WTF with Marc Maron Podcast - Episode 611 - Godfrey

Episode Date: June 14, 2015

Godfrey and Marc usually bust on each other in the back of comedy clubs, but this is the first time they've sat down for an hour to bust on each other in a garage. When they're not hurling insults, Godfrey tells Marc about his Nigerian background, his memories of Bernie Mac, his stint as the 7 Up guy, and his new TV show Bullseye. Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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How are you, what the fuckers? What the fuck buddies? What the fuckeneers? What the fuck aloha? Yeah, that's right. Listen to this. That's the real ocean. It's the ocean.

I hope it's not just coming off as noise, but I thought like I'm in Hawaii. I should do something. I should get outside and do something i mean i'm in kawaii i'm looking out at the the sun is just setting um maybe it just set it's not dark but you know right after it sets where it's just purple yeah it's like purple with clouds purpley clouds now i'm right by the water with the equipment right here by the water oh all this lava this lava rock. I hope the wind doesn't fuck things up. So anyways, a couple of people looking at me weird. That's fine. I can live with

that. That happens wherever I am. Now it's just happening for a specific reason on the beach in Kauai. You know what? I've come here for years and years. This may be the third or fourth time that I've been here and I love it. And time that I've been here, and I love it. And I've always tried to figure out why I love it, because a lot of people don't necessarily picture me as an outdoorsy guy or even a recreation-based person, a guy who likes to get outdoors and do things. But au contraire, is that how you say that?

I am not really an outdoorsy guy, but when I come here, it's so fucking compelling, man. Can you hear the water? Like, I'm out in the middle of the fucking pacific it took five hours to fly here it was horrendously uh stressful for me and anxiety inducing to fly over water that long because I don't know about you but I feel much more comfortable if I were to crash in land and I think I've talked about this before but I'm more comfortable with that I fly over water I'm like if we go down it could take weeks to uh to find us and I'll be strapped into that dumb chair at the bottom of

the ocean with uh you know crabs and things and fishes eating out my my eyeballs it's just sitting out there i'd rather just be destroyed and spread across the prairies you know on land where you know maybe maybe we're findable they're not just strapped there's just something very lonely about the vision of being strapped in one of those dumb fucking airplane chairs perhaps next to you know a couple of strangers and maybe one person you know just sitting there at the bottom of the ocean dead how lonely is that imagine if you were in a first class seat you'd be a little more comfortable but it'd just be you alone sitting there look at this fucking ocean just sitting there at the bottom of it dead, no one

finding you. But you got the good chair, right? You got the good seat strapped in while you slowly decompose and crabs and things eat your eyes. Not for me. But getting back to the positive part of Hawaii, it's just beautiful. You know, I don't know how to

explain this, but I've always been compelled towards animals like walruses, polar bears, elephants, large animals that lumber through the world, solitary-like in my mind, even though both of them probably hang out with other animals like them but but in my mind just big animals that exude a certain loneliness but a sort of steadfast sort of feeling oh there's a cruise ship just yonder there are people about two miles out i see a cruise ship right now there's just people wondering when they're going to eat next when are they going to ring the bell when does the bell ring for snacky snack? So anyways, I'm here with Sarah, and I went past the Nepali coast. I took the boat. I've done this stuff before.

I've been here with several different women. You guys know this. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. This is where I go. This is where I feel comfortable. This is where I enjoy vacationing. We're way up on the north side, And I need to see a sea turtle again.

I need closure on that. But it's massive. I can't understand what's so amazing about it. It's like seeing, when you take a boat around the Nepali coast, you're like, oh my God, I can't even wrap my brain around how beautiful and large it is, how prehistoric it is, how unfucked with it is. There's something about big and unfucked with that's very compelling to me and almost it's spiritually satisfying it's it's almost like

mind-blowing it's mind-blowing when you take a boat to see the nepali coast and you go around the coast mind-blowing and you get quite nauseous on the boat but not unlike heroin sometimes you just got to get through the nausea to the good stuff. And then you got to get the nausea on the way back. But I don't feel like I have to go see the Nepali coast every day. And if I don't, you know, I wouldn't kill to see the Nepali coast every day or steal TV sets to see the Nepali coast every day. That would be a very exotic addiction. And I imagine it would run its course after two or three times. So who's on the show today?

Today on the show is Godfrey, I think. Or Judd Apatow. I guess I got to do intros for both. Godfrey. Godfrey finally is on the show today. From my garage. Godfrey. I'm trying to get up.

Here we go. Whoa. He's hilarious, and I like talking to him. We have a longstandingstanding uh uh frenemy relationship i love him though i love him oh yeah man go to wtfpod.com slash calendar please please portchester please red bank new jersey please huntington new york please brooklyn's doing fine all right at BAM Opera House but the the other surrounding dates I need people I got family coming to Red Bank New Jersey you're gonna leave me hanging

with the small crowd with family half empty room so they can go like that I see I knew it was all hype are you gonna do that to me I'm not being desperate here maybe a little but I just like maybe you don't know that I'm coming I don't know maybe you're all driving to New York that's my assumption uh that you're all driving to the B Opera House. There's still a few tickets left over there, but that's looking good. Red Bank, New Jersey. Huntington, New York. Port Chester. New York. Come on.

25th, 26th, 27th, 28th of this month or soon. It's fucking beautiful down here. I'll tell you though, man. I got this urge. You know, I went, I went to this place called the lava pools, Molokai lava pools. And there was this area that many years ago when I was here with my first wife, we took a snorkel and you just jump in the water anywhere.

And I've talked about this before, but I went to where I jumped in the water and swam with the fucking dinosaurs with the sea turtles. I went to where to where and it's dangerous i don't know who that mark was but this mark wants to do it again it looks dangerous it's very rough up there but there's something so invigorating and inviting about the dangerous water it's not shark infested it just looks rough and intense but it's very inviting i just want to get in and get under the intensity and see if I can find some dinosaurs. I only saw a couple. I only saw their heads. I saw some goats.

Saw the dinosaur crabs. I've eaten some good food. Almost wrecked the car once because these bridges are complicated. I'm trying to clear my head. I'm doing all right. There's very exciting things happening on WTF. Just wait. You just wait. Alright?

Don't act like I didn't say that some exciting shit's gonna happen. Alright? Alright, so let's talk to Godfrey. You'll love this. We bust each other's balls. Let's do something. You can get anything you need with Uber Eats.

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And then I just was like, nah, man, I can't. What? What? What do you mean you can't? The hats were sick. The caps were so cool. I think I might do that again that cap shit it's just merchandise i'm no worse on the cap it was a g but it was such a cool g you know how you have green bay yeah you have georgia has it yeah but this g was like oh it looked like a hat you

cap you would wear you right it wasn't cheesy is it godfrey g it was a godfrey it was a godfrey g but it was a sweetfrey G, but it was a sweet-ass G. But they didn't have to explain that, right? Yeah. I mean, but the G, it looked like a hat. It didn't matter. It didn't matter. Some people would be afraid to ask.

They just think they should know. I know. What G is that? Oh, for Godfrey G. Who? He's such a asshole. No, I didn't say that. I said that because it happens to me.

It happens to me. Well, when comedians sell merch, we're trying to do it like a sports guy. You're a fan of, you know, you wear something that says, yo, what's that? Oh, these are the south carolina blue devils right oh cool yeah now you gotta go world for the comedian that's the comedian guy god for his right now you know the guy from the the thing isn't that movie the black dude with the snoop dogg movie Movie soap. Do you remember the second guy in the 7-Up commercials? Not the first guy.

The second one? And then they canceled it? Yeah, the second guy. That dude. Yeah, he's out for like three commercials. I did 21. You did 21 of those? Yeah, about 20-something of those.

That was when it was all going to happen, right? I don't know. But I took it in stride. You know what's so funny? Is I never thought like that. No. I was like, yo, hey, I'm going to do it while I can get it and then keep it moving. Didn't you have that fallback plan to teaching the martial arts or something?

No, I just took it. Yo, are you recording right now? Oh, yeah. Yo, I know you ain't talking shit No Remember Remember the buzzcocks You were on your way Oh yeah

Remember the buzzcocks I go oh shit I hated every second of that It was I know You look so angry I hated it every second of it You know what's so funny

I'm so glad it didn't work out I would have been the wrong guy You know what I like about you Is you had a show And you were still angry You were still shitty It was terrible It was like

The only reason I did it Was cause I was just out of my first divorce. I know. Broke. I know it's a Mishnah. Was it Mishnah? No. That's the first one. Wait a minute.

