WTF with Marc Maron Podcast - Episode 867 - Rob Huebel

Episode Date: November 26, 2017

Rob Huebel and Marc start a new podcast within this podcast. It's a show called Contact List and they're pretty sure it makes them sound like jerks. But before that, Rob tells Marc about getting started in comedy during the early days of the UCB Theater, which led to his sketch comedy show Human Giant as well as rolls in movies like The Descendants and TV shows like The League. Plus, they talk about Rob's other new show, Do You Want to See a Dead Body?, which is better than Contact List. Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I'm Marc Maron. This is my podcast, WTF. Welcome to it. How's everybody? Rob Hubel is on the show today. Rob has a series that he created and stars in Do You Want to See a Dead Body? It's on YouTube Red. I didn't, you know, I never had Rob on. But it turned out to be hilarious and had a great conversation i got a real kick out of him we kind of had a good time me in the hubel so i'm a little uh i'm a little you know bonkers you know moving moving man

it's just like it just never and i have not touched the garage the garage is is like this preserved museum of me that is now just sitting out here by itself the house is uh is getting emptier uh it's uh i moved the fucking cats which is no small deal it's's very odd how cat-like I am. And I know I talked about this, but I can't, it's very weird coming back to this house with no cats in it. I realized that I've been worried about this house

for almost two decades because of those cats, what's going on with the cats. One of the reasons I could never leave the house ever was the cats. What about the outdoor cats what about boomer like when i went bankrupt and i was going through that divorce i didn't i didn't know how if i had lost the house how would i go anywhere it would how was but boomer was

outside i couldn't move boomer well that's over but now the hat this house has never had no cats in it and it's weird because i can just leave the door open now and and every time i walk by and i'm like oh shit but nope there's no cats in it it's so weird and there's almost no me in it it's so fucking bizarre and everything just seems like moving is never ending this is a small house but obviously i'm going to stay here in the garage for a bit my house is not in that bad of shape i just have to fix it up i don't know what i'm going to do with it i think i might just here in the garage for a bit. My house is not in that bad a shape. I just have to fix it up. I don't know what I'm going to do with it.

I think I might just maybe keep it as a cabin. Maybe keep it as a workspace. Maybe just have the garage here and use it as the office. I don't know. I don't know. I know that I have to use it for an extended period of time. I don't know. The most difficult thing thing i gotta move is this garage and it has remained untouched anyways what i did want to reach out about here is that um

somebody that we know and like a lot is dealing with something really tough right now we want to to lend a hand here barry crimmins is a great comic and someone we've enjoyed having on this show. I did an episode with him back in like 2013, and then he was back on with Bobcat Goldthwait in 2015. And if you saw the documentary that Bob made about him, Call Me Lucky, you know Barry's story, that he's been a tireless advocate on behalf of victims of sexual abuse. Now, we found out that Barry's wife, Helen, who's an artist in her own right, a great photographer, is in the middle of a cancer fight and the cost of treatment has become overwhelming. The co-pays alone are just staggering for the two of them. And it's just tragic. It's really heavy what they're both going through. And with all the help that Barry has

given to people in his life as an advocate and human rights activist, we figured we can help lift Barry and Helen up right now. If we can lift them up just a bit, that would be tremendous. If you go to Barry's Twitter page, you'll see the pinned tweet has a link to Helen's GoFundMe account. That's at Crimmins, C-R-I-M-M-I-N-S, on Twitter. Someday we can hope to live in a country where they actually fix health care so that no one can ever be driven into financial peril because they got sick. But until that time, we're going to have to help each other. So let's help Barry and Helen out. OK, go to go to at Crimmins on Twitter and look at that pin tweet for that link to the GoFundMe so we can help save Helen's life.

So Godspeed, Barry and Helen. Sorry you're going through that. And I hope we can help out a little bit. So that's horrible. But there is hope there. There is hope there. We've been in touch with Barry a bit. there we've been in touch with barry a bit so i am uh in the middle of this move and um projecting a lot onto my cats and onto my own situation and wondering you know whether i can

handle it whether i deserve it whether you know i should have just burrowed in here but it was a it's a trip to move those cats man you know monkey know, Monkey and LaFonda and me have been together for a long time, since 2004, 13 years. Gone back and forth with Monkey in New York, and LaFonda has made that trip once. But this is really the only home outside of their childhood home in Astoria, Queens, where I found them in the, uh, in the alley that they've ever known. And, uh, it was weird for me. Like, I think I was just, it was getting sort of sad just to, just the cats here as I took things out.

And there was part of me that thought, well, maybe I could, um, you know, maybe they, they, they just stay at the house when I'll just have them. I'll come over when I record and sleep here and, uh, and they'll just, they'll just live here. But then I realized that was ridiculous. So now I moved them and they freaked out, but they, you know, they're going to be all right. Everyone's going to be all right. I'm having a hard time throwing stuff away. There's a, there's bits and pieces from different parts of my life. There's canned goods from my relationship to, you know,

like from years ago, there's furniture and things from my marriages. It's just, it's a little, it's a little bit much, you know, it's like a, an emotional sarcophagi in there.

And, uh, and I think a new page is, it will be nice. So Rob Hubel, uh, and I think a new page will be nice. So Rob Hubel has this great new series that he stars in. I mentioned that he created it. It's Do You Want to See a Dead Body?

It's now on YouTube Red, and we had a great talk. I had a good time with him. It was fun. It's a fun one. Fun one with a funny guy. This is me and Rob. Hi, it's Terry O'Reilly, host of Under the Influence. Recently, we created an episode on cannabis marketing. With cannabis legalization, it's a brand new challenging marketing category.

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Yeah. How much you liked it? I haven't seen it yet. Everyone loves it, but I'm that asshole. i've seen so little of what you do that's that's what i appreciate i'm glad that we are all now at the point where like we're like my best friends my best friend i can say like man i haven't seen it i don't there's so much i I can't what do I owe you I like you too much I'm psyched that we're all making money

I hope I hope but I can't I'm not gonna watch your show I just I do wanna watch your show though cause everybody loves it I know we talked on a live one

once before yeah me and Joe Latrullio Joe Latrullio that was at the Steve Steve Allen Theater Steve Allen Theater

yeah that was a long time ago yeah it was like five six years ago. It's long, right? Yeah, yeah. A lot has happened.

Yeah. You have children. I do. I got a one-year-old, yeah. Wow. Yeah. How's that? How's parenting?

Well, I mean, how's the kid? Super easy. She's great. She's great, yeah. We got off to a little bit of a rocky start. She was very great. Yeah. It was, we got off to a little bit of a rocky start. She came, she was very premature. Oh. Yeah.

So my advice, if you're having kids, is don't have them prematurely. Okay. You can avoid it. Do you have control over that? No, you don't. That's what they. Like how premature? She was very early.

She was three months early. Oh my God. Did they have to put her in the thing? Yep. She was in the thing. She was in the little. Oh, my God. Did they have to put her in the thing? Yep. She was in the thing. She was in the little box for, I think that's the term. It's called a little thing. Yeah.

They put her in the thing. I'm making jokes about my baby that was premature. But they put her in the NICU in the little box for four months, actually. Yeah. So it was great. That was a big part of my last year. Yeah. It was intense, dude.

It was very intense. But like, like was it touch and go? It's like, uh, not, not anymore. Like nowadays it's sort of like the matrix.

Like it's very sci-fi what they can do now. Like this baby was born when the baby was born and, and you know, we don't have to go into this for days and days, but like she was, uh, she was under two pounds. She was like one pound.

Oh my God. 15 ounces. So you're looking at like a tiny little alien, you know? And what they do is they scoop them up and they, uh, run down the hall with them with a bunch of doctors. And then they, uh, they plug them into all of these, um, machines and gadgets. Feeding them and everything. Yep.

And, uh, and nowadays. That's insane. them in to all of these um machines and gadgets feeding them and everything yep and uh and nowadays insane it uh they can they can you know pull off miracles so it's uh it was it was you know it was intense that's hard but uh yeah it was really crazy but i'm super psyched to have health insurance and uh and now we have this awesome one-year-old totally healthy baby really yeah i mean she has uh the thing that we're waiting to catch up is just her lungs like when they're born that early their lungs are like you know uh are really little uh-huh so you know we can't like she's not going to climb everest uh tomorrow but i'm not going to do that anyway no and uh there's no reason for her there's no reason you don't need to either what you know what no one has to what baby needs to be up on mount everest i don't think you should pressure

to do that although it would get a lot of likes oh yeah it would get a lot of likes yeah yeah so that'd be cool but uh but other than the lungs uh she's all good and then the lungs will catch up like uh that's i'm happy for you yeah that must have been. So you and your wife are over at the hospital every day? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Which is super fun. Tons of fun. Not stressful on your marriage at all. I've only been married, like, we got married like two years ago, two and a half years ago.

