WSJ Your Money Briefing - The Hardball Tactic Landlords Use to Tank Your Credit Score
Episode Date: February 21, 2025Landlords say that tackling rental disputes by targeting credit scores is more effective than lengthy legal battles. But consumer advocates say it gives landlords unchecked power. Wall Street Journal ...reporter Caitlin Ostroff joins host Ariana Aspuru to discuss what renters need to know. Sign up for the WSJ's free Markets A.M. newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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                                         Here's your money briefing for Friday, February 21st.
                                         
                                         I'm Mariana Aspuru for The Wall Street Journal.
                                         
                                         Landlords are using a harsh tactic in rent disputes, damaging tenants' credit scores.
                                         
                                         And we talked to some people whose credit score went down one or two hundred points
                                         
                                         as a result of this.
                                         
    
                                         And so it can be an instance where, you know, maybe the alleged debt is small, or it can
                                         
                                         be that the credit ratings agencies say, just because you have this debt,
                                         
                                         we think that it is significant
                                         
                                         and it's going to cause your credit score to follow up.
                                         
                                         We'll talk with Wall Street Journal reporter,
                                         
                                         Caitlin Ostroff, about how tenants are fighting back.
                                         
                                         That's after the break.
                                         
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                                         More than half of all small claims disputes are rent cases.
                                         
                                         But unlike in court, landlords and debt collectors can act as both judge and jury by reporting rent disputes directly to credit bureaus.
                                         
                                         Wall Street Journal reporter Caitlin Ostroff joins me.
                                         
    
                                         Caitlin, why are landlords taking this approach?
                                         
                                         So this is in part because there was a change in how credit agencies use public records in 2017.
                                         
                                         It's harder to get things like evictions, other sort of public judgments onto credit
                                         
                                         reports now as a way to level the playing field more in favor of tenants.
                                         
                                         And so now landlords who are worried that whoever they're renting to might not make
                                         
                                         good on the lease.
                                         
                                         It's a new way where they can sort of park something more permanently to report alleged
                                         
                                         debts owed essentially onto the credit agencies
                                         
    
                                         to debt collectors.
                                         
                                         But we're also just seeing this because it's become easier for some landlords to decide
                                         
                                         I'm going to bypass the small claims court and I'm just going to send it onto the debt
                                         
                                         collector and let it be their problem and let them try and recoup the funds.
                                         
                                         So they're kind of taking an extra step now that they didn't used to.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         What kind of power does this give landlords?
                                         
                                         So this gives landlords the power to basically decide, I say you owe me X amount of money.
                                         
    
                                         Sometimes that's the rent from the lease agreement if a month or two isn't paid.
                                         
                                         But it can also be for incidental charges that landlords claim are owed to them.
                                         
                                         We've seen cases where if a stove or some other part of the apartment needs to be replaced,
                                         
                                         sometimes that will end up on the list of alleged money owed.
                                         
                                         So if you are a renter and your landlord is claiming that you owe X money, the first step
                                         
                                         that they take in this process is they call a debt collector.
                                         
                                         And they say, Caitlin Ostrov owes me X amount of money because of this.
                                         
                                         And so the debt collector says, okay, and they will call me or
                                         
    
                                         send emails and say, this debt is alleged, you have to pay this.
                                         
                                         And I might dispute that to them.
                                         
                                         And they'll go back to the landlord, the landlord often will say, no,
                                         
                                         this debt is correct, And that will be that.
                                         
                                         What the debt collector will then in turn do
                                         
                                         is if they don't think that they can get this money from me
                                         
                                         just by calling me, is they will forward it
                                         
                                         on to one of the credit ratings agencies.
                                         
    
                                         And they will say, Caitlin has not paid this.
                                         
                                         She is not credit worthy.
                                         
                                         Please add this to her credit report.
                                         
                                         I can go and contest that with the credit agencies as well after it's published on my credit report,
                                         
                                         but at each step in this way, it is difficult, according to consumer lawyers we've spoken to,
                                         
                                         to get this information removed from your account, even with the proof that you think clears you of
                                         
                                         the alleged debts.
                                         
