WSJ What’s News - U.S. Stocks Soar as President Trump Pauses Some Tariffs

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

P.M. Edition for April 9. U.S. stocks stage a furious rally after Trump announces a 90-day pause on reciprocal tariffs. WSJ investing columnist Spencer Jakab discusses the market reaction, and markets... reporter Ryan Dezember breaks down what the tariff pause means in practice, as China was a big exception to the pause, with Trump saying the tariff rate on Chinese goods was now 125%. And, no matter what the tariff rate is, putting new levies into practice will make the act of importing much more complicated. Liz Young, who covers logistics and the supply chain for the Journal, walks us through how it works. Alex Ossola hosts. Sign up for the WSJ's free What's News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 US markets rally after President Trump announces a 90-day pause on most retaliatory tariffs. People were jumping a little bit out of line. They were getting yippy, you know, they were getting a little bit yippy, a little bit afraid. But Trump escalates the trade war with China, raising its tariff rate to 125%. While sort of lost maybe in the rejoice of the concessions and the pause that Trump has made this afternoon, that's still to come and to play out and we're going to see a lot of businesses hurt by this. And no matter what the rate is, new tariffs make the process of importing goods way more complicated. It's Wednesday, April 9th. I'm Alex Osceola for The Wall Street Journal. This is the PM edition of What's News,
Starting point is 00:00:49 the top headlines and business stories that move the world today. President Trump said this afternoon that he has authorized a 90-day pause on reciprocal tariffs for all trading partners except China, sparking a broad-based market rally due to the temporary reprieve from the trade war. On his Truth Social platform,
Starting point is 00:01:08 the president said that reciprocal tariffs will also be lowered to 10% effective immediately. That won't be the case for China, he said, which now faces a 125% tariff. Trump said his decision to pause the tariffs was based on the fact that more than 75 countries have engaged with representatives of his administration to open negotiations regarding trade, trade barriers, tariffs, currency manipulation, and other matters.
Starting point is 00:01:33 The president excluded China from the 90-day pause, saying in his post that the world's second-largest economy had shown a lack of respect throughout the tariff skirmish and would now face even loftier levies. At a news conference after the announcement, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessend was asked by reporters why President Trump chose to pause these tariffs now. President Trump created maximum negotiating leverage for himself and which tariffs went into effect 15 hours ago, the ones that we have lowered went into effect a week ago. They were announced a week ago and we've just been overwhelmed, overwhelmed by the response from mostly our allies who want to come and negotiate
Starting point is 00:02:14 in good faith. So we are expecting them to come with their best deal. As I said a week ago today, don't retaliate, hold your ground, let's see what happens. And China, they kept escalating and escalating, and now they have 125% tariffs that will be effective immediately. Mr. Secretary. Ryan Dezembre, who covers markets for the journal, told me that while markets are celebrating, what it means in practice remains to be seen. Wall Street's sort of still figuring it out. A lot of analysts and investors seem to be operating under the impression that the 10%
Starting point is 00:02:50 tariffs blanket are still on, tariffs on specific items and sectors like autos and steel are still on, but that those big 50 and 40% on every country you can think of, that those are on pause. And really the market, what we're seeing is it seems to be celebrating the fact that there's maybe a pain threshold or a willingness to back down on some of these to negotiate. Of course, this still leaves a huge escalation
Starting point is 00:03:15 in the trade war with China. And that while sort of lost maybe in the rejoice of the concessions and the pause that Trump has made this afternoon, that's still to come and to play out. And I would expect that we're gonna see a lot of businesses hurt by this. Next month's jobs report is gonna be really enlightening
Starting point is 00:03:34 in terms of small businesses and importers and how they're faring and whether they're able to keep their staffing at such a high level as it's been for a few years. The market, once we get past this sort of overall celebration, will start to look at individual companies and parse the winners and losers. They'll start to see which companies can't do without China. US stocks stage a historic rally after days of market turmoil, gaining roughly $5.1 trillion
Starting point is 00:04:04 in market cap today, the largest one-day market cap gain on record. The Nasdaq roared ahead over 12 percent, the S&P 500 added nearly 10 percent, and the Dow moved about 8 percent higher, adding more than 2,900 points, its largest one-day point gain on record. I'm joined now by investing columnist Spencer Jacob. point gain on record. I'm joined now by investing columnist Spencer Jacob. Well, Spencer today offered some good news on tariffs that investors seem to really be
