal they don't want to pay him. Yeah. Another weapon for them to be backers

in the playoffs. Are a, Green Bay Packer. No. Come on, please. Chicago Bear. Ricky Pearsall. I don't know if those guys

will ever line up on the field together. Is my, Yuk or Samuel might be gone. Ricky Peterson is my 13th ranked wide receiver. Wow. No offense. I didn't know this guy existed until

No offense, Evan, but if Kyle Shanahan liked him more than you, I'm probably going to trust Kyle Shanahan. That's also fair. Honestly, I'm really surprising. Over Adnai Mitchell, though, Troy Franklin and Ladd-McConkey. Yeah, that's a good point. Oh, the Panthers traded up with the bills. Honestly, what does this guy give you that third to take Ladd-McConkey? That's not a bat. It's Buffalo Day. If there's moved up one spot. What did the bills? Oh, and now the bills don't get to pick

tonight? The Panthers get a first round pick. Now the bills don't have one. All part of their plan. Lad? All part of their plan. Ladd-McConkie or Adonai Mitchell here and then the pills? Why? Because if they actually told them who they were going to pick, the bills are going to take a receiver and the Panthers are like, hey. David Tepper wants to make sense. Is another one of those, somebody else called Buffalo to move on Buffalo to say that they maybe wanted somebody? Carolina's going to draft another, or a big Olinman that Bryce. That's fine. That's fine. If they're not going to take, if they're going to take who you want, that's, that's a great draft.

Buffalo really didn't like the board then. Picking up a new. Well, they only move back one spot. I know, but just to trade back twice, really, like. Well, if the Panthers told them what they wanted to draft, and let's say it was Ladd-McConkey, and the bills really want Adonai Mitchell, then they still get their guy. Yeah. And they just, they just get a slightly better draft back. It's just somebody else calling up and saying, hey, we were willing to trade for this guy.

Cooper de Gene. Going back to the. Could be. I doubt it. They need some. You need another receiver probably. You need an ad-9 Mitchell right here. The Xavier Worthy thing.

Well, guys, it is 11.50. This is crazy. This is the fastest the draft has ever gone for me. Oh, same. I like a long shot. Outside Source football on Randy Fieldsdale, 101.1.7 FM. It's from pick 32.

The last pick of the night is in the last time we're in here. Can I recap some of the picks? Yes, please do. So pick 24, our glorious king, Terry and Arnold, to the Detroit Lions. Pick number 25, Jordan Morgan to the Packers. Pick number 26, Graham Barton,

Center to the... What he's listed here as the center? To the Bucks. Pick number 27, Darius Robin Edge to the Cardinals. Pick number 28, Xavier Worthy to the Chiefs. Pick number 29, Tyler Geithen,

to the Dallas Cowboys offensive tackle. Pick number 30, Ney Wiggins, cornerback to Baltimore Ravens. Pick number 31, wide receiver to the San Francisco 49ers. And now we are sitting here as Carolina has traded up one spot with Buffalo Bills, with the Buffalo Bills.

To select. To get back in the first round. They're moving on. A team that should have had the first overall pick is now picking last in the first round. So poetic. Koolaid McKinstree is still on the board. Kind of shocked about that. So is.

So is A.D. Mitchell. It's so crazy. And Johnny Newton. If we can get through the first round with having Kool-Aid McKinstree and Cooper de Gene still on the board, I would not be surprised if in the second round we see Green Bay trade up to try to get one of them. I don't disagree. It's kind of similar with what happened with Brian Burns last year in the Lions. Brian Burns fell like a lot of people had them getting mocked to the Packers at like 17 or 18.

Who I say? Brian Burns? Yeah. Sorry, Brian Branch. And then the Lions ended up trading up to get them at like 40 or 30 something. No, I thought they got him in like the third round. They got him in the late second. second round. Okay, late second? Okay. Like 40s, I think.

I just remember him being like a pretty confident first round pick and then not going in. When the Lions got him, way late. I don't know like that deep into the draft, but I knew. Brian Branch was? I knew Brian Branch. When the Lions got him, I was so happy. I mean, he was at least their

fourth pick, right? Because it was... He was their fourth pick, yeah. I mean, that had to have been what third round, fourth round? It was no, it was second. We had two seconds. Because they traded up. They traded up to get a second round pick. people forget that Levisco Schult Remember they had a second round pick That they got for trading back

They traded back And then got the Loperto one at like The second pick of the second round Yeah I forgot they traded back And then they had a different second round pick That they then traded up with To get Brian Branch Yeah

I'm catching a whiff of Spencer Rattler here To be You've been on fire all night Seven quarterbacks of the first round? No, that's... Dude, Roger Dnell's looking at this end. Like, are you kidding me, Panther? Fake smoke.

