WSJ What’s News - Judge Orders White House to Pay for SNAP Food Benefits

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

A.M. Edition for Nov. 7. A federal judge mandated that the administration release full SNAP funds by Friday, but officials are appealing the order, even as millions of Americans await aid. Plus, we lo...ok at what nuclear testing looks like in 2025, as WSJ correspondent Thomas Grove explains what recent threats between Washington and Moscow mean. And air passengers brace for chaos as flight cancellations across the U.S. take hold. Caitlin McCabe hosts. Sign up for the WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:42 Plus, a federal judge orders the Trump administration to fully fund food stamp benefits by today. And we unpack what's behind the recent nuclear testing threats from Moscow and Washington. It's very much about political signaling and trying to make sure that the other side understands where the red lines are. It's Friday, November 7th. I'm Caitlin McCabe for the Wall Street Journal, and here is the AM edition of What's News. The top headlines and business stories moving your world today. Tesla shareholders have approved CEO Elon Musk's $1 trillion pay package, with the announcement coming at the EV-Makers' annual meeting held in Austin, Texas. Tesla reporter Becky Peterson says Musk took to the stage,
Starting point is 00:01:30 flanked by dancing humanoid robots to thank shareholders who supported the package, despite the measure being hotly debated, with some large shareholders taking opposing sides. The general counsel said that 75% of the votes cast were in favor of the package, which could be worth as much as $1 trillion or 12% of the company for Musk if he hits all of the goals in the package. Now, that also includes votes from Musk himself. He owns about 15% of the company right now. So outside of Musk, we see around 60% of the votes castes were in favor of the package. Also on the docket at yesterday's meeting was a proposal asking Tesla's board to make an investment in Musk's AI startup XAI.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Becky explains that shareholders gave mixed support to the idea with confusion remaining over whether or not the board had passed the proposal. The GC said basically that while most shares, were cast in favor. There were a lot of voters who abstained from voting. And he emphasized that this was a non-bidening proposal and that the board would take this feedback from shareholders into consideration. So he's sort of saying, like, don't expect investment based off of this news. We still don't know exactly what percentage of shareholders voted for what. And we also don't know yet how most of the large institutional shareholders voted. Musk had publicly endorsed the idea as he seeks to catch up in the AI race, adding that he
Starting point is 00:03:04 plans to transform Tesla from an EV maker into a robotics and AI juggernaut. The extended fight over food assistance benefits has a new wrinkle, with a federal judge ordering the Trump administration to fully fund SNAP benefits for November by today. earlier this week, the White House said it would use roughly $4.6 billion from a contingency fund to pay partial food stamp benefits, which is a little more than half of the program's $8 billion monthly cost. But the government said it could take weeks or months for states to calculate and distribute the reduced payments to the 42 million Americans who use them. The administration declined to use other funds to make up the shortfall. Judge John McConnell chided the government yesterday, saying the white, House violated last week's order requiring the government to tap emergency funds and, quote, expeditiously pay benefits. He ordered the administration to find another funding source to make up the gap. The administration's lawyers said they would appeal. Separately, Vice President J.D. Vance criticized the order. It's an absurd ruling because you have a federal judge effectively telling us what we
Starting point is 00:04:18 have to do in the midst of a Democrat government shutdown, which what we'd like to do is for the Democrats to open up the government, of course, then we can fund SNAP. And we can also do a lot of other good things for the American people. But in the midst of a shutdown, we can't have a federal court telling the president how he has to triage the situation. Across the country, people like Nazir Koli in New Jersey have lined up at food banks and pantries for assistance and have pleaded for the government to find a resolution. My message to the people in Washington would be just to get it together. We need to all work together. Regardless of whose side we're on, we all. We all all need to work together as people, human beings.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Eight handful of states, including Louisiana, Virginia, and Vermont have used their own funding to continue payments to snap recipients. But as of Tuesday, roughly a dozen states, most of them Republican-led hadn't taken any steps to cover the shortfall. That includes Georgia and Florida, where about 13% of the population relies on the benefits. Meanwhile, the government shutdowns effects are being. felt by air travelers today as the Federal Aviation Administration's traffic reduction plans start to take effect. We expect a 4% decrease in air traffic beginning on Friday, and that should be phased in over the next week, up to 10%. Airlines are very concerned that this could lead to a lot of
Starting point is 00:05:44 delays and chaos and concern among air travelers ahead of the busy Thanksgiving travel season. Look for this to affect mostly regional flights. We do not expect this to affect long-haul flights or international travel. The Journal's national political reporter Ken Thomas there explaining how this traffic reduction will be rolled out with the full 10% traffic reduction expected by November 14th. Some of the nation's busiest airports are among those affected, including in Atlanta, Chicago, and New York. As of last night, airlines had canceled more than. 520 of today's flights, according to data from aviation analytics company, Syria, with airlines now notifying travelers and pledging to automatically rebook them. Coming up, we dig into the
