Yannis Pappas Hour - Green Bay is Communist? with Olivia Harlan Dekker

Episode Date: November 11, 2021

Yanni sits down with his co-host Olivia Harlan Dekker from his sports show for BetMGM called Unleashed. They talk her granddad, former CEO of the Packers Bob Harlan, her dad famed sports announcer Kevin Harlan and being the wife of NBA player and former Wisconsin great Sam Dekker. OHD & Yanni talk working as a female sports reporter in television and working for ESPN. Also, Twitter trolls and how the media is all about drama these days—even in sports. At the end, she makes a big announcement that confuses Yanni where she breaks some massive news!LongDays is now officially going twice a week. Every Saturday & Thursday. One weekly solo pod & a chat pod. Enjoy you hyenas! The show goes out every Saturday night & Thursday to youtube and podcast audio platforms but while it's being recorded the show goes LIVE on Yannis' Instagram on Wednesdays. Come join in on the LONG DAY & Follow Yannis PappasInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/yannispappas/Twitter - https://twitter.com/yannispappas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up everybody? Welcome to another episode of Long Days. Here we are. We have my favorite guest of all time. It cannot get better than OHD, Olivia Harland-Decker, my co-host. We have a show on BetMGM, which is a gambling network. It is. You got to do your cross from your gambling network. Yeah, it's totally cool. No, you need to whisper it.

It's a gambling network. In this state, I don't know if you can say it. Can you mute that? Because it's not legal. It's funny when people are like, where can we watch your show? You're like, move to New Jersey? Yeah. And you can watch it.

No, you can get it everywhere. It's a podcast. And it's just not legal to gamble everywhere. It's not, but it will be. It will be. Yeah. If we have something to do with it, it will be. We're out there spreading the word of gambling.

No, it's a sports podcast. She's a sports journalist. Yeah. Comes from a line of sports people. Yeah, sports people. Your grandfather is a sports person. Yeah. Comes from a line of sports people. Yeah, sports people. Your grandfather is a sports person. He is.

He was a very important sports person. Yeah. He's, he's, he's, esteemed. Yeah.

In the Green Bay area, he's esteemed. Which is really hard to do. Have you been to Green Bay? It's lofty. What is Green Bay? Is Green Bay Wisconsin? It is.

Okay. You knew that. You know, I know a lot of things, but I don't pay attention to that area. Okay. I just see cheeseheads. I know Brett Favre showed his dick to a cheerleader that he shouldn't have done. I know he takes painkillers, and I know now he sells socks. That's all I know about Brett Favre.

Oh, and he also sells some sleeve that you put on when you're old to throw a football. The Copperfit. Copperfit, yeah. I have the socks. Do you have them? Oh, they're incredible for long flights. Can't recommend it enough. Is that what they're for? They're compression socks, yeah. Do you have bad circulation? I think everyone does on a long flight. That's why my feet go numb. Your ankles

get puffy, yeah. Or after heels, like a night out in heels, I'll come back. It's super sexy. You really disrobe all the glitz and glamour you just had going on, put on the Copperfit socks. That's when things get popping. But truly, when your feet get swollen from wearing high heels all night, that's what you got to do. You put on Copperfits. Yeah, and I know you have that problem. Yeah, your husband must love those.

Yeah, the retainer, the mask. Oh, yeah. You know, I've done a couple TV shows, and the makeup room is always funny how different it is for guys and girls. Oh, yeah. Like on my old show on Fusion, me and Pedro, we were co-hosts, we'd go in, it would be like 30 seconds. I hate makeup, so I used to hide. I bet Pedro would wear a little

makeup. He put a little bit more than me. Yeah. He's a little bit, he was a little, he put a little bit more than me. He's a beautiful man. He's a beautiful man. But I would hide from the makeup lady. I would like, because we were a live show. So I hated it because it would burn my eyes and I just didn't want to wear makeup.

So I would hide. So weak. I'd pretend like I was taking a long dump and then I'd run out, and it was like a running thing that they'd catch me in the hallway and throw something on. But then Mariana, my other co-host, she would come in like, and this is why I'm asking you, because you're a woman, you've been in TV and everything. She would come in the morning before.

She'd come in like 2 a.m. Yeah. And we'd come in at 5 a.m. And like we'd come in at 5am and she'd still be in the hair phase. And they put hair on. They'd be adding hair to her hair. So whenever you see a woman on TV there's like fake hair there.

Oh yeah. Almost more times than not you can. Now this is all real. In fact I just chopped three inches off. I have a bob. This is a short bob. What's a bob? A bob? Yeah. Like a short this is not have a bob. This is a short bob. What's a bob? A bob? Yeah. Like a short, this is not really a bob. Okay. But to me, this feels very light.

But no, it's such a process. I've sat in so many makeup chairs, and I end up, I bring my own makeup, and I will go to the bathroom, and I'll kind of do my own. I trust my own hand. You're a little bit of a control freak. I trust my own hand. You're a little bit of a control freak. No, I just, I've been on camera since I was 14, 15, as you've seen.

Yes. And I did the whole pageant circuit. So like, you learn how to do makeup. And I just feel like I like my own makeup the best. Yeah, I would actually love to show that clip at some point if we can. Oh, ouch. It's her. We went on our show and we showed our first forays into our fields. So we showed my first set on our show.

And we showed Olivia's first on-air segment. I guess it was for your middle school. I thought when you watch it, you feel like you're watching someone who's at least 30 talking about cupcakes outside of a store. And then she told us she's 15 years old. 15. So are you like Morgan Freeman? Were you born 40?

Yes. Yeah. Because you report that like a... It was your... I thought I was watching Barbara Walters. Your presence was like

that of an older person. If you had told me at that point I was channeling Barbara Walters I would have been so excited. That is one of my idols, Baba Wala. And I read her book. I read Don Lemon's book. I loved, and at that point, Don Lemon was kind of early in the game. I just, I loved journalists. And I really wanted to go into news before sports because my whole family

was in sports, as you mentioned. And I was, believe it or not, a very, very smart kid, like really good at school. I could see that. I swear I get dumber by the day now. Well, because you're pegging around me. That's a problem. You're killing brain cells every minute. No, I do. I say to my husband all the time, I used to be really smart. And now I feel like I just catch myself just saying dumb things a lot. I don't know this, the highlights, see, this isn't all real. So it's the highlights are seeping through. But yeah, so I, I just was like, man, I'm smarter than sports, you know, like I'm gonna do news. And I would tell my parents, I want to be in Syria doing a report

with bullets flying over my head. And I want to be like in-torn countries and that's what I wanted to do and I did an internship at a news station. You would blend in just fine in Afghanistan. You'd be able to get the report straight from the Taliban. They wouldn't know

I was a foreigner. Yeah. Hey, guys. Ali Akbar? I'm just an undercover... Yeah, you'd be able to yeah your father was probably like I can't do his voice your father's Kevin Harlow

he is one of my favorite announcers and I know when I said that you thought I was probably just blowing smoke I don't I love him because I'm a big basketball fan I didn't even know he did football but he does and now I've heard him on fan. I didn't even know he did football, but he does. And now I've heard him on football games. Now that I've, you know, I've got to watch every football game now because of my show.

And I've heard him on football, but like I know him from TNT. Yeah. I know him from, he calls a damn good game. Where he's gotten more traction and he's the voice of that NBA 2K game. So like NBA players now have been playing this video game where he's the voice since they were 10. Yeah. And that's how they know him.

That's trippy. And then he calls their real game. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like you work so hard. And I was telling you last night that the NFL is really what he wants to be remembered for

and go out on. He just loves the NFL. But we're like, I don't know if you can walk away from your bread and butter here because that's kind of your main gig, whether you like it or not. Yeah, sometimes. What is it? Life happens when you're making other plans. Yeah.

Is that what they say? That's what John Lennon said, I think, right? Is that what John Lennon said? Yeah, life happens when you're making... I think life happens when you're waiting for your phone to charge. That is true. That is true. Those are the moments you live.

But it's still, that's still a pretty good gig to do basketball. And your grandfather, just because we didn't mention it because we're just flowing, but your grandfather was the CEO of the Packers. Yes. What does that mean? Okay, I'm glad you asked that. So there are 30 NFL teams and, oh wait, are there 32 or 30?

You better know this, OHD. I always miss this out. 32 NFL teams. We can cut that part. I want to cut that part. It's 32 or 30. I don't even remember how many states there are. 32, okay.

They're always changing it. Did they add Hawaii to football? There's 32 teams. There are 32 teams in the NFL and the Green Bay Packers. We should get rid of one. We don't need the Jets. It's like,

I don't know. Although they won, but we don't. Yeah. With Mike White, the Mike White game. And my dad had that game, but we weren't watching it.

We were busy. We were running around New York. Yeah, we were drinking. So there are 32 NFL teams and the Packers are the only one with no owner, which is wild. And that's why, see,

we're so proud of that. Like, it's so cool that it's owned by the city. Taxpayer money pays for the team. Wait a second. only one with no owner, which is wild. And that's why, see, we're so proud of that. It's so cool that it's owned by the city. Taxpayer money pays for the team. Wait a second. I didn't know Wisconsin was communist. The team is owned by the people?

