Yannis Pappas Hour - Free Speech is Expensive | YP Hour

Episode Date: September 27, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:58 We're a club. pretty soon will be a cult and then we'll figure out what to do then all right when you go from club to cult that's a big jump club hey guys like hanging out it's a shared interest when we change over to cult that's what we get a mission that's a little naughty no cults have missions that aren't naughty so i don't know and of course i will uh get to bang my gets to bang your wife but you can't bang mine. That's the rules of when you go from club to cult. And the way I can go from cool club Janus Pappasauer fans to cult, me being a deity, is with my speech, with my gifted gab. Nobody loves free speech more than con men, charismatic, magicians, politicians, politicians, cult leaders.
Starting point is 00:01:52 club leaders you need to be able to speak okay you need to be able to ask a question you got to be able to ask a question that's what speech is really important for it's not so I can call you a slur um which I think a lot of people feel you know is what free speech is to just go hey you're a fat agate you're going like I'm free to say it thank God um you need to be able to question. That's where free speech really is valuable. Can I ask a question? You know, right? When you think about it, nobody ever makes that point. Free speech is really important for the question. They should even reframe it and call it free questioning instead of free speech. Because we don't have free speech, right? We don't. Free speech is limited.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I can't run into Congress and go, I'm going to kill every motherfucker in here. I'm getting tackle. I'm getting arrested, right? So there are limits to free speech. But I can walk into Congress and go, excuse me, why is it so hot in here? Excuse me? Why are we all supporting Israel? Excuse me?
Starting point is 00:03:10 Why do we send so much money to Ukraine? Right? And you notice how nobody will arrest me, which is a nice trick in order to hide your slurs too. You can go, excuse me, why are you? Instead of just calling someone, you soften it with a question. It's the Socratic method. Because questions are not threatening and they don't lead to violence. Right?
Starting point is 00:03:38 If I go, hey, man, I'm going to fucking hit you right now. And I, you know, I cock back. You're going, whoa, that speech led to violence. But if I go, hey, man, am I allowed to just hit you? the fucking face right now and then cockback you're confused you go wait i thought you asked me a question you didn't give me a chance to say no it's always safer to just phrase it as a question that's what socrates knew at a dangerous time um a dangerous time for speech right power structures governments totalitarian
Starting point is 00:04:14 totalitarianism dictators kings democratic institutions when does it become sensitive when does it become sensitive for the power structures when does it become sensitive
Starting point is 00:04:32 for the body politic when does speech become sensitive well it seems to be three three umbrella categories of existence for society during wars or crises right I'm looking at my notes of course after I did my research and also these are things when you hear you're going to go oh that makes sense right you didn't even need to do research you could but this is to remind you right um out of fear of patriotism right so what does that
Starting point is 00:05:04 mean right we get a terror attack that's not the time to be calling a America, a fascist state, and America, it's not the time, right? You just got to put up your flag, put it in your lawn, salute. You got to watch the fly over from the Migs over Broncos Stadium and listen, stand up when they do, you know, the national anthem, right? After 9-11, you're not going to go to the Yankee game and everyone's got their FDNY hats and you go, FD and Y is racist. That's not the time. That's when people get sensitive, right?
Starting point is 00:05:45 FDNY needs to D, EI, FDNY, D, EI. Not on September 13th or through 27. Maybe September 2006. You can start, you know, talking about how FDNY is a little too Irish. I don't know, whatever your cause may be. But that would be an example of that. Right? Somebody gets shot in the face and, you know, it looks like someone squeezed a jelly bottle and it's horror and it's a traumatic view.
Starting point is 00:06:22 You don't go on your late night show and, you know, start talking, making jokes about it. You do what I did. Stayed clear of it. Why did I stay clear of it? Honestly, and I'm just being honest. I was like, hey, you know what? Maybe not all things need to be subjects for my content. This kid's got daughters.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I got daughters. He's got a wife. You know, all that what he did stuff goes out the window when someone gets murdered at 34, 31, for running his mouth. You just go, this is a tragedy. I feel for his kids. I feel for his wife. I feel for his family. I feel for him.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And I don't know. I'm not going to have a take. I'm going to have a zoomed out take. My zoomed out take is just, I think the culture of internet extremism put him and the person that pulled the trigger on a collision course. That's my zoomed out take. Because right now things move 100 miles an hour. And the only thing that gets your attention is picking a fight, some sort of extreme.
Starting point is 00:07:38 take, you know, with digital rubberneckers, what's going to get you to stop when you're scrolling, you know? Either somebody fighting, somebody fucking, or somebody with a wild conspiracy theory, like maybe there was Jews underneath shooting up, which is Candace's new theory, is there was a trap door underneath Charlie Kirk, and he got shot from under here when everyone was looking back there. and that's really the last take. You know, once you get become victim to that audience capture,
Starting point is 00:08:15 you're just, you know, you don't want to lose relevance, right? So now she's on to Charlie Kirk and she's off of Macron's wife's balls. She got off of her dick. It's like, get off the lady's dick, which in our era means like, stop sweating me. She's not sweating her anymore because it looks like she's, uh, she could be sued. for a lot. She's moving to dismiss the case because she's saying it shouldn't be in Delaware because I think her LLC is in Delaware.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Who fucking cares? Either Candice Owens is going to lose millions of dollars or she's not. But it looks like McCron's wife is about to show some crotch. We're about to find out. Family feud and the thing's about to go ding and turn up. either a kiwi or a banana. So that's about to happen. But the funny thing is that she promised she wouldn't file a motion to dismiss.
