Yannis Pappas Hour - John Stamos! - LongDays with Yannis Pappas - Episode 32

Episode Date: August 8, 2021

Finally, we see the full spectrum of Greek American genetics in one podcast. The talented & hilarious John Stamos joins Yanni for a long day. They chat about touring with The Beach Boys, being fathers, their Greek heritage, Don Rickles and what he meant to John and to comedy, his brotherhood with his Full House co-stars and losing their heroes, their dads. There’s also a bunch of wildness that you’d expect with your cuppa long day. Make sure to check out Big Shot on Disney Plus & Snatching Sinatra, his true crime podcast limited series about the kidnapping of Frank Sinatra jr as told by the guy who did it. Wild.   Listen to Snatching Sinatra on Apple here https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/introducing-the-grand-scheme-snatching-sinatra/id1435516849?i=1000530258036   Spotify here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1azK457ssYgaX0fWWD1Pas?si=nkomSI60Qmuw6R9ei6a7qw&dl_branch=1   Sponsors: Ground News: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ground-news/id1324203419 Raycon ear buds: https://rayconglobal.com   For an additional bonus episode every week and more Yantent, click here and support the show: https://www.patreon.com/yannilongdays   The show goes out every Saturday night at 9 PM est. to youtube and podcast audio platforms but while it's being recorded the show goes LIVE on Yannis' Instagram!   Come join in on the LONG DAY & Follow Yannis Pappas   Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/yannispappas/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/yannispappas Website - https://www.yannispappascomedy.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

down this poppers what's up everybody welcome about to be a long day it's a long day it's a long day what's up everybody welcome to another episode of long days with i'll say it this episode um the lesser of the two stamos is i got the real deal okay i got connections through the greek church i was able to get the real john stamos the great talented john stamos thank you for deigning to do this podcast you know i love you and it makes my wife jealous but i do um you know i didn't i just found you on instagram like accidentally and i was like this guy is really fucking funny why do i not know why don't i him? And then I slowly found out that you do bits about me

and that you're called the Slow Stamos. Yeah, Special Needs Stamos. What's that? Special Needs Stamos is my nickname. And I was like, wow, this is kismet that we've become friends. And I've just bragged to everybody how funny. I say, you're like the Greek Robin Williams, not you're funny like him but you're as hairy as him that's one of my jokes on you so but people know that that that that we're that we're friends now

or they know there's there was you tease me a lot or how how is this going and you've become yeah you've become kind of like part of the podcast um slang they know they know stamos is in the chat they know stamos is in the patreon they know sometimes i go in the chat when i see you and i go in there and i say hi and then you sort of ignore me then i text you on your real phone you go hey he's calling me on a real phone ignore me that more and i was like fucking i'm out and boom and who do i have to sleep with wait who do i have to sleep with to not get so many fucking emails for your patreon thing i mean it was the biggest mistake signing up for this thing i think you'd have yeah 10 emails a day

and i can't even figure out what they're about yeah i don't know why you're getting so many alerts it's too much you're getting a lot of alerts uh The person you need to sleep with is Drew's mother. If you could sleep with Drew's mother, I will tone down those emails for you. Drew, our producer. Oh, he's drinking out of a long day's mug. Oh, God. How did this get in there?

He's got a dildo in there. Look at that. And it is at John. I got this mug everybody how did that happen how did that happen I talked to the audience yesterday and I said I've been trying

I complained about the emails and then I got this long days cup which took a long time it wasn't expensive but it was a really nice cup and I spent three days folks three days trying to set up this bit where i was peeing in the cup and i had to set i had to have this whole thick setup thing and i didn't get it right the light wasn't right on one i tried to i had to download an app to make the light better then i went out the next night again dicked it up and i was like what am i doing what i've spent a lot of time on this bit it's that

i should be paying attention to my son and my wife. I put a dildo on it and there we go. You told me you couldn't get it because you couldn't get the lighting right for it, which means that you probably got a nice piece. I'm thinking your glue gun is decent. Or maybe it's not because God gave you so many other

talents. Let me just say this real quick, John, and I mean this. You are a talented kid you're a musician you're hilarious you're a great dramatic actor i'm because the universe is balanced i'm gonna say you have an average size piece yeah that would make sense but no no you're good are we but we start off saying nice things about each other and then when are we going to start you know well we would do a little bit of both like i was going to say you had a lot of time on your hands to make that video because big shot

didn't get picked up to go to china china what do you mean china because that's where it makes money oh well we're not we don't know we're still on we're still hanging in there trying to get fingers crossed let me say if they don't pick it up that's a shame it's the only disney show first of all that i watched that would be considered legal for me to watch secondly it was really good i mean you were really good in it i'm a huge basketball flan uh flan um and i played basketball in high school and college and let me tell you something you were very believable for a guy who only studied ballet you were really good as a basketball coach yeah i didn't i wasn't we we've talked about this too i i i'm not i god gave me a lot of things as you just said athleticism was not one of them i'm i'm lame at it i tried to play golf with my dad and i almost killed a woman.

