WTF with Marc Maron Podcast - Episode 1521 - Todd Glass

Episode Date: March 14, 2024

When Todd Glass was on WTF back in 2012, he decided to do something that changed his entire life. Now, twelve years later, Todd is looking to change the way he does comedy for the rest of his career. Todd tells Marc about his new stage show, The Event of a Lifetime, why he wants to do it forever, and the challenges he’s facing while putting it on its feet. They also talk about the state of comedy today, the benefits of tour buses, and hugging. Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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What the fuck? Nick's? How's it going? I'm Mark Maron, this is my podcast. I'm recovering. I'm recovering from a few days on the road. What day is it? It's Thursday for you. You must be thinking, why would it take so long? I don't know, man. You know, you get out there, we did some great shows.

I think I talked about it the last time I was on the mics here. The last show, where were we? In Tarrytown. That was interesting. Nice place, nice little town. Kind of upscale-ish people, all adults, but for some reason out of all the shows, that's including Boston, Providence, and Portland, for some reason I had, there was some, someone in the crowd. I couldn't get a, a, a take on it, who, who it was, but there was someone in one of the balconies that was causing some trouble.

It went on and off for a while. I mean, I handled it well. It was funny, but apparently the cops had to come and you know, you're on stage. You don't even notice his stuff. But aside from that great show hands on did all right. Claire O'Kane opened for me for the full run. She was great. And I don't know, I just, a lot of driving, a lot of talking, a lot of eating. But ultimately, you know, getting up on Sunday morning to record the show for Monday and then Sunday night being jacked up driving from Terry town

to JFK at you know, Tanlitt night staying at that TWA hotel. That's crazy. Have you guys looked that up? Do you know what it is? It was it's the old TWA terminal. I remember that terminal as a functioning the old TWA terminal. I remember that terminal as a functioning terminal when I was a kid. It's sort of a mid-century modern masterpiece architecturally, but it's kind of a trip because they left it primarily intact. It's a very practical place to stay if you got to catch a plane in the morning, which I did and it worked out. But very odd when something that was something else becomes a hotel. Even the place where were we in Portland,

that was an old newspaper building. But you know, that's just the frame of the building. I mean, they've got it all set up like where you check in, it's the ticket counter. It looks like a terminal, a terminal lost in time. And there's a very famous walkway that used to go, I think, from the front to the actual terminals that's still intact. You've seen that in a lot of movies in the old TWA terminal.

I don't know when it was built, but it was kind of a trip, man. It didn't feel quite right, but it's really stunning to look at. You feel like you're in some sort of, you know, time machine or some sort of spaceship from an era where spaceships might have looked like that on television anyways. But I recommend you check it out. And I'm not getting a paid plug and I can't even say it was an amazing hotel necessarily. It was good, but you're in an airline terminal and you're sitting there, but I mean it's better than Hilton or something, but it's really kind of wild to be in that structure,

especially if you have some childhood memories of it from flying into Kennedy at any time. I don't know when, I don't even know that I registered it being gone. That Trans World Airlines is no longer, I mean that's what my family used to fly. DWA! And there I was in a hotel room in the terminal. And when you walk around, you get out of your room, it's, it's, it's weird because, you know, it feels like, you know, people are on their way to their planes

or something. I don't know. But it was an experience. Today on the show, I talked to Todd Glass again. He's been on three times in the past back on episode 32, 245, and 499. It was on the episode from 2012 that Todd came out publicly as gay. He's hosted his own podcast for 12 years. It's the Todd Glass show. His Netflix special is called Act Happy. He's now working on a new show, Todd Glass, The Event of a Lifetime. And always great to talk to Todd. I thought we might add a minor issue, but we resolved it, we talked about it, you'll hear it.

So there was a little of that old school WTF vibe of are we okay? But Todd's always, you know, he's he's going he you know he he he rev it up in go he starts and then and here we go but I love him and I've known him for a very long time so we talked to him I've added dates some new dates on my tour here so listen up there's a presale going on right now for all of these cities Asheville North Carolina at the Orange Peel on August 8th. Nashville, Tennessee at the James K. Polk Theater on August 9th. I'm back at this place. Louisville,

Kentucky at the Baumhard Theater on August 10th. And I hope I don't bomb hard. Lexington, Kentucky at the Lexington Opera House on August 11th. Santa Barbara, California at the Lobero Theater on August 22nd. San Luis Obispo, California at the Fremont Theater on August 23rd, Monterey, California at the Golden State Theater on August 24th, Iowa City, Iowa at the Ingward Theater on September 5th, Des Moines, Iowa at Hoyt Sherman Place on September 6th, Kansas City, Missouri at the Midwin Theater on September 7th, Tucson, Arizona at the Rialto Theater on September 20th, Oklahoma City at the Midland Theater on September 7th, Tucson, Arizona at the Rialto Theater on September 20th, Oklahoma City at the Tower Theater on October 3rd,

Dallas, Texas at the Majestic on October 4th, Houston, Texas at the White Oak Music Hall on October 5th, San Antonio, Texas at the Empire Theater on October 6th, Boulder, Colorado at the Boulder Theater on October 19th, Jolietta, Illinois at the Rialto Square Theater on October 24th, Skokiet, Illinois at the Rialto Square Theatre on October 24th, Skokie, Illinois at the North Shore Center on October 25th, and Grand Rapids,

Michigan at GLC Live on October 26th. All of those shows have a pre-sale going on right now with password ALL IN. No space. ALL IN. I'd do it in all caps if I were you no space so it looks like Allen spelled with an I general tickets go on sale at all venues tomorrow go to WTF pod comm slash tour to get links to all the venues I'll have a couple more dates to announce next week man I didn't even realize I was gonna be this busy. Jeez. Oh, I also want to mention my old pal Brian Scolero. Brian Scolero, the very funny, naturally funny, one of my favorite guys

to watch. Brian Scolero has a special called I Don't Know Who I Am Either. It's out now. You can get it on digital video on demand platforms like platforms like YouTube Vimeo and Amazon and Apple TV Brian Scolero, I don't know who I am either Guaranteed to get some laughs funny man, oh My god, I finally watched all the Oscar movies and I watched the Oscars by the way I did I watched him a few days later I didn't think I was going to watch them, but I watched them.

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how I live my life just to to sort of like not Not feel it entirely not be consumed I feel like all of a sudden I've just started to land back in my body and then this is yeah, you know not just a grief about Lynn Shelton passing but you know, my parents are are having a difficult time and yeah, I don't know I just I feel like I'm waking up from a Sort of waking consciousness a haze. It's not great You know, you know, but I've been dealing with it and I think it's good, but it's become sort of clear to me, you know, some of the things I have to do,

some of the actions I have to take to not be, you know, when you come out of a tunnel and you hit reality, you don't want that just to be a wall. You have to navigate. This isn't even part of the ad anymore. So anyway, I watched the Oscars. I thought they were very enjoyable. Got some laughs, got some tears, got moved. It was fun seeing the movie stars. It seems like there's a a kind of a a new old guard happening. You know when I was growing up, you could see all the old actors from

back in the day and Nicholson He's just sit up front and you always like seeing him. But now maybe that's gonna be Robert Downey I don't know there were a lot of people who weren't there because I don't think the the spectacle of it is as enticing as it once was if you don't have a horse in the race, but but it did feel like there was a community and there was a vibe between everybody and it was a It was a pretty good time and obviously a lot of the movies were pretty great.

And I was happy when Gosling sang the Ken song. I thought it was all pretty funny. You do find out or figure out or see who's really funny because it's tough to be funny as a presenter and the people that are really funny as presenters you're like, those are the really funny people. But I did watch finally, Past Lives, and I found it to be a kind of amazing singular movie.

