WTF with Marc Maron Podcast - Episode 1124 - Samantha Bee

Episode Date: May 25, 2020

Samantha Bee says there was a point in her teenage years when she was clearly headed toward a life of crime. Thankfully, that was also the point when she realized she was being an a-hole and things needed to change. Sam tells Marc how she shook off the grifter lifestyle and started doing comedy. She also details how The Daily Show cake got baked every day and how the timing of Jon Stewart’s departure coincided with Sam getting her own opportunity to host Full Frontal on TBS. This episode is sponsored by Reunions by Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Patreon, Scotts Turf Builder Thick’R Lawn, and HBO Max. Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Obviously, many of you know me. Today's guest is Samantha B., which we taped before the tragic passing of my girlfriend, Lynn Shelton. And it's been a difficult week. I don't know about this grieving thing. I don't know how one does it. I mean, thank God my brother's here. You know, my brother, family, I don't know. You know, the day after Lynn passed, you know, my brother flew out. You know, he happened to be in Denver and he flew out. And he's been here all week, kind of moving through this process with me. As some of you know, as I told you before uh you know i didn't know lynn's family that well but i've gotten to know many of them and just as i said on thursday the amazing support from all the people in my community like all of them the comics unbelievable and and you people who listen to this show, thousands and thousands of emails.

It really helps because I'm not great at staying in a feeling or accessing. I think if I was left alone, I would just bury it all and stuff it deep inside me and cry at inappropriate things as opposed to what I should be grieving about, which is a horrendous loss. Yeah, everybody, there's so much food is coming in. I swear, man, we got, me and my brother are the only ones here, and the other day we got like the full shiva situation. We got the full shiva package. I mean, somebody sent us bagels, lox, cream cheese, and smoked fish platter with hot coffee for like 20 people. And both Craig and I have a slight compulsive eating situation. So part of us felt like we

really got to just strap in and do this. But that just an example a lot of stuff is just coming and i and i didn't realize how paralyzed i would be and unable to cook or anything else so the food has been great even the even the food that's bad for me i ate four cookies before i came in here i spent a week going through lynn shelton's stuff at my house, her clothing, her vitamins, her lady stuff, jewelry, everything, papers. I was, I could not, it was like, it was, I couldn't, I didn't even know how much stuff was here. And I could only do it in sort of, you know, fits and starts, waves, when I kind of emotionally was capable. I would just get in there and throw away stuff that was just clearly garbage and then process things that meant something to me

and then kind of move stuff that I think is going to be for her family and friends. So that took a few days to do that, to kind of decide the one or two items that I would keep to remember her by. There were just moments where I'm like, what am I going to do now? I mean, what happens now? But I don't think I'm going to get bitter and angry. I might yell at the sky a bit. But I'm hoping in honor of Lynn and what she did for me that I can somehow work on keeping my heart open.

It was not working this last week because so much grief was coming up. People would call me and I couldn't get through a five-minute conversation without crying, which was fine. It's good to cry. But I feel like I needed a really big cry. Like the other day, I thought I actually was getting the virus because my chest was so tight. And then I cried a little bit and it was like, oh, okay, that's what needs to happen. I don't know if it's going to happen a bit at a time or like eventually I'll just be able to unload it. There's only a few people I can do that with.

But maybe it'll happen. I'm trying to breathe. I'm trying to breathe. I'm trying to breathe. I'm trying to sit with the feelings. The amazing thing that we did, that Michaela Watkins did, was set up a sort of Zoom shiva, a Zoom morning group. She just put out feelers and got people to pull in people that knew lynn that worked with lynn so every night for seven days i think we did it

six or seven maybe six six nights at 6 30 whoever wanted to be there was there anywhere from you know 35 to 60 people who love lynn who knew lynn family friends co-workers actors musicians everybody who knew her and just to hang out filmmakers to hang out and talk about lynn and i think it really worked in a way to get us through that shock, to get us through that initial period of complete horror and shock and to celebrate her a bit and to share stories and to cry with each other. It helped.

It helped me, even though I started to feel like, what was she doing with me? All these people that have known her forever, this is the sweetest, most charismatic person in the world that was full of joy and happiness and was excited and driven and had vision and was, you know, amazingly talented and brought people together. And everybody loved her. And so many people met their people through her. Just like this beautiful, collaborative mess of talent and love. And I'm just like, how do I fit in? I come from the world of rogues borderline criminals the comics the comics

she saw something in me and then made me see it so i love her love her for that but i did really start to feel insecure and feel like i don't all these people have known her for so long i've known her like five years not even but what we had was not you know what we had was was what we had and it was all in all good beautiful stuff unique to us i didn't want to tell stories i was too how many stories do i have i got a lot of love stories and i can't i don't want to share those those are mine those are mine

and really after last week I want to again thank my listeners for really I'm trying to look at the emails all of them help it all helps it helps me this is I guess the nature of what I do when I'm in relation to someone else connected. Then I can feel myself be present and feel my feelings. Now I have to learn how to do it alone. But thank you guys for really stepping up and sending me all those emails and all that love. I appreciate it.

all those emails and all that love. I appreciate it. So Samantha B is a funny, sharp woman, full frontal with Samantha B airs Wednesday nights at 1030, 930 Central on TBS. And I talked to her remotely before my life got turned upside down. So this is me talking to Samantha B. It's winter and you can get anything you need delivered with Uber Eats. Well, almost, almost anything. So no, you can't get snowballs on Uber Eats. But meatballs, mozzarella balls, and arancini balls? Yes, we deliver those. Moose? No.

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Hi, it's Terry O'Reilly, host of Under the Influence. Recently, we created an episode on cannabis marketing. With cannabis legalization, it's a brand new challenging marketing category. And I want to let you know we've produced a special bonus podcast episode where I talk to an actual cannabis producer. I wanted to know how a producer becomes licensed, how a cannabis company competes with big corporations, how a cannabis company markets its products in such a highly regulated category,

and what the term dignified consumption actually means. I think you'll find the answers interesting and surprising. Hear it now on Under the Influence with Terry O'Reilly. This bonus episode is brought to you by the Ontario Cannabis Store and ACAS Creative. So, hi, Samantha. Hi. Nice to meet you.

It's really nice to meet you. Finally. It's really nice to meet you. Finally. I loved your special. Is it okay for me to compliment you? I loved it. Yeah, I'll take it.

All right. Especially these days. Yeah, I enjoy compliments. Yeah. I loved it. I watched it as soon as it came out. I watched it right away. Like right when we were forced indoors.

