Yannis Pappas Hour - Ending War with Comedy (Raanan Hershberg)
Episode Date: June 20, 2024Yanni is joined by Raanan Hershberg who has a new stand up special that is out now! They cover how awkward it’s been for Raanan in yellow taxis, if the wives of leaders are responsible for the curre...nt wars, and have a silly ole time. Watch his special here: https://youtu.be/gMz4nrdX9w8?feature=shared Come hang with Yanni & Jesse for their casual, weekly bonus episodes here: https://www.patreon.com/yannispappashour?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator Support our Sponsors: Freeze Pipe Visit  https://thefreezepipe.com and use code YANNIS for 10% off your entire order.
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Ronan
Hirschberg he's got a special out right now. It's premiering
When if you're watching this Thursday tonight, and then it's up on YouTube
After that so go watch it. I'll go check him out. He's a hilarious comedian
I hope you enjoy this. Patreon.com
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To the fake politics and the propaganda.
Give this kid screwed in, got a lot to say.
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What's up everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Yanis Papas hour. Hey numbers going back up on YouTube
We got our strong loyal following on Spotify the real people who work jobs
Listen, this is what I think the people on YouTube their fair weather they tune in they tune out
It depends on what you the comment
But you've got the hardcore people listening in their cars
We all know they're Hondas and Subarus and I'm happy to be the president of the Hyundai Subaru crowd
We got a very hilarious comedian here today. I'm gonna say right now for the algorithm on YouTube. He's got a special out
Yep, let's start it with that. So people know that's the reason you're here. You're not here because fucking we got we went to Jewish camp
together. I would have gone on anyway. But well, this was two
hours away from my home. But anyone who comes here is not
big enough to say no. That's what I always think. And I was
like, I was like, do we come all the way here? Yeah. And that
was another thing where I'm going, wow, Louie has really
fallen. Personally, he's in here? Yeah, and that was another thing where I'm going, wow, Louie has really fallen. First of all, he's in here,
and second of all, he's trying to flush the toilet.
But yeah, I got a special called Brave on YouTube.
Go to my YouTube, and my name's hard to spell,
so if you can't spell my name,
you can go, I created a website
that takes you to the YouTube thing.
It makes it sound a little retarded,
but it's bravespecial.com.
Bravespecial.com, because your name is pronounced,
not Rainin. A lot of people wanna do rainin'.
A lot of people, yeah.
But then you want them to know
that you're neutral in the Israel-Palestine,
you go, my name is Rananna.
I, I, I just, I was getting an Uber
and it was an Arab driver, he's like,
what's that name, Ranann?
And I was like, I don't know, I don't know what it is.
It's, my parents thought of it plain Scrabble, I don't know.
It's a great name, dude, Ronan?
Yeah, I mean it is Israeli.
Yeah, Ronan, yeah, it's Israeli, you're a Jewish guy.
Ronan, that's like, you expect a big fucking tough dude
to walk in the room and hear Ronan's coming over,
and then you walk in, you hit him with the...
I live up to that completely.
Yeah, you come in, you got comedic energy and...
It's tough having an Israeli name and every Uber driver...
Well, right now, right now, stop that Israeli name.
Every Uber driver is pretty much Arab.
It's always gonna be a little weird in the yellows.
It's gonna be a little weird in the yellows, yeah.
Yeah.
I'll be on the phone talking about Israel, then I'll get on the Uber and I'll be like,
I have to talk, we'll talk later.
It's funny, you're on the phone with your mom
and you gotta pretend like it's someone else.
Yeah, the bank's calling, yeah, no, no, no,
that's cool, my account still has that.
You got all these codes for I'll meet you for dinner.
Yeah.
The bank, I got four dollars left, yeah, okay.
Trying to hide my Jewishness.
Over-tipping like crazy.
It's okay because as you explained it,
this special's gonna bring people together.
It's gonna end that conflict.
It's gonna bring peace to the Middle East.
That's what everyone in the comedy community's saying,
is saying this special will end it,
it'll be in the history books.
This will drop.
You're ending it, yeah.
And there will be no more conflict
between people who have different religions
or border disputes.
Yeah, everyone else is trying to get like views.
I'm going to the next level to try to bring global peace.
Yeah, dude.
Fuck the views.
Since you've announced your special Ukraine and Russia,
fucking violence down, things have cooled down.
You even saw Putin come and say, I want to end this.
Yes.
Here's my conditions.
I just want these places that I've already conquered.
And I want Ukrainians to fucking,
I want them one at a time to suck my dick.
He was in Russia, so we didn't get that party.
Well, you watch me doing standup,
and you have such pity for me
that it brings people together.
Everyone's like, let's come together and pity him.
You know what I mean?
That's a good thing.
That's a good thing.
Yeah, but he made that speech,
because he watched your special.
Yes.
That's the word on the street.
I'm very, you know, like with Putin,
I'm so, like, have you seen his wife,
picture of his wife?
She's like a ballerina, right?
She's hot as shit, obviously.
I mean, if she wasn't hot, that'd be crazy.
It would be crazy.
That would mean he chose out of anyone,
like an unattractive, but.
Which is what Macron did, which is wild.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
Well, I think Putin might have a little more power on who he chooses
You know no Macron. I mean you I mean Francis's. I mean, that's a g7 right? Yeah
Yeah, but I guess I'm saying Russia's more fascist. He can just probably like
Probably went to the ballet and was like
It's like Saddam Hussein life. It's like you know she might not have as much choice of the matter
He didn't have to he didn't have to win her over at a bar.
Maybe not.
I don't know.
Maybe it was a different time,
but she's hot enough for me not to worry
about nuclear war, which is good.
She's so hot.
I like this.
That you're like, well, he's not gonna blow up the world.
Right.
Because she's fucking hot.
Right.
She was ugly, I'd be scared.
Right.
She was ugly, I'd be really scared
because sometimes you really wanna get out of a bad marriage
Any way possible?
But the pretty ones are can be problematic. Yeah
War is all because his wife is breaking his chops. Yeah. Yeah, he's just trying to feel like a man or calling him a pussy Yeah, that's all you can take of Ukraine. You're fucking queer. I fuck one of the male ballerinas. Yeah, he's like
I thought they were all gay. He's like, nah dude, like Cat Williams said,
if you wanna pick up chicks, you hang out with chicks.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Well, but you know, it's a good point.
I guess I should be worried then.
What would you, she's hot.
Would you, would you rather be the guy
that she cheats on Putin with
or never make it in comedy at all?
Be the guy that she cheats on Putin with
so you're saying I get murdered?
Well, I mean, that's the implication.
Or you gotta live your life knowing
that she can just at any moment give you up.
Right, so either get most likely murdered. Who's a big, big mouth in the comedy community? knowing that she can just at any moment give you up. Like, yeah.
So either get most likely murdered.
Who's a big, big mouth in the comedy community?
You bang the chick and that guy knows.
Would you rather that or never have your dreams come true?
Well, I feel like if I get murdered,
I probably won't have my dreams come true.
You beat, you fucking beat me at this game.
You beat me at this game.
The choices are murdered and have your dreams not come true. You beat me at this game. You beat me at this game. The choices are murdered and have your dreams not come true
or not get murdered and have your dreams not come true.
You fucking beat me at this game, checkmate, yeah.
It wasn't a good example, I came off of the fly.
I was gonna say I'm giving up comedy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm giving up comedy.
I'm not fucking Putin's mistress.
No, that would be bad.
If you fuck, you have a real problem
if you can't say no to Putin's mistress. That's that would be bad. If you fuck, you have a real problem if you can't say no. Yes.
To Putin's mistress.
That's a good story for sex addiction.
Yeah.
You don't go into the bathroom and go,
you're just gonna jerk off and go home.
You have that John Travolta moment?
Yes, jerk off and go home.
Jerk off and go home.
Did he say he's gonna jerk off there?
He did, but.
Is he gonna jerk off at Uma Thurman's house and then leave?
Yeah, that's funny, because he actually said,
you're gonna jerk off at home, and you're like, are you gonna jerk off right now?
I'm just gonna go into her bathroom and jack off.
Did any nerds who watched that movie, like,
were we supposed to be under the impression that he jerked off there?