Because I've noticed this a lot with lately that, you know, when I watch something like Reservation Dogs, you know, I get a sort of window in to a culture that when I watch something like Reservation Dogs, I get a sort of window in to a culture that I didn't have before. And the reason that I sort of can take it in with a certain amount of nuance because it's played against

this sort of American cultural reality. Reservation Dogs is about native people who live in this country now and how they're living and the speed and spirituality and humor of that particular community comes through because it's here. And I can kind of see it through those eyes because it's shot through those eyes.

Not unlike Rami Youusuf's show, Rami and the American Muslim Experience, because of his character who is not tormented but certainly straddling two worlds, you know, it gives me sort of a way to sort of integrate the experience of an American Muslim. Not unlike Past Lives, which is really a love story that doesn't end tragically, but it's a heavy-hearted love story, and it doesn't end, it doesn't have a necessarily happy ending, but it is a thoughtful and emotionally deep ending in a very unique way. And the cultural differences kind of play out

with a Korean woman who lives here, whose family immigrated to the States when she was very young and her best friend a boy who was in love with her when they were 12 when she left and the sort of like the the kind of weight of that love that continues on through his life and Turns out to have continued on a bit through hers but cultural differences in terms of how people deal with emotions ambitions and the sort of trappings of of cultures that being the American Korean woman and the Korean Man who still lives in Korea and and the experience of of of what becomes to of someone

When they live here and become americanized and marry an American guy and how that plays against someone who never left their homeland in a kind of like, I wouldn't say it was fraught, but an unrequited love affair. It was really a stunning movie and it was a very sort of, I wouldn't say a sparse script, but it was very lean and shot beautifully and scenes were really allowed to play out with full emotional weight.

I can't believe I waited this long to watch it and I can't even tell you why I did, but what a rich film and a movie that I'm still thinking about two days later. Folks, look, I know you're busy and as we established earlier, I know you're busy and as we established earlier I'm always busy too. So we're on the same page. That's why I want to help you make the most of your day by hooking you up with Factor, the ready to eat meal kits that make

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that bright minds and future thinking problem solvers are tackling some of the world's greatest challenges from right here in Calgary. From cleaner energy, safe and secure food, efficient movement of goods and people, and better health solutions, Calgary's visionaries are turning heads around the globe, across all sectors each and every day. Calgary's on the right path forward. Take a closer look out at calgaryeconomicdevelopment.com. We had an experience outside and I kind of held my hand We had an experience outside and I kind of held my hand half out maybe for the shake and then he said, are you a shake? Do you hug?

And we hugged and then we had a discussion about it and you said that the hugging is new to you. Not new new, but I was not, my mom was very affectionate, very very affectionate. That's what does it. It's so funny. I think, oh God, that's what did it. Oh, I thought I was gonna say it was my problem. It's her problem.

When I met a group of friends, like after I graduated high school, I met some, like I hung out at a bar all the time. I met some friends there and they were just all more affectionate. They were huggers, even at like 20, 21 years old. So I became more affectionate through that group of friends that I had.

But anyway. My brother, I don't mind hugging, but I rarely surrender to it completely, because that makes people uncomfortable. It's a polite hug, you don't wanna just give in. Depends who it is. Right, but my brother was always a huggy guy. He actually, I don't know if you remember when we were kids,

there was a therapist named Leo Buscaglia. Buscaglia? Yes, he was good, yes, yes. And my brother- The power of huggy? Yeah, something like the power of hugging, was it? I don't know, Leo Buscaglia, was it Buscaglia, whatever. We're saying a close-back guy, I knew y'all,

he was a brilliant guy. Right, well my brother was a kid, younger than me, me must have been in junior high and it just really resonated with him So we had to really deal with my brother doing a lot of hugging And it was it was probably the right thing to do. I think that because I didn't do it He's more well adjusted than me because my mom was not a hugger. It was uncomfortable Well by nature people are pretty affectionate. I think I do I think so too I I you know, I question it but I think it's true. Yeah. Yeah, we just had a lot of that's why Yeah, I don't like go ahead. Everything my instincts are always wrong. So whatever I'm gonna talk about

What are you talking about? You're at the top of your game. All right. Thank you. Thank you. I agree actually Yeah, um me too the Whenever they go oh now today a guy, you know, they have to say oh man can do this or you know They tell God all they're doing is letting people do what they did No one's running over a kid when he's not crying and going, you know, you're allowed to cry, right? They always cry They always like pink and blue and black and boys and girls like that

We we we they always try to make it like we're trying to shift the dynamics of what people are we're saying no No, no, no no and right with Some factuality we're not saying we're just saying let them do what they already fucking do by nature Yeah, don't don't be well. Yeah, don't question it don't be hyper vigilant right think you're suggesting it Don't wonder whether well, I mean you should wonder I don't know we don't have kids. What are we even talking about? I have nieces and nephews. That's nice. You don't have to have a heart attack to give open-heart surgery No, that's true. I didn't even I don't know ifces and nephews. You don't have to have a heart attack to give open heart surgery. No, that's true. I don't know if that made sense or not,

but I said it and it really stopped you right there. Felt good. Felt good to say. Now I was trying to remember, I mean you haven't been on here a long time. It's been a long time. You did the first one, which was a big one, made global news.

And then I think you came back in 2014, if my research is correct. Little touch up. Now let me remind me, cause we have an opportunity here, maybe to do an old store, old style episode. We had a problem, right? Do we have a minor problem?

Oh, okay. I remember it was- You mean it's Steve Finehart's birthday? It was a misunderstanding of something. Was it there or was it Sarah's rooftop party? I think it was- It was Sarah's rooftop party. Right. Oh, you know what? Um, okay You know you you can really you can do

Look you you helped me do something that has changed my life forever Yeah, I don't care if it's 12 years ago It has impacted me right and the way you guided me through it was you know I it was you know, I can feel a little little tears coming on right now You guided me through it beautifully. So look you you really cannot you can you can't do any wrong really, right? Oh now I feel bad for bringing up but oh, I love saying this expression I don't know where I got it from thank God or thank the nature that things don't have to be the end of the world To bring up because they did I wouldn't bring this up, right? It's not but you can bring things up And I thought you were slipping into this,

you know I love you guys. You know I love you guys. Well, for that to be, like for something to be shabby, chic, you have to have the chic. That makes sense, and I'll tie it together. So to be I know you love you guy, you gotta say I love you sometimes. You gotta say nice things, so then the cold is,

it's not, you're not a parody of yourself. Why, it feels like maybe I took something for granted. Maybe you took me for granted. I'm like, Mark doesn't know how funny I am, I told Steve I go, because he'd be a little more nervous around me if he could, if he saw my show. Everyone thinks they know what you do, and not that you have to gain respect from people

by their artistic integrity or what they do, but in this business, it's something. But yeah, I forget what you were doing, but I was like, oh, Mark, it's okay to say nice things too, and good to see you. Oh, yeah, right, right. Instead, I was like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

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here to say? And I'm like, Oh God. But, but again, you sent me a very sweet Steve, well, Steve fine arts. I said, don't say anything, please. And then he did. Yeah. That's like, that's like, uh, putting it on the radio. You sent me a very kind, uh, I think a voice memo or a text. Yeah. Yeah. It was very sweet. It was very sweet. Yeah, well, I felt bad. I mean, like, I, you know, I don't, you know, I'm just one of these guys that can very easily rub people the wrong way with a snarky or snappy or sarcastic thing.

And also, by the way, sometimes that fucking makes me laugh so hard. Yeah, it's a- So it's not, it's not, all I'm saying is, come on, bring it. Say something sweet once in a while. That way you're not a, I call it, you know, I love you guy. You know those guys, you know, I love you, you know, I love you.

Yeah. No, it's been a while. Yeah. It's been a while since you told me, not told me you love me, but show affection. So then the harshness is, is, is a funny. Well, I think what happens with our community, especially when we've, you know, we've known each other for fucking 30 years. Yeah, but don't put it on everybody else.