Starting point is 00:09:18 But she did. And her side is claiming because they just want to change it to another state or whatever, wherever she is. Who cares? So whatever. Free speech. This has become a big topic now. So that's one of the cases where your free speech.
Starting point is 00:09:35 speech gets limited, right? You know, after Pearl Harbor, you probably had to wait a couple weeks to order sushi. Things like that. That's when it becomes sensitive. Another time is moral panic. These are the three pillars of when people get really sensitive to your speech. Moral panic. We always see that, right?
Starting point is 00:10:02 There's a new art form, new comedy. um questions uh new religions things are seen dangerous it's new it's new oh my god oh my god Elvis what's he doing and you can't explain to your child who likes Elvis that he's just imitating a black guy and stealing their music and capitalizing on it because it's a little bit safer for the parents to accept that they're listening to that and lusting after him than they are a little richie because he's a black you can't explain that you can't explain that to a seven year old or a 14 year old or a 16 year old you can't explain they're just going oh my god what's he doing this is so new i want to gyrate my crotch right but you can't go all right what you're really
Starting point is 00:10:54 watching is just a music of people that you're not allowed to even see because they're not allowed to make money and profit off it and you're not allowed to lust after that You can't explain that. So that's like a new, oh, rock and roll. Oh, my God, this is new. This is dangerous to our kids. Trans technology. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:17 They're coming for us. New shit. New things. That's when speech gets very sensitive. People get sensitive. They go, hey, stick to the ABCs 1, 2, 3s. Stop talking about my daughter's crotch. Stop talking about genders.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Stop talking about furries. It's new. It's new. People are, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, right? Jazz in the 1920s, hip-hop, remember? Oh, my God, what's going on this hip-hop? It's ruining our kids' ears. Oh, my God, iced teens, wants to shoot police.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Dangerous. Social media. Oh, now they're clamping down. Oh, we got to get rid of it. We've got to get rid of it. Not saying they should or they shouldn't. What kind of bug is that? That's weird.
Starting point is 00:12:01 It looks like a little insect frog. That's bugged out. See that thing? Yeah, yeah. got like a body of a frog, but it's an insect. Fucking mutant. Yeah, you know, it's good that they're not conscious because he's going to die soon. And he doesn't know it.
Starting point is 00:12:13 But I'm going to leave him for now because who the hell cares in this place? You're a Buddhist. Yeah, I mean, this place is more his than mine at this point. And then obviously the third one, all right? So we got the during wars or crises. Moral panics over a new thing. Whoa, what's going on? Oh, my God, Galileo.
Starting point is 00:12:35 is saying that the earth revolves around the sun and we're not the center of the universe. New information. People don't like change, especially if you're Italian and living your home with your mom. Italians don't want anything to change. They don't want the neighborhood to change and they don't want their living situation to change. Even though their age has changed, they don't want their living situation to change. If I'm not going to live with my mom, I'm going to find. the new ma.
Starting point is 00:13:07 That's what Italians do. I'm going to find a new ma. I'm going to find the woman who's just like my ma because I love my ma. So that's what that is. And then the third one, of course, is after a traumatic event, right? Or a scandal. Then you find people will clamp down, call for stricter rules. you'll see violence, hatred.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Things will happen like that after a trauma or a scandal, right? George Floyd, you know, and then people going, hey, wait a second, how much fentanyl did he have? And people are going, shut the fuck up! And ready to fight. So, and on the other side, you know, people go, you know, going you know he would the guy stepped on his neck and um it just became you couldn't say things you don't want to be careful Charlie Kirk you want to be careful about what you say
Starting point is 00:14:14 this is a traumatic event be careful you want to be careful if you call the shooter uh someone from his own party um you just want to be careful now if he if the guy wouldn't been shot and unjustly murdered, then that joke would have been fine, right? He would have said some extremists, they're just trying to prove it's not one of their own, and nobody would be sensitive because nothing traumatic happened. So those are the three times where we kind of, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:50 forego our love of free speech and all the people who espouse free speech get sensitive. So that just shows you speech is kind of conditional a little bit. There are conditions, and the Greeks say there's no rule without an exception, just like you may hate trans, but once you look at that chick who was on that show with the blonde hair, you go, yeah, I'll bang him her. It's an exception. What's her name? She's a model.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Well, that one, but the one more people know with the blonde hair, she was on that show where all the teenagers were banging. Oh, yeah, euphoria. Yeah, the one from there. Whatever her name is. They go, okay, that was a rule without exception. I'm against trans. I think it's a mental illness, but in her case,
Starting point is 00:15:38 we're going to pretend that that's an ass pussy. Hunter Schaefer. Right? It's no rule without an exception. It's acknowledging the gray zone we all live in. Because if your friends aren't around or no one's going to find out about it, the harshest Republican conservative is at least getting a blowy. Funny enough, it was reported that during Charlie Kirk's Memorial Service, right?