Well, I think the idea is that...
He did come out and not do anything, so maybe he did pull his fucking check in.
I think so, because he's like, you're gonna jerk off, you go home,
and then it cuts to him leaving the bathroom later going,
alright, I'm going.
I never even thought of that.
I guess he jacked off there.
He might have jacked off.
In her bathroom.
And then she's laying there unconscious.
You think part of him was going like.
I should have just fucked her.
No, he's thinking while she's laying there like,
this is the way Marcellus Wallace will never find out.
What if he jerked off, didn't like fuck her,
but then Marcellus found the semen in the bathroom? He still got in trouble, you know? Like he jerked off, didn't like fuck her, but then Marcellus found the semen in the bathroom?
He still got in trouble, you know?
Like he jerked off, but they're still fucking around.
Semen, he's going, what's this doing here?
Yeah, I mean, it would be bad.
You couldn't really put it in the movie,
especially nowadays, but if he's a gangster
and he's a bad guy, you would think maybe he would get
a couple, like she's passed out and he, you know.
Yeah, well there's a lot of things.
Oh, sorry, show me.
I don't even know if you can make that joke anymore.
There's a lot of things in the movie
that you could never do, like have the director
call Samuel Jackson the N-word 48 times.
For those things that,
it's one of those things that might be hard to get off,
get off the ground going.
I wanna see the fucking televised version.
There's a dead glorious African American in my garage.
Imagine pictures that he's like, look,
so it's gonna be seen where a guy calls you the N-word
82 times, I wrote it, I'm gonna play it.
No one else can do this role but me.
How many times do I have to say
there's a dead glorious African American in my garage?
It's insane, he calls him the Edward like,
there are a lot of things where like, they're like,
oh, you know, this doesn't hold up.
You're like, yeah, it's fine.
Matt is like, wow, that was a different time.
And here's the funny thing with Django.
It's like, you need those words cause it's in character.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that one you don't.
No, you can't have plantation owners being like,
that African American over there.
That African American over there.
Oh, that my black friend over here.
What's funny in what's it called? The fucking prequel to the Sopranos. What was it called?
Oh, the one that was on Netflix. What was it called? It was called Tony Soprano's Sons Not That Good.
Yeah, that one. Yeah, David Chay should have stopped while he was ahead.
Yeah, I think it was called Unnecessary. I think it was called My Big Fat Greek Wedding Five.
I think it was called,
If Anything Doesn't Need an Origin Story, It's This.
Why are you treating The Grey Show ever
like a fucking comic book?
But like an epic, like ooh, the Uncle of,
it's like what are you doing?
But in it, they're more, they're less racist than the people in,
so it's basically saying their older generation
was less racist than them,
because they're just never say the N word, ever,
which is insane.
Like they're literally not once say the N word.
Right, it's funny, it's like it used to be better,
and then it got worse.
Apparently.
Depends on, you know.
I mean they don't say the N word in Sopranos either,
but they have 40 different.
Oh, they say it.
Do they?
I feel like they have 40 different
Italian words for black.
Yeah, they do.
They got, the Italians are, when it comes to racism,
they're very creative and funny.
It is, but it also kind of makes fun of them,
because they're just calling them
different food in the kitchen.
They're like, he looks like a fucking eggplant. It's like kind of just making fun of Italians
Like they can't think beyond the kitchen
Yes it is
Yeah you can't think of tomato or
He looks like a fucillini pasta
He looks like a
He looks like a
Plaggiana
I also don't really get eggplant. Isn't that a purple eggplant?
It's like very dark. I get that
But it's a little it's not close enough
No, no, you know, it has some humor to it when you think about like, yeah, it's funny
They have so many words for black people and another one is Mondays. Yeah
Mojan. Yeah, well that's a plan is eggplant, right?
30 somethings. Yeah
They got names but it's across the board. They got names for Chinese, they got, they got.
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty fun.
The Italians come up, they take your worst quality
and then they make it, like if you grew up
in an Italian neighborhood, they would call it
something with a lisp, they would call you,
they would call you order.
Your name would be order, yeah, they call you Cicero.
Here comes Cicero.
Cicero.
Yeah, here comes Cicero.
Make you struggle.
They'd call.
Are they the most racist Italians you think?
Well, I would give Redneck.
I would give Europeans number one.
Right, right, right.
They always talk about us.
It's like, you don't see anyone at basketball games.
Like, you go to European basketball games,
you'll see a section of guys just like.
Yeah, yeah, hell hater. And then they go, it's just the far right party. You're like, what?
They have seats in parliament?
But who's the most racist ethnic group?
Ethnic group, that's a good question.
They all seem kind of racist, like Jews seem really racist, Italians seem really racist,
Irish people.
Jews are not, Israelis maybe.
Israelis are a little-
There's a difference between American Jews and Israelis. But there's different, Jews can be a little racist, the religious, the Hasid's can not racist. Irish people. Jews are not. Israelis. Israelis are a little. There's a difference between American Jews and Israelis.
But there's different, Jews can be a little racist.
Or the religious, the Hasids can be racist.
They don't, yeah, but they're.
But you don't, they're just my own.
They're dismissive, yeah.
I don't even call them racist.
I don't even think they look at you as like.
A human being?
Yeah, it's like.
I wouldn't call it racist.
They just don't even acknowledge.
It's like you're a couch and they just,
they gotta get around you.
They don't even see you as human enough to be inferior.
Yeah, yeah, they just, it's like a couch or a piece of furniture
or something in the way.
Hassids are bad luck for Jews.
Everyone's got that.
Everyone's got some extreme things.
I would maybe say Italians.
I would say maybe Italians.
I would say maybe Italians.
They're definitely the most movies
where Italians are being racist.
Yes, yeah.
They definitely milk that system. They're definitely the most movies where Italians are being racist. Yes, yeah.
They definitely milk that stereotype.
Right.
But you look at The Departed, they're all pretty...
That's the Boston...
Yeah, I feel like that's pretty racist.
Yeah, so after the Italian, the tough, like the white, tough Italian movies,
then it became that ushered in the Irish-Boston guys.
Irish-rate, yeah. that's the second most racist.
Yeah, those guys were like,
now we're gonna do these Carhartt guys, these guys.
Right, right, right.
And those guys do exist.
Yeah, yeah.
They do, I saw them, it's weird.
Like, they're not really here, they're not really in any,
it's a very specific thing, and they're tough, dude.
I did a, like a, I did in Boston,
I did a recovery benefit, like a big one,
in like Quincy or Southia, one of those fucking,
you know, fucking Ben Affleck, Matt Daly parts.
And it was like, everyone in there was good will hunting,
it was crazy.
And they kept the lights on,
they didn't want anyone picking anyone's pocket.
They were all there, recovering heron addicts.
They were all these fucking sunken Boston faces.
There's hard people that go through that cold winter.
And they're doing math and they're fucking pushing down.
They have to push down so many molestations from the church.
Yeah, it didn't happen, it didn't fucking happen.
I still gotta call them father because it's fucking,
it's my culture. It's my fucking culture, fuck. Fucking happen, it didn't fucking happen. I still gotta call him father because it's fucking, it's my culture.
It's my fucking culture.
Fuck!
Fucking guy fucking cornholed me when I was seven.
Meanwhile, the original Irish have completely
gotten rid of the church in Ireland.
They're still holding on in Boston.
Yeah, in Boston they said it's still fucking, you know.
It's the Pope, what can you do?
It's the fucking Pope.
They should have kept their mouth shut.
Yeah, he's not that bad of a fucking guy. He bought us our fucking intramural basketball uniforms.
So what if he fucked a couple kids?
In between, ramming my asshole in from four to 12.
Now every time I hear tires screech, I get nervous.
That's how he would pull up to my house.
You know what really got ruined
after the pedophilia's exorcism business.
What do you mean?
Well, like, they used to do exorcism,
but now you can't like, if you call up
or like help my kids possess, you know,
they can't be like, all right, time me up into bed,
I've gotta be alone with them for four hours, it's over.
It's done, that whole business.
This is a dark joke, but that was a really good time
for pedophiles.
Yeah.
You know, when they were going like,
they were going like, I have a thing,
I'm possessed by a demon. Get out of the room, close the door, lock it, were going like, I don't have a thing, I'm possessed by a demon.