Twice? Yeah. The Buzzcocks was after the first divorce. I was dating Mishnah. And that was a friend of me and Artie's. Right. Yeah, Mishnah. How is he doing?

He's doing good, man. Artie's doing art yeah mishna how is he doing he's doing good man is already already he's doing no one ever talks about artie because no one gives a shit because i ask people about art it's all about tracy morgan which they all were in the fucking car yeah harris stanton another comedian was in the car broke his wrist guy jimmy mack died died um i never knew jimmy yeah but um yeah but already it didn't sound good at first you know how i heard about arty in the accident i was sleeping you know you ever you know on the road and leave the tv on yeah left tv on cnn i'm in sleeping i hear on arty fuqua i wake up to that yeah and i'm like he made it he made right up there i'm like arty's on cnn but it's because of the accident and so he broke his femur

okay not the tibia muscle which is the bottom I know the femur rough pins yeah he has like a steel rod

so he's going through rehab he's fine they put him in an induced coma just because he had brain you know there was some swelling that guy's worried about and so

we waited for a while and everybody started calling me. Yeah. Asking me where- Why'd they put him in a induced coma? Well, he had to have his stuff stabilized because, I guess, to heal, his brain to heal. He got a concussion? He got concussion.

He doesn't even remember the accident. But is his brain okay otherwise? His brain is fine. He's shitting on people again. But like, no, no, like- No, no, no. No, no. No, no. None of that shit.

No. He's like quick and fast. He doesn't remember the accent. Why would you? Does it? Why? Yeah. I mean, I go, what happened?

He goes, I don't know. I don't know what happened. It was bad. It was, yeah. He doesn't remember that. I'm so good. That's so good to hear he's okay. Everybody went to visit him.

A lot of people called him. You know, people that usually wouldn't him a lot of people called him you know people that usually wouldn't fuck with Artie actually called him I said well I hope it doesn't take an accident for you motherfuckers to like actually

give a shit about the guy if anything happens to you I'll make sure to think about calling really you'll think about it yeah I'll be like how well do I know that guy really

how would you say I talk you talk articulately did you put clearly no say that again articulately you you say I talk? You talk articulately. Did you put clearly? No, say that again. You don't even know how to say articulate. I have a speech impediment. With your L's, you got the Tom Brokaw shit.

Yeah, I got some of that. When you get to your L's, it's like your tongue looks at me and gets confused. It doesn't do it right. Really? Articulately. Articulately. That's pretty close. I wish people could see

what I'm looking at your tongue is stupid yeah it does it doesn't do the right L your tongue stinks do it one more time articulately

it doesn't do the right thing articulately I know but I say W there's some words I struggle on rolling L's is what I have I wanna make sure I know white dudes

with speech impediment cause you guys are always trying to shit on black dudes and we can't speak English but you fuckers are sitting up there with good jobs having speech impediments.

I do not represent the white race. You don't? No. I have a speech impediment. I just said impediment. You said imperiment? Impediment.

I have a speech impediment. I'm white but I know that you were looking for me to tell you that you don't talk like a black man. Right.

You're digging for that. I was digging. I thought you would fucking get in. No. But you're not like that. No, I don't. Look, I don't see race. You're just a black guy in my garage.

Yo, you know what you sound like? You sound like Tarantino in Pulp Fiction. I didn't say dead. I would not. Storage. This is live Negro storage. You can't even do it. You can't even do it.

But you know what? I used the N-word yesterday at the comedy store. I mean, that's not my thing. It's like the word pussy. The comedy store brought it out of you? No, no, no. Nigger or pussy. Yeah. I don't like that word as describing vagina i just that's just not my i like pussy no no i like to call somebody a pussy yeah but i don't go yo ladies man when you get

your pussy right yeah i'm not that's just not my flavor i don't think you say anything i like to say vaginas you do well but i'm not really into the sex jokes like that. Sure. I like edge. I talk about race. I'm all about race. All about race. All the time.

Even if we're in a peaceful setting, I want to bring the shit up. Do you? Like right now, I'm like, man, Mark. You feel like it. No, it's very serene here, Mark. You got all kind of cool shit, but I want to bring up race. Why have black people on the wall? There's Howlin' the Wolf over there.

Every white man has a blues singer on their wall chuck berry's not chuck oh you don't think he came from the blues he did but he's not i wouldn't call him he's the king of rock and roll fuck elvis exactly i'm with you on that the shit he did with guitars even though he fucked little girls and all this shit he's fucked up but chuck berry was way better than elvis did he fuck little girls he did he took pictures of they take oh he took girls? He took pictures of people in the restroom of his restaurant. And I think he peed on a lady. Okay, he peed on a lady. Every time a cool, artsy, smart, intellectual, eclectic white dude,

I go to their house, they always have black blues players on their walls. I'm getting my Kanye portrait framed right now. And I'm going to have that put in later. You're going to interview Kanye. You'll interview famous black dudes. I would like to. I would like to. A lot of your, okay, can I tell you something about your podcast?

This is what I kind of like about the champs. You heard about champs. All they interview is black people. Well, dude, all you guys interview is white people. I'm trying. I'm trying to mix it people. Well, dude, all you guys interview is white people. I'm trying. I'm trying to mix it up. No, it's not hard. You sound like networks, man.

Not that hard. It's not hard to mix it up. No, you just got to go. Just like, let them in. No, no. It's like, all right, can I can I talk to the guy that has Cat Williams phone right now? Is there a guy that carries his phone? There's so many black comedians. it's just cat williams same motherfuckers like that funny let's get back to this racing

i'm trying to book more black people i did a whole episode you should book more black i am i did a whole episode of my tv show about it i had bruce bruce no i play himself i told you at fucking Austin, Moon Tower, to put me on an episode of your show. I said, why don't we talk about why don't you have more black people

on your fucking podcast and you use Bruce Bruce instead of me? I think he's got a bigger name than you. Oh, you're such an asshole. Doesn't he? Bruce Bruce? Bruce is my man. Bruce is huge.

Right, exactly. But wait a minute. What? I told you that. We talked about it. You sure reminded me. We talked about it in the green room. There was some guy.

And you went and put Bruce Bruce on it, not me. And I brought the idea up to you. Well, he plays a very, very popular black comedian. Listen. And listen. And he plays himself. Like if I said, oh, I got it. Holy shit.

I hope I can get God. And I'm not knocking anything. I'm not. I don't want no beat. We'll take care of it. I love Bruce Bruce. But how do I get on?, I got it. Holy shit. I hope I can get God. I'm not knocking anything. I'm not. I don't want no. We'll take care of it. I love Bruce Bruce. But how do I get on? And I gave you that idea.

How can I get on your show? You gave me that idea. I say, why don't you have an episode of where a black comic says, how come you never have any black people on your podcast? And you said, yo, that's a good idea. Oh, shit. It was at Moontown in Austin, Texas. Do you know how long black people have been telling me that I need to put more black people

on? Do you know how long that's been going on? Listen, it's not... Okay, listen. No one's waking up going, I got to get on Mark. No, I think some of them are. No black people. No?

I don't think so. But see, that's the problem then. No, it's not the problem, but we already automatically think you don't want us. I want you. No, you... I want all black comics. What? What?

Did you... Okay, can i tell you something that happened what jamie masada at laugh factory got a uh a letter fax to him saying that some white comedian i guess the white comedian sent him hey we're tired of you putting up all these black comedians you're discriminating against white comedians he puts up five of them yeah and he just got the letter the other day yeah and what did he say and jamie well jamie's like listen buddy someone tried to threaten me put black media i put all kind comedian everywhere what fuck you talk about i don't know what jamie was saying yeah but yeah he goes i that's interesting that's almost like an asian jamie but that's he that but he that's all

he he has asians work for him yeah so. So it's Asian versus Persian accent. So he's like, hey, I put many comedians. I need more Asian comics, too, and more Latino comics. Why don't you? There's Elliot Chang. There's Helen Hong. Have you interviewed Helen Hong? Are you making these names up?

No. She's funny as shit. Helen Hong. There's a lot of Asian. Steve Byrne, right? Steve Byrne? Yeah, I did Steve Byrne. Steve Byrne.