Right when we were forced. It was one of the first things that I watched. Well, thank you. I'm glad you liked it. It's so weird, like day to day. I don't know. How are you with compliments? Terrible. I can't take them at all. They're horrible. I hate them. terrible i can't take them at all they're so horrible i can't i hate them i become like my body physically shrinks like i start to do what is that i don't know i mean i how are you with uh with horrible things with criticism uh also horrible but i don't expose myself to it too much like i don't i don't really actually really really disciplined about not reading stuff about myself i just don't so like you you don't immerse yourself in the uh comment sections of anything no twitter never no i turned off all of those notifications on twitter a long time ago at what point what what happened the election the election happened actually and like

that night i I started to... Because I used to... I was pretty disciplined about it. I don't Google myself or any of that shit. No, me neither. I never did that for years. But I would read stuff on Twitter. And that election night, it was so dark.

Everything was just crushing as yeah it progressed and then my twitter mentions started to go berserk like it was so it was like homicidal people were so intense i felt like a darkness i felt like like the death star kind of like the shadow of the death star over my twitter mentions and so um it took me a couple of days it took me to a dark place and then my assistant at the time actually took away my phone and she changed my patch she changed my password so she was like this will be temporary just like you can't and i just really liked the way that i was living you without it without it i didn't need it or want it anymore. And so I just don't. Oh, that's great. But you're on it though. I'm on it. I'm reading it.

But you just shut that down. But I shut that part down. So I don't take negativity well, but I just avoid it really strenuously. It's weird because it's a visceral feeling. And for me, like, I guess maybe I'm oversensitive. I don't know. But like, it just takes one of those things to fuck my day up. Fuck the whole day up. And like, you could get like, you could get 1000 glowing compliments. And it's that one person who's like, you're ugly.

And you're like, why? I can't. I can't do this. And it just erases everything else. It just erases. Like the good ones. You're like why i can't i can't do this and it just erases everything else like the good ones you're like yeah yeah oh thanks okay and then the one that's sort of like you're kind of like the ones that really like are specific and hit a button that you're insecure about then you're like oh my god oh how the fuck they know that and it just ruins it. And then I talk to people that are like, well, you got to get a callus to it. And I'm like, do you? Is that a healthy thing to do? I mean, I know these are nameless monsters that are trying to get my goat on purpose, but

even when I choose not to engage, which I do, I still have to choose it. I'll read it and I'll be like, I'm going to, no, I'm I'm not gonna is that really a good muscle to have I don't know I don't think it's I don't I don't think it's helpful I bought okay I don't have like art in my house to speak of like I'm just not yeah I'm just not built for it but I did buy this one picture recently it's like one of the only ones i ever bought and it just said not built for art i don't know i don't know anything about it i'm just like everything's just you could just like paint something red and put it on the wall and i'm like oh so you're so you're intimidated in terms of like yes you don't trust what you like because

somebody will come over and go oh my god what are you what is that what is did you paint that um but i did buy one thing recently and it is just this it's it's really really pretty and all it says is it did not ruin her and i think that it means a lot to me because i'm like yes like you don't want to build that you don't want to have that much of a callous that it actually changes the core of who you are, I think. Right. So that's like, I don't think that's a great healthy muscle. I don't either. And it's very hard for me to compartmentalize this shit.

You know, like I think detaching with a certain amount of empathy is fine. Like, hey, I'm not going to engage with that person. They're angry and it's probably not going to engage with that person. They're angry. And it's probably not anything to do with me. Or they're just a monster that likes, you know, making people upset. Yeah.

Okay. And walk away from it. But just that sort of like, no, I'm not, I, I, you know,

I can take anything. I'm, I am so ready to quit. Aren't you? I'm always ready to quit. Of course. I've been ready to quit since I started what is that man like I don't know what you're doing but I mean you've got like kids right you've

got a lot of kids I do but like for me I'm like this is what I work towards not doing anything and and and then there's the added bonus of knowing no one else is so no one's competing for anything right and we're just what are we doing yeah let's just stop all of it there's so many good hobbies out there oh there are kind of or just yeah maybe nothing you could learn yeah or nothing nothing's fine but you find i'm i just find what that once you adjust to you know the the time that's given like my i adjust to it i'm not like i'm fucking bored what am i gonna do with this hour it's like oh my god my days are full these are things just spread out yeah i'm so good at like we're doing you know we're doing the show so i'm busy from that but when i'm i know i see you outside doing things outside doing things but like when i'm we're

going we're coming into a break soon we have like a a nice break like three weeks i am so i'm so good at puttering i can just like just putter around like repot little plants that takes yeah hours i'm perfectly happy perfectly happy just like putting fingers in soil going to the yeah you're going to make something in the kitchen. I don't know. No, I know. Me too. Yeah. Like, you know, like I'm going to cut up a squash.

Yeah. And then I'm going to go obsess about the plant bed out front where I can't seem to grow anything. Oh. Well, we've recently discovered it's like a whole new world since self-isolating began. We've just, we're like very into composting we became oh yeah we weren't like i was like when i grew up my mom was a big composter and i was just like this is awful i don't i don't think you have to say that with any shame this and now yeah no and it's good but we're very like we could spend what i'm saying is we could take that whole three week period and just be composting like just be like chopping up banana peels into small pieces so put them in the

composter that's like a full activity so how many bins do you have we have two bins we have they're large the big ones yeah the big ones like the big it's like a big tumbler that just like all year round, like it insulates the compost and it just breaks it down really quickly. So we're very, it's like our new child. We have a new child. All right, so walk me through it. So, you know, like you have to rotate the bins. Like one is not as ripe as the other one.

So you have one that's sort of usable and then one that's still sort of rotting. I have so much compassion for your audience right now because they don't want to hear about this at all. But I'm still telling you. Still going to tell you. So yes, it's like a big, wide, it's a double bin. So while one bin stays kind of empty and you fill the other one and then you tumble it, and you fill the other one, and then you tumble it,

and then you fill the other one up, and while you're filling the second one up, the first one has turned to compost, is the hope. So that's ready. By the time the other one is full, the other side is ready to go in your garden and do its magic. Because I feel guilty that I don't compost. It's not even an environmental thing. It's just like I know that it sounds fun and it's nice to use everything.

Sure. It's nice. So what does it do? It looks like soil, right? Just like really rich soil. Just really rich soil. And it does work magic on the garden well we'll find out i don't i have no i mean supposedly but like when i was a new thing when i was like growing up in the 70s it just wasn't as it was not cool at all to do that and it was just like a disgusting thing that i had to like be i'm putting coffee grounds in a bin yeah but they didn't have they didn't have the fancy bins.