No, no, no, but what I'm saying is that we're all friends, quote unquote friends, because we're in this community and we have a shorthand and we do know each other kinda well, but rarely do I spend time with a lot of the comics, but you feel this familiarity. It's like Jews, you know, like, oh, it's a Jew, I know a Jew, and you know, they're not great.

But, you know, so the familiarity is, it doesn't take into consideration, like this guy's got a whole life, you know, he's going through whatever he's going through, you know, be nice first and then hurt them. Yeah, and the... Pfft! Ha!

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Uh, uh, yes, yes. But it was still good to see you in that party. I get nervous, and look, we all get uncomfortable at those parties, but I'm holding you accountable. I, I, I get it.

But I'm also making, I get it, like we get nervous, it's, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're adrenaline, I get bit happy, like when I see a lot of comedians, I get bit happy. I also hid from a lot of people that I like. Yeah, I get to see people over in the other corner and I'm like, oh, I don't wanna go over there,

they'll make me nervous. So I was- Oh yes, I see people, like, I think a lot of that night was spent like, should I just say hi to Owen Wilson? I don't know him. And that was a good part of it. But it's good to be here now.

So what has been going on? I mean, did I see you at the Golden Globes? Did they cut to you like several times for some reason? Jim Gaffigan invited me last minute. So I was at a great table. Again, very nervous. We ended up sitting at the Ted Lazo table. I didn't really know anyone there except Jon Hamm,

of course, because you know he's been around. He's a comedy guy. What was Gaffigan up for, best stand up? He was delivering or presenting best stand-up. Oh, who won that? You know, I forget. Yeah. I forget.

Why wouldn't you? Ricky Gervais. Oh, right. Yeah, Ricky Gervais. Wow, okay. So, can I say something about Ricky Gervais real quick? I'll talk shit about comics. Well, I'll make it quick.

It's not just Ricky Gervais. It's all these guys that go, you know, Ricky Gervais, if you put any pushback on him, if you don't agree with what he says, and this is a lot of guys, they go, and I know we've talked about this before, they go, if you don't like what I say, then just don't acknowledge it.

Yeah. But that's what comedians do. I almost want to trick someone like Ricky Gervais and go, hey, Ricky, because I don't believe he does this, but I could trick him. I really believe I could trick him. Hey, I know detectives don't use the word trick, but it's sort of what they do. You go to someone like that, you go, and you know the answer and you know they're going to get defensive. You're just going to apply their answer to say, please give everyone else that, that, that do what you, here's what it is. If you go, Ricky, I know you don't believe in God,

but why can't you let other people believe in God? He'd go, I do, it's just the way I feel. I don't, you know, if other people wanna go believe in God. Well, it's the same way with people that argue with what you say. Yeah, maybe there's a small slice, depending on what you're doing, but when it's just, they don't agree with what you say,

they wanna argue it, but the majority of them don't think you should be stopped from doing it. People are allowed to argue with what you say. they want to argue it, but the majority of them don't think you should be stopped from doing it. People are allowed to argue with what you say. You're not just saying this stuff for the people that agree with you, are you? So it always is funny that comedians are, and I'm a comedian, we're cancel culture if you want to look at it, this is stupid, that's stupid, this is stupid. But the minute someone thinks what we do is and they go online to react, I think comedians would be so much better off if they said it cleaner.

It might make them look stupid, but it's cleaner than going, you can't say anything or just say this. Go, you know what? I liked it when we were the only ones that could say something and other people didn't have the chance to react. Yeah, now because of social media, they react. I don't agree with the outcry all the time, a lot of time, but people have a right to do what we do on different platforms.

Does that make sense? Sure, of course. Well, yeah, I mean, it's the idea of consequences, but they've always been there. They're just not as immediate and from thousands of people. But there's always been, you know, it's not like you're going to be punished or anything necessarily, but people have a right to a different view and people have a right to to say like you're terrible

And they have a right to say you're wrong, but you know They don't have a right to say you can't say that necessarily most of the time they don't yeah But no, but that's the implication. Yeah, is that corporate interest will respond to grassroots actions and then deny people employment Because it's too hot, right? But that doesn't really happen. But the thing is, is like when somebody has a reasonable reaction that is contrary to what I believe, a lot of times I'll be like, I'll think about it. I'll think about it. I understand your point and I'll think about it.

And then I mostly go like, nah, you're wrong. And then, no. Well, I'll tell you, I have that happen. I've had people say something, I don't agree. But the thing is, I give it a listen, because sometimes I do agree and change willingly. Yeah, right, that's right. I think the people that put up the biggest fight of like,

you know, you can't say anything anymore, I think they're making more compromises than anyone. And I think that's why they're getting angry, because some of the verbiage that they've taken out of their act they haven't done it willingly they've done it because I can't say that word anymore the bigger problem is is that it becomes their whole act it's now a hook well it's kind of hacky I hope it on your canceled it's a it's a it's like a hack

a line no is that your is that your tagline I'm in trouble yes they branded themselves sort of a warrior. But anyway, I talk about that enough, but anyway. Do you talk about it a lot? I do. I'm obsessed with it because I just, it just cracks me up that I see so many comedians that are, you know, I wish they'd all go out one night and perform like it's 1985. Yeah. Go out one night. Do it, you know, there's an expression you get out of your own way. Everyone knows that, can you get out of your own way? Well, I think that is half to say, can you say, oh my God, I was wrong.

Go out and perform like it's 1985, and then tell me if you think you can't say anything anymore. Remember those rules? Sure, but I think, like back in the day, you know, I was tagged a blue comic, right? So like, you know, if you worked blue, you had your own issues with getting work, you know, I was tagged a blue comic, right? So like, you know, if you worked blue, you had your own issues with getting work, you know? And then, you know, a lot of us who were bluer than others,

it was sort of like, well, I'm not gonna change it, I can't change it. It's like, how am I gonna take that? It's half my act or whatever. But now, like, it seems to me that people can find their own audience. But the bigger problem is, is that there are people that support an ideology of, you know, fuck woke, fuck liberals, and they've decided that they

are comedy aficionados. So there's a tribal element to it that has decided what comedy should be, and it's not great. And what happens is more sensitive or thoughtful acts get sort of plowed under this tsunami of like, you know, what the fuck is that? That's woke bullshit. And then you get these fairly, a lot of brilliant people doing great comedy

who don't have the wherewithal to push back against this wall of ideology. And that's what bugs me. And I try to push back and I do, against this wall of ideology. And that's what bugs me. And I try to push back and I do, but then all of a sudden it goes from pushing back on ideology to like, why are you shitting on so-and-so? No, no, I'm not. It's just the ideas, you know?

Right, right. And you know, I never liked to really, I don't mention names a lot because you know what? Even some comedians, by the way, whenever anybody goes after a comedian, it's usually not because they had a joke about the mall they didn't like names a lot because you know what even some comedians by the way whenever anybody goes after a comedian It's usually not because they had a joke about the mall. They didn't like or a dog Most of the time overwhelmingly come on we can still disagree and have an honest debate not right But the people that disagree with me um you know I'd like to see one comedian when they go

Oh, you know they're not they're not arguing because you had a bad joke It's usually a social issue that you're talking. They've associated you with a point of view. Yeah, they have a social issue you disagree with. Yeah, that's the problem. So people are allowed to combat that, even if they're wrong. And by the way, I say this every time,

thank you could not have great comedians if they did not ignore some of the pushback. But not all of the pushback. If you listen to all the pushback once in a while, you'll go, oh, okay. You know, really when we talk about what it takes to be a good comedian, at least I think, we're talking about being a human being

and evolving as you're over... Yeah, but there's a lot of comedians, a lot of our animals, they're monsters, and they always have been, and it's okay. But I think the bigger problem is that, you know, now what's equated with success is, you know, clicks, selling out arenas, you know, the numbers, you know, this momentum,

that winning, and to me, that's never been about really what great comedy is about. Like, for example, you're doing some of your best work, you do it the way you wanna do it, you have people that enjoy you But is there a part of your head that says I can take this new show to an arena No, it's not my goal to take it to arena But but I also and I feel the need to say this I also think there's great comedy happening right now of course

