Yannis Pappas Hour - Funny Way to Celebrate | YP Hour

Episode Date: June 14, 2026

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free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming, Ontario. What's up, everybody? Welcome to another sporad. intermittent episode of the Janus Papasour. That's eponymously named for myself. Aponymous. That's a good word.

You know eponymous? Am I saying it right? Aponymous. Hippopotamously named eponymous. Janus, that's me. Our, is what we strive for. Okay? Sometimes it's a little shorter.

It's a little longer. But, you know, it's a construct. Time is actually a construct. It is a construct. We're recording on the heels of an absolutely phenomenal, miraculous victory by the New York Knickerbockers, the Knicks. The New York Knicks, it's just fever, 28, 29 million people watching, you know, sports. Sometimes it just, this thing, it just happens.

I think people need something, right? So everyone, I mean, you walk around New York, it's absolutely nuts. I don't remember this level of fervor for the Yankees in the World Series or the Giants. I think it's because it's been so long for the Knicks, Madison Square Garden, the allure, the tough times, the city, the politics, whatever it is, the story of the players, the David and Goliath. Um, scenario, storyline. Wembe's like a giant. It's a Jewish city. So you got David and Goliath.

You know, you know, there's the meme going around. I wonder who wrote the meme. My, what is it? My bagel is Jewish. My mayor is Muslim. Um, something Nixon 3 or something. Somebody came up with it. I'm pretty sure it's the CIA or the Mossad or somebody.

I just don't know because it's just, it's just, it's just meme. trying to bring everyone together and it's so corny. My mayor is Muslim. My bagels are Jewish. My Christian Dior, my Nixon four. I mean, and it's, and just the following name. First of all, it's not even good, right? It's not even good.

The bagels get a shot out. That's very New York. They're Jewish. Okay. It's a very Jewish city. My mayor is Muslim. We know that. We know that.

We've heard about that. And then my Christian Dior, just to rhyme with. What can anyone call a first-tier rapper and get something because, and then everyone's sharing this. So it just shows kind of the sheep-like mentality that we do have, which is troublesome. It's what makes democracy and freedom a little troublesome because what you need with freedom and democracy is a little responsibility, class, and tact, which is hard to achieve. achieve because freedom requires, wait, I can do this. I can go buy an egg from the bodega and throw it at Wembe.

I can. So it's, you can understand why dictators happen. You can understand why authoritarian rule happens. It's not just because of the power hungry or baby eating. elites, in some ways, we ask for it. In some ways, we go, what's this happened? What's this happened? And then we take an egg and we throw it at a San Antonio spur after the game.

And we torch a car. Some poor Pakistani guy is out of a cab. He's just out of a cab. Why? Because people were actually happy, which is what, I just don't get all the time about humits. Here's a guy who's happy with no shirt on being arrested by cops. Because he was happy.

It's for me personally, it's beyond my scope of understanding. Maybe because of my particular psychology, maybe it's something I'm naive about that I'm not getting that is really cool and fun. I don't know. It doesn't seem cool and fun. I just, I don't know what that is. It's a very interesting thing. It's almost like violence with your sex.

Like I don't know why a girl would say choke me or why a guy would want to choke a girl. I don't know. Supposedly it's safe and it's like everyone loves it and it's a consent trial. It's a consensual and it's all great. I still don't get it. Like I don't understand. I've never had the urge to wrap my hands around a girl's throat. It's not in my thing.

I've never wanted to hit. I don't understand. It's like to me, sex and violence are two opposite things, right? When you're angry, you want to fight and hit. And when you're horned up, you want to fuck. You want to bang. You want to kiss. You want to caress.

You want to smell. You want to lick. You want to do a lot of licking and sniffing and touching and squeezing. You want to, and juice, you want juice, there's juices around. I never think, oh, this is, you know, this is one of, I want to fucking get hit or hit. I, I, so this is one of those things where it's opposite, where you're happy, but you're rioting. So, and this isn't an American thing. This is, this is definitely what the Europeans love to do, right?