He's half Asian, but whatever. There's a lot of them. You just got to ask. I Steve Byrne? Yeah, I did Steve Byrne. Steve Byrne, he's half Asian, but whatever. There's a lot of them. You just got to ask. I got to get out there. You don't have to get out there. Have your book or get them. You got people to do shit for you, man. Everybody knows about what the fuck.

Do they have to be super famous? Wow. No. Clearly. I'm interviewing you. I interviewed. That was a good one. I opened the door because I want you to fucking whoop i want you to get on me

that's good you like it i fucking love it why who wouldn't be on a mark maron mark maron cast and get fucked up by your sarcasm no i don't but i don't do it to everybody there's only certain people that i have that relationship with i've seen you interview some people and i just go that ain't mark mark is laughing too much. Mark is full of shit. I'm the new Mark. Mark's like this, really? Tell me about your.

I go, Mark is actually interested in someone. I'm interested. You only know me from the back of comedy clubs. I know. But that's the raw shit. Defensive. Here it's comfortable. It's my home. That's true.

Yeah. You're so like right yeah it's normal i'm a normal guy because usually you know you know you got one impression of me and marks you draw it out of me you demand it i do yeah i do you need to be taken down a notch always that's fine i'm here to get taken down a notch i'm not i'm not i'm not being surprised by shit but by your kindness that's the only thing i'm being fucking surprised about we're here to celebrate your career there it is again you're like mayweather man you'll have your hands up and then boom you'll still you'll throw a punch i don't know a lot about you so wait so where'd you grow up uh chicago really always in chicago chicago um where were you born were you born lincoln nebraska Where'd you grow up? Chicago. Really? Always in Chicago? Chicago.

Where were you born? Were you born? Lincoln, Nebraska. Really? Yeah, I'm not fucking around. Why'd your parents? Because that's where they went. Shit.

Nigeria, from Nigeria to Lincoln, Nebraska. How does that happen? Airplane? No, I know that. What the fuck? But like your dad said what? He's like, I'm looking for a place to live. I'm getting out of Nigeria. I'm getting out of Nigeria. I'm getting out of Nigeria.

But he went to school there. My father was a teacher, and he went to a teacher school at Dana College. It's now defunct. Now it's called Midwestern University. In Nebraska. In Nebraska. Got his master's in teaching there, and then moved to Chicago. I was two years old.

So your father, because you used to do a great bit about the way your father talks. Yes. Which I enjoyed. Mufasa. Mufasa. What are you doing? And you know what's so funny? Yeah.

So my girlfriend met my dad. She goes, oh, my God, he talks like that. I go, I told you. She didn't even understand his accent. He was just talking to her normally like, so, where do you go to school? She was like, what is he saying? I go, he asked you, where are you going to school? He's like, so, where do you go to school? She was like, what is he saying? I go, he asked you, where are you going to school? He's like, so, where do you go to school?

And she couldn't understand that? She couldn't understand. Is she a moron? No. Your name is not that far from moron. All right, stop, Mark. I like how you draw the line. Don't talk about my girl.

Don't you talk about my girl. Fuck that. Only if you praising her. Yeah. Damn it. That's it. I just seemed easy to understand to me. Yo, he was talking, just talking regular stuff.

He's got a different rhythm. Yeah, his rhythm's different. Of course, the accents hit different words. He speaks the King's English. They were British educated, my mother and my father. Do you have family in Nigeria? Plenty. And in London.

All around Africa and plenty in london too really yeah because nigerians are are you kidding me nigerians and jamaicans and indians live in london man right but like that's interesting because like it's not it's not the american black story it's different it's very different and i can't sell that for shit no can't no one cares i don't think i'm i'm i think when i tell people i'm an afric don't, they don't, I'm not the African they want, want them, they want to see. I'm not the, listen, I have a show I want to pitch to you. This one is very good. Wait till you see this one.

It's about my parents come to America. Then my white friend is my roommate. Oh my goodness. This is going to be a good one. See, I don't have that help African accent, so white people don't get excited by that shit. I should go, I have something to pitch. How do you say pitch this well?

In the beginning, this would be a good story. See, I'm talking like a hip guy, like, yo, you know I'm African. So they're like, oh, he's African. I don't really believe that. So you never had culturally an accent. Is there a language that your parents speak? Yeah, Igbo. My tribe is Igbo.

Yeah. Really? How many tribes are there in Nigeria? There's about 10, 11, 12. Really? A gang of them. Yoruba, Udu, Hausa. But the popular ones are Igbo and Yorubas, okay?

Yeah. My mother spoke two tribal languages. She grew up in Lagos, Nigeria. Yeah. There's 120 million people in fucking Nigeria, right? Wow. Yeah. It's a fourth leading exporter of oil in the world.

And yeah, it's- There's a big exporter of Manu's self-fake Rolexes too. Oh, that's Senegal. Oh, okay. Sorry. Sorry. My mistake. Was that racist?

No. It's a misunderstanding. You're an Africanist. Okay. I can't believe it. You got your Africanist wrong, man. I fucked it up. You fucked it up.

All right. That's like Kenya and Senegal. Like in New York? Yeah. Like, brother, brother. I have a Rolex for you. Rolex. Those are Sen fucked it up. You fucked it up. All right. That's like Kenya and, like in New York, like, brother, brother, I have a Rolex for you.

Rolex. Those are Senegalese? That's Senegalese. Brother, brother, come, come, come, come,

come, good, good, good, good watch for you, brother. good, good,

good, good, very good, good, good, good. I'm going to get you your African shit right.

Okay. Now, if you go to Ethiopia, it's more, they talk real, because the sizes of their heads kind of like this, you know, perfect.

I didn't say it. No, I'm anthropologically telling you, my head, I got a West African head. Really? And our languages match our heads. Ethiopia is different. They're almost Arabic looking, some of them. Right. They got the Eastern, because it's closer to that region.

You know what I mean? That part of Africa is where Saudi Arabia connects and all that other shit. Right. So you have that, when they talk, they're skinnier. Yeah. You know, they have the smaller heads. Right. And their language is lighter.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very safe. Yeah. Ours is like, See, I got that head for it. Yeah. It's anthropologically true. Okay.

There's nothing racist about that. Okay. I'm breaking it down to you, man. No, it's because there's a, They stay within the tribes, within about that. Okay. I'm breaking it down to you, man. No, it's because there's a- They stay within the tribes, within the country. Right. And then they have European influence like Ethiopia has. Yeah, when the Dutch come over and fuck.

Well, the Dutch fucked around a lot of shit. Like in Africa, it was English. Came from West Africa. I mean, I'm talking about Nigeria is England. Right. Ethiopia was Italy. Italy, Mussolini. Italy came. Oh, yeah. A lot of Ethiopians speak Italian. Italy, Mussolini. Italy came.

Oh, yeah. A lot of Ethiopians speak Italian. Oh, yeah. So you got that. And we had Dutch, and Belgium was all in the... I mean, Europe fucked Africa up. Like, fuck. Just stuck its dick in Africa and just sodomized it for a long time.

So your parents come from which tribe? Igbos. tribe? Ebos. The Ebos. My mother spoke Yoruba also. She spoke two languages. Right. I'm an Ebo guy, and they spoke that language. They used broken English a lot when I was growing up.

My sister understands it totally. You don't. Because she was born there. Me and my brother, we understand broken English. Right. When they speak broken English, I get it. That's what my parents got later. Yeah, like pieces of Ebo.

Yeah. Sounds like a jazz album. That's our news of Miles Davis later. Yeah, like Pieces of Ebo. Yeah. Sounds like a jazz album. That's our news of Miles Davis. Yeah, yeah. Pieces of Ebo. Ebo. He's the way to go in jazz. But I have that.

Hey, pretty good. Thanks, buddy. You like jazz? Sure. Listen, I asked you that because every white guy I know loves jazz and blues. Yeah. So you love, basically you are in love with black dudes. But I don't go all crazy about it.

Now you want to say you don't go crazy about it, but I'm saying when you're a guitar player, if you're a musician. I have a great deal of respect for the music that the black people have brought. But music is black. I'm willing to admit that. Music's black. I admit that. Black and music are synonymous.

Okay, period. You need me to say I love black dudes? Yes. You on the fence. I'm on the fence with you usually. But yeah, there's some black dudes that I love. They've changed my life. But you like black dudes that are dead and are imposters.