Oh, it's the same probably the same if not more than there was even 30 years ago. When we started, yeah. Sure. Yeah, yeah. You just have to have the time to sift through it. We've talked about this before. Right. Have we? Yeah, we've talked about that when you're younger, there was a lot of crappy music when

we were younger, but we're remembering the good stuff. And when you're younger, you have time to sift through it. So when you're older, you go, oh, there's no good music anymore because you don't have time to sift through all the bullshit. When you were 17 or 18 or 19, I think that's true. You had more time. Like same thing with TikTok when it came along during the pandemic. Look, I did not love TikTok because I had to, oh, I guess I got to do TikTok. Now I always tell my friends, if you don't like it, don't do it. You're not going to have success. I was jealous of the formula. I don't like the crowd work, but guess what? Perspective is a fucking important thing. And I don't like the crowd work on

TikTok. But if that's the bad part of it, the standup part of TikTok, look, we had song parody guys, we had ventriloquists, and we had magicians. And right alongside of that, there was brilliant comedy being done. And the same thing is now, alongside some of the bad crowd work guys, there are brilliant young comedians. It's just very easy to go unseen. When? In general. You know, there's so much. Yeah, but I think, but you know what? People probably felt that way in the 90s and 80s.

You know, I don't wanna drift into sounding like an old guy, but yeah, I know what you're saying. Yeah. You know, a lot of this, you know what's great is as you get older, is like it really shouldn't matter to you. Like it's very hard to sort of look at the world as it is now and then look at what we come from

and then try to be intelligently critical. And then he started to realize like this is old man stuff. You know, I'm just. Well, I stay away from it like the plague. I don't wanna slip into that and I don't believe it. I don't do it. I'm not trying to ingratiate myself to youth. I'm already mad at them for what they're not gonna accept.

I've seen patterns. I've been on the planet a long time. There's gonna be something that this, what they're fighting for now, this group of people, 20 years from now, something new or 10 years is going to come along and they're going to go, ah, that's right there. So I'm not trying to ingratiate them. I just don't want to get into that, uh, you know, that old, that people say when they get older. I think I'm, I like being doing comedy now. I love Twitter, wasn't it for me? I'm not a wordsmith. You know, I know you can post videos on Twitter too,

but TikTok, Instagram, when that came along, I was like, oh, I'm jealous of it. Like I would see funny things on there and creative things, heartwarming things, kind things. And during the pandemic, I was like, oh, I wanna do this. I wanna do this. I did a lot of the Instagram lives. You did Instagram? Lives during the pandemic, I was like, oh, I wanna do this. I wanna do this. I did a lot of the Instagram lives.

You did Instagram lives? Lives during the COVID, yeah. Like, I was almost running a morning show. I'd get up and I'd get on for like an hour and a half. Oh, you did? Oh, yeah. I had a pretty good crew of people that were like, they were just all at home and sad and they really got to know me.

But then some of them thought they knew me too well. And then it gets a little weird. You know, I thought the pandemic, look, it's not, it wasn't worth having it, but made me, in a weird way, it strengthened my standup for this reason. You know how, like, we're having more of a serious conversation now, you know, we're laughing too, but when you do a podcast,

you know, and it's very, very, very silly, we don't need an audience. Look, audiences are the best thing about comedy, but there can be an exception. There can be the negative part, too. And when we're doing podcasts with our friends and we're laughing, we don't go, how do we know it's funny?

There's no audience. We know internally sometimes. So I performed stand-up. I liked when they weren't even putting the... Remember when they started putting some people on the... On the Zoom? On the Zoom so you could hear them laugh? I didn't need it. I was performing stand up and having a ball doing it using my, could say, podcast sensibility. And I would get done and I remember

once told my sister-in-law, I go, man, I just had a really good show. I did a 45 minute show. She goes, good question. She goes, how do you know? I go, well, I'm not trying to trick anybody. I know when the words flow out of my mouth, right? I when I'm trying to reference or making a comparison and it comes to me. So I thought it came out of, I came out of the pandemic, maybe a little better standup from doing so many shows with no audience and just trusting my instinct. I did zero. You didn't do any? Nope. Didn't do any parking lot shows, didn't do any zoom shows. I didn't do any parking lot shows. I was relieved. Like, I was sort of like, man, maybe I'm all better.

You know, maybe I... Ha ha ha ha ha ha, thank, thank, I don't want to say thank God anymore. Do you ever have that thing, or just whatever, thank the universe that I came out. It's still awkward. There's still shows where if I don't feel the crowd likes me as much as I think I won't talk about that part of my life. My brother said to like, my brother said to me, he goes, wow. And I knew why he said that. It's like, it's funny.

Like I came, my parents were open-minded and most of my friends were open-minded, but I still kept it inside for so long that it's so personal. And I think, hey, if they're not like in this joke about, you know, how to have a, you know, how people, their houses are too bright or, you know, whatever, they're not gonna wanna hear that I'm, you know, that I'm gay. So if I'm not doing well, I won't talk about it. But my life is good. I was in a relationship for a little while.

Oh, oh, yeah. Well, that broke up after like 12 years. And then I was in another relationship for five. And then that was really ended, we're still very, very, very close. But my life is good. I'm enjoying standup and I'm just enjoying being out there. There's some, out of the pandemic,

I was hoping this happened and I think it might've, maybe some shitty clubs ended up closing. Now that doesn't mean a great club's gonna take its place, but it's the opportunity for a shitty club that had a stronghold on a market. So there's some really new com, good comedy clubs. So where are you working usually? Well,

You just go all the clubs? I'll go to the, you know, when I'm not- Denver, Minneapolis. Opening for acts, like, you know, whether I travel with Gaffigan or Sarah or, you know, over the years to Tosh or, you know, that is, let me be picky when it comes to the clubs I wanna work. Yeah.

So you go to the clubs that you really like, you know, which ones comedy on state is like just Madison. Yes Yeah, the the Vermont Comedy Club. That's good Ceilings are a little high a Vermont Comedy Club. They are but you know what? It's still so they love comedy Yeah, cuz they're up there. They don't get much and they love it and the owners love comedy guys. Yeah, it was a married couple, right? Yes There are they love comedy and and the way about Denver you like Denver Comedy works. I didn't draw enough people they to to to enjoy that experience So what would happen is I'd have the audience I drew but then they fill it with and and stoned people with what I wish it was stoned people, you know?

But Denver, you know, it's a well-run club. Minneapolis. Minneapolis, Acme, yeah, all those places to go to. It's a shabby sheet club, but probably the best crowds on the planet. I just got back from the Comedy Addict in... Sure, I used to do that every year. I didn't go this last year, I don't know why.

So I'm having a good time, and I'm out there doing stand-up and loving it. I didn't go out this last year. I don't know why so I'm having a good time And I'm out there doing stand-up and loving it. I'm not seeing anybody right now, but I'm I'm enjoying life. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I'm enjoying life and being on stage and being your folks my true self. Oh My dad died when I was very young, but that's it. My mom just died about eight months ago. Oh, geez. Yeah Yeah, you know, it's oh she was 80, but she had a lot of time. Her family lives forever. She got cancer, fought it, and then it got the best of her. That was, that was, um.

Hard, right? That was, that was, yeah, that was, she did it in hospice with all of us there, with her dogs in bed with her, but man, that just, that's heavy. Yeah. It really just did. My parents are winding down a bit. Really? Yeah. How old are you?

I wasn't ready to have my, I'm 32 and I'm gonna be 33 in May. That's tremendous. See, I do a little young for that, have that happen. Yeah, very young. Oh, age. I don't feel it, except when I have to say it. I feel good.

I feel, I might feel better than I've ever felt. I only feel, I only see it, I only know it when I see pictures of myself. Do you know what I mean? Like when I look in the mirror, I'm like, oh, you're good. You look good. You look as good as ever. Then I see a picture of myself.