They love to go nuts and burn a city down after a victory. I wonder. And it's very weird because it's sports. Like I wonder after Rome beat Carthage, did they burn Rome down in celebration? Or is it just sports? Is it because, like, the people who are involved in the wars, right? And I guess that type of sport where there's a winner.

are actually like warriors with his life and death. There's no spectators. Is it the spectators get riled up? Energy is definitely contagious, right? You go to boxing matches, UFC. There's always something in the stands. Alcohol plays a big part of it. Those are factors that one needs to consider.

But I would argue if you did a sobriety test, on a few of these guys. I bet you they weren't drunk, some of them. There's a fervor that happens, right? People just start jumping around. They get their shirts off. It's hot. I wonder if there's some sort of data on,

does this happen? Obviously more during the summer. Here they are just rioting. I mean, people are just rioting because they're happy. The Knicks won. So here's the guy, he's got his belt off,

and he's whipping. How does he? has happened. I don't know what this means or what it is, but all I do know is, you know, the people say, hey, we want a real, we want a real voice in the democratic power structure. We want a real voice. And you go, maybe that's not a good idea for other people who aren't rioting. I don't know. I don't know. It's just an, it's an interesting question you can ask yourself.

We've all met persons. We've met persons. Hi, how are you? What's your name? You have a name. I have a name. It's a comm exchange. And then you've, we've all met people, which is, you know, more than four.

But when you get to 15, 20, 100, 100, a thousand, something. different happens. Something different happens where there's a bloodlust that is only contained by authority. It's the only thing that contains. Like if there were no cops out there on a very happy occasion, what would be the difference between people being mad at police brutality or this? I think it would be sort of a similar result. Like I think if this went unchecked and there was no police presence,

I think it's going to another level just because of the fervor that's been kicked up. So we definitely respond as a species to emotions and suggestion and self-reinforcement. The mob mentality is just something. It's like a spell that comes over people. It's unique. It has nothing to do with intelligence or potentially. for intelligence? You know, that's the interesting thing about AI, right?

So AI has clearly passed the Turing test, clearly displays high intelligence, but has not gone through evolution, right? So if you're philosophical, this has, you know, this has created some new question. You're going, you know, okay. Are emotions the result of intelligence, right? Are emotions the anger, you know, jealousy, fear, you know, envy, ire, rage. Is that the, you know, because, you know, crocodiles don't have rage, right? And you go, well, AI has no emotions, but it's intelligence. So there, it's decoupled.

The intelligence is decoupled from. emotions. And so you know that it is possible to be an intelligent entity and not have emotions, right? We knew that from psychopause, but that's a whole other caveat. And so you go, what is this? What are these emotions? Nothing happened to your family. So why the rage? Where does the rate, where is the happiness turn to rage? And I guess what the only conclusion you can draw is that when any emotion gets to a high level, it turns to destruction. I think that is my insight into it. And how does it get to that level? Reinforcement from other people. Numbers, just noise, maybe? I don't know. It has to be reinforcement and then some sort of

spell takes over because logically it doesn't make sense that if you're happy, you would destroy something that's completely irrelevant, irrelevant to the source of your happiness. So it's a very odd thing that happens that has happened and is happening in New York. It's very odd that you go, whoa, if the Knicks win, they're going to burn the city down. or you go, whoa, when a European soccer team wins, they riot. I mean, you know, a Greek team won the Euro championship in basketball. I think it was Panathianakos. And, you know, they almost set Athens ablaze.

So this isn't an American thing. This is just a people thing. This is a people thing. And when you see this type of behavior, you go, do we need? Do we need President Z? Do you need surveillance? Everyone complains about surveillance and the deep state or the surveillance state.

And then they get a chance to be free and have something good happen. And they just destroy the place, right? They destroy property that's not theirs. Nobody's smashing their own walkmans, by the way. Look at that old reference. Nobody, I'll even, I'll even, I'll show you how fast technology has got.

Nobody's smashing their own iPods. Even that one is antiquated. Nobody's taking their own phone and smashing it, right? That's what's interesting, right? People go, you know, it's capitalism. You know, you're a simp for capitalism. Or like, you're such a fucking simp for capitalism. Or, you know, what do you think capitalism is the only thing that can get to fucking work?