Well, no, Chuck Berry's still alive. But you like, you know how there's i've said i like cat williams that is true but i think it's because he's huge no he's funny no cat is phenomenally yeah he's unreal every time i watch him like holy shit he's so good he's so smart he's like the best cat williams is so smart so gangster he's all of that in one. Yeah. You know, he introduced me, and I'm not lying, he introduced me, one day we were at this post-Emmy, or Grammy,

some shit party, and he said, I'm gonna introduce you to some motherfuckers. I was like, all right. And guess who he's the first, guess who the first person he introduced me to? The first person,

Martin Landau. Really? Man. He goes, Martin Landau, man he goes martin landau legendary goes hey what's up cat i go holy shit and then cat goes i'm gonna i'm gonna introduce you to somebody else fucking there's music playing it's jazz where is it where are you it's at some it was at some post um like grammy or os party. And then he introduces me. Guess who's playing jazz piano?

Who? Jeff Goldblum. Right. Yeah, he likes to play jazz piano. I'm like, oh my God. He goes, hey, what's up, Kat? How you doing, Kat? I was like, fuck.

He goes, what's up, Jeff? He goes, I'm doing fine, Kat. Yeah. It was unreal. Kat is a fucking gangster, man. Kat Williams is a gangster. Yeah. Straight up.

He's awesome. I love that mother show. He still does arenas. Yeah. And fucking gangster, man. Cat Williams is a gangster. Yeah. Straight up. He's awesome. I love that mother show. And that's why he still does arenas. Yeah. And he's just awesome. He's thorough and he's been doing this for a long

time. Yeah. So it's not some overnight bullshit. Oh, there's Muddy Waters too. Of course you have Muddy Waters.

Madish boy. I have Muddy Waters with a fucked up guitar and that natural hair. Like you don't see the picture with the natural fro too often. No, it's always greased down. Yeah, look at that. he's got it up in that picture that's a rare shot that's very

him in a full fro man see but you know how look at you got you know what's so funny is your place looks even cooler because you got blues dudes on every white dude puts black cool dudes on what are we supposed to do you want me to have cornell west up and we're not cornell west that's hot but i'm saying as much as martin I'm saying as much as white dudes talk shit about us, they always got us on their t-shirts. You always got black dudes

I don't talk any shit about you. I'm just saying other people. Apparently, what you're saying is I don't talk to you enough. I'm just doing what you guys do, categorize us. So white dudes...

I don't know if I want to be in the same thing. Okay, good. Good for you. But okay. I'm just testing. I'm just checking. I know what you're trying to draw a line. I don't know if I want to be in the same thing. Okay, good. Good for you. But okay. I'm just testing. I'm just checking. I know what you're trying to draw a line.

I don't know if that helps. But I like you because you don't like a lot of motherfuckers, whether they're white or black. And I like that. You're equal opportunity mother. I don't. Oh, yes, you do. I think, you know what's worse to you than racism?

Being a hack. Mark Barrett. Mark Barrett. That's boring now. If hacks were a race mark would be like you'd be like a nazi i've softened up a bit you know you'd have my story so you have earl you have older sister yes i have older sister lives in dallas with three kids just one older sister one older sister one younger brother really what's that guy do my brother just works and just chills out in Chicago. Yeah?

He does martial arts. Yeah, I teach martial arts and shit. Oh, he teaches martial arts? Yeah. Is it that one that you used to do? Oh, his is Wushu. I did Hapkido. Hapkido?

Yeah. Wushu? Wushu is like that Jet Li shit. Oh, yeah? Yeah, Wushu Kung Fu. He can fly? Yeah, he can fly and he talks in a fucking weird dubbed voice, and he laughs. And your sister just lives in where?

Texas? Yeah, just in Texas, Dallas. Yeah. She's in the medical business. Really? Management, yeah. And your dad still teaches? My dad has passed away.

Sorry. And my mother and my parents are gone. Both of them? I know. Didn't I just? What are parents, motherfucker? Both. There's a pair.

Yeah, motherfucker. Parents. You got both of them? You said both of them? Yeah yet didn't i just what are parents motherfucker both pair yeah motherfucker parents you go both of them you said yeah i'm sorry man i said my parent no they're gone no they're gone my mother uh like 13 years ago uh-huh leukemia uh-huh my father i think just from being alone i swear my father my father but he left he was around for like 10 years but i just think he was just done being by himself. I just think it was that thing, you know? He was a healthy dude, and all of a sudden, deterioration, man. I couldn't believe it. How old was he?

My father, he never really told us his age. Really? Yeah. You had no idea. You're not supposed to ask. In Nigerian culture, you don't ask elders their age and shit. Really? I'm not even bullshitting you.

My father used to always say he was 100. Uh-huh. He's like, how old are you, Dad? He's like, 100. So did you go to Nigeria? Yeah, I've been there. It was something else. It was a trip. Like what, and yet how much family? Lots of people. Yeah. Lots of people. How many relatives you got there? Lots of them. Yeah? A lot of poverty too.

Got some wealthy ones, but some lot of poor. And then you see the poverty you go wow america ain't shit our poverty is bullshit yeah i mean you know what you know what's so funny is about our poverty in america is like you can actually get out of that shit right that's why i go a lot of motherfuckers are just lazy and kind of just i'm not drugged out sometimes drugged out and that's fucked up but in you when you see third world you just go fuck sometimes i think that like it's a misconception that uh that everybody can

just get out of poverty i didn't say just i didn't say you can just get out but i think that there are some avenues if you really make your mind to go hey man i know it's not gonna be easy but i'm talking about when you go to third world you go where the fuck do they start yeah and holy shit yeah i mean honestly you just go with toilets maybe that kind of stuff yeah it's like they just happy to get a bucket of water the whole town celebrates water we got water water oh no let's celebrate What the, what the, what the, what the, I'm killing on what the fuck, everybody. Hey, if you want to make Mark laugh, make sure you come to his house. Because outside of that, he'd have looked at you like, what the fuck are you doing?

Yeah, this is the best. This is the best seat. And Mark's red, too. He's red. Yeah. He's red right now. This is fucking great. No, but I'm serious, though.

My Brad relatives are really, really poor. It's like poverty. But your parents came from a middle class in Nigeria? No, no, poverty. Very poor, but my father was a very, like, I'm going to school. He's very smart. He had, like, four brothers and a couple, no, a lot of, like, and he made up his mind, like, fuck this.

I want to get the fuck out of here. So you got all these cousins there. Cous cousins and uncles and all kind of shit yeah and i have i have some like uncles that have two wives and shit like that polygamy yeah oh they do that yeah they do it in the tribe in nigeria yeah you can do that you can have more than one wife i have an uncle that a couple uncles that have that more than one wife shit how they handle that fine they just tell them both to shut up. You shut up and you shut your mouth. Go get me something to eat, both of you.

Hurry up and get me something to eat or I kill both of you. No. I don't know. It's probably two motherfuckers getting on their nerves. I don't know. Where did you stay when you go down there? Where did I stay? I stayed at my uncle's.

My uncle's Sonny Okosun, who was a very famous singer in Nigeria. So we were staying with wealthy shit. He's very famous, but he passed away some years ago. But he was very famous in the 60s and 70s and 80s. What's his name? Sonny Okosun.

Do you have his records? Sonny Okosun. Yeah, my mother, you know what? I don't know if my parents threw him out, but we would get the first press vinyls. And then they would come over. They would have concerts in Chicago.

It was awesome. You didn't realize how famous my uncle was because he's just my Uncle Sonny. Right. And then when I go to Nigeria, they go, well, where are you staying? Sonny Okosun. Sonny Okosun. No. You are staying with him.

No. That is your uncle. No, he's not your uncle and so all of a sudden you get all these people going you are Sonny Okosun yeah it's like yeah

damn he's huge because you know in Nigeria is your dad's brother it's my he married my mom's sister oh okay so he was

that's my son you know and so what's funny is there's famous singers in Nigeria Fela is like one of the most famous fela but then there's fela there's ebenezer oh but then it was my uncle oh son they were like my uncle was like a huge like are you kidding me like yeah my uncle sonny was like he had a huge record in the 70s called fire in sueto where he got in trouble for talking about south

africa so it was huge so that was like I didn't realize that my uncle was that big. Because he was in Nigeria. It was Nigeria, but he was like the shit. Yeah. Yeah, man. Fire in Soweto. I got to check it out. You guys, try to look up for Fire in Soweto.