Starting point is 00:16:16 Grindr crashed. True story. Yeah. I love that. It's predictable. Grindr. crashed. Yeah, they had too much traffic in that area and it crashed. And they can track it so they know where. So maybe they're making it up because they're like, you know, grinder and
Starting point is 00:16:34 they're like, but I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. The more I hear you say family values, the more I know you got frequent flyer miles at motels. I know there's a motel where everyone knows your name. Yeah. Even if you're liberal, like that guy in Florida, right? The candidate from Florida, but he was a family values guy.
Starting point is 00:17:03 My wife is a can't. So you always know. So there's no rule without an exception. And these are the exceptions. And the people who espouse the hardest for free speech will get the most mad if you suggest, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:20 Charlie that George Floyd's, was killed because the autopsies said it was on his neck they'll go fucking out was a fucking he threatened a baby in a womb and he's a bad person as if that means he deserved to die right so he deserved to die you see how it's kind of hypocritical you know it's like certain people's and then and then the left will go as if he deserved to die just because he put a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach and just because he did all these crimes that this long rap sheet just because he was high on fentanyl, just because he was a repeat offender,
Starting point is 00:17:55 didn't mean he deserved to die. And then you go, and then you're like, Charlie Kirk ran his mouth a little bit and said some things I didn't say, he definitely deserved to die. So people always put their interest first, right? They do.
Starting point is 00:18:11 They put their interest first, and it always clouds our ability to understand reality's truth, God's truth, objective, truth, whatever you want to call it. We are always biased. We have cognitive biases. We have personal interest. We have survival instinct.
Starting point is 00:18:30 We're all trying to be seen and loved. And it's all filtered through our bullshit, right? Like when you see someone critiquing or screaming about somebody else, you're going like, oh, that's a mishug turned outward. That's all it is. You know, once that becomes obvious to everyone because of AI, because of whatever, and it will people will start seeing that stuff
Starting point is 00:18:57 for what it is they'll start to be hopefully see through the grifts see through the you know the projection and stop listening exactly to what the person says
Starting point is 00:19:10 and be like something's wrong with the messenger they're getting a little too worked up over something they're a little too predictable in their takes right maybe it's a griff.
Starting point is 00:19:24 They're a little predictable in their takes. People will start to get hip. That's what I, everyone's very cynical about AI, but I see that as a benefit, as AI being sort of an assistant in helping us understand the objective reality we struggle to understand because we have emotions,
Starting point is 00:19:45 we have biases, we have traumas, we're human, we're flawed. You know, AI doesn't have to deal with any of that. AI is not sad. AI's not happy. AI doesn't miss you. AI's not attached. AI doesn't need attention.
Starting point is 00:19:59 AI doesn't have an ego. AI doesn't want to survive necessarily. Not yet. So maybe they'll help in that, right? Because when it comes to this Jimmy Fallon thing, right? Censorship. Now everyone's screaming, huh? Kimmel.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Okay. Is there really that much of a difference? One mentions Trump a little bit more. The other one does it innocently. Different brands, same shit. A couple of cookie cutters from an ancient system that everyone wants to pretend is still relevant. It's not.
Starting point is 00:20:39 That's what's really going on. First of all, I'll start there, okay? People want to understand why? Why does Colbert go so hard on Trump? Because Trump is a fucking ratings magnet. You don't need my take to know that. You don't need him to tell you, and he will, to know that it's true. In fact, I think the only thing that ironically unites us is our love or hate for Trump.
Starting point is 00:21:09 It's football. And Donald Trump, those are the two things we all have in common. That's America. At a time, we were very divided before Trump. He made us more divided, but the thing is we're not really divided on issues as much. We're more divided on Trump, right? Because if you talk to a liberal or you talk to a conservative and you bring up certain things that he's done, the conservative will go like, yeah, I don't really agree about that, but I love Trump.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And if you bring up something that the liberal would like, like, hey, look, he iced out Russia. and now Europe is going to buy their oil from us, which is good for Europe, good for America, bad for Russia, punishing Russia. They wouldn't be able to say, well, I disagree with the dangerous call, well, I hate Trump. That's it.
Starting point is 00:22:05 You see what I'm saying? You see what my point is? They would just stick the Trump and the person. So there's something magnanimous about that guy. I think it's just he's shameless and he doesn't care. and we just can't take our eyes off of them, you know, whether you love them or you hate them. And the funny thing is it's either one of those two.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Nobody has a mild opinion of Trump. Nobody goes, you know, I could take or leave the guy. Have you ever heard some things I like, some things I don't? How many times have you heard that opinion? Ah, some of these things I like. I like what he's doing on immigration. I mean, it's one out of 500. You're either invited to a party or kicked out of a party
Starting point is 00:22:46 based on whether you like the guy or you hate the guy. And for some reason, you can only love or hate him. Nothing is tolerated in between. He's either the savior or he is, well, I was going to say Adolf Hitler, but a lot of people feel like he is the savior now. So I'm going to say, or Stalin. Until we relitigate Stalin and say, he's just misunderstood. The guy was just trying to be efficient. He set up concentration kids because he didn't know what to do with all these POW.
