Yannis Pappas Hour - Disappearing Scientists | YP Hour

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

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What's up, everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Janus Pappas hour number, who knows, inconsistent, enjoy it. There's no rules. I'm on the internet. There's no rules. I don't have to be weekly if I don't want to. I don't have to be biweekly if I don't want to. I can do the show when it is a financially viable. That's what this is called. The schedule is financially viable. It's financially viable. I'm totally okay. happy with it. Whatever it becomes, it becomes, this is my canvas, this is my outlet. This is my canvas. This is my canvas. This is my canvas. This is my journal.

Nobody's going to get to see it, you know? And then afterwards they look through it and they go, oh my God, look at this. Jesus Christ, what a tortured soul. No wonder he disappeared. He was doing, he was doing research for NASA. we will get to it. 11 people missing, killed, or killed. No, missing killed or disappeared.

And Rolling Stone, I'm sorry. Vanity Fair writes an article. This is where the breakdown between the mainstream and the internet happens, right? The mainstream still thinks that they're, they still think that they're, you know, went to Brown. They still think that because they went to Brown or because they went to Vassar, it's like we have a monopoly on truth because other people could not, could not conceivably have any instinct or questions that can't be verified by a couple of meetings

in a very good neighborhood over a macha. My sources met me in my very safe neighborhood and I wrote an article. I mean, these people live in a bubble. of bullshit. Most of these reporters don't leave their neighborhoods in Silver Lake or Boreham Hill in New York or the main line in Philadelphia, you know? But they have this air, this arrogance to them. So Vanity Fair puts out this article going like, of course the conspiracy.

Of course there's going to be a conspiracy. Look at how crazy this is. There's a conspiracy. Of course, right? And even when you look at COVID, you go like, my thinking of COVID is irrelevant. But I will say, obviously these people were flying by the seat of their pants at the very least, maybe even guilty, Fauci, guilty of game of function involvement in something. Who knows?

We don't know. But the questions are there. They're not crazy. But you remember that kind of arrogant, kind of like it's crazy. We all felt for it. A lot of us, some of us didn't. Doesn't mean the truth is that the COVID vaccine is going to turn you into a dead body. Because that was supposed to buy a lot of conspiracy theorists, you know, analysis.

That was supposed to have already happened. Some people were going like, everyone's going to be dead in two years. Well, it's been six. And look at me. I'm still here. Look at what would it be? It would be billions of people, right? It would be billions that got vaccinated.

So the data is not on your side as far as it being ultimately dangerous for the overwhelming majority. And when I say overwhelming majority, it's overwhelming majority. And I understand the way you think because you may know someone who knows someone who had an irregular heartbeat after they took the vaccine, but that it also doesn't mean that they wouldn't have had that irregular heartbeat if they got the if they got COVID or maybe it was the vaccine. Vaccines are not 100% safe. But and also we're prone to inflate exceptions. That's a, that's a, that's a, that's a bias. It's a cognitive bias.

We're prone to inflate exceptions and sort of, you know, it's sort of like the same way we go, four million people died. And it's like, it's not as bad as like, oh my God, 14 people died at this shootout. Right? Or like, oh my God, this person I knew died, this one person, because you knew them, then you inflate it. Four million just sounds like, hey, let's go get pizza. Right? It feels like, hey, 14 million people died anyway.

Didn't feel a thing. Pass me to turkey. Happy Thanksgiving. That's an out of season reference, but why not? First that came to my mind. So, you know, there's this game of bullshit happening on the internet with the independent creators and the old school journalists, you know, whatever, from the mainstream protests.

And it's this thing. It's this disdain that they have for one another that, um, produces a back and forth that I think doesn't, often, if not always, doesn't represent the, as close to the objective reality as we can come, which media, some media used to, right? We used to have some media like that, 60 minutes kind of stuff. But then they'll go, oh, remember 60 minutes, but Kamala, yeah, I do remember. So they edited a video, whatever.

Usually they do good work, okay? But there you are, elevating the exception, right? and throwing the baby out with the bathwater, which is what we do now because we're in a meme culture and we need extremes and we got to make a fucking wave, baby. You got to make a wave. And the way you do it is arguing and you argue with extremes and absolutes.

But this is what's happened. Vanity Fair puts the article out and they go, these dumb internet people. These dumb internet people. What? Of course, again. Rogan, rogan, rogan, rogan, rogan, rogan, rogan, rogu. Rogan, Rogan, Rogan, Rogan, Rogan, Rogan, Rogan.

Of course, Rogan. Of course, Rogan. Of course, Trump's in office because of Rogan. Of course, nobody wants to take the vaccine because of Rogan. It's all Rogan. Rogan's the new Rogan. Rogan's the new Rogan. So they say that on the internet.

Conspiracies boil over. And, blah, boil over us conspiracies in these people in this course. And then you look at the track where, and you go like, well, a lot of these things that were circulated online, there's some bigger questions, Epstein, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, that we all kind of just like, hmm, you know, 9-11, there's a lot of, hmm, right? People aren't that stupid. JFK is assassination.