I just, and so this, so I was, when you get a call from your agents, and they're all, you know, you probably got this. Do you have an agent? I do, yeah. Okay, good. They, you know, you have so-and-so, so-and-so, like three or four, and the manager says, oh, this is something good, or I'm in trouble. And it's like, oh, we got this offer, this David Kelly show. I was like, oh, God, I love David Kelly, man. That's, you know, I've always wanted to work with him. And I said, is it like Big Little Lies or, you know, one of those heavy

duty dramatic things he does? And they said, I said, what's it about? They said, basketball. I'm like, oh no. What do I, they said, but you're a coach. I said, oh, what do they do? I mean, I know coaching, but so it was difficult, but I dug in really really deep and as you said it worked somebody introduced me fixed me up with Jerry West you know who he is right if you don't know who Jerry West is he's the logo

he's actually the logo of the NBA and so I went down and I said Mr. West thank you for meeting with me and giving me some tips. Thanks for inviting me to the rehearsal today. He said, well, first of all, it's not called rehearsal. It's called practice.

What inning is it, Jerry? Yeah, exactly. I mean, I'm not kidding. He said, those aren't costumes. They're uniform. But I've been telling these jokes on the press to lunch the show. And then he's gone on TV saying, you know, Stamos thinks he's funny and everything,

but he really played a great coach. He's the kind of coach that I would have liked where I would have trained. He talked to me a lot about coaching girls versus the same. But then I also got to hang out with some of the other owners, some of the managers. There's a guy named Frank, something Frank, who was a manager. Sinatra Jr. got kidnapped? No, we'll get to that.

We'll get to that. Frank. Lawrence Frank. And he worked with Bobby Knight for three years or something. He was his assistant. So I got tons of great stories about him. And then I studied a lot of video. Bobby Knight is,

was one is a funny motherfucker, isn't he? Bobby Knight is one of those shoot from the hip kind of honest Indiana basketball guys who much like your character likes to throw chairs. Yeah. I mean, your character reminded me the most of Bobby Knight and I'm not exaggerating it,

dude. You, you crushed it in that show. I mean, You crushed it in that show. I mean, you were incredible in that show. I mean, all jokes aside. Thank you. I don't know. I think I tapped into my dad or something, some of his energy. And again, I studied a lot of guys, you know, and I was looking for the right look with Pat Riley or something with the hair. People say some other coaches, but I read all the John Wooden books. I thought that was important. And David E. Kelly's father was a hockey coach.

So he had some of that. But it was a great experience. And we, you know, we didn't, we made it years ago and then COVID hit. And then, you know, we had to sort of plow through that. But it landed at the perfect time. I mean, it landed the week that the headlines were, you know, about the inequality in the gyms versus female versus male.

And, you know, it was just we broke the stereotype of a jackass guy coming in and, you know, they save his life. You know, it was or he saves them. It was really them saving me and teaching me, you knowvin about his ideals are old and they're they're they're ancient and you gotta you know get get i hate to use the term woke but just you gotta just pay attention it's i mean it's a 98 uh female diverse cast i i just love the show and i'm gonna be hard well that's how it got made yeah but we wouldn't have made it otherwise broadcast it here on the yannis papas uh long days and speaking of long days this i tune into you once in a while and it's long the show's long it's uh dude it's a long day we call it a norwegian summer it's uh the sun never sets

the thing about you is that you and then and again we're i don't want to say too many nice things about you you're so fucking smart thank you but i do look like you if you were retarded no let's not use that word. Well, my brother is, so I could use it, but we can cut it as well. Whatever you're comfortable with. No, I don't care. You know what I was going to say is funny.

This is how you can tell the levels in show business. Like Stamos is like, obviously, you know, he's John Stamos. So he asked me if I had an agent. That's how you know the difference in levels of where I am and where he's like, you got an agent, right? I'm like, yeah. That was mainly a joke. That was sort of a joke.

No, I get it. I'm going to show you something because we should talk. I mean, I know your audience. Don't take your dick out. Too late. It's out. That's what I figured. I heard about you.

You like the podcast. Your piece out. Yeah. I mean, do your fans want to hear us sort of have a real interview or goof around or both? I guess you would say both, huh? I think it's a little bit of both. Yeah, I think it's a little bit of both. I think we have fun, and then you let me know afterwards what you're comfortable with. I'm comfortable with everything, man.

