WSJ What’s News - How Trump’s Policies Could Ripple Through the Housing Market

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

A.M. Edition for Dec. 5. Home builders are warning that Donald Trump’s pledge to deport millions of undocumented immigrants and introduce new tariffs on U.S. imports could have a chilling effect on ...the industry. The WSJ’s Elizabeth Findell says this could push up already-elevated housing costs. Plus, Pete Hegseth says he’s “not going anywhere” as he fights to salvage his bid to become Trump’s defense secretary. And Bitcoin smashes the $100,000 ceiling thanks to hopes of a crypto-friendly Washington. Kate Bullivant hosts. Sign up for the WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:31 And how the president-elect's proposed immigration and trade policies could ripple through the housing market. Construction leaders are bracing for this causing the cost of housing to go up, which is problematic because actually lowering the cost of housing was a large part of the campaign. It's Thursday, December 5th. I'm Kate Bulevant for the Wall Street Journal filling in for Luke Vargas. And here is the AM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories moving your world today. The hunt for a suspect continues after United Health Care CEO Brian Thompson was shot dead yesterday outside a hotel in New York City
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Starting point is 00:06:47 Coming up, the construction industry could face a double whammy from Trump's immigration and trade policies. We take a look at how serious the blow could be after the break. Get groceries delivered across the GTA from real Canadian Superstore with PC Express. Shop online for super prices and super savings. Try it today and get up to $75 in PC optimum points. Visit superstore.ca to get started. The construction industry is bracing for a one-two punch if President-elect Donald Trump makes good on his promise to deport millions of undocumented immigrants and to introduce a new wave of tariffs on imports. To help us unpack what this means for builders and for an already tight housing market,
Starting point is 00:07:38 we're joined by journal reporter Elizabeth Findell. Elizabeth, why are people within the construction industry particularly worried about the immigration and trade policies that have been outlined by Trump? Right, yeah. People are worried because immigrants have always made up a significant portion of folks who work in construction and many of them are undocumented. There are official estimates of some 13% of the construction industry being undocumented workers.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Many of the builders that I've talked to said that by far the majority of workers who do a lot of the sort of basic work of things like framing houses and laying pipe are people who don't have documentation. And so if those folks were deported, or even frightened enough that they weren't able to work, constructors would have a difficult time filling those positions. Building houses on the tariff side, Trump has proposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico, which could impact construction materials. A lot of wood is imported from Canada.
Starting point is 00:08:50 There's a lot of steel that is imported. Overall, about 7.3% of home building materials are imported, according to the National Association of Home Builders. So construction leaders are bracing for this causing the cost of housing to go up, which is problematic because actually lowering the cost of housing was a large part of the campaign. So have Trump and his team said anything about the impact of these policies? Not specifically. They have just said that they are going to work quickly to restore the economy. They've talked about reshoring American jobs, lowering inflation, raising wages, lowering taxes, cutting regulations. And can we look to the past for any examples of how similar policies have played out before?
Starting point is 00:09:38 Well, we've seen deportation efforts before. A study by the universities of Utah and Wisconsin found that when about 300,000 undocumented immigrants were deported between 2008 and 2013, the counties that were affected lost about a year's worth of construction on average and new home prices went up 20%. Okay, so what could this mean for the housing market? Trump has pledged to deport millions this time around. Yes, it's fairly clear from the builders that I talked to that if millions of people are deported and they include some of those construction workers or their family members, that is going
Starting point is 00:10:19 to mean higher home prices. And it will just cool the industry overall at a time when there has been a real push to get more housing built because there are shortages in many parts of the country. And places where we're seeing a lot of growth, particularly in Texas, housing prices have already gone up significantly. And so if you add to that by making the materials more expensive, reducing the workforce so that you can't build houses as quickly or you have to pay higher wages, all of that makes housing more expensive. – And Elizabeth Trump frequently claimed on the campaign trail that immigrants are taking jobs from American workers. And yet, when it comes to construction at least, you report that builders are
Starting point is 00:11:09 already struggling to fill jobs. Yeah, builders are very concerned about finding workers and most builders told me that even when they're paying good wages and even when unemployment in the country is very high, most native born Americans just aren't willing to take the most physically difficult jobs, particularly in areas of the country when they're doing them outside in over 100 degree heat. That was Journal Reporter Elizabeth Findel. Elizabeth, thanks so much for your time. Thank you. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And that's it for What's News for Thursday morning. Today's show was produced by Daniel I appreciate it.

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