There's some whom, right? You go, hmm. Otherwise, there wouldn't be so much, hmm, right? I'm trying to think of someone who died where there's not, hmm. Tony Gwynne. Tony Gwynne. First one, it came to my mind, right? Chewed tobacco, right?

Then got mouth cancer and died. There's no, hmm, and he was a pretty popular guy. There's no hmm to Tony Gwynn. Nobody's going, hmm? Nobody's going to Jews killed Tony Gwynn. So, you know, sometimes there's some fishy stuff, right? When you get to a period of four years, right? I think it's four years from 2022 or 2022 to 2026.

Probably the first one that caught the radar in 2022, either retrospectively or at the time. You know, 10, 11 scientists either being murdered, which is weird. Two of them were murdered, I think, if I remember correctly. Two of them, unsolved homicides. not by their wife or someone they knew, right? I mean, I watch the first 48, usually, right? It's someone you know, even if it's on the street.

It's very rare that it's just someone walks up to you and plums you. It's just not how it happens. Statistically, it's not part of human nature. There's no motivation to just randomly plug someone. It makes no sense. Even the most evil people usually serve their self. interest, there's no reason. Unless it's just an insane person. That happens, but also very infrequently, someone's going, oh my God, this person's got 5G in my head and follows him and shoots him.

But then we would have, that person's not smart enough to not get caught, right? The crazies always get caught, right? Son of Sam's going to get caught. And that was before they had all the technology they have now in the cameras and surveillance. But when two of them just get killed with gunshot once, you know, even the two. You go, okay, well, who killed them? And they go, we don't know, it's still unsolved. And you go, like, okay, that's what, but when you get to 10, you might start to go, hey, why is this not something that the news may have at least even hypothesized, right? Not saying it is, but wink, wink, I don't know, see, something's weird, right? And this is one of those things that the internet was making more of a stink about before the mainstream media kind of got it.

And the FBI now says, but I mean, Cash Patel is ahead of the FBI. So, I mean, Duffy's going to get to things late, right? Because he, Officer Duffy is busy trying to fulfill. He's Trump's lap dog and he's trying to figure out how he can indictment Romney. That's the number one thing. Trump just probably goes in every day and just go, give me more on how they tried to steal the election from. That's all he cares about with him and with Tulsi Gabbard. And, you know, it's like, what, that's the price you pay for wanting a high profile job? Ask Don Bonjano. You know, you got to sell a little

bit. And then you realize, oh, I'm just an extension of Trump's ego. I'm not an agent of truth. I'm not keeping the streets safe for everyone. I am fulfilling a specific agenda. He comes in, he goes, hey, we got 14 missing girls in Tennessee. One of my bureau chiefs just brought this to me, and Trump goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell me more about Comey. What can you tell me about, you know, Barack Obama's involvement?

Tell me more about, I want, let's keep relitigating. I want to be vindicated. Find me those votes. You know what I'm talking about. If you know, you know, find me those votes. So he's a cross-eyed fucking re- You know, it looks like he's playing character. Supposedly he's drinking a lot, he's under stress.

Because at some point you're going to realize that you got hired because you're a lap dog. You didn't get, you got hired because of your loyalty. You didn't get hired because you were valued as this, you know, highly credentialed candidate. is your officer doofy from scary movie. The comparison is uncanny, right? And he's sitting there and he's drinking now. And, you know, he probably has to deal with that. He probably has to deal with a lot of bring me more on Brennan.

Was that his name? Brennan, one of the other guys, yeah. Bring me more. Him and Tulsi, they probably get a call every day. And Tulsi's going, we got a massive, massive Al-Qaeda threat coming. He goes, give me more on Hillary. Give me more on Brennan. Give me more on Comey.

Give me more. Well, I want to prosecute. And then the chick from Florida, you're like, she's not, you like, you didn't do a good enough job of making me look amazing. So you're out. Right. And they realize, I think at a certain point, you know, Marjorie Taylor Green, who's the other one? You know, they realize like, oh, this is an egomaniac. He's a narcissist.

And I'm here to just serve his public image. He's caking off in the, it's the most financially corrupt president we've ever had as far as like the amount of money he's making in office. He's not even waiting. He just waited for his second term and he said, let's go. Most people wait until they're done or they hide it better. That's the thing about Trump is it's so hard to get him on something because it's just all out in the open. And then when you ask him about it, he'll just gaslight you to death. And then he's funny on top of it.

The one thing you can give him is that he's funny. He's very funny, but he did not divest from his businesses. They were placed in a trust run by his sons. Financial disclosures show over $1.6 billion in revenue income from his business while he was president. His company, the Trump Organization, brought in roughly $650 million between 2017 and 19, 450 during the pandemic drop in 2020. But now he's got at least $7.5.000. $1.8 million from foreign governments spent at Trump businesses during his pregnancy.