These podcasts, I used to just turn them all down because you really had to kind of open up too much but then I realized they're great cuz you can really talk and get a conversation going I've done a few for this you know for the for the snatching Sinatra podcast thing that I'm doing and they've been really a joyful but you do you know you do it sort of feel like a shrink session I usually turn it around on the on the people because i i've heard enough of my bullshit like i love to find out about you know the you turn it on me flip me over whatever you want take me from behind whatever you want to do i'm here for the thing about podcasts is i think because of the internet now people have seen

behind the curtain and like it's hard to go back so they they enjoy the candid talk they want to hear the genuine side you mean the audience yeah the audience yeah i think it's just it's kind of it's kind of broken the fourth wall it's kind of we've seen behind the curtain we see the wizard of oz you know they know they know you're from full house but they also know that there's a man behind there and that man has a perfect piece. You know, the not taking yourself so serious and letting people see behind the curtain

happened about 10 or 15 years ago when you'd watch a talk show and like George Clooney would be doing, would put on a wig and do Paris Hilton. You know, all those bits that have gone viral with the Jimmy Kimmel's

and Jimmy Fallon's and stuff. Like it's just, you know, 10 or 15 years ago, which you probably weren't, you know, you were younger then,

people weren't taking the, I was, but people weren't taking the piss out of themselves and it's so great to see it. And if you don't now, you're out, right? I mean,

you have to, when you get De Niro on these shows, you know, joke, goof, saying, you know, you're talking to me in a wig, then you know you got to do it, right? I did a thing. There's this Greek kid. What's that little Greek kid's name?

Short little guy that Jimmy Kimmel found. Oh, Andy Milonakis. Yeah, Andy Milonakis. And my press agent, 20, 15, 20 years ago, said, there's this kid, he's a Greek kid. He really wants to put you on the show. And I said, okay. He said, it's a little out there. I said, I don't give a fuck anymore, you know? And this was back then.

And it was like, I got there and he go, I said, what's the bit? He said, well, you're up in a tree. I said, okay. And I'm going to call the fire department because I'm going to say, my John Stamos is stuck in a tree.

And we're going to have the fire department come and save you. I said, okay. Even like Howard, and you're talking about how these podcasts have become so popular. I mean, Howard Stern was the originator, I guess. Original. You know what I mean? And when he switched over to these long interviews like we do on here, I mean, it just changed the game, right? But I remember the same publicist said this, go,

when Howard wasn't Howard, it was 20, it was, I don't even think I was on Full House yet. Maybe I was just starting and he said,

you should do his Channel 9 show in New York and his radio. So I did the radio show and they said, will you do the Channel 9 show? Yeah.

And he was Larry King and it, you know, Ralph did this big makeup on him. And I just saw the clip the other day. Someone put it on Facebook or something. And it was so funny because it's like, Blackie, General Hospital.

And he was interviewing like a top of girls. And I was under the desk. They kept pushing my head down. It was really something. But how did you get away with Blackie back then? Like when they show the reruns, do they change it to P-O-C-E? There's no reruns in soap operas, smartass. Oh, there you go.

Yeah, they would have to definitely, they'd have to dub you with a voice that came in and said, Steven. Hey, Steven. Yeah, things have changed. But that character was based on and did you would you say your mom some one of your relatives watched it or was that somebody else another greek um no my wife watched my wife as a kid watched the two things that i think you don't love the best

that's oh the the alice in wonderland we have to talk about that yeah we'll talk about that but um no i watched i was i was familiar with you um from full house obviously i don't know i don't know about what other people know you from but i know you from the streets yeah you know yeah i know you yeah the streets and full house well i played a street so i auditioned i had to audition for i just remember the story i had an audition for general hospital i was was just 18 or something, and it was to play Blackie, the street urchin, you know, from New York. Now, I'd never been in New York. I was a kid in Orange County.

I grew up at, like, Disney. Who's calling you? This is someone from Disney. Is it not your wife? She's jealous that you're talking to me? I had this audition, and I've never been to New York, and it's Blackie, the's jealous that you're talking to me for this audition and um and i've never been to new york and it's blackie this street urchin you know i live it on the docks i was a homeless kid and i get adopted by and i said like i gotta work on my walk man because

those you know like like travolta and saturday night fever you know i gotta new york but i'd never been to new york so i borrowed my mom's leather jacket because I thought the guy should have a leather jacket. But it was my mother's. And I drove up to what I thought looked like, I'm driving around Hollywood. Before the audition, I was like, this looks like New York. It was Santa Monica Boulevard, which is Boys Town. And it's a very nice street with a lot of nice bars and a lot of nice men. And I thought, this is where I'm going to work on my walk on this this street so I get out of my dad's El Camino with my mom's leather jacket on and I'm doing like we're trying different walks like I got

something up my ass and you know he's getting a lot woohoo I got a lot of cat calls so I I then I then I was thinking you know what it what am I missing a bandana Chachi man Chachi remember Chachi. Remember Chachi had a bandana tied around his leg there? I said, I need a bandana. So I go to the guy and I said, how about a yellow bandana? He said, okay, great. I said, thank you.

Here you go. I think he wanted to kiss me or something, but I can't remember. Then I get back in my... So I tie it around my leg. I go to the audition. I do my, hey, you know, Blackie. And the cashier says, can I ask you something? I said, yeah. He said, do you know what the bandana around your leg means?