Like, what did people do before capital? Oh, you go, you go, oh, you mean feudalism? You go, like ancient Greece when they had, like they still had markets. Capitalism was almost inevitable because they still had like markets, right? They had a monetary system. They had coins. It was like barterish, but it was still a market. You could lend and you could buy things with the coins.

It wasn't exactly capitalism or it was like never ending profit and reinvesting for never ending profit. But it was an ancestor to capitalism just naturally. And you go, this is. mine, this is my business, these are my cattle, and then there's laws around that. So we were always kind of flirting around that Adam Smith just get, hey, man, just fucking codify it. And then there's this idea of like, hey, we're all sharing. It's all shared.

It's all redistributed, shared, you know, all the people kick in. It's basically an office sous. I don't know if you ever did, worked in a job with a bunch of people who were lower middle class like I have, but everyone needs a big bang. Everyone's got a big bill or a debt they're trying to pay off. So an office does what they call a sous, where everyone kicks in 20 bucks or whatever, and then it like rotates who that pot goes to.

So you feel like you're making money because you're getting a bunch. It's what people who don't understand business that are generally poor think is a big score. Because what they don't understand is every week or month, you're putting the same amount of money in that you get back on the win. You're just, everyone's got a big debt that they're paying. paying off at once. So instead of just putting that 20 aside for yourself and then after a couple of months,

just taking the pot and paying it off, you throw it in a sous-su-so so you feel like you won something. It's completely psychological and not logical, right? But there's that idea that, oh, we're going to share. And the reason why I'm bringing this up, you know, I know I talk about it a lot because I'm just, I'm relaying it to like this. Like this is a public, these are public streets, other people's problems. property, right? Not rich people's property. You know, just a cab, just a cabby who got his car

fucking smashed because people were in a good mood. So I wonder if it's any emotion that gets too high that just spills over into destruction. Here they are on top of another person's car. And they're just jumping and their kids. And, you know, if you're a dictator, you're a dictator, you're going, oh, we got to start a war and send these kids to war. They don't know what to do with their energy. But people are happy, and then people make excuses for it. They go, they're young, they're happy. What are you going to do?

And that's where it starts. And then the next thing you know, somebody throws an egg at Wembe, and he gets away with it because there's so much beds. And then it's a little more and a little more and then a little more. And then you have what you call a nice, good old crime. wave because you're depending on the goodness of people and you're not factoring in this fervor that happens because it's funny because this fervor happens even oh for good things or when times are good you know in europe like you know they'll ride in like fucking austria or whatever and you're

like or they'll riot in fucking in places where it's not destitute you're not in modern day Sudan And they riot. And they got clothes on and beers and jobs. And they're coming back bloodied with their shirts off. They're fucking fat jiggling around. So you're going, what is that? How do you control that? Because you're going, there's no, what's the policy that led to that?

What is the right wing policy that led to that? What is the left wing policy that led to that? What is the left wing policy that led to that? It seems like it's just a thing that happens where you need to either go leaning on it or be strict or, you know, I don't know, that fervor where people just get that blood lust, you know? What are the policies that lead to the school bully? That ends up just start beating people up, taking their shit. Like, what is that? You know?

Is that because of social inequity? Like this Nick Spurs series, right? The first couple of games, it's become quite obvious to anyone who knows anything about basketball, that the whistles have been generally going one way. Statistically, you can see that, but just you can eyeball it. And you're going, Jalen Brunson can't get the ball up the court without getting banged and bumped like it's 1991. right um the bigs are getting into foul trouble i think i think uh in game two or three jalen brunson went to the foul line in the fourth quarter or whatever and the announcer said this is the fourth

free throw for the nicks of the second half or something whereas the spurs were at like 20 or 12 or 13 or whatever it was um so game three Spurs shot 32 foul shots, the Knicks 22. It's 10 more opportunities. The Spurs were awarded 24 free throw attempts. While the Knicks received only eight in the second half, when the game's on the line, 24 to 8. And you watch the game, you're going,

both teams are being physical. Both teams are playing physical. And you look at the particular calls, and, you know, a quarter of them or a half of them, you're going, ah, that was questionable, but then you're seeing non calls on the other side for similar infractions for at least a third of those calls. And then you're looking at the money involved,

and you're going, this is the highest rated series because it's a big market team, the Knicks. The Knicks haven't won in so long. Everyone's watching it. Taylor Swift's watching it. So it's brought all these non-basketball fans out, and you got to think Adam Sandler's sitting there going wuddle, wuddle, wu-wobah, wub.