And I'm old, and my wife is young, and we were like, whoa, I'm old, and I'm going to die. How old are you? I'm 48. Really? die. How old are you? I'm 48. Really? Yeah. How old is she? She's 36, 37. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That's it's not like, yeah. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not like a pervert. Yeah. She's not like 20. Yeah.

You know, even then it would, it'd be, I don't know if that's no, no offense to 48 year olds that are dating 20 year olds. It's a little telling. it's on the cusp of I try to look at it frame it more as like that's sort of a sad situation that's not going to end well you know that guy

you know who that been that guy have you? sure many times? a couple yeah where there's like a 20 year difference?

couple times wow and what do you talk about? what the hell difference does that make? I mean like what do a couple yeah yeah yeah where there's like a 20 year difference a couple times wow yeah and and what do you talk about what the hell difference does that make i mean like what do because there are some things with my wife we're like i can't bring up you know hey let's joke around about the tv shows we watched when we were growing up no i know i have that with i i would like music you can't talk about like music that your your girlfriend would be like uh i like the backstreet boys or whoever no i know like i i'm the woman i'm with now is like 37 i think yeah 36 37 i should really

know the exact date you should and i'm 54 so you're great you moisturize yeah i do yeah me too what do you use uh no you don't have to plug it facial the the lubriderm facial. The Lubriderm facial, daily facial moisturizer. What do you use? I use that on my privates. Really? No. Interesting. I use,

I love me and you talking about moisturizers. On my privates, I use saliva. You do? Yeah. Where do you get that? Right out of my mouth. I use oil of Olay.

Why? Are we talking about this? Yes, on my face. Not on my privates. It's way too expensive for my privates. Really? I use your saliva Olay. Why are we talking about this? Yes, on my face. Not on my privates. It's way too expensive for my privates. Really? I use your saliva on my privates. Not when I'm awake.

This podcast is going down. Obama's listening to this, shaking his head. This is better than Obama. What I feel, no, I'm kidding. That was an amazing day, but we didn't talk about this stuff. What I feel bad about right now is saying, what difference does it make when you said, what do you talk about? Here's the truth of the matter.

Like, that came out of my mouth and I realized, like, that was insensitive. I got to take it back. Well, I mean, I went, I dated people that were significantly younger than me, but like, looking back on it, the woman I'm with now, I'm no emotional giant. No. Nor am I. Nor am I. And, you know, quite frankly, the woman I'm with now has really got me sort of level.

Right on the, yeah. Yeah. It took a long time. But like the younger people, the young people I've dated, thank God, the young people of this country. The younger people, the young people I've dated, thank God, the young people of this country. You know, I never thought about it much until you start going out places. Yeah. And I used to do a whole bit about that where the real, the guy who looks like, the person,

the one that looks like the idiot is the guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's not. No one's like, oh, cool. Well, you know what's up with that, right? Oh, yeah. And you can think that he's taking advantage of her but i found most of the time that guy's the sucker yeah it's not it's not

you know it's especially where we live yeah sure but like i i liked i genuinely like the uh the women who were like significantly younger than me and i learned things from them and granted we couldn't talk about tv shows when we were younger right but they do have a sensibility that is oh like you get to a certain age and you're kind of locked in things and you realize how limited your perception is good we're just hung up on how we grew up that's right and they bring a lot more of the table they're definitely more capable with you know existing in the world than I think I was have you ever been doing something with her and thought like, what am I doing?

Oh no. What am I doing? Not with this one. Why am I rollerblading? No, this one, the one I'm with now is we have a lot, a lot in common in those areas where we're like,

we don't need to go there. You both love rollerblading. No, we don't. We both love like sitting around going like, do we need to go to that? I don't think we need to go. Yeah.

I don't think we need to rollerblade. Do you want to rollerblade? No, I can't because it's going to hurt my- Let's buy skateboards. Let's both buy skateboards. No, no skateboarding. None of that kind of stuff. It's always fancy.

It's those fancy modes of transportation that screw you up. If you buy one of the little mono wheel things. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we're not- She doesn't get around on that. We're not doing that kind of stuff. Yeah. We're both very practical.

But the last one, I used to just feel like- It sounds like you burned through them. No. I've been with this one for a few years. Oh, great, great. No, I'm pretty long-term-y. Yeah. But there was one there for a while that was significantly younger.

I mean, embarrassingly younger. Yeah. I might have been 50. it might have been i might have been 50 she might have been 23 yeah and uh and i i thought we were sort of see you at i yeah yeah yeah but as soon as i got outdoors with her i was like oh what am i doing yeah there's nothing i could just look at me yeah i'm that i'm that guy she's like 10 yards ahead of you i'm that guy yeah yeah that's the yards ahead of you. I'm that guy. Yeah. That's the bit. Just me just scrambling. Hey, where are we going?

Wait up. Wait for me. Did you at the time, you know, like, did you drive like a convertible? No. Yeah. No, that'd be bad. I was never that. And I'm not even sure.

What about like a motorcycle, like a sidecar? No. No, that'd be too much. No, I'm not that midlife crisis yeah i really didn't see any problem with it intellectually or emotionally right uh it was really just sort of like you realize like i'm look i'm old yeah i don't feel that with this one you feel that one that with your with my wife no not at all um so there you go but you're not even it's normal man it's normal what less than 10 years or 10 years uh 11 11 years 11 years it's normal, man. It's normal. What? Less than 10 years or 10 years? Just 10 years? 11 years.

11 years? It's normal. It's normal. But it's not 20 years. It's not 20 years. I like that tone. No, it's good. It's fine.

It's fine. Ugh. It's just so. I don't know, man. Yeah. You know, love is a weird thing. In the end. Yeah.

That's the end of the podcast. Love is a weird thing thank you for being here thank you for being here music credits roll the credits where did you come from um i came i was in new york when you i remember that yeah yeah um i mean i grew up in dc in that area oh really in like uh virginia like out in the suburbs like Your dad in politics? No, everybody else's dad was. No, everybody else's dad near me worked at the Pentagon. Oh, really? And my dad was an airline pilot.

He was a pilot? Yeah. You look like a pilot. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. Thank you. You look like the idea of a pilot.

A lot of pilots look like perverts. Is that true? I think so. Do they marry women 11 years younger than them yeah and they wear like the bomber jackets you know and they got well they're all air force guys yeah and they got like weird mustaches yeah yeah bad haircuts and but they're the only ones that professionally need aviator glasses that's right they're the only ones legally that should have aviator glasses aviator sunglasses. Everybody else is like ripping them off. That's right. Yeah. So my dad flew out of what is now Reagan National Airport.

For what airline? An airline that is no longer around called Eastern Airlines. I remember Eastern Airlines. You remember Eastern? Yeah. Sure. So he flew for Eastern for like a million years. They had the shuttle.

That's right. Yeah. That's right. The Eastern shuttle. And they had their own building for a while over there at LaGuardia. That's right. Right? That's right.

Wow. You know a lot about Eastern Airlines. What they had their own building for a while over there at LaGuardia. That's right. Right. That's right. Wow. You know a lot about Eastern airlines, but what's your dad's name? Jerry. Oh shit. Jerry. Yeah. Jerry.

Jerry Hubel, the pilot. Bomber jacket. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. Uh, yeah. So,

so that's where we grew up and everybody else worked in, in, at like at the Pentagon. So a lot of kids were like, can't tell you what my dad does. Yep. For real. Yeah.

For real. Cause I don't even does. Yeah, for real. Yeah, for real. Because I don't even know. Yeah. I think that the, I don't know how that works. Like, I guess if your dad is like in the CIA or something, what do you tell your kids? I don't know.

You just say like, I work at a sporting goods store. Let your mom handle it. Yeah. Yeah, mom will tell you. Yeah. No, I don't know what they, I imagine they come up with some story that they can stick with. Yeah. good story but your mom handle it yeah yeah mom will tell you yeah no i don't know what i i imagine

they come up with some story that they can stick with you know yeah that yeah that but it's like what if the kids sort of like i want to will you take me to work with you yeah take your kid to work day yeah yeah you want to see me assassinate the southern south american dictator yeah dad this Yeah. Dad, this is awesome. Run. Run like hell. Just keep running. So you knew those guys, those kids. Yeah. I knew some of those kids. What did your mom do?

She work in the business? No. My mom took care of us mainly. And then when we got older, my mom went to work for PBS. How many kids were there? Just me and two brothers. I got an older brother and a younger brother. How much older? Just two years on either end pretty much. Yeah. How'd he were there? Just me and two brothers. I got an older brother and a younger brother. How much older?

Just two years on either end, pretty much. Yeah. How'd he turn out? So we were pretty close. They're all good. Yeah. Yeah, they're good dudes. And my little brother's married, and he has teenage kids.