I said, chachi? You know, I don't know. He said, no, it means you like to be peed on. That's in our culture. You like to be peed on. I'm like, what? You know, I'm this little kid from Orange County. Peed on.

Got it and get the brown one but i got the job didn't get pete on and the rest is history that was your first big thank god you went with a yellow bandana because in la if you put a red or blue one on you it could have been a mistake yo yeah could have been a mistake and in new york the yellow is latin king so but and i think you're safe in santa monica but that was your beginning did you why did you get into acting was it because you had a beautiful face i didn't have a beautiful face when i was younger i took i was just growing into you know something around that time but i was sort of a dorky kid in school and i was i was very uncoordinated why does every good-looking person say that every good-looking person goes you know i didn't get good looking until yesterday. When I was a kid, you should have seen me.

I mean, it looked like, you know, somebody smashed me in the head with a frying pan. I mean, I seen young pictures of you and I think I've pulled the glue gun to him a few times. You were always a handsome kid. You're Greek. You're a Greek God. It's what it is.

Did you know me like from your family? Oh, there's one of our boys. John is on. Yeah. The thing is, like, I don't know how your dad was, but when you grow up Greek, you are made aware of every single Greek person who is successful. Yeah. I mean, my mother used to make me wait at the end of the movies to just see the Greek names. If there was Greek grips or assisted.

So, yeah, you were you were well known every greek knows and supports john stamos i mean that was my dad man just like that it was like and it was these are your people you know we went to my friend reminded me this the other day we were in um some chicago or maybe it was toronto or something and we went to greek they said oh you got to come to davenport i think it was right and we went to this Greek restaurant and you know people went crazy it was a height of you know I think full house or whatever my dad said these are your people and so and then people were coming over in pictures and autographs and I said dad you know let's get out of here no these are you? These are your people. You got to be there.

Hey, my boy. Here he is. You know, and the owners came over. They took pictures and they put it, you know, they wanted to print it. Went down the store, printed it, put it up on the wall and all this stuff. And I said, dad, I'm exhausted. I got one more. Come on, get the bus boy out of here.

And then the check comes and it was like $120 per bottle of Uzo. And he went from, these are your people, to these fucking cocksucker Greeks, god damn it. I tell you, I love the Greeks and I love the support for the Greeks, but whenever I've done Greek shows, I hate them. They're the worst because it's

always through the church. There's always a priest there. The grandmothers are there. The guys are there with the kids. And so every Greek show I had to say like, hey, can we just have like a cut off of 14 and maybe nobody over 85 and nobody whose job is talking to Jesus? That would be nice if I could perform for normal people. But the Greeks, they like to bring the whole family, the yaya and everything. We talked about Olympia passing away recently. I worked with her

on a TV movie years ago and she I was like, oh man, isn't it one of the first things, Greeks, man, isn't this great? We're Greeks. Don't you love the Greeks? She says, no, they're assholes. They're not, but you know. Yeah, they're tough, but you know, they're very they're very, very supportive, very supportive. Do you how Greek are you?

I know your dad is Greek. He owned a restaurant, which is like a Greek stereotype, right? Like my character, Mr. Panos. But he married he married a model. He married a model. Well, my mother. mother yeah she's Irish so she was she's red she was red-headed and white and my dad was you know Greek Greek Greek yeah my last name was Stamatopoulos and my great-grandfather my grandfather's shorted it when he came over Ellis Island

have you done that did you see that show I did this um the who do you think you are show where they take you back to your ancestry i know the show but i haven't seen yours yeah it was really interesting because they so i watched a few times did you find out you were turkish i did yeah i don't know but i but you never know they're gonna they always drop a bomb on you it's somewhere and i never knew when it was coming and i'm like is this it don't i cry but you never know. They always drop a bomb on you somewhere. And I never knew when it was coming. And I'm like, is this it? Do I cry now? Like, what am I?

But eventually we got to this little town of... No, what was it called? I'll think of it in a second. Small Greek village. It was a little village where my grandfather grew up. And it turns out that the Koleopoulos and the Stamatopoulos family were like the Hatfields and McCoys, where there was some issue, whatever. And it turns out that, so my grandfather was named after this guy, John Koleopoulos.

This is boring. No, no, I'm listening. I'm just throwing a snooze in. What are you putting in your teeth? It's a snooze. a snooze a swedish snooze taba tobacco oh you spit it out what's the wife's take about keep it yeah you keep it right here what happened was i started smoking again i remember i was facetime with you in la and you saw me with a cigarette then i was hiding them from my wife and then finally i got a picture with her just holding a pack that she found so now i've quit and i've gone back to the swedish news which is supposedly

not as bad for you does she say look we have a daughter now she does be around and see how unfunny you are when she's old enough to listen to you she does say that but you know what i'm 14 years older than her and i'm like look i'm die first anyway. So at least let me enjoy it. I mean, you're going to have to raise this kid. Yeah. This is crazy, by the way. This is crazy. So I'll tell the story real quick. My wife, my father passed away and my daughter was born on my father's birthday a year after my dad's passing. My wife went and got a horrible painting made of me, my dad and my daughter, which made me cry because it was the thought. I mean, the painting looks like I mean, it looks scary. I can't hang it anywhere because I'm nightmares.

