WTF with Marc Maron Podcast - Episode 914 - Melissa McCarthy

Episode Date: May 9, 2018

Before comedy and acting were ever on Melissa McCarthy's radar, she was like a lot midwestern teens trying to find herself. She tells Marc how her cheerleading years were followed by a partially-shaved head and goth makeup. The search for an identity led to acting, which led to New York, which led to LA, which led to an all-star class at the Groundlings. They also talk about how she met her husband, how she got cast on Gilmore Girls, how Bridesmaids came to be, why she played Sean Spicer on SNL, and what went into making her new movie, Life of the Party. Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Lock the gate! All right, let's do this. How are you, what the fuckers? What the fuck buddies? What the fucking ears? What the fucksters? What the fuckadelics? I am Mark Maron. This is my podcast wtf i'm a little my brain is not quite i don't know why but it's not working

right i don't know why i can't i can't answer that question welcome to the show i am on the road i am away i am in a i'll tell you where i. I don't know if I can tell you what I'm doing, but I'm in Birmingham, Alabama. Birmingham, Alabama. It doesn't always bring up good memories. Rarely, historically, not a great memory place. Today on the show, I talked to Melissa McCarthy. That was fun. She's fun.

She's funny. Nice lady. She's a nice lady, that Melissa McCarthy. So back to Birminghammingham you know the ghosts of the past of this city are around and and you can choose to fester on whatever you're going to fester on but it always feels heavy for me i'm not indicting anybody currently but uh but you know the the south's history is is heavy And I'm going to hopefully get around and see some stuff. I'm here doing a project. I'm going to be here a while.

Well, a little while. I mean, I'm not going to live here. But it was long enough for me to go out. Yesterday I went out to the Birmingham Whole Foods. So that's here. That's good. That's, you know, it's not primitive here. It seems very pleasant. I've been here a day. But I went out and I stocked up for a few days,

which is a good thing to do. Unfortunately, I got back to my room and I, it seemed to be like almost a challenge to myself that I eat everything that I bought for a few days. And I got pretty good into it, pretty well into it, pretty far along. And that includes a box of puffins and some packets of almond butter. I bought almond butter packets, portion control. There's no lockbox on those bad boys. You know what I'm saying? I got four of them. I've eaten three, but I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to explore. I'm thinking about, I have a day off today and I believe I'm going down to witness, to bear witness, and to take in the new Peace and Justice Memorial with the very powerful and disturbing lynching monument. I want to go see that because I don't know how often or when I'll be back down here again.

I want to go take that in. I want to learn something. I want to feel something. I want to see something put together in remembrance of something horrible. I don't always want to do that. I guess, why would you? But it's important that you do. I mean, I know some of you listen to the show pretty regularly, and I did avoid Holocaust memorials of different sorts when I was in Europe, particularly Amsterdam. I made that choice to ride a boat and look around at the pretty things and learn a little bit about things, a little bit on a boat just drifting through the city. And I think that's how a lot of us drift through life. You know, we know there's bad stuff,

but man, let's just keep the boat moving. There's only so much I can do from here on my boat. So I'm just going to stay on the boat, maybe do a little fishing, maybe take a nap, maybe see the sights, but just stay adrift. Sometimes you got to engage. I'm going to engage. I want to.

I want to learn. I want to feel. That's a new thing. I always do. I always want to feel. I don't always want to learn. I did get some interesting. I got one really poetic and I thought very concise email that made me feel.

It was a nice punch punch nice punch in the head uh just the subject line just says fan and uh the copy is uh i think you're a pretty impressive comedian you make me laugh about the things that make you sad without glorifying them and you make me think about the things that make me sad without glorifying them and you make me think about the things that make me sad without forcing me to feel them that's it that's the email very succinct very to the point but i think uh that i think that was that's the best i can do on some level you know help it you know i don't want people you know if they're adrift and they're doing okay. And, you know, I don't have to sink their boat with my problems.

And I can at least have some distance from them enough to discuss them in a way that doesn't, you know, break down their ability to maintain their own shit and hold that together. That's entertainment, right entertainment right oh i wanted to pick up a little business i don't know if i brought it up last time but a lot of people when i talked about ben and jerry's for some reason and brought up the flavor thing got a lot of suggestions for the flavor uh what the fudge obviously seems to be the flavor i do not think that that's going to happen i also want to thank a lot of the people that got back to me with suggestions and ideas for traveling and alleviating my colonic fear or whatever it is that apparently it's a common problem that people can't shit on the road or when they're traveling a lot. And thank you for all those suggestions. I'm not going to share them but but they were there and i appreciate your support also thank you for the support around uh my cat lafonda who uh who

is who is better i did have to you know i was only home for a week i got her taken care of and now uh the fella staying at my house is dealing with it but i i think uh you know it's weird when cats get old and i guess that when you have cats and you leave for a little while even if it's for a week or two uh they they don't uh they i don't think they process the idea oh he's packing he'll be back i think once you're out you're out and they're alone and they they they stress out you know much like uh maybe emotionally like not even emotionally like a a child whose parents just, without saying anything, disappear and then just reappear two weeks later. But they're getting a little old for that. But I can't, I don't know that I really can completely build my life and honor my cat's anxiety in the

sense that I do have to go out and live a life. I can't just, it would be weird if I just quit doing all my traveling and all my gigs in other places because I didn't want my cats to be stressed out. It's not beyond me. Certainly, sometimes I could use an excuse not to go places, but I'm not going to do that. But thank you for the suggestions around La Fonda's health in terms of maybe getting a vet that comes to the house. That's a good idea. Now I'm sweating. It's humid down here, man.

It's like Friday, the first day of work. It's going to be 90. So I can't tell you anything about what I'm doing, really, but I can say that we're going to have to write in pit stains and profuse sweating, constant sweating. That's something I'm going to have to write in pit stains and profuse sweating, constant sweating. That's something I'm going to have to add to the character, that I'm sweating. Yeah. Now I told you a few things. I think you're probably putting something together. That's fine. That's fine.ccarthy has a new uh a new movie out which i watched it's called a life of the party it opens in theaters tomorrow may 11th uh her she wrote it with her husband and he directed

it and we talk a little bit about that and we talk about uh i talk to her like i talk to people this is me and melissa mcc McCarthy back in the new group. And I want to let you know we've produced a special bonus podcast episode where I talk to an actual cannabis producer. I wanted to know how a producer becomes licensed, how a cannabis company competes with big corporations, how a cannabis company markets its products in such a highly regulated category, and what the term dignified consumption actually means. I think you'll find the answers interesting and surprising. Hear it now on Under the Influence with Terry O'Reilly. This bonus episode is brought to you by the Ontario Cannabis Store and ACAS Creative.

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When I die here, you'll never leave Japan alive. FX's Shogun, a new original series streaming February 27th exclusively on Disney+. 18 plus subscription required. T's and C's apply. Raj. How do you sound to yourself? Can you hear it? Oh, super. You can move that mic.

Is that uncomfortable? Super Midwestern. Super nasal. Yeah. Nasal? No, you don't. When I hear my own voice, I'm like. You think it's nasal?

Yeah. I always think it sounds like I'm going to the bar. Oh. I'm going to the bar in my car. I don't hear it. Why don't I hear it? Sometimes I do. Yeah. Really? Because I've had other people be like, car. I don't hear it. Why don't I hear it? Sometimes I do. Yeah.

Really? Because I've had other people be like, oh, Chicago, huh? Chicago. Yeah. I'm like, yes. They're like, oh, I know. I can hear it. Well, yeah, I guess I can hear it a little bit now you mention it.

You just did Ellen? I just did Ellen. Did she dance or anything? What happened? She didn't dance. I danced. You danced? I did come out in a suit that when you zip it all the way up, it has a picture of her likeness on it because I thought that would appropriately freak her out.

And you orchestrated that whole thing? Yeah. It was your idea? Weirdly, I was like, that seems, oh, yeah. She was like, what are you wearing and why is that available? I'm like, I had it made. Nothing weird there. It's like I couldn't, then I was like, why did I have it made?

Because it just made me laugh because I thought she'd be like. And who made it for you? Where do you go? There was a company. I mean, the suit is very thick. It's like wearing like 16 trash bags, but it was worth it. And you can get anybody's picture put on it. So you zip up this onesie in front of your face and it goes all the

way to the peak of the hood. And your face is covered? Yeah. But you can kind of see out of it. Their face is there. Somebody, one of our guest writers when we were shooting our movie got one made of Ben. And it was so freaky. And it was also like a 104 degree day. And he was like, I'm passing out. I'm definitely passing out. And I was like, well, you're wearing like old syringes. Like whatever this is made out of is like, it's all toxic.

It's crazy. But it's worth it, though, because it was so funny. It's worth it because it's so, and you kind of look, you certainly, it's like the Jacob's Ladder version of whosever picture it is. So it's not flattering, but I thought it was like the funniest thing I'd ever seen. And it played well? Everybody got a big kick out of it? Yeah, and then we kept telling, at least for Mac, we kept telling him, zip it up. If you're going to do it, do it.

And he's like, I'm definitely going to vomit. I'm definitely going to vomit. Where did you shoot that thing? We shot it in Atlanta. Oh, and during the summer? Yeah. Oh, my God. So it's, you know.

Yeah. It's like pure humidity. And I don't know, something about Atlanta, if I'm in LA and it goes below, if it gets warmer than like 68, I'm like, this is crazy. And in Atlanta, it's's like 170 it's pure humidity and i don't know what happens to ben and i because we usually were like polar bears but something about atlanta we're like no we should probably go out on the porch and have a drink and listen to some jazz clarinet and we do literally every night we listen to, we become like old, like Southern man.

