WSJ What’s News - Money Is Flying Out of Private Credit. That’s Bad News for Wall Street.

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

P.M. Edition for Mar. 13. Private credit has, in recent years, been a huge engine for growth on Wall Street. Now, WSJ reporter Matt Wirz says it’s sputtering as investors pull money out of big funds.... Plus, the Pentagon is moving more Marines and warships to the Middle East. And in a victory for the Federal Reserve, a judge throws out two Justice Department subpoenas issued to the central bank as part of a probe into Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell. Alex Ossola hosts. Sign up for the WSJ's free What's News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Money is pouring out of private credit, and some investors are finding it's complicated to pull their cash. Redemption started to go up, and then all of a sudden investors, at least some of them, woke up to the fact that, oh, wait, I might not be able to get all my money out when I want it. I better put in for it now, and then it just kind of built and built. Plus, a federal judge throws out subpoenas issued to the Federal Reserve in a heavy blow to the Justice Department's criminal investigation in to Jerome Powell. And the Pentagon is moving more troops and ships to the Middle East. It's Friday, March 13th. I'm Alex Osala for the Wall Street Journal. This is the PM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories that move the world today.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Two data points are out today from the Commerce Department on the U.S. economy. GDP for the end of last year was revised down to 0.7% growth, well short of the 1.4% pace initially reported. And the personal consumption expenditures price index, the Fed's preferred measure for inflation, was 2.8% in January. That's a slight decline from December, but still above the central bank's target. And those numbers are, of course, before the Iran War, which has raised energy prices. WSJ economics reporter Matt Grossman says that because of the war, this inflation data isn't as helpful to economists and policymakers. As everyone who's driven in the last couple weeks knows, gas prices are already a lot higher. So I think this report best serves as a baseline for where things stood before the war.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Things were already a bit hotter than the Fed wanted in January, and economists are on the edge of their seat to see how much of an increase we get once we get the March data. Matt says the war may affect the Fed's thinking. The Fed in January felt their policy was in a decent place to watch inflation gradually fall back to that 2% level over the course of the year. year. And maybe they could find opportunities for a cut or two. Of course, that was before we knew this war in Iran was coming. The fear would be that not only does that translate into higher gas prices, but higher prices for everything else, too, because so much of what we buy has to get shipped. So at the margin, traders have seen the war news as being more on the pessimistic side for actually getting those recuts this year.
Starting point is 00:02:27 The continuing war in the Middle East and worries about its economic repercussions weighed on stocks today and pushed up oil prices. Brent crude, the global oil benchmark, rose 2.7 percent to more than $103 a barrel. Since the attacks between the U.S. and Iran started nearly two weeks ago, Brent prices have surged more than 40 percent. The NASDAQ led the day's losses in the U.S. stock indexes, falling 0.9%. All three indexes finished lower for the week, with the Dow, posting the steepest level. losses. It ended down 0.2%. Private credit has, in recent years, powered massive growth on Wall Street. Now, though, that engine has been sputtering. Investors are trying to pull money out of big funds, endangering firms' future profits. For more on what's driving the run on private credit,
Starting point is 00:03:21 I'm joined now by Matt Wirtz, who covers credit for the journal. Matt, to remind people, private credit is loans made by private fund managers to corporations, financial institutions, and sometimes even consumers that were traditionally made by banks. So why this rush of redemptions? Why is this happening and why now? Well, on Wall Street, they love to say, like, what inning are we in? And I think this is a reflection of broader investor angst. There's a sense that valuations are quite high that maybe we're in, like, the seventh or the eighth inning of this, like, boom in both credit markets and also in equity markets. What makes private credit different is that it's mostly sold to individual
Starting point is 00:04:03 investors through these funds that unlike mutual funds limit the speed at which you can withdraw your investment. And that's because the assets in the funds are these private loans that are actually kind of hard to sell. So it's a structure that makes sense. However, when these products were sold, from what I've heard talking to numerous financial advisors, brokers, some investors were very aware that these funds that they were buying would limit the speed at which they could take out their money. And then some people, they weren't. They were just told, hey, you can get 11% yield on this and it's holding really safe, senior secured loans. And it's the top-notch asset manager. And that's why we're seeing, I think, the pandemonium that we're seeing right now.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Was there a particular catalyst for this or people just sort of woke up one morning and they're like, oh, what's happening to my money? You know, I've been hearing a lot about behavioral economics when I talk to the fund managers and the regulators. This seems to be a lot about investor psychology. There's this belief I need to get out before everyone else gets out. And the catalyst for this was oddly these strange little frauds that happened in the credit market, but not just in the private credit market, but there were these companies like First Brands and Tricolor. Those events started to trigger the spidey sense for some investors. Redemption started to go up. And then all of a sudden, investors, at least some of them,