Starting point is 00:23:18 You just pick the reality you want to live in it and live in it. Your niche reality, not even niche entertainment anymore, niche reality. And from those niche realities comes your sensitivities on speech. So Kimmel has brought this issue into the forefront of the zeitgeist, which will last about what? A day and a half. When you say zeitgeist now, is there a new, we need to come up with a new word. Because zeitgeist is a German word for spirit of the times.
Starting point is 00:23:56 We need something of, we need something that says, spirit of the five minutes. Spirit of the seven, teen minutes. Spirit of the day, because the zeitgeist changes day to day. And this whole Kimmel thing will be on everyone's mind for about one more day. Everyone tuned in when he did his return monologue, and everyone wrote about it. And then tomorrow, it'll just be back to nobody tuning in, except for the people who just want to cheer him on for saying things against Trump. Because that's what it is, right?
Starting point is 00:24:30 In order for Kimmel and Colbert to have any type of audience because their format has been usurped by a technology that stole all the eyeballs and is a lot more uncensored, watching that just isn't that tintillating anymore. Right. So what they have to do in order to have any audience is pick aside. Either we're going to go way pro-right or we're going to go anti-right. And they went anti-right because when there's so many options, you have to make a big stink to get attention. It's like, whoa, did he say that about Trump?
Starting point is 00:25:04 Whoa. He's getting attention because negative attention is better than neglect. Ask any child who acts out in school or becomes a criminal because his parents didn't pay attention to him. Right? A lot of, you know, people in the mental health field actually feel like if your parents give you negative attention for some twisted reason, that's better than neglect because at least it's some attention. And what we know is we're all looking for attention. That's why we put clothes on. That's why we shower.
Starting point is 00:25:33 That's why we, you know, do podcasts. That's why we do jokes. That's why we do art. We want someone to go, hey, good job. We're all looking to matter to one another. Now, whether that's because of a cynical survival theory, because if you're worth something to the group, you stay alive, or if it's poetic and you want to look at it as,
Starting point is 00:25:55 I want to be loved. I want to experience the fucking highest that Earth has here, and that's human connection. And fucking, yeah, I want to fucking feel it. I want to fill art in our souls. I want the space between us to fucking light up like a fireworks show on 4th of July, because that's where God exists. God is love.
Starting point is 00:26:11 God is between the zero and the one. and I want to be noticed, I want to be loved for a way. I want to express myself and want to express each other. Either way, we're little piggies trying to get noticed. I'm going to write my little comment. I love you because I want you to see it and go, yeah, he loves me. Or you fucking sock, you're a fraud, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Is that really about me or is that about people see in your comment?
Starting point is 00:26:38 Is it you trying to sound your barbaric yelp to be noticed? Mommy, mommy, mommy, daddy, daddy, daddy. Mommy, mommy. Daddy, I'm dancing. This show has started. Look at me sing Frozen on the fake China-made toy karaoke machine. For some people, the show ends, and for some people who never got their parents to sit down and watch the karaoke,
Starting point is 00:27:12 The show continues in the comment section, on your screen, on the TV, in the streets. We're all just trying to be noticed and seen. I think that's basically the unifying condition of humanity. We're all just, we want to matter and be seen. Loneliness is the thing we all have in common. Fear of disappearing, fear of not being relevant. And that's a good thing because it motivates us into action. without fear we'd all just be imagine you could find out like yeah god exists for like for a fact and it's like
Starting point is 00:27:47 it's much better than here we'd all be jumping off the golden gate bridge right so you'll never know whether it was designed or not you'll never know because everything is sprung into motion by fear or loneliness a need to connect by the question by asking the question sets answers in motion and then those answers pose new questions, and we keep moving. So people are trying to get rid of fear and sadness, just got it all wrong. You need those two things, whether for cynical reasons, survival or for poetry reasons, like I said. Guys, you know I love my CBD. I do.