There was no fashion around it. It was usually something someone made, right? A wooden box thing. It just made your kitchen smell sour. And it was just like a horrible sour smell that followed you everywhere and plagued your life. And what did you have? Like hippie parents yes my mom is very into all that stuff yeah she's into all that stuff like she where'd you grow up i grew up in

toronto right in the city yep right in the city and your mom was a hippie and your dad was not how did it work they were divorced they got divorced really early when I was a baby. So it was really me. Really? Kind of partially raised by my grandmother, but also my mom who was a single mom and my dad was remarried. So I was like always going around to different, everybody's different houses. Do you have siblings?

No, I'm an only child. So they had the one kid and before you were conscious, they were split up? Pretty much. They were in high school. They were in high school. They were in high school. Oh, my God. I'm a high school pregnancy.

Like final year of high school, but like teen pregnancy for sure. So you and your mom are like the same age now? Roughly. She's only 18. She's only 19 years older than me. Yeah. She just turned 19 and I was born. Isn't it weird when you hit this age when you realize like you know when you're a kid your parents are always so much older

right and then like you cross a certain line you're like we're both on the same side of this we both have we both have gray hair yeah what's fucking happening yeah second half man totally so you spend a lot of time going from house to house yeah your grandma's was the grandma house a stable very stable yeah super very stable but she was like a single she was like a single grandma oh really she had split apart from my grandfather which it was just like single people all in my life like Like my single- Your grandpa was in your life too? He left my life because he took off with his secretary. But then he came back to my life later in life as an adult.

So he was gone for a long time, but- As an adult, oh, okay. He was back later. They kind of got back together again. So you're just going from house to house? Just kind of pinging around, yeah. Is that good? Was it a good thing? Or did you feel unstable? together again so you're just going from house to house it's kind of pinging around yeah is that good was it a good thing or did you feel unstable do you feel like it was nicer that way well I don't know it was the only thing that I knew right and uh I think it was like kind of

cumulatively healthy because everyone like everyone loved me so it wasn't like yeah and everyone was doing what they wanted to do as opposed to staying in everyone was doing what they could everyone was doing it with love so i i don't think it was like it wasn't like our family is now but it was still fine like i i felt stable and cared for i was cared for for sure and also like a lot of different environments which is nice you can go to one house and have favorites, which house you like better, which bed is better. Totally. I definitely loved, I definitely lived the most in

the earliest years with my grandmother. We just shared a bedroom. It was really small. We lived in a small apartment, but we were very tight. We had little twin beds, just me and my grandma. It was really cute. we were very tight we had like little twin beds just me and my grandma he's really cute and is she still around no no she died in 1997 so what did your mom do the hippie mom

she worked for the government for uh for most of her career she worked worked for like a, well, she worked, she had various jobs and she worked for like a different, kind of like alternative weekly magazine for a while. She kind of pinged around a little bit

and she ended up working for the government. My dad was, did computer stuff for colleges, stuff like that. Huh. Alternative weekly.

So she was really kind of living. She was on the edge of it. She was a radical. Yes. Yes. We were like boycotting things way before it was cool. Really? Like, wait.

So this is like the 70s? Yeah. 70s. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I feel like everybody was like boycotting grapes. Yeah. Grapes were bad.

Grapes were bad. Sure. I don't remember the apple one, but I apples. Yeah, grapes were bad. Grapes were bad. Sure. I don't remember the apple one, but I remember the grapes were bad because of the slave labor, the Mexican labor. That's right. That's right. And all I ever wanted was grapes. I was just like, can we just have grapes?

Of course. Which would launch a whole other conversation about- Do you remember the apple problem? I don't remember the apple problem. I only remember it vaguely, but it was definitely. Maybe that was a Canadian problem. It was a pesticide problem.

I feel like it was, yeah, it was like a pesticide issue and it was poisoning the workers and also people who were eating the apples. It was a certain type of pesticide. Yes, I can't remember what it was called. And that started the whole scrub your vegetables hard trend.

Oh, yeah. We would scrub them. We were just like with soap. Just like every piece of fruit tasted like dish soap. For sure. Oh, really? You didn't even use the hippie soap, Dr. Bronner's, all-in-one, one-for-all soap? Yeah, no.

That I came to as an adult. I don't think we had that in Canada. Really? No Bronner's? No Dr. Bronner's. We had our own weird brands. Oh, see, but you came to Bronner's later in life. I did.

Sure. Well, you got to love that label. I think I met a boy who used Dr. No, when I was in college, maybe I started using it. And I was like, what the hell is this? And he was like, it's incredible. You use it on your whole body and you shampoo your hair with it I was like I'll try that and it just turned my hair into like yeah crusty the clown like nightmare yeah too harsh for hair horrible no no no but you can yeah you can't yeah something you can wash floors and your hair with

is that's no one product should do everything but that label man you can just say i actually interviewed the one of the the guy who runs brawners you did grandson yeah okay david brawner i interviewed him years ago because i was fascinated with his his grandfather and with you know there was a documentary about the about what there's one brawner that's a little out of his mind okay and he wrote a he made a documentary about the rest's one brawner that's a little out of his mind okay and he wrote it he made a documentary about the rest of the brawners but it was like like the old man the original dr brawner was a complete lunatic oh and who writes the stuff on the side of the bottle i don't know anything about he did he wrote it all he was like uh yeah he was like a holocaust

survivor type of guy or a guy that got out under the wire, came from a family of soap makers, set up shop and was part, you know, he kind of got because of the label and the nature of the soap, he kind of got lumped into that whole, you know, 70s, late 60s, 70s enlightenment thing. Like, you know, with all those people who were gurus and practitioners of self-help, you know, he was, you know, he was part of that. Okay. Bronner was. Okay, okay. self-help you know he was you know he was part of that okay brawner was okay okay i like the

boyfriend though like because i you know i i wear patchouli because of a girl and i've worn it for 30 years wow well it was right for you it was your destiny to find patchouli yeah i don't know it's like it's like it's a hippie thing but i just wear it just because it smells great it was kind of a witch at the time and i was fascinated with the smell of it. Okay. That's great. That's what I got. So where, so did you get, do you think you got your political mindset from your mother? I do actually.