Groovy Southern people? Not groovy necessarily, just super. When you listen to jazz? Jazz clarinet. Yeah. Just for clarification. Yeah, okay. So that's what the cool kids.

Clarinet. I guess it's like, like what? Like ragtime Dixieland? No, it's slower. It's always like. like ragtime Dixieland? No, it's slower. It's always like...

And I don't know if the humidity just messes with me, but I end up just being like, well, this is a wonderful evening. Yeah. And I go, and we fully get into it. Here, if it's like 71, I'm like, this is a horror show. It's too hot? Yeah.

But something about, and I don't like humidity. I don't know what happens. I think, I used to live in New York, and I lived in Boston, and I think you get high. I think you get exhausted. I think you have no liquid in your body. It just breaks you. It does, almost immediately. I used to notice that on the train in New York, everyone looks like they're taking a walk of shame.

They're just giving up. The entire train is just filled with people. Of course, there's probably 18 people per train that are, regardless of what time of date it is. But they're just like, I got no energy. I can't. Drained. And then all the guys in suits where you're like, I know what all that wool smells like.

Yeah. And I sweat. I don't know how. Yeah, I'm a sweater. You too? Yes. Like immediately. And I can't i can't

handle it it's almost like you're just a a fungal petri dish i got just waiting when you're nervous or no i i used to i if i'm on if i'm doing stand-up and and that feel like i i had it once or twice recently and i i hadn't felt it in a while or identified it or identified it like for some time sometimes you go up and even if you're, you know, you're nailing it pretty consistently, there's just one of those audiences that aren't going to,

they're not going to, and you know from doing it, there's nothing you're going to do that's going to change it. Most likely you're not going to turn it. Right. And then, like, I just felt that weird sweat on the back of the neck

and my face is acting normal. The neck's getting wet. That's when I'll lose my place. I mean, I haven felt that weird sweat on the back of the neck. And my face is acting normal. The neck's getting wet. That's when I'll lose my place. I mean, I haven't done it in 100 years. But that's when I would just be like, and then, oh, gosh. I knew this morning. I knew it. Yeah, I knew it.

And I'm like, no, boy, nothing warms up an audience that already hates you. Like, just a big gap. I'm going to be like, oh. No, my mouthms up an audience that already hates you. Like, just a big gap. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to be like, ugh. No, my mouth is so dry. And then you leave your body and you're just like up there all alone. And you're looking at yourself. I couldn't hack it.

You did that. You actually did that in the movie. You had a stage fright. I did. An extended. An extended. The worst case situation all the way over the top was a stage fright. Just body meltdown.

Yeah. Body meltdown. That's what's happening in my head more often. It doesn't fully react all over. I can hide it a little bit, but sometimes I'm just like... Stuff just starts disconnecting in my brain. I'm like, oh God. Really?

You feel that? Yeah, certain times. And it's weird. Right before I go out, sometimes. Yeah. Like, oh, you get like, I'm not going to. I was like, what am I doing here? They're going to know.

I'm going to have to go back to Plainfield, Illinois. They're going to know. They're going to know what? And then, I don't know. I'm always like, I'm a shim-sham man. I think somebody's going to be like, get out of here. We're on to you, McCarthy. Yeah, I'm always waiting for somebody to be like.

Nope, it's over. No thanks. Pack up your things and go. We see who you are. We know. Okay, I got it. I was waiting for this. I was waiting for it.

I'm glad I made a little money before this happened. But yeah, I don't. So the movie, like, I have a question. And I'll be honest with you. I watched it. I got laughs. But I have a question about scripts, about writing scripts. Because you wrote it with your husband.

I did. And now, so how many drafts? What's the process with you guys? Is this your third, fourth movie you wrote together? This is the fourth. Yeah. We never stop writing it. Like, it's always ongoing?

It's ongoing because I think we get to the end of it and we're like yeah i like that and then we just kind of take a day or two and then in looking at it and talking about it and thinking about okay where are you going to shoot it how many days we have a you end up being like producers repeat are we repeating are we like have we can we get out of it? And he's really good with that. I always get like attached to everything. I'm like, oh, we should shoot it. And he's like, we have it in two places.

Let's make it one. So we're kind of always, I feel like we write and rewrite and rewrite and then get there on the day. And I'm like, I'm going to say all different shit. Yeah. So it's like why we work there. I'm always like, I don't know. We get a version of what we've written. Yeah.

But then kind of after like one or two times, it's like, I think it's more fun to like. Just riff? Yeah. Within the context of the story. Well, my question was, all right, so I'm watching it and it's going along and it's, you know, the daughter and I get to say Matt Walsh and it's funny, you know, I know the people in it and I'm enjoying it and it's going along and it's, you know, the daughter and I get to say Matt Walsh. It's funny. You know, I know the people in it and I'm enjoying the story. But like as soon as like I don't want to do spoilers, but it's not really a spoiler.

But as soon as you like when you meet your daughter in the hallway at the frat house, there was part of me is sort of like, oh, my, did that just happen? Did that? And then is that OK? I found myself doing that. Like, is that OK? Is it OK? I know. I had the same thought of. I was myself doing that. Like, is that okay? Is it okay? I know.

I had the same thought. I was like, ew. Well, you know, why not her? Like, I had to go back and forth. Like, oh, I wish she hadn't seen it. Yeah. So I was like, I was torn myself of like, is this a horrible thing? But I was like, well, isn't the whole point that she's a person too?

Yeah. And that was the underlying thing for me it's like you think you know you always think your parents are like only created and up to a certain age yeah they were created so they take care of me right and then you hit a certain age and you're like oh my god they're just people they're you were a per you had a life before i probably destroyed that i ruined so it's like it's kind of a lot playing on that. Oh, that makes sense. That it's like, well, why not her?

They hit it off. Right. And they are just people, and they are people with desires and things. Things? Are your parents, are they still alive? They are. Are they married? They're married.

They're really funny and cute together. They hold hands, and they take morning walks. They're adorable. They're really funny and cute together. They like hold hands and they take morning walks. Like they're adorable. They're very funny. They're, they actually have moved out. They're going to start doing, uh, winters in LA, which is like the greatest thing ever. Cause I haven't, I haven't lived next to the, I haven't lived in the same city since I was 18. Oh, and you've decided this is going to be the greatest thing ever? It has been like, they've been here for the last four months. Yeah.

And it's, like, crushing my soul that they're going back. Really? They're like, well, we'll see you next winter. I was like, no. Oh. It's, like, they're really funny. Like, I can, they're up for anything. How old are your kids?

My oldest is about to turn 11. My youngest is eight. Oh, so it's great to have the relationship with your grandparents. Well, they go over and, like, they over and they live a minute and a half away. Yeah. And we've never had that where it's like, they're like, we're going to grandma and grandpa's. I'm like, oh my God, you can? That's crazy.

They've never had that. They have sleepovers. Oh, because it used to be you'd have to send them there for like two weeks. Well, we'd go there. It's a big trip. It's like a whole thing in Illinois, Plainfield. Oh, so they're still there. Yeah.

Oh. They're still there. So getting them out, I was like, do you need to be in Chicago for another winter? Why are they? Well, they did. My dad was like, no. But why don't they move out permanent? Well, my dad fishes a lot.

Oh. And I think he would. In the ice? Is he an ice hole fisher? No. He wants nothing to do with anything cold. Oh. But now that it's warmed up, he's like, he just went back last week for like two tournaments.

He's like, I got a show. Oh, yeah. Fly fishing? No, bass fishing on a boat. He's like, I'm missing tournaments. I'm like, well, I don't have you shackled here. So he's like, he's out of his mind to get back there to go fishing. Get him involved with like deep sea fishing.

Don't they have that? He doesn't like the ocean. He's like, I can't take the rolling tide i was like what yeah but he's not afraid of it no it just makes him sick but he was going out to like castaic and lake pyramid pyramid lake out here he just sits there and fishes just fishes he'll go every day no i like to like lay in a boat and read yeah and he's always like you gotta feel this jig i'm like ah can i just read and he's like you gotta you got to feel this jig. I'm like, ah, can I just read? And he's like, you got to feel this jig. And then he wants you for like three hours.

He's like, you feel that? And I just barely lift it. I don't even know what a jig is. Bring it up and let's go. And I do it like six times. I'm like, that's great. And I try to hand him the rod back. And he's like, no, no, no, keep it up.

Because you're waiting to feel a fish? Yeah. And that's the whole thing? I'm waiting to get a bite. But I was like, I just, I'm so happy laying at the bottom of the boat waiting. How many kids are in the family? It's myself and I have one older sister, three years older. That's it? Yeah.

How'd that happen? I don't know. Terrible Irish Catholics. I know. They've been thrown out of both groups. Oh, really? No. No. Were you brought up by Catholicy? Yeah, 12 out of both groups. Oh, really? No. No.

Were you brought up by Catholicy? Yeah, 12 years of Catholic school. No kidding. Yeah. In Chicago. In Plainfield, Illinois. How far is that from Chicago? Like 45 minutes.

Yeah. When I grew up, it was a small, really rural farm town. Now it's like a suburb, so it's kind of a bummer because it's it was like gravel roads we lived on a farm you come from farmers um my dad actually worked in the city yeah uh but we lived on a farm like a functioning farm yeah like you were corn and soybean oh so you you guys owned the property and it was farmed the farmer the farmers that farmed the land actually owned it yeah we just rented it and lived there and so. And so we didn't do the farming. Right.