And you think the networks are going wuddle, wuddle, wub. And everyone's getting the little tingle. Everyone's get the Jew tingle going. Because money is flowing. And you're thinking, are they trying to extend this series because of how much money is being made? You know, you start to think that when you look at the reffing, right? You see the powers to be. Are they telling the refs like, hey, you know, no calls, do what you can.

You know, all the refs, by the way, are NDA to the, you know, they can't fucking say a word. you know, I remember there's a kid I grew up with who's a referee. I remember I was like, hey, why don't you come on a podcast? He was like, oh,

yeah, that's, we, they're not even allowed to do interview. They can't, you can't even know anything about them. It's like they are so, you know,

you got to be careful with that. Like, I'm sure the mob tries to get to the, everyone tries to get to them. And they can't say a thing. They're not allowed to talk about anything. It can't say anything. But you're watching the game and you're going,

And there's, the refs are being lax on the calls. They're being lax on the calls. And you're going, the spurs are hacking and they're not getting the call. And so you're going, what would fix this? And you go, what social inequities are causing the spurs to violently assault the Knicks so much? is it a lack of policing? And you're going, you find yourself going, the refs aren't doing enough.

We need more reffing. And you go, no, no, no, no, no. This problem won't be solved by more policing of the game. This problem will be solved by a redistribution of wealth and justice. So I just wonder what social inequities were causing the, spurs to foul so much. Were they encouraged by a lack of whistles, a lack of refereeing in the game?

Because, you know, once you start blowing the whistle a lot, the coaches guys say, hey, man, no foul. We're fucking giving away too much to the line. So I just wonder about that. I wonder about those theories when a microcosm or an analogy comes up and you go, okay, let's place that in that and see if it matches.

You get the analogy, right? The smarter people get it for the dumber people. The refs of the police, the fouls not being called to the crimes, you know, the mantra, the slogan would be, more policing doesn't stop crime. But I said I want more refing. I want more refing. You're going, okay, but no, we have to deal with the root cause of these fouls.

it's not lack of policing. It's not that. The ref, which is the police in this analogy, they're irrelevant. It's like something, society has failed the spurs in some way. Historical forces, that's why, that's why they're fouling so much

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And you take politics out of it and you go like, okay, so what really under Biden, why did so many come? Was it because his rhetoric was so much more lax? Or was it because things got more desperate in South America during that time? you know, I'm sure there's different, I'm sure all that played a role. I don't think anyone comes here if their place isn't not better, right?

So that always plays a role. But then you see the sheer increase in illegal immigration. I hate to call it illegal because it breaks the law. I hate that, but for my point, I'll say it's against the law because that's what's in the books, but it shouldn't be called that. I don't, for whatever reason. It's discriminatory, but, you know, on the books, it's illegal.

Why did it increase under Biden, but not under Trump? Why did crime go down with, you know, aggressive policing policies under Giuliani and Bloomberg? Like, why? Was it because they were discriminating, beating people up? Was that the norm? Was it, you know, when you have a strict father, or do you have a lax father?

Like, what do you, do you, you know, is it the call? Like, you know, it's a complicated thing. if your parents come down hard on you, do you do less bad things? If your dad and mom are a pushover, is it easier? If your dad's not present, is it easier? Generally, I would think common sense, not even logic. Sorry, I picked my nose for a second, got I have an itch. Sometimes I get an itch, I think, when I'm, I don't know what the itch is about,

but it happens when I'm doing the podcast. I don't know what that means. It's like Slovak. I just get that, whatever's name is. But common sense. would say it has something to do with the consequences. Like, we do think about consequences, I believe. I believe a common sense would say that.

Like, oh, don't do that because, again, because it's not people smashing their own iPhones, right? It's someone else's property that's being destroyed. I always noticed that. I always noticed that, too, when people go, oh, they're just excited, their kids. And so you go, okay, but why aren't they smashing their own iPhones then? Why aren't they punching themselves in the face? Why ain't they're taking eggs and going like this on their own head? Right?