But is it out there somewhere? No, it's it's on the floor in my house right now. We're in the studio, different place. But yeah, it's on the floor. Even she you know, it's funny as I was like, I started joking because I know she doesn't like it either. I was we should hang it right here she's like no i thought you could take it to your studio in brooklyn she doesn't want to look at either but the crazy thing is the crazy this is how much me and john have in common first of all we're both beautiful men

secondly we're greek third we're both called underrated all the time which is hilarious which is true and then the fourth thing is his wife did the same fucking exact thing for him on Father's Day. What's weird is my wife put your parents in mine. But yeah, this one's pretty good. I like this one. But Caitlin, she also got me a painting, and it was quite expensive, I found out,

of Billy and I for Christmas and it, and it's not, and it doesn't look like Billy or me, but this is, that was a weird coincidence. Yeah. We're, we really,

I do, I do really feel a connection to you and I haven't talked to you in a few weeks and I was kind of missing you and I'm glad that we talked and you said, can you be on my podcast? And I said, no. And then we,

you know, it was a whole thing. You said, no, I won't deign to do that bullshit i'm so good on here and you're so good on all the other ones that you do and um i just i'm just i really am just a big fan i showed when i first discovered you i was i think i was at disney world and i was and i and I popped on the one of your bits about Walt Disney hating the Jews and just to hear you riff like that and you got off you said having a you were trying to say having a gila or something and you said something else and then you you said this is what cult

leaders I mean you were just you were like Robin Williams and I was like who is this guy and then I kept flipping and saw more stuff and then I saw my name I was like oh shit what's he gonna what's he gonna say about me it was before we knew each other and then you went on this run about my penis and you know it was all very complimentary and well yeah the well what it was was i think one time we were wondering over here if you and george clooney right because clooney is you know clooney is also a look. I think you two, you're talking about maybe the Michael Jordans of looks. Maybe you throw maybe Ilgis Elba in there. Who else can get in there?

There's Brad Pitt, maybe. Leo's on the cusp. There's a few guys, right? But it's like if you and Clooney, because you guys are like in your 50s and like that's the hottest to women. Women actually find it even hotter when you're in the 50s, right? So if you and Clooney went face to face, right?

And it was like, if we could put it in the Olympics, right? We can do this sport in the Olympics where it's like you went face to face and just stared at each other. Whoever got hard first loses. And we were trying to figure out who we had our money on.

I felt like Clooney would get hard first. He's hard now watching this. He's not in his 50s. He's already 60 something. He's 60 something. I'll tell you, I don't know him well at all. But I would listen. I know you're in your 50s.

My fans wanted to ask some disrespectful questions like, how often do you drink a drinkochlorone to stay looking that young they wanted to ask about certain things i said let me tell you some about greek genes baby johnny stamos is greek he's half greek so he looks 25 that's natural because of like we rub olive oil all over our bodies every day yogurt great yogurt so yeah yeah that question's boring um well because what does it i don't even know what it means you just look good you look really you look really young and i look really young too i'm i'm in my 40s but i look really good i have the john stamos um uh filter on the zoom that's stupid you know what i do i i used to say

that i drink the blood of Lori Loughlin but that joke not landing the way it used to so now I say Rob Lowe I say I drink the blood I did Rob Lowe's podcast the other day you know because and he was very funny and we just talked about the jokes that we do about each other and believe me like

you know growing up he was why are you buttoning your shirt up can you please unbutton that again I mean our viewership just dropped by 10, Why are you buttoning your shirt up? Can you please unbutton that again? Yeah, I mean, our viewership just dropped by 10,000 once you buttoned that button up. I just realized it was too much. I was doing something with Zach Vell. Dude, I lived in Miami for a year.

I had the whole shirt open after 12 months down there. Yeah, every month in Miami, you lose one more button. Marika. Let me ask you real quick. Rob Lowe, has he had any work done? I don't know. I haven't seen him in person in a long time. He looks great.

But we just talked about how we goof on each other. And what I was getting at was I didn't even think I was in the same league as Rob Lowe. It shouldn't even be in the same sentence. But people now compare us and stuff. I always say I drink the blood of Rob Lowe. His sons goof on him they'll when it's his birthday they'll post happy birthday dad we love you they'll post a picture of me and and i and he said that he does a bit in his one-man show where he's got a one-man show

uh where he um we're at the top he he says hey everybody i'm rob low and a couple people walk out or something he says i know you're expecting john stamos but you know you're stuck with me you want to know something funny john actually the way like obviously i'm i've always been a big fan i'm not just saying that you're great you're a great comedic actor you're very funny um but how i became really familiar with you as an adult was my ex-girlfriend, Jessie Mae, is like obsessed with you. It's like a running gag all the time where, you know, what does she say? Like, you know, she's always talking about like have mercy, John Stamos.