Because I like Senegalese music. Senegalese? Oh, you like Baba Mal? Yeah. Dude, I'm impressed. Old Baba Mal. Old Baba Mal. Right. I saw Baba Mal Yeah Dude I'm impressed Old Baba Mal Baba Old Baba Right

I saw Baba Mal in concert In Brooklyn That album Baba Mal Montour Sec Yeah yeah yeah That fucking record Dude you like Straight up acoustic

Senegalese stuff Cause Baba Mal got drums Yeah yeah He got bigger Have you seen him live No Baba Mal is incredible And he has male dancers

Have you seen African dance Live Not live You wanna see the origin of dance Baba Maul is incredible. He has male dancers. Have you seen African dance live? Not live. You want to see the origin of dance? Watch Africans dance. I know. It's origin. We're the origin of everything. We're the origin of people, motherfucker.

We're the origin of people. That's why I don't dig this shit of all these biblical shows with no black people. The fuck is that, man? I know, man. Everybody's white. I don't know. Where were we? If we're the first on the planet, where were we when we didn't get to see Jesus

and we speak about Jesus more than anybody and we ain't even on there? Yeah, I know. I know. What color do you think Jesus was? What color do you think Jesus was, honestly? I think he's a made-up man. There you go. Can I compliment you first of all even my girl was like mark maron deserves what he's worked really he's been around a long time no i'm really happy for you man i mean genuinely like you if

this is your shit this is perfect for you i'm glad for your success and i'm i'm actually happy for you what i was to say is that- I was going to say thank you. How's that? Oh, thank you. Jesus Christ. That's what I love about you too. You don't give a fuck.

Thank you very much. Anyway, let's move on. Sorry. I'm happy for you too. You keep it real. That's what I like. You always yourself. I was happy when you thought-

You just kept it moving. You blinked and like, yeah. No, thank you. No, I was happy when you thought everything was going to work out. Oh, shit. Oh, fucking. Oh, this is what I wanted. I said, please don't let this shit be nice.

Please don't let this shit be nice. Please don't let this. I said, I do not want to come on What The Fuck and have me just be all nice to you. Oh, this is so good. But what I was saying is I think I should buy some things. People would seem to enjoy it. No, it's just, dude, I'm like, I'm thinking when I'm driving through the neighborhood, I was like, okay, it's a lot of Mexicans and shit. But it looks like hippie.

It looks hippie. You live like a hippie. Like, this is cool. I feel like I'm, it's a lot of Mexicans and shit. But it looks like hippie. It looks hippie. You live like a hippie. Like, this is cool. I feel like I'm in the 60s. Where are you living? I live, well, right now. Oh, can I tell you why I'm here? Yeah.

I'm here because I actually got a show. Me, articulate black dude that's not fat or short. Right. I actually got a show. Doing what? I'm hosting this show. It's on Fox. fox yeah it's called bullseye and people do different stunts big time stunts for money and um they get money up to

between like 50 grand and up and it's amazing and i'm hosting i actually doing a network show that's exciting we've been shooting i knew that it was real when i saw a helicopter on the set i go what the fuck are they about to do with this oh we're gonna we're gonna be dragging people and and it's really awesome congratulations thank you and every and like i'm happy you got a good job what's really cool is everybody goes it's about fucking time dude like i'm glad it's that yeah it's about fucking for you for me yeah no shit they say you've been around. And I heard even like a guy like Greg Fitzsimmons. You know Greg?

Sure. Happy Greg. Another sarcastic. Oh, my God. Greg goes, that's another thing I can't figure out is why Godfrey hasn't gotten anything. I don't know. Maybe I pissed somebody off, Mark. No, I think what it is is that you are a very big personality.

There's a lot of people with big personalities that are on TV. What do you mean? I don't know if that's true. I think if I were white, I'd have at least a lot of pilots. At least I'd have a lot of pilots to keep money in my pocket. I don't know because you're very fast. Is that wrong? No, there's nothing wrong with it.

I'm just saying that sometimes it's not, I don't know how well you act or whether, you know. I'm a decent actor. I have good chops. Louis C.K., he put me on his show. Okay. Louis C.K. is one of the few white dudes that is not intimidated

and is not on that dumb black shit. That's why I love Louis because he put me on the Chris Rock show three times. And this is without me. He's put me on his show twice because he told me hey man just be who you are you're a talented guy yeah not like a lot of these i don't know what the reason is yeah i don't know you know i'm not trying to fuck your girlfriends don't worry about me my girlfriend is fine and she's black look i never know i don't chase white women i never got cast in nothing well mark you did that on for you on your own no what are you talking about i thought you were just mad you got mad at people i did but that but that's something you're a white dude that's not working i always say it's their fault yeah it's your fault that's interesting like bill

burr said a white dude that's homeless he goes come on man this shit's set up for you it's no excuse bill burr said that he said it he said it he said are you kidding me what the fuck are you homeless for this shit is set up for you man come on man but i really believe like a lot of guys i know like a guy like a greer barnes who is uh phenomenally talented yeah what do you think happened there i mean i think you know i think that i i mean listen we're all at fault at some point i think there was some moves i made that were terrible i mean what i think i when i was out here i was bi-coastal i was i had a shitty fucking manager he was garbage you know what i'm saying how long did that about a year or two and

i you know i'm the type of guy that i'll stick with people because I'm loyal and shit. You know what I mean? I'll stick with people because I'm loyal and I'll get shit on because I'm loyal to dudes. And I can call somebody else out. Somebody at CAA. Sure. I want to call them out, but I won't. But that bailed on me after I stuck with that motherfucker you know what I mean

I have found that what you're doing right now has done nothing good for me I think we might no but I mean I'm saying I'm loyal man I believe in loyalty and I like to believe in people and then when they shit on me I'm like wow that's fucked up but also that just means that we're kind

of you can be suckered well i've learned now i actually fired a management like after about three months and i was i did it i was like i'm good um you guys i i told you what i needed i told you what i needed i've been around long enough i'm not a has-been but i think that you know this business is long enough where we can actually get shit but they weren't and this is why I know there's a red flag when they automatically ask for commission on your already you're like hey you're at Uncle Funny's you gonna give us

some money on that I go wow commissioning gigs you booked and I go wow really you're on that so I was like i'm out yeah i'm out yeah you know what i mean and i have to tell like can we have our 300 hours yeah yeah i tell my people that represent me from my lawyer who's awesome shout out to jamie roberts who's the baddest lawyer on the fucking planet and i get guys i get him to talk to and to say hey man tell

these people that i'm letting them go because i don't want to curse them out. Maybe that's maybe I haven't cursed anybody out. But I was with my manager for almost 22 years. What? Who were you with? Before I moved on. Who were you with? Becky. Really?

I was. A long time. Becky's a powerhouse, man. Yeah, but it just wasn't happening for me. So like. And I was afraid to talk to him because I thought he already had his black dudes. I thought, you know, once they got their black dudes you know you know heard about that one nigga uh one nigga allowed rule right no you know that you know black people say that you know

they only met one nigga in at a time it seems becky has a great success rate you know i would love to be i was with him for a long time from back when he started yeah and you know wasn't i you know we we're friends i talked to to him. He's awesome, yeah. He's a good dude. He's a good dude. But I'm like, damn, maybe I should have went with Becky. When? I don't know.

Back in the day, I don't know. Because I was afraid. I was intimidated. Like, I was like, I think he's going to probably pay attention to those black guys and not me. I don't know. It all comes down to you in the end. I think it does.

It comes down to taking your own reins. You just need somebody to be there to have your name in play and then when something happens to do what needs to be done. The business is set up so you can't do what needs to be done. You gotta have some people that know how to do that shit. Well I'm giving a shout

out to my agent Ian Arrighetti who is a fucking badass. We're all happy that you got something. I'm so happy, but I'm going to tell you, Ian was at Paradigm, and I left when he left and went to Innovative with him. I'm giving a shout-out to Innovative

Agency, because they actually give a fuck about me. It's great. It's about time. No, but they give a fuck about me. Even when I'm not getting shit, they give a fuck about me even when i'm not getting shit you're they give a damn about me i'm giving a shout out to ali flotter ali flotter didn't win an award oliver ali flotter jim oliver i'm no my whole i'm gonna bring that i'm gonna bring alan duncan who's my voiceover agent in new york city here comes the music

i'm giving a shout out to josiah all the LA offices and Innovative Chicago I'm telling you they give a shit about me even when shit isn't going on that fucking Ian has got me my live shit he's kept me afloat keeping my head above water not trying to be like good timesy look and for something to turn around for a guy in his 50s

oh yes another one by Mark Barron you know what in his 50s. Oh, yes! Another one by Mark Barron. You know what? If there were boxing announcers, they'd be like, yes! Mark hits him again! He's stumbling! Oh, you're great. That's what I want.