Really? He got married way before me. My little brother got married right out of college and now has kids that are full-on teenagers with going through. I'm like, I don't know what to tell you, man. I have a one-year-old. Yeah. And so in a cool way, I can ask my little brother for-

Is he still married to the same lady? Yeah. Yeah. So he's like a solid dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Solid guy. Totally into it. What happened to the older brother? my older brother is an assassin no what no cia yep for the cia that's amazing uh no my older brother is uh is he lives in south carolina my

whole family lives in south carolina now oh except for you except for me yeah so i'm like the i'm like the black sheep but uh yeah my older brother is a photographer and kind of like doesn't really care that much about like money and doing, you know, kind of like. Artiste. Yep. Yeah, exactly. Huh. Exactly like you.

Yeah. Probably a lot like me. Does he have books like this? Let me look at some of your books. No, I just mean like, does he have a room like this? Yeah, he definitely has a room with books and he knows what books are. Yeah. Uh-huh.

That's good. For sure. That's different than you, right? Do you have a room with books, and he knows what books are. Yeah. That's good. For sure. That's different than you, right? Do you have a room with books? I don't. I don't. I have a book with magazines. I mean, I have a room with magazines.

Just tons of magazines. Mostly dirty magazines. So now, when you died, did you go up in the cockpit and stuff? I did, yeah. And this was all, obviously, before 9-11. But back in the day, free for all. It was a free for all. Yeah.

Like when we were little, you ride for free. You fly for free. Sure. The whole family, right? Yeah. So I had a little, basically like a little blank checkbook that you go up and you fill out the from two you know like where am i going you go up and you hand them the the coupon coupon depending on where you live and they just say okay have a seat we'll let you know if if there's room and so that's how we

traveled you know when i was little and uh but yeah for sure like my dad would take me on like my dad would try to like buddy up, you know, Hey, let's go on a trip. You know, I'm going to take this kid out on a trip. I mean, just me and you. Yeah. And so my dad would like take me on a, like a ski trip, you know, go out to wherever. And, uh, and, but my dad, I remember one time everybody's getting on the plane and, you

know, you get, you come down the jet way and you take a right and you go down to your seat. Yeah. Well, I came on and my dad like gave me a wink and he like smuggled me into the cockpit like i took a left yeah and got into the cockpit my dad's like get in the closet i was like what and i'm not mark i'm not joking my dad's like get in the closet be very quiet i was like okay so i'm sitting in like the little coat closet yeah in the cockpit of the Eastern Airlines plane. This is probably why Eastern Airlines is no longer around, by the way.

Because they got an extra seat in the cockpit for the guy. For like two or three. Yeah, yeah. It's called a jump seat. Yeah. And that's for like other pilots that are going to somewhere else. Yeah. Anyway, I like the voice you have for just anything that has to do with your dad.

Other pilots. Yeah. Super cocky yeah let's let's do a loop but uh but so my dad like smuggled me into the cockpit and was just like hang out here in the in the closet yeah and i'll bring you so then we took off and he's like okay it's a coast is clear so i came out and then it's just me in the cockpit with my dad and the co-pilot and back then yeah they had a third guy uh navigator right who would like decide okay let's go straight okay take a left so there's a pilot a co-pilot navigator and a jump seat that's right and i'm just i'm just sitting there yeah and well i would sit on the jump seat and uh so that happened a few times yeah and um so but it was like you said it was a free-for-all

like i remember some of some of my memories of it are like you know it's just a bunch of guys up there like talking locker room talk sure oh yeah talking about talking about flight attendants yeah you know and i i don't i i don't know what all went on out on the road you know yeah like i maybe my dad has another family you know possible very possible is he still around yeah yeah uh i don't know if he listens to the podcast are they still together uh uh no no no they got divorced uh but uh but thank you for asking well they're friendly they're friendly you know they're in their 80s and so they wow yeah they're friendly um but anyway did that come back around it did it did well yes they they go they went

through a uh a pretty you know horrible divorce yeah and then eventually i think you get to an age where you're like fuck it yeah i know you i'm not gonna kill you you know and it's like then they just like, now they're like, you put your guns down and it's just like, we're friends. In a way, you know. Yeah. You can't bring up certain things. Like you can't bring up like the divorce or like, you know, the rental house that you got in the divorce or whatever. Yeah. Yeah.

But keep that off the table. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep that off the table. But if you bring that stuff up, it all comes right back. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they go right back into it. I imagine. I can see that.

Yeah, that was stressful. If I start talking about divorces, I can lose it. How many, are you divorced one time? Twice. Three times? No, twice. Twice. The second time, though, that was the bad one.

That was the one that took. The first time didn't take. The first one I left. Oh, really? The second one I got left. You knew her. Didn't you know Misha? I did know her.

I didn't know her, but I knew that you were married to her. Because we were around in New York and here. Because I think we all got out here at the same time. So your parents are friends. That's nice. Yeah, it is nice. And you're friends with your siblings. And everything's good.

Everything's good. Flying around in planes. Flying around in planes. In the closets. Yeah. Well, what I was going to tell you, the button on the dumb pilot story was that uh it was such a free-for-all in the 80s back then i remember distinctly sitting up there with them and the uh like the navigator guy who's sitting over at the side you know like looking at the radar or whatever they're looking at had like pornography like like taped to his desk like like

the inside of a locker room and he would just you know once you take off it's just like all these centerfolds came down come on and you see like 70s bushes everywhere yeah yeah for real but this is the 80s but there's still women with 70s his plane i mean they i maybe that's a good point that is a great point bring that for what he couldn't get through a round trip until this moment i've never thought about it but that what you said is true he had to bring that pornography with him tape it under the desk tape it onto the thing but i'm telling you i remember all right naked pictures of like a couple of women, not a crazy amount, but like a couple naked pictures of ladies and be like, hey, guys, when you're not flying the plane, look

at this. Look at these boobs. That guy. Maybe he was like a character and they were just sort of like, oh, I'm going to have to fly with him. Yeah. Picture. Yeah.

Pervy Dave. Come on, Dave. Put him away. Put your thing back in your pants. Kid's here. Yeah. My son's here. Look at the window, boy. Look at that. Look at, put him away. Put your thing back in your pants. The kid's here. Yeah, my son's here. Look out that window, boy. Look at that.

Look at that cloud. Well, that's pretty exciting. Yeah, it was cool to have a dad that did that. I used to like walking through airports with my dad. He was in the uniform? Yeah. And you'd walk through and you'd be like, yeah,

my dad's the bus driver. But he was an Air Force guy? Yeah. He was an Air Force guy and a Marine pilot too. Yeah. In Vietnam? No. Somehow he missed Vietnam. I don't know.

Maybe he's like after. I don't know. I'll have to ask him. Before? Middle? I can't remember. I don't know. Might have just skipped his unit somehow.

But that's how he learned, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's. And now my little brother's a pilot. My little brother flies for U ups really no plug i don't know if you have you know if they're an advertiser i i had a ups guy over this today you did was it my brother i don't think so

he wasn't in a pilot he's in a brown truck the pilots do double duty the pilots yeah they'll land it was weird he did a plane landed yeah street yeah there he land. Yeah, it was weird. A plane landed on my street. Yeah, there he is. So he had a, was he in the Air Force? No. He just learned? No, he, yeah, I guess he was. He was. He was in the, but in the, like, the Air Force Reserves. That's what it was, yeah.

I was, I've never been in the military. Right. Have you been in the military? No, no. I would remember that. Yeah, I would remember it. Yeah, no, I was in the military. Have you ever, have you ever.

I think I'm, I think I'm over. Have you done a USO tour? I'm over the age now. Yeah, you might not qualify. No, not anymore. I have not done a USO tour. Oh, yeah. Have you?

Yeah, I did. I went to Iraq in 2007, me and Rob Riggle. Rob Riggle set it up. He's a Marine. I know. I've talked to Rob. Yeah. Yeah.

Solid guy. Marine guy. American. But a friendly guy. Yeah, very friendly. Midwestern. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, great guy. Marine guy. American. Friendly guy. Very friendly. Midwestern. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Great guy. And so he set it up. So we went over there, me and him and Horatio and Paul Scheer, and did a bunch of comedy for the troops. How was that? You know, you're welcome. You're welcome to the troops.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying now. Yeah. It's like 10 years later, and I'm still telling them you're welcome. Not thank you? Nope. You're welcome for the uh not thank you nope you're welcome for the comedy yeah uh no of course it was it was amazing it was incredible did they have did they enjoy it uh did they i think they did you know i it's it opens your eyes to uh

when you when you go over there you do see it's all um 18 year old dudes from like Alabama, you know? And, uh, and they are, we went over there during the Iraq. And you guys are sort of, uh, you know,

you're not standard standups per se. No, we, yeah, we went over there and did like a bunch of sketches and like, uh, making fun of the Pentagon. Uh huh.