She's always like Photoshopping you in. And I did a joke. You don't remember this, but you can scroll back on Twitter. You sent me a message. This is very funny. So I said something like I made a joke because you were doing you were doing the yogurt commercials at that time. So I said a joke about the yogurt commercials. And then you sent me a joke back, which I hope was a joke. And I can actually find it. Huh? I said, die, you fucker. No, no. You said we greeks are supposed to support each other uh you shouldn't have said that joke about me now uh be a good greek boy or also i'm gonna

go your girlfriend oh well true story i wonder if i was mad at you i don't know i don't i don't know if you're mad i doubt it i think it was a joke i could have been yeah um yeah that greek just so she has she's very funny and you know i i don't think i've ever i haven't met her but the one thing i did she's always does this you know all that funny stuff and i did i did i did follow her thing through when her father was dying and i and i you know i lost both my parents and I was really touched but I really felt for her I mean and I think I dm'd her and just said you know I'm sorry and you know I sort of talked about my experience losing my dad and my mom and I think she appreciated that yeah well here's the thing you're a really nice guy which is surprising when I met you I was like oh my god you also remember

details about my life like you're a good you're a good is that because of Greek philoptimo or are you just are you familiar with philoptimo it like a greek thing that's in our culture it's very like i like i was i didn't even know it until somebody told me about it and then i was like that's kind of just been in my family like philotimo means like honor friendship uh loyalty um just doing honesty it's like doing things the right way. It's hard to translate, but it's a thing in the Greek culture that kind of, you know, has always been there. And the word for it is philotimo. Say it again? Philoptimo.

Philoptimo. Philoptimo. Yeah, well, my dad was that. My dad was that in spades. And I know your dad was too, right? He was. I was talking to you about your family. I'm sure you've talked about it on there.

And your father. And I was really moved by you. I was talking to you about your family. I'm sure you've talked about it on there. Your father. I was really moved by you. I'm obsessed with comics. Smart, great ones like you really interest me. I just love the science behind it. I love to figure out where your mind is going to go. How you get there. Setting up these Rolodex that you guys do in your brain there.

How you can access it. Of course, Ricklesickles and we could talk i want to talk about him because i found some cool video uh you know it was like my father towards the last 10 years of his life um so what was my point your point is our dads we talked about oh and i love that you that you quit and then you you you worked at a hospital and you helped people. Social worker. Social worker. I mean, that's – and you were a comic. And then you got shot in the ass and then you had PTSD about that, which makes sense, and you had to get through that.

And then you made it back out as a comic. And, you know, you work hard. You work hard. You're a hardworking guy. And I know you got that from your dad and your mom too. And I did for my dad. My dad was just exactly what you just said, that word. I can't pronounce it again. Piloptimo, yeah.

Piloptimo, yeah. Yeah. Because there's, that's why I think you and I were connected, you know, attracted to each other, you know, may I say, because. Yeah, platonically, to borrow another Greek term, platonically, yeah. I love how you talk about the Greeks and the Turks. Do you really have some Turks stuff or no? Yeah, no, I did my 23andMe.

My dad is from a tiny island called, that used to be called Imbros, which is now Turkish. The Archbishop Iakovos was actually from there too. So there's some Turkish DNA in there. And as people, a lot of people don't know the Ottomans, you know, enslaved the Greeks for 400 years. So maybe there was a little something bad that happened there. But it is what it is. You know, I'm yeah, I'm about 36 percent Turkish DNA.

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It's tough. I meet a lot of people. Yeah. You and Don Rickles did have like a special. I mean, how did that happen? How did you and Don Rickles did have like a special, I mean, how did that happen? How did you like, how did you and Don Rickles meet up? I, I, I asked myself, how did a lot of things happen in my life when I'm laid down at night? And I'm not even kidding. I'm like, I would never write a book because I got the only thing, I mean, all the interesting stuff would be, you know, probably not good for people

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or working with these great people, I just wouldn't have believed it. And Don is one of those. We were at a Greek restaurant. I invested in some Greek place in Santa Monica called Cafe Athens. And then he left and opened up Tony's Taverna in Malibu. Did you ever go there?

No. It was a great hang. And Tony was a great guy. He's still around, but he's not around anymore. And we were at this Greek restaurant. And he was with a big party over there. And I was with a bunch of people over here. And we were not interested in the people we were with.