I'm like, I'm a weird old Jewish man. I just. Yeah, I, I think it was like two weeks ago. I left the house. I felt great. Yeah. And then I said, I saw it was like two weeks ago, I left the house, I felt great. And then I said, I saw myself in a mirror. I went to now search for another mirror to get my confidence back.

I'm like, wait, this mirror over here, the mirror in my house is the best mirror in the world. Whatever it is, it's the light. You have a relationship with it. I didn't purposely make it a good mirror. But it's your mirror. And then I'd rather have a shitty mirror at home, because that way when I, or it's not the mirror usually,

it's probably the lighting in that room that you're looking at yourself in the mirror. It could be how you're feeling that day. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I'm, I'm, I'm. Healthy, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel great.

Isn't that good? You look good. Thank you. So now, how, like I watched the trailer for the show, it's a big show. Yeah, I mean, you've got like an orchestra, I believe. Well, you know, I like, probably like a lot of comedians. I know Mitch Hedberg had jokes about this.

I really just love stand-up. I did 10-year-old Tom, you know, I voiced the principal on that show, and they let me ad lib a lot. That was a great experience, but that's not the norm. You have to follow lines. I don't do great with that. Yeah. Unless they're, Hey, if they're bringing me in, they go, we love

Todd Glass, we want to see him. Yeah. Okay. Then I will audition, but I don't want my manager submitting me for anything. Yeah. But if they call him, we'd like to see him. We understand then that's great. But, um, but I love doing the standup and I thought, well, why not turn your

standup in the, like treat that like the way, you know, just make that into something. That's what you love. That's what you wanna do. And I had been touring, you know, after my Netflix special, I had a band in there. And then when it was over- How big a band? I had a four or five piece band in there.

And then after that, I started to do it on the road a little. And then I had the band bits. You tour with the band. I tour with one person. I had to. I to I go Todd you either need to stop doing the show at least bring I bring a guy named cam Kavinsky who has a comedic background Yeah, and he's in the band as the keyboard player But he's also there more for his comedic story his comedic ability and then I'll get a local drummer

But for this show that I want to do I want to do like a New York run just a bit But I want to you know, I have an ice cream truck after the show outside The saxophone player plays in the street While they're waiting in line like I take advantage and it's not just a line I get very passionate when I talk about it of every single Second that I can entertain the crowd and it's not just line. If they hear the saxophone player from a block and a half away, that means I started entertaining them a block and a half away.

And if they're in bed- They may not know it, but they're being entertained. Aimed by me. And at the end of the show, when the ice cream truck pulls up and they take also cookies and hot chocolate home, the packet in the cup, and they can, I'm still entertaining them at the house. And they can go on my website and get a playlist

that I say, hey, you're home with the hot chocolate. So I take advantage of every single second. How far do you go with this idea? Like, when the next day when they shit, are you like, that's my cookie? I should, that's still my cookie. That's my cookie in there. Hey, are you shitting out my cookie?

But the guts of the show is a standup show. That's why this year I toured without the band because I want that element of this show to be tight. Am I making it up in my head, but it isn't on the video, isn't it a big band? Yes, the band, well, yes, it is. I feel like I'll tell you what I do. So a lot of the bits are comedian bits.

So I'll have like a saxophone, a trumpet, drums, keyboard, and Maybe yeah, that's it. Saxophone, trumpet, drums, and keyboard. Because the vibe of it reminded me of, you know when you watch those weird specials that aren't real specials That are shot, you know with the old guys like Jerry Lewis or somebody in Vegas Yes And there's just a full fucking orchestra up there for no reason other than you know for him You know what I mean occasionally they kick in yeah, they all had him before and from seeing comedy from that era I like that style. I don't have an old style in my act But I do have I do like the big bed because you know what?

When they're playing like when the crowds being seated in some venues That's an hour like the night in my show has begun in a big way. So you seat people. I seat people. Remember, did you ever have that when you started? Yes. You'd have to seat people and do stand-up. I was a doorman at the Comedy Store.

Oh, so you know that world. Yeah. But the bands, I don't send the whole band out, but I got a keyboard and drums. The minute the doors open up, they're swinging out there, instrumental. Yeah. And then there's the band bits.

It's very hard to explain, which someone said that's a good thing if it's easy to explain that means a version of it's been done So there is a four and a half minute that highlight really you saw it's on my website Todd glass the event of a lifetime, so you know I decided about two years ago I want to do a run in New York and the big part of the budget is I feel like I have to explain this is Presenting it with the with the robust budget. You know, you can't spend 10,000, you think, oh, I'll spend 20. No, it needs to be, maybe not the funding of Hamilton,

but when a play opens up in New York. They have to put some, it's like 40, $50,000. So you see, you involve a set designer and everything? You know what, that's funny you ask that. I told my manager, I go, I don't need someone to director this show. I've been touring with this show for a long time. It is a well oiled machine.

I go out on stage now with a different attitude than I had years ago. I'll get back to what you just said. It used to be if 10 is the best audience in the world, seven isn't bad. Seven, they've done a lot right. They're worth fighting for. And if I'm tight, I can win them over.

I'm not trying to win a two out of 10 over. I'm not trying to win that low over. They don't like me, they're not gonna. But I go out on stage every night. I just got back from Philadelphia and did some shows presented by Next In Line. And every night I go on stage, I have something to prove. I'm tight as fuck right now.

And the band and everything about it. But you leave room for riffing, right? Yes, I do. I do. In my tightness, I do leave room for riffing. And I enjoy doing that sometimes. But the show's got pieces. Yes, it has a lot of elements. And it's the band, and it's what happens before the show

and after the show. So now we started something on Seed sparks, a crowd source to go. So by the way, some of the high end items are like naming the band after you. Right. You know, okay. Name the band after you. Hey, if you're, you know, or for a night for the night, but it's pretty high. That's a high ticket price, but there's lower ones too, but the high one is

named the band after you and then or business. I go, I can't name a business. I'm not calling them the Joey's Pizza Band. My friend goes, if they gave you 10,000, would you? I go, yeah, I can make it fun. How about I have a Joey's Pizza Band, everybody? And I go, the band knows their name and all 10 of them. We're the Joey's Pizza Band.

But that's interesting because in a small market, that's like paying for advertising. I mean, that's the way old television works. That's why my friend goes, let people name their business. Someone might go, hell, we'll name our business. We'll also get some. So in short, there's not that much to talk about that, except it's on Seed and Spark, which is a really cool crowd source for like indie films, creative things.

But, yeah, I've... All I do, Mark, is lay in bed and dream about this show in New York City. It's already something, and I know if we bring in the proper budget, we can make... turn the show into something. Like, what venues are you thinking? Well, I'd like to do it in a venue, no food, but drinks. Uh-huh. Tables? The guy who directed my special, he said something, I go, he gets it.

And he did. He goes, I know what you're talking about. Not tablecloths on the tables, tablecloths to the ground. Now, that's only one thing, but if he got that, he got everything. And he did. Yes. Where do you explain that? Like long tablecloths?

Well, like, yeah, because if you watch old, like really, high-end jazz clubs, the tablecloths go a little further down to the ground. It's for some reason, it's sort of a sign of like, and I would like to do it in a place that serves drinks. Like a dinner club, what are you thinking? I could turn any club in New York into it, but you know. What are you thinking, a theater? Well, I don't want to do a theater

because I want tables. I really want tables. Like one of those city winery joints? Well, I don't know. Think of like a high end jazz club in New York City. Okay. You know, one of those places where Jazz at Lincoln Center.

You might not know the band. Disney's Cafe. No, they have that. I don't, oh, I thought you were just saying. No. I don't know any of these places. That's the kind of place it is. They got the jazz club at Lincoln Center.