Why are they assaulting a guy in a spurs jersey? Or like why are they smashing a random cap? Or lighting something on fire. It's always things that doesn't belong to them. So they have enough sense. They have enough sense and control of the fervor to not attack themselves. So that is very intriguing to me. when it comes to the explanation of,

oh, they're just too emotional. It's like, yeah, but they still have some rules. And that rule is basically your shit. Your shit's not my shit. So there's something to that. So there's something like when they go, all these fucking greedy, rich people who don't want to give their taxes going,

that's their shit. Just like your iPhone's your shit. It's a similar anatomy, right? Like, he wants to keep his shit. and you don't want to destroy your shit, but you want to destroy other people's shit. So it's a similar thing. The main point is people care about their shit.

They can control their emotions when it comes to their shit. Right? And then you go, oh, but if we all share it, it all belongs to us and everyone will treat it as such. And you're going, that's exactly what city property is. When they're fucking pulling on the stop signs, You're going, you fucking moron. You paid for that.

And they go, they go, well, fuck that. I didn't fuck that. And you're going, and technically you're right. Technically, it depends. If you're a really poor guy, you didn't pay for it. But the people who you demand pay for shit did pay for it with their taxes. And now they got to pay for it again, which that money could have went someplace else. Nobody's thinking.

Nobody's fucking thinking. So when people make these points. Nobody's thinking. They're emoting. People emote. They don't think. When I watch these fucking things, I see people emoting. Nobody's sitting there thinking going, I have a plan.

Let's destroy this city block. Let's fucking riot because it will be efficacious in this particular way. For me, for the city, for my family, we'll get more. or they're emoting. People emote. This guy right now who just jumped on a car, oh, they're destroying a city bike. Are they thinking?

They're emoting. But again, I can't help but notice that that is not the person who just jumped on it. It's not his bike or the two or three. That cab that is destroyed that we're looking at right now. That doesn't belong to the people. who destroyed it. So the fervor thing is not enough for me.

It's not enough, that theory that it's just, oh, people get crazy. And we go, well, they think enough not to destroy their own. They're not bashing their own heads, right? They're bashing somebody else's head. So there's something in humanity that needs consequences, is my point. Outside, because there's a shittiness about people when it comes to other people's stuff, whether they want to take it without. you know, just say, give me more of it, or I want to destroy it.

There's something about other people's shit that people don't care about. You can see that in public restrooms, unless you're fucking Japanese, unless you're Japanese, you go to any public restroom in Amsterdam, in Europe, in South America, in America, right? You go to any public restroom. That is how people treat property that they've all pitched. in for. That is how they treat other people's shit. Right? When you take a piss, you know, and it's not in your bathroom, unless you have shame and like real manners or, you know,

and that takes a lot from your family and you're fucking, you know, growing up. Like, you just don't, but when you're in a public place, you fucking wing it. You just wing it. There's puddles of pee on the floor because you're not cleaning it up. It's not your bathroom. You don't own it. So you just ruin it. Right? It would take such, it would take thousands of years of homogeneity, philosophy, a cohesive culture that emphasizes shame and public. It would take such a thousands of years for that group. It would almost have to happen. on an island, the way it happened with Japan for you to go to a public bathroom in Japan and for it to be spotless clean.

Because I've been to Amsterdam. That's another culture, another people, and they got their dicks out, and they're fucking peeing on plants and peeing all over the place. You know, you ever go to a porta potty? It's like people don't know where the hole is. I mean, the hole is so big, dog. The hole is so big. So there's something when it actually is somebody else's property where you kind of want to

break it a little bit. There's a little part of the brain where you want to take it, you want to break it, you want to, you want to, you know, otherwise you wouldn't see this data. And what I mean by data is like, you know, you don't need to run the numbers. You just go into a porta potty and take a peek. Sometimes I wonder, it's almost like when a baseball player gets injured and I go, how does a baseball player get injured? Have you ever wondered that? Like what? It almost always has to happen off the field in my mind.