They just came and did it. And so that was your life. Corn. Corn and soybeans. Yeah. Don't forget the exciting world of soybeans. Soybeans. Yeah.

Which I didn't know humans could eat until I went to New York. And I was like, wait. I've been surrounded by the... And I remember telling my parents. I was like, I went to a Japanese restaurant. You know, you can eat soybeans. They're like, what? It's called edamame.

We had no idea. And now they love it. And they're like, isn't this a hoot? Oh, they eat the edamame? Yeah. That's great. Yeah. Now we're all like.

They make tofu out of it, soy milk. They do. I don't know. We didn't know. Growing up, we were like. You didn't know what the point of soy was? It was for feed for cattle. Oh, yeah. I grew up in alfalf It was for feed for cattle. Oh, yeah.

I grew up in alfalfa. Oh, really? Kind of, yeah. In New Mexico. They grow the- I didn't know that's where they grew alfalfa. They grow it everywhere. They just feed animals the grass.

I don't know. We had about an acre and we sat there and then someone came and cut the stuff and bailed it and took it away. I don't think I've ever talked about that. it like a like a full was it a full farm no no it was just a house it was a house on a field but it was you know there was enough of it i can't remember how it wasn't that much but but they'd run there was a ditch in front and they'd irrigate this stuff and maybe it was i i thought it was alfalfa maybe i'm wrong no it probably was yeah that's like a full i mean when you have an irrigation system you're well you gotta dip you gotta dip you gotta take the you know how that works no oh there was a ditch in front right

and they'd open up a a gate from the from the uh subsidiary of the real grand river and fill with water then you have these pipes that are curved and you'd sink them and get it filled with water and pull them out over the edge of the ditch and run the water but you i did it once i was not good at it and then i thought i'd try to be a man i tried that twice yeah at one time i tried to burn some weeds and then we had to call the fire department oh my god it just did it just take kept going. Did it just tick off? Yeah. There was a house next door that was in danger. Did anybody say, hey, go out and burn something? Or were you just like, I'll take care of this? Yeah.

It seems like the thing to do. And it's a scary thing, fire. You can't stop it. Yeah. We had a burn. Well, I think about what we used to burn. It was like, well, screw you. Everything went in the burn pile.

On the farm? Just burn it. Yeah. You just haul it out to the front and you just burn it. What was the practicality of that? I mean, did they have garbage? Like, there's someone behind my girlfriend's house in Highland Park. They're burning shit.

They're just burning stuff. My dad still is like, I'll just burn it. And I'm like, Dad, you can't. You can't just put stuff in the backyard and burn it. It fun though i think there's i think that's the unspoken thing it's a great time setting things on fire it is scary i let when i was little i mean probably like 10 like two too old to be this dumb but i remember lighting toilet paper on fire yeah it was there yeah it's great and the whole of course the whole thing just caught up and i remember just being like oh shit like i had to like get what i was like and then immediately

it was like what do you think why yeah they're gonna ask me why i did it and i don't have a single good answer other than like i wanted to see if it would burn it's like dry dry thin paper sure yeah there's a good chance it's gonna burn It's like dry, dry, thin paper. Sure. Yeah. There's a good chance it's going to burn. It's exciting. And I hid it all. They never knew.

Oh, you hid. Oh, really? So, all right. So how old's your sister? She's three years older. So she's two years. Yeah. And what does she do?

She in show business? She's, no, she lives in Highlands Ranch, Colorado. Oh, that's nice. Sounds nice. I don't know anything about it. It's a lovely suburb outside of Denver. She's very smart. She's lovely. Yeah.

She's a very nice person. And every time I try to describe what she does, she's like, really? You still don't know? I'm like, you ghostwrite for doctors? She's like, I did that 20 years ago. I'm like, you are a communication specialist, which I never know exactly what that means like yes that's right so she like writes for people and it's like marketing and I do a terrible this is the same bad job I do every time I try to tell you I don't understand how

people find that kind of work how they end up there I don't know I don't understand a lot of jobs I never do I'm like'm like, doing what? What exactly do you do? And she's like, well, I write for other people. I'm like, but they're going to put their names on a book. Yeah. It's a book. It's like, what? Yeah.

It's a book, though, she writes? Well, she used to. For a while, she was ghostwriting for doctors, which I was like, but you're not a doctor. Right. She's like, well, no, I'm doing the writing part. I was like, I don't understand what's happening. For bios or for, you know? See, you don't know. I don't know. Yeah. It's like I've never met. But she's doing well no i'm doing the writing part i was like i don't understand for bios or for you know so you don't know i don't know yeah it's like i've never but she's doing well and she's doing well she's she's great margie's great and she's great at her job and she's great at her job

the writing the communications job yes it's a community where she's communicating yeah she's communicating verbally and uh with the typing computer. So tell me, explain to me, because I'm not a religious person. I'm a Jew by origin. Sure. Yeah. And Catholic sort of fascinated me because so many people have a relationship with it. And did you stay Catholic? No.

Oh. No, not at all. So right from the beginning, you're going to a church you're confessing yep which i always remember like being in a confessional and you know especially when you're little i was like i don't know what i did so i'd be like i didn't i never said that i'll tell you what no i didn't go in there and be like ps i burned a roll of toilet paper for no reason for no reason I kept that one secret. But I remember just being like, um. Yeah.

And you'd have that weird screen, which all I ever used to think about was like, can they see us more than we can see them? But you know the guy, right? Yeah, you know. So you're sitting behind him. The second you heard, there's only two priests. Right. So it's one of them. And one had a thick Romanian accent and the other one didn't.

And I was like, uh, gee, I wonder who. It was so weird to me that first you went in the phone booth, but I was like, you know, if someone's outside, they can just hear it. We're not in a, this isn't like a soundproof room. We're in like an old wooden box with big gaps. Yeah. And then I'm sitting behind this like, you know, a piece of cloth and I know who it is. Yeah.

I could never kind of stop thinking about why would you tell that guy anything yeah so i just make stuff up i was like i didn't listen to my my parents like the most generic yeah and this went on through your whole life yeah pretty much because by the time i was like well i'm not murdering people no and now i wish i would have been like i killed three people just wait to see if like is he gonna say something he's gonna break his vows and like rat me out but i never did that i just continued to say like lame yeah so it just it was just something you had to do you had to do

it and then they give you penance and then you were supposed to go sit in a pew and say the penance and i was like i don know. I just always had the thing. I was like, God doesn't care if I lied to my parents. I was like, I always was like, I think I think whatever I think God is, is like nicer than what they did. It was always like, you know, be afraid. Did you think of hell? Did you believe in it? I think I did then.

I don't believe in it now. Right. I think I did then I don't believe in it now right and I always think I feel like really religious people really have the lowest concept of what God is I'm like God just seems like a really angry drunk

yeah where I'm like I think whoever whatever it is is probably like so evolved they don't really care

about nine like 99% of what we do they'll just be like well you're all idiots. It's fine. But the damnation and like, yo, burn.

I was like. You didn't buy it. No. I just was always like, really? Yeah. But you had to wear the outfits and everything? Yeah. Wear like the plaid skirt.

And I did ask a note, which I was always sent to the office. You were sent to the office? Yeah. Because I'd ask things like, I remember asking, we had a world religion class, which to me says we're going to learn about other, and in Plainfield, Illinois, that was like the most exotic thing

that had ever come my way. And I was like, oh my God, other religions, other thing. And everything was just like, but the Muslims follow the incorrect God. And it was all like but the muslims follow the incorrect god and the and it was all say that it was all on this negative spin and i finally was like which i really i wasn't trying to be a smart ass i said well if how do you know that to the nun i said how do you know you're following the right one when she just went like gray and stared at me and i was like you know i'd done the reading i was like it's an informed question and i wasn't even being like argumentative i was like just how do you know she's like because god would tell me yeah tell

her because she's a nun well what do you mean she's like god i know that i'm doing i'm following the correct way because if i wasn't god would tell me i was I was like, well, then why isn't he told the Muslims and the Jews and people that just live in a jungle that don't follow specified religion? She was like, you get out of here. And I had to go see the principal. And it was in fourth grade.

I was like, what did I do? I just remember leaving being like, you said, are there any questions? You are nothing like your sister. She didn't answer it. She didn't bother anybody no no she was like margie would never ask that and i'm like so you had to go and then you'd be like i had to go to the principal and say what i said and she was like maybe maybe you know maybe next time you just just listen and try to soak it all in and really enjoy the reading i was like like, she said, are there any questions? And I asked a question.

She's like, I think you're missing the point. I was like, I think I'm like nailing the point. No. They were just like, shut up. And did you get sent to the place a lot? I mean, when did you become a problem? Come on. You became a problem.

I wasn't a problem. Well, that was like younger. Once I got in high school, I wasn't, even though I looked like I was problematic, but I was like the nerd that actually read this stuff and participated in class. You looked problematic? How so? Yeah. I looked like Susie Sue and like Robert Smith had a baby.

Oh, you did that? So I did that. And I was like, this is the greatest thing. For sure. Raven blue black for years. Really? Yeah. And that was your thing?

That was my thing. You were kind of pre-goth, sad emo girl? Sad. Yeah. Without the emo, like? That was my thing. You were kind of pre-goth, sad emo girl? Sad, yeah. Without the emo, like the emo thing, it wasn't like sad. I just was like, my hair looks rad.