Really? Put away the crystal ball, Dan. He keeps looking at it going, are you sure? I'll put the fake crystal ball away and get the real one out and... He's pondering his orb right now. Ponder the orb and I'm under the gun here. I'll say, 80 Mitchell. I mean, that's a fair bet. I think. I'm with you on that. Either him or Ladman. Come on. Make me laugh. Make me laugh, Carolina.

Do something crazy. Tackle. Come on, Carolina. From slippery rock. Blake Corp. Number three. Blake Orm. Xavier Lackett. Country boy.

My God. Why is Ed and I Mitchell dropping right now? Teams don't like A.D. Mitchell. What do they know that we don't? Like I said, they know something. 6-1, 221. Xavier Ligette, kind of your classic classic South Carolina receiver.

Built like a tall running back. Wow. And he's very physical. Wow. And he's staying. They have. Staying close to home. Deonté Johnson.

Now, What makes you trade up to take Xavier Legat? I don't know. For one pick? They really wanted Xavier Leggett. I guess you wanted to. A.J. Brown upside. Somebody else calling in the Buffalo Bill saying,

He is huge. We want to trade up for Xavier Leggett. And you called out to Carolina and they say, well, we want Xavier Legat too, trade up one pick. He's a physical guy. I like this. This guy's gnarly as hell. This guy looks sweet.

Like I said, I think I agree with you guys. I think there's something on AD Mitchell that we don't know that teams are I mean, I don't really know anything. Does he have, like, health issues or something? Not health, but my knock on A.D. Mitchell... Why does he look so slow? He's slow. I think it's just because he's so big.

He just looks slow. He just looks slow. He moves pretty well. That was a nice route. That last route, though, looks pretty. He's probably just a big strider. Legate ran 439, so that's pretty darn good. Big strider. Yeah.

Anyway, to finish my thought on A.D. Mitchell, my problem with him was that he had all the size and all the athleticism, but the production was always just kind of eh. Like his last year at Texas was the only semi-decent season he had. You know, he transferred from Georgia, so I mean, like, I know, obviously teams didn't value him quite as much as the pre-draft buzz did. All right. Well, the first round of the NFL draft is over.

As you're listening to 101.1.7 FM, Ready for Hillsdale. So sad. As outside source football is. We're going to sign it. We're signing off. We're signing off. We're done. Yeah, we're going to. Who's the best players on the board available? Lloyd McKinth.

Lloyd McKinstreet. Cooper D. Christine. Johnny Newton. Johnny Newton. Apparently not A.D. Mitchell. I was going to say A.D. Mitchell, but maybe not. Maybe that's why the. Ladd. Codney.

Yeah. Jackson Powers Johnson. Jackson Powers Johnson. Oh, that's true. Maybe the reason that the bells keep trading down is because A.D. Mitchell is not. Yeah. Maybe he's the guy.

He's not the guy. Well, he's not the guy to other people, I guess, but he's their guy. Yeah. I mean, I'd imagine the bills are only keep, they only keep trading down because they're just not in love with anybody right now. Yeah. That too. At the price. They're still looking for.

They also need a lot of stuff. Their Super Bowl window is kind of closed, low-key. Yeah. Well, they got to reload. Yeah. They're moving into the second era of the Josh Allen, of Josh Allen's career. Yeah, where he's getting paid and there's different guys around him. Listen, if you got a guy like him, the windows never closed.

The window's never closed. You just got to rebuild the team around. Like the team around him is going to look different than it has the past couple of seasons. The draft, people forget, like, when contract issues come up, people get so upset when they got to let some of their big players walk. And the misconception is about sustained success is that you have to retain good players. You have to draft well. You have to draft well even when you are winning, you're making deep runs into the playoffs.

The Chiefs the last couple of years have drafted super well. The Chiefs have put together three dynamite drafts last three years. All defensive almost. And that's how you put together winning teams even after you let Tyreek walk. After you let Legerius Sneed walk. Yeah. The Chiefs have let a lot of guys walk and they just reload. They never, they're never rebuilding.

They're never rebuilding. They're just always reloading. It's not the mark of a cheap team. It's the mark of savvy team builders and people who can, especially people that can find value later in the draft. Right. The majority of your team is going to be built by guys. on day two and three. Yeah.

Well, thank you for listening to Outside Source Football on Ready Frielsdale. 101.1.7FM. Does anybody have any last things to say before we sign off on our... Lions win the draft. I just want to thank all of you. Obviously, Joe and Evan, I expected you here. Dan, Logan, Zach, Connor, Trev, E. Lee. You guys made this a lot of fun.

I had a great time. I don't know how many people were listening. I don't really care. I had a good draft. I was listening. Thank you. This was a blast. I could say you're in talk ball all night.

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