They have Jazz at Lincoln Center. They used a big hall Rose Hall I think yes, but then they have a club a jazz club upstairs How many is it hold? Roughly two hundred five to three hundred. That's what I want. Yeah, that's what I want and You could do it there. You know what? You know what? I told my manager We got to go to a place that's excited to have me. Because when they're excited to have you, they'll make the little changes. I like people to be comfortably packed, comfortably packed.

And I, you know, this is not the only reason I wanna do it at a place where there's tables and drinks. No food, just drinks. It's because it's more comfortable to watch a show. If you have to go to the bathroom, you can go to the bathroom. Excuse me, pardon me, excuse me, pardon me. It seems close to a variety show. They only have to go to the bathroom, you can go to the bathroom. Excuse me, pardon me, excuse me, pardon me. It seems close to a variety show. You're the only act. Yeah, have you considered...

It's hard. The reason I try not to explain it, because I've learned over the years, no matter how good I think I can explain it, they'll get it better when they watch the highlight reel, Todd Glass, The Event of a Lifetime. That's on my website. But it is a huge chunk of it is stand-up. I like to be really clear with that. If you're craving stand-up, I know what it's like to crave stand-up. Before I did it for a short period,

I wouldn't have to see it. It's gonna give you what you want. Then there's a lot of band bits. Then it's like a little bit of stand-up. See, I'd like to see you have, like, I'd like to see you do a duet. What do you mean? Do a little singing.

I close. I do do a little singing. But you know what, because I watch sometimes on clips on Instagram, I watched Sammy Davis Jr. and Tom Jones. Like, just, and there's that, you know, like when Dean Martin on his show would just have Jackie Gleason come out. Yeah. And they'd sing a little song. Well, I do, I do some singing in the show, but it's mostly standup, but I do singing.

You know what I always say? I have a joke about how the old crooners, it didn't matter if their joke got a laugh, I set this up early, because if they didn't get a laugh, they just went, they were like, buh-buh-buh-buh-buh punchline, these little town blues, or the band would come in, buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh. So I do that like five or maybe sometimes

if I'm in a silly mood, 10 times, just after the most joke that should not have music after, right afterwards. Whether I'm right, or whether I'm wrong yeah it's great and and it's just it's very powerful like performing without the band like the guy that opens up the show the keyboard guy yeah like the lights go out he doesn't just dilly-dally with a song two-minute song he shreds it he sings it where the people are like what the fuck just happened you know know, he can fucking sing. And the band, and then it's boom, blackout.

And then it's like, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Todd Glass. And then I come out. Follow Spot? Yeah, Follow Spot. I come from the back of the room. Come from the back of the room. And just, you know, I want to, you know,

I know what, like, I even tell sometimes when we're backstage, I'll tell the band, hit your trumpet. Because I know what it's like when I go to see a musician and I hear something backstage, oh, they're rehearsing. You heard someone blowing up. I go, just do that. Do it on purpose.

Yeah. And then the people, oh, you hear it. They hear it. So I just try to make it a, just a real experience that they're like, just exhausted after the show and then they get outside. It's like the band doesn't stop. The, when the whole band goes outside right after the show, they play for about 10 minutes out there

while people are hitting the ice cream truck or getting hot chocolate to go. What if it's cold? Then we'll do hot, then we'll do inside. Like where the- Inside hot chocolate? Or good, you know, there's ice cream companies that will come and then they'll just get out inside.

So this is all one big, moving towards one big production of run in New York City. Yeah, and it's all I wanna do in my life. I want this to happen so bad. There's gotta be, and by the way, if someone pays for the whole thing, I've been doing this 45 years. Maybe there's someone listening,

you pay for the whole thing, and then you- Joe's Pizza. Then there can be a little bit of- You'll name the whole show. Then there can be a little money. Name the whole show after that. Oh yeah, I'll name the band. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My goal real quick is- No, but you can name the show. Like Adidas presents Todd Glass. Done. Done. I don't even go, wow, that's a little selling out. Real quick, and I don't even know if this is important, Marc. The goal is, this is why maybe some big benefactor who's proactive

and trying to find something to get involved with is, I don't want to ask my comedian friends for money I don't want to go. Hey, would you present me? But once we have the funding I am gonna approach some of them and go can I use your name? So, you know how normally it's one person blah blah blah presents. Yeah, Jerry Seinfeld presents. Yeah, Colin Quinn I want to try to get five Comedians that I would like their audience You know what?

I mean, that's what I'm looking for, that I would be jealous of their audience and then have like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, on the marquee, present Ty Gless. Yeah, but the problem with that is people look at the marquee and go, are they gonna be there? No, no, no, it's, we thought, believe me, we thought about that and we changed it even in our mock-up.

They'll know. And if you pay for the whole thing, your name can go up there with them. Yeah. Even if you're, you know. Now let me just, let's- Am I explaining this right? Sure. It's a big show with music and variety and ice cream and-

And it's all I wanna do. I wanna do this till I die. I want this show to work. So you wanna tour with the show. I wanna tour with the show, do residency with the show. It's something to see. I know that sounds a little, maybe too complicated. Now why, like, cause I'm thinking like, you know,

how do you like film it? How do you tour? Why not, why not have guests? Because I don't want to. I love doing, one of the best things about doing standup is that it's all you. And I like having the band bits, but I don't want guests. I don't want to rely on guests.

I don't want to book guests. I just want to, I have a standup act. It's good. I've been doing it a long time. I still love it I'm at the top of my game and I have the band with me and they're tight and they know what I do I don't want to have guests because I don't want to rely on guests. I'm this show is good enough I don't need you're not hosting you're hosting yourself, right? Yeah, yes me, you know, and maybe in New York I would have you know, if there's some act like, you know, once, I might have an, I...

But I'm thinking maybe like, why not musical guest? I just don't. Because it can't be as tight. You know, it can't be as tight. Every night there's something different. You know, my friend said to me, and I won't mention names, he goes, you know the problem when you have an act open up for you? He goes, sometimes I like to use a newer act, because someone that's big might go out and dilly

dally the whole show. My friend said, Todd, I'm sitting there, the opening show, the blackout Todd. It's so fucking tight. And then if an opening act comes out, a more high profile opening act that you're like, oh cool. To help me put people in and they're not tight. It's like, it puts a little, it's not so, so unless

it's going to be like, you know, like a guy like Jim Gaffigan, like he's gonna go out even on, and he's gonna be tight. But you got, so, I might use a newer act. I might have an opening act every night in New York, but have it be like a much, much, much younger comic that's gonna go out and do the best of every night. Right, how long does the show run?

An hour and a half. That's good. It's an hour and a half. And what do I need, if I have the right budget behind it, I don't need opening acts. All those people are presenting me. I'm sure people are going to go, well, if they're all presenting him, you know,

then there might be something here. Sure. I have my wish list. Yeah. You'll be getting a call. Get my name on that marquee. Mark Maron's band. Mark Maron's band.

Oh, you know what? I figure like a guy like, you know, I'm gonna do Burt Kreischer's podcast. I figure a guy like that, he's so emotional and you know, maybe his fans can start up a crowd source called the Burt Kreischer band every night. Yeah, why not? Maybe your fan, the Mark Maron band every single night.

That's the price you pay, but it's worth it. Burt got mad at me. We had a thing. You know that? I didn't. Oh, it's okay. I didn't, it's okay now. I don't mean to bring it down.

Well yeah, I said something on a TikTok and it was vague. I was gonna address this to you about, when you talk in general about comedy, I was making general comment about a specific comic and it wasn't Burt. And somebody, troublemaker, made it about Burt and then he got upset and hurt his feelings and he, made it about Burt. And then, you know, and he got upset and hurt his feelings and he talked about it on a podcast.

Don't you make fun of my Burt. Yeah, and he kind of blew me up on this podcast and I just had to call him and I'm like, dude, it wasn't about you. And I had no, I would have no intention. But you made good of it? Yeah, but like it's still out there and I don't think it's corrected,

but what are you gonna do? Yeah. You know, once that's out there but what are you gonna do? Yeah. You know, once that's out there, what are you gonna do? But I did make it right with him. Just like you and I did. Good. Well, that was very little.