Yeah, right. Okay, so you're just doing the fashion of it? Yeah, just the fashion. I could never get depressed enough. I was like, hey. You're not depressive at all? No.

I don't feel like you would be. because I'm always like, I don't know, just too many things are stupid to me that makes me laugh. Well, like that character in the movie that played your roommate. What's that girl's name again? Oh my God, Heidi Gardner. Yeah. So funny. She's so, so crazy funny. She commits to... She just never breaks. She doesn't push and she never breaks. It's funny because she was at Groundlings when she did that. And she's, it's funny because she was at Groundlings when she did that.

That character? No, just when we met her. That's how we knew her from the Groundlings Theater. And then right after she was done shooting, she called and was like, oh my God,

I just auditioned for SNL. And I was like, you are going to kill that show. And she was like, first show she was actually like being featured on it. When she was shooting your movie? Yeah, she wasn't doing SNL.

It happened right after it. I was so proud of her. Oh, that character she does, Every Boxer's Girlfriend? Oh, my God. That is crazy character. That was like three weeks in. You know how that first year, it's like you may not even get on camera? Yeah.

I was like, is she having like solo things right away? Yeah. And she's so fun. Is she having solo things right away? Yeah. And she's so fun. She just can drop into something and does that great thing of not push, but really sits in it. Yeah.

And I just think she's so funny. So when did you start performing? Like in high school? No, I did not. Did you do theater with your blue hair? No. No, I did sports and then- What sports?

Tennis was my biggie. Tennis? Yeah, I love tennis tennis were you good i would yeah i was i was pretty good yeah and then you still play every once while i don't play as much as i want i keep saying like i don't know why it doesn't come back yeah except now i just it's like it's i just crushed the ball so he's like just play easy play easy and the whole time the ball is coming to me i was like just play easy just play easy. And the whole time the ball's coming to me, I was like, just play easy. Just play easy.

And then I go crazy. Because I had no finesse game, even when I played and I could really play. Yeah. I just tried to shove the ball down someone else's throat. And I did that to my daughters. Your little daughters? And I didn't mean to. Yes.

The ball was coming, and I was like, okay. And I even said, like, just going to pop it back over. And then, like, my mind snaps. I go crazy. And I reared back, and I hit it so hard. It, like, hit one of my girls, and I was like, I'm a monster. Well, one, I wasn't aiming for anything. Like, my aim is terrible now. Did she cry and everything?

Yes. It was like, Mama, why? Because it looked like I was 100% aiming for her face. It really nailed her. And you were like that in high school too? You'd just slam it? Oh, yes. I would try to hit the opponent right off the bat.

I wanted to hit them really hard because I thought that would make them jittery. Freak them out? Yeah. So that was your plan? That was your strategy? That was my strategy. If I just hit the guy and not hurt him or her, and then they'd just be freaked out. They'll be nervous.

Yeah. And then they'll be more concentrated on not getting hit. Did you do that ever? Oh, yeah. I'd zing a couple. And I hit really hard. Like other people, like when Ben and I play, Ben's always like, I'm a terrible player. The fact that you don't beat me.

But it's like he just barely taps it back over. And then every time he's like, if you'd stop trying to kill the ball, you would beat me every time. I'm like, I know. And I tell myself that right until my arm, when the racket goes back, it's like suddenly my eyes turn red and like steam comes out. And then I'm like. And I can't. I hit everything like a,000 miles an hour, and it's nowhere in, but I hit it hard.

But it's satisfying. It's really satisfying. I think you do that with comedy sometimes. Perhaps. Maybe that's, I'm a real one-trick pony. I just do everything aggressively. Well, no, but if there's a build, it starts out nice. It does always turn forceful, maybe.

And then it's just sort of like, ah! There's something about the build to not holding anything back that I think is, I mean, I would say normally, because you can't do that in your real life. You can't really. And not hurt people. Yes. But that's the cathartic thing of it i think don't don't you yeah when you yell yeah that you can play like when you say things in

character you're like why wouldn't say that in life well i think there's something satisfying if it's if you've uh extracted the the true anger from it yeah the root of it it yeah like like I used to yell and it was not good you know life you would yell yeah oh yeah I'd yell in life but I'd yell on stage too but there but if you know it's if you have anger in you and you've processed it a little bit then it can be funny but if it's unprocessed anger a lot of times people are like I do why do we come to this club? Yeah. Yeah. If it doesn't flip over or whatever that line is, you're like, oh, that's just a really angry person. Right.

And that's no good. But somehow if it's sort of like, why me? Then it gets funny. But if it's like, fuck you, it's not as funny. I think when you're mad at yourself or it's funny to see the shit out of yourself if you stay the butt of your own joke even if you're trying to pretend it's somebody else yeah you still are the main ass i feel like you can push really hard right if it's really mean yeah and it's supposed to be funny i'm always like that's a that's a tricky line to like i can't walk that

line i yeah i had a hard time with that. I remember I did one roast, and I couldn't do it right. Because if I'm mean, I mean it. Do you know what I mean? Yes, I couldn't do a roast. It's not going to come out like, hey, and just be casually shitting on somebody. I'm going to be like, you fucking piece of be casually shitting on somebody it's like i'm gonna be like you fucking piece of shit you're gonna say something real well just the tone even

even if it's cute the tone will be so cutting because like i've used you know i've used comedy like that reactively but uh i don't i don't do it on stage anymore if i'm if i'm worked up but you know i try to make myself the funny guy have you ever come back at like I found when I did stand up I thought the craziest thing was you know especially when you're just starting out and you have like I've only got six minutes yeah but it's the heckling yeah like do you like when people do nobody really heckles you anymore would they or is there always like the drunk that's like well take your top off well no, no. Yeah, I get that one a lot. It's weird.

It's me. It's me in the back. You're still following me? Yes. There he is. Take your top off! Take your top off! Sometimes, you know, people talk. You know, but I can tell the difference if they're just like, the wall is broken down and they're just reacting.

So I've always had that problem where where people like sometimes i'll look at one person in the crowd for the whole time like i just end up on them and at some point they're like why are you what's happening you know you're freaking me out exactly are you or people will answer me like in converse like as if we're having a conversation, which is not hostile. But if I feel bad energy, or if somebody's talking to somebody else, I mean, I don't, my tactic now is to be really hostile and horrible to them immediately,

and then kind of do this thing where it's sort of like, oh, I'm sorry, I meant to say, could you please quiet down? What came out? You know, that kind of. Whoopsie-doo. Oh, I don't know what I just said. I'm sorry.

Why is that lady crying and leaving? Oh, my God. I just couldn't get. I mean, you do real sets, but it's like I found. I just found it so weird because it was like no matter what club, there's always the drunk guy that goes, take your top off. And I'd want to be like, well, what? I'm in a dress. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be guy that goes take your top off and i want to be like well what i'm in a dress yeah yeah it's gonna be hard because it's all coming out two piece and then i'm just

it's a mess and but the only way to get them to be quiet was like well now i couldn't just say one thing and move on right from that person i'm like now out of my six minute set because i'm just starting i got a baby i have to do four minutes and i have to annihilate you yeah in a way that i don't want to do this but if i don't truly embarrass you to your core we're now how are we going to move forward then i can't move forward and then right after that so now you finally shut up and i have to be like hey the craziest thing happened to me i was like there's no I can't transition I can't flip that switch yeah yeah yeah yeah that's why I was like yeah you can't do this you just level someone go like pasta that's why all your friends hate you yeah the craziest thing happened on an airplane they're like no we we just saw your true colors

right we saw the monster we saw through it but did you do you do you believe you have you're angry in there or were no i think i was you know i had more i think i was way more likely up until like you know through my early 20s to get like just like i'm irritated and like things aren't going you know you're working like 15 jobs and you're just like tired yeah yeah mad and like you know life's a jip yeah yeah i'm 23 i should be rolling the ellis should all be going my way yeah you know when did you finish college no i've got so much to offer are you doing anything to do that no i'm going out a lot after my four shifts at work and then i don't feel good in the mornings but other than that yeah i'm hung over all the time i hate my job that's my

resources i make every night i spend more than i made that day continuously so okay so after you went to college for a little while? Yeah, I did. I went like a year and a half-ish. Southern Illinois. So you didn't get out of Illinois. You went right from Catholic school. Yeah.

And like when you were in your Robert Smith, Susie phase, was there a lot of partying involved? Yes. Yeah. Like that was my main thing in college. I was like, well, i'm booking bands now oh you booked bands at this like local pizza thing where they let it and i was like if i would have put a quarter of that energy into like classes yeah i would have been okay so at some point you let that drift too you weren't doing the homework i wanted to go to new york right and my parents

are like you kill yourself in new york and i was like which i totally would have killed myself just not on purpose no just like going out to i mean i was just like i want to be in a city i've been on a farm like i just wanted to be in a city were you bringing real bands in no i was bringing bringing in like my friends oh so so it was like it was like crazy you know so it was just a big that we were booking like every once in a while somebody's like so and so from st louis and we're like the city but you were sort of involved with the whatever the rural punk rock scene was and just going out it's like where where is the low grade beer coming from yeah and what are we doing after everything closes it It was just like, it was just so fun.

I just felt like, this is what it's about. I'm like, I could have hit a class. Oh yeah. We used to hang out in front of liquor stores, get old people to buy our liquor.

Yeah. Did you? We would send in Kristen, who was our most developed friend and we all thought she looked the oldest. So we would just whore her out. Did she have fake ID?