And, uh, they actually told us like we could do whatever we wanted. So we had like a bunch of kind of like funny bits. And then we did like, uh, we threw a bunch of sketches together. We did some kind of dating game where we got a few guys up. And then Horatio might have come out in a wig. I don't know.

Really? But listen, I'll tell you is it killed. It did? It killed. Yeah? We killed in Iraq. Is that true? I can say that I killed in Iraq.

Is it true? I shouldn't say that. Is that true i can say that i killed is it true i shouldn't say that is it true uh i feel like the shows went went pretty well but only because there's they're they're really hungry for calm right but that's why you should go over there oh no but i mean like are you going to the smaller camp yes we went to uh so must it just be terrifying you guys like it was really scary we took uh black hawk helicopters everywhere we went for real and they took us to what are called uh fobs uh forward operating bases and we uh we went way way way uh in like i think like northern iraq right and uh it's not like the bob hope arena no no no we were sleeping in um we were sleeping in shipping containers they had like shipping containers and they like punched holes

in the in the in the thing for windows and then you containers and they like punch holes in the, in the, in the thing for windows. And then you, they had a couple of cots in there and I mean, it was, it was not comfortable, but they, uh, but they take good care of you. And then they, the main thing is like, you just get to meet all these people that are super psyched to have anyone come over there and entertain them. Well, yeah, definitely. Um, that's great, man.

Good for you doing that. Yeah. One time we were flying in a helicopter going to like the next place. Yeah. It was a really long trip. And it was like a two-hour flight. And so they open up the doors on the side. And so there's just hot wind blowing in.

Yeah. It looks like the old. Yeah. Sounds. Great sound effects. Great sound effects great sound what just what i did yeah dude you're wasting your time i know you gotta get into the sound i keep trying to get my agent to do there's no reason why we couldn't use that in movies there's no

why even why even put film in the camera even better that that? Even better. That's a motorboat, right? No. Jet ski? It's kind of, you know the sound, I don't know. As just a fart? No. It was a generic wind sound. Oh, gotcha. Yeah.

But so we were flying to the next base, and it was like a two-hour flight, and everyone was like trying to fall asleep. And, you know, they got a in in either door they have a guy on in the door with one of those big um guns on a on a stand you're like a you know huge machine that movie yeah it looks like uh apocalypse now yeah right so we're flying along everyone's like kind of half asleep and uh all of a sudden, you just hear someone on the helicopter just like, like the loudest machine gun. Someone's just spraying down the desert, hailing down a hellfire of artillery. And I look over.

I'm like screaming. Shear is screaming. Regal's screaming. I'm like screaming. Shear is screaming. Regal's screaming. And it's Horatio sitting there laughing his ass off, shooting the machine. I guess the guy, the gunner, was just like, yeah, come on over, man.

And let Horatio just light up the desert. Because there's nothing out there. There's just nothing. So Horatio's just like. It was terrifying. It was so scary but that's like my main memory that's like that guy did uh what your dad did yeah ratio yeah it's the same guy yeah you guys didn't know what was happening until it was happening i thought we were taking heat oh man so i can say i went uh you know in a

way i can say i've saw some action yeah i was i was in the shit yeah a little bit yeah so what did you go you went to college and when did you start doing the comedy yeah i i i went to new york um i always wanted to be in comedy but i was uh I didn't know how to do it. But did we skip something? Did you go to college? I went to college. Where? Did we skip something?

Yeah, I went to Clemson in South Carolina. Clemson. Go Tigers. How many schools have said that? I don't know if you're a- Go Tigers. I don't know. A lot of them.

A couple of them. Yeah. A couple of them. But no big deal we are the football national champions really currently you didn't know that what do i know about sports i don't know you're wearing a football jersey hey shut up don't tell people see i don't know i did you if you had answered the door in a football jersey yeah you would have been like what's happening yeah what are you a big sports guy not really no i follow play ball no i played soccer you know i'm a i'm a white guy yeah you

know i played soccer like what does that mean when i was little it's just like a suburban right it seems like a yeah contemporary suburban yeah but i mean you could have been a quarterback back in the day you're 48 thank you for saying that yeah i could have gone pro damn it but uh you know i played soccer in high school and, you know, it wasn't great. They didn't even have soccer in high school when I was in high school. It wasn't even invented then. I don't even think so. Yeah.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I just didn't know the teams we had. Yeah. A lot of people think that I'm a sports guy and I appreciate it. I really do. I don't know. Riggle is, right? Riggle is a. Maybe not. Yeah, he is. Yeah. I really do. I don't know. Riggle is, right? Riggle is a.

Maybe not. Yeah, he is. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think he might have played football and stuff. And he's a big sports fan, too. Oh, he is. Yeah, he's from Kansas City.

And he's. Right. He's weighing all those sports. Yeah, because I think I probably. I think he plays golf, too. I don't play. I don't really. I'm not good at golf.

I'm happy to hear this because I think I might have. Like, I had Riggle in here and i prejudged him yeah like you know he was probably not the kind of guy i would like in high school yeah but he got better i think well you know he's a nice guy genuinely a good guy for sure but you would think that um you don't realize uh the there's a lot of layers to him and uh and you don't realize that going into it you think like decent guy though yeah and i imagine some of those guys i prejudged even in high school might have turned out to be decent guys not many of them no not a lot i think it's a small number is there a chainsaw probably the guy comes around with the chainsaw sometimes are we in danger no he just he just runs down the street waving it around yeah we got to get the hell out of here we're like there's the

guy again mark we got every day four o'clock chainsaw man chainsaw man we got to get out of here i would say that's probably a guy with a leaf blower no that's a chainsaw is it we're in danger do you want me to let's just ride it out we'll see what happens i just want to know if it's going to stop and we'll have to go around shut all the fucking windows do you have like a uh what like a producer's assistant that'll go out there and and give him a hundred bucks to say you know like a shoot get out of here how do those conversations happen it's just sort of like you know you hear dogs well when you're on i think that's a racket i think that if you're filming a tv show a lot of people think like oh i can make a hundred bucks i'm sure they can by the way if you're listening to this

here's an easy way to make a hundred bucks and when you see people filming something crank up your start honking the horn start yelling that yard work with the loud equipment leaf blower out and then some guy kid will come over yes some 18 year old kid with a headset on hey man i'm so sorry to bother you is there any way you could not do that? We're rolling. People are like, oh, really? You're rolling? Because I'm trying to make my yard nice. You fuck.

I don't have any time during the week other than now to do this. Now's the time to blow my leaves. I'm sorry. You guys are just going to have to wait. How long are you going to be? Oh, at least an hour? Yeah. Hold on.

Let me talk to my boss. We were shooting something recently in a park out here in Los Angeles where we all live. And this old man came out and he said that we were on his property. And we said, no, no, no, no. This is a park. Yeah. And he said, no, no, no. All this right here, this is my property. And he wouldn't get out of the shot. He's a crazy man.

Yeah, he was a crazy man. Yeah. You pronounced it correctly. He's a crazy man. Crazy man. He's a wolfman. And so we offered to pay him, and he said, I don't want your money. We're like, really?

Like, what is this about? So we finally had to call the county tax assessor and have them email us the property and show him we're on a park. Really? Get out of here. It went that far? It took a long time. Oh, my God. I still don't know why.

I don't know what he wanted. If you're listening to this, you piece of shit. How did I get there? Oh, I know what this is all leading to. I'm going to have to close the windows. Okay. I'll fill time while you close the windows hey everybody

it's Rob Ewell listen Mark's outside so I'm gonna fill time call me on my cell phone right now 212 555

1218 oh you used the 555 number you're a professional I'm noticing this glow calendar you guys have calendars for your TV show. No, one of the cast members made that. The guy, yeah, Chris Lowell, who took a lot of pictures.

Yeah. Had those made. He's also on the show that you didn't watch. I'm going to watch it. I don't know. Do what you want, dude. It's your fucking life. I will watch it.

All right. So I went to college at Clemson. Tigers. That's how we got distracted played football didn't play football they are the national champions yeah no big deal you can catch them anytime every saturday what'd you study there marketing only because here's the thing i wanted to you didn't know what you i didn't know what i wanted to do i thought here's what i thought that's one of those majors, marketing. What does that mean? Management. What is that?

Seriously, what did you learn? What are even the classes? It's business. It's like, hey, how do we promote this product? Really? That kind of stuff. Sort of, in a way. That's a whole major?

That's a whole major. Consumer behavior. Why do people buy the things they buy? That's a whole major. That's a whole major. Consumer behavior. Why do people buy the things they buy? That's a whole major. That's a whole major. You go to class and they're like, what's going on with, why do people act like this in grocery stores? Is economics part of it? Yes.

