WSJ What’s News - For You This Banana Costs $1, For Her Its $1.50

Episode Date: August 25, 2026

A.M. Edition for Aug. 25. Two lawmakers detail their bipartisan bill to end personalized dynamic pricing in grocery stores, where AI is increasingly deciding whether Shopper A should pay more for the ...same product than Shopper B. Plus, the Supreme Court helps clear the way for President Trump’s restrictions on mail-in voting. WSJ supreme court reporter James Romoser explains what it could mean for the midterms. And, more companies are preparing to join Wall Street’s IPO bonanza. And Luke Vargas hosts. Sign up for the WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Supreme Court helps to clear the way for President Trump's restrictions on mail-in voting. Plus, more companies prepare to join Wall Street's IPO Bonanza, and will speak to a pair of congressmen pushing to end so-called personalized dynamic pricing in grocery stores. People are feeling crushed, right, between their utility bills, their food prices, their child care prices. And when they feel like the system is rigged against them, right, because, like something, beyond their control, which is what happens when they're being surveilled. It's Tuesday, August 25th. I'm Luke Vargas for the Wall Street Journal, and here is the AM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories moving your world today.
Starting point is 00:00:46 We begin in Washington, where the Supreme Court has cleared a legal hurdle for President Trump's mail-in voting restrictions ahead of November's midterms. The court ruled that a trial judge was wrong to block provisions from a March executive order, which the administration said it aimed to safeguard election integrity. That order asked the Department of Homeland Security to draw up lists of eligible voters and suggested that the Postal Service should refuse to deliver mail ballots in states that don't comply with the new rules. One really important development occurred just last Friday. The Postal Service issued a 95-page regulation implementing much of the, the executive order.
Starting point is 00:01:29 That's James Ramoser, who covers the Supreme Court for the journal, and he said there are concerns the new rules could disenfranchise some voters. Trump has repeatedly railed against mail-in voting. The states that are challenging these policies and voting rights groups say that the Postal Service has never before taken on such a direct role in monitoring ballots. And so trying to roll out such a massive, new and untested policy on such a tight time frame is bound to create all sorts of errors. James says the court's decision is unlikely to be the final word on the matter. And so I would expect further rulings on the substance of the Postal Service regulation.
Starting point is 00:02:14 If I were a betting man, I would bet in the coming weeks that this issue might rush right back up, right back to the Supreme Court. Trump administration is certainly trying its hardest to implement these policies before the midterms. Election day is just 10 weeks away, and well before that, states really need to start mailing out their ballots. So we're under an incredibly compressed timeline here. It's runoff day in South Carolina, where Trump-aligned Super Pack, Maga Inc. is spending big to boost Senator Darlene Graham, the sister of the late Lindsey Graham, as she tries to fend off a late push by Representative Ralph Norman. Maga Inc.'s $800,000 spent on Get Out the Vote Calls and text messages ahead of the GOP Senate runoff comes as the president looks to avoid an
Starting point is 00:03:03 embarrassing loss by a candidate that he'd encouraged to enter the race and campaign for last week. The real Republican Party is 100 percent. Make America credit. But they're only fighting, Darlene, because they want me to lose, which isn't fair. Meanwhile, Norman is receiving help from the Freedom Caucus Fund, which ran this ad highlighting Graham's recent debate stumble when she was pressed on America's national security interests in Taiwan and the South China Sea. I'm not that informed on national security. Darling Graham is a nice lady way out of her league. Ralph Normans, the proven Freedom Caucus conservative South Carolina needs now.
Starting point is 00:03:45 We'll get you the results from that race on tomorrow's pod. And the Trump administration is planning what could be the largest mass visa revolutions. in U.S. history, targeting up to 200,000 foreigners who had applied for asylum. Under the proposal, the State Department and Department of Homeland Security are reviewing all B-1 business and B-2 tourism visas to revoke them from individuals who entered the country for short-term visits and then filed for asylum. The plan follows a slate of other moves to tighten asylum rules and crackdown on immigration, including a higher H-1B visa fee we reported on yesterday, and the revocation of over 170.
Starting point is 00:04:23 thousand visas earlier this month. Bitcoin has hit a more than three-month high to crest $80,000, a milestone that follows months of subdued valuations for the world's largest cryptocurrency. Reporter Alexander Ossipovich says the rally is being partly fueled by mounting interest in the so-called debasement train. Bitcoin is doing really well right now. It wasn't doing much over the summer, and then suddenly it is up nearly 25% over the past week. last week's news about the U.S. Treasury Department's intervention in the bond market to suppress
Starting point is 00:04:59 interest rates was seen as bullish for Bitcoin. As investor, you can put money into a safe bond that yields you a predictable interest rate or you can put it into something risky that could give you a high return but could also collapse in value. And so to the extent that you're worried about the dollar losing its value and looking for other alternatives to put your wealth into, Bitcoin has often been a destination that's talked about. Well, so much for a quiet end to summer because the IPO push is heating up. We report that Smart Ringmaker, ORA, is now weighing a September or October public offering. Meanwhile, data center operator Switch and SB Energy, which develops and powers data centers,
Starting point is 00:05:41 are considering offerings by year's end, along with Duncan and Arby's owner, Inspire Brands. And the list goes on. Setting up with dealmaking reporter Ben Dummit says is on pace to be a record. IPO year. Essentially, the success of SpaceX has really set the stage for this buoyant IPO market this year. You know, in June they raised 86 billion. And we're awaiting the possibility of AI giant anthropic raising even more in its offering, which is being teased to investors now alongside, you know, bevy of smaller listings that you mentioned. Another key reason for this IPO market is private equity. They are loaded with a backlog of companies.