No. She would just go up to somebody and we're like she looked the oldest. So we would just whore her out. Did she have fake ID? No. She would just go up to somebody and we're like, she's pretty and she has a very large chest. We're like, go get us some beer. And it worked. Yeah, yeah. And then you go drive around. I know.

It's like the worst. Like, what are you thinking? And also, if some kid came up to me in a liquor store and asked me, I'd be like, no. What are you doing? Who and asked me. I always wonder about that. I'd be like, no. What are you doing? Who are those people? I always think about that. But you never went to somebody that you, I mean, you went to like the sleaziest person.

Well, I think there's that moment. Like, I think what happens in people if they hate themselves enough is just sort of like, I remember being that kid. I'm going to help him out. Give him a six Heineken. Whatever. Do you think that was it? Like, oh, you poor son of a bitch.

Well, yeah. That was me. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. I mean, I don't know what else it would be. But for some reason, it seems like, I don't know, I'm 54. So it didn't seem like drinking and driving was popular. It was not an issue.

Nobody seems to mind. nobody's talking about it i remember we got pulled over in my friend's huge station wagon like a like a crazy one of those big old ones when i was in high school and there were i think seven of us in the back like the wagon part yeah and there were just there were just beer cans everywhere and like we were going somewhere and the cops pulled us over he did the light thing talked to the driver who she was actually not drinking and like went back looked in the back seat and then looked in the back and there's like seven girls rattling around back there with like 800 beers and he was just like have a good night and i think about like i think about that all the time i was just like in what world yeah

do you not get us out of the car and we all were like you know 16 yeah it's the same world where his buddy probably bought you beer probably or he wasn't in his uniform we were like excuse me sir were you driving around in the in the sticks though because the sticks have different rules sticks have different rules no this was this was like in the big city of Joliet, Illinois where the prison is. Sure, sure. Not to be showy.

Yeah. Wow. But yeah, we drive by Statesville. So, all right, so you go to college for a year and a half and just what?

What happens? And then I was like, I don't know what I'm doing. I wanted to like, I wanted to go to FIT. Are you still wearing the hair with the? Yes.

Oh, so FIT, that was the plan? Yeah. So you were going to go further with the hair. Yeah, I wanted to, I wasIT. Are you still wearing the hair with the? Yes. Oh, so FIT, that was the plan? Yeah. So you were going to go further with the hair. Yeah. I was like, I'm going into fashion because I took clothing and textile classes at school. Yeah. And I wanted to make clothes.

Yeah. And they're like, we're going to make potholders. I was like, I don't want a home ec class. Oh. I want to make a suit. I want to make this. I'm like, I knew how to sew. Did you make a suit?

Not there because they were like, we're going to start with potholders. Potholders? That's what I said. I said, this is, and I was like, this is lame. This isn't a fashion class. I said, I know how to make clothing. Yeah. And she goes, then you should make a very good potholder.

Oh, wow. So my response to that is, I'm never showing up here again. It's like the nun of a different denomination. That's what it felt like. It felt like I finally went to college and I thought we were going to be like discussing things and doing really creative stuff. And I was like, this is the same crap from high school where it's just a teacher that doesn't really care. And I was like a potholder. And that was that for that.

Yeah. That was the end of the fashion dream? No, I made clothes on my own. You made your own clothes? Yeah. For a while I was going to make, I started meeting with drag queens because I was going to make them start doing gowns and stuff. Where, in Chicago? Nope.

Southern Illinois. Right. So what city? Carbondale. Okay. So was there enough of a drag queen resource? Yeah. There really was. There was some good shows. Yeah.

And you started doing that? I never ended up doing it, but I remember meeting with a bunch of people. I couldn't make up my mind or didn't want to actually pay enough for it. Did you make your own clothes? Sometimes I would make my own but i would always alter like change stuff like if i'd get something i'd be like i should rip that in half and then do that like i loved monkeying with stuff and a lot of eyeliner so much eyeliner and white like white stage makeup like full true kabuki and then just like black mascara on my

eyebrows and like you know i would like put trying like put big rectangles over my, and then just like black mascara on my eyebrows. And like, you know, I would like put trying, like put big rectangles over my eyes. And then of course, if somebody looked, be like, what are you looking at? Right. Sure. Like, don't you don't get it. I was like, do you look back on that? How do you feel about that girl now? I think I was bored and I think it was pretty funny.

Like, I remember just doing certain things and being like, that's crazy. Like at one point I shaved. I came home from a, I had spent the night downtown Chicago with like a friend that had already gone to college. Yeah. And I came home and I had my head wrapped and I had shaved, I'd say an inch and a half of my hairline. Yeah. Like bald. Yeah. shaved the i'd say an inch and a half of my hairline yeah like bald yeah and i put i continued

the white kabuki makeup up oh my god to my skull and my sister i came home and margie goes is anybody gonna stop her and i thought i was like look my head looks malformed and i just i thought it was the funniest thing and i still had the rest of my head they thought i shaved the whole thing and like finally the scarf came out but it was more bizarre that my hair like three inches like an inch and a half which i'll tell you what you get this curve in with makeup that it's it's a real head turner because people are like what's wrong with her head and i'd be like it looks crazy right and it didn't bother me at all. I just thought it was the, for some reason,

I thought it was really, really funny to just do things that were like so unappealing and like so weird looking. But I was like, I don't know. I was fascinated with like what you could do. And what did your parents say? They were like, oh my God, Missy. You're making choices. And I was like, I know.

Look at it from profile. I mean, it really looks like I've had a head injury. They were like, Jesus. Because a year earlier, I was kind of preppy. And I was a cheerleader. And I did tennis. Oh, yeah? And I was student council.

And then the next year, I was like, I should probably just start going downtown Chicago. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a pretty sudden switch. I think that's about right, right? That's when you're supposed to do that. Yes, I got bored. But you weren't mean to your parents.

You weren't like, fuck you or anything. I wasn't great. From like 16 to 18, I was a bit of a dick. Yeah. And I don't know why. And it started really suddenly and it went off really suddenly. I remember going off and being like, oh my God, I've got to call mom. And I called her, and I was like, I'm so sorry about the last two years.

Because they're super nice. They're super supportive. And I just suddenly was like, drop me off down the street. I don't want anyone to know that, like, I'm not driving myself. And that was, like, at 15. She was like, well, none of you are driving.

Nobody, none of your friends have your license yet. And I was like, Oh, you don't get it. And then I'd walk by all my friends' cars and I'd be like, Hey, Mrs.

Kerner. Like I had no problem. And I'd say hello to all their moms. But suddenly it was like that really cliche thing of like, I was just suddenly like, so I just wanted to be older. Yeah.

Right. And so I just acted out and I was like, I was so, I was such a jerk to them. That's so funny. I still to this day, sometimes I'm like, I am sorry about that couple of years. And now they just laugh. You're just like belligerent and like, you know. Yeah. And I just wanted to stay out.

And they're like, you're not coming home at two in the morning. You're 16 years old. And and i was like this is crazy and he's like no it's crazy that you want to first of all you shouldn't be downtown chicago he's like i moved to a farm to keep my children out of chicago and i can't keep you from going to chicago and that's where you'd go yeah and what'd you do in chicago we'd Chicago? We'd go to clubs and we'd go to like, there was like a juice bar called Medusa's that was 18 or under, but it was like a full club. 18 or over? 18 and under.

Oh, 18 and under? Yeah, so it was a juice bar. So if you're over 18, you couldn't go? I don't know about that. I wasn't. Yeah. But it was like, it felt like a real club. And then we'd, you know, eventually got IDs and we'd sneak into like the Metro.

Right. You got fake IDs. In Berlin. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like we just wanted to like dance. I mean, we would drink. But the main thing I was like, they're all going to like Tom's house like we've been doing since freshman year and having the same party.

I was like, we are downtown Chicago listening to like unbelievable music. Yeah. And it's like I'm not surrounded by the same 14 people it was just like the most exciting thing well thank god that you did that seriously because you have to do that you've got to want to get out i wanted to get out i was in new mexico and there was i wanted nothing where did you go like to what was your get out well in new mexico you got your driver's license at 15 so and then like i got a job by the university so i was engaging with freak people like older weirdos and like like the guy who worked at the record store next door turned me on to all this weird music and then there was a whole art scene there was a

like new mexico university in new mexico had like there was a lot of artists there so i was sort of hanging out like going to weird parties with With everybody who was older than you? Yeah. I remember bringing one of my townie buddies to one of these college parties with all these freaks. Like, you know,

like there was like a bondage theme. It was like weird art stuff. Oh my God. And I remember my buddy, we walk in and he was like, what the fuck?

No, he's a college kid. What the fuck are we doing? This is college. This is the goal. Some guy's just in a latex suit. It was one of those guys. It wasn't like a whole gay thing, but there was the guy who I knew from the record store had a band that only played twice a year, and they wore surgical suits, and they broke

fiesta wear, and it was complicated. But isn't it like once you see that, even as a... Oh, yeah. It's still just like, well, it's kind of hard to go back to like someone's parents' basement. It is. Yeah. Like after you see like this.

Sure. Because you're like, there's a world out there. Yeah. That I don't understand at all. No. And I want to be part of it. Yeah. For God's sakes.

So when did you get out? When did you decide to leave? SIU? Yeah. Or do I go do like be funny what clicked in your brain that realized you're like I can't make my own clothes I moved to

because school was not working out for me my sister was in Boulder Colorado and I was like I guess I'll go visit and I stayed there for I don't know not a full year but I had one of my best friends who was in New York came out to visit me.