He's pregnant with freedom, brother. He's pregnant with freedom. He's pregnant with defending us from the invasions. Estimates range up to $160 million from international business dealings. While he's in office, foreign officials frequently stayed at Trump's Washington, D.C. hotel, raises constitutional questions about the, mullions cloth. The Secret Service and federal agency spent money at Trump's own properties,

$1.4 million in Secret Service lodgings, 10 plus million spent at a Trumpist. I mean, this guy makes Alon Omar look legit. He effectively routed taxpayer and donor money into his private companies. His children continued operating and promoting the brand, expanded license deals, hotels branding. According to Forbes, his network. fell from about 3.7 minute to 2.5 during his presidency. Why? Yeah, that was the first presidency.

The first, um, um, that was the first, um, first, uh, tenure. That's the right word. Um, most presidents, divester used blind trust. Trump kept ownership of, um, his global business empire. This created situations where governments, lobbyists, and political actors could spend money at the property. Billions in business revenue flowed through Trump-owned companies while he was president. Tens of hundreds of millions likely came from politically connected sources, foreign governments. I mean, he's the only guy who just like took a plane from Qatar. It's like, sure, I'll take the gift. Does this mean I got to give you free?

Is this free? It's just a nice, you know, it's just a present for my wife because we've been together so long. I'll just take it. It's just nice. I don't need anything. Qatar doesn't want anything in return, bro. Billions in business revenue flowed through Trump's own companies while he's president. So I don't think there's been a president who's gotten richer while he was president.

Because you're kind of supposed to divest while you're president. He has it. Whatever. Okay. I know there's going to be some Trump lovers on here. Fine. Maybe I'm wrong. Come on.

I mean, are you that blind? this is what politicians do. He happened to be a businessman going in, so maybe it's a little, the wheels of grease a little faster and quicker, of course. He didn't have to wait for a book deal to make his millions or an absolute flop of a Netflix deal. How much guaranteed did the Obama get from Netflix

to create nothing? To create nothing. Who knows? I don't know. Tax right off. I don't know why Netflix did it. How much you did it? How much did they get?

How much? How much did a higher ground? How much did the high ground? We take the high ground. The high ground meaning we live on top of the hill because we were in a mansion up there. The Obama's got paid a lot from Netflix. They got a lot of money. It was a couple.

It was a few more shekels than you would think. It was a 2019 deal that was worth 90 million. Total. Most analysts of media estimates commonly place around 50 to 70 mil. Whoopsy. For higher ground. Take the higher ground. We take the moral higher ground for 50 million.

I will take the moral higher ground for 50 million. Okay. Whatever's paying, I'll take the moral high ground. I will take the moral high ground, whatever's paying. Um, she didn't start. And they produced content through their higher ground company productions. And they did some documentaries. Um, they did a bunch of documentaries.

They produced a bunch of series. You know, because you want experienced content, you want to experience content producers like Michelle and Barack Obama doing it. Because, you know, they did a lot of the day to day. They did a lot of the day to day. So if you're going to give, they did a kids cooking show Waffles and Mochi with Michelle Obama, nobody remembers, didn't really do anything. Add a twist scientist, kid STEM show.

We the people working what we do all day are great national parks, the G word with Adam Konova, Bodkin, and they did some documentaries that you know that you really needed the Obamas to be able to produce. because the Obamas have a long track record of documentary production, constantly making documentaries. So I'm sure it wasn't just under their umbrella, and I'm sure they didn't allocate, they didn't sub-allocate to some experienced documentary makers

and pay them and take a large chunk for themselves for nothing, for a name that has nothing to do with entertainment. nothing to do entertainment a political name anyway we get sidetracked this show can

should be called sidetracked because what happens off is I go down a road and then I realize that road's not paved and I'm lost

and I go okay Google and then I get no service what where did where did I start this from where were we what were even talking about

we were talking about the scientists that's right We would talk about, yeah, Netflix doesn't release profit numbers. So, who knows? But my point is you needed the Obamas to do those documents. Only the Obama's could have those documentaries. Talk about a pivot, right?

That's like me deciding, retiring, being famous as a comedian. I'm just saying hypothetically. And they, and then I'm going to retire and they go, you know what, we need you to start making astrophysicist documentaries. We need you to start making documentaries about Chicago. We need you to start making children's shows. All right. One plus one equals two.

It's always going to be a Jew. That's more for conspiracy theories. There should be some conspiracy theory shows for kids. Right? How do you know your three-year-old's not a conspiracy theorist? You got to watch it to figure out if he likes it. Put it on. One plus one always equals Jew.

Not two but Jew. So you have this thing, right? Where it's the internet and Vanity Fair putting out this article, you know, kind of making fun the internet for, of course, thinking there's some conspiracy, um, which, listen, maybe there's not, right? But, but, but for vanity fair to just assume, like just, you know, what, this isn't weird to you? You know, it's not weird. You know, and then they put out their convenient facts going like, well, the wife of one said, I want to dispel a lot of disinformation here. Um, you know, there was some mental health struggles here.