I do. I have to give her credit for that because it was, she was just, it was always a political person and she had her own. It was important to her to take a position, to take a side on things. And it was, she just talked about it a lot and thought about it a lot. And my grandmother was much more conservative. And that was, there was a real clash between them. They loved each other, but they fought a lot. And politically they fought because

my grandmother worshipped nancy reagan that was just like so toxic to my mom but what about that but what about what you're canadians right yeah oh yeah but she it's fine that stuff is seeps over the border it's like the air we breathe i know but like why would you have like is there a relevant discussion to have about nancy reagan as a as a canadian we always followed american politics for sure for sure and it's interesting that like you guys really do i mean because i see a lot of people that seem to be more informed and more kind of agitated with canadian uh addresses and then than some Americans. Like there seems to be an attention to nuance. Like I know these people in Vancouver that are like,

you would think that they were living here with the degree of anger. There's an immense, I mean, the connective tissue is strong. And we take, you know, we intake so many american cultural products growing up in canada like you just end up watching the news from buffalo and it just sort of it just it's a very there's a very very easy flow a lot of the most of the television shows you watch are just american really you guys uh you don't have enough Canadian television shows that are engaging? How dare you? How dare you say that? How dare you, sir? So you're growing up an only child with several sets of caretakers.

Yes. And, you know, what are your interests? When do you start knowing your interests? Was it initially to be a journalist or something or what? I didn't know what I was going to do. I really was. I really floated around. I had some troubling years in high school. How did that manifest itself? I met a boy.

All my stories are boy-related today. That's okay. Dr. Bronner's, and now this is the bad one. I met a bad boy early in high school. I was 15, and we dated for a year or two. He was a very bad boy. And so I, for a while, thought that my destiny was to be a grifter. I was like, my life will be a life of crime. Normally, I went to Catholic school, and I was like, this is, my life will be a life of crime. Normally, like I went to Catholic school

and I was always a really good student and I really cared about that. And I continued to care about that even through my phase of being a very difficult person. A grifter? A grifter on the beaches of Miami was my goal. What? Did you get, you made it down to Miami?

I was like, here's our plan. Like when I, once I kind of got into his badness and I was like fully in, I was like, here's the deal. We're going to get on a flight. We're going to go to the airport. We're going to pay for two tickets to Miami in cash and we're going to work the beach. And he was like, great. And then when we were supposed to leave to go to the airport,

he was like, I don't want to go. And I was like, you're a pussy. I'm ready to go. Anyway, I worked it out of my system. And that was the end of it? No, I eventually broke up with him because I was like, I don't, hey, it was like I kind of, I honestly really woke up one day. My whole family was just collapsing under the weight of me being just a shitty person.

And I kind of woke up one day and I was like, hey, wait a minute. I don't have any friends. My family hates me. I'm actually an asshole. I'm 16 years old no one wants to spend five minutes with me because I've become this like monster of a person I'm still doing well in school but I'm an awful human being I should just stop doing all of this stuff and start being nice again and I flipped the

switch on myself and was like all done and that guy you got rid of the guy i got him loose that day i was like i'm out i don't this is too much trouble i can't live this i can't live this thank god thank god he didn't follow through with the miami plan yeah no he was really mad for a long time but i was like oh sorry once i've i just like oh I just cleaned you out of my consciousness it's weird when it turns off like that I mean like I I can I've done that no I couldn't do it in high school but adult life I have had to do that right like when it goes away it goes away when it goes away it's just gone and uh and then it wasn't meant to be though no

it was not and thank god what was what, what was the big grift? What was the plan? How are you going to work the beaches? Pick pockets. Were you, what were you like? Just like jacking cars and doing stuff like that. It was like very bad.

I'm not really, I'm not proud of that phase of my life, but I do like to talk about it. Cause I do like to just be honest with the, I do like, I like the journey of it. I do like to just be honest with the i do like i like the journey of it i'm like okay i like i like that i came clean after and i'm very honest with my kids about it i'm like here's what i did don't don't do this it was so useless what a fucking you never

got busted right no no he did i didn't which was great. Okay, so you get out of that. You change. You get rid of that guy. Yeah, I was very studious, and I thought, oh, I guess I'll go to law school. Law school? Well, no one in my family had really gone to college. Really, almost, I think maybe no one in my family ever had gone to college. Your mom didn't?

No. I knew that that was what I wanted to do. And you can go in Canada, right? You can go. I mean. Yeah, you can go. Yeah. My first year of college, I went to McGill, and it was $800.

For the year? For the semester. So it was $1,600 the year? For the semester. So it was $1,600 for a whole year. Oh, my God. Not including your living expenses and stuff like that, but the tuition is very low. It's very reasonable. Comparatively, it's like you just can't compare. So I knew I wanted to go to school.

I didn't know what I wanted to do. So I thought, okay, well, I'll take a general degree and then I'll apply to law school or something so i can be a professional degree i just need a job i gotta get a job i would like to be professional right i'd like to i would like to have a house one day i would like to have goals so unclear as to the passion or the uh yeah nothing in particular. No performance vibes. Keep being studious. Keep being studious. Right.

Like absolutely like reaching for a gold ring, just not super clear what that was. Right. So in college, I took a theater class. Like I was older, you know, I was like in my 20s, I took a theater class. I was like, this is stupid, but I'll get a grade and then it'll help me in my pursuit of the law which i also just don't give a shit about at all and would be terrible at like very bad i would not be good at that job

um and the law yeah and then i started performing and i really liked it. I really liked it. It was almost. What was it like? What was the theater? You just started doing monologues and scenes and whatnot? No, I took, you had to audition for something or you had to participate. Like one of the requirements of this class I took was you had to participate in some meaningful way to a production that they were doing at the school.

And I thought, well, okay, I'll audition for a part. And I got a part and I had to sing on stage a solo song and it was like a Brecht play and I I really liked my part I thought it was really fun to do and then like I didn't even know that you were supposed to read the whole play I only read my own part I was like completely there was one point where we were doing they were doing like a full dress rehearsal of the play and everyone was like okay now we go backstage

and they do the dress rehearsal and then you come out when it's your part I was like no but I I was like I want to see how it ends I want to know how how does it go for this guy I'm so curious. Never had no clue.

But the moment that I started, the moment that I stepped onto the stage, it was actually very, I was not fearful. Like nervous in a normal way, but not fearful. I really enjoyed it. And I thought, oh. It's so funny, though. I got to tell you that there's still many people that don't read the whole play. Really?

I've talked to a couple of actors who do movies and some of them, some of them like have, you know, read the whole thing over and over and over again. But some of them are sort of like, you know, where do I stand? Especially if it's a scene or it's just two scenes. Well, that makes sense. But I mean, I think it does happen. Maybe maybe I've even done that on glow before okay maybe i i have a hard time reading scripts i can read them but i don't always understand what's happening in them because i can't picture it so a lot of times even though

i've read the whole script i'm like oh they drive over to that place you know like so i don't i for some reason you're like well it doesn't matter it doesn't matter what happens because it's not happening to my character so like well even if it's my character i'm like oh this is in the car like there's some things i just miss right like you know i know the lines i know who i'm talking to and i know the story but oh we're not in oh i thought we were at the other oh okay all right i didn't read that i missed the stage direction and set the detail. Okay. So that's what got you going is a Brecht play in a theater class. Yep. And then how does it go from there? Then now all of a sudden you've got your passion.