Get out of the room, close the door, lock it.
If you hear screaming, don't come in.
I'll be there for 12 hours.
And then the pedophile's laying down
when they're doing the exorcism.
He's just going like this.
He's looking at his other pedophile buddy like,
It was a good time.
No, he's just going like, yeah, this will work.
Yeah, she's possessed.
I'll need about 12 hours.
Oh, oh, oh, I don't like kids anymore.
Oh, it worked. I'm cured, Thanks. Now where do the kids hang out?
I want to go test myself. They were. That's the thing. Like the priests, they fuck the kids, but they also have to get the demon out of the kid.
Right. They have, they're doing both. Right. Sometimes you have to fuck the demon out of the kid. You have to fuck the kid to get the demon out.
Yeah. You kill two birds with one stone. Yeah. it's sort of like deal it's very borderline personality
yeah you create the problem and then solve the problem exactly exactly they
got away with it they've gotten away with a lot of stuff yeah can any other
organization like if all the head corporate people at McDonald's were
fucking kids McDonald's might not be around. They'd take a hit, yeah.
You wouldn't be like, hey man,
why are you at the West Fourth McDonald's?
Why are you now at the 14th Street McDonald's?
There were fucking kids on the McDonald's playground.
They probably wouldn't have just sent them.
There's a little heat on the West Fourth,
the West Fourth franchise got a little heat on it.
The local manager told me just move up to 14th
and feel things cool down a little bit. If any, I mean, yeah, they weathered it. The local manager told me just move up to 14th and feel things cool down
a little bit.
If any, I mean, yeah, they weathered it. That's a pretty big storm to weather and they did
it.
They did it.
It's pretty impressive.
It is.
How many groups can survive worldwide pedophilia charges?
I mean, dude, it'll be looked back upon as maybe the biggest PR achievement
of all time.
Yeah, really.
I mean, Sackler family was done after one protest,
but this fuckin', yeah, it's pretty impressive.
You think part of it is the number is so big?
I was reading this article in the investigative journalists
in France from the 1970s to like now,
they estimated the number was like 300,000.
Kids were molested.
Kids were molested.
You think it's one of those things
that like when someone says Stalin killed,
it gets too much for your mind,
like sometimes hearing he killed three peoples
because you could personalize it.
I guess the point is if you're gonna fuck kids,
just go hard. Yeah. I mean if you're gonna do it. If they would point is if you're gonna fuck kids, just go hard.
Yeah, I mean if you're gonna do it.
If they would've fucked one kid,
they would've been done.
Do it beyond what humans can grasp.
Yeah like Stalin's kid, like 20 million.
It's so big you're like, oh okay.
You're like, yeah, you're like, wasn't.
It's so big that life suddenly doesn't matter
as you think about it.
You're like, oh well if that's possible,
then life's cheap, so I guess good.
Yeah, it's like trying to understand the universe. You're like, my brain doesn't even go there. So did he even do it, if it's possible then life's cheap. So I guess good. Yeah, it's like trying to understand the universe
Yeah, I can't my brain doesn't even go there. So did he even do it if it's that big it is so yeah
It is so big. I mean, but they also weathered a lot. They helped the Nazis, you know
They they've weathered a lot. They had a lot of practice weathering storms, you know over the years
There was a lot of Americans that helped the Nazis too. Yeah. Yeah a lot of a lot of people help
Henry Ford wrote a like
Yeah, yeah, a lot of a lot of people help in a Henry Ford wrote a like
Couple years ago, yeah, he wrote like a whole mine column. He has Henry Ford. I know has a mine comp It's I think it's called the international Jew. Yeah, it is. Yeah
International Jew. Yeah. Yeah, or that was that term they use that all the at Jewery
Jewry international Jewery. I like like how they made it an adjective.
Well, race is also, it's always a problem.
It's always the Jewish problem,
which is a really funny way to be like a group
and just that group being a problem.
It's just that group.
What are we gonna deal with the Jewish problem?
And they're like, what is the problem?
That they're Jewish.
It's sort of like when the number is so big,
it's like you can focus in on a small group and see like some things that a few do right right right right
But like the whole world's filled with atrocities and people just can't grasp that they're going like let's just fucking do go
It's like a husband who is an alcoholic who had a bad day at work, right?
His wife's just there standing in front of him
Yeah, like he really wants to hit his boss and everybody at work, but he's like
My wife's right here. So I'm just going to take out it on my wife.
The Jews are the housewife of alcohol.
That's a good example.
That's a good example for Jews.
We are the housewife of.
You're just there.
They're like, there's a few I can I can I can get my mind around this small group.
I mean, it's weird.
Well, we are.
We're a small group.
We're so small.
We're like transgender people.
We're so small. We're like transgender people.
We're so small, but the front of conversations.
Well, it's because of the over-representation
and high-level stuff due to achievement.
Yeah, it's not good.
So that's what it is.
It's not good.
So what you gotta tell your people is,
guys, dumb it down a little bit.
Dumb it down.
It is scary just like,
and I guess this is where
anti-Semitic, just when you think about how we are
the topic of conversation and we are such like below
1% of the world, that's like, that's scary that we're just
even, we shouldn't be talked about at all.
Like we should be talked about the way they talk about
like fucking like, I don't know, Yugoslavians or something.
It's like such a small group.
It should be talked about differently
because it should be talked about like,
okay, what are they doing that makes them succeed so much?
And then you go.
Yeah, well they never.
Yeah, they never go that way.
Well, you know what we do?
They never go like, wait, can we do some of those things?
People do this, you know when someone gets big
and you're like, ah, his father was in this and that.
It's like that, everyone's just like,
ah, it was nepotism, they're all rigged.
They all take care of each other.
Until you hang out with Jewish women at a Marjock table
and you're like, they don't like each other.
Well, I was always thinking a good show
would be a reality TV show where anti-Semites
follow me on the road and they lose their anti-Semitism
by seeing how much I'm struggling.
They're like, oh man, I thought Jews really had a rig,
but then I saw Ronan perform for 12 people
in a papered room in Austin.
Maybe they don't control everything.
That reminds me of one of my favorite jokes
that I've ever said that is so inside
and only works for people who know who Louis Katz is.
Oh yeah.
And it wasn't even at a roast.
I just said, Louis, your career is proof
that the Jews don't run Hollywood.
I love the line.
No, it's true though.
So I was like, yeah, the Jews run,
Louis Katz's career is proof, so we can clip it,
Louis Katz's career is proof
that the Jews don't run Hollywood. And if they do. But they do not that much. Or they're fucking us over. They're not letting, or we're clip it. Louis Katz's career is proof that the Jews don't run Hollywood.
And if they do.
But they do not that much.
Or they're fucking us over, they're not letting,
or we're that bad.
Yeah, yeah.
We're that bad at comedy, the Jews are like,
no, we can't, if we help them, it'll be too obvious.
Yeah.
If we help Louis Katz and Ron on, people will be like,
well, if they're doing well, then clearly it's rigged.
Here's another funny one, too, that I always think breaks the illusion of fear, is nobody
ever talks about the over-representation of Jews in hospitals and doctors.
Nobody seems to care about that.
We don't want to fuck with that.
Yeah.
How come nobody's going like, what the fuck?
Because they want those Jewish doctors.
Yeah, I said, what the fuck, dude?
What are they doing?
What kind of secret thing are they doing
that there's so many people who are curing me?
Right, right, right.
Well, you, yeah.
It always goes to the financial or political.
Well, the Hollywood thing was because Jews
weren't allowed to work in film in New York,
so they moved to Hollywood and built their own thing.
So it's like.
Here, look, I grew up in Brooklyn, right?
So most of my girlfriends were Jewish. I grew, look, I grew up in Brooklyn, right? So most of my girlfriends were Jewish.
I grew up around, I grew up in Park Slope,
which was like one of the most diverse neighborhoods.
I got a half a Jew sitting there.
Yeah.
You know?
There's just Jews everywhere,
and what I can contribute to the conversation
is they're just people who, they're just people.
Yeah, yeah.
No, some people need to hear,
no, some people need to hear that.
I know.
Well, I did think.