But you're going like, look, man, we are a pattern reading species. That's how the brain works, not much different than AI, very similar. We read patterns. A lot of times and often we're wrong. That's the thing about the human species. We're a pattern recognizing,

uh, that's our, our cognition is based on pattern recognition, right? And we often are bad at reading patterns. But sometimes the patterns get to be 11. You know, we might be bad at three. We might be bad at four. You know, it gets to a point where it gets to be,

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let me just say, let me do a little pattern recognition for you. Let's take a historical example, the Catholic Church. How did the Catholic Church scandal start? Rumors, personal experiences that were isolated that nobody talked about because they were embarrassed, then how did it start? Victim testimony, one here, one there. That's what we call independent victim testimony. And then what does that do? That finally, as the slow cogs of justice start turning, start going, hmm, we're starting to notice somewhat of a pattern. I got five, or in the Catholic Church's case, a couple hundred thousand.

You know, independent victim statements is important because it means it could suggest a pattern because there's no knowledge of the other one. And you're seeing consistent patterns, which is what Epstein started out with. A few independent, some not independent, but a few or more independent. victim testimonials. And that's how it starts, right? And then from there, they go, start looking into things. And it takes a while.

This priest got transferred. Why? Now, in the Catholic Church's case, there was documentation, right? Going, oh, there's this accusation and we did this. Why? Because nobody ever questions the church. They're separate from all laws and taxes or whatever. You can do whatever.

Nobody's going to question because father will go, you're a sinner. Who's going to question the father, the moral authority, right? Or the church's authority. You can see that going back through history what fucking Henry had to go through. Remember what Henry had to go through? I mean, this fucking day and age, in this fucking day of age, they won't let me have a fucking new gama. The kid just wanted to marry his guma, right?

Henry just wanted to marry his fucking guma. In this fucking day and age, a Catholic church fucking put up a fight, and I had to fucking deal with them. So it took, you know, what was it, the Boston Globe with their big report finally kind of synthesizing all this information over years. And years later, it turns out there was a pattern. So maybe Epstein is a nothing burger. And when I say maybe I'm being what you call a rhetorical asshole, right? Because a lot of times if you're smart, you know that independent victim testimonial is a big, big deal.

Right? starts to unravel a pattern. The difference is, like I said, Catholic Church, documenting because nobody was checking on the, nobody runs checks on the church's internal documents, right? In this case, you have the actual elites who run the world from different fields, different walks of life, entertainment, top of that, science, universities,

politicians, foreign figures, former prime ministers, right? These guys are savvy on how to not have paper trails, you know? They just like meaning for pizza and talking about it, a lot.

Like I'll always say to Jesse, I won't go, you want to eat some? I'll say, we're having pizza and grape soda and make sure my chef has all that fucking beef jerky ready for me. Pounds and pounds of homemade beef jerky. Maybe it is. Maybe these multi-millionaire elites, billionaires with their own islands. Maybe they love grape drink.

You know, I don't know. I don't know how much they're hanging out with Charlie Murphy. Maybe they just love grape soda, dog. I've never met a white person that does. I've met a lot of black people who do, but I've never met one white person who asked me about grape soda. let alone a conversation with my urologist about let's meet for fucking pizza and grape soda. I don't know.

Maybe it's not weird. I don't know because I'm not an elite. So I don't know. In my experience, they drink things like Pellegrino, you know, the blood of children, but not grape soda. So I don't know. Like you're going to make fun of people for thinking that's weird? That's some mysterious billion. who grinded his way to the top through such hard work.

I mean, the hard work, what was it? Two years out of nowhere at Dalton or one or two years at Dalton with no degree, which shouldn't have been allowed to happen, which is weird. No prior experience either. And then a year at Wall Street, like kind of, what? Where is he? And then all of a sudden just entrusted. Next job is entrusted with all Lex Weggner's money and houses.

And here's my house for freight. My house is yours for free. Living it, it's yours. Grind harder, bro. Grind harder. All I see is a self-made hardworking kid from Brooklyn, whose dad worked for the Parks Department. Who, by the way, is supposedly this like, you know,

everyone's like he was a genius. Was he? There wasn't a Chinese kid who was better at numbers than fucking, than fucking this kid. You couldn't find me one. I bet you I could find you some. fucking 14-year-old violinist violinist Chinaman

who plays the violin and does math better than this run of the mill he was good at math he was very good at math so you know what that means Lex Weggner and of course according to Lex Weggner just like

he was completely sandbacked what an idiot right what a naive idiot Lex Weggner is especially with money I mean the guy's no good with money. That's the thing. That's what makes it so believable is Lex Wexer's just no good with money. No good with money at all. I mean, just a guy who was just losing money left and right. He couldn't keep, just not a guy who seemed very concerned with business. I mean, the prime target for a scam.

Just the prime target for a quote unquote financial mogul. Just he seems. like a real dumb guy, Lex Wegener. You know? Seems like a real dumb guy. That's how you get as rich as Lex Weggner by being stupid. By not being able to read people. That's why he goes, I had no idea. You saw a testament?

I didn't know. It's taken for a riot. I didn't. I had no idea. I had no idea what this guy was up to. I didn't ask him. I just gave him. my, the biggest townhouse in New York City.