Yeah. You know what's funny with me and you? Because I know you're Mark Maron. You've left your, you know, you have, I hear, oh, by the way, silly, what you, oh, the fate, the look you just gave me was like, what are you, like I thought it was safe to go. You've left the trail of- Oh no, you do whatever you want. Yeah, but you've left the trail of your being Mark Maron can do whatever you want. Yeah, but you left a trail of your being Mark Merritt.

But me and you really have never had anything. We never had an issue. That night was that, hey, look, you could have had what happened at Sarah Silverman's party with anybody. That was very small. Well, that's why it hurt my feet. That's why it hurt me.

Cause I don't think I always know how I come off. And I don't think I always know, you know, like with this thing with Burt, which was like, it was just like a nightmare in the sense that sort of like, I have no ill intent. You know, I was being broadly critical. I was really talking about Chappelle was the dig. And you know, because he's big enough to absorb it, maybe.

But that's the fucking thing about this is that you can't you can't talk, you know, even if someone's a big cultural icon, if he's one of us, you're gonna have to deal with them at some point. Even if someone's a big cultural icon, if he's one of us, you're gonna have to deal with them at some point. That's why sometimes I, cause there's a lot of comedians, again, that I don't agree with them socially. Usually it's socially, I'm not, you know,

or if they have a bad, bad, bad, bad habit, like fake laughing during their jokes or whatever. But usually, even comedians that I don't agree with them socially, I like them. Sure, exactly. And by the way, I'm not talking about Burt. Cause you know, Burt really never does the, you can't say anything anymore, he never does the,

no, no, no, he's a fun guy. He doesn't entertain. He is a fun guy. But what I'm talking about is comedians over the years, even if I don't agree with them socially, I like comedians, they gave me a life. I could, you know, it's like, when I met comedians, I thought, oh my God, like, I, this, these

are my people. Yeah. I was, I knew it at 16 years old. That's why on the show, the keyboard guy goes, listen, when me and Todd first met, he goes, he felt the same way about when I met musicians about comedians. Yeah. And we bonded over that. Yeah.

We had a life. And this song is to all the comedians that Todd's ever met. We opened the show with, for once in my life, I have someone who needs me. And he shreds it to all the comedians that I've met over the years. And it's a true sort of thank you to them, because they did give me a life.

So I want to get along with comedians. I don't want to go to a party and see comedians that, you know, don't like you. That I said something or they don't like me, but overwhelming, I don't have that problem. Yeah, I do too. That's why I've been doing the show, it all started with comedians, but it did start with me, you know,

trying to, you know, men some. Right. Men some pass. Well, I got my eye and you don't try any shit. With you? Anybody. I'm doing all right. I try not to, but sometimes I get a little cranky

because I don't understand what's going on Are you happy? I'm happy enough. Are you seeing anybody? Yeah, you are. Yep. Okay. Yeah cats I have three cats still you know, I'm about to go out on the road and Yeah, I got this new hour and with me I write with a week before I go out. I'm like, I don't have it I'm doing like hour and a half shows. It's in there somewhere. But it's like, you know, doing the road.

Like I'm not a tour bus guy. I'm a drive the rental car with the opener for hours. That's so funny. I love the tour bus. I can't get enough of the tour bus. Yeah, who do you go on tour buses with? Well, granted we're not on it with 20 band members. That's a little harder.

But I'm going on a tour with Andy Fresco, by the way. I give him a shout out. Andy who? Andy Fresco is a pretty big musician and I'm not on it with 20 band members. That's a little harder, but I'm going on a tour with Andy Fresco, by the way, I give him a shout out. Andy who? Andy Fresco is a pretty big musician and I'm going on tour with him. It's his podcast. So we are going, well, I don't know when this drops, but anyway, um, the, the, I've gone on the tour bus with, uh, well, the first tour bus I ever went on ever was with Mike Burbigli years ago.

That was like four days, but Gaffigan, uh, I've been on a tour with Sarah, Tosh, and there's three or four of us on the tour bus, so we have our own areas. Someone can be in the back of the bus, can someone in their bunk, somebody can be. So I just love it. It's like if I get in the bed at night, now if you can't sleep on a tour bus, I get it,

then it's not gonna work for you. I totally understand that. But to me it's like, when you go into bed, it's like if you go to your hotel and you go to bed and the hotel starts up and drives eight hours and you're at the next venue, it's no downtime. Even a private plane, which believe me, I'm lucky I get to do that sometimes,

that's still, you gotta get up in the morning, go to the airport, it's 20 times easier. But the tour bus, especially when you're doing the style. You don't go to hotels? We do, that's why when you do the tour bus right, when you're doing the style. You don't go to hotels? We do. That's why when you do the tour bus right, you know, we'll get up and Gaffigan likes to stay at night, which I do too.

I like to stay and go out to dinner. I like to enjoy the night. But the way he does his tours, then we get up at 11, get on the tour bus. But when you know you're getting up at 11 to go on a tour bus, you can go back to bed if you want. And then when you get to the next venue, maybe four hours later, five hours later, we do very short stints. And then we're checking a hotel there.

So you get off the bus and get into the hotel. It's just a relaxing life to me. I would love to do a tour bus. I've never done a tour with my own bus. Yeah, me neither. I don't even think about it. And you don't even think about it. Nothing attractive about it to you?

It just seems like a bit much. Like I go, I rent a car, and I drive it. Right. You know, usually with the opener, drive three, four hours sometimes, and then, you know, do the same thing, but it's not a tour bus, it's just a car, and I can't sleep because I'm driving.

Well, I mean, I guess it's whatever, if you like that, then I would understand that. I don't know if I like it, but like, it doesn't seem cost effective for me to get a tour bus to do five to 800 seaters. It probably costs some money, right? Right, it does.

They do cost you. I think that to really get the nicest one you're talking about with the driver, because he has to get a hotel, because he sleeps during the day. Yeah. He sleeps during the day. But I think it's like, I mean, you can get one for 1,800,

but I think about 3,500 is the cost of a tour bus. A day. A day. Yeah. That's not terrible. No, I did it with Tosh. We had two tour buses. He was on with his wife and one of the writers

from the show and his tour manager, and then I was in the back with just the three comedians. And we had, from day one, we did 30 days straight. We only had one night off without a show. And I loved every single second. I guess that's also too, if you do, I go out, I do three, four dates, come back a few days, go out, do two, three, four dates.

And then sometimes I just take a week or two off. I don't like to do the every night thing. And I don't know that do the like every night thing. And I don't know that, you know, my audience is that broad. Like, you know, I can't, I can't, like I'll do 25, 30 dates spread out over a few months, but some guys do 50 dates. I'm like, I don't know if I could do 50 dates. I could on a tour bus, but yeah, I do what you do.

I just don't know if I could draw to do 50 dates. Well, that's the difference. Some people don't need a tour bus. They don't, you know, they're not trying to get to the next venue. I did it, I'm doing this joke that I came up with the don't need a tour bus. They don't, you know, they're not trying to get to the next venue. I did it, I'm doing this joke that I came up with the other night where it's sort of like, look, you know, I could do an arena, one arena,

you know, probably in the center of the country, then I'd have to bus people in from all over. You do it, you do the opposite. Yeah, well, I don't have a tour bus, but I'm getting everybody else. I do one arena, and they're gonna be in the parking lot of Walmart and Pittsburgh, they're loading up. You know, they're...

Oh, it's too funny. Oh. Would that be the dream for you, to take this show with your guys on a tour bus and do a 20, 25 dates? Yeah, I would love every second of it. You know, someone told Tosh, oh, he did 60 days straight. And they go, oh, you're not gonna like it.

