WSJ What’s News - Will Walmart Gobble Up Other Retailers’ Holiday Sales?

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

P.M. Edition for Nov. 20. Heard on the Street columnist Jinjoo Lee explains how Walmart is outpacing competitors. And WSJ reporter Heather Somerville discusses the Pentagon’s move to buy thousands o...f surveillance drones from a little known Utah manufacturer. Plus, the U.S. House of Representatives ethics committee declines to release its report on President-elect Donald Trump’s Attorney General nominee Matt Gaetz. Tracie Hunte hosts. Sign up for the WSJ's free What's News newsletter.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How do airplanes fly? What's in this box? What does this thing do? Kids are curious about everything, including guns. Learn how to store your gun securely and make your home safer at nfamilyfire.org. Brought to you by N Family Fire, Brady and the Ad Council. It's the tale of two retail giants, target earnings disappoint, a day after Walmart posts standout results. Walmart has been so good at drawing customers in that target might be something like a collateral damage to Walmart's success. And a little-known Utah drone company wins a huge Pentagon contract.
Starting point is 00:00:38 What would this mean for other U.S. drone manufacturers? Plus, more Americans are struggling to pay their car loans. So why isn't Wall Street worried? It's Wednesday, November 20th. I'm Tracy Hunt for the Wall Street Journal. This is a PM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories that move the world today. We'll begin with developments in Ukraine. For the first time, Ukrainian forces today fired British-made storm-shadow missiles into Russian territory. It's the second time this week that Kyiv has hit targets inside Russia with newly authorized Western missiles.
Starting point is 00:01:18 The Biden administration earlier this week gave authorization for Ukraine to use the U.S.-made Army Tactical Missile System or ATTACMs. Kyiv for months has been seeking authorization to use long-range missiles to strike Russia, but President Biden, wary of escalating the conflict, withheld permission. But the arrival of some 10,000 North Korean troops in Kursk has shifted the calculus. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin today also said that the U.S. would provide Ukraine with anti-personnel mines, another measure the U.S. has previously resisted. Austin said the mines are safer for civilians and the ones Ukraine is currently using.
Starting point is 00:01:59 They're fabricating their own anti-personnel landmines right now. The landmines that we would look to provide them would be landmines that are not persistent. We can control when they would self-activate, self-detonate, and that makes it far more safer eventually than the things that they are creating on their own. Meanwhile, the U.S. military has selected little known Utah manufacturer, Teal Drones, to provide thousands of small surveillance drones. That's according to a regulatory filing and an army document viewed by the Wall Street Journal.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Teal was founded a decade ago by a teenage drone racer and has almost no record as a defense supplier. This purchase could give the company roughly $260 million in revenue in the coming years. WSJ reporter Heather Somerville covers technology and national security and she joins us now. So Heather, what does the military hope to do with these drones, what does the military hope to do with these drones?
Starting point is 00:03:05 What's the plan? The plan for these drones is to provide them to platoons of soldiers in the army so that they can put them in backpacks and take them out and use them for surveillance and reconnaissance. And the idea is that they want to arm as many soldiers as possible with these drones so that they're basically part of their kit that they carry out and have with them at all times. These drones are actually very similar to what Ukrainians have deployed in vast numbers
Starting point is 00:03:34 in the war with Russia. Is this a sign that the Pentagon is maybe taking a page from Ukraine? The drones that this company, Teal, makes are similar in some respects to what Ukrainians have been deploying. But what's probably more important is that Teal took lessons from Ukraine to harden their drones against electronic warfare.
Starting point is 00:03:57 And so a fair conclusion is that the US military is recognizing in its selection of Teal that the drones that it needs to be buying are drones that will perform in electronic warfare environments because electronic warfare is going to be an inevitable element of wars going forward. So is the US military turning now into a regular customer of American drone manufacturers? Well this army program that Teal Drones is now a part of is a really big deal for the U.S. drone industry because of the size of the program. The Army wants at least 11,700 drones, if not many more.
Starting point is 00:04:37 It's worth pointing out that it's really an exception to the way the U.S. military works. The Defense Department is a very, very, very small customer of US drone manufacturers. It's less than 2% of total annual drone sales in the US that go to the Pentagon. It's also worth noting that the concept for arming US soldiers with these type of backpackable drones dates back to 2009. It's kind of a war on terror idea that the army thought we need to get on this. And it was a long process. And here we are 15 years later with a final result. That's way too long. That is very, very, very long. And that's not going to
Starting point is 00:05:20 work to keep these drone companies alive and to arm the US military with the technology it needs going forward. That was our reporter Heather Somerville. Thank you so much, Heather. Thanks Tracy. The bipartisan House panel probing sexual misconduct allegations against former Representative Matt Gaetz declined today to release its report on President-elect Donald Trump's pick for attorney general.