Yeah. So how does anything get done? Like by town meeting? Just a bunch of cheese heads standing up? I want more cheese curds on my pizza. It's funny you say that. They have a shareholders meeting, and it's a lot of pageantry but you can buy stock. So a lot of people buy stock

and they frame it in their house. It doesn't mean much but don't tell that to these people because they'll wear owner. Because they live in Wisconsin and they have very little else. It's like one of their main sources of pride. I'm taking you to a Packer game

so you can see how great it is. I'm going to go. But before I go, do I have to get really, really fat just to blend in? Yeah. I mean, you have to just come with an appetite. Come with an appetite. I'll say that.

Come with an appetite. Because isn't it cheese curds you guys eat? We eat the cheese curds. And that's like illegal in some states. It should be. Did you know that? Yeah. It should be.

They have it in Montreal too. I think that's what they put on poutine. Yeah. Yeah, similar. And it's only legal in certain places because that's how potent it is. I think it's like, what is it? Like cheese shit? Just fried cheddar. It's fried cheddar? That's it? Yeah. Yeah, similar. And it's only legal in certain places because that's how potent it is. I think it's like, what is it, like cheese shit? Just fried cheddar.

It's fried cheddar, that's it? Yeah. So it can't be mozzarella because then that's a mozzarella stick. Or as you say, mozzarella. Mozzarella stick. Is that a mozzarella stick? And you can dip it, I like when it comes with like a ground mustard dip. That's really good. Sometimes it comes with marinara, which I

am not a fan of. Right. Ranch is typical. Right, right. It's just more dairy to put on it. More dairy on dairy. Yep. Yeah. But no, so the Packers.

That's American, baby. The Packers, they're so proud to be shareholders, these fans. So they'll have a shareholders meeting inside the bowl of Lambeau. So one day a year, all these people, they tailgate for it. I mean, it's a big deal. So it's a very proud community. But they have a president and CEO in place of an owner. And that was my grandpa. So it's an elected position instead of buying a team, which I always thought was cool. Very cool. So the people elected him.

The board. So he served on the board, the executive board, and then they pick the president. Okay. So it's like any other company, but it's public. Yeah. And so there's a board, and then they select it. So they tailgate the meeting. Not the board. Not the board, but the shareholders. The shareholders. So like 18,000 people show up.

Yeah, something like that. And they're the shareholders. Yeah. And they tailgate that, and then they go to a meeting about decisions about the team. Hammered. They basically, they don't make decisions. Then the president, my grandpa, now Mark Murphy is the president of the Packers, they'll run through financials.

They'll run through structural changes. They'll run through team changes, draft. It's cool. Again, it's a lot of pageantry. It's a lot of being proud of the team. When you say pageantry, is that just a politically correct way of saying we just make the people feel like they're involved,

but we just let them get drunk and yell shit, and we're like, okay, you guys, we'll make those decisions, and then you put a cheese head on them and kick them out, and then the adults handle it? I think that's what I'm picking up on pageantry. Yeah, that's what you said.

It's pageantry. It's pageantry. No, it's what you said. It's pageantry. It's pageantry. No, it's just special. We all own the team, guys. And everyone gets to be involved, and everyone feels like they were at the shareholders meeting. Emphasize everyone feels like they were part of it. It's darling. It really is darling.

Hey, my name's Steve. I'm from Waukesha. Yeah, I'm a shareholder of the team. Here's the deal. Brett Favre has got it. We got to play. Can we do more play options, please? Thank you.

Can I get some more cheese curds? I don't endorse this. Yeah, I know. I know. This show for you is, yeah, you may have to do a podcast forever after this yeah geez I'll listen to you and laugh at you you got it down good

as long as you let it come out of my mouth we do this a lot on our show she just listens to me and she goes she laughs or shakes her head no one knows if I agree that's the way to do it but that is a nice pedigree that is a nice pedigree for you

but you didn't play sports you did not That's the way to do it. But that is a nice pedigree. Yeah. That is a nice pedigree for you. Yeah, yeah. But you didn't play sports. No. You did not. I mean, I did. Literally, I was in the Fun Girls Basketball League, which sounds a lot more risque than it should have at eight years old. But no, I was a horrible athlete.

What is the Fun Girls Basketball League? Just like it sounds. Just like it doesn't matter who won. Yeah, it was just like a kid's basketball league for girls. But I'd wear bows in my hair, and I once scored on the wrong basket. Ooh. Yeah. Don't tell my husband.

I don't think he knows that. Yeah. Wouldn't have married me. I'm not a breeder. I'm tall. You're tall. Yeah. Your kids is a good chance, if they they're straight that they'll play basketball. Well, no, I mean, you know.

No, you don't have to be straight to play basketball. No, you don't have to be straight to play basketball anymore, no. Your husband is a basketball player. He is. He's a professional basketball player. He is. You know, what's crazy is he was my favorite player before I even met you. See, now I'm lying.

Now I'm lying, yes. Now I'm lying. Yes. Now I'm lying. I was rooting for Duke. I'm sorry. I was rooting for Duke. You know what's funny about that, too? So that was 2015. They played in the national championship,

Wisconsin against Duke. And I was working on an ACC show in Atlanta. Didn't know my husband yet. You know, we didn't meet for a couple years after that. And I found a clip of, like, the day of the game. And I'm saying all these reasons why Duke's gonna win and like go Duke and all this stuff and my future

husband's playing in that game and it's just life changing when you win a national championship that's that's life changing like truly and I didn't realize how much that bothered him like until later and we'll be in the airport sometimes and people come up and be like,

go Blue Devils! And he's just like, motherfucker. It's painful. It kind of doesn't matter what you do after that. It's like, people know if you're a national champion. Oh, yeah. And college, all the pro athletes, you can tell their allegiances to their alma mater.

Always. Because that's when they cared. That's when they really cared. That's when they weren't playing for the money. We have guests all the time on our show, and we ask them about that. It's like, when was truly the most fun you had playing your sport? It's always college.

College. So it does mean a lot. That's actually pretty funny, that you were rooting for the Blue Devils. Yeah, it was better for our show. And at the end of the day, I'm all about clicks. You're all about clicks. So whatever it is, sorry. But Sam Decker is your husband.

He is. He was on Wisconsin. Allegedly. Allegedly your husband. There's no proof. I haven't seen a marriage certificate yet. I've only seen his comments for me to keep my hands off his wife. Yes, yes, he comments that.

Yeah, he's like, stay away from my wife. And then like random, this is like a Wisconsin hate show. i do not mean random people from like nina wisconsin being like yeah yeah yeah you tell him sam you tell him sam um and then he also one time bet mgm tweeted it was really funny but mgm tweeted like who would uh which celebrity could you beat up in a boxing match yeah and he was like i'll beat the the shit out of Giannis Pappas. And I tweeted back. I said, listen, Sam, I will box the hell out of your generals. Because he's 6'9".

So if we fought, I'd be right at his dick. And I bite. I'm a biter. So I don't know what kind of rules. I hate picturing this whole thing. I'm just saying, depending on the rule set, if it was a straight boxing match, I'd give the advantage to him.

Okay. If it was jail rules, I'm going to win because I'm going to bite, and I'm going to bite his dick hard and twist, or I'm going to yank and twist. I'm going to just, I'm focusing on his genitals, and I'm taking him out. If the fight took place in this shamrock of a studio,

shim-sham of a studio, I feel like you'd be jumping. What are you talking about? We're at Fox Studios right now. Look how beautiful this is. Yeah, we're in my old apartment, which clearly needs a little bit of a renovation. I think we have some water damage behind our producer, Jesse, and my bathroom has no...

I can't have female guests on the show anymore without a renovation. We've had one other female guest. Yeah. And every time I got to warn them about the bathroom, I'm like, there's no mirror. It fell out. It's not bad. It's not that bad.

And I think you like to think I'm fancier than I am. Like, I can get down right before we started recording. I do anything for clicks. No, I was telling you, we were just talking about early in our careers, which I think a lot of parallels actually. And it's cool. And I'm actually kind of fascinated

of anyone who's made it in their industry and not saying I have, but the way I started to now, we were saying life's pretty comfortable now. Like when you're that hungry early in your career and you will just do anything, you'll drive through the night, you'll work for no money, you'll all that. And I was telling you, I would just have a bunch of these nice blazers hanging up in my little Jeep

and I'd change in the back of my car. I'd do my makeup in a gas station bathroom. I mean, the amount of places I've put makeup on has not always been in a makeup chair, like your fancy studio show. But it is. You ever throw makeup on in like a gas station oh yeah yeah oh yeah you should see the looks when you go in looking busted you come out looking nice smoke machine yeah it's like that scene in uh breakfast club where ali sheedy comes out and you know she she gets made up by uh you know breakfast club

yeah my ring wall yeah yeah no you, you've come up the ranks. Yeah. You've come up the ranks. I had a really quick start, though. Like, my start in the industry was pretty unprecedented. Did your family, did the family help you? Well, obviously. What's the name?