Starting point is 00:06:23 that they need to sell. And the market for actually selling assets has been proven difficult. So that's encouraging PE firms to look to the IPO market to sell some of these holdings. Furthermore, IPOs tend to fare well when the overall markets are buoyant. And that's the case. Despite the macro backdrop, which is uncertain to say the least, equity markets have done well. And South Korean carmaker Hyundai has reached a wage deal with its labor union, ending months of sporadic walkouts that had disrupted production and culminated in a full-day labor strike on Friday. The deal, which still needs union member approval, includes a salary bump, new annual bonuses, and a one-time payment of around $9,000.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Hyundai also suggested that it and the union had discussed the deployment of humanoid robots on some assembly lines in the coming years, though it didn't elaborate. Coming up as AI helps retailers experiment with dynamic pricing, a growing number of Americans are worrying their data is being used against them at checkout. After the break, we'll be joined by a pair of congressmen who've introduced a bipartisan bill to put an end to its summer calling surveillance pricing. Stick around. Equipped with digital price tags, a number of retailers are embracing dynamic pricing, enabling them to shift what they're charging for items day by day, hour by hour, or even minute by minute. And add to that the potential that those same businesses can use AI and piles of information.
Starting point is 00:07:57 that they have about shoppers for so-called surveillance pricing, where two people checking out the same product at the same time and maybe even in the same store might be charged differently depending on who a business thinks could pay more. Last week, the Federal Trade Commission issued a warning to retailers telling them that they needed to disclose if they were using detailed info about people to personalize prices. But since the FTC lacks the authority to ban that practice outright, a pair of lawmakers are taking matters into their own hands, introducing a bipartisan bill that would ban dynamic pricing by grocery stores and the service providers that deliver for them.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Its co-sponsors are New Jersey Democrat Josh Gottheimer and New York Republican Mike Lawler, and we're pleased to have both of them with us here on What's News. Congressman, what's the genesis of this bill? How did either of you hear about this in the first place? Well, Luke, this is Josh, and you said it best. Mike and I were talking about this issue, and we thought it was absolutely outrageous, that you could literally walk into a grocery store at the same time, go toward the shelf, and it would charge one, the store would charge one person, one price, and somebody else,
Starting point is 00:09:04 a higher price. And obviously we have a problem with that, as the FTC announced that they do as well. And, you know, so we put a piece of legislation together called No-rigged Grocery Prices Act to say, I don't think so. You can't do that. We think it's not exactly what people bargain for. Congressman Luller, I just want to make sure I understand this distinction, which is between personalized dynamic pricing and then, I guess, regular dynamic pricing,
Starting point is 00:09:28 just a grocery store, or any sort of retailer, for instance, just simply changing prices in response to supply and demand. Correct, which is, look, technology has changed. And to be able to update your prices in a timely and efficient manner versus having to, you know, relabel every product on the shelves, we understand that. Businesses, you know, are going to look for ways. to reduce, you know, time and efficiencies. But the fact is that they should not be doing it in a way that gouges customers.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And that's why the bill doesn't, you know, outright ban digital prices. But it does say that you can't use it for the purpose of surveillance pricing. Yeah, and just adding to that, of course, if you have a rewards card or something else where they give you a benefit, you know, there's a lot of good data. that's used in a good way. And as Mike said, AI can be very helpful and beneficial if used the right way. I think the problem is when it's used in a predatory way, or as Mike said, when it gouges you, that's the kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:10:36 We're not looking for predatory pricing, and we think that there's a line to be drawn there when you take advantage of somebody. They buy a banana every week. You know, they buy bananas. So you decide, oh, they're going to come in and buy bananas this week. Oh, we can nail them for a little bit more because we've learned that about them. And that's the kind of thing where you want to draw the line and say this is not how this should be used against people. Since you took the lead in crafting this, why start with grocery stores?
Starting point is 00:11:01 I mean, it's obviously kind of the quintessential kitchen table issue. But isn't this happening in airfare and all sorts of other things? Listen, there's a big difference between, you know, market price and creating a price solely to target an individual. You know, if we're all on the open market and we can look at the competition and we can make choices based on, you know, where a product may be cheaper, that's one thing. It's another thing when I'm going into the store and the store all of a sudden says, oh, Mike's coming in. I'm going to raise the prices 25% on the things I know Mike previously bought. That's crazy. And I think most Americans are adamantly opposed to that.
Starting point is 00:11:46 and would support this legislation overwhelmingly. You've both mentioned that you believe people are on your side here, that they're behind efforts to rein in dynamic and surveillance pricing. What are your colleagues saying about this, Bill? Is there momentum to deal with this in Congress? Look, I think this is certainly an issue that is becoming more in focus. I think as both Josh and I are out in our districts, you know, people are concerned about AI. They're concerned about data centers.
Starting point is 00:12:15 These conversations are happening. And I think voters are becoming more acutely aware. And obviously the cost of living continues to be a major focus and priority for voters, especially around everyday essentials like groceries. I think more and more this conversation is going to increase. And I think there will be pressure on Congress to act and to actually implement this bill. And again, what we're trying to do is we're not. against dynamic pricing. We're not saying that's not, you know, reasonable. And we're not against
Starting point is 00:12:50 digital, you know, use of digital prices. What we're saying is they cannot be surveilling people for the purpose of raising prices and gouging them and engaging in predatory behavior. And that's what this bill seeks to prohibit. I've been speaking to Congressman Mike Loller, Republican from New York and Josh Godheimer, Democrat from New Jersey, Congressman. Thank you both so much for being with us on What's News. Thanks for having us. Thanks for having us. Great to see you. And that's it for What's News for this Tuesday morning. Today's show was produced by Hattie Moyer and Daniel Bach.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Our supervising producer is Sandra Kilhoff, and I'm Luke Vargas for the Wall Street Journal. We will be back tonight with the news show. And until then, thanks for listening.

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