WSJ Your Money Briefing - Banks Are Calling Back Some High-Yielding CDs as Rates Fall

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

Some savers who invested in CDs because they offered high yields are seeing those returns decline as the Federal Reserve lowers interest rates. Wall Street Journal personal finance reporter Imani Mois...e joins host J.R. Whalen to discuss what you should know about callable CDs.  Sign up for the WSJ's free Markets A.M. newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Exchanges. The Goldman Sachs podcast featuring exchanges on the forces driving the markets and the economy. Exchanges between the leading minds at Goldman Sachs. New episodes every week. Listen now. Here's your money briefing for Friday, October 4th. I'm JR Whalen for The Wall Street Journal. As the Federal Reserve raised interest rates, high-yielding certificates of deposit, or CDs, became a hit with investors, some offering more than 5 percent. But as rates trend downward, banks are calling some of those CDs. And for many investors, those attractive rates are going away. When people purchase CDs, they're locking in a rate for a term. That could be one year.
Starting point is 00:00:51 That could be five years. But if rates fall, that means that banks are stuck paying you that higher rate when they could just refinance it and get that money for cheaper. Wall Street Journal personal finance reporter Amani Moise will join us to discuss what you should know about callable CDs. After the break. How do stop losses work on Kraken?
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Starting point is 00:02:00 The only CDs where you have to worry about interest rates falling are callable CDs. And what will happen as market rates come down is the bank has the option to call your CD, which means that they'll repay you early with all of the interest that you've accrued to date, but you're missing out on that high yield that you thought you'd locked in. Most CDs are not callable, but all callable CDs are brokered CDs. And what that means is a CD that you get not directly from your bank, but through your brokerage. Why would somebody take out a brokered CDs. And what that means is a CD that you get not directly from your bank, but through your brokerage.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Why would somebody take out a brokered CD? Because banks offered their best rates through brokerages. By going through brokerages, they did not have to change the rates that they were advertising to their own customers directly, but they could still attract more deposits as needed. How does the rate on callable CDs differ from regular CDs? On average, a non-callable CD will be about 40 basis points lower than a callable CD,
Starting point is 00:02:49 and that's because the bank is compensating you for taking that risk that they might call it back if rates fall. Why are banks calling the CDs now? It'll save them money in the long run. So when people purchase CDs, they're locking in a rate for a term. That could be one year, that could be five years. But if rates fall, that means that banks are stuck paying you that higher rate when they could just refinance it and get that money for cheaper.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Is this happening to all callable CDs at once? No, it's at every bank's discretion. They may call some CDs and not others. They may be waiting for the market to fall a little bit more. But really the only way to know is to keep track of your brokerage account. If somebody purchases a five-year callable CD, can the bank call that before the maturity date? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:35 That's not a binding contract. No. What you're buying, you're buying that rate, but you're also giving the bank the option or the right to take it back. How do you know that right exists? It's usually listed upfront. For example, I was looking at one of the brokerages Fidelity's platform and it has the list of all the CDs.
Starting point is 00:03:55 It'll show you the yield, it'll show you the term. And then there's a column that says callable, not callable or call protected, yes or no. If it says yes, that means it's a non-callable CD CD and you're locked in you're truly locked in for that entire term but if there's no call protection that means you're running this risk. If a bank calls the CD before it matures where does the invested money go? That depends on the brokerages and the default settings that you have. Most of the advisors that I spoke to suggested that you, one, check your default settings, and two, if possible, see if you could make sure that the proceeds
Starting point is 00:04:29 are deposited in something like a money market account which can still offer some yield. If someone is just now listening to us and realizing, hey, I've got a callable CD, what a financial analyst suggests that they do? The first thing is to go back and make sure that you fully understand the terms of your CD. So if it's callable, that means that there will be a call protection period. That's usually about six months to a year.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And once that period ends, that means the bank has the right to call your CD. Now, there's also call dates. Some CDs are continuously callable after the call protection period, meaning that they can be called back on any day. And some can only be called on certain days, maybe one day a quarter or something like
Starting point is 00:05:06 that. So make sure that you understand the terms and be able to keep an eye out for those key dates so you know when you need to reevaluate your options. So with this risk involved, why would somebody invest in a callable CD? To get those higher yields. As a matter of fact, some investors may be so excited when they saw a year ago these 5% cash returns that they didn't check that call protection column or wherever those terms may have been listed. But that doesn't mean that callable CDs are always a bad idea. Some of
Starting point is 00:05:34 the advisors that I spoke to said they can be part of a good investment strategy as long as you head your bets. And that means buying some non-callable CDs along with your callable ones. That's WSJ reporter Amani Moise. And that's it for your money briefing. Tomorrow we'll have our weekly markets wrap up, What's News in Markets. And then we'll be back on Sunday for the fourth and final episode of our series, Your Money, Your Vote, where we'll dig deeper into the presidential candidates' plans to make health care more affordable. This episode was produced by Trina Menino and Zoe Kolkin. I'm your host, JR Whelan. Jessica Fenton and Michael Laval wrote our theme music.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Our supervising producer is Melanie Roy. Aisha Al-Muslim was our development producer. Scott Salloway and Chris Sinzley are our deputy editors. And Falana Patterson is The Wall Street Journal's head of news audio. Thanks for listening.

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