That's what I want. I want to get fucking pummeled by Mark Barron. And you know what's great? You wait. You fucking wait. You just go, and you know a guy in is you wait you fucking wait you just go and you know a guy in your 50s oh it's fucking sweet yo say articulately again articulately you're the worst you're fucking elmer fudd like elmer fudd articulate we you're the worst yeah exactly but you did you had a lot of shots. Like, you know, you were like in a way.

Not big shots, but you were kind of. Not big shots. You were like me. They kind of kept you in. You're probably like, I got to get out of this shit. Because you're such a really, you're such a great comedian. And you're such a fucking, you're, a lot of guys are intimidated by you intellectually. Like, you walk in a room and you're like, oh fuck, Marc Maron.

I don't know why that is. Because you're such a... I think I'm just like intense. You're intense and you look like you're above all the other comedy. And your style of comedy is not the easy way to do comedy. You're like the Dennis Millers, the Carlins, the Maron. You're like

intellectually, people go... I wish I could do it the other way. Your brain doesn't function like that. It doesn't function like that. My brain doesn't function like some... Let's be real. Everybody's going to categorize you when you get on stage. Oh, he's going to do black comedy.

My comedy is not the easy way to go. I go into race. I go into heavy shit. I like my intellectual shit as intellectual as I want to be. But you can also do the big funny stuff. But I'm that kind of guy who's a big silly motherfucker but i'm a big carlin fan i'm a big big big time car yeah i got to see him live before he passed and i i like that i take that other route i've always been different you know i started out in chicago at bernie max club and bernie took me under his wing I like to say that he

sure did I knew Bernie very well how old were you I was like 22 really and he was a powerhouse and he was already in his like 10 11 years when I met him the first time I saw Bernie Mac and Cedric and uh who are the other ones D.L. Hughley yeah and Steve Harvey I don't know if it was Steve Harvey though it was the Aspen Comedy Festival oh shit and they brought those

guys out there for a showcase powerhouses it was Cedric and Bernie who the fuck else I don't think it was D.L. it must have been

the mid 90's yeah that's when they were and like in these and Bernie had already been killing it black clubs like he was a huge star

but he's just up there at a ski area sweating. It was something to see, man. I've never seen dudes look more out of place than Cedric and Bernie in Aspen. In Aspen. It was beautiful. I tell you, motherfucker. Let me tell you. I don't know.

I've never seen all these motherfucking white people's shit. But let me tell you, goddamn it. Let me tell've never seen all these motherfucking white people and shit, but let me tell you, goddamn it, I'm telling you, this motherfucker's shit. This motherfucker's crazy as shit. This motherfucker. That's how Bernie talked. I know. Bernie, that was a very Chicago accent, very South Side, Southern Chicago accent. When I first met Bernie, it's so fucking classical.

I go up to him. I'm on the North Side. I grew up on the North Side of Chicago. You've been. Yeah. Second City. That's where I grew up yeah and so very mixed area whatever so when i so they go i was like man i want to do some urban comedy i want to do urban they go well you need to go see bernie mack on the south side of chicago and you're like 22 what you went to college yeah i went to university of illinois this is after you graduated yeah yeah what'd you get a degree in psychology how'd that work out it was pretty cool it's good i've gone beyond my degree using comedy and shit i know beyond when did you start doing comedy

what when did you start doing comedy around 22 23 that's when it started so you got out of college you're like i can't do anything with that fucking degree i said i want to do comedy i think i want to start comedy because in college tommy davidson i'd seen tommy davidson and i hung out with him he hung out with me before he he was all fucked up. Right. Yeah. And Tommy, I was like, wow, I really, really want to do this comedy thing. Yeah. And we used to always joke around.

I went away for college, so we always used to joke. Where'd you go? University of Illinois, Champaign. Not too far. Fighting a lot. Yeah, two and a half hours away. Far enough. And we used to joke, and I used to, that's in college.

What'd you do in college? Play football and shit? Played a little football. I walked on a team, and they said, you're used to, that's in college. What did you do in college? Play football and shit? Played a little football. I walked on a team, and they said, you're going to be a really good comedian. Yeah. I ain't getting no playing time. So I started to really start, I was really militant in college, too. I started getting really militant.

About? Black history. Sure. And just, we had an African-American cultural center where we all came together on Sundays and did our own private, like, we started reading books outside of the curriculum. And the president tried to stop it. Really? Stan Eikenberry. Yeah, he tried to stop it.

Like what books? Well, let's say Stolen Legacy, The History of Black Civilization, Behold a Pale White Horse, the autobiography of Malcolm X. Yeah. You had a problem with that? Well, they had a problem because we were learning real history and how whites made everything in the books. Growing up in grade school, it was like, hey, slavery and now Martin Luther King. Yeah. What?

Yeah. Something must have happened in between. Right. And probably now they're hey slavery and now martin luther king yeah what yeah something must have happened in between right and probably now they're going slavery and the nba i mean you know slavery yeah i mean come on you know so we started to learn wow we were doctors lawyers we were this we were that we did so much you know and me being nigerian even though i'm an african still i'm still an american i'm treated the same way. That's why I don't understand when Africans come to America, they act like they're better than African Americans, which is fucking stupid because they treat us the same exact way sometimes

kind of in a way. Right. You know what I mean? Sure. I mean, I've been told in auditions, auditioning for a Nigerian part. I've auditioned for Nigerian parts. They go, you're not African enough. See, they want me to go, hello.

Excuse me. Do you have some clothing for me to put on? I only have this loincloth over my cock. You know what I mean? You have actual white people telling me that I'm not African enough because they know Africa better than I do. So, okay. So at 22, you talked to Tommy. I talked to Tommy and he hung out.

And I said, after I graduate college, I was dating this chick. It was a rebound chick. And she had taken down these notes. And she took down these notes and said, hey, you should like do, you know, you should, you should, I wrote down a lot of the shit you were saying and I've never heard anybody say it the way you say it. And the reason why, and I'm being honest, I became a comic not necessarily, oh, you're funny.

Everybody says that. I took pride in the fact that I was this black dude who actually knew about different shit. My parents raised me in a very different way. I knew a lot of black movies and black and white movies. I was just into a lot of other shit. I wanted to be an astronaut. I was into NASA and watch. I was boring, but I played a lot of baseball.

My baseball knowledge is ridiculous. And a lot of, I mean, I'm saying a lot of my friends, a lot of black dudes that I grew up with, I knew black guys that played hockey yeah my friends they were hockey players right um so i was very it was eclectic i can consider that eclectic right so i took pride in that when i do comedy i'm gonna have so much different shit because every black dude's gonna be kind of the same right but i'm gonna be different and when i started to do bernie max club bernie was like he his I let me tell you why I like you because you're different

You know and you said you you you know you got motherfuckers in the audience and and the audience would be like pimps Hustlers, but then Michael Jordan would be there. Yeah all kinds of different people He's like, but you you know you you talk about all this smart shit, but motherfuckers is cracking up He goes you're versatile and that's what I took pride in was that I was different. That whenever I leave the stage, my thing is that dude was fucking different. He just talked about other shit. But it wasn't magic. I was just like, why don't I talk about this instead of that?

Everybody's talking about this thing. Why don't I talk about that thing? And then when I came to New York, which made me 700 times better when i saw you guys performing you and and and colin and fucking um giraldo and i was like wow now this is what i'm talking about and then i was like you know of course you know me robert kelly and all of us we were the personality guys and but then eventually all that we started to actually write better jokes. And just watching you guys, and I'm actually saying this, watching you guys, I was like,

fuck, man, I need to get back. I need to get better jokes. Attell. Yeah. Fuck, man. Yeah. Everybody will watch Attell and be like, oh, I got to go back. Yeah.

And we still do. And Attell, we have to sell her. You just go, I got to go back and write a better joke. Where's he got time to do that shit? God damn it. And I mean, just really great jokes. Crazy. And it's joke writing. Crazy.