You take economics? All that. Economics, finance, marketing. You did all that? Management. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you take it in? A little bit. Here's the thing. I wanted to at the time it's this is all going somewhere at the time i thought i i wanted

to um be in comedy but i didn't know how to do it so i thought oh you know what i'll do i'll get into advertising does that make sense like you'll go ahead copyright yeah that's right that's what i thought i thought i'd move to to New York and get into advertising. And you would write jingles and blurbs? Blurbs and bloopers. Jingles, yep. And what are those? Catchphrases. Catchphrases.

Yeah. How about a hamburger? Hey, let go of the beef. Hey, don't eat that. Hey. Eat this. Get that out of your mouth. Put this in your mouth.

Yeah. You weirdo. I like that one. Yeah. Get that out of your mouth. Put this in your mouth. Get that out of your mouth. Put this in your mouth. Yeah. That's mouth put this in your mouth yeah that's don't steal that people listening so uh i thought

i would work in advertising so because i didn't have the here's the here's the the lesson that i'm trying to uh get across today yeah i i didn't have the courage to say to myself why don't you just get into comedy and start writing jokes and Did you know that that was a possibility? I didn't know how you do it. Like, how do you do it? Like, you just start. You had no interest in doing stand-up. That seemed pretty scary to me.

And I'll tell you why. I remember going to, like, Luna Lounge. This was after college when you went to New York. This was in New York, yeah. I want to hear about the dark times of floundering. Floundering. Where you couldn't get a job in New York and everything was terrible. For real.

I thought I went to interview at- After college. Yep. So right after college, you're like, I'm moving to New York. Moving to New York. Yeah. More or less. I moved to Aspen, Colorado.

What'd you do there? Skied for a year. Wow. Nice. Tolerant parents, a little money in the bank. Good for you. I don't know what i think my parents thought go go ahead yeah good luck enjoy it how are you at the skiing really good

you want to see me yeah do it look at this video on my phone um it was a great time yeah um did you teach skiing no i worked in hotels i worked in hotels and at that time the aspen comedy festival was going on you remember that i was part of it what year uh this was like early 90s i was there 95 you were yeah i'm i missed you that was i was that was not a good year for me. But I bought tickets. Gary Shanley performed there when I lived out there. And I had front row tickets to Gary Shanley. Yeah.

And it was amazing. Yeah, I bet it was. Yeah. And I didn't know, but years later, me and Rob Riggle would go to the Aspen Comedy Festival with a little sketch show that we did. And that's how we got agents anyway. No big deal. Came full circle. Came full circle. Kind of. Yep. Totally did. comedy festival with a little sketch show that we did and that's how we got agents anyway no big deal came full circle came full sort of kind of came yep totally did but you at the time at the

time didn't know what i was doing it was like you weren't sitting there going i want to do that i wanted to do comedy didn't know how to get into it other than stand-up stand-up seemed too scary i didn't think what what what was i gonna do an average-looking white dude from the suburbs of like northern – You do look like that. Yeah. Like what are people going to do? Like, oh, that guy's got a hot take on stuff. But you knew you wanted to be funny.

But I knew that I could be funny and I felt like I could do it. But I didn't know until I got to New York. I hadn't seen improv before. So you go to Aspen for a year. You ski. You work at hotels. I ski. Work at hotels.

See Gary Shanling. See Gary Shanling. And then you're like, time for real life. Yep. Time for real life. So then I moved to New York and tried to get into advertising. Doesn't go well. How'd that go?

I'd like to hear some of those stories. Hey, I'm Rob. Hey, what's up? I'm Rob, and I want to work here. Oh, cool. Where else have you worked? Nowhere. Oh, cool.

Where are you coming from? I just lived in Aspen. Oh, cool. What do you mean? Yeah, I like to ski and smoke weed. Oh, okay. Get out of here. So that's sort of how that went.

Thank you. So that's sort of how that went when I wasn't, you know. So I floundered around. And at the time, I was living with a couple guys. And one of the guys had a girlfriend. I had roommates in New York. It was super poor. We're in Queens?

No. I lived with these investment. Everyone I lived with was making money. They were all like these investment banker guys. How'd you get hooked up with those guys? Like a friend of a friend. They said, hey, this guy's got a floor that you can sleep on. So I moved to New York and I lived in like, you know, some place on the Upper West Side,

but was sleeping under the stairs. Literally they had like, they didn't have a room for me. I slept under the stairs in this place. And I had like a little egg crate you remember those egg crate mattress like like in this room yeah like the the things that are soundproof these are my old mattresses no come on you could have done better why do we do that to ourselves because i literally had no money i moved to new york and i had no money no friends i i didn't know anyone i thought i'm gonna move to new york i'm gonna get into advertising i'm gonna

give myself a year i'm gonna give myself one year and i didn't know anything about new york i didn't know anyone. I thought, I'm going to move to New York. I'm going to get into advertising. I'm going to give myself a year. I'm going to give myself one year. And I didn't know anything about New York. I didn't know anyone in New York. So wild, right? I didn't know where I was going. That must have been sad times. Dude, I remember going.

I temped. I had temp jobs. Well, that's what I was going to tell you. My roommate's girlfriend worked at a temp agency. And she's like, all right, do you know, uh, uh, uh, Microsoft word? No. Do you know Excel? What do you know how to make a spreadsheet?

No, I don't know any of that. Can you, do you have a suit? No, I didn't have those things. So she would go, okay, here, go to this place tomorrow morning at nine o'clock don't be late you're going to answer the phones yeah and you know and so i would just go to these places and she would lie for me she would just say yep this guy who's coming in he's a real sharp customer and he knows he knows microsoft word and in excel and he can type type and i was like no i can't i remember i had a temp job at the time warner or

time life yeah and my job was inputting zip codes of people that subscribe to time magazine oh wow so they're like here you go and then one time i had a job at goldman sachs for a couple days and uh my van in there uh great dude yeah really great fun then yeah a really good guy how about that gary cone was he there he was probably there yeah he's probably up and coming guy but my job you know again like i would tempt for these people that their their receptionist was sick so they would send me in and i would be like hey what do you need steve and uh they'd be like i don't know staple this stuff and so they'd give me stuff to staple. And I remember, I distinctly remember barging into a very important meeting in a conference room in lower Manhattan and like Goldman Sachs.

And I had stapled all of these reports together. And I just said, hey, Steve, I'm done. I'm done putting all the reports together. All these guys in suits whip around and look at me like why are you in here we're a bank we're trying to solve you know we're trying to take money from people we are running the world yeah we're controlling the money we're controlling all the money everywhere and you're just you're happy with yourself get out of here so that's what i did for yourself yeah staples of things yeah so I did that for, like, I attempt for, like, a couple years in New York. And then I got-

And then you're on the bridge. And then I'm on the bridge. And some guy comes up to you and says, and starts an improv. Yeah. Yeah. I started taking improv classes in New York. And what drove you to do that? I saw my roommate at the time.

I had switched roommates now. Yeah. And my roommate knew. Did you have a room now? At this point, I had a room. Yeah, that's good. And I was living with a guy who was a funny guy, also trying to get his shit together, a guy named Mike Henry, who went on later to work for Family Guy.

And he created The Cleveland Show.veland show oh yeah really funny writer but at the time we're just broke dudes living in new york and he was just a friend of a friend and he said hey uh you should go see this improv show with me i'm gonna go see this improv show and it was uh that show uh ass cat that amy poehler at the old ucb yeah not even they didn't they hadn't even started the theater yet so it was like it uh they would do them in these little pop-up places right and uh so i went to see uh an ass cat and it was like tina fey and amy poehler and adam mckay and like uh john glazer and uh stephen colbert and like all these you know, big Chicago comedy future superstars who had just moved. They had all just moved to New York and we're getting it going. You know, I think some of them were, I think like I'm sure McKay was writing for SNL or something like that.

And anyway, I saw that show and changed my life. I was like, oh, that's what that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to do that. That's how you do it. That's how you do it. Yeah, that's how you do it. If you don't want to just stand up that that's how you do it that's how you do it yeah that's how you do it if you don't want to just stand up that's how you do it yeah and and they hadn't even gotten the theater together yet but when they uh a few couple

weeks later i think they started this theater and started doing classes and i was like yep the one the original one the one with the weird seats the old the old strip bar that's right yeah there's an old strip bar on on the tent and they got the seats from the bus terminal or something yeah yeah yeah yeah and uh it was an old strip bar and uh they used to get a lot of weirdos coming in there

looking for strip shows and we'd be doing you know improv and sketch shows and people want to jerk off yeah and you'd be like no no no

they got it had turned away a lot of orthodox jews the chesedim used to come that's true you've heard that story yeah it is true

yeah there's for some reason, a lot of Hasidic Jews would come into the theater looking for strip shows and we'd be like, Oh, and some of them would stay for the car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You've heard that story. Yeah. I've heard a couple of versions of it. Yeah, it's true. It's true. And, but we used to have to like go out on the street and,

uh, hand out flyers on that street. No, we go down to union square and other, cool places you know the east village and we try to hit up college students to come to our improv and sketch shows right i remember which street was it on though like 20 20 second street yeah that's right so and that's how we would get people to come see our shows and i was the one like matt lived at top of it. Yeah, Walsh. Yeah, Walsh lived upstairs. Lived above the theater. Yep.