Yeah, it was obviously that. Yeah. No reel, no audition, nothing like that. Just people picking up the phone and calling. And, yeah, everyone should just have famous parents. That's what they should do. But it helps a little bit. That's my career advice, kids. Does it help a little? just have famous parents. That's what they should do. But it helps a little bit. That's my career advice, kids.

Does it help a little? You know, no. There's no shame in it. No, I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this. In fact, if anything, now I feel like it gets brought up more. And I have a different last name now. No, I keep both.

You probably noticed. I love the OHD. I know you do. I'm like pushing that into branding. I know. I always call her OHD. I know you do. I'm like pushing that into branding. I know. I always call her OHD. I need a logo. Yeah.

OHD is a kind of like it's a fun acronym. No. So my first job, I was out of University of Georgia. I was graduating a semester early. How much drinking did you do at Georgia? It was hefty. Yeah. Yeah.

I can imagine. I was a pro. I know. You're the type. You throw the blazer on. You walk around with a book on your head because you told us before we started. You was a pro. I know you, you, you're the type, you throw the blazer on, you walk around with a book on your head because you, you, you told us before we started, you love Jackie Kennedy. You used to walk around with a book on your head. You're an achiever. You work hard. Yeah. But I, you're a girl who went to Georgia. So I think when the cameras are off and someone slides a vodka

tonic in front of you, I think you know how to, I think you know how to shake your tail feather. I can shake my tail feather. But we called it, see now kids are doing the, what is it, the WAP? The WAP is old. It's definitely not that. It's not. Well, it's that without the fat jingle. No, I mean like Georgia was so fun.

Like all my girlfriends were bartenders all my guy friends were the doormen I once had my little brother was like a freshman in high school

he came to visit me and they said just give us something like we just need a show on the cameras he had his library card I mean it was

it was lawless it was so I don't know what it's like now but it was so fun like highly recommend going to a big state school and going to the SEC that's like now but it was so fun like highly recommend going to a big state school and going to the SEC

that's what I brought up because I know Georgia's a party school it is Georgia Florida yeah Florida's is Florida

and that's is that where the list ends just the two I think it's those two biggest well no Penn State has a reputation for being a party school

yeah yeah no the whole Big Ten the whole I don't know Pac-12 so much. They're too smart. Were you a cheerleader in high school or college? In high school. Not college.

Yeah. High school. Yeah. But you were not a mean girl cheerleader. No. I told you. I was a woman of the people. I was really more of a choir nerd, musical theater nerd.

Right. I feel like that was more my people. You were a theater gig. Yeah, I was. I feel like that was more my people. You were a theater gig. Yeah, I was. I watched you kick a field goal, which was very impressive.

You got it through the uprights. Yeah, dead center, if I remember correctly. Exactly, yeah. I mean, don't mean to brag. Jesus, yeah. I mean, no net. It was right. No, it was really, that was impressive.

I've watched you sing the national anthem. I love singing the national anthem. Yeah. So you were a theater geek. Mm-hmm. And you can sing. Yeah. And I feel like that kind of goes into what I do now. I mean, it's performing on camera and voice work, right?

Yeah. Voice is important. Yeah. Yeah. It's very important. As you said that, your voice really channeled something. Yeah. I don't know what you just did. Well, we grew up... It's funny because you don't know it.

You don't know it until you do TV. You don't know how much goes in to being on camera. When I was doing TV, which TV doesn't mean what it used to mean, but when I was doing TV, because everything's kind of undressed now with the internet. But when I did that TV show, I realized that when you're on camera, any slight move is exaggerated by a million. Yeah. So you're in this little screen, and it's like if you see me in real life and we're

talking and I do this, your mind wouldn't even pick it up. Your up your mind doesn't pick it up or if I did this you wouldn't even think about it but when you're on camera and if you do this if like we're in the middle of the segment I'm on set and we have a guest and I just do this people people like is he on crack it's like you can't you have I would be I remember we'd be like we'd have a guest on we'd be in the middle of the segment and I'd have this itch on my nose, and I would just leave it. Because you can't itch. That's so painful. Then your eyes start watering.

And guys with beards, you guys do that a lot. Yeah, but you can't do it. On camera, you have to stay stiff, and you have to present, and you have to perform even when you're not saying anything, just knowing that you're on camera. And then the voice is a big part, especially of being like a reporter or especially a sports announcer. Your dad, you told me he like affects his voice.

The voice is so huge. It's huge. And you always think like that's just their natural voice, but your dad plays it up a little bit, you said. Well, it's when he's on TV. He doesn't go home and say, kids, time for dinner. No, but when a new boyfriend comes around,

I notice the voice comes out. And the gun too, probably. I'm one of four, no gun. There's no gun. No, but when a new boyfriend comes around, I notice the voice comes out. And the gun too, probably. I'm one of four, no gun. There's no gun. No gun? No. Wisconsin, you guys know Carrie? Grew up in Kansas City.

Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. But a new boyfriend would come around, he'd say, hi, Kevin Harlan, nice to meet you. And we're like. He got formal with him. Mm-hmm.

Like, woo. Yeah. Look out. Yeah. Yeah. We grew up with Marv Albert. So Marv Albert was like, and then Boston has-

And their voices are kind of similar. A lot of people think that, yeah. Sometimes I'll be listening. I can pick it up pretty quick, but they're not far off

if you're just barely listening to a game. Your dad's a little bit more, he's a little bit more fast paced. Yeah. It's like Marv Albert on Adderall.

Yeah. A little bit more. And Marv Albert. It's like Marv Albert on Adderall. Yeah. A little bit more. And Marv Albert without the biting the prostitutes, probably. That's when, I mean... See, I'm not saying anything. Yeah, but I'm just saying, Marv Albert did bite a few prostitutes. If you say so.

It's in the news. And that was back when you could do that and you could make a comeback from that. Those were the days where you could just bite a prostitute the whole media could see the bite marks on her body and then you just readjust your toupee and go out there for the fucking sunday night game with wall frazier i mean those were the days born in the wrong era yeah i mean he just i mean i've you know i'll never have that problem but i mean those were the days where you could come back from that.

He got grandfathered. He must be looking, he must be like, thank God I missed the Me Too era. Because I mean, but isn't it funny? Like some guys get fired over tweets and stuff. Marv Albert retired with grace. He read, this is my last game. And everyone was like tearing up. And New York was going, that's the voice of a generation.

And some poor prostitute was going like I'm missing a nipple because of this guy. I'm sorry. I'm just saying. I'm not saying anything that's not in the press. Officially this is coming

from the honest papers. You made me laugh a lot. That might have been it. That might have been it. Oh my God, that was good. Yeah, so I mean forgive me for

I have a sentimental attachment to Marv Albert because I grew up watching those Knicks games on black and white TVs the Trent Tucker days Rory Sparrow etc but you know what forgive me if I prefer Kevin Harlan because he doesn't bite prostitutes he's a

family man he is a family man god damn it he's super clean cut too and uh i don't know like in all seriousness watching him at work as a kid and then watching my grandpa at work as a kid like everyone always asks well surely you got into this because of them and as i mentioned i was really wanting to get into news and um because i was too smart for sports obviously like too much in the cranium and i thought thought, sports? How easy. But you have to know.

You have to be smart. That's another thing people don't know. It's like you have to do a lot of research. A lot of research. A lot of research. Yeah. And football's not easy. And as a woman, they'll really call you out if you mess something up.

Right. Really well. Because a lot of bigots don't want you there anyway. Yeah. Yeah. And why would they? Yeah, well, I don't understand that. Taking up space.

I'm just taking up space. Yeah, but we talked about that on our show, and I don't get that. I don't get that. Even my wife, and I don't want to throw her under the bus a little bit, but whenever there's a woman reporter, she's like, why is there a woman reporter? I'm like- Oh, God. Yeah, I'm like, Britt, you're a woman.

I need to talk with her. Yeah, you need to talk with her. Yeah. She's changed her tune. Okay. But- No, I get you, because my family too,, you're a woman. I need to talk with her. Yeah, you need to talk with her. She's changed her tune. Okay. But. No, I get you because my family too, and we're mostly women. I'm one of three girls and my mom and we watch a lot of sports in our house.

And it's horrible. You'll catch yourself doing it and I'll say, stop it. That's not nice because I'm. No, when you see a woman on TV, you'll say, boy, her hair looks awful. Or gosh, she looks tired. Or her makeup's. Boy, is that the best outfit they could put her in? We say it.

We never say it about men. We never say it about men. Women do that. Men do it too. Do they? They'll say, woof. Like, no, I'll be at a bar and I'll hear my brother-in-law, my friend, my guy friends. I'll hear them be like, or the alternative.

And they'll be like, whoa, check out those. That's what I hear. Yeah. That's what I hear. And I'm like, or we could turn up the volume and listen to her report, because she worked really hard on it. Yes. Yes.