And we happened to be sitting next to each other. And he was with like Rowan and Martin, all these great guys. And we just started talking, and that was it. You know, these older guys, and I've done it to a few, they love it when they're recognized by the up-and-comers or whatever I am. You know, you'll ask them to lunch,

and they'll go, yeah, for sure. You know, yes, I'd love to. I mean, Don was a little later. So we started hanging out and started talking. Were you a fan before you met him? Like you were obviously, you were familiar with him, right? Yeah, yes. I'd seen him a couple of times.

And yeah, I was into, I just, you know, maybe around, well, General Hospital, Sammy Davis was on. And my dad, and I said, who's Sammy Davis, yeah I remember that it said I don't know what to talk to him by talking about drums cuz Sammy was a drummer right so I did that and then I was it was great because I was um I was the host of this talent show and then Sammy was was singing at it and there was a whole band set up but I wasn't playing. And I was always bugging.

I was talking about drums. And I said, I was always talking to the producers about letting me play drums. I want to play drums. And they're like, no, no, no. And he says, okay, man. And then he walks back to the producer's booth and he comes back.

And I'll never forget, for some reason, he was very firm with me. He said, just do what I say, man. I'm like, what? He's like, just do what I say in the'm like what he's like just do what i say in the scene i said okay mr david jr and then he goes so i introduced him he goes up and he's talking about whatever he was talking about and he said um play a little music he said i'm blacky you play drums right and i'm like and they cut and it was total ad-lib and I was like what yeah and I get up he's playing piano and it was like that's it

I played drums on TV ever since the 35 years ago that's insane I heard that it was like you know back then they would have monitors in the in the at the network and and I heard like because we just went for like 20 minutes or so they didn't use it at all but all the like people were like who's that what's going on look at Blackie

and you know Sammy Davis and so and I got to hang out with him a little bit that was I think that was the beginning of my

love for the Rat Pack and that whole era you know I met I met Dean and one of the Beach Boys Carl Wilson

was married to one of Dean Martin's daughters and so and she was always saying like hey you want to go to Vegas to see dad I'm like I don't see that old guy what you know stupid but I did meet him once at I was going out to dinner the producer of General Hospital was taking me out to lunch to get me to stay and because I was ready to leave after a couple years why dear if you leave you'll never work again yeah okay well i'll take my shot and uh dean martin

was there and i went over and said hi it was pretty cool wait so you were you wanted to leave general hospital i wanted to be on a i wanted to be on sitcom i wanted to do comedy and getting back to all these comics i just i just i would rather someone walk away saying he was funny versus he was good looking or something i like you know i know i'm not the funniest guy but i like i think some people are surprised you were surprised that i was very you are very funny you've made me actually like gut laugh when you when we spoke on the phone yesterday and you were you were telling me about the about the mug and how you were trying to get trying to pee in it i mean i was cracking up like it was very funny yeah and and your comedic comedic acting is like not something like even

comedians can do well a lot of times a lot of times stand-up comics are not very good at that it takes a certain type of comedian to do that you do it very well i mean you're you're a funny guy and what surprised me even more is that dramatic you're very good in drama as well that big shot show was like drama i mean it had funny moments but yeah i mean you you're you're you're just a good actor dude you're good i'm not just fucking thank you it's taken a long time to get it. And I fought for legitimacy for a long time and then I just gave up. I was doing a play in New York, the last thing I...

with James Earl Jones, right? James Earl Jones is arguably the greatest living American actor out there. And I was on stage with him. Angela Lansbury was in it. And it was a Gore Vidal political play called Best Man man do you know do you know that movie or show i don't you know i know gorby doll obviously but i'm not familiar

with that yeah did you have any you know you guys do anything together you and core well we got it yeah we should have we should have researched gorby doll before stamos is coming on i mean the last reference you'd expect to hear when you got John Stamos on is Gore Vidal, but it happened. So my point to all that was that I was doing this play and it was getting great reviews and everything was great and I'm working with this great actor

and I walk out to sign autographs and it's Uncle Jesse, I am, have mercy. I'm like, fuck it, that's it, I'm done,

I don't care anymore. But wait, let's go back to the Rat Pack guys. So Sammy thing, so we became, and then Frank, so, and I guess we'll talk about the podcast at some point you're gonna that's the big thing okay so frank you will just

cut all this shit out for the last well i mean i'm only going to cut it out because your face is turned and people aren't tuning in to see the back of your neck no i mean um the last hour so yeah we're gonna cut the whole thing yeah start from this so the so i went to see so my dad a part of my love too became from my father because he loved frank and and i loved elvis and he would say i he said you know what just go listen to frank i said dad you're right he's cool what do you think about elvis he was like eh drug addict you know um he didn't he didn't care so but so then i really did a deep dive onto Frank, and I was like,

oh, this motherfucker's got it, man. And he was playing in Orange County, and I leave this part out of the story a lot, but I was dating Paula Abdul at the time. Go ahead. What's that? You all right? What's that? I'm okay, yeah. Oh, I didn't didn't hear what do you want me to how was it great so so we go to the concert and um i i i we caught got all the publicists and

said can we you know can we meet frank sinatra um at some point let me just ask you real quick when you dated paula abdul what was it like dating someone you knew you had more musical talent than even though she was a musician that's not nice that's not nice sorry i'm just kidding i'm just kidding i said would you have anything and you've looked at me with this blank stare would you google some jokes yeah i just googled it i'm just kidding i'm just joking she she was the biggest star at that time. She was huge. And people were knocking me down to get to her. Her and whoever was the studio singer for her were big then.