The biggest, most expensive townhouse in New York City was, I just said, take this. But I thought, I just thought he was going to clean it, keep track of things, living it when I wasn't there, you know, when me and the wife wanted to come. I didn't know. I didn't know this kid. It's like, you know, it's like, there was that murder in New York by the guy who was the jeweler. he was the jewelers quote unquote adopted son from Florida but he was a criminal he ended up killing someone ended up killing another kid his name was uh jeffrey rackover and he had uh this kid

that he was put up in an apartment building on the upper east side and he told everybody this is my this is my long-lost son or no my friend but really what was happening was this kid was giving his asshole, literal asshole, to this older rich man for money. That's what it was. And this kid was a criminal kid from Florida and he ended up killing and chopping up someone. So, you know, there's this story and then there's the reality. So before the murder, you know, and nobody goes into the private. I don't know what's going on.

He just said he was his good friend. It was just his good friend. He was just his good friend who was 40 years young. and hot and good looking and he's just his friend and he put him in an apartment and you know so you know he's just my it's my protege what did he do he let me fuck his asshole is what he did he was gay for pay is what he was um so they say different things right than the true thing right because they have a reputation to uphold got to keep up appearances and whatever.

So, what was my original point? That's the question we all want to know. Because I got sidetracked by the Epstein. I remember when I got sidetrack, but the problem is I never know what precedes the sidetrack. That's a tough one. So the sidetrack was on Epstein and the grape soda. I got it now.

So the point is there's no paper trail because these people, people are in charge of society, right? Basically, the joke that I made is we've done a thorough review of the Epstein Files and we have found that we are completely innocent. And anyone who isn't incident, innocent, or appears to be not innocent is someone I personally as president of the United States don't care about. I mean, sums up, dude, they were close friends. I don't know.

Not just him. It seems like something's going on. Seems like something's going on. And you're going to, you look down at people on the internet for having questions, right? It's interesting. Right? Because then you go, wait a second.

That guy said that he was his, he was his adopted son. And you go, and you go, wait, isn't that a lie? It goes, yeah, I mean, we don't call. call it a lie. We call it, you know, we call it life. We call it living. We call it, I wanted to fuck this kid I saw at the gym, who was a criminal from Florida. And to be able to fuck him regularly and have it not look crazy, I had to get him his own high, high society apartment on the Upper East Side. And I didn't have to ask any questions about his background,

his criminal background there was because I just wanted to fuck his asshole. I mean, it's as simple as that. And I do it all the time. I probably got 12 other 20-year-olds in other buildings, right? So that's it. That's how, that's the official story. It was my son. It's another son.

So that's what he would tell everyone. That's what you'd tell the dormant. That's what you'd tell everybody else. You know, long lost son or the story would change a little bit. but we know what was going on, right? So that's how it works. I'm just bringing it up as an example as there's one official story and then there's a reality,

especially when it comes to people who have wealth. And people who have wealth tend to often do untoward things because they have the apparatus to do it, right? Like if I was to get what, one more speeding ticket, I would lose my license, I'd be worried. But if I was wealthy, I'd keep driving. Is that a good example? You know what I'm saying? Like, whatever. Just make up a story. You know? It's how the world works. Yes, that's how the world works. Yes. Like two plus two equals four, that's how the world works. Undoubtedly, it's very few like really moral, very wealthy people I've

where I've been like, I am just impressed with how Jesus is like you are. You got to be very cutthroat to get up there. I'm not saying it's better good. It's just a consequence of what it takes to be a killer in this world. So you can't knock people for having questions and conspiracy when you get to 11. All right. So if any fair, does 11 scientists are dead or miss. it was only a matter of time before conspiracy theories hit the White House.

And then I read the article and it's very like, there's very good explanations. Like, you know, a bat fuck the penguin and the penguin fuck the thing. It's very good explanation. There was a wet market there. Yes, they happen to be doing gain of function research on coronavirus. They're creating, you know, more potent, more potent mutine. of coronavirus. Yes, that was happening right next door

to the wet market as well. Yes. But what had happened was a bat fucking flew into a guy's vagina and the guy had a vagina, which is weird, but it's not crazy. And then that gay guy got fucked by a monk. You know, it's like AIDS. It's like, is AIDS?

Did it arise naturally in nature? Just this sort of virus? that mutated so fast that they couldn't, you know, couldn't kill it? And it just so happened to destroy your immune system, like, completely, like, seems like a super bug. Was there a, was there a paranoid government in Africa at that time that didn't like the demographic numbers? I'm asking questions.

I'm asking questions. Or did somebody fuck a monkey? It's very possible. I mean, I'm not saying it didn't. I don't know. I'm sure there's a very good explanation that I don't understand. And that's another thing is I'll never be able to understand it, which is always good for them.

They go, you don't understand. You don't understand. And maybe that's so. You understand there was a microbe. Once you start using the word microbe, I'm gone. So, and most people are just gone. And it's very possible that someone had sex with a monkey or ate some corroded monkey brains.

That does happen there. Very, very. I just don't know if it would do something. Does it create something that lethal that just slices down one particular population? I don't know. I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying I'm sure the South African government

or Rhodesia wasn't crazy upset about it. Right? I don't know. it's not unhealthy to ask the questions is all I'm saying where conspiracy theories go wrong often and I don't suffer from this I really don't I don't I really rare I don't I have to say I give myself credit I don't suffer from this I don't draw conclusions on what I don't know I do not ignore the questions I don't know what they mean and I also accept the fact that we may never know what they mean, and that's why maybe those people do it.