Got my passion. What are you going to do with it? Going to be a really serious theater actor. Oh. Serious. That was right. Could play Lady Macbeth one day. All that. That was going to was gonna be it gonna live in

the theater gonna do that but what year of college were you did you switch your major did you switch my major yeah i switched my major and that was fun i loved it i loved it um so i was gonna do that really seriously and then there was some there was like a point where i was just in theater school for too long like i was just how old were you how come you were so uh old it seems because i switched my major halfway through i switched to something else and then i was and then i moved into i i finished college and i was like i'm gonna go now to a more conservatory style acting program because oh you know i need to know more i need to know more of the people i didn't serious i had been i needed to move to i felt i needed to move

back to toronto i had moved away for college and i moved back to toronto and i was like i gotta i don't know any of the people here i don't know any of the casting people i don't really know the theaters i've been gone for so long so to kind of get back into that or to understand the industry i thought well i'll go to like a conservatory style acting program and i'll get to know all this stuff and then it was then i was just like 25 or 26 and i was like if i i'm gonna try to do this i should quit theater school i should stop going to school and i should actually try to do this job as opposed to just studying. And my family was like, yes, please.

Can we please stop with this? And so I quit that. And then no one hired me ever. You auditioned? Yeah, for sure. A lot. And no one was interested at all. Did you get an agent or anything?

Oh, God, no. Nobody. I did not have an agent. Or I did, but she hated me. She had real resentment toward me. She did not think that I was good. She kind of took me on as a favor to someone else. And she was like, oh, God.

I've been that guy. Yeah, it's awful. So you were 26 by the time you decided you'd had enough school yeah and no one and you're going out for tv commercials and going out for stuff not getting anything and doing kind of like free acting jobs you know where you're like they're like they're at the back of a bar we're putting on a play and i was like I'll do it all right that sounds great but I did meet people and that was very valuable and two of the people that I knew and really got to know from some children's theater projects asked me to just sub in for someone at a comedy show in a sketch comedy

show oh sketch yeah yeah yeah and so I said yes because i really had nothing to lose and then i loved it and i was like oh oh okay well that's what i should be doing i should be doing comedy like definitely i'm so i'm super comfortable and i love it i love it love it love it and i could do this for free forever like no one even has to pay me for this i just enjoy it they were it was a sketch group sketch group yep and then uh i did that for a little while with them but then i started doing comedy with an all-female sketch troupe called the atomic fireballs and then we really performed a lot they were now was that was that like a long running sketch sketch group? Yeah. They were going before you joined? They were, and I joined them.

Actually, one of the women who was in that sketch group is on my show. She's one of the co-EPs of my show. And then two of them still live in Canada. They're doing other work now. But we performed a lot for many years, you know, trying to get stuff started. We were, like, very do-it-yourself. We would put on our own shows, like, plaster posters all over the city. So was the model, like, is that like the kids in the hall model?

Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you try to get, you got a thing going. Try to get a show. You got sort of a residency at a theater. Was it ever like a thing? Were they lining up to see?

We didn't have like a residency, but we performed a lot. I think people knew about us and we definitely were aiming toward getting our own show. Like that was definitely on our minds. We were performing all the time. How many people were in it, five? Four. There were four of us. Oh, four of you. How many people were in it? Five? Four. There were four of us. Oh, four of you. So like you went in and pitched executives and stuff? Yeah. All around that time we were planning, I guess there were little opportunities and

showcases. It wasn't like a big wide talent search for comics or a talent search for sketch comedians but we definitely I think we were on people's lists to some extent then in 2003 I got hired at The Daily Show and then we still continued to try to pitch a show with ourselves which Atomic Fireballs yeah and then and no one in Canada no one wanted it no one wanted it oh anyway so you're you just you started to do the segments for The Daily Show. Did you move to New York? I did. I did.

But you still had the connection with. Yeah, of course. With the women in Canada. Yep. And that was still sort of the dream. How long you were with them for years? Years. I would say I can't even.

I'm so my memory is so bad. It was many, many years. But I can't tell you how many years. So how does a Daily Show audition sort of happen? That's 2003. So they've been on the air a while, right? How long had John been on? I feel like I don't remember when he started.

1999 maybe he started? Yeah, maybe that's it. Maybe he took it over in 99? Anyway, we watched it. I got married in 2000. When the, oh my God, I can't remember anything. Where'd you meet that guy? I met that guy doing children's theater.

Really? We did a touring children's show, which was a live action version of the anime show Sailor Moon. Oh, okay. Yeah. So good. But where'd you tour with that? When did that happen? That happened in the 90s.

Like 97 we met, I would say. Like 97. We started dating in 1997. in the 90s like 97 we met i would say like 97 we started so you were doing 1997 you were doing the atomic fireballs and the fireballs doing children's shows doing you know piecing it all together how you do so that's uh kind of cute that you met doing children's shows yes i think it's cute we're we were in it today we didn yeah, we didn't like date immediately. Even we respected our work environment. We didn't date each other for a long time. But you knew you liked kids, I imagine.

No, doing children's theater has nothing to do with liking children. It can really turn you against children. It's a desperate act. Is that what you're saying? It's not where anyone, it that what you're saying? It's not where anyone, it's not where you would choose necessarily, but it's a good training ground.

Right. For what? For kids or theater? Just for taking the humiliations of show business just to prepare you for what show business is going to deliver to you on a very regular basis you're just like i believe that i've been at the bottom i can

fucking take it right right you know what i mean one more uppercut i could take these body blows well this yeah this is like i'm seeing the the you know the things that you're made of you you know you you dated the criminal and you did children's theater. Resilience. Who's going to hurt you? This person has grit. You understand? I'll be the last man standing.

Yeah. Like a cockroach. So how does the Daily Show audition come about? Oh, yeah. They were looking for a woman, actually a they were looking for a woman actually they were looking for a woman and they came to toronto because of second city they were like there are some very quality women at second city so we will see those women and those women only i was not at second city but there weren't enough women at second city at the time to like fill the day

to make it did you try to do Second City? For sure. And they would not have me. Anyways, it's great. So just to like beef out the day for the Daily Show producers, my agent was like, do you want to just go do this? Do you want to do, it's like john daly show with stewart have you heard of it and i was very familiar with i really liked it right i love the show so i auditioned on

the day in toronto and then a few months later they had me come down to new york and then i got the job and then we did not like jason and i had a I was like, don't you move down, because they're for sure going to fire me soon. Yeah. So let's not get rid of our stuff here. You stay here. Yeah. Right. Go check it out.