Yeah. I mean, guys seem to respect Doris Burke. Guys love Doris Burke. I don't know why guys, Doris Burke gets a pass. And I don't know. She's a goat. She's great. I like Doris Burke, but she's great, but there's a pass. And I don't know. She's a goat. She's great. I like Doris, but she's great, but there's a lot of other great reporters.

Yeah. O.H.D., Erin Andrews, right? Okay. Are we just throwing out names now? Katie Nolan. I'm trying to think of who else. Laura Rutledge. Laura Rutledge.

I love it. Yeah. I don't understand. We talked about it on the show, but we should talk about it here. I love it yeah I don't understand we talked about it on the show but we should talk about it here I love it I don't understand why guys have a problem with like

isn't that cool that women know about sports isn't that the dream to like hang out with your wife or your girl and like watch the game that's like the best

possible scenario obviously networks are doing it to get women more interested in sports I'm just being you know because like

52% you think I think there's a little being, you know, because it's like 52%. I think there's a little bit of that. Also, I think it's because guys like looking at women. That's a tough one. Like, I don't know what the network's motive is. I'm sure it's pure. Whatever it is, I'm sure it's very pure, and it

has nothing to do with thinking about demographics. Well, okay, demographics are huge, but I think that— I mean, that's 52% of the population that could tap into it. And when I was at ESPN, it was always a thing that, especially with college football, because if you went to a college, male or female, you're a fan of that team, right? So why are we just so trying to cater to our male audience? And the average football fan is a southerner male in their 50s.

Like statistically, that is the college football fan. Overweight. Maybe. I don't know. I didn't weigh them. It's America. I just ran the test. Yeah, it's America.

But then we found out that really a lot of women, especially with college football, kind of more than NFL, I think, really watch college football. And so then we said, let's make our stories also just appealing to anyone. So when I was conducting a story, when I was getting ready for a college football game, I would think of my mom, who's a college football fan, an NFL fan. She knows football, but she also just really likes the game and wants to hear more about the players.

So I'd be like, man, this kid, he grew up in an orphanage. He was adopted by this family. His brother had cancer. Whatever is the hardship that led to the moment. 13 assault charges. God, stop. Drinking on campus. Sorry. There are so many. It's Sean Watson. I'm sorry. 22 alleged active cases. Alleged. Well, I guess it's active cases of allegations. Once you get to 22, you could assume maybe at least seven are maybe true.

And that's probably seven too many. Seven too many? Yeah. 22. Is he on the field? No, but the Texans kept him past the deadline. They did, yeah. So they could have gotten rid of him,

and they kind of just want to play with their food a little bit and see what happens. Because really, if... Play with their food. I'm serious. It's going to depend on the legal action that takes place now. Right, right, right. But they don't want to get rid of him.

He's a great player. He's a great player, yeah. So did that sum that up? It summed that up real nice. Yeah, when you have a little... Yeah, there's a little bit more motivation to sweep it under the rug. It's just hard to sweep 22. I bet you they went into a meeting with him,

and they're like, DeSean, okay, we have a few brooms. We don't have 22 brooms. We have a rug, we got brooms. But we don't have 22 brooms. It's hard to swipe 22 under the rug. It is. Yeah, we can swipe one or two.

So they've got to hope that these all go away. Yes. So that is a good point. That's a fair point. So you're saying that there were already a lot, especially with college football, and that's true. Because, you know, I'm biased because I'm from New York. We don't have, like, a college.

Right, yeah. You Northeasterners, you're not into college football. We don't. What do we have? Like, St. John's. We've got, like, Rutgers. We've got, like, Wagner. We don't have any, like, we're dominated by pro sports in New York.

Yeah, but Giannis, I know you spent time in the South. Just last week we had Larry Olmsted, the author of Fans, Why Sports Makes You Happier, Healthier, and More Understanding. He said if you go into the Alabama bookstore,

you can buy an Alabama coffin. Like, that's what we're dealing with here. Yes, you're right. It truly is. Even growing up in the Midwest in Kansas City, like the Jayhawks

were into college basketball, really into college basketball. We're not really into college football. I got to be honest. I didn't grow up a huge diehard college football fan. I grew up an NFL fan. I go to the South. I go to UGA.

We are really good. And I was like, whoa, these people are diehard. And their grandfather's at this tailgate. And their aunts and uncles all went here. And their kids are, I mean, whoa. Yes. And a good friend of mine is Nate Bargatze, who's a Southern comic, and he's the one who really enlightened me to that because he's from Tennessee Old Hickory.

Yeah. And he wears Vanderbilt. He has a thing where he'll have- That's his team? Vanderbilt's team. He didn't go to school, but like- An unfortunate team to back. Yeah, they don't win a lot, but he's loyal to them.

And he would say it like that, too, loyal. Because he's from the South, and he's a hick. But he's the one that kind of enlightened me to the fact how big college sports are. And he was like the first person I became really good friends with who was from an area that wasn't like Northeast Corridor or the coast where it's more professional. And yeah, I mean, college football is the pro team in a lot of those areas i mean i remember i was in columbus right like ohio state is like that those stadiums are 18 20 000

yeah that's like and they have the browns they're more popular than the browns yeah yeah yeah they uh it's if you think about think about nebraska as well there is no pro team the whole wait a second i haven't done that ever in my life. So let me just try to. Wow. Yeah. Is it there yet? I just like to take a moment when I've never done something to take note.

Wow, I'm thinking about Nebraska. Yeah. They have the University of Nebraska. They have one of the best game day atmospheres. The team's struggling. It has been for the last couple years. But that is their pro team. They don't care about anything else.

In fact, a lot of people from Nebraska, their NFL team is the Packers. Yes. Yeah. I get it. And so families, women, mothers, sisters, daughters are into this, and they were underserved. That's a fair point. I think at some point.

I think at some point they were, but then – So then it started there. You think it started with college and then women started. You started seeing more women reporters. And then it was just, let's make our storytelling interesting to everyone. Right. And let's really storytell.

And that's my favorite part of the business. And I'm not doing sideline reporting now, but that, I mean, that was the best part. But now on a platform like a podcast, that's all I do. Right. And that's wonderful. Right.

Well, that speaks to how the medium's changed a little bit. Yeah. But I'll just tell you from a guy's perspective, I don't understand the complaints. Women, they know their stuff. You guys know your stuff. You guys are sports fans. If you've made it that far, you do. Yeah.

You're sports fans. Being a reporter, you don't have to be a guy. If you're covering guy sports, you don't have to be a guy to be a reporter. I don't understand. Like, why the sexism? Also, would you rather look at Aaron Andrews or would you rather look at Tony Saragusa? I mean, let's be honest. I mean, I'm not into bears.

You know? He's a bear. In the gay community, he'd be called a bear. But I'd like to look at Aaron Andrews. It's a visual medium. It's a visual medium. And kind of at the end of the day, there's a bear. In the gay community, he'd be called a bear. Well, MTV, it's a visual medium. It's a visual medium. And kind of at the end of the day, there's male or female. I mean, you've got to look good. You've got to look good.

And the female reporters often do. They look decent. They look very good. But, you know, so do the guys. Yeah. I mean, you know. But I get it. You're serving a mostly male audience.

It helps if the women are somewhat attractive. Well, I don't think it're serving a mostly male audience. It helps if the women are somewhat attractive. Well, I don't think it's to please our male audience. I think it's just to look good on TV. I really do. I'm sure it's a very pure motivation. But things like, when I would go on air and- I mean, Brad Pitt is Brad Pitt. I mean, let's be honest.

I mean, Brad Pitt- Brad Pitt's not a sideline reporter. No, but I'm just saying on camera. Like, you could pick, who's the guy who was in the movie Sideways with the big jaws? Giamatti. Giamatti. I mean, Giamatti's a decent. Paul Giamatti.

Paul Giamatti's a decent actor. He could be as good an actor as Brad Pitt, but he'll never be like the Bucks off his attraction. Brad Pitt is because Brad Pitt is a handsome guy. Yeah. We want to see handsome people on camera. But like before that's why i have a podcast pre-game before a football game we're on the field two hours before the game so you know we were talking about doing your makeup earlier okay so you're doing that in some holiday inn in tuscaloosa or whatever and then you're

rushing to the game you're on the field you're tracking down coaches asking like what's your field goal target line uh how's the wind affecting the kicking game uh how's the rain gonna affect how aggressive you are with your quarterback so you're you're tracking you're getting information last minute on the field and then okay we're olivia we're coming to you you're gonna do a quick hit for sports center and so we're still an hour before the game okay let me quickly make sure everything's good let me re-powder let me re-gloss and then kind of be like okay yeah, yeah, he set up. Okay, yeah. Okay, and then, you know?

Yeah, it's a lot of work. No one else is doing that. No, it's a lot of work. Yes, it is. And it's a lot of research that a lot of people don't know about. It's a lot of work to look good on TV. I gotta say, that's exhausting.

That is exhausting. But it's also a lot of research you have to do about the sport, especially football. Football, it's very, it's crazy to me that football players are the most stereotyped as being stupid when it's, you have to be the smartest to play football. Football's a very complex sport. So complex.