Who knows? It's very hard to catch someone. It's very easy to propagandize anything. So I don't know. But I think that's where conspiracy theorists usually make it so easy to be written off, made fun of. It's because they end up drawing your own because they think they're so smart. and it's like they're going on knowledge they don't know. I'll never mention things I don't know.

I just will bring up the questions and go, they're there. The questions are there. That is the context. That was the context at the time that HIV came to be. You know, that was the context. That's where it came out of the overwhelming majority of people who were affected by that happened to be the people that maybe the South African government at the time wouldn't be upset about. I don't know. Or somebody had a love affair with a chimp over a glass of rosé and got a bug possible.

There's always been conspiracy theories, right? Who knows? A lot of them end up. And then there's also sometimes you go, are there siops up there that create crazy ones like flat earthers in order to discredit the other ones? that's not out of the realm of possibility either. That's not out of the realm of possibility. People are smart. People who are in the business of manipulation, I mean, there is,

first of all you have to acknowledge that there is a business of manipulation. All you got to do is know a little bit about Bernays to know that there's a business of manipulation and it's very beneficial for the people who employ it, right? And that it works. That's another thing you have, you know, it works. We all think we're so smart. next thing you know, you're wearing Nike's and you're going, how did this happen? Right? Or the next thing you know, I'm calling nicotine pouches in, even when it's not a Zen. And you go, why does this

happen? Or you're putting a Band-Aid on, you're calling it a Band-Aid, even though it's an adhesive. It's a medical adhesive. And you go, how did this happen? Or you go, I got to rent the U-Haul. And you go, how did that happen? Or you go, can I have a Coke? And you go, how did that happen? It's a cola. Why does nobody ever say, can I have a cola? Right? So you know, you have to at least know that, and then you can also go and study how Bernays was employed by people outside of the advertising business for a couple of pep talks. I want to pick this guy's brain a little bit. Right?

So you got to first admit that this is out there, and it's part of reality because it is. So asking questions is completely fine. And one of the good things about the internet is it has, you know, democratized power in a lot of ways. It's democratized information for better and worse. But what does come with better that doesn't come with worse? Of course you were going to see fucking fake accounts going, fuck you, idiot.

I mean, it's just the bad is going to come with the good. But there is a lot of good that has come out of the internet as well. Right? one example off the top of my head an internet sleuth was able to find gabby pettito's killers van that's just one tiny example of a long list of things that the internet did which is positive right another one is it enabled the character morissa which brought joy to a lot of people and frustration to a lot of other people who wanted to try to fucking say it but they couldn't because the people speak on behalf of loved it.

That's what the internet did. So Bernays did play a major role in shaping government propaganda and public opinion in the 20th century, right? He worked for the committee on public information. A U.S. government body created to build public support for entering a war. Engineering consent is one of his biggest contributions to society. Bernays believed Democratic society needed skilled communicators to shape public opinion. He called this idea engineering consent, meaning you say yes, but we led you to say yes.

We gave you a worst choice. We created the market for you. I'm on a sailboat. Are you sad? I'm on a sailboat and are you sad? Right? You're going, I don't get this, dude. This doesn't appeal to me at all because I never sail.

And you're going like, you're right. they're stupid they don't know about the subconscious they don't know that the happy your brain interpice it as happy is free they don't know archetypes they don't know they don't know Freud was wrong

Young was Roy and all it's all bullshit you're right you're right fucking grab your fucking cross you know grab you Torah and fucking do whatever you do you know there's no there's nothing to human psychology There's nothing to cognitive biases.

There's nothing to the subconscious. There's nothing to, there's no loopholes. There's no vulnerabilities that can be exploited. All you got to do is meet one magic frisbee. What's those guys' names? David Blaine or the other guy? Ouse. Right?

They just both happen to be frisbys. So that's why I say it. Nothing against, I'm not saying the whole group. I'm saying two magician kind of, median guys and you go that they're telling me the thing about as I respect

he's going like it's not magic I'm tricking you I'm manipulating you I'm a con man but I'm not I'm being nice about it and doing it for entertainment and says he was saying

and I have no idea how he did it except for the fact that we figured out that he puts some sort of mirror thing on our phone you know

for the first one but I tell you what there was another one that I had no idea how he did no actually that was all he did and he put a mirror

on her phone he didn't do anything I don't know how he got fucking Joe Rogan's pin number neither does Joe. So, but it's not magic.

We have loopholes. Magicians will tell you that. It's slight a hand. We have loopholes that they know about and that they exploit because our mind is not an accurate video camera. We are biased. We are attention changes. Slight a hand is that. Someone goes, hey, I'm a good guy.

I'm a good guy. And then they're biting your tit off. Right? Nobody bites your tit off by walking up to you and going, hey, I'm going, I'm going to bite your tit off. That's not how Jeffrey Dahmer did it. He went, hey, I'm Jeffrey Dahmer. I'm Jeffrey Dahmer. I mean, Army's hurting.