I'll be, like, the first team. And they did not fire me, and so then he did move down, and then we've been living here ever since. So we've been here since 2003. Did you meet with John at first, and he just kind of talked to you or no we've met um i just went right into the studio they were had they had a lot of people in that day right so i just showed up at the building i mean i was very scared i didn't have anywhere to go in new york i like got off a plane and put on a sweaty shirt and sat in a Starbucks for two and a half hours or something like that. I was like,

ain't I have anywhere to be? Where am I? And so I went to this, they, you would just come in and they'd be like, here's your laugh mic. And so they miked me up and I just went in and he was there at the desk. And so I sat at the desk and I did a bit with him and that

was it and then I left and as I was like leaving the building I noticed that there were closed circuit tv screens everywhere and they were just playing everyone's auditions the whole staff and I was like oh my god people just watched me horrible. And then I got lost in the building getting out because once I was done and I gave them the laugh, they were like, bye. And then I was like, I can't find my way out. So I got lost in the stairwell and I finally found my way out. And then they did hire me. So that was good.

And you were there forever, right? I was there forever for like 12 years or something like that long time long time and how does it like how did it work there I mean I don't talk I don't know that I've talked to anybody lately about that experience and certainly you know John will never talk to me ever because it's just not good with us. Okay. And so I don't know like what that process was or how much he was involved with the actual production. I mean, you worked with guys.

I'm sure I know who were the segment producers you worked with. Mostly. I'm trying to remember that guy's name. That did all of those. He was also a standup. We had, there were different, there were really distinct departments in the show.

There was the field department. And then there was kind of like the studio and writers department. Yeah. And I really did a lot of like really where I cut my teeth was in the field department. Just like going out, flying to some weird place, shooting for two days and coming back and piecing that all together. Yeah. and coming back and piecing that all together. And so that department was small but very, what's the word? Like very bonded. Yeah. We had our own process.

And for me, that was my favorite part of doing the show because it was very much an independent study project. And certainly John was for sure involved, especially at the end, as we were editing the piece. But it was very expressive of how I felt or my approach to something as well as the producer. It was very collaborative. It was a super collaborative experience, which I really loved and still love. Who were the producers that you work with the most oh jim

margolis and stew miller and ian berger and brennan schroff there was like people cycled through bronwyn epstein she was great kathy egan she was great um lots of so you actually saw a lot of a lot of people come, like you were this, you were always there. I'm kind of a constant, yeah. And you kind of trained producers that went on to do other things. I think that's fair to say, but like at first they were training me,

you know, it took, it's a really long learning curve. Like it's hard to get to know how to interview people. You know that, like it's hard. Well, especially to do it people you know that like it's like it's hard well especially to do it in a way you know that you're i don't it's not that you're going to manipulate it but it's going to be framed a certain way yeah there's just like a lot of

layers to the conversation like you're trying to be conversational you're trying to get information you're trying to like build a story and you're trying to do jokes there's like just a lot of stuff and most of the time the subjects knew where you were coming from correct they did yeah they did i wasn't i didn't try to hide that too often i think i at the beginning i didn't really know i didn't have i wasn't really on sure footing so i don't really know what i was doing but it's sort of interesting that some of them who like knew that they were going to be not attacked but framed a certain way really had the confidence to think that they could sort of like hold their own yeah yeah in in the context like people think that they could sort of like hold their own. Yeah, yeah. In the context. Like people think that they can, people think that they're going to figure out what the bit is

and that they're going to best you in whatever stupid bit you're trying to do, which they never really. You get to edit it. You get to edit it. Yeah, you get to edit it. It's crazy that they fall for it every time but also like my style or my approach and i really do believe this like if you and this really evolved because at the beginning

like the process of doing field pieces really changed a lot like at first it was like this is a stupid thing that's happening let's make fun of this dumb thing yeah it became a little more grounded i would say the process got more grounded and then and we were doing higher stakes stories like it wasn't just like a guy who knits cozies for his balls like we weren't really doing stories like that anymore and so the stakes felt a little higher. The stories were a lot more interesting and more political and had, you know, anyway, there were stakes involved. Yeah.

My approach to people was more like, well, you have an opinion about something. You're very vocal about it. I don't agree with you. But if you're going to be very vocal about an odious opinion, you should at least defend your idea. Yeah. And often their defense of their bad idea, they would pretend that they'd been edited out of context.

But I'm like, no, you've provided the context. This is how you feel. If you don't like how it looks, you should change how you feel because it does look bad because it's a bad idea. Oh, so that became their defense is that, you know, if the final piece made them look like the idiots that they are, they blamed you for manipulating it. Yes. Yes. But I'm like, well, you just have bad opinions. If this is the first time you've ever seen your own opinions out loud,

well, I'm sorry, but here you go. It's so funny that the way that you guys would give things a little bit of air for comedic effect, like let things sit there. Right. You know, like that, you know, and they just are hoisted. I guess that's the way you use that, hoisted on their own petard by just their point of view and allowing it to sit there or just have a reaction to it.

Right. And it's that easy. So uncomfortable. It's a terrible feeling. Oh, it's awful. Do you uncomfortable. It's a terrible feeling. Oh, it's awful. Do you remember, were there a lot of incidents where you felt either, not bad, but that it was like, this is not a good situation? Well, I guess it depended on the subject themselves. Yeah.

Well, I guess it depended on the subject themselves. There were certainly times where I would love it, actually, to go into an interview and come out feeling personally changed by someone or just to feel like I think I understand where this person is coming from. And then you were also editing compassionately. You also were editing to not ruin a person's life. Because people would make terrible mistakes in their interviews and come across much worse than they actually were. Just sort of not.