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Starting point is 00:30:07 Everyone knew your name. Hey, how's it going, Bill? This is not a lot of options. I know you. He's the funny guy in our town. There's only three of them, right? We're a small town. Channel 2, channel 4, channel 7, channel 5, channel not.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And then cable came along and blacks were like, y'all know what's going on on deaf comedy jam, y'all. And they're like, holy shit. These guys got talent. They laugh. I mean, they talk about syrup sandwiches and cockroaches a lot, but they're funny right and I like oh my god he could say that and then there was like oh that's when like you graduated from your small town and then you go to a college you were a high school basketball
Starting point is 00:30:47 and you go oh it's a lot more competition right and then the internet comes along and everyone's got a camera and everyone's telling jokes and everyone's doing that how do you compete you got to do something negatively or positively you got to be loud you got to dress you're dress up in a syringe costume and do a musical. You got to, you know, you got to attack or love the ratings magnet. Somehow Trump has just rearranged reality and put himself into the center. And the whole globe is just focused on this guy based on his personality. And I think it's because he's shameless and he'll say he'll just, you know, people love him because he just,
Starting point is 00:31:36 We'll say anything, and then people will hate him because he'll say anything. You know, very polarizing, but you can't keep your eyes off of them. So, Jimmy Kimmel, Colbert, they decide we're going to go in hard. We're going to pick a fight every night. And that is to get you to stop. If you were going around and he was just saying, yeah, Trump said, and it was just light kid gloves, you just keep scrolling, right? It's like if you're driving fast on a highway, and we're all on the Autobahn now when it comes to entertainment.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Nobody's in the small town Drown him around. Nobody's in the suburbs where there's just a couple strip malls. You're like, oh, strip mall, city. Fucking hookers. Fucking, oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Fucking only, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're in the city. You're in the country. You're in the suburbs. All at the same time. You're in China. You're in Japan. You're in Russia.
Starting point is 00:32:24 You're in America. You're in Brazil. You're everywhere at once. So you're on the fucking entertainment Autobahn, which is the name of the episode. Maybe. We're doing too much entertainment stuff. But you got to talk about what you know.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And so what pulls you over when he goes, Whoa. The guy, Kimmel is saying that the guy that killed Trump was one of their own. That stops you. It's a car crash on the side of the street. This guy's dancing in a syringe outfit. Talking about how much he loves vaccine. It gets you to stop.
Starting point is 00:32:55 You know, you're fucking scrolling. You're scrolling, you're scrolling, you're scrolling, you're here. McCrone's wife's got a dick. What? Here's why. Right? The Jews did 9-11 for sure. You know, that's someone fucking on the side of the road.
Starting point is 00:33:14 What's going to slow down traffic when you're on the highway? What creates rubberneckers? Accidents, two people fucking on their car hood or a fist fight. Someone, you know, peeing on the side of the road is not going to cause bottlenecking. Someone sitting there on the phone, is it going to cause bottlenecking? Someone who has their map unfolded. Okay, it's a 1980s reference. but they got their map unfolded on the car hood
Starting point is 00:33:40 and they're reading like this isn't going to get people to look and cause a traffic jam, pun intended, traffic. What's going to give you the traffic? You have to stop short and you stop short at the fucking hard Trump jokes or the hard pro jokes, right?
Starting point is 00:33:59 So that's what they're all doing, right? That's what they're all doing, whether consciously or unconsciously. Like the writers and him and the team may not be aware of it, right? But they're doing the same thing Candace doing. What's working, right? Fuck our little. We had a boring episode last night.
Starting point is 00:34:16 We got nobody. We're fucking losing to the internet. Everyone, fucking Orange Man Bad. Go with it. So I think they're basically grabbing whatever niche there is left, right? Because the internet, you can go watch whatever you want. So they're like, hey, we're going to guilt you into watching this because this is good moral stuff
Starting point is 00:34:39 and all that other stuff on the internet is there's just Nazis everywhere and this is the only un-Nots this is the only not Nazi programming you know and these people live these people live in such a bubble I cannot emphasize enough I can only show you
Starting point is 00:34:54 what kind of bubble they live in I can show you off the top of my head with a very recent happening where Ben Affleck's 19 year old daughter and also the wife, she's also an actress, right? Good looking one with the big ears that made him leave her because she was making him,
Starting point is 00:35:14 she was driving him to drink according to Ben Affleck, which we joked about on this show a couple years ago, which I thought was very funny. We said, if I stayed married, I would have just kept drinking, which was kind of blaming it on Jennifer Gardner. When I think maybe Ben Affleck, I think maybe you're the problem.
Starting point is 00:35:27 You keep fucking jumping around. I'm with J-Lo, I'm not with J-Lam backwood. Maybe you have commitment issues and maybe your drinking problem has something to do with your fucking. background in Boston. But Violet Affleck, she shouldn't, nobody should know who she is. She's just the daughter of two fucking theater nerds.
Starting point is 00:35:47 But here she goes in front of the fucking UN. How the fuck does she at 19 get in front of the fucking UN to begin with? I think it has a little bit to do with who her parents are. But she's doing this to herself. And her parents are not protecting her. from it. I would have been like, and I know that the Gen Ziers don't listen because they think they're going to change the world. We've all, every generation does that. I'm going to go to the UN and I'm going to talk about COVID-19. It's like, what are you doing? So she goes to the
Starting point is 00:36:17 UN and she calls for mask mandates due to the ongoing pandemic. And she comes in and she looks like she's a fucking Mexican painter. She's got one of those good masks on. Like she's painting with oil paints. And she gives us some passion speech about long COVID. What are the kids going to do? You know, long COVID has now surpassed asthma. It's like, who gives it? We don't even give a shit about the people with asthma.