Starting point is 00:05:48 This sets the stage for an effort by Democrats to force a vote on the matter. The report was expected to be damaging to the 42-year-old Gaetz. Coming up, Target's holiday season starts with a lump of coal in its stocking. That's after the break. Target shares plunged after the retailer today posted disappointing quarterly results and lowered its profit and sales goals for the year. But it's a different story at Walmart, which yesterday reported comparable U.S. sales that rose 5.3 percent in the three-month period ended October 25th compared with a year earlier.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Joining us now is Heard on the Street columnist, Jinju Lee. Jinju, both these retailers serve similar consumers, people looking for a good deal. Why are their earnings reports telling such different stories? LESLIE KENDRICK-KLEIN Walmart has a natural advantage here because the mix of things they sell is more heavily weighted towards necessities like groceries, whereas Target has a higher mix of sales in discretionary categories like toys, apparel, home products. And these days, consumers are really getting very choosy about where they spend
Starting point is 00:07:08 money on and they tend to be focusing on necessities. What's interesting is that Walmart might also be taking away market share from dollar stores. Dollar stores are sort of places that lower income consumers go to for a quick in andand-out experience because the stores are much smaller, but Walmart seems to be winning that market share as well. So what's gone wrong with Target? Based on what some analysts have said, one of the strategic missteps could have been
Starting point is 00:07:40 locking up too many of their items to prevent theft. And then others have also pointed to perhaps not enough newness or excitement in some of their core categories like clothing and home products. Also the larger thing might be that Walmart has been so good at drawing customers in that Target might be something like a collateral damage to Walmart's success. If we were in an environment where consumers were feeling great, then all retailers would be winning. But because consumers are so selective about where they spend these days, it's inevitable
Starting point is 00:08:15 that only a few retailers will be winning. Ginger Lee is a columnist for the Wall Street Journal's Heard on the Street. Thank you so much, Ginger. Thank you. US, Ginger. Thank you. U.S. markets were mixed. The Dow closed 0.3% higher while the S&P 500 was flat. The Nasdaq composite slipped 0.1%. NVIDIA's sales surged in its latest quarter, and profits nearly doubled,
Starting point is 00:08:40 a sign of the strength of an artificial intelligence boom that has made the company the world's most valuable. Sales were $35.1 billion, the company said today, up by 17% from a year prior and ahead of forecast in a FAXAT survey of analysts. Profit reached $19.3 billion, also ahead of Wall Street forecast. Archegos Capital Management founder Bill Huang, today was sentenced to 18 years in prison. A New York federal jury this summer found Huang guilty of 10 counts, including securities fraud and market manipulation. Huang has denied wrongdoing and his attorney has indicated that Wang intends to appeal. More Americans are falling behind on their car payments.
Starting point is 00:09:34 But Wall Street isn't worried. Investors are snapping up bonds tied to car loans, betting that a strong U.S. economy will keep rising delinquency rates in check. According to data from JPMorgan Chase, sales of bonds backed by the riskiest auto loans to subprime borrowers hit nearly $40 billion this year through October, up 17% from all of 2023. And delinquencies on auto loans have been creeping up since the economy began reopening after the pandemic, hitting 3.8% in June. According to data from the Federal Reserve, which measures payments that are at least
Starting point is 00:10:12 30 days past due, that was the highest level since 2010. Joining us now is reporter Vicki Guang. So Vicki, can you just tell us how these bonds work? These bonds are called asset-backed securities. Basically these are car loans. It can also be credit card debt or mortgages. These loans are put together and then they are sliced and diced into different trenches or levels.
Starting point is 00:10:41 And the higher levels of these asset-backed securities can get priority or be the first in line to receive payments. The lower level debt of asset-backed securities debt tend to get lower ratings, but because the higher risk embedded, investors in those debt tend to get higher yields. So why aren't they worried about the risk of a collapse? Wall Street investors are not really worried about a collapse here and that is because they believe that the economy is still very strong and the US consumers are really the engine driving the growth of the US economy. The Wall Street analysts believe that the consumers
Starting point is 00:11:25 with lower credit scores, earning lower income, it's true that they are having difficulties making car payments and really struggling. The other side of it is that consumers with higher income and higher credit scores, while they are maybe starting to have some difficulties in making car payments. They still have other assets such as stocks and bonds.
Starting point is 00:11:50 They own homes. So the Wall Street Annals are not as worried about these consumers who tend to make up a large percentage of the consumers we're talking about. Vicky Wang is a reporter for the Wall Street Journal. Thank you so much, Vicki. Thank you for having me. And that's What's News for this Wednesday afternoon. Today's show was produced by Anthony Fancy,
Starting point is 00:12:11 with supervising producer, Michael Kosmitis. And in case you missed it, we tried something new today. Our own Chip Cutter got ahold of some fellow WSJ reporters to run through the big themes that have stood out this earnings season. You can find What's News and earnings, insights into banks, EVs, retail, and AI, right before this episode in the What's News feed. Take a listen and let us know what you think.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I'm Tracy Hunt for the Wall Street Journal. We'll be back with a new show tomorrow morning. Thanks for listening.

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