Oh, really? So you wanted to balance that. There's a balance that you could strike with people. Or people are very vulnerable when a camera is shining that lens in their face and there's lights everywhere it's like it's really intimidating it's really hard to get used to for anyone even if that's your profession it's hard to get used to so right there was like there was a tenderness to the editing too it's not like we're in there like us to the editing too it's not like we're in there like like the wild west going like yeah let's fuck you like there was definitely a lot of nuance and a lot of consideration when we were

putting the pieces together well yeah because that was you know the tone of the of those pieces had to you wanted to keep getting people to do them of course yeah and there were enough people who would say things that were so awful that you just didn't want to like even amplify those ideas you just didn't want to give them the platform to say the things well that's a problem now with uh you know with an abundance of content and people willing to give voice to anybody thinking that, you know, just having a different point of view is enough to counter it. It's not anymore. So, you know, if you give if you give platform to monsters, monsters are going to hear it

and they're going to be it's a victory for them. Yeah. They feel attracted to that. I mean, there's such a thing as too much free speech she said yeah well that's oh no i said that when with twitter i was like me it wasn't it better when not everybody had a voice i mean i feel like we could curate it a little better exactly you know if you want me to go in there and just clean it up a little, I'm happy to do that. No problem.

Sure. Me and my, I got a crew. We'll go in, a cleaning crew. We'll sweep it up. So you were there for what, like 12, 13 years? Yeah, 12 years. Yeah, 12 years. And then.

And your relationship with John was always like sort of professional, like you didn't hang out? No, we didn't hang out. Always professional, like always of professional like you didn't hang out no we didn't hang out always professional like always very professional and um i'm like i didn't mean that in a sordid way i just meant that you know like you weren't friends outside of work no no i know what you mean like i definitely when i was moving to new york i was like we're gonna have so many pool parties yeah and then i realized that we were coworkers. Right. He was my boss.

Yeah. But he was like really actually very generous in helping me to kind of figure out what my point of view was in this world, I would say. Like I felt like I had a real chance to explore. I definitely felt like I got to explore some things that were really important to me. Oh, interesting. So you were coming from Canada with your, you know, whatever your political point of view and whatever your relationship with American politics was, and you, you had to somehow get schooled on the nuance of things and the, the sort of point of view of of the side that you were sympathetic towards and he and did what and by giving you space or or helping you learn these things were these conversations or just suggestions around what you were coming in with no I think more like I think in it really that really evolved

over time so toward the end I would say like toward the latter part of my tenure there, it was very, I was more confident. I guess I was more confident, a performer. And I really, it took me a long time to like learn that craft. So I just learned that I could actually flex those muscles and not rely. And I could rely on myself. I could rely on those muscles and not rely. And I could rely on myself. I could rely on my own point of view. And I could lean into it more. Yeah, yeah.

And I had the freedom to do so. And now, of course, I have total freedom to do that, which is a totally different experience. And I love it. But it was really great prep. It was really great prep. And yeah, and I just just so when you left was it um did you leave because you were done or because you were why I mean did you leave to do the other

show was that the plan we my husband and I worked there together he was also of course he also came to become a correspondent there and And we shared an office. And there were a lot of periods of downtime there. What's his name? His name is Jason Jones. Oh, yeah. And we knew. He's a very productive person.

He's a writer. He's just such a hard worker worker he's just always working on something he's just like built for work and i really admire that about him so what's he doing right now he's literally working on a pitch for a show right now in the other room he's always doing that like always doing that yeah um uh so we would take our time like we would take our downtime when we were there and just be in the office together and be constantly writing and writing projects and and pitching on projects and going to the networks and pitching pilots and selling pilot scripts and film scripts and stuff like that we spent all of our downtime trying to sell something else because we know

that eventually we would want our name on something. We didn't know what form that would take. We didn't know. Did you sell stuff? Did you actually sell movies or anything? Oh yeah, we did. They were never made and we sold a lot of pilot scripts and he,

we sold pilot scripts as a duo, but he also sold film scripts on his own and pilot scripts on his own so we were just always working on stuff yeah collaborating because we wanted to take ownership and we knew that it was an opportunity to not only do that job but to like put some foundational like to building blocks you know to a real career and in the end sort of like right around the time when John was getting ready to leave we did sell we sold a pilot script scripted pilot to TBS uh like a show called The Detour and it got greenlit so we made the pilot we actually got to film the pilot and that was the first time that that had ever happened and it was great it really was what was it it was a it's called the detour it's a half hour scripted comedy

we did four seasons of it so it got oh you guys oh yeah you did it and but you were just producers you weren't in it jason was in it he's the dad in the show it's a it's an absolute and i say this it's such a funny show it's like so funny to me it's a jewel box of a show there's only four seasons they're fucking great that's the right amount of seasons yep it was it's it's perfect um so we were leaving for that we actually were gonna leave and go make that show we were just waiting to see if it would get picked up. And then John decided he was leaving. And we were like, well, this is it. Everything's come together. They picked up our show and we were, we were leaving. We just, it was just, the timing was perfect. And then TBS also offered me my own show. And so I said, yes. And then that was it. So we were gone at that point.

So you guys were already in business with TVS with the detour. We were. Yeah. Yes, we were. And you had it like you were the creator and executive producer of that. Yep. And you had a writer's room and you had a bunch of people doing it. We did. Yeah.

Yes. I'm sorry I haven't seen it. I don't watch a lot of things. No, I understand. But it is really good. And I think you would find it funny. So when they gave you your own show, so you were now going to be a producer and a boss and the host of the show. Yes.

That must have been a new thing for you. Very new. Very new. So how did you tap? How did you decide to put it together? How did you hire the right? I think your producer is a guy I worked with briefly. Yes, Miles.

Yeah, you know Miles. That's right. I do know Miles. He's great. He's been there since the beginning. Elena Harkin's been there since the beginning, who I worked with in the Atomic Fireballs. I definitely put together a small team of people

and we just built out from there. It was really intimidating. It was really intimidating starting a show from nothing. The network was super supportive. They actually were very supportive. I won't say that I wasn't. I mean, I just was like, just terrified until it launched, until the day it launched.

So probably for about a year, I was, had like nervous, just like Rolaids at all times, just like popping antacids, trying to keep my head above water. And they really, even after the show started, it's a real journey. Like going from being someone's employee to being people's boss is a whole different situation. But as a performer, you knew to play to your strengths. You knew the area that you wanted to deal with. You knew that you could do the stuff that you were great at. I for sure didn't think

that we would get past six episodes. Like, for sure. I was like, here's a great opportunity to try something and to be, like, really audacious with a point of view, and then we'll get canceled, but we'll have six,

maybe we'll get, like, six episodes of this thing. Really? And then this will be, like, a calling card. You know, you, like, think of everything in terms of then this will be like a calling card you know you like think of everything in terms of calling cards like then it's like a proof of concept for if someone wants to do something again in the future but um anyway it just it it worked like it it was it landed at the right time yeah people, people love it. Yeah, and I love it. So who knows?