Yeah. And you have to memorize so many plays. Yeah. And so many options and think on your feet. And if you're reporting on football, there's so many things you got to memorize and players you got to memorize. If you're telling their whole story,

there's a lot of research you got to do. So you have to be a very hard worker and do a lot of research to do reporting. Yeah, and throughout the week, as you're crafting a story, anyone can read a story online and then regurgitate it on air. That's the laziest reporters. You always want to advance it. So you read a story online and then regurgitate it on air that's the laziest reporters

you always want to advance it so you read a great story and you're like oh that's interesting this how this kid grew up and he dealt with this and blah blah okay then call their high school get on the phone call their high school coach ask about that call their guidance counselor at their school i've done that like do leg work find that kid ask their ask their uh sports information director can i grab him on the phone for just a little bit on wednesday do you do all that yeah that's real reporting yeah i like that that's real reporting that's the way reporters used to be now reporters very lazy you don't know that no i'm not saying sports okay sports you have to be the funny thing is that you know what the ironic not ironic but yeah it is kind to be. The funny thing is, you know what the ironic, not ironic, but yeah, it is kind of ironic.

The funny thing is sports reporters are very good because sports fans are very into it. Yeah. And know, and if you can't fuck up, like you said, because like sports fans know when you fuck up or you have a lot of bad takes or whatever. I'm talking about the real media has gotten very lazy and very sensationalist. Yeah. And they don't go out in the field anymore.

They don't do those, they don't add to it. They don't check sources. I mean, even like articles that have been written about comedy. That's also not true.

It is very true. That's such a generalization. No, it is true. Fake news! It's all fake news! No! No, I'm telling you, there's been articles

written about comedy where like, I was in an article. Yeah, I was in an article. Yeah. I was in an article. Well, whatever they said about you was true. It was true, yeah. But I was in an article.

There was an article. My name was in it twice, and nobody called me for a quote. Nobody called me for anything. That's interesting. And then they published it. It was like the New Republic, and they're getting sued now. You're getting sued, not by me, but by somebody else. The reporter is some

fucking kid yeah who wrote it it got published by the new republic they said something about a comedy club owner and um it was like a it ended up being a fake source that was given to him it was some kid posing to be somebody else who was feeding this reporter that does happen yeah and they're suing the new republic now and it's, and my name's in that article. And it's like, nobody contacted me. And I'm being characterized as, I'm reading this. I'm going like, what the fuck is, they call, in one article I'm called right wing media. I'm like, what the fuck?

I'm a liberal kid. I mean, what are you talking about? And I'm a fucking comic. And it's like, and it was Paste Magazine. Nobody gives a shit about it. But still, if you Google my name. That comes up. It's in there downace Magazine nobody gives a shit about it but still if you Google my name that comes up it's in there down low because nobody gives a shit

but I'm still like what do I do? Like who do you how do you fix that? Like I DM Pace Magazine and I was like I was like excuse me but they didn't respond

or anything like that. I think it's gotten a little lazier because of the digital era. People can Google a lot. And you are on a deadline and you've got to post something fast. And there's so much competition to get there fast. Yeah.

Because it's not about like being published in the newspaper anymore. It's about being first online to get to the story first and get the clicks first. Yes. And get that ad revenue first. I always say I'd rather be right than fast. That's good, OHG. Thanks. I respect you.

Thanks. I respect you. Good, OHD. Thanks. I respect you. Thanks. I respect you. And yeah, sports reporters are really still doing that. Yeah.

Because if they don't, they get called on their shit. Being a sports reporter is really tough for a game, if you're a game reporter, because nothing's taped. Everything's live. And you prep all week for that one game. And I mean, it's a lot of legwork yeah people do not understand the pressure of life and you mentioned people call you out so let's say I have Illinois at Nebraska okay I'm I had another two teams the week before I've got

another two teams a week after this so if I mispronounce a kid's name even though we scour it going over truly as a group we'll sit down with their sid at the university and say okay is it a sports information director they're they're like our liaison and we'll go over every pronunciation but sometimes it just still happens and people are like how dare you his name is blah blah blah and i'm like look you know how many names are going through right now and we're we're doing two different teams last week two the next week it's it's a lot of names yeah i mean think about that jesse even like they can't even mispronounce a name like if you mispronounce a name especially in this era with the yeah internet you'll get torn apart on twitter yeah there'll be memes about it like you know how many times i mispronounce

things on my podcast i mispronounce like i right there. When you listen to a reporter or even someone calling a game like your dad or like you, you guys nail it, and you nail it live. Not always. But for the most part, you rarely see a mistake on the good ones. Well, let me just say, too, as we're talking about this, of, oh, it's so hard and it's so much work and all this, I've got to say I always felt like, and not to be cheesy here, but what a privilege that I'm talking about a running back

who's having a great game and not bullets flying over my head in Syria. You know what I mean? I'm not talking about anything that is truly going to negatively affect someone. In fact, I even try to ease up when I'm saying someone's having a bad game. They're trying. That's what my husband always says. He's like, if I miss a basket, people are like, how dare you, blah, blah. He's like, you think I'm wanting to miss that basket?

That's my livelihood. That's my career. I want me to make that basket more than you do. And sports fans, they're great. They're very fanatical. And it's tough. And it's tough having my dad, my grandpa, me, and my husband all in this industry to where people are watching your every little move. People are always trying to catch you.

And it's really unfair. I mean, you would like to think if you're just more or less a good person, and I strongly believe everyone in my family is, that you'd stay above any fray, and you don't. Right. You don't. They'll still try to get you on something. They'll make up something. They'll call you what they'll call you on that magazine. You just made me feel like really spoiled because comics always complain.

We're so spoiled. Comics get a free pass. Yeah, and when we don't, we complain. We're like, I was just joking. So what? I stabbed your mom. It was a joke. Leave me alone. It's like, I was just joking. So what? I stabbed your mom. It was a joke. Leave me alone.

It's like we're under no pressure. Yeah. But now we've come under a little scrutiny and we complain because we want to just be free to say whatever, but we're spoiled. You make any little mistake. Like, yeah, that's a lot of pressure. It's a lot of pressure. And a lot of people don't know, because I had a sports show too before our show, and it's a lot, they put a lot of people because I had a sports show too before our show and it's a lot

they put a lot of pressure on you we were a comedy show and sports comedy is hard to do ours is kind of a comedy show too but when we have

a guest on it's like you gotta be careful you can't just if they're still playing you can't they can't say anything it's fun though

when you get the retired ones on there and they're like fuck Goodell and you're like yeah let it fly we the retired ones on there and they're like fuck Goodell and you're like yeah let it fly now we've never had a guest say that

nobody said fuck Goodell but you can tell their sentiment is there okay yeah not really but they're a little freer is my point

but honestly like from okay so this is our family business is sports and it comes with its challenges and there are times I've seen stuff on Twitter about anyone in my family

and it's heartbreaking there's times I've seen stuff about myself that I'm like what kind of heartbreaking things you see well anything in particular just like mean stuff just mean stuff and like I get really defensive about my husband um and we've talked about this on the show too. I like, you're loyal. Well, I am. Yes. And because my husband's so worth defending. Like, I can't stress this enough of just like, good people.

Like, I'll say something and I'll be like, oh, you know, I'll say something sassy You have a heart, you're tearing up right now.

I am tearing up. You're tearing up. And Sam, Sam doesn't say. You just, every time you watch Real Housewives and you tune out, you deserve it.

You deserve it, girl. Mental break, emotional break, tune out. Now I get it. Now I know why women watch it. I'm freaking tired. She's crying right now. I wasn't prepared for this. If I felt like Sam was a bit of a dippy who at times I'm like, oh boy, he did it again.

I wouldn't. I'd be like, you know, you do you. I'm going to take care of me in my public perception. But Sam so deserves, like, I don't want to say benefit of the doubt, but like if someone says something bad about Sam, which they have, and I have come on Twitter and defended him just because I would anytime. And again, just to kind of finish that, if I say something that's a little, I don't know, just catty or just something not, he'll be like, oh, come on. Sam's such, he's so good.

He's so pure. He makes me such a better person because he'll kind of like, he'll just, you don't mean that. Or like, that's, hey, stay in your lane let's worry about ourselves he's he's that guy yeah sam's as good as they come and then i get very defensive if anyone implies otherwise because i love this moment thank you he um he uh recently when he um when they were making the final roster for the Raptors, he gave a beautiful press conference where he was talking about how if other people make the team and he doesn't make the team, and you could tell it was genuine.

Now I'm getting emotional. He's a good kid. He's a fucking great guy. I'm actually getting verklempt right now. I don't want to cry on my own show. But he said a very heartfelt Now I'm tearing up. He was like, I don't want to be that guy.

He's like, I don't want to be that guy who's upset about someone else. And he's not rooting for someone else to lose their job. Yeah, and he's like, I'm not rooting for someone else. I don't want to be that guy. He made it, you look at yourself going like, yeah, why would I do that? Yeah. Like, why would I do that? And I get to live with this guy.