Are you a great big fat person? Can you get in my Volkswagen Beetle? I can't even drive. You know? And then your tits off. Then you lose a tit. Then you're going to lose a tit. But there's no, there's no.

evil moves easiest when it calls itself good. Evil never announces itself. She says, hey, I'm here for bad stuff, because then you can't pull any bad stuff off. It's always chicanery. It's always trickery. So people should question, right? They shouldn't draw conclusions that they can't possibly know.

They can have fun with them, right? You can have fun with them. But once you start earnestly, drawing conclusions based on things you don't actually know past the question, that's when you end up into dangerous territory where you are very vulnerable to lose your mind and shoot yourself in the face if you happen to be doing some sort of engineering for NASA. Let's look at this list of people. Let's look at this list of people and see who they are.

Let's take a peek. I want to take a peek. Do you want to take a peak? People who are watching this? I think you want to take a peek. We have the most recent, Neil William McKastland, who was a retired U.S. Air Force General

linked to space programs. He was last seen in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Let me just tell you some. If you live in Albuquerque, New Mexico, you're doing one of two things. You're either making meth or you're working on reverses. engineering UFO aircraft.

That's all is happening in the desert of New Mexico. So if you're not making meth because you have cancer and you want your family to have millions and millions of dollars, you're working for the government in some high clearance capacity. Then we got Michael David Hicks, three names. Already we know he's somebody. If you got three names, you're somebody. You grew up with a family that had a portrait of an ancestor in the foyer, painted, commissioned from the 1700s.

He was a NASA jet propulsion laboratory scientist. You know, scientists often live of that gangster life. So a lot of times, a lot of them, you know, will just disappear or be shot. They live a very dangerous life. Life is tough in the hood of Albuquerpe, New Mexico. So he disappeared, not publicly disposed. Just, that was 2023, Michael David Hicks. Monica Jacinto Reza.

Aerospace engineer, also NASA affiliate. So two NASA-affiliated scientists, engineer. She disappeared during a hike in California. Okay. Now, here's the rub. It was, it wasn't, she wasn't alone, right? Like there was other hikers around, but somehow mysteriously disappeared. Okay, could have been, she got eaten quickly by bear.

But, you know, again, no bones, no, nothing, nothing. They have nothing. Again, from the beginning of the episode, I watched the first 48. Usually there's something, right? The thing is all of these are not solved. So that's also interesting at the very least, right? Anthony Chavez, 2025, nuclear research engineer. He vanished leaving belongings behind.

Just took a walk. Status missing. Missing. Much like Monica, Jacinto, Reza, missing. Do we have a pattern yet? I don't know. Two missing. It's vanished.

Right? Now, of course, we're a pattern. We're a pattern reading species. Our brain works on reading patterns. Often we get that wrong, right? Right? If I start thinking about a girl that I'm in love with, I will see girls that remind me of that girl all over the place.

I know that. So maybe we're doing that, right? Maybe we're doing that. What are we at? So maybe we're doing that. Maybe we're going, okay, they all happen to be, you know, high clearance or, you know, scientists working with NASA, you know, aerospace stuff, NASA affiliated, whatever. So it's just I'm, I'm seeing my ex-girlfriend everywhere at this point.

Until you get to five. Until you get to Melissa Cassius. But then you go, oh, she was. only administrative staff at Los Alamos lab. So she wasn't, she was just staff. Not a scientist. So you're going, okay, that's fine. And the evidence suggests foul play.

But again, I want to say evidence says foul play, but no theory, no crime, no solved. These are all unsolved, right? Then you go, that was just an administrative system. And you go, everyone's my ex-girlfriend. And then this one, coincidence, just administrative system. Then you do the pattern. You go, wait.

But all of them are unsolved. Nobody knows anything about it. It's all mysterious. No bodies. No bodies. Right? No bodies. Can I say like that?

Or am I being crazy? There's no bodies? Haven't found? Didn't they find Hassam Hussein? Didn't they find eventually Osama bin Laden? no bodies. Did anyone start looking? First 48.

Again, first day, did they look? They have any theories. Unsolved means like, suspected foul play. But from whom did they follow up? I mean, you can interview people. Did she have an ex-boyfriend? You know, 99.7% of the time it's someone you know.

So it's like, did they cut someone off in traffic? Was there anything? So all we have is evidence to just foul play. Again, missing. Not a body found, missing. So the ones that weren't murdered are missing. And you go, okay, that's one, two, three in a row that are missing. That happen to be in, you know, related fields.

And then we come around to 2025. And we lose Nuno Lullario. We lose Nuno. And you know his Ma was not happy about that. And first of all, you know if we lose Nuno, we really lost him because his mom put a tracker on his phone to keep tracks with Nuno at all times and was constantly convincing him to move back home. She wanted him home.

Nuno! So Nuno Lullario was murdered. And he happened to be an em. MIT physicist. These guys got a lot of enemies out there. I don't know if you're familiar with the rivalry between physics. I mean, he was shot outside his home. He was shot outside his home.