He's like, what are you doing here? In Boulder? Yeah. Were you just working? I work at a farmer's market. I was trying to get this shoe. Like there was an actual, like a shoe cobbler that I kept trying to talk into,

like teaching me how to make shoes. That wasn't working out. And he's like, no, what are you doing here? Like, what are you, why are you in Boulder, Colorado? I'm like, I don't know. Oh, you just lost. He's like, you should come to, and I was like, I want to come to New York, but I have like, I think I had like $35.

And he's like, just get a ticket and you can move in with me. Saved it. Who was that person? Brian Atwood. He saved you. One of my closest friends from high school. And I moved in with him. Of course, when I got to New York, like after the ride in, then I had like $9 left for my big move.

And he was staying on someone's couch. He didn't really even have his own place. So I came with all these bags and this girl was like, what? I'm like, I'm here. Brian's in bed. She's like, he doesn't live here. He's staying on my couch. I'm like, oh, boy.

Like, I don't have enough money. I can't go anywhere. I have no money. So this girl, I just remember her. How old were you? 20. Yeah. She was so mad at me, and I was like, I know it's weird, but I mean, I literally cannot

go anywhere else. And we stayed there for like, I know it's weird, but I literally cannot go anywhere else. And we stayed there until we got our own apartment. I was like, oh, my God. He just never thought to mention, by the way. I don't really live at the place. I don't live there, but come on out. I'm curious about the cobbler. What was that relationship?

Well, I kept me. I was trying to, like, I was drawing bags for her and I was trying to get her labels. And I just went into like, I said, I'll just help you do whatever you need done if you teach me how to make shoes. Because she would like do it on last and I was like, that would be amazing. Did you make any shoes? No, she kept just putting it off. But I think I cleaned her place a lot. The shoe dream never manifested.

The shoe dream never manifested. But boy, were her floors clean all right so you're new york no money you're you're doing jobs like i'm trying to figure out the first i moved in with brian we went to um we went to a grocery store and he picked up a village voice yeah and he said you're gonna do stand-up tomorrow night and it was the second that was the first night in so he knew you were funny and you had no you had not discussed that or anything we had always done this thing called miss why yeah and that was like kind of an alter ego and we would always make up these stories yeah when we were out like i'd tell i'd tell kind of like long weird stories and

he's like you have to do it you have to do it and we never really talked about doing it it was just like a thing we did when we were goofing around yeah and he's like you you have to do it. You have to do it. And we never really talked about doing it. It was just like a thing we did when we were goofing around. And he's like, you're going to do stand-up tomorrow. And being 20, I was like, all right. And you did it. Didn't think about it. Didn't write anything. Just got up. Where?

And Stand Up New York was the first place. My favorite place was the Duplex. Oh, yeah. I love that. Yeah. But Stand Up New York was the upper. Yeah, yeah. I love that. Yeah. But Stand Up New York was the... Yeah, that was a weird room. Yeah, and it's,

you know, especially when you're doing an open mic. Yeah, and it's a weird thin room and that stage was kind of narrow. Everybody's rooting

against everybody, which I was like, this is kind of weird. How'd you do? I didn't do terribly because I got to come back, but I'm sure like if you, I'm sure if i watch it

now it would be like the hackiest hack stuff yeah but you didn't you didn't walk in with stand-up how long did you do it i did it probably only six months and then i i just didn't like the heckling stuff i couldn't get past take your top off yeah take your top off and i was just bored with it i was like oh god it's not even a different line yeah and it was like and i dressed kind of like a drag queen like i'd go with like wigs and like i was pretty exaggerated looking on stage so i was like really like really i didn't hide myself well enough i'm not i didn't desexualize enough i was like what what do i have to dress i was just i just got tired of it so i was like, maybe I'll just go and do something else. So I started an acting class and then I never went back to it.

Now I'm too chicken. Oh. Now I find it terrifying. But yeah, I guess. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that makes sense. Which acting class?

Did you stay in that? I did. I did it for two years. Which one? Michael Harney, who is... I know that guy. He's an amazing actor. He was on True Detectives.

Yeah. He was on Orange is the... He's the warden on Orange is the New Black. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was... It was a very serious class. It was a two-year program. What school?

It was his acting school, and we were Meisner trained. Yeah. And no business talk. He's like, I don't want to see headshots. I don't want to talk. I don't want to even be talking about auditions. Just come in here and learn to act and keep all that. So you did Meisner sort of like listening and engaging.

You have a blue shirt. I have a blue shirt. I have a blue shirt. You have a blue shirt, yeah. And it went on. And for some reason, I was like, this is the greatest thing ever. It is pretty good. It locks you into something.

It totally does. I loved it. And it totally made sense to my head that it wasn't about the words as much as it was like what you were. I was like, it's a perfect example of it doesn't matter what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. Right. And gets you present.

Yeah. Wow. And so you did that for two years and then you got an agent no i couldn't figure that part out i just kept putting on plays and like one act things with other people where in like i would get it together in new york yeah some random room and we the goal was just to make enough money if we could like break even right then we could like go to the next one and break even on that were they comedies no no never so you're serious

all dramatic stuff how did that i did a lot of how the wheels come off of that i move i finally moved to la because i was like i don't know how to get an agent and i never wanted to leave new york but i moved out here and moved in with a friend who let me move into a studio, which was very nice. And my sister had sent me something ripped out of a magazine on Groundlings. And I was like, L.A., theater will be amazing. I didn't know. I'd never been here before. So you just did that on a whim, too?

You just came out here? Yeah. And, again, I was completely broke, but I knew, like, it wasn't – I yeah and again i was completely broke but i knew like it wasn't i was doing plays all the time but i was like i don't know how to make this a i don't know how to make it a living what's someone show me the portal yeah because i was like i just i don't get it oh yeah how you break in varney said no headshots like we're not going to learn about business we're not getting no which about business. Which is fine. Which is actually like,

it was kind of great because that never entered into it. It wasn't part of like, who's doing what? I just always remember like, what was it? Like the toy, oh, there was a toy thing that happened once a year.

Toy drive? Or you got to bring toys in? No, it was like the toy fair. Yeah. And all these like, all these huge companies came and it's like, that's where people toys in? No, it was like the toy fair. Yeah. And all these huge companies came. And it's like, that's where people started getting jobs. The toy fair? Yeah, it was like, I'm playing Barbie.

Oh, I see. And somebody really like. So they cast. Yeah. And so like whoever you're playing at that, because it was supposed to be like really good money. I could never. I was like, oh my God, I can't even get.

I can't even get like, I'm a Rubik's cube. Like there was just nothing. And undone. Yeah. And it was a real, like, it was that point in the year where everybody was like, yeah, I am Barbie. Oh, really? That was like, I'm still nannying and working two shifts.

You nannied? Oh yeah. I nannied for a long time. In New York? In New York and in LA. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that's a nice gig. It was real. I loved it. I loved it. I loved the time. In New York? In New York and in LA. Yeah? Yeah. That's a nice gig.

It was real. I loved it. I loved it. I loved the kids. I loved the family. Being in other people's houses. Yeah. In a nicer house, I was like, oh, you live so nicely.

Then I moved in with a really lovely family, and I was like, I have my own bathroom. Like in New York, I was like, what? Yeah. I felt like, I was like, oh my God, I have like a benefactor. i was like what yeah i felt like i was like oh my god i have like a benefactor this was like the greatest it's like sorry the room is so small i was like it's mine i'd been living on like a floor how long do you live with them i live with them a couple of years wow yeah i went from there to la but i was like well i was a crushed leaving i was really close to them yeah and what you left because you had to follow the dream.

I just knew I needed to do something different. I was like, I'm not figuring it out here. Yeah, but that's so funny because I don't, you probably noticed, like I noticed, like I didn't, I just assumed that it would all just fall into place without having any knowledge of it whatsoever if I just showed up at the place.

Yes, and I thought, I'm working so hard. Like somebody, don't these people come and see plays right you have no idea how show business works none it's weird no and you realize after you've been out here a while that that still exists there's just a a world of people that are like when's it i know it's like i'm doing monologues in my bedroom yeah i don't see why it's not working i put them on i put them online but it them online. But it's hard to crack the code. It really is. And people are resistant to somebody new.

And you don't know what managers are good or what agents are good. No. So you come out here and you go to Groundlings. That's where you learned, probably? I think of that like my college. I feel like that's where I learned. You took the class, took classes and eventually got in Sunday company and then eventually gotten I was there for 12 or 13 years before you did anything.

I started doing a show during the time there. Yeah. But, you know, up until I wasn't work certainly wasn't working very much. Like I still had I always had like two like a couple jobs. you're in sunday company when who was your who was your crew it was like kristin wig annie mummelo maya rudolph jim rash net faxon like a really kind of crazy jim rash i just saw his movie on the plane oh you did the way way back isn't good yeah it's nice yeah it's lovely yeah yeah yeah it's lovely. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so we had kind of a crazy group.

Like, I remember Maya got a show, and we were all like, but we also were all kind of, you know, she just seemed magical. She seems magical. Like, she still seems magical, but now I know her really well. At the time, we were just like,

of course she did. Yeah. Because she's amazing. And then, like, left that show to go do SNL. And we were like, what? You're leaving one show to do SNL? Like, it just was like crazy. But you knew once you were in Groundlings for a little while, but that was possible.