Yeah. I mean, he truly, he makes me better. But watching him overseas last two years. Do we have some music to cue at that point? Like maybe. I know. I believe I can fly. No, we can't.

He pisses on girls. Do we have a pure song we can play? We definitely got to play something. No, you know what it is, but I got to tell you, OHD, you can't respond to those people on Twitter. They're trolls. You can't respond to them. Not Joe Schmo. I won't respond to Joe Schmo. But I will respond if it's...

Another reporter? Or a former teammate. Oh, you had some devil in your eyes, girl! Wow! I just saw you. That was like, I'll defend my own that was a woman that was a fucking if it's female mother bear you came out and the cub happened to be there and you were in trouble my friend i saw that yeah i saw that that was fucking defense yeah

yeah no he's a former teammate you'll go up to that six, five, six, seven- No, I didn't say in person. I said on Twitter. Oh, on Twitter. Okay. You listen, sir. You listen. Yeah.

You come down here and you talk to me. You come down here and talk. And I bet you go, yes, ma'am. I apologize, ma'am. No, I did. I went to bat for him one time. If you Google my name, that's probably one of the first things that comes up. I went to bat for him one time when he really, really deserved it.

And my husband's such a class act. And he was like, I'm not going to say anything. And I said, well, I am. Because this isn't right. And now we're getting into the whole story. But it's... We want to hear it. It just...

I don't know. And I don't want to get too much into this. Well, we'll Google it. Okay. So you're a very loyal woman. And sometimes the media gets carried away with some of these things. I know of one particular thing I won't mention anything, but obviously then the person said, I didn't say he said.

And so it's like, so why is this even a, why did the media make this even a story? And I think I get involved also because I am a part of the media. And that comes with its challenges, but also like I'm blue check marked. I'm a certifiable source. I cover sports for a living.

So at the end of the day, when it's fact or fiction, yeah, I will do that. Probably, I would like to think regardless if it was a family member or not but when it's my husband who as i've said is just like as like almost annoyingly pure like just wants no harm to no person and yeah and when when there's something like that that comes up um even if he says just don't say anything just don't say i'm like too bad i'm already drafting a tweet. And I'm like, no, it's wrong.

And for the sake of the right thing being right, I am going to defend you because you deserve it. Like, it's so unfair to come after someone so good. There's so many bad people out there. Why would someone who, like, truly hasn't done a bad thing ever, like, have to, you know? Yes. And I think maybe I spoke too soon when I said sports media is

doing better than the regular media because we didn't talk about this. Yeah. I don't know if it's because of the internet, this race to get first. I think it has something to do with it, like where rumors catch on and then that becomes fact.

Yeah. You know, it just moves so fast before the truth gets out and then everyone accepts it and then other reporters pile on. The Twitter pile-on is like a thing now. Yeah. Pile-ons on stories. And then somebody in the corner going, wait, wait, wait, none of that's true, but it's already – Too late. There's that old expression that a lie travels faster than the truth. Yeah.

So this is an example of that kind of. So maybe I spoke too soon. There's some bad reporters in sports journalism as well. The thing that frustrates me is there's no consequences. You're so right. That's what I hate about it. And in cancel culture, it's like, well, let's cancel the poor reporting. Yes, let's cancel the poor reporting.

They act with futility. Like, even with this article I'm talking about in comedy, they wrote an amendment at the end, right? So they said, this is after everyone's already read it, probably. Everyone's already read it in the industry. And by the way, they're not reading the correction.

Yeah, and then there's a correct, now if you go to the article, right? It's in the New Republic. You can just Google it. What's it called? Comedy Has an Alt-Right Problem is the article by some kid who lives in his mom's house in Idaho. Did a lot of field. He didn't even go in a comedy club and he wrote this article.

But anyway, so that was the name of the article. And my name's not in that. My name's in that as the guy who's accused that it ended up being false. Yeah. He owns the club. Wow. So my name's in it as like he manages people like, and he put my name in there. My name's only in there that way.

Yeah. That this guy used to name. But still implying that you're shady. But my name's still in. Yeah. If you Google it, you can Google Giannis and you'll see the alt-right article come up. And if you're lazy and don't read the article, you'll see that my name's just in there as managed by. Those people read the headline.

It's the headline. And anyway, the article's been read already. And it's completely false. And it's been proven to be false. That's horrible. And my old manager is suing. He's suing the New Republic. As he should.

But all they did was put a retraction at the end, being like, this came out, so the source was false. And my manager's going, no, you have to write a complete retraction and an article about how that article cannot be trusted. It's false. And so that's where they're at in the litigation. But yeah, it's not fair. And the kid's still writing. It's like where is the canceling of him as a reporter? you can't just do that that's people's reputations it's like absurd there

has to be consequences for that type of egregious flaw and a reputation is very fragile it's hard to repair because people don't look at the duke lacrosse the duke like the duke lacrosse story yeah i know you're nervous but let's just be I am nervous yeah but here's the deal you're only nervous because of what it connotes in popular culture those guys it was a complete lie it was a complete lie and even at comedy

shows if you see four or five white guys sitting there you'll like you know you'll go like what is this the Duke lacrosse team you know and like everyone laughs like haha meaning like you know-ha, meaning they're whatever bad people. But I don't know who they were personally, but they didn't do that. That whole story was a lie. But everyone attaches them to that story, and a lot of people don't even know.

Most people don't even know that it was all a lie. I'll tell you why. People, we're very simple. And there's so much to bring in all the time. So for us to very easily classify people, good, bad, smart, dumb, rapist, non-rapist, racist, non-racist. We have to put these people in these very clean boxes that an accusation, you can't take it back because we've moved on.

Nope, they're a rapist. There's no way they're not. Yeah. Yeah. People struggle with nuance. They struggle with three dimensions. They want to make everything a comic book. And it's gotten worse.

It's a failure of public education. We could go down a whole rabbit hole. I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. What do you love most about working with me? No, that's a great question. Like I have said this to my friends and family. I have never had more fun working than I am now. And I mean that so sincerely.

Like this was a major career pivot for me, leaving the network and kind of the network of all networks and go out on a limb to go into the betting space, which my agent said, you don't want to be catching up to this in a couple years because this is where the industry is going. And you know me. I come from such a traditional background. We were talking about this last night. I said, I thought I'd be a sideline reporter forever. I mean, you were walking with a book on your head when you were young. Yeah.

You're not messing around. You got a blazer on. I don't know if you're running for office or what's going on. You're a straight edge girl. This is just my skin. Yeah. This is just my second layer of skin.

Yeah, no, I am. I'm pretty straight laced. I don't think I'm a total square, but... I can... You're not a total square. Okay. You like to do shots we did we drank we we did like those senior swankies like frozen diabetes drinks in vegas yeah yeah afterwards i

was like i i felt diet i needed insulin yeah yeah no and and i think anyone in athens georgia from like 2011 to 2014 would confirm i'm not a square. But yeah, I just always thought I'd stick with traditional journalism. And you know, I have no idea what my future holds. But I do think this adds a really good layer to my overall conception and understanding of sports, how people consume sports, why people consume sports, and gambling is just a big part of it. And again, I always kind of thought it was like this kind of icky thing we don't touch. But it's not. It's, when done responsibly, it's great.

It's fun, yeah. I got to say, I'm even now like sprinkling money on games and I'm like, this is so fun. It makes me care about games I otherwise wouldn't care about. Yes. It's just, it helps traditional media. It makes me care about games I otherwise wouldn't care about. It helps traditional media. More people are watching games. Do you think that this is going to lead to corruption in sports? That's what I'm concerned about.

Or was that always there? I mean, in my opinion, there's no way Michael Jordan didn't bet on himself a few times. There's no way. Especially when you consider that he could bet, I know you can't say anything, but especially since he could bet on himself

and just do the points, the spread, like win, buy, that extra challenge the kid liked to gamble. I would say there's a 0% chance. I would go 0% chance that that hasn't happened.

I'm not going to single out Michael Jordan, although we all know he did it because he gambled with everything. He would gamble all% chance that that hasn't happened. I'm not going to single out Michael Jordan, although we all know he did it. Because he's ultra, he gambled with everything. He would gamble all the time. But players probably do, I mean, I just watched this documentary about the scandal, was it Arizona State, point shaving

with that, what was his name? Headache. I don't watch it. You should see it. ASU, it was like 94 and he was point shaving. do you think the acceptance of gambling, because obviously it's been a tornado. It's just like they're everywhere now. BetMGM, it's everywhere.

Do you think that'll lead to more, or do you think less? Because what's your thoughts on that? Well, kind of the school of thought is if you legalize anything it takes away the scumminess of it you know what i mean if legalized marijuana so now you don't have creepy drug dealers in the street it's i mean if you got to think of it that way it's and most people do do these things responsibly most people do do them yeah even prostitution which i know you can't comment on but but I'll say that should be legal. Why? It's going to happen anyway. Regulate it, put it in a district or whatever. It's going to happen anyway. It's one

of those things that people do it anyway. I know it's weird to say most people do it responsibly, but I think most people do do it responsibly. I think you're talking about just a few ugly businessmen who, you know, just, you know, their're, you know, their wife's got four kids. They're not so interested in giving them BJs anymore. And they got to get the poison out. So you squeeze the blue gun, you get the poison out,

and you go back home and you make cereal for your kids. Big fucking deal. Who am I to judge? I'm just saying it's going to happen anyway. You just want them to go to one block, one neighborhood to do it. And tax the shit out of it.