Some people go, wait, what?
I didn't.
Yeah, no, like, you don't really notice.
The only time you notice is around Christmas,
and here's the deal.
The only good point people have about Jews
is Christmas is a better holiday.
But Hanukkah?
Objectively.
Because every Jewish friend I have,
just, you just can feel the envy.
And a Christmas tree eventually goes up, and it's a seasonal tree.
It becomes a winter tree.
Hanukkah is a bit of a scam, because it's like eight days of gifts.
But they do that. This is where Jews kind of fulfill the stereotype.
They're like, on the first couple days it's shitty, but then they're like,
wait till the next couple days, and then it never gets good.
So it's kind of like a scam that way.
They're like, oh yeah, you got socks today, but you got four more days left. and then it never gets good. So it's kind of like a scam that way.
They're like, oh yeah, you got socks today,
but we got four more days left.
Here's how they also didn't fulfill the stereotypes
because they ended up celebrating both
and I always thought that's not fair.
You can't have both.
Because then their family would just give in,
like a lot of my Jewish friends would be like,
and they'd get Christmas gifts and fucking Hanukkah gifts
and I'd be like, that's like double,
that's like eight, that's like, I'm not a mathematician.
But that's like nine times the gifts.
So I'd get like one Legos and be like,
Hanukkah's still going and also,
my parents gave me a Christmas gift.
Well I don't support that behavior at all
and I didn't do that as a kid.
We didn't have.
You stuck to Hanukkah.
Yeah, I mean I guess I was a little more religious
and I was like conservative,
somewhere in between Orthodox and the Reform Jews.
So you're one of those, like, you don't tell your parents
to watch you.
What do you mean?
You tell your parents to watch your set?
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, they're not that religious.
Are you allowed to touch microphones on Sunday?
Because this is why we put it in the Think Frame.
He told us that before, he's like,
I can't handle electronics on a certain day.
A notch below that.
Well, we lived in Louisville,
we didn't use money on Saturday,
so I never went to the Kentucky Derby
That's a thing. Oh, so you didn't so you did not use electricity
We use electricity, but we didn't use money. Yeah. Oh, so you want those Amish Jews?
Well, we actually had it in a way so we would we're conservative it's like in between like reformed is like the nothing
You know lesbian rabbi group around grew up around mostly reformed.
Yeah, yeah, they're the ones who are fucking putting,
they're like, we're not Jews anyway,
they put Christmas in there.
And then there's Orthodox, which is, you know,
the guys running around,
not looking at you sweaty on the street.
And we're in the middle,
so like the guys who look like they have somewhere to be,
possibly a Jewish conspiracy.
No, I don't scale.
It doesn't help us that Hasid's always running
like they're late to a meeting.
But we were in the middle, so.
We were in the middle, so we kept kosher in the house
and then we didn't eat, we only ate dairy outside the house
at a restaurant, we didn't eat meat.
Which is actually kinda harder than more,
like religious Jews in New York wouldn't eat,
they'd only eat at a kosher restaurant.
But there were no kosher restaurants in Louisville,
Kentucky, so I actually never ate meat at a restaurant ever.
Right, still to this day?
Oh no, I'm not an idiot, I don't believe it anymore.
Yeah.
Here's my question, you know Catholics,
so Catholics, masturbating is a sin.
So when they do it, they proverbially proverbially have to like fucking whip themselves,
but it makes it really good.
Like the Catholic girls I hooked up with,
like I'm Greek Orthodox, so we don't have any of that shit.
So our priest can marry, you can come, all that stuff.
So all the Catholic girls I hooked up with,
my wife doesn't watch this anymore, thank God.
But it was fucking great.
I always tell people like,
the repression of religion is almost worth
how hot it makes the sounds.
Yeah, that's true.
Religion is kind of like edging.
Yeah, it's like edging, yeah.
Religion is like the ultimate edging.
It's like fucking edgy.
So all the Irish girls,
I just had this thing for Irish girls
because they were just fucking Catholic
and they were repressed and it was just hot.
My question for the conservative Jews is,
Jewish girls are all whores.
No, no, I'm going even further.
Not further, but in a different direction.
Was using electricity erotic because you couldn't?
So when you hit the light switch,
you're like, oh yeah, fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah.
I'm doing something fucking naughty. Well that, like using a vibrator on a girl. Yeah on Saturday
You're holding it you're holding it with it on you
You're holding it with it on at 1159 on Saturday as soon as it hits 12
I was holding it with it on at 11.59 on Saturday. As soon as it hits 12, it's like,
it's okay now.
Yeah, that's what made it hot.
No, I didn't eat uncultured meat till college.
And this is true.
I was in college, I had chicken in the cafeteria,
like uncultured chicken,
and I woke up the next day with a cold sore.
And then I like ate it again,
and woke up with another cold sore,
and then did another day, and then finally.
I don't know, I think it was like guilt.
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Jewish, the Jewish coaches, a lot of guilt in there
Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of the mothers really that's where it starts with the mothers. Yeah, and the mothers
It's very similar in Greek culture. The mother really controls your life through guilt and it's great. Yeah. Yeah
I hate it sociopathic. I feel it is and I feel like
It's so it's made to be so folksy and culture. Like, ah, the overbearing mother.
It's like, ah, but in reality, I'm like,
no, I still feel like a child now at 40.
This is not funny.
This is like, upsetting.
Like, she still tells me what to do,
and it makes me feel like I'm not ever an adult.
And then I like, yeah, so it's not fun.
Yeah, no, I've noticed that strong matriarchal,
the mother is always like in the Jewish family,
is like, dude, we've talked about this in the podcast
before, but like, you know, my parents were lawyers
and they had a lot of Jewish friends
and like my mother's best friend from law school
was Jewish and her husband was like one of the biggest
defense attorneys in the city at the time and
The way she would talk to him
Dude, it was at parties and this guy's like hanging out with drug dealers and getting like and
When and then he's tough as nails in his profession and then watching his wife just put that down Stanley
You need too much shrimp. Just fucking he just kind of of okay can we put the fucking air conditioner on here this is not I mean
which just a little bus I mean look at we're dying over here dude I don't
cares it's a podcast we're not even in for are we gonna be in 4k at least this
week no oh we didn't make the switch. No, yeah, but.
But I don't think, oh no, it can't show up on 4K.
You guys really wanna be seen in 4K?
Yeah, I don't know.
Not sweating like this.
My mom once, I talked about this in therapy,
it's just like an example of how like
nothing I can do is ever right.
One Passover, I was like, I guess drinking a lot, wine,
and she just kept on commenting like,
you know, you're drinking way too much wine, way too much.
You know, you should really slow down on the wine.
And the next year I happened to quit drinking,
and so I was in Passover, and I swear to God,
she was like, you really need to slow down
on the grape juice.
You're drinking way too much grape juice.
There's a lot of sugar in it.
I'm like, I can't win!
You're like, oh, this wasn't about the wine.
Just no matter what you do, they will find a fault.
You asserting dominance over your child.
Yeah, no, it's awful.
And then she's like, oh, I'm a Jewish mother.
I'm just overbearing.
I'm like, no, it's fucking psychotic.
It's psychotic.
Well, to play devil's advocate, how much fucking
grape juice were you downing?
That's probably a lot.
And there was a lot of sugar.
Well, that's what makes it even worse
is that she's kind of right.
But that's the thing, my therapist has brought this up.
Even if she's right, she's wrong in the sense
that she's thinking she can tell me how to live my life.
That took me a long time to realize, like,
yeah, there's a lot of sugar in grape juice,
but I'm an adult and I should be able to fucking pound.
Right.
You know what I mean?
It's my business what I do.
It's my business, yeah.
You no longer, I'm not in your house
and you can't tell me what to do with the fucking grape juice.
My therapist is very anti-mug.
Just be happy it's not fucking Oxys, I'm a comedian.
Have you heard of the way Mitch Hedberg died?
It could go that way, let me have a fucking grape juice.
My therapist is very anti-parents,
he's always like, when I tell him stuff,
he's like, yeah, next time she says that,
just tell her to shut the fuck up or mind your own goddamn.
Sounds like we may have had the same therapist.
Alad?
Yeah.
He's tougher.
He's like, assert yourself.