Again, I don't want to read too much into the pattern, but unsolved. And then we get to number eight. And now you're starting to go, okay, I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist. but we lose Amy Eskridge. And I'm jumping around because Amy was 2022. That's one of the first two. I think we lost two in 2022. So it's been four years.

And she was an energy researcher in aerospace. So she's a scientist. And that one was ruled a suicide. That one was ruled of suicide. Okay. So okay. That could happen. They got big brains.

They think too much. That one may be unrelated. maybe. And then we get to Frank Maywalt in 2024, who was a NASA JPL engineer, unsolved. Not publicly disclosed. Just missing. Just disappeared.

Then we get to Carl Grilmere, who was a Caltech astronomer, recently deceased. I don't know the details on that one. Um, he's included in some media lists, but we'd have to, I'll detail, I'll look up, we'll look it up. Um, and, um, there's some other individuals that included in lists like contractors, assistants or researchers, a pharmaceutical researcher found that after going missing, um, that they may be lumping in conspiracy theorists, which is, they could be, um, um, um, you know, going to, um,

going a little too far. It's very possible. People die. People go missing all the time. No, they don't, but people go missing a lot. They don't just go missing, missing. I mean, very rare. Someone just goes missing missing without being found or anything or suspected dead because of interviews with people or something. It's very rare. So let's just do one follow-up and find out Maywald, who is, it says not publicly disclosed. What does that mean? What would that mean?

How did he die? Frank Malwood, how did he die? Savannah Guthrie's mother has gone missing and they haven't figured it out. So people are going missing. His death has never been publicly disclosed, which is odd. No autopsy.

reports were made public. There's been no detailed statement from NASA or the authorities. So that doesn't imply anything necessarily, but I don't know. I know how a few of my friends died, right? I know one of them had cancer. I know another one was, I know how another one was taken. I know how a few, you know, we don't really know what's going on with Savannah Guthrie's mother. Now, I don't think she worked for NASA, right? But people are going missing. Is this odd?

Let's see. Let's find out. I don't want to jump the gun. Are people, high-profile people, profile people going missing common? Because, you know, her mother's pretty, she's high-profile, very high-profile. She's very high-profile.

hard to get more famous than her the daughter on TV you know um here's my question here's my point jesse here's my point jesse most are resolved quickly often within days so we have 10 here that well in all fairness what was it four or five or six that um are not resolved or i guess yeah the ones that were the murders where the one shot outside the house isn't resolved either, and the missing person isn't resolved there. So admittedly, most are resolved quickly. First 48, often within days. Hundreds of thousands of reports each year,

but most are resolved quickly. That's what I find odd, right? Amongst other things. But that's one of the, that's probably the most odd one. So this is, so this even chat CBT right now is being a little, most high profit appearances fall into normal categories, accidents, hiking, travel. But yeah, you'd find a fucking body. Health issues, suicide.

You'd find a fucking body. What does it mean? Who's to blame? Who benefits the most if there is? Let's just say, let's pretend. Again, I'm not saying there is because I can't do that. I don't know. But let's pretend who benefits the most, right?

Who's the most interested in this? I think bored housewives want to get something cooking in their life. Getting a thrill out of it. Reading the news every day going these stupid people still haven't figured it out. I think this is a cult, right? What if it's like one of these like Midwestern? I don't know why those people are so gullible. It's always like those Germanic,

the descendants of Germanic midwesterners, follow a guy named Joe into the desert who claims to be Jesus. First of all, if your name's Joe, I'm not following you anywhere. They have some sort of Mormon cult or whatever, you know, and they're like a little threatened by what science is doing to their spirituality or whatever. They don't like science. And they go, you know what, let's have a little fun. Let's have a little fun.

And let's make the news and have a giggle about it. That is my conclusion. That's my conclusion. That's what I'm sticking to. I'm going to write a blog about it, and I'm going to tweet about it, and hopefully it'll go viral. So the point of this episode is I've just noticed this hardline maligning happening from both sides. And I don't think it's constructive, you know, for finding. So basically the Vanity Fair article was saying, like, of course, it was about time before it reached the right house,

because Trump's an internet guy, internet conspiracy theories. He's the king of conspiracy theories, which he is, I guess, you know, the birther movement, which was ridiculous. Maybe it wasn't. I don't know. It seems like it was. They just think that he's a buffoon and all his people are buffoons. Sometimes they're not wrong about that.

But they just write it off and they go, this is bullshit. Whereas the internet is going like, hey, you know, is this weird? now. So like if we get to 15, does that be weird? And just why don't one of them, why isn't one of them resolved? That's the thing. It's not resolved. It's not resolved. It's like if I had to burn my penis and, you know, people go, you got, you got syphilis or you got chlamydia, right? You go, how do you know that? well, based on this pattern of people with burns. And you go, you don't know that. And you go, how many people?

And they go, I could think of at least 10. I could, you know, I asked Chat ChachyPT and Chat Chachabit said there was at least 10 people who had similar symptoms who ended up having chlamydia or gonorrhea, right? Or syphilis. You go, that's pretty solid pattern recognition. If you could get to 10. Go maybe if at least 10, maybe that's true.

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