I'm going like, what? Was he drinking? Did he have a motorcycle crash? Like, they're going like, no, he broke his ribs. I'm like, how? Unless somebody threw the ball right at his ribs, how do you get injured? And they just stand there and move, like run a little bit.

And then they're done. And then they throw the ball. And then they bat. He tore a rotator cuff. It's like, guy must not have the right diet. And then you watch like Novak Djokovic or tennis or basketball, these guys jumping around.

And you go, I understand how those guys got hurt. but how do you get hurt jogging to second? How do you get hurt standing at second? How do you get hurt standing at home plate? It's almost that. That is the reaction I have when I go into a porta party and go, how did this even happen? Like, how did someone shit on the floor?

Like, how did the piss get all over? How? Like, how can you mean? Dude, a hole for the toilet. I mean, your dick is about, you know, it's like, right? It's like, it should be a dunk. I mean, look at these porpoides. It's crazy.

It's so crazy. And there's, what do you have in these public values? You have a little bit of anonymity. You have lack of consequence. You have lack of accountability. And these things kind of just seem to bring. read. Even myself when I go in, you know, I go, you know, you spit right in the urinal. If I got a Zinn in there, I put it in there. Now the Zin's in there. The Zin's in there for someone

at some point to take out. And it's not going to be me. It's like, put this in there. Right. So what is that there's something about when it's somebody else's stuff? That's what makes sort of this idea, this utopian idea of like sharing everything. We're not. We're not all, we all don't have the same levels of respect, accountability, shame, like, and also we're all subject to something that no matter even how our upbringing is, we're all subject to this thing where we go, fuck that person's shit. We just have a little thing going, fuck it, fuck it, it's his, fuck it, let him deal with it, fuck it, you know?

It's just, we all have it. So, you know, there's an old quote by the, great false prophet Jesus Christ, who said, man cannot live by bread alone. Meaning, essentially, we need laws. You need to just say, hey, there's consequences. You need to just be, you can't, you can't, it just can't be this free for all. It needs to consequence. And then that's when you keep doing this shit.

And then the next thing you know, the people get so fed up. that they elect someone who's a little more strict than everyone would like. Daddy comes home. And Daddy puts everyone in their room. And then everyone's going, what the fuck? How did this happen? You forgot.

You guys forgot about how you got angry or happy about something and threw a rock through a stucie window and thought that that was somehow. You forgot that you were angry about the climbing, it so you went and you threw a horse manure on the Mona Lisa. You forgot about that. You forgot about the emoting that you were doing. By the way, that one just continues.

Isn't that funny? That modus operandi just continues despite its lack of results. It hasn't happened yet where someone has thrown paint or human shit on a masterpiece in a museum. and carbon emissions were slashed. It just, but they keep doing it, right? Nobody's ever blocked traffic with a human fucking shield. You know, God forbid they don't think about what if somebody has a medical emergency there

and, you know, they got to get through. It's like, have you ever thought about that? They go, now this is for a bigger cause. And you go, do you know what the definition of fascism is, actually? That's exactly the definition of fascism. fascism. Fuck this person's thing, writes, this is for a bigger cause, the state, the secure, whatever. And that person's probably going, oh, I wasn't thinking, we're here emoting. We're here emoting. But that doesn't change people's approach. They just, because when you're emoting,

you're not thinking. You know, it's something else. And the line is so thin between celebrating and protesting that the results are clear. It turns, both of them turn into a riot in some way. They turn into a riot because of these dark underpinnings in us, this dark underpinning, I should say, in us to not care and in some instances destroy shit that doesn't belong to us, right in some way there's some there's a there's a dissonance between my taxes went to this street and I'm going to piss on it I'm going to pull down this stop sign there's some dissonance to that

it's a you don't feel like you own it otherwise it would work if everyone felt that ownership that communism preaches like we all own it together we all own it together we all it's just one big fucking cabots and everyone feels like it's a part of them then you go, why are they doing this? Why do they destroy it? And you go, because it was displaced rage and you're going like, what displaced rage is this?

What displace rage is this? What? What desperation is making them be happy and destroy it? Am I making a decent point? Like seriously? No, poke a hole in it. Can you poke a hole in it? Hmm.