Yeah. And so we would just try to pack the house. And at that time, it's not like it is now where there's like a million people trying to do shows there. It was like, we need shows, you guys. You know, Walsh and Besser and Amy and Ian, they'd be like, you guys write a show. Put up a show tomorrow you know yeah so we would just throw up shows and really it was like that yeah it was really like um you had they needed time filled they needed time filled yeah i mean literally if you had an idea for a sketch show

you could do it but were you taking classes or just hanging out yep taking classes it was the original four teaching yep and that was it that was it that was it and then uh and then like you know a year later or a couple years later you would start like i started teaching there and so i started teaching improv who'd you take with uh i tried to only take with ian i took i took a class with besser and with amy they were great but when i got in with ian that was my dude yeah yeah and you know ian went on to like write on uh i think he i think he was a showrunner maybe on key and peel but like there's something about him that he's a machine he always scared me yeah he's yeah he's one of those guys that's like intimidated me yeah he's like he's kind of a yeah he's out of all of them yeah couldn't get a handle on that guy yeah you can't

get a read on him yeah yeah but uh but but comedy wise was a machine and knew how to make any improv scene funny. And like you would do, you know, when you would take classes with him, you would do a terrible, terrible fucking improv scene, just a disaster. And he'd be like, OK, here's what you said. And then here's where it went. And this is where it took a bad turn. And he was so like analytical about it and scientific about it he could show you this is where it went off the rails if you had just gone in this direction right that would have made sense and then you guys would have had a funny scene right and that was but you can't

control that shit in the moment no no no no no you just have to fail dude like we i'm telling you man i feel bad for all of the people that came to early shows that we did so many horrible right horrible shows yeah but but you know you you do learn very quickly oh that that was bad but that still happens for sure there's got to be plenty of shitty shows yeah for sure but but less so as you you know you figure it out. Like eventually you figure out like, oh, these are the people I want to perform with. These are the guys that I think are funny. Well, I guess now, you know, you do enough of the sort of class-driven shows. Like there's not a desperation for shows anymore.

I imagine you guys are probably out in front of audiences, regular audiences, before you were probably ready. For sure. For sure. And people will be like, oh, boy. were probably out in front of audiences regular audiences before you were probably ready for sure for sure and people be like oh boy people leave there and be like what was that you know yeah i mean that's why so many people think that improv is bad because like probably because of me yeah you know it's just that's all i hear and the guys that i came up with like i don't like improv i don't because of rob hubel rob hubel thank you for calling me steve wow do you have a brother named steve no where did steve come from i don't know why did i callel. Rob Hubel. Thank you for calling me Steve. Wow. Do you have a brother named Steve? No. Where did Steve come from?

I don't know. Why did I call you Steve? I love it. Rob. Steve. I'm going by Steve. Steve Hubel. Please tweet at me at Steve Hubel.

Please. I know who you are. So that's how- And you started teaching? So I started teaching improv classes. And then right about that time, I started doing commercials. Some commercial agent started scouting. The theater started to get a little bit of heat on it.

Who's there now at that point? At that point, it was like Corddry, Ed Helms, Andy Daly, Riggle, Shear. And they all came up through the ranks. They all came up. Yeah. We all started around the same time. It's amazing. But what,

what changed, uh, things for me was, uh, I got a commercial agent and then I started getting commercials. And then that just gives you some, some, uh,

ability to tread water. Yeah. Yeah. So I, so I national commercials. Yeah. So I got really lucky in that water. Yeah, yeah. So I... Like national commercials? Yeah. So I got really lucky in that world and that kind of bought me some time. Did you get on a roll with him?

I did, yeah. You were that guy on the commercial for a while? Yeah, yeah. There's that guy again. That was your credit. That was my thing, yeah. I had a commercial in New York that they used to play before the movies

and it was called inconsiderate cell phone man and it was just me being a jackass on my cell phone talking really loud this is to tell everyone to be quiet telling everybody yep to turn your phone there's a movie commercial that's right it's a movie commercial so that was like my first like one of my first pain so you're walking around new york and people like dude dude. Dude, hey. It considerates. No, everybody said like insensitive cell phone. No one could ever get it right. Right, right. So, but yeah, so that was my thing for like a few people.

Everybody called me that. It was great. So you're improvving, you're making money doing commercials that you're not comfortable with, but you can't fight it. No, you can't fight it. And of course, everyone in that world is sort of like, no, it's good, dude. It's great. Yeah. Yeah.

I did a really embarrassing, like utterly humiliating Olive Garden commercial that it was really, because I used to try to only do the funny ones. I would just go out for the funny commercials. Right. And, um, and like you said, I got on kind of a role and, but then I did this one for Olive Garden. It was like strangely sincere. And, um, they were like, they, they tricked me. They let me, they, I came in and they're like, Hey, uh, we, you know, you're funny and you can just improvise, do whatever you want. Right.

Do whatever you want. So let me do that like all day long. And then like, they wore me out and I got really tired. And then at the end of the day, they go, Hey, let's just,

just for fun, just for me. Do a serious one. Do a serious one. Yeah. And I was like, uh, what do you mean?

Like, yeah, just totally like dramatic. And, uh, and say the waitress will come over and give you like your, your soup salad and breadsticks. Yeah.

And she'll say, Hey, what are you, what are you guys here for? Are you guys celebrating? And then you look at her and you go, no, it's just Monday, but say it real sincere like that. And I was like, okay. So I did that. And then the commercial came out and, uh it's really it was really just that just really straight like looking right into the camera yeah and uh i was and the the idea was like

olive garden is always good it's always good you don't have to celebrate yeah you can come here on just that's when most people go to all of them. Yeah. It's usually for birthday parties and weddings. It's just a casual place to eat on Mondays? Or just Mondays. Wow. So I was upset about that. Did people judge you for it? A lot of people started making fun of me.

With the Just Mondays wine? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you celebrating? Yeah, and people say, hey, what is it? What day is it? And I'd say, just Monday. Yeah, it was a bummer. Yeah.

But it's hard to, you know, it's hard to. You learned your lesson. I learned my lesson. Don't ever, don't ever. Not be funny. Not be funny. When they tell you to, hey, you want to try one just for me? That's when they're lying to you.

Yeah. That's the one they're going to use. That's the one they're going to use. So when did you start making movies and television? Well. Wait and aziz and me and aziz and paul did uh this mtv show we got our own tv show on uh mtv this is back when is mtv still on i think it's still i don't know you know does your girlfriend know no does your wife know oh how dare you how dare you i think it is on still uh but what you did but i'm looking at your credits but you oh yeah you were you did some shit with the upright citizens brigade when they had the show on comedy central yeah yeah yeah but

total just like background like you know what'd you do for the awful truth oh i was a producer yeah with michael moore michael moore how did that happen well um it was all interconnected a friend of mine from ucb uh was working on for michael moore and he said hey um do you want to pitch michael moore some uh some comedy ideas field pieces some field pieces yeah and. Yeah. And so I said, yes, you know, for sure. And I was a big fan of Michael Moore's movies. And so I just sat down and I wrote all these,

you know, ideas for field pieces, send them to Michael Moore and just somehow got lucky. And he was like, yep, these are funny. Let's meet this guy. So,

uh, that was when I was doing commercials and everything. Yeah. And, uh, all simultaneously. Yep. All the show too. Yep. So, so then the daily show came right after that. I got, we did a few of those. Only commercials and everything. Yeah. All simultaneously. Yep. The Daily Show too?

Yep. So then the Daily Show came right after that. You only did a few of those. Only did a few, yeah, for like six months. It was during the first Bush election. That was when I was at the Daily Show. Why didn't it stick? Why weren't you? Well, because I wasn't very good.

I wasn't a very good field producer at the Daily. It was hard for me because back then, you remember how the Daily Show used to be? Like way back, you would go out. it john stewart yeah oh but way back before they figured out you know what they before they really hit their stride i think politically yeah they would do those funny field pieces where you would kind of go out with the correspondent and you kind of like a little bit make fun of the person you try to find a weirdo that was out there, you know, drilling for oil in his backyard.

Right. And you'd go out there and you'd kind of make fun of him a little bit. Well, that's kind of when I was there. And then after that, Bush got elected and they were like, we're not doing this anymore. And John, I think John was like, we're not going to make fun of people. Like now let's get political, you know. So that's Bush, too.