Just slap her and then leave the room.
What's the big deal?
I love him.
Take out a switchblade and say,
if you tell me how to do my business again,
I'll slit your fucking throat, you whore.
I think therapy's really needed more for the mom issues than the dad issues.
Yeah, well, Italian, Greek, Jewish, the mother's the patriarch.
But you know, I mean, the mother's the head.
But you know, in Ireland, it's I think the opposite.
In Irish, the dad's.
It's the priest.
It's the father.
And the father.
Yeah, you go and you go, which father?
And then you go.
Which awful father?
The one in the house of God
They go, all right, which father the one here for a couple years which father the one who hit you or the one who fucks
Right the one who is never nice to you or the one who was kind of kind but only to fuck those two options
First let's deal with the hits and then we'll deal with the other father my two fathers
But the Irish I think they let's deal with the hits and then we'll deal with the other father. My two fathers.
But the Irish, I think they have to deal with the father.
And then the mother's a little more quiet.
I think so.
You don't see the mother telling an Irish guy,
you know, quiet, calm the fuck down.
You're like, fucking everything's fine,
Jesus, Jesus, Mary, Joseph, Jim.
The mother's just like doing rogeries
while her kid's getting beat, she's just fucking ignoring.
It's all okay, everything's okay, push it down.
Once we die, this will be over.
Yeah, the Catholics, the Irish Catholics,
don't pay attention to the problem,
and then the Jews and the Greeks or Italians
pay too much attention to the problem.
Yes, that's a good point, we think about it too much.
I do think, in the end of the day, it's probably healthier.
I think Irish is a little, the most fucked up.
Oh yeah.
Right?
Or the most impervious to growth.
I'm speaking generalizations,
but they deal with repression.
And the thing about repression is,
that's gonna be harder than,
we get it all out too much.
I feel like repression's harder.
I think you should get it out.
Yeah, you should get it out. But I think should get it out. You should get it out.
But I think they get it out another way by hitting their
hitting their kids.
Yeah, so that's therapeutic.
In a way it's very, I mean it could work better.
I call my
It's cheaper for sure.
Therapy's expensive.
I guess a lot of things are, oh shit.
How many times is my fucking phone gonna fall?
Like one thing I have anxiety, one thing I do to like,
you know, get it out is I'll have horrible panic attacks
and then I'm very calm.
After a while.
The panic attacks almost like the repression religion
sometimes are worth it for how calm you feel afterwards.
It is good, it is good.
It's after your body goes fine, realizes everything's fine.
It's kind of heavy.
Yeah.
Because a panic attack is anxiety just slowly building
for like a year. And you just go, it's like getting a negative age result yeah they're
all tense they leave like I mean I've cut my arm the whole time but not to
say Jesus Christ you're not cutting are you cuz I can't I can relate to the
anxiety I don't know if I can relate to the cutting.
No, I'm joking.
But the cutting, I don't, is that?
I like how it suddenly got serious.
Yeah.
We've been riffing the whole time.
You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Well, I mean, that is a little bit of a curve ball.
You're like, yeah, I was having this panic attack
and then I held the knife to my arm.
Anyway, fucking Jewish mothers, right?
It's like, wait a second, back up.
Are you okay? I did go to the ER once for a panic attack
Fucking rookie. I know it was actually twice. That's my cheers. It was actually twice. I'm trying to look cool
There's been months I've got twice
It's tough though with ER cuz like you have to wait a while and then you're just kind of thinking like well by the
Time I get seen this panic attack will be fucking over.
Have you noticed that once you get into the hospital it starts to go away?
Yeah, I know.
You're like, all right, this is ridiculous.
And then you almost have to fake that it's still happening in order to like be like, yeah, I'm still having a panic attack.
They look at your blood pressure, they're like, it's fine.
It's like you're calling your own bluff. You go to the ER, you're like, I'm dying, I'm dying.
And then you go, cause deep down, down you know it's a panic attack.
So you go in there and then you're like, all right.
Like you see one guy shot and you're like,
all right, maybe I shouldn't be here.
But then you can't leave, that looks weird.
No, it's a serious thing.
It's physical, what happens to you.
I know all about the-
You get a lot of panic, huh?
Yeah, me too.
Dude, I've been dealing with it for years.
I've been, these past couple years, I've been on such a journey to understand all that.
The more I understand, the more I learn about it, the more they know so much more about it.
The brain works and the amygdala and the fight or flight response and your subconscious.
It usually just
goes back to when you were a kid you didn't feel safe someone nobody
contained your fear there was nobody there while your brain was developing
and that's why I feel so out of your control because it's your subconscious
it's right your brain is basically only evolved for the most part to be a
survival app right right so it's like your subconscious is getting triggers
that you're not aware of that remind you of a time
where you were felt unsafe and nobody contained it.
People who have good parents will go, what's wrong?
And then explain it to you and then as your brain's
developing you go, oh that's fine.
But then when you get older and you realize you were
neglected in those ways, that's not solved.
That's so true.
I had really awful panic attacks when I was younger.
Well, A, I didn't even know what they were,
but my parents, no one ever,
I didn't know they were panic attacks.
That's what made it, if I would've gotten help then,
but instead of getting help,
I just thought I had this horrible condition
I kept to myself.
Also, it's hard to get help when you're little
because you don't know.
I didn't know what it was.
And also, you can't have a therapist tell you
when you're young, this is the complicated part, like, hey, your mother might be the problem. And then you're like, I don't know. You can't cover your kids. And also you can't have a therapist tell you when you're young, this is the complicated part,
like hey, your mother might be the problem.
And then you're like,
I gotta live with this bitch for 25 more years.
That does better once you've left.
Exactly.
That's why.
That's why the defense mechanisms kick in
and you just go with those defense mechanisms.
Some people's personalities
become those defense mechanisms.
That's a good point though.
Therapy now is all like,
we don't live with our parents, so we're allowed to like,
have the resentment or the war, but like,
if you're a kid doing therapy, that must really fuck with you
if the therapist is like, yeah, your mother's really
fucking up your life.
Now go home and be with her forever.
Yeah, that's a tough one, yeah.
Which would feel like, you know how slow time moves
when you're little?
Yeah, I'll bet.
Like, I gotta live with this bitch til I'm 18?
Yeah, that's, yeah.
You gotta wait till you leave the house.
And here's the thing. You gotta wait till you leave the house
till you learn the truth.
Some people shouldn't have kids.
Some people just were not.
Parenting, now that I'm a father,
parenting is a job that you can do well or do bad.
You can do it bad.
And it gives you, you have these moral consequences
you didn't have when you didn't have kids.
Like if you don't have kids,
you can just be an asshole and it's fine.
But with a kid, that asshole is now like,
that shit can ramp up to evil real quick.
So it's like, there's so many moral consequences
that you don't have before you have a kid.
I mean, it is funny to think about,
I feel like we're probably similar age.
Our parents' generation, I feel like you're probably similar age. Sure. But our- Why not? Our parents generation, I feel like-
That's one of the great parts about looking
a lot younger than I am.
Sure, sounds about right.
What are you, 30-something?
Sounds good.
No, I'm old.
What are you?
I'm 40.
That's old?
How old are you?
Are you-
I'm 40!
I just turned 40.
I'm older than 40.
All right, well you look great.
When did you start comedy?
15, 16 years ago.
Let's turn this into fucking morning radio right now.
Yeah.
When did you know you were funny?
That's about right.
So 14 years, 17 years.
Because you're really funny.
And you're really funny.
And you got that like fucking smart like oh
Not only is this funny and is a funny vehicle because you're comedically built
So it comes out funny, but the jokes are also like ah that's a good joke. Ah, that's a good joke
Oh, this is like thanks man. What good stuff. I love your stuff. I always always excited
We got to blow each other a little bit but it's interesting both of us I feel like you make a lot of... Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We gotta blow each other a little bit.
But it is interesting, like both of us, I feel like,
are fairly confident on stage,
or at least fairly energetic,
which is interesting because we have panic.
Yeah. So it's like, it is interesting.
You ever have one on stage yet?
Yeah, yeah. I had it.
Yeah, all the time.
No, I had, I got all...
You ever get a carted out or a stretcher at one?
Did you?