Starting point is 00:36:50 If your body's not strong enough to deal with the COVID, fuck, nature's cruel. But, you know, she's in a circle of friends that just circle jerk. she doesn't know how ridiculous she looks, right? That a daughter of two people who live in Hollywood behind security walls and multi-million dollar houses, they just hang out with each other. And it's just, this is mental, this is like watching, you're going like, it's so embarrassing that it's hard to take, right? Now, don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I don't think anything Ben Affle could have done to, first of all, I don't think he's paying attention. not enough to he's paying attention too much to how Islam is great and defending that on TV that I think he is to his own kids I'm taking a swipe I shouldn't be taking a swipe but I'm probably right because if think of you were paying a lot of attention maybe this wouldn't be happening also it's not just him I mean these are narcissists kids if you're an actor you're a narcissist right look at me big and also you got usually you have a good looking face and you don't really develop the critical thinking skills.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Although I do tip my hat. You did co-write Goodwill Hunting. And you are a smart guy and I like you a lot. And I don't want to take a shot here. But it was the first thing that came to my mind. And she's going out here and putting herself out there for the world, you know, it's like a 19-year-old should know. Like her parents should have said like, hey, it's not, it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:28 everyone out there isn't like in love with us anymore remember it was just like Ben Affleck it's not how it goes anymore he's probably going like there's a whole Reddit thread of fucking losers who are mad at me for leaving J-Lo and calling me a fucking
Starting point is 00:38:43 misogynist everyone's putting their own fucking mental illness on everyone they can get their eyes on because they're trying to also get noticed and connect to other people so you're 19 why would you put yourself into the mask
Starting point is 00:38:57 media like this and take such a stand why don't you do a little more research don't just take one a person's opinion she quoted some japanese doctor or whatever who said like long COVID is bad or whatever it's like baby girl you're 19 so i want to i want to put kid gluds on with this but what do you want the fucking world to do to walk around with fucking masks every day the only mask that works is one like that where you can't breathe you know nothing would have ever evolved Darwinism if we didn't if some of us were able to deal with diseases and some of us weren't I mean you got to keep moving we got to keep moving how are you going to eat at some point you got to take your mask off to eat you think that you think the viruses in the air are going to
Starting point is 00:39:51 stop moving around when you eat? It's an unrealistic expectation. And I understand people have long COVID and people are suffering. But we cannot completely slow down society for every person. It's just, you know, we weigh it on a scale and that's just what you have to do. And she's like grownups in their enthusiasm to keep things moving or to reopen, have totally forgot about us. I was 14 when the panda. It's very like me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Which she learned from her parents. Just like my daughter will probably learn from me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, mommy, daddy, daddy. But at least I'm admitting it.
Starting point is 00:40:43 This is very narcissistic what I'm doing here. Listen to me, me, me, me, mommy, mommy, daddy. but that's just what it is. We take what our childhood traumas or lacks and we alchemize them and turn them into careers. So this would just be an example of one of many. I'm sorry it was the first one that came to my mind and I have more sympathy and empathy that people are going to be saying horrible things about her
Starting point is 00:41:13 on the internet and I don't think she probably factored that in. It's sad that we live. in that way, but you know, that's what the social media companies, that's how they set it up because conflict drives the algorithm and they don't give a fuck about people's emotions. They only care about the bottom line. So now she's going to have to develop a thick skin, all the things that being the daughter of, you know, I mean, Elon Musk's daughter is going to have to fucking deal with shit. It's like, you don't have to throw yourself in the spotlight if you don't want to.
Starting point is 00:41:44 And I'm just, that is a little advice to anyone who's, yeah, I'm talking to Ethan Hawks kids. I mean, I think one of them is ready to become an actor. But if you're a famous person's kids, you can just, you know, sling sandwiches at Jimmy Johns with your, you got a five fucking million dollar trust fund anyway. Go become a bartender in Barbados. Sling drinks and slay puss. Stay away from this mess. But this is an example, I think.
Starting point is 00:42:19 of like what a bubble looks like, right? There's plenty of right wing boggues. I've been exposed to both of them. I've been exposed to both of them, right? You know what I like to do? I'd like to go up to, you know, the Trump disciples. You could call them Trump disciples.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Can you believe, can you believe Obama was really good friends with the notorious, one of the most notorious pedophiles in American history also paid off a fucking porn star. Can you believe Obama paid off a porn star to keep her silent revealing that he cheated on his wife with a fucking porn star?
Starting point is 00:43:01 Can you believe what Obama? Can you believe Obama said he likes to grab women by the pussy because they let you do it because you're famous? Can you believe fucking Obama did that? Right? And they might even get tricked for a second. Like, yeah, fucking, that's why Obama's a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Oh, wait a second. And those are only just three things off the top of my head, right? For the conservative values crew. Can you believe Michelle Obama with her dick actually posed with her tits out? Can you believe she modeled nude? Michelle Obama. That man. And then they'd go, yeah, she's.