Yeah. With once he got W. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so once that happened, then they the show kind of shifted and they sort of became, you know, super political. And they didn't really do those kind of field pieces anymore. And but also, I just wasn't very good at it.

It field produced. And it said that you like here i'm looking like mackinrow you did that oh man i think i appeared on that show on the john mackinrow yes it's very possible uh i feel like i did yeah we had a friend that said hey why don't you guys come out here to the john mackinrow comedy show uh you know john mackinrow is a nice guy yeah question mark and uh and he they gave him a comedy show yeah like a syndicated syndicated talk show i remember who else was on that because i remember doing it and being like oh you work here yeah me well me and sheer were there writing jokes for john mackinrow which was tough that's a tough job to try to write jokes for uh a tennis pro you

know and i remember the whole thing felt stilted. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the guests would come on and we'd be like, hey, here's a funny idea for you and John. And we would try to write a sketch for the guest and John. And it would never go well. But that was like a very short-lived show. But again, back then I was just like, yeah, if I can make a check, get a paycheck.

But you're also doing funny movies, little things. Well, then I just started to pop up. Like through UCB, I started to get little breaks. Like McKay started directing movies. Right. And you knew him at UCB? I knew him from the comedy world at UCB. Yeah.

And you knew him at UCB? I knew him from the comedy world at UCB. And so I started to get little, little cameos in the other guys, Will Ferrell, stuff like that. And so I started kind of popping up doing that. And then around that same time, me and Paul and Aziz did Human Giant. And that kind of opened up a lot of doors for us in the comedy world.

We started getting more opportunities on sitcoms and stuff like that. It kind of blew up and it helped aziza stand up yeah yeah so long weird mullet hair yeah yeah and then paul he didn't have any hair he didn't have any hair at that point and you had your white guy hair and my white guy hair is it all about the hair but that show you love guys haircuts i do i take it in but that uh but that show helped us out a lot that show helped uh us kind of all get going you built that at ucb we um we would test yeah we would go out with our we had we use the same director the guy that created the show this jason wallner who's super funny smart writer and director and he did other shows like Eagle Heart. I know that guy.

Yeah, I know Jason. I interviewed him. Yeah. So we would go out and we would shoot sketches. And then we would take them to UCB. We would show them in front of a live audience. And if it got a laugh, then we would put it in the TV show. So that was a great, easy way to sort of test.

Best way to do it. Yeah, just show. David Sedaris does that oh really with his writing oh you just do a live reading yeah you know and he'll like you know tweak things yeah so okay so it all takes off so that so yeah so that's how that's how it went career-wise with uh with human giant yep and that got me going that got me going and then the other big thing is uh children's hospital children's Hospital. That was big. That was just friends. That was Corddry was a friend.

But you did a lot. That's a lot of episodes, dude. Yeah. Yeah. It was great. But Mark, those are 15 minute episodes. That's not in syndication. I haven't seen those.

That's no money. I haven't had a money gig like you. I haven't had one of these sweet, cushy podcast deals. What about The League? I was in like 10 episodes of The League. That's not bad. Where was my money gig this the podcast well it seems like you've had some pretty good gigs well yeah transparent has

been great i do uh you're good in that transparent now you don't watch it i did i watched your first season you did yeah oh thanks i thought it was good because you know you were aggravated the first season yeah and you get to be it's fun to do for me more serious stuff because you know i've done a lot of like jackasses and obnoxious guys and just kind of idiots, which I love. And I'm, I feel, you know, it's in my wheelhouse, but it's fun to do a show where like, oh, this writing is really good. Oh yeah.

And you can just like, and just be in it. Just say these words. Trust it. Yeah. Yeah. And you just like, you know, oh, is this the script? Hey, good job, man. Yeah.

That's how I felt about glow. Yeah. Yeah. Where you don't feel like, oh, I, I'm not going to gonna say that that's not the way i would better make this funny yeah yeah yeah yeah so that's what's great about transparent is like it's the writing is really good and the directing like they just make it look amazing it is you know it's a it's a ballsy show thank you for saying that but uh yeah and also you were good in the descendants that was a good part yeah it's fine gotta gotta you gotta pretty good pretty good pretty good people in that movie

clooney yeah yeah he's pretty good was that intimidating uh yeah and alexander payne directed that movie so yeah he's good but you don't want to be the weak link in that movie you know like i i got to go out to hawaii where they shot it or i show up and it's Clooney and it's and it's Alexander Payne who's like the best director in the world and then like me. Right. And so I was like,

oh boy. Yeah. Hope I don't drop the ball. So. I thought you did good. Thanks, buddy. We're not done talking about Clooney. So you mean Clooney.

Nice guy. I mean Clooney. Nice guy. And I thought that very personable guy seems like it like you know and you know when you're shooting those things and you're uh in between um scenes you're just hanging out you're sitting around in someone's house yeah where you're shooting and you're just sitting on a couch next to george cluny and and i remember at one point we were both on our phones

and we're looking at our phones and i thought like, I'm just going to ask him for his phone number. Like, I'm just going to say, Hey George, what, you know, would I should, we should have drinks, but I lost my nerve. I didn't do it. I had it. I was, had you talked to him previous or have you been talking? No, I just would have been kind of the first, it would have been the first, you know, meet that meet a guy you hang out for a few days and he seemed but he's really cool he's super funny yeah he's super he's always doing pranks you know everybody says that and he is you know he's always playing pranks the person we hadn't talked to him that much no but but i woke up one day and i went

into my trailer and uh there's a bucket of uh urine. And it was above my door and it poured. Wouldn't that be great if he was like pranking me for no reason? Really gross, like aggressive. Grass pranks. Like just a bucket of shit. Yeah, yeah. Hey, man, I put a bucket of shit under your couch. I know that feeling, though, because I'll talk to people in here and I don't know how people see me.

Everybody says you're a prankster. Well, what position i hold in in the world because sometimes i'm like you want me to just email you that stuff or you should i call or have someone call your assistant like so you're kind of fishing around like right do i get your number but i was like who should i get in contact with yeah like we can just call me i'm like oh, oh, shit. Oh, wow. I'm going to get Jon Hamm's phone number. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Do you ever do that? And then I just bother him.

Do you go through it? And I just like text and text. Hey, bro. What's up? Ham. How's it going? You up? I never, I very rarely will text any celebrity that I've ever, unless.

I would like to go through, that would be a great episode of the podcast where we just go through your phone and we don't give out the numbers, but we see who they are. Do you want me to get it? Who you got? If you have your phone handy, I wouldn't mind a sampling.

That'd be fun. Hold on. Okay, I'll fill time. Hey guys, Mark's going in the other room. And so what I wanted to do was tell you that you can call me on my phone anytime I'll pick up I swear to god

I'll pick up 212-555-1212 call me right now we can chat we can talk be cool have you been drinking all day no I did have

a i came from another podcast where they said do you want a beer and i said yeah oh because i just smelled it and i was like what's he up to wait you smell right beer on me just now no is that is that for real yeah i smell a little beer oh gross um let's do yours too what do you got okay are we gonna go through our phones why i mean i guess so isn't that the game are we coming up with a uh new segment on the show let's go we don't have segments but let's see let's see who okay i'll say one then you say one okay wait wait wait let me catch up i'm i'm in a's okay uh i got a i got a i got a ryan adams uh wow, uh, you're going, you're going, you're going big. Uh-huh. Um.

Nothing in A's for you? I got a Pam Adlon and a Steve Agee. I got Curtis Armstrong. Who's that? Man, booger from Revenge of the Nerds. Okay. I do. I got his number.

I think I won that one. No. Who did you have? Ryan Adams? I had a Pam Adlon, Ryan Adams, and Steve Agee. That's a track. I have Steve Agee. Oh, you have Steve Agee. I have Steve Agee. Do you have Steve Albini? Uh. You don't. have ryan adams i had a pam adlon ryan adams and steve agee that's a track i have steve agee oh you have steve agee i have steve agee do you have steve albini uh you don't nope i have arsh barker

oh that's pretty good yeah i have uh let's keep going dave alvin no yeah i'm done oh i got aziz i've got scott ackerman i have aubrey plaza oh that's pretty good i got some good ones oh you so you're oh wait a minute i got a carlos Alsrocki, and I've got a Jonathan Ames. I think I might- Jonathan Ames is my neighbor. Oh, yeah? You live up there? Yeah.

What else? He's a great guy. I got- I don't know. But see, some- Leo Allen. I got Leo. That's pretty good.

I got Akiva. But you know, Leo Allen actually lives in my old apartment in Astoria. Is that true? Yes, it is. No, he lives out here. Oh, he moved? Yeah, he lives out here. Oh, he moved? Yeah, he lives out here. I have his ease too.

Are you worried that people are going to listen to this and think we're dicks? Yeah. Oh, boy. Do you have a Judd Apatow? I have Judd Apatow. No. I have Fiona Apple. Whoa.