Oh yeah, I got your beat, though. stretcher at one did you oh, yeah
Really? Wait wait. Oh, yeah, what happened? Oh, yeah fucking Providence, Rhode Island. What happened the comedy connection you you like I went up
And I was like I'm gonna faint I'm going down. This is it and then it just didn't go away and but you didn't faint
I didn't faint but I get carried out of the I get carried out of the comedy club at a stretcher
Like you called the ambulance afterwards. They call they were election. We call the ambulance. Are you diabetic? I'm like, I don't know at this point
Oh, you said it on there. Yeah, I was on stage. I got up there. I was up there for ten seconds and I went
Okay, I'd somebody I'm just feeling a little light has anyone have a chicken finger
And I was like maybe I need some water and then I was like, I'm gonna bring the host
We didn't know it was a panic attack. I knew, but you know, when you're in that part
of your brain, you're just, you know.
And I wasn't in therapy at this point,
so I had no tools.
So I was just like, yeah, then you get carried out
in the stretcher.
And let me tell you something.
New England is the worst place for that to happen to you.
Because when they're checking, they're all assholes,
they're all massholes.
You get called queer.
Yeah, they're just like, they check your fucking,
they check your heart rate,
they check your blood temperature,
and they know nothing's wrong with you.
And so the whole ambulance ride
was them just fucking with me.
Look, there's fucking queer over here.
They were going so.
It was a pussy panic attack.
Was this your first night doing comedy?
Was the fucking crowd rough, kid?
People don't get that.
The panic attacks don't start at the beginning of comedy.
They start later, I think.
Like, I feel like, for me, that's crazy, by the way.
So how much time do you do on stage?
15 seconds.
They canceled the whole weekend.
Oh my God.
Looking back, it was like, my dad was dying of cancer.
Oh yeah, I'm sorry to hear that.
My dad, my mother was Alzheimer's,
we just put her in a fucking home and that was a whole thing
She's a borderline personality disorder. Oh my god. So that was a whole fucking thing
What else had just happened Angelo just died?
Dave just got murdered
Another friend I can't say on the pocket. I mean it was just a time
I like and you're just dealing with it, and then you continue to live,
and then your body just goes,
hey dude, we're not gonna let you pretend
things are okay right now.
And you're going, I gotta make other people happy.
And I'm like, you're broken.
And in hindsight, you're like,
oh, of course that's what's gonna happen.
Of course that's what happened, yeah.
Yeah, that's really, I mean, that's awful.
I actually, I think I started getting anxiety
around the time my dad, he's still alive,
but he had cancer when I was younger, or he still does, and I got a lot of, I zyde around the time my dad he still lied But he had cancer when I was younger or he still does and I got a lot of I think was around that time
But um I that's that's crazy that you really do very few people tend to
Be jealous with me and jealous Joe's Liz. I'm like your anxiety is fucking
Intramurals compared to mine. I mean that's just say that sentence is crazy
Yeah, cuz Joe has a lot, but I mean mine has been crazy. And I also, I got shot, I have PTSD.
Oh.
And now I know that, you know, my mother lived under occupied Nazi Germany.
Something bad happened to her, my therapist.
Oh, shit.
You know, my mother was born on the island of Crete,
and that was like a major occupation for the Nazis.
Uh-huh.
So she was a little girl.
And then my father was a generational trauma.
My father actually had PTSD, like he spent time in a hospital. she was a little girl. And then my father was a, my father actually had PTSD,
like he spent time in a hospital.
He was a combat veteran.
So that shit just gets passed down.
They know that now too.
They know that now about intergenerational trauma.
It's totally true, they do studies on it.
It's fucking biological, it's chemical,
it just gets in you.
And also being raised by people with PTSD is like a,
well that's how it gets down.
It's just the myrrh neurons. So there's this thing called myrrh neurons that they know about now, which is this is one that. That's how it gets down. It's just the mirror neurons.
So there's this thing called mirror neurons
that they know about now, which is,
this is one of the most mind blowing things to me.
It's one of those instinctual animal things
that your caregiver, before you're conscious,
you're a helpless kid.
So there's some instinct that humans have,
the human animal, where your neurons
just match up unconsciously with the neurons of, they just match up.
Your brain is actually making the connections
that they're seeing.
It's some mystical, it's not mystical,
it's fucking instinct.
But it's like you're connected on some mental level.
You're forming, so your brain's just going,
this is my caregiver, and it's just making
the same connections. You're just becoming like your parents's just going, this is my caregiver, and it's just making the same connections, you're just becoming
like your parents.
It feels like such an alien.
Yeah, they're like, this is how you do something,
and then your brain just goes, this is all I know.
My caregiver told me, and then your brain,
and it's not even conscious, it's not said,
it's just they're called mirror neurons,
where the neurons actually mirror the neurons
in your caregiver.
Wow, so it is like, it's not just how you're raised.
It's like through the, wow.
Yeah, so when people say genetic, it's like that too,
but that is just as powerful as genes.
It's just the mirror neurons when you're little.
The first five years are the most, they know this now,
the first five years are the most important,
and then there's a pre-verbal trauma
a lot of people don't even know,
because it was before you could talk,
but you just didn't feel safe,
so your body just was in a panic,
like your mom left you in a crib or whatever it was.
Oh my God, when I think of my mom's anxiety.
And then the brain fully develops till 25.
Yeah, when I think of my mom's anxiety
and thinking I was fucking mirroring
that fucking crazy person.
You were.
You were.
There's no way you weren't.
I was just mirroring complete stress at all times. This is how I should view the world.
Just never, unable to ever be calm.
It's fucked.
Because we're like versions of our parents,
you know, it's like, yeah, we take their shit.
We just, we get their good shit, their bad shit,
we just get their shit.
How old is your kid now?
My kid is one and my other kid is gonna be four.
You see an anxiety in your kid,
like the four year old that you can relate to?
This is just been the best.
I've really dialed in on,
I have a trauma therapist now
who specializes in EMDR and stuff.
Oh great, my girlfriend's a therapist who specializes in that.
Oh she does?
Yeah, EMDR.
It's fucking incredible.
No, she's done it to me, it's very helpful.
It's crazy, dude.
So, and I've been just all in this,
and so I've just been bringing that to my kids.
Not in an overbearing way, just in awareness.
So like I'm constantly just like,
paying attention to them and asking them how they feel.
And when I see she gets a tantrum or whatever
I'm just patient with it. I explain things to her. I just let her know I told this to Jesse and I think it's like
It's not being a parent a good parent. I don't think is rocket science. I think the most important thing is you give the kid the message
Through your joy and happiness that you wanted them here and that they're more important than you
and you care about them and so you giving them that safety
to know like you're not a burden to me.
Even when you're throwing a panic attack,
I can handle this, I asked for you to be here,
I'm gonna put the time in for that
and you're important to me.
And that's all you gotta do for a kid
and they just, their nervous system is just,
I can see how happy my kids are
because their nervous system is just a lot calmer
than mine probably was,
dealing with two parents who couldn't cope.
My parents were like trying to,
they were both immigrants, right,
making it in America alone, so that's enough stress.
And then they're carrying all that trauma from war.
And then they're like,
there's a crying baby in the other room.
So they were like managing that inside and then being like, fucking that trauma from war, and then they're like, there's a crying baby in the other room. So they were like managing that inside
and then being like, fucking shut up, you know?
Right, right, yeah.
And then you feel like a burden or something.
Or you feel like your emotions are fucking things up.
Yeah, and here's another thing that they know too,
is that so when your parent is neglectful or abusive,
that you don't have the capacity as a kid to go,
my mother is abusive or neglectful or messed up
or whatever it is, you go, there's something wrong with me.
Yeah, you go, I'm an asshole.
You go, I'm an,
because that's the affection you're trying to get.
So if the message is you're not getting it,
even if you don't understand it,
you couldn't articulate it because you're not old enough,
you feel it, and so you just go, you just internalize it.
You go, there's something wrong with me,
it's gotta be somewhere.
And so people who don't have confidence or hate themselves,
their parents fucking did that to them.
I still do that.
I don't, I feel the need.
It's good for comedy.
Yeah, it's good, yeah.
But I feel the need to like, I don't have boundaries.