Sometimes you just stumble into things that don't seem like I wouldn't have said. It's not like I would have said when I was 25, I'm going to host a show one day. I wouldn't have thought that in one billion years. Right, but the good thing about it is no matter how nervous you were, you were thoroughly prepared to do the type of show that you set out to do. Yeah. Right. Yes.

And and it seems like, you know, over time and fairly quickly that, you know, you sort of you were able to pull pull together your own audience. But a lot of people already knew you like pretty, pretty fucking well, I would think, you you know over the time you were at the daily show and i would think that the fact that john leaving and that show shifting into something different probably was you know helpful in some ways i think so i think it all kind of just the timing of it was really great the The timing really worked out for sure. And also I know that like, you know, you were part of at the beginning that you really had to take into consideration as all these shows do these shows with comedic segments that,

um, that a lot of your audience was not going to watch in a traditional way. They were going to watch online. They were going to watch pieces. They were going to watch pieces. They were going to, like, because I know that, like, you seem to be ahead of the curve with, you know, people watching clips from your show. Yes.

Well, we knew that. I mean, it's just like, it's also how I digest content. Like, I don't, I'm not, I don't really sit down and watch a ton of tv like i don't really watch a lot of television i don't right yeah yeah i don't want to i i just don't have a lot of investment in time like if you had a show like we're my whole family's watching lost right now we're just watching lost in quarantine that's yeah we're so late to the, but my kids are into it and it's, there's so many episodes. It's a really good show for us to be watching. I've never watched it.

Yeah. It's good for all of us during quarantine. The kids, like they look forward to it all day. Then we sit down and there's 150 episodes or something like that. So we always have something kind of at the end of the day together, which is really nice. But like, I would never watch that show if it was on week to week and I had to watch commercial. Like, I don't digest things that way.

I don't go, let me wait for next week's. Oh, I wonder what will happen in seven days. Like, I don't have the attention span. I used to, I like that still. I mean, I like it when shows are released. Yeah, because if I, I mean, there are shows in my life, like when The Sopranos was on, I was excited about Sundays. That's true.

Same with Mad Men. It's rare these days, though. It's more rare. Sure, Breaking Bad. It was like, I can't, you know. But I liked watching things like that. I don't like binge watching because I can't stop and, you know, you end up staying up all night.

It's ridiculous. It's like, give me the week. But yeah, I know what you're saying. Right. So maybe we chopped it up partially because of my own attention span. Because I'm like, can you entertain me in three minutes? No, but you have to be aware of it. I mean, there has to be some level where you're like,

your online presence has to, I mean, as a boss, in working with the network, did you have to put a whole other team in place to do that number? We do have a digital team, but it's really small. It's still like a pretty scrappy show. I think we're still kind of a scrappy size. And our departments are small but highly functional um so it's not like we have like a home base of like at the network level people putting out our content we're still like right piecing it together ourselves and we're like let's put some copy on this and send it out and let's see what happens with this,

you know? Right. But I think that's a, that's a good place for us to be. I like good scrappy, scrappy. So in, is your mom still around and everything?

She is. She lives very far away. She lives on a, yeah, she lives on a very remote Island off the coast of Vancouver Island. She's like, she's composting up there? For sure. I mean, like with worms and everything.

Oh, great. Like the worms. Does she like the show? Does she watch you? I actually don't know if she watches it all that much. She's not a person that can really be contained. You know, it's hard to describe. She's not a person that can really be contained. She's hard to describe.

Sometimes she'll go, what was that blouse? And that's the only text I get. What were you thinking? Why so many flies around your face? As we're shooting it in the backyard, there's like gnats everywhere because it's really moist right now. Oh really?

Yeah. So you got to deal with the bugs? Yeah, there's like bugs and stuff. Oh, and the summer's going to, oh,

it's not going to get any better. It's not, no, it's going to be really, it's just going to be different bugs flying around, biting things. And we're going to be

in this for a while, it seems. We're going to be in this. It feels, it feels like it's going to take a long time. I don't. We're going to be in this for a while, it seems. It feels like it's going to take a long time. I don't know what's going to happen. Nobody does. Yeah, not a great feeling, is it? Not really.

Not really. Don't love uncertainty. I like to know things. Yeah, and no regimens. You've got to create new patterns. I'm just going to go to law school. Pursue my first love for law. You're going to go to law school online finally?

That's right, yes. I think the lost idea for a family that's never watched it's a very good idea. Did you come up with that yourself? I feel like that could have been a genius Jason move because I wouldn't have thought of that. Yeah, I feel like that's a Jason special. To find an old show that has hundreds of episodes. Hundreds of episodes.

That an entire family can watch. That's right. God, that's good thinking. That's smart. That's good parenting. That's quarantine parenting. It is. Let's see.

I'm going to take a picture of us. I did it. You did it you did it just happened i love it happened i like it let me it was great talking to you samantha hey this is a real pleasure your pleasure to talk to you sir i think it worked out pretty good it was great really it's like it's really it's different it's it's new for me to do this. In this way, without this choice? Yeah, I get so nervous, man. I'm already anxious, you know.

But even if I don't know a lot about somebody, if they come over, there's a thing where, you know, like, it becomes an organic thing. Sure. When you're just like, you're in your environment. I mean, Cate Blanchett, her son was playing with his phone right next to her during our interview. I'm like, I just see an elbow. I'm like, what's happening? You're like.

Oh, my God. I have no control over this situation. Oh, yeah. Was Cate Blanchett nice? Is she nice? Very intense. I think she's great. Okay.

She's very bright, very intellectual. Yeah. She seems nice, but well-guarded. Okay. We'll take a couple shots of you out of the gate just to establish a certain dominance. Really? Oh, my God. I love her.

Oh, my God. That's great. She gets on. She's like, are you in your basement? And I'm like, no. Oh. Oh. Right out of the gate.

Like, all right, let's go. This is where I am. Now you can, you know, come at me. Okay. Exciting. Titillating. But it was great talking to you and thank you for doing it. Thank you for having me.

It's a pleasure. I'll see you soon in person somewhere. All right. See you later. That was Samantha Bee. Again, Full. That was Samantha Bee. Again, Full Frontal with Samantha Bee airs Wednesday nights at 10.30, 9.30 Central on TBS. I'm going to play this piece that Lynn liked.

It's just an extended riff on a similar thing I did for the last piece in the film, Sword of Trust. I miss Lynn. I miss Lynn Shelton. I miss Wynne Shelton. Thank you. guitar solo Thank you. Boomer lives. No balls on Uber Eats. But meatballs and mozzarella balls. Yes, we can deliver that. Uber Eats. Get almost, almost anything. Order now. Product availability may vary by region.

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