Then it became possible. And I felt like I found, also, I don't think I would have stayed in LA without Groundlings. I think I just needed to find other other it was like you literally found your other like and what'd you learn strange people yeah i mean like what how did like because you have like there you have a style about you and i think that it seems that like people who work in sketch who have the freedom to improvise and create characters but you do i think you seem to figure out over time what is funny about you I think you at least learn that what's funny to you and all you can do is that yeah because if you don't think it's

funny it's like if I truly think something's not funny I'm like I can't pull that off right but like but when you're on stage in a live situation you start to realize like I'm gonna do this thing now because it's gonna to get a laugh. And the adjustment is, to me, the most addicting thing. The adjustment. The adjustment of if it's working or if it's not working. Yeah. And if you alter something and you catch them, then I'm like, oh, my God.

Like, the second I felt that, and it's also I felt it the other way. But each time I'm like, ooh, they are not enjoying what i'm dishing out right now and i think that maybe teaches you more than anything it's the bomb like when we all get together it's like it's the bombs we talk about it's not like remember that great scene it's like remember when you were so embarrassed like remember when people hated your guts on stage and like verbally hated you? I'm like, yeah, I remember that.

I remember quite a few of those. Finding that and I think just being like, if I never worked, I was like, I found where I should be. Yeah. Right.

And I don't care. I'll keep doing other jobs and just keep doing this. But when, when you think, when you say like the adjustment, like that seems to be like a tool of some kind.

Like, like, you know, like, Like when you did, like Gilmore Girls was not the most extreme character, but you had to be there for everybody and show up. But it wasn't like over the top. No. So how do you construct a regular character like that? I think it's still like from character. I mean, I still think you have to, I always feel like I have to like my characters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even if they're terribly flawed.

I mean, even if they seem like monsters in my head, I'm like, but I know what they mean. I know like their intent. And that show was written, like, you know, when it's written, when it's there, you're like, oh, okay. It was written to be done word for word like that. So there was absolutely no, there was no looseness to that. They had a real style. How'd you get that gig? Alex Borstein.

She actually got it first. And then I think she couldn't get out of her Mad TV contract. And so they, I know, I was like, oh so she's working now she's working now she's good everybody she's just she's on the the amazing miss mazel yeah same same creator as gilmore yeah yeah and she's so funny that's true it's like guess what yeah we're gonna make this right this right and i don't blame her i I was like, Alex is really funny. But she couldn't do it. And then they saw all these people.

And that was like, that was the first. I mean, I got that job. And I think I was 29. And I was about to be 30 the next week. And I thought, all right, this has been a solid 10 years of grinding it. And I was like, I'll just stay in production. I was like a production coordinator. Oh, so that's what you're doing for money?

Yeah, at that point I was. And I was like, if I don't get something by the time I'm 30, I had a week. I'd been telling myself this for like six months. I was like, don't chase it if it's not meant to be. And I was like,'t don't chase it if it's not meant to be yeah and i was like i like doing production i said at 30 you're you're gonna just go for that yeah and then i got gilmore when i like a week away from being 30 it's weird you probably could have been all right with production i liked i mean i i still was like there there's real creativity in it and it's like you're still making something and you're engaging with people all the time

you're like where's the how come craft services isn't. Yeah. I was running around being like, I'll get it. Why am I still lifting cases of water? But Gilmore Girls, Jesus, that was a great run. Crazy. Because that went seven, I think it was seven years, eight years, seven years. And people love it.

I think seven years. Yeah. They watch it compulsively. Maybe I'm just talking about the one weird girl I went out with for a while. No, there's a whole, people really, they were like, I grew up with that. My mom and I watched it.

Like a lot of stories about it. It's the only time my mom and I talked during like that stage of my life. It's like, it's. That's what they tell you. Yeah. Yeah, it really was. I was like, oh, geez.

It really brought people together. Yeah. I dated a woman who would, it was like her medication. Really? Yeah. She would watch repeats of the Gilmore Girls. It got a little ugly, but over time, it didn't work out.

But it was one of the ways she treated herself. Oh, my God. Yeah. I'd come home and she'd be in it. And I'd be like, how many times have you seen this episode? I can't even count anymore. I'm like, okay. I'm going to go in the other room and she'd be in it. And I'd be like, how many times have you seen this episode? I can't even count anymore. I'm like, okay, I'm going to go in the other room and go out to the garage. But as a testament to the work, it did help her.

That's what I'm saying. There. Sure. That's what you mean. So that was like seven years. Yeah. And that's all you did. Were you still doing the groundlings during the time?

Yeah. I was still, I did the groundlings the whole time. And movies? I did a couple like tiny little parts. You were just like funny moments? Yeah, just a couple lines here and there. The funny woman with the two lines? Yes.

Yeah. That was probably going to be cut out what are you fellas doing yeah i'm the crazy neighbor get out of my bushes but so what but you were known from the gilmore girls but you didn't it wasn't like you didn't break out right no it was wonderful steady work right i had never even imagined yeah yeah and then what and then what what happened so you have, that's a long time. It's a long time. So many years.

Did another little, a little show called, is it I Am Sam? Sam? Oh no, Samantha Who. Oh yeah, yeah. I went back to like the first name. Yeah. Samantha Who, which was really fun. Yeah.

And then, but it didn't last, it didn't survive that writer's strike. Right. And then. and then really like the first thing where i was like i felt like which was probably why i thought i for sure wasn't going to get it is was bridesmaids yeah and that was before mike and molly i feel like i did that the summer before i started mike and molly okay bridesmaids. So it was like right before. I think I was started on Mike and Molly before it even aired. I mean,

Bridesmaids hadn't come out yet. And Bridesmaids was like huge. And it was so strange because those were all my friends from Groundlings. Yeah. So we're like, well, wait. Is anybody going to see that? Like, is this just funny to us? Because that's what we've been doing. Who did that? Paul Feig?

Paul Feig directed it. And was Wendy in this? She was in The Groundlings with you? Yeah, we were all in the company together and then we were making a movie. We're like, what the hell's happening? That was so smart because you all knew how to work with each other, right? Yeah, Rose was really the only one we didn't know

and that took like 13 minutes before we were all like, she's great. I mean, it was just like. Right. She's got that character. Totally. I talked to Wendy. She's like a trip.

She's a trip. She really is. Yeah. Kind of. I got the feeling that she was still on the fence about whether she should be working at the hotel still. Like literally. She's on the Goldberg. Good job.

Yeah. She's that kind of person. Totally. and i think she still lives down by her parents she does yeah and i was like you don't want to move into la oh god no oh no and she always has an amazing amount of like jams and jellies and she's always got some kind of like emollient or like a wonderful hand cleanser in her bag. I'm always like, what do you have? It's like a pharmacy in there. Yeah. So that changed everything, the bridesmaids. You got an Oscar nomination for that, right?

Yeah, crazy. That's exciting. Nuts. Yeah. Yeah, nuts. But then the movie career starts and then the Mike and Molly go, it never stops. Never stops.

You do. You have to deal with Billy every day. He he's a great guy sweet son of a bit yeah he is every day he'd come and be like well they let me on the lot again i don't know what's going on and he's like 50s car i was like he's like the club like i feel like we met and i literally was like i think i just met who was supposed to be my brother yeah like i loved i love him so much and he's i mean you know he's just bigger than life but you guys were you guys hit it off right away and right away that whole group did that was like a dreamy uh cast where we all and that show was on for another seven or eight years, right? I think six or seven years. I shouldn't remember.

And both of those are like Gilmore Girls. You did the new one too, right? I did. I went in for a day, yeah. Okay. But the syndication? Crazy. Right?

So you were good. Crazy. You're all set. Well, I mean, syndication for the actors doesn't always mean so much that's right but when it's 120 episodes yeah i mean it takes a while for those checks to be three dollars yeah and then you're getting down to like 39 cents are you still putting in the bank though don't you yes except when they're really my husband ben does a thing where when you get something under like 50 cents yeah he always signs it over to a friend and kind of slides it across the

table with like a really creepy wink. Sure. Get yourself a soda. And they cash it. Then they all, everybody does it back and forth to each other. Oh, that's funny. If it's like super low, it gets signed over. That's the game?

Yeah. When did you meet Ben? Technically, I met him at Groundlings. Like our, I want to say second round, like first day of class, we sat next to each other. Oh, so he goes back, yeah. But then weirdly, I went to Southern Illinois University and he grew up in Carbondale. So that was the connection? That was the connection because I said, I went to SIU, kind of, nobody's heard of Carbondale.

And it went around the room and he's like, thanks, I'm from Carbondale. And it went around the room. And he's like, thanks. I'm from Carbondale. I was like, oh, sorry. Did you say, no, you remember me? I had my head shaved up to the top. Once we became really good friends, like a week or two in, he said, oh, my God. I knew who you were. I know who you were.

And I said, no, you wouldn't recognize me. He goes, I was afraid of you. And I said, oh, that was me. That was me. He goes, we were afraid of you. And I said, oh, that was me. That was me. He goes, we were at a party together. Get out of here. He was in high school because he's three years younger. He goes, I was friends with a bunch of the gothic girls in high school.

Yeah. That like always would try to go to like one of the parties. He goes, we were at a party together. Because you had the most gack on. Oh, really? And he goes, you were i was like probably a full-length cape something subtle yeah and it was you you remember yeah so like 10 years before we met really we were at a party that's wild in southern illinois and it wasn't

weird it's crazy i know and and how long did you did you date before you got married like six years or so wow a while so did you ever audition for snl no never happened no every time they would come like once to groundlings they would snl would always come to groundlings like once or twice a year and i did almost every show and i swear to god for like the 13 years i was there, it was like I took one show off. They were like, oh, SNL came. I was like, God damn, are you kidding me? It's so much. Every single time they were like, we never saw, like just the odds of it.