Starting point is 00:05:33 woke up to the fact that, oh, wait, I might not be able to get all my money out when I want it. I better put in for it now. And then it just kind of built and built. Most of the analysts that I spoke to think that the next quarter, the second quarter of 26, is going to be worse than the first, and that will likely be the peak. This is a very new industry, and it's going through growing pains. There had been this big push last year to start, including,
Starting point is 00:06:00 including these kinds of investments in 401ks, for example. And this, what we're seeing now, shows the dangers of doing that without having the right structure and the right education in place. That was WSJ reporter, Matt Words. Thanks, Matt. All right. Thanks, Alex. Coming up, the latest on Iran and the Justice Department's investigation into the Fed, plus how prediction platforms are supercharging Oscar Spets.
Starting point is 00:06:24 That's after the break. The Pentagon is moving more Marines and warships to the Middle East as Iran steps up its attacks on the Strait of Hormuz. Three U.S. officials said that Defense Secretary Pete Hexheath has approved sending units that typically consist of several warships and 5,000 Marines and sailors. In an interview with Fox News Radio that aired today, host Brian Kilmead asked President Trump how he'll know when the conflict is over. When I feel it, I feel it in my bones. As for the refueling aircraft crash that we told you about this morning, all six crew members who were aboard the plane have now died. The U.S. military says 13 service members have been killed in action during the Iran conflict.
Starting point is 00:07:16 The U.S. and its European allies are diverging on Russia. Europe sees Russia as a greater threat than Iran. German Chancellor Friedrich Merz became the latest European leader to criticize the Trump administration today. He said the U.S. decision to temporarily. rarely lift Russian sanctions to ease pressure on oil prices was a bad one. As you all know, we had a video conference with the G7 leaders on Wednesday, and six out of seven were clearly the opinion that we should not release the sanctions against Russia. And we were a little bit surprised that we heard this morning that the American government
Starting point is 00:08:04 government decided differently. The Iran war has helped increase Russian energy revenues thanks to the surge in oil prices. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant said the sanctions relief is designed to increase the global reach of the existing supply of oil. And a federal judge ruled today that a pair of subpoenas, the Justice Department issued to the Federal Reserve, were improper. A big blow to the government's investigation. U.S. attorney Janine Piro opened the criminal investigation into Fed Chair Jerome Powell to examine whether Powell gave false testimony to Congress last summer. The judge and Obama appointee
Starting point is 00:08:38 wrote in his decision that the purpose of the subpoenas was, quote, to harass and pressure Powell either to yield to the president or to resign. Piro said she would appeal. And finally, the Oscars are this weekend. There's long been a tradition of betting on the winners at house parties or in office pools. Now that's getting turbocharged on prediction market platforms
Starting point is 00:09:03 like Kalshi and Polly Market. And people are putting serious money behind it. Between Kalshi on Polly Market, volume on Oscars' bets has topped $100 million and growing. I'm joined now by WSJ Entertainment reporter John Jorgensen. John, what are the kinds of things that people are betting on on these platforms? Well, think of the fact that there are 24 official Oscar categories, so they're betting on all those categories. But then there's all kinds of extra stuff, including what people might say, who might show up, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Pretty much anything you can imagine that might be at the Oscars, people are betting. on it. In terms of individual bets, did it sound like people were really putting a lot of money behind this or it's just kind of like a hobby thing to do? Well, most people that I spoke to who are really just dabbling in the prediction markets for the first time are putting down the kind of wagers that you would see at your annual Oscar parties, five bucks, ten bucks, 20 bucks here and there. Not huge risks, but they're hoping for some upside if like upsets happen in the race itself. Who are betters banking on for Best Picture, which I assume is one of the biggest categories? It is in terms of trading volume, that is definitely the biggest category.
Starting point is 00:10:14 So, yeah, the trading and betting is really circulating around the two frontrunners, sinners, and one battle after another. And what about you? Where is your theoretical money going on the Best Picture Race? I do think it's going to be one battle. Paul Thomas Anderson is a really respected filmmaker, and people think it's kind of like, quote unquote, his time. but Sinners has made a really strong showing and it really could pull someone out. That was WSJ Entertainment reporter John Juergenson.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Thanks, John. You're welcome. And that's What's News for this week. Tomorrow you can look out for our weekly markets wrap up, What's News and Markets? Then on Sunday we'll be discussing how American women are doing professionally and economically. That's In What's News Sunday.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And we'll be back with our regular show on Monday morning. Today's show was produced by Pierre Bienname with Supervising producer Talley Arbell. Michael LaValle wrote our theme music. Ishael-Muslim is our development producer. Chris Zinsley is our deputy editor, and Falana Patterson is the Wall Street Journal's head of news audio. I'm Alex Osala.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Have a great weekend, and thanks for listening.

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