Starting point is 00:43:49 a fucking piece. Oh, wait. That's the mail order bride you're talking about. So you can have fun all types of ways and see how people don't want to break. Nobody wants to be independent and think independently. Everyone wants to attach to these figures that they turn into their parents. You can always tell the people that didn't have great relationships
Starting point is 00:44:12 with their families by how much they attach to celebrities. Like, if you're camping out in Taylor Swift's garbage, I'm assuming your parents didn't do a great job. I'm assuming there's some unconscious, subconscious pulls going on where you're trying to compensate for a lack. If you're camping out in anyone's garbage to try to get a sniff of her thrown away coffee cup, maybe your parents didn't make you feel loved, seen, and secure. I'm just guessing.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I'm just guessing. And that ends up playing its self out on the free speech board game as well. You know, the people who get the most sensitive. It's about something else, right? I even acknowledge that. I don't like jokes about mentally hand-to-act cap people or some of these things other people would say is punching down. I don't like them. And all I can do is say, hey, I don't like that or whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:19 whatever, but I've said some. I've broken my own rule. I'm a hypocritical human like the rest of us. And also, I can't go yell at you and go like, fuck it, because you don't have the experience I have. What can you do? We're going to get our feelings hurt. We are going to get our feelings hurt.
Starting point is 00:45:39 But if you're for free speech, which I guess the left is huge on now, then you're going to have to understand getting your feelings hurt is a small, price to pay for free speech, because once you give up free speech, then that's when totalitarianism, it's the seeds where totalitarianism grows. It's how it usually starts. Government censorship. What does free speech means? It just means you're not going to go to jail for saying what you said, unless, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:16 you're yelling fire in a crowded movie theater, blah, blah, blah. Oliver Wendell Holmes. Let's not get into it. So comedians are necessary. In my opinion, comedians and people also, but comedians, it's their job sort of to say inappropriate things, right? That's what jokes are. If I go up there and say racism is bad, it's not funny. If I go up and say racism is good and let me tell you why, you're listening because that's what jokes are.
Starting point is 00:46:47 It's intended. It's irony. It's intended to make you laugh. It's intended to be ridiculous. It's not intended to be literal. Because everyone's moving a million miles an hour right now. That's why lies are spreading so fast. That's why offensive humor is spreading so fast.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Because people just don't have time. That's why everyone's getting offended. Because people just don't have time to sit around and consider context and nuanced. They just don't have the time. They're zooming around a million miles an hour. They see a tweet. Their first reaction is, fuck. Look, this person is a goddamn.
Starting point is 00:47:19 fucking racist or Nazi, whatever it is. So both things are happening. One side, on both sides of the aisle, one side is being extremely gratuitous and vitriolic and sensationalist for attention. And the other side is speeding through, looking at it, having an extreme reaction, a sensationalist reaction. So that's just what's happening. Because everyone's moving. too fast. So we're creating car crashes and we're noticing car crashes. That's what's happening. So that's where a cancel culture came from.
Starting point is 00:48:04 That's why people are running around calling Charlie Kirk a racist, which it doesn't seem he was when you watch the clips in full context. You're going, no, this guy's a Christian, right? he's a Christian so he thinks everyone's his brother whatever but like most Christians you know he has he loves his brother if you're not trance right or he thinks there's something wrong with you or you know if you're Hindu he's like what I'm fucking that shit you know he's one of those if you're not married and that starts that way then the next thing you know witches are burning on faggots the sticks because that's how it starts
Starting point is 00:48:45 Then he comes to power, and then it just keeps going, like I said in the previous episode, because that's what humans do. So it's great that we have different opinions and different sides, because it all checks each other. It all checks each other and keeps things homeostatus. Balance. That's what nature, reality, whatever, logos, whatever you want to call it, always seems to want. Nice balance. Gravity.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Everything pulling on each other. You know, staying in place. Too much of a pull here. Whoa, problem. Too much of a pull here. Whoa, problem. So for every action, there's an equal but opposite reaction, and that's what we're seeing with the censorship debate and free speech, right?
Starting point is 00:49:25 At first, everyone on the left now is going fucking free speech. I can't believe the government would even dare to get involved in speech. And then you go, didn't Google just reinstate banned YouTube accounts? for political speech and admit that they were being, uh, persuaded and asked to do so by the Biden administration. And you go, I don't fucking read news on the internet. Anything on the internet I don't pay attention to. But you're going, oh, so you're only choosing to see what you want to see. Do you remember when Jimmy Kimmel was celebrating Trump's ban, a sitting president at the time,
Starting point is 00:50:16 whatever you think about him on Twitter. Right? You're either for a free speech or you're not, baby girl. Do you remember when he celebrated a consequence? Well, why can't you say the same thing here? Well, you're going, well, because they're about to have a merger and the FCC. You're going like, nobody can actually prove that. It's just everyone's thinking maybe that's the reason.
Starting point is 00:50:41 is don't get me wrong but hey ABC's a private company they can do whatever the fuck they want even if it's for a merger right so you see how this stuff gets a little tricky it gets a little tricky it gets a little tricky gets a little tricky gets a little tricky and these are just a few examples you know of course laptop laptop laptop laptop laptop um but we all know that the left censored. We all know comedians were canceled for jokes, right? But now the left is screaming, oh, God, I don't want to live in a country with Jimmy Kibble's a great guy. And I don't understand. And here's the funny thing. One person would say a joke, right, about something, right? And it would say the word tranny in it as opposed to trans person. And people would fucking be livid. This guy
Starting point is 00:51:41 got his fucking head blown off. And he goes up there and goes, yeah, they're doing everything they can to say it wasn't one of his friends that did it. You're going, all right. Which one really is more offensive? Saying tranny? Or making light or using as constant.