How did we not see you? I'm like, I'm telling you, in a year, I would not make one show and it would be the one time you were there. Wild. I mean, not that I would have gotten it, but it was just like just like it was heartbreaking like the timing of it was like crushing oh at that time sure yeah it's the worst like yeah like you're just like how did that happen to me just built it built the engine yeah the engine it built the disappointment and rage just the nothing but mistakes it's so much more exciting to go back the way you went back. You hosted it how many times? I've hosted it five times now.

And that's great. And the Spicer thing, you can just show up and do the- Just be a man. Be the true man I am. Lose your mind, start screaming and running around. Whatever gets me on a podium in New York City is okay with me. But that was such a relief for everybody. Jeez, because that happened when, you know,

like it's, we've all gotten numb to the scariness of it all, but Jesus, at that moment you did that, we're like, oh, thank God. It was just like, I just remember when they, Kent Sublett, who's also another friend from Groundlings, he's one of the

head writers there now, and I was there shooting something, He's like, you think you could come in and, do you have any interest in playing Spicer? And I was like, what?

How am I going to do Spicer? I was like, I don't do impersonation. I don't know how to do that. And I was like, it's just, I don't know. I don't know if I want

to get into that. Right. It just seems so like. And he talked you into it? Yeah. And I was like, well, it's impossible how am i going to become spicer and then the special effects guy's like not that hard as he's

like staring at you like we could make you a man in like 13 minutes i was like oh can you at least say it'll be harder he's like it's gonna be pretty easy yeah and then you did it like a bunch of times i did it a bunch yeah and what was? Like, I remember that moment where he came out, they brought him at the Academy Award. It was like, why did, what were they doing? It's very strange. I know because they cut right to you. Which I didn't know a camera. I was just like, I just didn't know what was, I was like, why are you here? Yeah. I couldn't figure that out. I was like, you're not a sidekick to me.

Yeah. I'm still waiting for you to like apologize to the country. are you here yeah i couldn't figure that out i was like you're not a sidekick to me yeah i'm still waiting for you to like apologize yeah to the country yeah i was like you don't get to move right into like and were you were you on you were in the audience so weren't you but like did you interact with that guy no no i had no interest but you got you they they claim that you helped him lose his job, which is fine. That's better than hang out, yes. It's like, I think you get into that stuff. I was like, I truly am like, you can't move on with, at least with me or so many people. It's like, we need a hardcore apology.

Right. You have to full mea culpa for that stuff. It wouldn't even be enough that guy was yeah there's those people were deficit of something but like your characterization of him was just so uh relieving and funny and just like you know it was somehow or another we just you were able watching it you're like yeah he probably is like that that's what he's saying. Well, and it's funny. I had been really busy for like three days and I hadn't read anything. I was like, I haven't seen a paper. I haven't done anything.

After you did it? No, between one of them. And they called and they sent a script. And I think I was still in New York. And I said, you know, I said, I think what you guys have done so well is always used real stuff. Like what I'm saying is quotes, which I think is why it works so much. Because I was like, I never want to go mean. I don't want to just take a stab.

I'd rather use their own words. So you actually did. I mean, I didn't. But it was like that was a part of it. I was like, I think to keep it funny, you use their own words against them. Yeah. Because if we start just making fun of them. Then we lose it.

It'll look, it'll look. Then it gets nasty. Right. And I said, you know, so if we can take out this thing where he's hiding in the bushes. And Kent was like, what? I said, well, it's just, I mean, it's funny, but it's like now we like if we go crazy, then everybody's crazy. What hole have you been in? I was like, I haven't looked at a paper in three days.

Like I'm in a complete vacuum. And he goes, it's true. He hid in the bushes. And I was like, I'll be right in. I literally was like, I'm literally hailing a cab as we speak. I just jumped out a window and I landed on top of a cab. I felt like my brain cracked in half. Yeah.

But I thought you were great in St. Vincent. Oh, thanks. And working with him must have been just a fucking amazing experience. Surreal and lovely. And also I was like, oh my God, you're so good. What was it about him? I don't know. Even as a person, he's one of the most fascinating.

Yeah. Like he's on a different timing. Right. And there's such a non-bullshit thing of he doesn't choose to use a filter in any way in terms of like acting wise as a person he just is like when it's when he's having fun he's having fun when he's giving an opinion it's a real opinion like there's just something about him that i can't say i've ever met anyone like bill yeah and he's just so good like when he's doing stuff i just think oh my god like there's no push yeah there's no push at all and i was like i gotta i gotta cool it if i push on this

one i'll murder myself because you were just like i think when you're with somebody so good you're just like oh god don't don't be the don't be that one that's like, if they just want to calm down. So I really had to be like, don't geek out. I didn't want to get nervous and try too hard. I feel like he can smell it. You said this about someone else too, the pushing thing. So do you know that you have a propensity to push? I feel like I don't push as much as when I really

love my character I can get really like I just feel so strongly for them that if it's like if it's an injustice or whatever it is it's like I feel like sometimes it's just like you can't always

play it to 10 even though I'm like in my heart I feel like you it's just like you can't always play it to 10. Even though in my heart I feel like you have wronged her or whatever it is, I just feel like I love them so much that it's weirdly almost like me defending them. And I'm always like, just, you can't, everything can't be a crusade. So it's like something that I, you know. You can't slam the ball every time. You can't everything can't be a crusade yeah so it's like something that i you can't slam the ball every time you can't oh yes it's the same damn thing i don't have i don't have a great um gray area yeah it's you know it's right to well it's it's it's funny because like that like i was talking to my producer about it is that like you're one of those people now for me like will farrell you know who i think had almost a similar trajectory that like you know you guys did a lot

of stuff and then all of a sudden something but like i'll go see whatever you're in because i'll i'll wait for you to do the thing oh no what's the thing i don't know. Just to go, there's just moments where you'll just, you have a way of being funny that is so consistent and so unique. And you know when you do it. It's just when you pop. You don't do it in all the movies. I'm not trying to pigeonhole you. Right.

But you are, as a comic performer, you know how to be very funny very easily, which is a rare thing. Oh, thanks. I'm saying a good thing. I just hit you with a tennis ball. I respond, I feel weird. I'll hit him. That's right.

But you know what I mean? Yeah. And just certain characters it's like if i can dig my teeth in yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna break my teeth like i'm gonna go for like there's right that's what i mean that moment when you go for it it's just sort of like yeah and when you get you know when you either i can write them which is a amazing thing or when someone writes it for you and you're like that is the juiciest part and you're you know yeah you have i just feel like you have to go for it you have to i don't know

i always just think like i can't be afraid i'll do lesser versions but i always think i'll give you the one that's like to the moon just because you have to at least give it a swing. But it's so funny though, because like I talked to Pharaoh once and he doesn't give you nothing when he's talking. He'll just talk straight, you know, like, and it's almost like he goes out of his way to do it.

And he's one of those. Really? Yeah. Like he'll just like flat, you know, it's good. You know, he's having a nice conversation,

but you know, if you, if you're a fan of his, you just sit there going, what is it going to happen? Any second. It's good. It's going to happen. Because there's also something like when he's,

even when he's talking seriously that you're like, Bill Hader to me is, I feel like Bill must think I'm the strangest human being because he could be talking about like, I'm going to put my cat down. Like it could be something so terrible and i literally like cat he's like no my cat's really sick i'm like

like i have there's just certain people and like yeah there's just certain people that like i'm like i can't i don't think i've ever had a normal conversation. Every time I leave, I'm like, oh, God, Bill's got to think I'm just nuts. I'm like, he was just having a nice conversation. He was just being nice and we were having a normal conversation and I couldn't. And then I get more nervous because I know how much I laugh around certain people. Then it's like weird church laughing where church weird church laughing or like now i'm just like can't stop oh like i tears are coming down and they're just like yeah i don't think we're saying anything funny yeah well hater's another one of those guys he's like bill murray

he does operate it in different zones totally yeah well you got to go i don't know you got another thing yeah oh what are you doing i don't know what's after this. Oh, geez. All right. Well, good job on the movie. I'm going into your house. Oh, you're going to hang out? Okay, I'll be in here working on this. I'll meet you in there later. And it was great talking to you. It was really great talking to you.

And I love you. I love you on the show. Oh, thank you. I love it. Oh, thank you so much. That's nice. That's an awesome show. You want to do a part?

Should I drop your name over there? Oh, my God. Who do I fight? Yeah, I'll go. I'll fight you. You should. Can I fight you? That would be great.

I haven't fought yet. Maybe if we do another season. I'm just saying. I'll bring you up to the people. I'll just drop. I'll say, you know, Melissa. Throw it around the people. Just you and I really fighting.

Will you come in? I wonder if they could write around that. Oh, my God. And then they're going to be like, look, Mark, just do your job. You're not part of the production. All right, I'm going to let you go. Okay, this is great. That was fun.

I love her. Who doesn't love her? How can you not love her? Her new movie, Life of the Party, opens in theaters tomorrow. Music is forthcoming. We'll do it when I get back. I got this classical guitar in here, but I'm not going to. It seems when I move around in this room, the mic becomes an antenna of some kind that picks up radio stations.

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