And you're part of that. Yeah. I don't mind complimenting you. Not because I'm on your damn podcast, but you're a fucking phenomenal joke writer. Thank you. And so I got influenced. I said, how can I do that but still be myself? Still use my whatever energy.

Now I'm that guy. I can talk about really edgy shit. I'm not happy with myself when it's easy. I'm not happy when I get a cheap laugh. I like it when I get a laugh where people are like, fuck. You really illustrate everything. You play it out. You act it out.

That's how I do it. It's Pryor-esque and Carlin was like that. He You play it out. You act it out. That's how I do it. Yeah, it's great. It's Pryor-esque, and Carlin was like that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. He still acted stuff out. But it's so funny. Did you stay in touch with Bernie all through? Yeah, I remember Keith Robinson. Keith, Keith, one time Keith was on.

I got to have Keith on for a long one. Did you have Keith on? I'm not going to need to. I have him on a live one. Oh, you got to have him on. Yeah, I know. Yeah, oh, Keith, God damn it. Let me tell you something.

Stupid. What the fuck? I'm so sick of you. God damn it. Keith is phenomenal. Keith was on tour with Bernie. Yeah. And so Keith calls me and goes, yo, Godfrey, man, I'm on tour with Bernie back.

You know, he just gave you a compliment. Bernie gets on the phone and says, hey, boy, what's up, motherfucker? I'm proud of you, man. And I said, I told you, Bernie was a good man to me. He used to school me on shit. I was so fortunate to sit there with his wife and him at 3 in the morning when the bar was closed. And he would just sit there schooling me on shit. Like, what did he tell you?

He would just be like, listen, let me tell you something. you tell you he would just be like listen let me tell you something i like i have to imitate him yeah so let me tell you something when the motherfuckers are on stage and shit you gotta understand it's not about trying to get a standing ovation and shit you gotta be he said the he said 50 of performance is being interesting he's like fuck fuck a joke little motherfucker like that he's he liked that he's in the same motherfucking room with you. He said, that's half the battle, is them just liking to be in the room with you.

You see some comics that are not even that funny, but they're just fucking, you just want to be, you just want to watch them. You just want to fucking watch them. He said, half the battle is just, he goes, first of all, you're never going to be super funny five. He goes, too many motherfuckers try to be funny. He goes, that's unreal.

He's like, just be interesting. The funny will be there. It's up and down. You got to take him for a motherfucking ride. You got to tell him a story. The motherfucker, when you leave the stage, motherfucker, I know about this motherfucker. I know this motherfucker. You know, he fucking, I'm about this motherfucker. I know this motherfucker.

Yeah. He fucking, I'm telling you, he schooled me. I mean, I was fortunate to be schooled. One time, you remember when Jerry Seinfeld was filming his comedian? Yeah. I was around there. I got to know the camera dudes. So Seinfeld, that's how I got in two scenes. Yeah.

I sat there, and Seinfeld that's how I got in two scenes yeah I sat there and Seinfeld like had asked me he had seen me uh do this bit about uh going to Egypt when I had gone to Egypt for New Year for New Year's for 2000 remember the big 2000 why I went for I still traveled you know and so I went and I came back and when I came back from Egypt I I had a spot. I dropped my bags and still did my set. And I did this whole set about riding a camel, the camel ride. Seinfeld had happened to see it. And he said, I've been wanting to talk to you. And he sat me down.

And I remember Jim Norton was looking annoyed that I was talking to Seinfeld. He goes, hey, man, I just want to give you some. He gave me advice. About? About, he said, how long have you been doing comedy? And I said, I just want to give you some, he gave me advice. About? About, he said, how long have you been doing comedy? And I said, I stuck my chest, I said, I've been doing it about eight years, man.

I was like, eight years? He goes, okay, that's kindergarten. You know, that's kindergarten. He goes, remember this, all your years in comedy, it's like your age as a kid. That'll keep your perspective where you won't get too fucking high and mighty

with your shit. If you've been doing comedy eight years, you're an eight-year-old uh-huh if you've been doing it 10 years you're a 10-year-old just think of it like that and you'll just always kind of you'll just keep stay even keel and i think that's fucking cool that was the advice he gave he gave and that and he talked about certain jokes i do he goes sometimes he goes he goes you don't mind me giving you you advice i said dude you have 40 porsches yeah yeah i don't give a fuck yeah give me a hack joke i'll do it he goes like some jokes where you laugh at it don't laugh at it sometimes if you stay more serious it'll have more of a punch to it like some jokes you laugh at i noticed he goes he actually no i was happy

as fuck he goes be more serious about it and it'll even have more of an effect uh-huh and i was like fucking cool. So he gave me really good advice. So he's always been really nice to me. You know, Seinfeld,

if you don't, he doesn't know you. He'd be like, you don't ever talk to me. Well, that's you. I try not to laugh at my own jokes

unless I'm waiting too long. You rarely laugh at your jokes. If you laugh, you know you're like, oh shit. This guy got mega work. If I'm laughing at my joke, it's a Hail Mary pass.

I'll give it a few seconds. And so I've learned to stop. But I laugh at some jokes. Sometimes I laugh a little bit. I go, yeah, it's funny. I like it. I'm laughing too. Sometimes it's a habit, though.

Like, I've gone through periods in my life where you get in the habit of it. Like, when I used to smoke a lot of weed. You don't smoke anymore? No, I don't do anything. But you're always half laughing at everything. And then the audience is like, I don't know why he's laughing, but I'm laughing too now. It's a trick.

It is a trick. I'm starting to smoke weed. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I just started about six, seven months ago. You did nothing, right? I did nothing. People ran away from me.

Well, I figured since did nothing. Everybody's, it couldn't, people ran away from me. Well, I figured since I had this underlying anger, like, you know, About what? The black thing? About all kind of shit because of conspiratorial shit. The reason why they didn't pick me

because I'm articulate and smart. I'm not buffooning and all this other shit. And just anger about different things in life. Yeah. You know, maybe it's subconscious shit

that my parents are gone. It could be that. It could be a lot of shit. You haven't worked that shit through? How long have you had it? How long I've had what? The anger? Ah,

it's been a while. My girlfriend says that. She goes, you got like, you're really like an angry dude. It actually fuels my comedy though. Actually does. It does.

But- Do you ever fight people? No. No, not really. I'm not really one of those. Because I'm angry. I get angry.

Yeah, but I'm not a brawler or anything. No. I can talk shit, but i'm not really one of those because i'm angry i get angry but i'm not a brawler or anything i'm not one i could talk shit but i'm not yeah i always want to slack the shit out of people i always want to in my head smack the shit out of people like i always have pictures in my head of smacking the shit out of somebody i used to i don't have that much anymore no that's good good for you good for you yeah i don't know i think it's i think that i i just had this theory that if i start smoking weed now, that maybe this stuff will start mellowing me out. Maybe.

I said, let me try it. And I think it might be working. I'm treating my girlfriend better. Like, I'm not getting mad. And when she gets mad at stuff, it's my reaction to her shit. And knowing that I did it, I'm like a little bit better, I think. I think. But I'm beginning

i'm not that good at smoking weed i got edibles i fucked up i got these edibles right i bought like lollipops chocolate bar shit and i got a lollipop i tried let me try the lollipop first yeah so i'm sitting you know this uh new channel by robert rodriguez l ray no it's good oh fucking awesome it's like they have it it's Grindhouse. Yeah. Kung Fu movies, 70s movies, Italian Western, Spaghetti Run. It's on TV? It's called El Rey. It's fun.

It's awesome. It's Robert Rodriguez. Yeah, I know. And he interviews different directors. Yeah. Coppola. It's awesome. So, and it's for Spanish, English speaking people.

Yeah. They show Spanish wrestling. Right. So it's all in Spanish? No, it's English. Okay. But it's for Spanish, English speaking people. Yeah. They show Spanish wrestling. Right. So it's all in Spanish? No, it's English. Okay. But it's for English speaking Spanish people, my fault. So I was watching all Kung Fu movies, three hours of it. And I had this lollipop.

I said, let me try this lollipop. Started licking that shit. And the dude that sold it to me said, yo, fucking be careful, dude. This is not a regular lollipop. I was like, whatever, dude. Lick the fuck out of it. Yeah. And so 40 minutes later, I'm like,

this shit ain't shit. Let me lick this a couple more times. Holy shit. Two and a half hours later, I fucking started moving in slow motion, but I was in regular motion. And the Kung Fu movie was unreal. I know, I'm being serious.