                                         So it's difficult to have sort of checks and balances, for lack of a better word here.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         The landlord in these cases does have quite a lot of power
                                         
                                         in setting this whole thing in motion.
                                         
                                         And it can be very hard to undo, which
                                         
                                         is why a lot of these cases are brought to federal court.
                                         
                                         And how effective is that?
                                         
                                         Almost all of these cases ended in settlements.
                                         
                                         On the one hand, you can argue that is effective
                                         
    
                                         because most of the people who settled couldn't
                                         
                                         speak to us about what had occurred.
                                         
                                         But by and large, attorneys we spoke to said that when a settlement happens, it does get
                                         
                                         removed from the credit report.
                                         
                                         In some ways, that can be a tool, but it's also very frustrating and it's a longer process
                                         
                                         than just being able to send a letter to a credit agency and say,
                                         
                                         hey, I saw that you added this. Here are photos from before I moved in showing that this was in this condition. Here is a copy of the lease saying that I
                                         
                                         followed the correct procedures. Can you please remove that and not having that
                                         
    
                                         work?
                                         
                                         And how much weight does this damage carry on your credit score?
                                         
                                         I mean, it can carry a lot of damage, but that's the other thing is the secret sauce
                                         
                                         that makes credit scores what they are isn't a very straightforward or transparent system.
                                         
                                         The amount in which this impacts your credit score can range widely.
                                         
                                         And we talked to some people whose credit score went down one or 200 points as a result
                                         
                                         of this.
                                         
                                         And so it can be an instance where, you know, maybe the alleged debt is
                                         
    
                                         small, and so the impact is much smaller. Or it can be that the credit ratings agencies
                                         
                                         say, just because you have this debt, we think that it is significant and it's going to
                                         
                                         cause your credit score to fall off.
                                         
                                         But once renters see this hit on their credit score, can they dispute it before it starts
                                         
                                         affecting their everyday lives, their other apartments?
                                         
                                         You can dispute it at the debt collector and you can also dispute it to the credit agencies.
                                         
                                         But often what we've heard from lawyers is that even if people have documentation that
                                         
                                         they furnish to debt collectors, credit agencies, that often isn't enough to get it taken off.
                                         
    
                                         And a lot of the people we've spoken to who have sued not just for monetary damages for like what their lower
                                         
                                         credit score has financially impacted them over, it's often just to even get it removed
                                         
                                         because often just disputing state credit bureaus doesn't actually change anything.
                                         
                                         Lylea Kaye If someone's currently dealing with a rent dispute and they want to avoid this
                                         
                                         negative hit to their credit score, what are some steps that they can take?
                                         
                                         Emily O'Neill First and foremost, you should dispute.
                                         
                                         That's what every consumer lawyer we've spoken to
                                         
                                         have told us is having the documentation that you say
                                         
    
                                         that's not right helps if you need to go the legal route.
                                         
                                         And then also reaching out to either a lawyer
                                         
                                         or a consumer advocate, help organization reach out
                                         
                                         to get advice from someone.
                                         
                                         Are there things that you can proactively do
                                         
                                         before you find yourself in a dispute
                                         
                                         over your rental payments?
                                         
                                         Just in case this happens, you have everything you need
                                         
    
                                         to sort of back your case.
                                         
                                         It's just a matter of lots of documentation.
                                         
                                         So if you're negotiating a lease or terms of a lease,
                                         
                                         do that in writing, or at least get copies of things
                                         
                                         that you discussed over the phone in writing.
                                         
                                         If you are moving into an apartment,
                                         
                                         take photos on the first day,
                                         
                                         document the state of everything, do the same when you're moving out, and just
                                         
    
                                         try and keep good records of when you've communicated about certain issues, be specific. That way
                                         
                                         if a dispute occurs, you have evidence to back up whatever your side is.
                                         
                                         That's Wall Street Journal reporter Caitlin Ostroff.
                                         
                                         And that's it for your money briefing.
                                         
                                         Tomorrow we'll have our weekly markets wrap up.
                                         
                                         What's news in markets.
                                         
                                         This episode was hosted and produced by me, Arianna Aspuru.
                                         
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