I feel the need to always please people.
And I feel like when I have my own needs, I feel selfish.
Yeah.
You know, which I think is something my mom may have.
I bet you your girlfriend appreciates that 100%
when you're eating that pussy.
And you're guilty, like you did too much for me.
Let me, if I was her as a therapist,
and she knew all that mind shit,
I'd be like, I'm gonna fucking milk this.
He's a people pleaser, guess what?
Pussy needs a lapping.
No one eats out better than a fat guy who comes early
With mommy issues who wants my leaves was to please a
Recreation and with that nobody eats pussy better than a self-hating
edible low self-esteem
Neglected kid. Yeah, I think that's who you want to get ladies. Yeah, that you wanna get ladies. Yeah, I was raised right in that way.
You were raised right for eating pussy.
I was raised right for eating pussy.
You got a great podcast with the great Joe Les.
Joe Les is one of my favorite people.
One of those guys.
He had a panic attack on Conan.
Yeah, he did, that's right, yeah.
Yeah, you can't really notice it.
No.
That's the thing, I never had,
I had panic attacks on stage, but I never,
I've never brought it up, so I guess I went through it.
For me, panic attacks on stage are like,
you know when you're really high,
if you're ever high on weed and you're freaking out,
but outside it just looks totally normal.
That's what weed does.
Weed, like other drugs, you think you're normal,
but you're like, ugh. But weed, all those guys on the street like this, they think they're just like totally normal. That's what weed does. Weed, like other drugs, you think you're normal, but you're like, ugh.
But weed, like all those guys on the street like this,
they think they're just like,
but like, they think they're just like, hi.
But weed makes you think you're losing your mind
and your head, but then on the outside,
you're like, hey, how's it going?
That's how it was with me.
I'd have these horrible panic attacks on stage
and no one could notice,
which actually made it kind of sadder.
Like I'd be.
You probably just sweated a little bit.
I always do that.
Yes, they could tell anyway, yeah.
So yeah, definitely couldn't be noticed.
And it would be awful, I wouldn't have fun.
It'd be awful.
And afterwards I come on stage and be like,
did you know, man, that was awful.
And they're like, no, it was fine.
And that made it sadder.
It's like, God, I'm so alone.
No one even notices my despair.
But it makes you more compassionate, I think, having anxiety, because it makes you realize,
you look at other people sometimes,
even though they seem normal right now,
they might be having a nightmare going on in their head.
So it makes you at least more aware
that people are having nightmares in their head
that aren't being reflected or expressed.
And just to piggyback off that,
I think it makes you more empathetic.
It's an indication that you're more empathetic
to begin with.
Because I think you're having the panic attacks
because you're someone who's sensitive and feels.
So I think that's just, that's par for the course
at the beginning of the panic attacks
because you're just feeling a lot of shit.
Yeah, and it's so-
The sociopats just have no panic attacks. They don't have it, yeah. Let's think about Sopranos. I don't know if he'd be having panic attacks, because you're just feeling a lot of shit. Yeah, and it's so. Psychopaths just have no panic attacks.
They don't have it, yeah.
Let's think about Sopranos.
I don't know if he'd be having panic attacks.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, he's probably more of a sociopath.
They have feelings.
It's a complicated way, you know, whatever.
They'll probably change it in five years.
But yeah, it's an interesting thing to think.
Are we really free, or are psychopaths the freest ones?
I don't think any of us are free.
Psychopaths are pretty free.
No, but like.
They don't feel anything.
But they don't have the freedom to feel.
That's like a shame.
That's pretty free.
I mean, have you ever had feelings
for a chick you broke up with and you're like,
I wish I could be free of this?
Psychopaths are going like.
Right.
They go, woe is you, buddy.
Right, it does. I have thought like,
you posted the Iceman the other day.
Yeah.
And I love the Iceman.
I got obsessed with him.
Yeah.
And I used to do Adderall and I ended up writing like a.
By the way, he's not talking about Gervin.
You're not talking about the guy with finger rolls.
Oh.
Yeah, there's another Iceman.
If you're a basketball aficionado,
there's another Iceman. I'm not.
I'm talking about the Hitman.
You're talking about the one that kills people, yeah. I mean, he're a basketball aficionado. I'm not I'm talking about the hit man
He has a lot of scores but
he uh well, what I can say
Oh like it does make you think like if anyone like like you can be really calm as a psychopath because it like for us
If someone like is rude to us, we can't murder them. So we just bitch about it
We're just fucking guy cut me off. It's fucking bullshit. But for psychopathic and just be like, well, it's fine
I'll just kill him. Yeah, no, they just go to his house and strangle him. It's okay
They don't care if you like them. They don't care. It's like very calm. Yeah, they don't they don't feel it's nice to kill
People who upset you. Yeah, cuz when you can't you just complain. Yeah
Really annoying like I wish you just killed the guy. Yeah, and meanwhile, other guys, psychopaths are like, no, everything's fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Psychopaths fascinated, I had a while
where I was obsessed with the, oh, he's great, Kuglinski.
I wrote a, tried to write a book about him.
I just got like obsessed with him.
I read like all his stuff and I don't know, I just.
What was the source of the,
what was the inspiration for the obsession?
He's so poetic. He has such good lines like the way he talks
I never picked up on that when he's like I'm trying to remember like so the rats were eating her face
That line poetic when you come to think of it is very thorough s
No, he had like he just had a I don't know
He had a way of saying lines that were like,
very cinematic to me.
And he was just an interesting guy.
His life was interesting.
But I do remember in the book or one of the documentaries,
he talks about how he got a weapon.
It's fucked up, but also very funny.
He got a weapon like a crossbow,
and he wanted to test it out before he did a hit.
So he just drove up to a homeless guy
and just shot it through his neck.
And I'm like, oh, so him testing out was killing someone.
For you to see testing out would be like.
It works.
It works.
But you just did the deal.
Yeah, like, oh, I guess I forgot about that part.
Yeah, it works.
Well, anyway, it works.
Now, he lied about a lot of stuff, unfortunately.
Yeah, I heard that.
He lied, but that's what psychopaths do.
They fucking lie and lie and lie.
Well, that was, do you watch the Jinx or Robert Deust?
I did.
We did a whole episode.
I am obsessed with him.
Someone was, I'm almost done with the second season.
Did you watch the follow-up, the new one that came out?
I'm almost done with that, yeah.
So, people don't know how great it is because they think it's not as good as the first one,
but it's great for different reasons. It's actually better. It's actually kind of crazy.
It's like the first one was so phenomenal. And then you watch the second one, you're like,
oh, this second one needed to happen. Yeah. Like it actually feels like it actually like,
but there was one part where they're like that got that hilarious lawyer who seems like a coach of
a high school football team. The guy who's the prosecution guy. He's like, we guys he's like we're gonna you know but he talked about him being a
pathological liar and I'm like well is he a pathological liar I think he's a
murderer who that has to lie the consequence of his yeah I think it's
more the murdering it's just I think it's more that it's very hard to be an
honest murder so I don't know if that's pathological.
I feel like pathological lying is me just being like,
I was in India last week and I wasn't.
I feel like him being like, yeah,
I showed up to Susan Berman's house, she was already dead.
That's not like lying for no reason.
Are you at towards the end?
I got one more episode, it's great.
Yeah, the last one is, is there's a comical moment
I won't ruin it for you the whole thing the second season fucking hilarious
It's there's a lot of funny in there his voice. He starts sounding like Jiminy Glick. It just gets so high. Yeah
Hide my money I
His whole his whole way of getting out of it. I find so funny when he's like look
I wouldn't believe it myself
Yeah, if I was me I would think I'm the killer
Yeah, I was there the fingerprints I cut the one of the bodies up on the body. I just didn't do
Yeah, I believe it too, but I did it
I believe it too, but I didn't. But I didn't do it.
It's amazing he got away with it, Sue,
for a long time just by saying I didn't do it.
It's incredible what you could do with money and power.
Yeah, he's such a hilarious character
because it's also funny that he's like his one man mafia.
Yeah.
He works like the mob, but it's just one guy.
He's like, we've got to silence her, but it's just one guy. He's like, we gotta silence her, but it's just him?
Yeah, yeah.