Like, they're happy, right? This is a celebration. So why are they rioting and breaking shit? Maybe my conclusion isn't right. But this is intriguing. But that it's happening is intriguing, right? Mm-hmm. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. There's probably some holes that can be poked in it. Sure. Sure. It's human nature, which we don't like. We don't like human nature. We don't like human nature. But is there something to,

to like, hey, I don't like, I'm, I'm disconnected from other people's shit. Absolutely. There's something to that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Something to that. You especially see it in public housing. Yeah. Your example of public housing for sure.

Oh, yeah, so this is what you want. The government's paying all the, you know, it's making things equitable. And then like, nobody takes care of their shit. Yeah. Then you go, all the landlord doesn't take care of shit. You're going. But why is people, why are people pissing in the elevator? Yeah, why are people pissing in the elevator, though?

which I've, you know, I've had friends who lived in those buildings and you go and these people pissing the elevator and the stairwell. Yeah, or how about when people let their dogs go in the bathroom, in the hallway? They won't even take their dog out. They just let the dog go in. Right in the hallway. Yeah, yeah. What's that?

What is that? What's the deal with that? Now, on small levels, there's some, you can have some success with that. You know, you have a co-op board, a nice co-op board. everyone there is like-minded everyone there socioeconomic status a little higher that's the thing

I don't make the rules I just notice I just notice certain things that if everyone's got a common goal and it's small you can do but there's still some infighting that'll happen there

oh you left your fucking you know my brother lives in a co-op and his next door neighbor you know was putting a foot mat out front in front of her door, right? And he just fucking hated the foot mat next to his door. Why? Because of the aesthetics of it.

He didn't like the way it looked. He thought it was trashy. It was covering part of the beautiful mosaic floor. It's a beautiful building. So what did he do? He went out there one night and he fucking took it. And then she put another one down and guess what? He fucking took that one.

till she got the message and there's no more fucking foot rogues. There's no more fucking foot rogues. So even then, you're going to run into some problems. But it's very manageable when you have a, you know, cooperation, a co-op board, you know, people living in the building, they all share. Smaller examples of it are possible. But once you start scaling up, the disconnection gets more and more and more and more. Because when you're in a co-op and you own the, what is it, the walls or whatever, the co-op

that you own the space or whatever, you still feel some ownership. You're connected to some ownership. But when it gets to the level of a polis, meaning a city or a town or, you know, the higher you scale up, the more of the disconnection, just with numbers, too.

Same thing with deaths. Four million people died. You're like, big whoop. Oh, my God, this girl was hit by a bus that I knew. It's totally different. So this is kind of scaled up when you see them attack the city and they attack cars.

I don't know. These are questions I'm asking because I haven't fully thought them out and a lot of the conclusions that you may have thought I drew from this were just kind of off the head here. I didn't think about this beforehand at all, which is typical how this podcast is done.

But it is an interesting phenomenon that bears some inquiry into. It's like it made me curious. It made me curious. I also know I wouldn't do it. I would never do it. Even when I was younger and kids got wild around me, I never felt like I wanted to engage in destructive behavior.

Why is that? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe some of it has to deal with the level of thinking you put into it, the level of long-term consequence thinking you could do, how maybe those people tend to be a little bit more successful and have more of a trajectory, more of longevity. and it's just the level

because like I have proved, there is some thinking going in because you're not, like I said, not to repeat myself a hundred times, but you're not fucking smashing your own iPhone. So there is some consciousness there. There is some reasoning happening there and that reasoning is very fucking me versus you.

But it's not the level of, oh, well, this is bad. And maybe people who are just a little bit more, Don't do this. Think of just a little bit more. It's not that they're thinking unselfishly, they're thinking selfishly in a, with more of a helicopter view. Pulled out. Right. Wide shot. You're going, oh, what would this actually do? There's a chance I get arrested. What is actually the point? It's probably fun to jump on the hood of a fucking cab. It might be fun, I guess, to feel it cave in. I don't know. What worries me is that there's, always been this type of behavior, but now we have an incentive structure

behind it, right? So that's what worries me. It used to be that you could do this, but you would do this relatively anonymously. You wouldn't, you would not be known in any way. It would not be seen. There would be nothing you could gain from it, right? Besides the fact that you're destroying somebody else's shit and you're getting some thrill out of the feeling of it and it's not yours.