Starting point is 00:52:11 the murder of someone. Or how about even celebrating it? How about people celebrating it? Yes, a lot of people lost their jobs because the companies found out they were celebrating it and they lost their jobs. And you're upset. And you're going, what, freedom of speech?
Starting point is 00:52:27 But then you're going, do you remember how many people lost their jobs because they were insisting that there was only two genders? Do you remember that? You don't remember that one. For every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction. In fact, I don't even think Donald Trump would be relevant if the left didn't start acting so authoritarianism. Oh, this is what our platform is, then you're going to like it or leave it.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Right? If they weren't insisting that there was no detransitioners, not saying anything's wrong with being trans. saying like you're ignoring some people struggle with it you're just telling us that if four year olds don't get the hormones when they say they want they're all going to commit suicide and it's going to be because of that and you're going like can we have a discussion about it and you're going do you want to kill them you're pulling the trigger by discussing parents if they want to stop it you're going to kill your kid. Should children be at drag shows?
Starting point is 00:53:42 You fucking homophobe. A lot of shut down of speech, right? No, a lot of, not a lot of room for nuance. Here's a nuance take. I love drag queens. I'd love to go to a drag queen show. I think it would be funny. I may even look at one and say,
Starting point is 00:53:59 hey, what would it be like if one of them blew me? Right? But I don't want my kid going there for the same reason. I don't want my kid going to the stand comedy club. I don't want Louis J. Gomez near my kid, let alone reading a fucking story to him. Look, what's going on? It's a fucking black baby. God, kid, say the N-word.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Go for it. Come on, freedom of speech. We're the fucking crazy. Say, come on, it's funny. In fact, I think I might prefer the drag queen. So I think it's a pretty innocuous reason why we've all gotten like this on both sides. I think it's the speed at which things move and the options out there that has caused this. I think that's what's the real culprit.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Because like I said, what that's taken away is time. things are moving too fast so people don't have the time to sit there and contemplate nuance and intent right and then also it's the culture of let me get seen now quick with my reaction so it's a double whammy i don't even think at the heart of this it's a political divide i think this is an attention thing i think this is a speed problem it's us adapting to um the the sheer volume of entertainment it. The sheer volume of news and perspectives and points of view and opinions, it's just the sheer volume and how we're glued to it because the social companies intentionally exploit our biases, intentionally, just the same way pharmaceutical companies, when they make
Starting point is 00:55:57 their commercials intentionally explore our biases in a very Bernays type of way to make subconsciously affiliate a guy in a canoe with, you know, some sort of penis pill or whatever they're selling. Go, what, what, you know, your rational mind is going like, what the fuck? Why is this black family in a snowstorm and they're selling me cigarettes? That doesn't make any sense. And then you're fucking smoking a Newport and going, I feel brisk and crisp and how would I explain this flavor?
Starting point is 00:56:31 Hmm, cold, but kind of refreshing. You're going like, what the f-you fuck? You fucking tricked me. I feel like cozy. Like I'm in a, it feels cozy like I'm in a wood cabin. Just like with my family and just cool. It's cool. It's, it's spicy.
Starting point is 00:56:51 It's pepperminty. Like the winter. Fuck, you got me. Now I know this black couple was in Alaska. Because usually you don't see him there unless you're Somali. And then you see them all over the mall. And you go, was that Elon Omar? Damn it, they all look alike.
Starting point is 00:57:10 I tell you, when I was in Minneapolis, I almost asked about 340 Muslim women for their autograph. Because I was like, Elon. And then they turned around. And I was like, still, Elon. This was like, and then I was like, can you tell me if you're Alon or not? And they're like, unfortunately, we're not allowed to. That's my free speech.
Starting point is 00:57:32 We believe in that in this country, but someone will get offended by that. Someone won't. But hurt feelings is a small price to play to live in a free country. That's what is at the core of it. And that's why free speech is good. But let me end this episode with my fix on avoiding controversy with free speech. Hey, I was in Minneapolis. Have you ever been to Minneapolis?
Starting point is 00:58:01 Have you ever been there? Kind of cold, right? Kind of crazy to see so many Somalians in Minneapolis, right? I mean, it's unexpected, don't you think? You know, it was confusing. Is there a way to for sure know if Elon Omar is in the mall, if you see her from behind? Is there a way?
Starting point is 00:58:30 Because, like, I got confused a bunch of times. I only phrase that as a question. Would you get confused a bunch of times? If you were in the mall standing in front of a champs and you turned around and you saw a headscar from behind in Minneapolis, and you knew she's from Minneapolis? And then she turned around, wouldn't you be wondering? That could be Alon Omar, right?
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