And I go, Daniel, I think you are. He goes, so do I. At the end of the tour, I wasn't with him on that tour. He goes, yeah, I loved it. Everything is so organized and so. Got a road manager. You got a road manager, the best road manager. You got a merch guy.

You got everything. You got everything. It's fun for me. How's Tosh doing? Good. Yeah, Got everything. It's fun for me. How's Tosh doing? Good. Yeah. Yeah.

I think he's enjoying life. I haven't seen or heard from him in a long time. He just started a new, I guess it's a podcast, but like a video podcast, but you know, but it's like, it's a show. You know, these days you call it a podcast, he's got a show. Yeah. And it's him. It's the old Tosh that people like, but it's also another side of Tosh that maybe no one's

seen. The mix together but it's also another side of Tosh that maybe no one's seen the mix together It's it's it's it's great. Do you talk about like your your life on in the show? I Do yeah, I do talk about my life and matter of fact somebody asked me a good question You know when I came out so someone said don't worry It won't be your identity because it's not who you won't make it your identity, right? But it is a part of my life. Yeah. And I talk, my brother goes, I think it was my brother, but it was a good question. He goes, when do you think you're just

going to talk about being gay casually? Not like, well, here's the process I came out of. Right, right, right. Instead of just like, hey, well, you know, my boyfriend, we did this. And I go, that's a good question. So now, to bridge that gap to that happening, I talk about that. I go, you know, my brother asked me, when are you go? I go, that's a good question. So now to bridge that gap to that happening, I talk about that.

I go, you know, my brother asked me, when are you going? I go, it's hard. You know, it takes, that's tough. You can just say partner too and make it in and then ease into it. Yeah, I could say partner or a part. I used to have a joke about partner and crime. What's your crime? We disobey God, the fake God.

But now I'm trying to get to the point, but I do talk about it and I'm glad that I do. Because I'm picturing like I don't know how the whole show goes, but it seems like it's set up to where you could change the music and do a reflective thing if you wanted to. I do sometimes. I do. With the band there, there's so many opportunities. But there's other ways you can be honest on stage too,

besides that is one truth that I brought to the stage that I didn't. But just, you know, overwhelmingly, just doing comedy so long. Even though you're talking about your mom or whatever. I do, oh, you know, I do. It's funny because I said, I think you'll find this funny. I should preface it by, my mom was an amazing person. She was a lot to celebrate. But like a lot of people deal with this.

I'm not saying this to be disrespectful to my mom, but it's just the truth. was an amazing person. She was a lot to celebrate. But like a lot of people deal with this. I'm not saying this to be disrespectful to my mom, but it's just the truth. Because of some of her topical behavior, she caused chaos a lot, whatever the reason was. So it was hard to celebrate her because she was always, now that my mom is gone, not that I would wish that she was gone,

but life is a little easier. And one thing, this leads to something funny, that life is a little easier and it one thing, this leads to something funny, that life is a little easier and it's so much easier to celebrate her, and I do all the time. I lay in bed and I'll just cry thinking of my mom, the things she did. She got very little and gave us so, so much, but that doesn't mean that she still didn't cause a lot of problems. So whenever my friends mention their moms,

I always go, oh, you know, they complained about their mom. And I'm kidding, people have a right. I go, when your mom's dead, you're gonna miss her so much. My friend Daniel Kieno goes, I know, she tells me that every time I talk to her. I go, what do you tell her? He goes, I don't know, Mom. Todd said his mom died, and it's the best thing

they'll ever have to do. And which is a little out of context, but it's just so. It's funny. I'm trying to make a joke that I can't get to work. Where I say, you know, you get older, you have a family, and no one ever tells you just how much it's gonna cost to put two parents through dying.

Instead of coming home. Right, right. And I go, and you don't get anything back from it, just the satisfaction that they graduated. You know? They graduated to the next, to the other side. Right. Oh, that's so funny.

No one talked about how much it was to put your parents through dying. Oh, my mom, the good thing is, and I'm glad, it happened, it just happened. It just happened so quick. It really did. Like, I have messages. You know, my dad, I had one message and I erased it.

I don't know why. I was 22 when he died and maybe I didn't know how much I'd want to hear his voice. My mom, I started saving her messages and playing them on the podcast. A week before she died, I have messages. I want to bring my new friends to the show. She was planning on coming to the show. And then, you And then I went home as soon as I found out my brother called me, he goes, Todd, because she found out she called

me in the hospital. She goes, Todd, the cancer's back. And I was doing her job. So it was way back. Yeah. And they were sending her home for hospice. Now you're off some of the medications, so it happens quick. And I went home and we were all there and the dogs were in bed with her, but I said some things. I go, Todd, I did. I told her, I said, mom, squeeze my hand. And she squeezed it. And I go, squeeze it again. And then she squeezed it again. And I go, mom, don't kill me, but squeeze it one more time. And she went, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze.

And I go, you got her ear. Not like, well, I'd like to believe she was listening. That's special too, if that's all you had. You don't know. But she knew, she heard me. And I, oh my God, it was so hard. But I just said, you did, mom, I knew, I wanted to be realistic, even in the final hours

of her life. And I said, I know that there was a lot of drama with the family in the last year, but mom, you did such a fucking good job. And I just said it and I just, you know, I sat and I didn't think I had this, I was affectionate with my mom, but I was feeding her sherbert and rubbing her head. I didn't know if I had that type of affection in me with my mom. It's a little hard.

And then I fed her sherbet and I rubbed her head and just was there and it went pretty quick. My stepdad handled it beautifully. He was heavy on the morphine, which we were hoping he would be. You know what I mean? Don't keep her around for us. Yeah, yeah.

But one sort of funny thing that happened is she would remember people when they came into the room and some the next day after I got home I got the last little bit out of her the first day I got home the next day she was she was not out of it and this one guy she sort of has a crush on Everyone in her building was much younger like they were like 20 to 30 and they all loved her and her husband So one guy came in and she lifted her head Matt a really good guy. She goes Matt you showed up I'm like Matt get the fuck out of here. You just got a bigger reaction than me.

But I said it. I said it, and I'm glad that I did. Got closure. You said everything you wanted to. You had the time. You were there for her. I said it. I told stories about her.

And I could see whenever I told a story, she'd smile. You rubbed her head. That's nice. Yeah. Oh, that's great. That's nice. Yeah. Oh, that's great. That's great. You're not in that situation going like, mom,

tell me what you want me to do with the silver. Pfft. Ha ha ha. We, you know, we joke. Like we said, my friend that's a therapist goes, you don't want to be just laughing. You don't want to be just crying. You're doing it right.

Do the mix. You don't have to be afraid to. And I went on stage, I did my comedy three days later at a club that she had been to every single year since they opened, helium and Philly, the staff, everybody was just, man, sometimes people remind you how decent they can be as a species, and it really melts your heart, it really does.

I think that's true, and sometimes it's hard to find those moments, but they show up when they're supposed to yeah, well, I wish you the best of luck with this project Thank you, and I appreciate you having me on and such you know I called you like two weeks ago You're like yeah, come on of course seed and spark seed and spark give them a shout out give the triplets I want the triplets. They're on tik-tok. They're three triplets. I can't get enough of these fucking guys I want them on my podcast, I figure if I give them a shout out they would. Also Netflix special coming out, it's on Netflix,

it's coming out in May, Wanda Sykes is one of the executive producers and it was an amazing experience. Who's on that? It's a lot of people, it's half stand up, half documentary, like talking about me before I, talking about the process of coming on your show. And there you go, did I get everything? Now, how does that work?

They just go to Seed and Spark? They can go to my website, the easiest thing for them to remember, and that'll take them right there. ToddGlass. ToddGlass.com. But Seed and Spark is the platform that we did it on, and really glad we did, they're pretty awesome.

And then, yeah, go look at the, there's options. You know, you pay this, you get that. You pay this, you pay that. Pay the whole thing, boom, boom, boom. So there we go. So thank you, Mark. Thank you, Todd. Great to see you.

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