Starting point is 00:06:36 escalating nuclear testing rhetoric coming out of the U.S. and Russia recently. Plus, a look at the race inside workplaces to become AI power users. Both of those stories after the break. A little over a week ago, President Trump made an unusual announcement. He had ordered the Pentagon to start testing America's nuclear weapons. The announcement immediately raised lots of questions. Did Trump mean the weapons themselves or the missiles and other delivery systems that carry them? Regardless, it didn't take long for Russia to respond with Russian President Vladimir Putin this week, ordering security officials to draw up plans for potential nuclear weapons testing should Trump follow through.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Thomas Grove covers the confrontation between Russia and the West for the journal, and he joins me now to unpack what all of this means. Thomas, obviously a very extraordinary announcement from Trump last week. Can you bring us up to speed about what he and his administration have said since then? So since Trump's true social posting, which really caught attention, inside the United States and around the world, the administration has been trying to clarify exactly what Trump meant. And basically, we had the energy secretary, Chris Wright, come out earlier this week and talked a little bit about what would be happening. And he went on to say that these are going to be not nuclear explosions. And this basically shows the amount of wiggle
Starting point is 00:08:08 room there is between big weapons testing in deserts like we've seen in films and basically what happens in a laboratory, a very large-scale science experiment, so to speak. And so what does that mean sort of practically speaking? Do we have an idea of what testing will look like, for example, where it will happen or how it will work? So both leaders are looking with their statements to make a pretty clean break with the status quo. As of October, basically there was a comprehensive nuclear test ban tree that's been an effect for decades. And the United States has signed up to it. It's never ratified it. Russia has signed up to it. It ratified it. But then withdrew, it's. ratification in 2023, but promise that it would abide by that treaty. And so we both basically had this ban on nuclear testing. And so this is about tests in the atmosphere, tests on the ground, tests underground for that matter. But I think any nuclear testing will still probably be done in a very small scale. And so now Putin has responded, do we know what Russia is looking
Starting point is 00:09:10 to do here? So this exchange of veiled and unveiled nuclear threats, it's basically gotten to the point where Trump has said that he wants to start retesting the U.S.'s nuclear arsenal, Putin has told his security counsel, well, we should be thinking about doing the same then. And Putin gave the order to start looking at draft proposals. You know, how are we going to do this? How are we going to restart nuclear testing? And one of the points that he made very strongly was that this was all contingent on whether the U.S. restarts its testing. So there really is a big back and forth here, and they're really looking at each other very closely. I think when listeners hear to two major countries talking about this kind of thing. It definitely is a bit alarming. Is this all
Starting point is 00:09:53 just sort of signaling at this point? Or what does this tell us about wider relations between Russia and the U.S.? So we should look at the fact that Russia and the United States are the world's two biggest nuclear powers. And there's thousands of warheads between them. Obviously, very scary when we start to hear the leaders talk about their own nuclear arsenals. I do think at this point, though, because this comes down to Ukraine and Trump's stance on Ukraine and Putin stands on Ukraine, it's very much about political signaling and trying to make sure that the other side understands where the red lines are, which doesn't mean that we're getting to, you know, a nuclear exchange, but what we're talking about in terms of aid to Ukraine, most likely. Speaking of the war in Ukraine, we're reporting that Russia's army is on the verge of its biggest Ukrainian conquest in more than two years, the southeastern city of Pukrovsk. Can you tell us about that? The Ukrainian city of Pukrovsk is very important right now for both sides. It's with the juncture of some rail and road lines that make it very important to the rest of the region. And Putin has made it very clear that he wants to conquer all of eastern Ukraine. So with a potential win, for Russia there. I mean, it really puts Putin in a very strong position. On one hand, it shows
Starting point is 00:11:10 Trump and the people of Russia that they're winning in the war. And it also makes Putin a lot less likely to come to the negotiating table anytime soon. It really does provide the Russian military with some benefits in the short to medium term that I'm sure that they'll be looking to use. That's the journal's Thomas Grove. Thomas, thanks for joining us. Thank you. And finally, a new breed of employee is emerging in the workplace, the so-called AI power users. These savvy workers are impressing bosses and leaving their colleagues in the dust as they race to make the most of artificial intelligence. Journal columnist Callum Bortcher says these savvy workers aren't necessarily better at their jobs. They've just made a point of experimenting with AI tools.
Starting point is 00:11:59 to get more done and faster. So I talked to some of these power users about specific ways that they use AI to make themselves productive, and often they've picked up tips from one another. So somebody like Sal Abdullah, for example, who has a small accounting software startup, is taking an AI tool like ChatGPT
Starting point is 00:12:17 and having it essentially function as a brain. So you might use ChatGPT to automatically import your quarterly financial data that you keep in Google Sheets, let's say. It goes straight into a, its Quickbook software via ChatGPT, and then ChatGPT pulls the resulting data back out of QuickBooks and can analyze it instantly against the results of previous earnings reports. He says it sounds pretty advanced, but it's pretty doable even for somebody like him who's not a software
Starting point is 00:12:48 engineer. Callum added that it comes at a time when employers are getting more blunt about the threat AI poses to the job market, hailing the warning that if a bot doesn't replace you, then a human who makes better use of AI will. And on that cautionary note, we've wrapped up what's news for this Friday morning. Additional sound in this episode was from Reuters. Today's show is produced by Kate Bolivant. Our supervising producer was Sandra Kilhoff.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And I'm Caitlin McCabe for The Wall Street Journal. We'll be back tonight with the new show. Until then, have a great weekend and thanks for listening. Thank you.

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