There's a lot of revenue there. Tax it. Tax the shit out of it. And then it takes away revenue there. Tax it. Tax the shit out of it. And then it takes away the criminality, the abuse, the pimps. You lose a lot of good rap music, but girls won't be getting backhanded, and that's a good thing. Yeah, and you always surprise me. I have a free mouth. I don't work for anybody, but yes, I'm a comedian.

We get away with murder. You do. We do. It's ironic. We're kind of like the pretty girls. We're kind of like, I'm just a pretty girl. Don't leave me. I don't know what I'm doing comedian. We get away with murder. You do. We do. It's ironic. We're kind of like the pretty girls. Like, we're kind of like, I'm just a pretty girl. Don't leave me. I don't know what I'm doing.

Yeah. Yeah. I just said Michael Jordan definitely gambled, but hey. I like your impression of a pretty girl. Yeah, pretty girl, pretty girl. Today's, today's, today's. I got big ten eyes. Your poor microphone today has been a Wisconsin guy's beer belly.

Yeah. I got a lot of like this. I feel bad for that microphone. Yeah. ass. Your poor microphone today has been a Wisconsin guy's beer belly. I got a lot of ideas. I feel bad for that microphone. That's it. So you're saying you're saying... I think it'll all be okay. I think it'll make everything cleaner. You think it'll make it cleaner? I agree with you. But I'm also very optimistic.

You're optimistic and we're both employed by it. So it's like, it's cleaner and can't wait for their contract renegotiating because our show's doing pretty good. Yeah, what day is it? Tuesday? Yeah.

What date is the check in? No, I agree. It's like, it's happening anyway. Yeah. It's happening anyway and it's not the worst thing when you remove the taboos and everything.

Some people can't handle too much chicken. Some people can't handle too much steak. Yeah. Some people can't handle too much sugar. Yeah.

So. Like we sell alcohol and alcoholism is a handle too much sugar. We sell alcohol, and alcoholism is a huge problem. We sell gambling. And even food. Food is like, most people die of too much food. Their hearts give out not because they were gambling,

it's because they were having McDonald's four times a week. Is that what we're saying is too much? Four times? I forgot you were from America where there are no good restaurants. Hey! You said the other day Kansas City doesn't have a skyline, and that's just simply not true. Let's look up Kansas City skyline.

Yeah, it's gonna look like a block in Brooklyn. Okay. One block in Brooklyn. It's gonna look like a block in Brooklyn, yeah. Yeah, that's the one thing New York does have over... We just got better food than you guys got. Yeah. Well, now we've been spending time in Toronto and the food in Toronto is really good.

The food in D.C. I'm headed there this afternoon. Very good. You went to college there. Food's great. You're a woman on the go. You're on a plane. You're on a train.

You're in a makeup room. You're in a bath stall at 7-Eleven putting that makeup on. You're on Twitter defending the ones you love. Yeah. You are OHD. Let them hear you roar. Yeah. Listen to us on Unleashed, BetMGM.

God damn it, I can't believe I'm doing this for free. And I told you I had some news. Breaking news? Breaking news. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. But also, before we get to that, follow Olivia Harland Decker on Twitter, Instagram.

She's absolutely great. I love her to death. I love working with her. We're having so much fun. It's the burgeoning of a new friendship. Yeah. And it's getting emotional again. I know.

Not again. Damn it. And just follow her. She's great. Listen to our show. Listen to her on all the stuff she does on BetMGM because you do more than a lot. Well, way more than you. Way more than me.

So check her out. And let's get to this breaking news. Yes. Okay. Breaking news. And I brought it with me. You're pregnant. I am.

Oh, my God. You're actually going to cry now. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm actually going to cry now. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm going to cry now. This is so cute. That is incredible, Jen. I am pregnant.

That is incredible for my baby. And we haven't told anyone but family, so I really wanted to save the breaking news for you. That is so nice. Thank you. Do you want to hold my baby? Yeah. What do you think? It's incredible.

This is incredible. you know we were yesterday yannis who has a one-year-old was telling me isn't that darling yeah and my baby's gonna be so huge how do you accept this as a guy how do you do it no but i mean no but i mean like this is so nice like i love it but like i don't know how to show it just hold it up i want to cry it's a six month size but i think my newborn will be that size this is like this is like the nicest thing look at how cool that is isn't that yeah you called it because i texted you today when you asked me my breakfast order maybe that gave it away and you said i just don't know if i can fit in it but i appreciate it it's not a gift it's not for

me no oh i thought why would i give you a baby onesie? I'm joking, OHD. This is the nicest thing. Thank you so much. It's not for you. It's for Gianna. It's for my little baby girl. No, but do you remember yesterday when we were standing... And we're going to burn it because we're Knicks fans.

No! What the fuck is this shit? I'm just kidding. And you said being a father, being a parent, was the best thing in the world. It is, yes. And I said, oh, you know, a couple years away a parent was the best thing in the world. It is, yes. And I said, oh, you know, a couple years away because I wanted to surprise you today. Yes. And I'm three months pregnant.

Yeah. Oh, so you are pregnant. You still think I'm kidding? Are you serious? I'm still serious. You said, Giannis. Wait, is he joking or are you serious? No, I'm due May 14th.

I'm legit pregnant. You can't tell? Oh, so this is for your baby? Yes! This is not for Gianna? Oh my God. What's going on right now? I made a joke before you were pregnant and you said no.

Well, yeah, because I was saving it for the show. Oh my God, you're pregnant! You still think I'm pregnant? Yannis! I know. Congrats. Are you so surprised? I am very surprised.

You can't tell I'm fat? No. I just thought you were eating Wisconsin at the game. Yeah. I thought you were just eating cheese curds. Congrats. I have been eating a lot of cheese curds. Yeah.

I've never been more hungry in my life. Congratulations. Actually, you know when I first found out? Yeah. Right before our Vegas trip. So I was faking. You didn't drink anything. I didn't.

You liar. You were getting me drunk. You goddamn liar. I can't trust you. So you were just pushing it back in there? Yeah, and then kind of pouring some out. And remember I asked for only one shot instead of two? Yes.

I don't know if you remember that. You bought the daiquiris. I did buy the daiquiris. You owe me $17.47. I think I do owe you $17.47. Yes. Yeah. But this is for Gianna. No, me $17.47. I think I do owe you $17.47. Yeah. Yeah. But this is for Gianna.

No, it's not. So where's Gianna's? Gianna's won. This is six months. Oh, that's true. And it says daiquiris is for my newborn baby. That was so funny. I thought it was for Gianna.

I know. I was very confused by your reaction. Yeah, but that's because you lied to me again and told me you weren't pregnant. You saved it for the show. Yeah, because I don't do anything that's not on camera. All right, let me hold it again now. Okay. Oh, my God, you're pregnant.

Yeah, that's a – I thought your reaction was weird. Well, because I thought – because I didn't think you were pregnant because you lied to me again. You lied to me about the daiquiris and you lied to me – before I made the joke you were pregnant. You could have said I am pregnant, but we're going to make it on the show. We'll do it on the show. No, we're real. But then it wouldn't have been a genuinely confusing reaction. Yeah, this has been very confusing.

Very confusing. That is so nice. Thank you. Yes, I can't believe it. So I guessed it right is what we're saying. Yeah. Yeah, so this goes back to you. Give me my baby back.

Yeah, it's okay because we're Knicks fans anyways. But that is incredible. Thank you. That kid is going to be huge, kind, smart, have great parents. A little sassy on Twitter. And hopefully we'll save you a little money. A little sassy on Twitter. And hopefully save you a little money for college because that kid's not going to be a lick under 6'5".

No. You're 5'8"? I'm 5'8". 5'8". Your husband is 6'9". And Sam was the most giant baby. Yeah. So I really don't know what I got myself into.

Adoption should have been an option. Yeah, they better get a crane to get that kid out. Oh, Sam, congratulations. I know you're not watching this because this is a scummy show for you. You're a pure-hearted kid. Yeah, what a great way for my kid to come out. Yeah, what a great place to make the announcement. But now I'm very, thank you.

Yeah. Yeah, you did it on my show. That's very nice. Well, just Saturday, I turned three months, which is kind of when you can start saying it. So I thought, I'm going to say it on the show. I'm going to save it for Giannis. Yeah.

And you know what? This was like... I'm positive this was going to... Fans are going to love this. This was a fun show. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking we would maybe just put it on the Patreon because it would be a snoozer.