Fred Armisen. Oh, shit. Will Arnett. Oh, I got Arnett. Wait, hold on. I got Arnett. Tom Arnold. Wow.

Uh-huh. Wow. That's who I am. Is it true that Tom Arnold has the tapes of Donald Trump saying racist things? He says he does. No, he doesn't. I have Dave Attell. That's a good one.

I have the guy. I have Aukerman. I have a guy named Brent from Mastodon. Do you know the band Mastodon? I have his phone number. Hank Azaria. You got Hank Azaria? You got a good one.

I got a Bob Balaban. Wow. You're doing... But you... I think you... Maria Bamford. I feel like you aggressively solicit these. Lance lance bangs elizabeth banks sorry elizabeth banks yeah but i think that's not a real one a listers i think that i think that's like a contact i got tony collette i can look

i got tony collette that's good that's good rob corddry uh-huh terry cruz whitney cummings i got that um these are great i got a how about i got alexandra daddario from baywatch do you know her that's pretty good rosanne barr that's a good one yeah that's a good one i got dad i got a todd barry you got dad i got i got your dad's phone number that's good i got andy daly oh that's good i'm jumping ahead to the Ds. Wow. How'd you get? I got Ed Begley. I got Rob Delaney. That's pretty good. I got a Delaney.

Dude, Patrick Dempsey. Oh. I got Patrick Dempsey. I like that guy. Yeah. I have two Lake Bells. Yeah, me too. Well, I have one Lake Bell.

I don't know. I got a Richard Belzer. Wow. Yeah. Hey, wait. Hold on. I got Rachel Dratch. Wait.

Hey. Annette Bening. Wow. Wow. I don't know how much longer we should do this are we starting to sound like dicks i think we sounded like dicks and we said hey yeah what famous people do you have in your phone someone's people are at work listening to this podcast going fuck these guys the weird thing is a lot of these are i'm just looking at names and i might eat like uh teddy bergeron let's do like some of the ones that maybe i got greg fitzsimmons oh i have dead people in here oh who shelly berman oh don't call that number there's a lot i gotta get rid of here yeah well yeah i don't

ever do that i mean either like and it's crazy i've passed like two dead people yeah and yeah john krasinski i got mike chickless i don't have Krasinski um I'll give it to you thanks Lizzie Kaplan Dane Cook Tom Lennon Dane Cook yeah you know the next step of this is let's call these people one quick oh you know what I'm gonna skip ahead I have Will I am's phone number oh that's a that's a good one I'm going I'll skip ahead I have Alexander Payne's phone number let's call him well you were in the movie. Okay, I win. Jean-Claude Van Damme. You do?

End of game. You do. Yep, I do. That's the end of this game. Jean-Claude Van Damme. Oh, nope. David Wayne. I beat myself.

Hold on. I'll beat both of them. Bob Saget. Wow. Yeah, Saget. I don't know him. Nice guy? Yeah, great guy.

I have Kristen Wiig's number. We could call her right now. How about Tom Sharpling? Do you have Kristen Wiig's phone number? Yeah. Do guy. I have Kristen Wiig's number. We could call her right now. How about Tom Sharpling? Do you have Kristen Wiig's phone number? Yeah. Do you want it? No. Maybe after.

You know, I love her. I can't say that we're pals. I think we're neighbors. I mean, we're pals, but I don't see her very often. Why do you have her phone number? I did a table read for her. I have her phone number, too. So never mind.

Man, this is not a competition. It isn't. I thought that's why we did it. Do you mind if I take this idea and I start my own podcast called Contactless? Yeah, do it. The thing is, I don't call or reach out to any of those people because I'm terrified. Me too. I'm too intimidated.

Why would you do it? Why would I call them? I'm not going to call Alexander Payne. All right, so wait. What's this new show? Let's get out of here. The new show I did is called Do You Want to See a dead body yeah and it's on youtube red and um what's the premise well did you ever see the movie stand by me yeah okay so it's a bunch of kids uh good they go out

in the woods and they they know about a dead body the whole movie is getting to the dead body that's right yeah jerry o'connell shout out and uh so i did a tv show based on that but a comedy version of that where i take different uh famous people out to find a dead body a different dead body every week and uh and that's the setup of the show it's scripted it's not like a reality show or anything like that you're not fooling them into thinking you know where a real dead body is no although jeffrey tambor wanted to do the show and uh we couldn't work it out for uh he wanted too much money no that's not true he uh just schedule wise but he asked me he did ask me i thought it was adorable he said um can i ask how these people died and i said oh jeffrey it's

not actually a dead but like well you know it's either actors pretending to be dead or you know we get like one of those csi like you know uh decomposing you know fat guy you know, it's either actors pretending to be dead or, you know, we get like one of those CSI, like, you know, decomposing, you know, fat guy, you know, that washed up on the beach, something like that. And he said, ah, now I get it. So he wanted to prepare. He wanted to prepare, you know, like, well, how am I going to behave when I see this person? So it's not really about, you know, there there's no we don't ever know how the person got killed no one ever asked me how i know where all these bodies are yeah it's just an absurd premise for uh for hanging out with somebody you know so it's me and like uh you know we shot a

bunch of these episodes they're all like 15 20 minutes but but it's like Adam Scott, all the people I just read to you in my phone. The funny crew. The funny crew. Rob Corddry, Randall Park, John Cho, Terry Crews, Lil Rel, Judy Greer, Michaela Watkins. I love her. Yeah. So it's all of our funny friends going out a really dumb uh quest to find a different dead body with me how'd it come out uh it's my favorite thing like i've ever done okay it's really so dumb

and so funny because it's it's for youtube red which is like their pay yeah version i think you pay like i don't know 10 bucks or something and they literally were a year uh i think forever and uh and they but they were just you know it's a new it's one of those new platforms so they're like yeah uh we want people like they're trying to get people that are not youtube stars to do shows there so you know they're like you mean people that people have heard of yeah so they're like do whatever you want say whatever you want so you know it's the craziest show I've ever done. And it's just super funny.

Like, it has nothing to do with anything. There's no commentary on the real world or politics or anything. It's literally just me one-on-one with someone else. And we're both acting like idiots. Oh, that's great. And it's super fun, yeah. That's just pure funny. Yeah, thank you. Well, I didn't see it. Thank you. someone else and we're both acting like idiots oh it's great and it's uh super fun yeah that's just pure funny yeah thank you well i didn't see it thank you you think my name is steve

it's been great talking to you steve i enjoyed it um so don't steal my giant marvel i'm not going to i am going to steal this knife no no you can't take in this hammer no there's a lot of there's a unusual amount of weapons in here. I will say, for a guy that interviewed the President of the United States. They took them all out. They took out the hammer? Yeah, and the knife. And the knife?

Sure. Did you play the guitar? I don't remember. No. You didn't say, hey, hey man. Let's hang out. Hey man, you want to hear me riff? Yeah.

Let's sing. I don't do that. Only with guitar players sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Who's the most famous person you ever played with? I play... You can say anybody. Look in your phone. I played with Jimmy Vaughn

recently. That was exciting for me. Wow. The most famous person I ever played... But are you going to go pro? No. Guitar wise? I don't think I can. No. Too late? I mean, I'd like to play with people and I played with somebody recently, but I found it a little intimidating intimidating i kind of pussed out yeah ever you ever play on stage with people like in sort of like a live aid yeah play with grant lee phillips you know and mark rivers and what like farm aid not a farm aid no it was a greg barron's uh used to do a yeah

yeah bring the rock thing yeah yeah where you tell a story and then play yep yeah i'll put together a great band. I play with Brendan Small. Wow. And that crew. Oh, wow. Those guys are. Yeah, but it's good to play with good guys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He used to do a similar type of show. Yeah. Does your girlfriend, does she enjoy it when you play or is she annoyed when you play? She's fine with it. She doesn't like when I do it while we're watching television. Right. Even if it's electric, not plugged in.

But you don't whip out your guitar and play for her, and she's like... Oh, no. She gets emotional. No, no, no. Yeah. No. At the beginning, you do that. Yeah. And then you put it away.

And then once it's like... Once you're like, I'm pretty good at this, right? She's like, yeah, you're pretty good. Yeah, stop playing. That's done. Please stop playing. Smoke on the water. That's done. Please stop playing. Smoke on the water. You're great.

Please stop playing smoke on the water. Please stop playing your dumb blues noodling. Yeah. All right. Well, I'm glad everything worked out with your kid and that things are good for you. And it was, again, great talking to you, Steve. Thank you for having me, Jim. Okay.

See, I told you that was fun. I never hung out with him. Now I feel like we should hang out more. I don't know if that'll happen. Yes, I could play a little guitar. Clean, though. I'm going to play clean. All right?

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