WSJ What’s News - Why Venezuela Bonds Are Rallying After Maduro’s Ouster

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

P.M. Edition for Jan. 6. Many investors sold off their Venezuelan bonds years ago. WSJ’s Matt Wirz says a long-awaited payout could be in store for those who held on to the distressed assets. Plus, ...President Trump wants U.S. oil companies to invest in Venezuela. But as Journal reporter Collin Eaton discusses, there’s a lot at risk for the industry. And the president’s renewed push for a U.S. takeover of Greenland is alarming some members of Congress and European allies. Alex Ossola hosts. Sign up for the WSJ's free What's News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Some European allies and Republican lawmakers are pushing back on President Trump's idea of taking over Greenland. Plus, after a long time out McCold, investors in distressed Venezuelan bonds may finally be a step closer to a payday. One of the big things that's going to have to happen is a forensic experiment where there'll be a look at how much debt is out there, who is it owed to, and then who gets what. But, you know, newsflash, no one's going to get the full amount that they're going to. put in. And why removing Maduro may not be enough to attract the U.S. oil industry to Venezuela. It's Tuesday, January 6th. I'm Alex Osala for the Wall Street Journal. This is the PM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories that move the world today. After the military raid on Venezuela, President Trump has once again raised the idea of the U.S.
Starting point is 00:00:54 taking over Greenland, and that's causing alarm for some U.S. lawmakers and allies. The president said on Sunday that U.S. national security required American control of the territory. And yesterday on CNN, senior White House aide Stephen Miller was asked about whether the U.S. would take military action against Greenland. The United States should have Greenland as part of the United States. There's no need to even think or talk about this in the context that you're asking of a military operation. Nobody's going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Greenland's a Danish territory, and Denmark says U.S. military intervention there would mean the end of NATO. And today, major European allies in NATO called on the U.S. to choose cooperation and not coercion. On Capitol Hill, meanwhile, some Republicans who have supported the Venezuela mission said that talk of taking over Greenland was inappropriate. Others said they weren't sure if Trump was serious but didn't think an annexation of Greenland would happen. About a month before the U.S. operation that captured Nicholas Maduro, President Trump hinted to a few American oil executives that something was coming. He told them to get ready. It's an indication of how central oil is to his decision to go into Venezuela, as well as his close ties to the industry. I'm joined now by Colin Eaton, who covers American oil companies for the journal.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Colin, yesterday, White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said that Trump was looking forward to working with American oil companies on new investments and opportunities in Venezuela. Why is the Trump administration pushing this? What is its goal? Well, the oil and gas industry in Venezuela has become central to its economy, and it's been in a dilapidated state over the past two decades. The reason that Trump wants to bring it back, he's talked about lowering oil prices here in the states, but there's also the insular effects of the improvement in Venezuela's economy can sort of stem the flow. of migrants from Venezuela to the U.S., that's been a priority for the Trump administration. Clearly, Venezuela has a ton of oil. The joint venture assets that Chevron is a part of in Venezuela have a lot of oil underneath them, which is a key reason why Chevron has stayed in the country. Yesterday, investors seemed excited by the potential for other companies to
Starting point is 00:03:24 join Chevron and operate in Venezuela. But these companies haven't announced any plans to do so. You write that people familiar with the matter say Chevron has no plans to increase spending in Venezuela, that ConocoPhillips says it's premature to speculate on new investment, and Exxon didn't respond to requests for comment. So equity investors did interpret this as a opportunity for companies to have a new oil frontier. The issue is there are a lot of details that need to be hammered out. The constitution of Venezuela does not allow for for any foreign entities to have a majority stake in a project, like the ones that Chevron runs, and oil companies want to see more long-term stability. Companies have operated in Venezuela
