WSJ What’s News - Why Statues Taken Down in 2020 Are Coming Back

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

P.M. Edition for June 4. During the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests, cities across the U.S. removed monuments honoring Confederate generals, Founding Fathers and Christopher Columbus. Now, some peopl...e are fighting to restore them. Journal national affairs reporter Cameron McWhirter discusses why the statue wars have returned–and what’s different this time. Plus, some Russian elites are turning against the war with Ukraine. WSJ chief foreign affairs correspondent Yaroslav Trofimov discusses what this means for Vladimir Putin. And many investors in Blackstone’s premier private-credit fund want their money out. Danny Lewis hosts. Sign up for the WSJ's free What's News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:22 Free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming, Ontario. Termoil in private credit continues, with investors wanting more of their money back from the industry's biggest fund. Plus, some members of the Russian establishment have started calling for President Vladimir Putin to end the war with Ukraine. There's a people who have very little love for the Ukrainian government. However, they're speaking out now just because it's clear that the momentum of the war has changed. And a wave of cities across the U.S. took down contentious statues in 2020. Now, some of them are getting put back up.
Starting point is 00:01:04 It's Thursday, June 4th. I'm Danny Lewis for the Wall Street Journal, filling in for Alex Oslo. This is the PM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories that move the world today. Investors are trying to pull billions of dollars out of the biggest private credit fund in the world, Blackstone's B-Cred. The funds investors asked to redeem 10% of their shares in the second quarter. That amounts to $4.4 billion, up from the first quarter. when investors asked for 8% of their shares. Blackstone says everything's fine.
Starting point is 00:01:35 They are saying they have plenty of money that investors that want their money will get it back, just not as quickly as they want, and that the overall performance of their loans that they invest in, that those loans are doing fine. You know, in general, I think that's right. However, on the margin, what we're seeing is that more of those loans are starting to default.
Starting point is 00:01:55 That's Matt Worts, who covers credit for the WSJ's Finance Bureau. He says managers of large private credit funds, face growing financial strain from their investors. Blackstone is like the blue chip name. Like if J.B. Morgan is like the blue chip of banks, like Blackstone is the benchmark for private credit and private equity funds. So if the number of their investors that are asking for their money back is going up, if the best in the industry is facing this, then it's only a bigger risk for everybody else.
Starting point is 00:02:24 In stock markets, a rally in health care and financial stocks helped push the Dow sharply higher today. The index closed up. almost 900 points, or about 1.7%. Meanwhile, tech stocks lagged after chip and software maker broadcoms guidance on AI demand fell short of investor expectations. It dropped 12.6%, and the NASDAQ ended the day slightly lower, while the S&P rose 0.4%. We go now to Russia, which has fallen into a long stalemate on the front lines of the war in Ukraine. Significant voices in the Russian political establishment are now starting to to publicly call for an end to the conflict. But there's a big question here. Will President
Starting point is 00:03:06 Vladimir Putin listen? We're joined now by the journal's chief foreign affairs correspondent Yaroslav Trophimov. Yaro, who are some of the people in the Russian establishment now calling for an end to the war? So you hear it from people like Oleg Tsareov, who used to be a parliament member in Ukraine before fleeing to Russia, and then he was President Putin's top candidate to lead a puppet regime that Russia planned to install in Ukraine. Or you have people like Vasily Kachan, who is a top analyst and prominent think tanker in Russia, so he already peace in Russia's foremost foreign policy journal, also arguing that Russia really has no path to victory in Ukraine. There's are people who have very little love for the Ukrainian government. However, they're speaking
Starting point is 00:03:54 out now just because it's clear that the momentum of the war has changed. Ukraine has been able to stop Russia advances by and large. And at the same time, Ukraine's drones and missiles have been able to strike throughout Russia. We saw the strike on the port of St. Petersburg this week. Justice, Russia's main economic conference with lots of foreign guests was about to start. A lot of people that I talk to are watching Russia very closely are very skeptical that President Putin will actually listen. Because for this regime, war is really a Morris Vivendi. as a former Ukrainian foreign minister, Pablo Klimkin, told me it's like riding a bicycle.
Starting point is 00:04:30 If you stop, you fall. Have there been any repercussions for the people who are arguing to end the war in Ukraine? Well, not really, because they all couching this in a very patriotic language, and they all saying, you know, we supported the war. It's just, you know, we understand that now it's going to be difficult. So, you know, those are not liberals. We are not people who were protesting against the war four years ago when the war began. And that is why actually their words are in.
Starting point is 00:04:56 influential among some parts of the Russian society, because those are the people who want Russia to win in Ukraine, and they're just saying it can't right now. That was WSJ Chief Foreign Affairs correspondent Yaroslav Trofimov. And elsewhere in the world, Israel and Lebanon renewed their ceasefire just yesterday. It's already under strain. Today, Israel and Hezbollah exchanged fire, and Israel says it will continue its offensive in Lebanon's south. In a speech today, Hezbollah's leader said the group would only stop its attacks after a full