Now, there's videos everywhere. So now everyone's starring in it. So they're throwing up their camera going, I want to get some this. I want to, you know, I only film this person. Oh, I see a celebrity here. What? Fuck you.

Fuck you. Right. Fuck you. Fuck you. It's incentivized because you can throw it up. You can be seen. You can gain from it in some sort of way. And there's an incentive structure inhabited, inhabited,

inhabited, but in the computer. It was, you know, I'm trying to say in the internet. You know, when you're trying to think ahead, and edge speak at the same time, it's not the right way to phrase it, but I was close. I was in the ballpark. There is an incentive structure on the internet.

Monetize that bitch. To be seen, to gain some visibility from your antics. And it's available to everyone, right? So I would doubt, I would highly doubt, that that egg that was thrown at Wembe didn't have also a camera up from his friend or him at the same time to be able to show people his work. So that's what's troublesome because now we have this other, you know,

we have this new motivation that no people have never had before. And that's fame, recognition. And like you said, there is, It is towards a career monetization being known, whatever it is. In these people's minds, I think there's a level of that. Everyone obviously would want that first choice. Everyone's first choice, especially in a certain age bracket, would be like fame, you know, content fame, some type of, let me, it seems easier.

It seems. And then you see these other people in the way they get famous, some of them. You go, I can do that because who can't be obnoxious? who can't harass? What talent does it take to be obnoxious or harass? What talent does it take to ride on someone's coaltails who's more famous than you and get a reaction from them?

Who can't do that? So it's very accessible. And to a certain extent, dipshits and scum always did that because that's what they are. They're dipshits and scum. They're mostly scum. They don't necessarily know their scum because they're in a bubble of scum.

You know what I'm saying? When everyone you talk to or relate to or your community is all scum, you just root each other on and you're in a bubble of scum. You're in a bubble bath of scum. So you don't know you're a scum, right? Because you're being cheered on by other scum. So for the first time you feel like you're not scum. But the reality is you're scum.

And eventually that will be revealed. Eventually that's revealed to you. And that's an existentialist crisis you have and mean. and what your life's about, you know, because you, every, the ego has this way of convincing you that you're doing something worthwhile, or that people care, or that you're important, or brave or courageous.

But it will hit you. That moment's very uncomfortable because you think about all the waste of time, you think about that you're actually the opposite of what you thought. You're not courageous. You're actually a fucking, you know, absolute pussy. There's no vulnerability to what you're. what you're doing and strength only comes in vulnerability.

Otherwise, what's the point? How do you define strength without vulnerability? I mean, what are you being strong about? You're being, you know, what is the, if there's no vulnerability, it's like having light without dark. There's no light without dark. You need vulnerability in order to have something to protect

and have something to overcome, have something to, you know, to achieve, to build on. you know to assert that's real so i don't know how much more that amplifies this going forward i'm sure it will i'm sure it'll get uglier i'm sure we haven't seen and i'm sure in the same breath i'm sure we're about to see something very bad right it doesn't take a profit it don't take a profit it don't take the most genial social science. You don't need Marshall McLuhan to step forward and go,

something really bad is going to happen, you know, housed in this sort of troll environment, incentivized culture, this troll incentivized culture that the internet has created that has bled out into real life of people, camera. I mean, you know, they beat the Spurs fan up and there was like a hundred cameras. It's like a fucking Star Wars movie.

It's like so many angles. You could cut it together and make it into like an action scene. And why do they all have their cameras up? Like, right? Like what, think about why is the camera up for them to watch it alone and reflect on it later? They want to post it. They want you to see it exactly. the way that you saw it for whatever reason because any attention is better than no attention

and any psychologist can tell you that any psychologist will tell you that humans for whatever reason will always choose a known hell to an unknown heaven the more familiar is what we prefer right? So if you have an abusive parent, it's not a mystery that you go for a guy who is in a discipline when there's nothing to be disciplined

reasonably about. And you stay. That doesn't fall out of the sky. Right? There's reasons why people repeat behavior because it's comfortable, it's known, you know? and so they just do it.

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