Starting point is 00:04:15 have been burned before at assets nationalized in 2007 under Hugo Chavez. They've been injured and aren't rushing to get back in. My understanding is that for these companies to go back into Venezuela or go into it. Removing Maduro was necessary, but not necessarily sufficient. The Trump administration knows it's the high stakes gambit here. And so they're going to do what they can to persuade companies to put American dollars to work in the country. How that goes is going to be in the hands of the oil industry from this point. That was WSJ reporter, Colin Eaton. Thank you, Colin. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Coming up, another record-setting day for U.S. markets and why investors holding Venezuelan bonds could soon score a payday. That's after the break. It's not just oil companies. Another group of people that stands to benefit from Maduro's ouster are bond investors who spent years betting on a Venezuelan comeback. Though many investors sold. off their Venezuelan bonds after the first Trump administration sanctioned the country, some long-time investors have held on for years, hoping for a payday. I'm joined now by Matt
Starting point is 00:05:37 Wirtz, who covers credit for the journal. Matt, walk us through how the prices on Venezuelan bonds have changed in the day since the operation to remove Maduro. Well, in short, they're up. They're up a lot, roughly 25 to 35 percent in some cases. Venezuela used to be one of the biggest issuers of debt in the emerging markets. All the big banks on Wall Street used to do deals for Venezuela and for Venezuela's state-owned oil company, which goes by the acronym Pedevesa. So all these bonds don't trade anywhere near their full-face value because they're in default. So they were trading anywhere between like 20, 25, 26 cents on the dollar and, you know, some of them on the high end in the high 20s. And then after the operation to remove Maduro,
Starting point is 00:06:28 they trade it up, but then they stopped in like the high 30s, mid-40s. And that's based on the expectation that whatever administration ends up taking power will eventually start negotiating again with bondholders. What will it take for those negotiations to start? So for that to happen, you need to have a government that's relatively stable. Nobody that I talk to, expects that to happen anytime soon. Maybe this year, but in the later half of the year. And then once that starts, it can be a very long, messy process, even in a relatively straightforward restructuring, which this is not, it can take several years. Just because the bond prices have moved up, that's based on an expectation that now we might have finally someone who's willing to
Starting point is 00:07:13 play ball and try to restructure. There'll be a look at how much debt is out there, who is it owed, to, and then who gets what? But, you know, newsflash, no one's going to get the full amount that they put in. So let's say some of these big bondholders did decide to cash in these bonds now. What kind of payday could they actually see? I mean, some of them have. So some of these funds, they paid close to 100 cents on the dollar, but that was many years ago. So they've written that off. And at this point, anything they make is a gain. So some of them are starting to sell. However, if they were to try to liquidate their position all at once, it would tank the value of the bonds again. So it's not like they can cash out right now, but they can take some of their risk off the
Starting point is 00:07:54 table. And that's what we're seeing. There's been a lot of trading over the last couple of days. That was WSJ reporter, Matt Words. Thank you, Matt. All right. Thanks, Alex. In markets, the Dow and S&P hit new records, with the Dow rising 1% to close above 49,000. The NASDAQ ended up 0.7%. shares in insurer AIG fell 7.5% today on news of its CEO stepping down, while Ford shares gained 2.5% after it posted stronger U.S. sales in the fourth quarter. In commodities, the rally continued in copper and silver, which also hit new records.
Starting point is 00:08:36 In Congress, Republican Representative Doug Lamalfa, who represented a district in Northern California for 13 years, has died. His death shrinks Republicans' house majority. to 218 seats versus Democrats 213. And unrest in Iran extended into a second week with a heavy police response today to a protest in the Tehran Grand Bazaar, the city's central market. Protests began over difficult economic conditions
Starting point is 00:09:01 but have taken a political turn with students and others chanting slogans against the regime. The group human rights activists in Iran say more than a thousand people have been arrested and at least 29 killed. And President Trump late last week said the U.S. would come to the aid of Iranian protesters if authorities started shooting them. And that's what's news for this Tuesday afternoon.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Today's show is produced by Pierre Bienname, with supervising producer Tali Arbell. I'm Alex Oscella for the Wall Street Journal. We'll be back with a new show tomorrow morning. Thanks for listening. Thank you.

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