It's just him alone.
It's just him walking, going to California,
going to her house.
But it's like, it's like total mob,
like, all right, we killed her.
Yeah, to silence her, but I did it alone.
But it's like, he has no one to talk,
it's kind of sad, at least the mob is a community.
Well, he had, then he got that check.
Yeah, I have a feeling that's the last episode, I assume.
She seems like the worst person ever.
I assume she becomes pretty complicit by the last episode.
She gets everything she wants.
She's the one who kinda wins.
She's such an ice cold bitch.
She's so fucking cold, it's crazy.
She's one letter away from Charlton.
Her last name's like Shar-a-ton.
Yeah, she is an interesting character.
She is so cold.
She's interesting.
Also, they're all Jews.
This is not the best time.
Jews aren't a bad place,
and then in this fucking documentary of.
Yeah, yeah, we probably should have brought up a better,
who's a great, how about Hank Greenberg?
Yeah, he's a great show.
For every Anne Frank, there's a Jeffrey Epstein.
We do both, we do both very well.
Yeah.
Hank Greenberg, that's a deep cut. Hank Greenberg, dude, could hit the shit out of the ball. Sandy Koufax. We do both very well. Yeah.
And Greenberg, that's a deep cut. And deep fucking Greenberg, dude.
Could hit some shit on the ball.
Sandy Koufax.
Sandy Koufax, a lot of people said.
And that's it.
He was like, yeah, that's it, right there.
Oh no, don't forget about Daniel Shays.
Who's that?
Who was that?
Daniel Shays?
Goggles?
No, bad hoops.
Daniel Shays?
Hoops, Phoenix?
No.
Danny Shays?
Danny Shays, what?
Jewish basketball player. 80s? 90s. Early 90s, late 80s, Danny Shays? Hoops? Phoenix? Danny Shays? Jewish basketball player. Early 90s, late 80s, Danny Shays?
Isn't there a Jewish basketball player now in the NBA?
Julian Edelman really was great for the Jewish athlete.
Right, right, right.
He was a Jewish guy who was incredible.
He's the one, he did a pod with Sam, right?
He did.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's think about some Jewish athletes.
There's gotta be some chess players.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha Uh, I actually don't know.
Let's pull it up. Maybe we can pull it up.
I mean, I think that, I mean, Hank Greenberg, Sandy Koufax are the big ones.
Well, Hank Greenberg and Sandy Koufax are big ones.
Those guys were hall of famers.
Amari Stoudemire.
You got Amari Stoudemire.
Oh, yeah.
I've converted.
Bobby Fischer, are they Jewish or anti-Semitic.
I can't remember which for chess.
Ryan Braun, baseball player.
Dude, that's a great one.
That's a great one.
I mean, she was, you know, we.
Sue Bird.
Sue Bird, she's one of the best basketball players
of all time.
Oh, we had someone on the Storm?
Oh, hell yeah.
Look at this, Sean Green.
He was also of the tribe.
I mean, it's not great that.
Dick Savitt, tennis player.
It's not great that fourth were already going
to the WNBA, but.
That's not great.
I don't know.
It's a lot of baseball.
A lot of unathletic.
Hank Greenberg, Melissa.
Yeah, here's a good one, Jason Lezak.
Oh yeah.
He's an Olympic swimmer, that's big.
And then you got a bunch of wrestlers.
I don't know if you, yeah, the Jewish.
I don't know if we go back up with the swimming.
I don't know if I'm more surprised by the Jew
or the black guy in the pool. I'm gonna have to go black up with the swimming. I don't know if I'm more surprised by the Jew or the black guy in
The pool. I'm gonna have to go black guy in the pool on that one. Oh
Look at this Marshall Marshall Goldberg. We've gone from the WMBA to the 1930s
Hey Greenberg WBA and 1812 the first baseball game and then before blacks could play
Bernstein's a drag racer
Look at that racer. Yeah. Oh look Max bear a boxer. He looks like a tough guy
No, that room. Yeah
Wait max bit max bear. I
Think you is he the guy in Cinderella, man?
Could be the guy who he fights could be I think that guy was called like the bear
How the fuck do you turn off these notifications on your goddamn? I watch I just got an Apple
Yeah, and I don't know how to do it. I'm gonna turn them all off soon. Yeah, I hate this
Look at that Marty Hogan
Ron mix a lot of guys you never heard of Barney Ross boxer
Lenny, Lenny Kreiselberg. That's another Olympian though, dude. Gold.
He's a gold medal swimmer. There he is. Dolph Shays. I said Danny Shays, Dolph Shays. Oh
no, I think Danny Shays was Dolph Shays' son.
Yeah.
That's so funny when they scroll. It would be so funny if they scroll it was so funny this girl down as someone's holding him up
Then we got Agnes Coletti daratores so funny that's what said lock me to the Chicago base
All swimmers a lot of swimmers and a lot of baseball players Hank Greenberg. There you go. Look at that Hall of Fame Weer one of the best hitters of all time MVP You want an MVP? Sandy Koufax one of the best pitchers of all time didn't have a long career either
He hurt himself hurt himself and he would never play on Saturday. Was that fuck shit up? He didn't play in a World Series game
Yeah, I didn't play like crazy. Yeah, that's commitment. That's fucking commitment commitment to something not real
I mean, I don't know dude
Something not real. That's commitment, yeah.
I mean, I don't know, dude.
I've become, I don't know if I believe in the God,
like the dogma, but I do believe in karma.
Sure.
100%, not 90%.
100%.
I would say like it's part of the fabric
of like whatever this fucking game is
for like the highest evolved,
I don't know what the fuck it is,
but I've never not experienced it
when I've done something wrong.
And I've never not seen it happen
for someone who deserved it.
Sometimes you gotta take a long time.
It's a weird thing.
When it's happened to me, I've known it.
It's never not happened.
What's the old Martin Luther King,
the arc of the universe is towards justice or whatever?
At this point in my age, at this point in my life,
at my age, I'm certain of it, like two plus two equals four.
Yeah, there's a great joke, I forget the standup's name,
but he said, yeah, I believe in karma.
Karma's definitely real.
I was riding my bike and I knocked over
this car's rear view mirror and I was like,
you must have done something really bad to deserve that.
You know, it's funny the Indians have that.
It's an Indian.
The India, I think it's, I think.
They got really bad karma there.
I think they came up with that.
Oh, you mean that not the Native Americans?
No, no, not those Indians.
It's funny that we just still call them Indians.
I know, I guess that was me just assuming
you meant the wrong one.
No, because Christopher Columbus was like,
they're brown, they're fucking, those gotta be Indians.
He thought he was in India.
Yeah, he thought he was in India. I mean, frankly for him, it's be Indians. He thought he was in India. Yeah, he thought he was in India.
I mean, frankly for him, it's not that bad of a mistake.
I mean, listen, dude, he gave him a name.
Yeah.
Well, how the fuck is he supposed to know where he is?
He's not supposed to know.
He was looking based on the stars.
There was no, he's like,
it's really disrespectfully called them Indians.
Dude, they didn't even call themselves Native Americans.
Yeah.
Yeah, it hadn't even been called America yet.
So what were they gonna call them, by their chief names? I mean, come on. By their actual tribal been called America yet. So what were they going to call them by their chief names?
I mean, come on. By their actual tribal names. Come on.
And what would they do? Dude, they had tobacco there and they had all this stuff.
Well, we not going to take it. They had tomatoes. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, you ask an Italian now, look, because you know, the tomato came from
America. I had no idea.
So for thousands of years, Italians were not eating sauce.
The fuck, really? Yeah.
So like after you find out they got the tomatoes, how do you not take the place?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How do you go, you guys keep this?
Yeah, you can't, yeah.
After you fucking have a little, a bowl of dates?
I didn't know about the, I support the genocide now.
I didn't know about the tomato.
I too support the genocide.
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Sure.
Or whatever the fuck you guys do, let's make it. It's ball, you know, let's have a fucking key chain. It's a Yanis Papasour key chain. Or whatever the fuck you guys do, let's make it.
It's ball, you know, fucking ball holders.
Something to put your dick in.
Yeah, somebody needs to make a bra for balls
because I need one.
All right, what else we got?
That's it.