Starting point is 00:04:32 hankering for. Yeah, that's putting it mildly. It was news that they were hankering for and the reaction was the most violent reaction, positive reaction that I've ever seen in stock markets. So obviously everything is up, up, up today. How sustainable really is this, especially given this escalation of the trade war with China? We're down 3. something percent since the Liberation Day announcement. We're down less than 10 percent from the peak. So we never actually closed in a bear market 20 percent
Starting point is 00:05:03 from the peak. To be down 3.8%, that's fair. That's actually getting off very mildly. So when we resume trading, we could see more declines when people have time to think about it. The sort of reaction that we saw today is exaggerated by how people are positioned because people got very, very defensive. And so when you have this kind of sudden reversal, this piece of news that's a bombshell like this, the announcement that tariffs would be suspended for a while,
Starting point is 00:05:30 it can elicit a reaction that's in excess of the economic benefit of the news itself. When smoke clears tomorrow, not like we've had in the last few days, we might resume a downward trend because this all has been a hit to the economy, not just the tariffs themselves, but the chaos and the uncertainty surrounding the tariffs. That was WSJ investing columnist Spencer Jacob. Thanks so much, Spencer. Hey, thanks for having me. President Trump's new batch of tariffs went into effect at midnight last night.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Of course, the president's announcement of a 90-day pause on them this morning will change things for most nations, but already some governments had responded to the tariffs. This morning, China said it's raising its additional tariff on U.S. goods from 34 percent to 84 percent, matching what was at the time the latest level imposed by the White House. Beijing also issued warnings for citizens considering travel or studying in the U.S., a sign that China wants to put pressure on America's tourism and education sectors. And the European Union member states approved earlier today an initial list of U.S. goods that will be subject to tariffs to match the value of U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs that went into effect last month. Goods including soybeans and orange juice are in the EU's firing line, though American
Starting point is 00:06:47 whiskey has been taken off the list. Coming up, changing tariff rates aside, how does the U.S. actually collect levies? That's after the break. INTRO Starting at 12.01 this morning, President Trump's retaliatory tariffs went into effect. Yes, he effectively dropped most of them to 10% this afternoon, though the tariffs on goods from China are even higher now than they were this morning. No matter whether they stay this way, more tariffs makes the actual process of calculating and paying for them much more complicated. Liz Young, who covers logistics and supply chains for the journal, joins us now. Liz, how will this all work?
Starting point is 00:07:34 So the tariffs taking effect just after midnight today means that any shipments that left the country of origin after that point will be eligible for these tariffs. So goods that were already on a ship, already on the water, already on their way to the US will be exempted from these new tariffs. You know, if a shipment's being delivered by air, it'll be a little faster, but certainly it'll take days or weeks for these tariffs to really fully come into effect.
Starting point is 00:08:02 How are the new tariffs making the importing process more complicated? It's more complicated because now companies that may not have traditionally had to pay tariffs or that may have paid quite minimal tariffs are having to go through their books again, work with these licensed customs brokers and figure out what is the actual duty rate we need to be prepared to pay. How do we pay it? They have to calculate those levies themselves and then make payment. So they are responsible for making sure that it's the correct amount.
Starting point is 00:08:30 This isn't a case where the US sends them a bill and they pay it online. It's a little more complicated than that. Companies that may have only previously had to calculate one duty rate may now have to calculate three or four or more. So items that contain steel, for example, they might have a separate line item based on how much steel is in that item. And then
Starting point is 00:08:50 the country they come from, if it's China, for example, it would have several other duties on top of that. So this is making a process that might have previously been, you know, let's say 10% for any item imported is now several line items that they have to go through and calculate. How are companies contending with this? Companies are grappling with this largely by relying on licensed customs brokers. Customs brokers specialize in this.
Starting point is 00:09:14 They have to set up their systems too, so it's been something where they have to kind of race to get ready for this, but they are skilled and ready to help with the importing paperwork, help with calculating the duty rate, help with facilitating payment. And most companies rely on those brokers to help them navigate this. That was WSJ Reporter Liz Young. Thanks so much, Liz. Thank you. And that's what's news for this Wednesday afternoon.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Today's show is produced by Pierre Bienimé and Anthony Bansi with supervising producer Michael Kosmitis. I'm Alex Osila for The Wall Street Journal. We'll be back with a new show tomorrow morning. Thanks for listening.

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