Starting point is 00:05:25 withdrawal of Israeli forces. The deal calls for the disarmament of Hezbollah and for the Lebanese military to take control across the country. But a Lebanese military official said the army hasn't gotten any orders yet to reassert itself in the south of the country. It remains unclear how the ceasefire will be implemented. Coming up, we've got the latest news from Washington. Republican division over President Trump's quote anti-weaponization fund spills onto the Senate floor, while Trump names his next nominee to lead the Justice Department. That's after the break. The Senate is voting today on a $70 billion bill funding immigration enforcement that is a priority for President Trump and Republicans.
Starting point is 00:06:13 But the measure has been delayed by an internal GOP fight over legislation that would officially kill President Trump's $1.8 billion anti-weaponization fund. The fund's opponents dragged action on the Senate floor to a halt. for hours today. Republican Senator Tom Tillis of North Carolina, who is retiring, pushed for amendments blocking the fund. This administration has said they're not moving forward with it. This is an opportunity for us to put it to bed. But while many Senate Republicans oppose the fund, few appeared willing to insist on language ending it in exchange for supporting the immigration bill. While the Trump administration has retreated from the fund, the Justice Department is considering other means to pay allies of the president who claim they were politically targeted by the
Starting point is 00:06:55 federal government. And the $1.8 billion fund could continue to be a headache for acting Attorney General Todd Blanche, after President Trump said he'll nominate Blanche to run the Justice Department. Blanche has been serving in the role on a temporary basis since Pam Bondi was fired in April. He's faced backlash from both Democrats and Republicans in the Senate over the fund, the same lawmakers whose votes he'll need to be confirmed as Attorney General. Talking to reporters today in Ohio, Blanche said he has good relationships with Senate lawmakers. So I'm looking forward to working with the senators and getting them the information
Starting point is 00:07:30 they need through the confirmation process. Six years ago, it was the depths of the COVID pandemic. And nationwide, people were protesting police violence and racism following George Floyd's murder in Minneapolis in 2020. And cities across the U.S. were responding by removing statues and monuments commemorating Confederate generals, founding fathers, and European explorers. Now, the statue wars are back. Traditionalists are suing and lobbying local governments to return the memorials to public spaces. WSJ National Affairs reporter Cameron McWhorter has been covering this push. He joins us now.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Cameron, my first thought here was, where have these statues been for the last six years? But what happened to them after they were removed from public view? Some were destroyed. There's one at the bottom of Baltimore's Inner Harbor, a statue of Columbus. But a lot of the statues were put into storage. For example, a very large statue of Christopher Columbus that was removed from the city hall of Columbus, Ohio. It is in a city warehouse on its back with yellow caution tape around it. So a lot of them have just been sitting around out of public view.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And traditionalists are wanting to get these statues back up. And in some cases, they're starting to win. What are some of the other monuments that people are pushing to restore? So there was a statue of a Texas ranger that had stood at a air. airport in Dallas for a long time. And it was believed to be modeled after a particular person, who was a very prominent Texas Ranger in the 50s and 60s. And that person was sent to schools that were being desegregated. And it is alleged that he took the side of the segregationists. Now, that is in dispute, but that is why the statue was taken away.
Starting point is 00:09:24 But wasn't it supposed to be a monument to the Texas Rangers in general? Yes. The statue is entitled, one riot, one ranger. it refers to this particular event from a long, long time ago in which apparently one Texas Ranger stopped a riot by himself. That is sort of what it's supposed to be. Others argue that it's based on this particular person and that it brings up a lot of ugly history in Texas. So there were calls for that statute to be removed, and it was, and it sat in storage for years. It has just reappeared at the Texas Ranger baseball team stadium, causing a furor with people calling for that statute to be removed and it's divisive and other people saying it never
Starting point is 00:10:05 should have been taken away in the first place. There was a highway marker that's the tribute to Robert Lee, the Confederate General, and that monument was removed and it's now back. Everybody looks at a statue and they're going to see something different about what that thing represents to them. And we saw that in 2020 and now we're seeing it again. You know, these statues were quickly removed by a lot of communities who didn't want crisis or dissension or vandalism. And they shuttled them off to warehouses, et cetera. And now people want them back because they were angry that they were removed. What's been the response from the people who pushed to remove these monuments in the first place? Strangely muted for now. We don't have the crowds and the protesters that we had in 2020.
Starting point is 00:10:53 So it's moved to a legal and political battle. And that is a very, a very, different fight, and so far the traditionalists have the upper hand. And this is led in large part by the Trump White House. They have brought back statues, for example, the statue that was thrown into Baltimore Inner Harbor of Columbus, a replica of that is now in front of a federal building in Washington, D.C. on display. There is a statue of a founding father who was a slave owner that was taken down in Wilmington, Delaware, is now up in Washington, thanks to the White House. WSJ National Affairs reporter, Cameron McWhorter.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Thanks for joining us. Yeah, thanks for having me. And that's what's news for this Thursday afternoon. Today's show was produced by Anthony Bansy with supervising producer Tali Arbell. I'm Danny Lewis for the Wall Street Journal. We'll be back with a new show tomorrow morning. Thanks for listening.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Thank you.

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