And you know when people talk about getting high, and I always used to, and me as the healthy dude used to be like, that's exaggeration. Right. I was fucking paranoid. I didn't know what was going on with my fucking legs, and my arms were moving slow, and I fucking balled up on the bed like, yo, I'm not leaving the fucking house. You're in trouble, man. I was in trouble. And the dude, and I text the dude and I'm like, yo, you're right about the lollipops. And the guy goes, I told you, enjoy.

That's what his text said? No, it felt like, oh, I told you, enjoy. Everything was like, whoa. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, you're really high. It was so strong. It lasted for like three hours. I was so scared.

You didn't enjoy it at all? Nah. Just terrified. It was a little bit of a nausea. Yeah. Yeah, that was- I'm starting to do weed, though. That was not a horrible drug experience, but it was-

It was fucking rough. It was because I'm not an expert. And I'm- Well, you're not used used to having control your faculties always i was like what the fuck and i was looking around and then i went to the mirror to see if i was in slow motion and i and i felt like i was i was in my own body yeah yeah but my i was moving normally but i was like oh man what the fuck yo yeah so now you're in though so now you're getting high like every day i try i try but what's great is like people always want to give me free shit because i'm not a drug dude right but they go hell yeah i'm smoking weed with godfrey and that's cool yeah because i have at least a little bit of a name i'm tiny i'm mid-level no i'm mid

level no i think you're like kind of famous high high but you're no i think you're top of the mid-level i think you're famous where you want to be famous this is where you want to be yeah yeah theaters yeah you're not trying to do arenas you're not an arena guy no could never do an arena but a lot of pressure do you honest okay we were talking about that me and keith we're talking about would you would you be happy to do arenas i would say and i told him yo i wouldn't mind doing an arena for the money-wise, but if I had a choice, I'd rather do a theater. Yeah.

Just more intimacy. This is really the first time I'm going out for the small theater run. Really? Mm-hmm. I've done some. There are some cities I can do it in, like 800 to 1,000 seaters. The type of comedy like to make a theater like your size you gotta you know make it your size or you try to get as big as the theater

yeah you're and then it's like it might get a little weird because i know i do you know but like i i like good like certain comedy clubs i don't like all of them some of them are not great right but i you know we'll see i'm gonna go out and see how it feels. And then after this tour, maybe I'll just- You're going to do a special? What are you going to do a special? Yeah, I'm going to do a special. When the fuck are you going to do a special? Another special?

Have you done one yet, a special? I did Black by Accident Comedy Central. I did it at the Gramercy Theater. It was great. Oh, yeah. It's a good place. It went pretty good. Black by Accident.

You guys can go on iTunes with that one. It's still- I did it like three years ago. Black by Accident. Thank God there was that storm. Remember that storm that hit? Was it Sandy? Whatever, that hit New York? Good, because everybody had to stay in. I don't know if you should say that.

Well, shut up. Sad for the people that watched. Shut up. People had to kind of stay in. I'm sorry that was difficult and you lost your house and stuff, but Godfrey's happy you got to watch his thing. You know shit, you know what? You're throwing me under the fucking bus.

You threw yourself under the bus. I'm trying to throw you a line. Well, you're right. I'm trying to help you. We don't even have to put it in. Yeah, you're right. I left the door open for you. So you feel good?

Are we good? I feel awesome, dude. I feel awesome. I'm working. Where are you living? Oh, man, the old Oakwood Apartments. They put me up at the Oakwood Apartments. Oh, really?

Yeah. It's classic. Classic Oakwood. I used to drive past it going, fuck in the old Oakwood Apartments. They put me up at the Oakwood Apartments. Oh, really? Yeah. It's classic. Classic Oakwood. I used to drive past it going, fuck in the Oakwoods. Everyone who was front, like anyone who's anyone who didn't want to move here but got a gig here has lived in the Oakwood Apartments. That's a forensic file story right there. Dude, you could literally murder a motherfucker.

I'm surprised they haven't done a horror show. Furnished apartments. They're furnished. It's good. It's great. You don't have to worry. That's known for where they put people up to

who's doing long-term gigs. Everybody and their mamas over there. You just don't really see them, but you see them, but you don't. Oh, yeah? Yeah, because they're

trying to be cool. It's Woodsy. Oh, is it? Yeah, it's Woodsy. And the show puts you up there? Yeah, man. I thought that was cool.

I'm glad you're working. Are you really happy? Yes. I'm glad I'm working, man. It's not cool to come to LA and not be working. The reason why we have a good time is because we like each other. You struggled to say that one. No.

We could not do what we do. We could not do what we do if we didn't like each other. No, you're right. You're right. Always liked you. You have? Yes. You know, sometimes people will think, Mark if we didn't like each other. No, you're right. You're right. I always liked you. You have? Yes. You know, sometimes people will think, Mark Maron doesn't like me.

Yeah. People think that. I go, no, that's just his face. Yeah. Yeah. It's just him not liking him. Right. That's his face not liking him that is reflecting out to you.

That's right. That's exactly it. But he's actually looking at himself. Exactly. He's sort of like a Salvador Dali of his own face. Exactly. You know what I mean? That's right. He doesn't like you. He doesn't at himself. Exactly. He's sort of like the Salvador Dali of his own face. Exactly. You know what I mean? That's right.

He doesn't like you. He doesn't like him. You know, I said the Salvador Dali of his own face. You got it because I'm in your fucking world. Yeah, I think I got it. I liked it. I liked the combination. But did you understand it?

Because that one fucking painting of him painting himself looking at you. Yeah, looking with the wide eyes. Oh. Yeah, yeah. I was in the museum in Tampa. He has his own museum. It's sick as fuck, too. It's so nice. Oh, is that where the Dali Museum is? Oh, looking with the wide eyes. Oh! Yeah, yeah. I was in the museum in Tampa. He has his own museum. It's sick as fuck, too. It's so nice.

Oh, is that where the Dali Museum is? Oh, it's beautiful. Beautiful. The canvases are a lot smaller than people think. Right. They're a lot smaller. There's some are big as shit, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you're like, wow, he painted himself about to paint something looking back at you. Wow, is that talent. You like the art. You go to the museums. Yeah, yeah. I'm an art. My girl's an art. We love the art you go to the museums yeah yeah i like i'm on my art my girls and art where we love the art shit we she's very medieval too she's really a expert in medieval history really knows her oh she's sick with it man sick with it anthropology and medieval so we

go what does she do she's uh private equity finance rutgers university top of her class business sick as fuck got it she was a trader yeah she was at barclay she's dope you should hold on to her fuck i am you're living a dream with this show i know i'm always fucking up i'm always acting an ass and so she's like yo you stupid ass you know she's like you know what i mean you know i did i fucked up many times and she's forgiving me a lot of times you have some babies or what no she doesn't give a fuck about that either. She thinks they're going to come out funny too. She's like, that shit's not going to come out funny.

I go, all right, let's not do anything. I don't know. She goes, we're two totally different looking people, and it might come out weird. I thought that was hilarious. It might, because it could happen. Where's she from? Jersey.

Maybe she doesn't want none of that Jersey in the baby. Good to see you. Go get a hack. Thanks for – I would love to come back someday. Jesus Christ, you just did one. I'm just trying to get my dibs in, dude. That's all. Do you count for two black men if I come back?

Yes. Yes. I can even talk like this. Hey, Mark, I want to tell you, man, I really appreciate you bringing me here, man. Hold it. Save it. Save it for next time. Okay. I'll just come as a different dude. Thanks, yes. I can even talk like this. Hey, Mark, I want to tell you, man, I really appreciate you bringing me here, man. Hold it. Save it. Save it for next time. Okay, I'll just come as a different dude.

Thanks, buddy. Funny, right? Fun guy. A little edgy. A little edgy with me. A little edgy with each other. It's been that way for 20 years. Love that guy.

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I never do that, but we wanted to talk. We were going to do a short one. Then we got to talking. We had a nice conversation. Then also on Thursdayursday tremendously uh big announcement for everybody involved big announcement for everyone involved me you people in other countries around the world it's a it's i'm going to make an announcement on thursday that's going to have reverberations around the world. I'll leave it at that.

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