But it ended up being amazing. Hey. I cried. Now you know why i'm so emotional this was this was actually amazing i'm crying about my baby daddy i'm not crying about my husband yeah no you just got crazy women chemicals in you i do i do have you been eating weird like pickles and shit like no but i've been eating everything in sight i've been starving that's why you're wolfing down those chicken fingers well i was like we were at the game and

i was like this girl's got a great metabolism but that was pregnancy when you were like you took some out of mine and you were like and you know I didn't get a beer at the game you didn't get a beer yeah you got just double chicken fingers you're eating for two yeah you got a big baby in you so you're gonna be eating a lot you're maybe you want to button my place Sam let me give you a little advice, Sam. Yeah. Okay. You're going to get a lot of weird, strange requests. Oh. My wife would do things like, can you just hold my feet? Okay, so she would- Just hold them.

I would hold her foot. She would just put her foot. Yeah, you're going to- Because you have a baby growing in you right now. Yes, yeah. You're like a mutant. Yeah. You're like, there's something living off of you.

It's freaky. It's freaky. So like, women are like mortal gods. There's something living off of you. It's freaky. So like you're chemical, like women are like mortal gods. Yeah. I like watching my wife get pregnant and give birth gave me like a level of, it's beyond respect.

It's awe. You're just in awe. You're like, holy shit. And so it's like, and then watching the birth is like the craziest thing. Did you watch it all? I watched the whole thing. I watched the, what is that called? The crazy people eat it.

Placenta. Yeah. Everything. I saw the whole thing. None of the, what is that called? The crazy people eat it. Placenta. Yeah, everything. I saw the whole thing. None of it bugged me out. Wow. And I'm usually a little bugged out by that. I mean, my baby shit on my wife as soon as it came out. Shit right on her.

And I was just like, wow. I've also heard the opposite happening. She could shit inside, yeah. No, the wife, the lady giving birth, the goddess giving birth. That happens too. There's shit and blood everywhere. It's not pretty. The funny thing is it's not pretty and it's all nature because you're looking like nothing.

It's like the most primal thing we do. And it's like incredible. It's like holy – it was just incredible. And I was standing there. My wife was in labor for hours and I was standing holding her leg for hours and it's that thing. It didn't feel like hours. It was like – because I was so in awe, I was taking in this incredible, and then the baby comes out and you can't explain, the thing most people say is you can't explain what

it feels like, you can't explain the love you have for the kid, it can't be explained. And then it brings, people say like, oh you love the baby more than your wife, it brings everything more together. Because now I'm like, I love this thing that's also my wife. So it made me love my wife more. Yeah, I've heard that. It made me love us more. It's like, it's just like, it's funny because you realize like, oh, that's the meaning of life.

It's like, we're no different than cockroaches or everything that reproduces. It's like making a kid is like the most fulfilling thing in the world. But here's my advice to Sam. You will get weird requests because you're gonna get weird and you know you're it's what happens i've been very normal so far i will say only three months when you start getting a little heavy my wife would go hold my foot she would go just hold my foot so i go what do you mean hold your foot she just hold my foot and so i would just hold her foot and then i'd like start massaging and she'd go no just hold it just hold it i hold it. I'm like, what do you mean? She's like, just hold it. I said hold it. And I'm like, why? And she's like, I don't know.

That's funny. And she just liked me holding her foot. And then she would go like, I need mozzarella sticks. Yeah. And I'd be like, what do you mean? And I'd be like, we don't have any mozzarella sticks. She would go, I need mozzarella sticks. Yeah, I know we don't have them. Yeah. She's like, go find mozzarella sticks.

And I'd be like, where? There's no it's three in the morning. yeah she's like go find mozzarella sticks and i'd be like where there's no it's three in the morning and she would like i need mozzarella sticks so and like her voice changed she's like get me fucking mozzarella sticks 3 a.m in westchester where you just like i'd have to go to like a gas station and find mozzarella like she the the food cravings are real the food aversions are real there were certain things that like she loved that just grossed her out and like other things that she normally hated because like it's, it's like maybe what the baby likes. I don't even, it's, it's like mystical. She started eating things or maybe like what the nature knows you need to give the baby

like calcium or whatever it is. And then you start craving those foods. Like if you're craving a steak, you're probably short on iron. Short on iron. It's like wild shit like that because you're nurturing something in you. And then the baby starts kicking and stuff. You're like – Crazy.

It's funny because women are like – handle it good. As a dude, you really feel how stupid dudes are when they're happy because dudes are like – we turn into like Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. We're like, whoa. That's fucking wild. Because you see like a foot going. No, it's scary. Like you know the baby's in there, but then when you see,

you feel like you're not going to see the body until it's out. You see it. But the body's in there. And you start feeling it and seeing it before. And my wife would go, ee, ee. She'd giggle and I'd be like, what's up? She'd be like, oh, Gigi's kicked me. I'm like, you're a crazy, you have a person in your body. Yeah.

It's like having an alien in your house. Oh, my God. We're going to find out the gender in a couple weeks. I'm really excited for that. You won't find out the gender until she's about 10. And then she will tell you. She will say, Mommy, Daddy, I am a zooby-dooby. Actually, gender reveals are kind of controversial now.

It's like, why are you? Gender reveals are so boomer. I guess you say I want to find out guess, I just, I want to find, I guess you say I want to find out the sex. Yeah, you want to find out the sex and,

you know, yeah, the gender. Okay, I want to know the gender. You do what you do in the Decker household. And you know,

if it's a girl, I'm going to do pink everything. If it's a boy, I'm going to do blue everything. You do. Call me basic. Call me old fat bitch. You are a basic bitch.

I want this kid to be whoever it wants to be, but when it's a little newborn baby, it's whoever I want it to be. Goddamn right. Your mom's OHD, and you're going to be walking around with a book on your head.

Oh, do you have any baby name recommendations that you think sounds good with Decker? Sam Jr.? Because that could be boy or girl? Yeah. Sam Jr.? Well, I told you Sam's initials. You know what's the name that's a little underrated?

Stalin Decker? No, okay. He's got bad. That name's retired in the bad. It's a good name, though. It means steel. Stalin. Ruined a good name.

Okay, let's stop there. Yeah, let's stop there. I think we'll ask someone else for baby name advice. Charlotte. That's pretty. Charlotte Decker. You know, my sister-in-law wants to do Charlotte and call her Lottie. So it's like girls do this. Girls put a claim

on a name years before when there's not even a boyfriend, there's no one in the picture and they'll say, just so everyone knows, I love the name Charlotte. So you'll do that even before anyone's pregnant. Yeah, girls do that. I've had a baby name list on my phone name Charlotte. Yeah. So you'll do that even before anyone's pregnant. Yeah. Girls do that.

I've had a baby name list on my phone since like six. So what's your name? So what are your names that you like? I'm not telling you. Okay. Why not? You told me you were pregnant and you told me we cried on my show. I thought it was because you were getting emotional.

You're just a crazy pregnant person right now. I'm just a crazy pregnant person. I'm hungry. I'm thinking about the second half of my breakfast sandwich. Yeah. Should I order a pizza? Maybe. I am. Oh my God about the second half of my breakfast sandwich. Yeah. Should I order a pizza? Maybe. I am.

Oh, my God. All I can think about is food. Yeah. I like Charlotte. Cynthia. What's going on? You want to go Greek? Athena.

Athena is a beautiful name. Athena. And then everyone will think that our blonde blue baby is Greek. Yeah. Then you'd be a blonde baby. Yeah. Athena is a beautiful name, though. It is.

I want to think about... Okay. I love the idea of doing something with a D, so it's like da-da-da-decker or something, you know? Da-da-da-decker. Daniela. Daniela. Daniela.

You say it like that. Daniela. I think you're forgetting just how... Denise? No. David? We have a lot of Davids. Yeah.

Keep thinking. Shlomi? Probably Shlomi. LeBron? Yeah, LeBron. LeBron. LeBron Decker. Yeah.

Well, congratulations, OHC. Thank you. I'm so happy for you. You thought I was kidding. That was the weirdest reaction. That was a weird moment. Because you already told me. I didn't know what was going on.

Yeah. I thought it was for Gianna. You literally texted me this morning. You're pregnant. I said, ha ha, no, but I'll tell you some news. Right. See, I'm stupid. I should have known.

I was really stupid. But you know, no, you're a good liar. I am. Because why would I think you were pregnant if you were downing drink? You're the one who, it was like your idea to drink the alcohol. I was like, let's go get daiquiris. Let's go get these. And then you were fake drinking like a sociopath.

And then we went to dinner that night with Maddie and Casey. And you ordered a drink. And I ordered a drink. I went to the restaurant early and I told the hostess, I just found out I'm pregnant. Can I order a vodka soda and you just bring a club soda? And they said, yep, we'll tell your waitress. You are a classy wasp. You guys know how to just because you don't want to tell i i was like one weekend you know you

don't want to tell people then yes yeah congrats to you and sam thanks sam congratulations the decker family congratulations congratulations to all the deckers. Another Decker, another Harlan is on the way. Wisconsin has another athlete. Yeah, sign him up for UW basketball right now. Yes. Thank you, OHD. Or her.

Or her. Or Zuby. Or Shlomi. Or Shlomi. It's been a long day.