She sang. I'm kidding. John, come on. I'm kidding. Don't joke. So, so we go to the concert. And they said, they said, look, if Mr. Sinatra wants to meet you, he'll let you know. I'm like, what the fuck does that mean?

You know, like, is he going to smoke cigarettes? So we go, and we just forget it, you know, and I didn't even tell my parents. And then Rickles opens up, and I didn't really know him well at that time. I didn't know him. And he opens up, and then there's intermission before Frank comes out, and someone taps me on the shoulder and says, Mr. Sinatra, we'll see you now. What? So we all piled backstage. Now,

my mom has been telling this story for years that Frank Sinatra hit on her on her honeymoon. And she said, how dare you? I'm a married woman. And she had to tell Frank that story. We went backstage and she had a couple of wines in her.

B-lines to Sinatra. Jilly Rizzo gets ready to tap. I mean, he stopped her, but I think he was going to throw her to the ground. I said, Jilly, Jilly, Jilly, Jilly. So we almost lost mom that night. But we took some pictures with Frank. It was great. I have like three pictures of him.

Did she get to Frank? Did she get to confront him about it or no? She didn't get there. I think she did, but sort of as they were pulling her out. There's no way he remembered, right? I mean, that's just one of the many as he would say broads broads um and then uh i so i have a few pictures and you could it's just him pointing to the cat i remember he was like turn it sideways do it over this way our heart you know he's just pointing the whole time in these pictures so this show show is, Frank goes out, he's great. End of the show, Rickles comes out,

and as these old-timers do, these great classic entertainers, they introduce everybody in the audience. Tony Danza, Paula Abdul, and then Rickles is doing it. He says, Stamos, and I didn't stand up, I think, and he said he's probably in the cheap seats. He's probably in the grass. In fact, he's probably smoking grass.

Sinatra grabs the microphone from my handguard and says, smoke one for me, Johnny. That's amazing. Yeah. That's amazing. My dad, you don't really like that story, huh? No, I did love the story. And I also like I love that that is how you got into the rack pack was through Sammy Davis, like meeting Sammy Davis playing drunk. I mean,

that's, that's an insane thing to have happened in your life. He is, would you like, were you aware, what was he like when you were around Sammy? Could like, you feel the talent because when it comes to talent,

he was a small man with a big talent. Yeah. You know, the, the thing back then to you is there was no YouTube. Right. And one of my greatest moments was watching, showing Don YouTube and getting to go back and see all his, you know, his performances on, you know, Carson stuff, because he hadn't seen him ever, you know.

So there was, so I didn't really, I didn't tell later, I really didn't know the true, you know, talents of Sammy. I didn't really hang out with him much but I went to a few shows and he invited me to the Greek I remember one time he and he was dying he had cancer you know and he he came out in a cape I remember I showed you like a cape and a whole thing that you know there was black black a where and we go over any and he pours me an orange crush and he pours himself an orange crush he says he says he says the cigs and the dope I don't miss. The booze I miss.

All right, Sam. That's a great Sammy. It's the only impression I have. That was great. But so Don was, my dad died, you know, he was young. How old was your dad? My dad made it to 91, thank God. He made a long way.

But did you get to hang out with Sinatra more after that? Did you get to know him at all? No. No, how was that? Yeah. But my dad died at, he was 64, 65. So my point was that I was, and I was younger, so I was sort of gravitating towards you know

father figures like like jack jack klugman was one of my first ones i did a a show with him called you again after the soap operas and then gary marshall i met on that he's the one who got me into full house and said you gotta have a catchphrase and then um uh because you were saying a fonzi catchphrase yesterday, I thought was pretty gay. What were you saying? Exactamundo. Huh? Was it an Exactamundo?

Yeah. Right. I had a very popular character named Maurice who had a catchphrase, Daset, which is now like it's gone through the culture so many times. I don't even think people know where it originated. There's like a golfer now who's blown up on YouTube saying, but he's like doing my character. It's hilarious. That character got so big at one point.

It was like JLo wanted to meet me. Pitbull was a fan. It was like Beyonce and her dancers were watching it. And like, nobody knows who, who it is. It's me. God damn it. No, I could never, I could never do that character nowadays

because the climate has changed, which is stupid. No, give me a little bit of her. What would she say to me? If she was doing this, we actually should have done this interview. If I'm talking to John Stamos, are you kidding me? This is like a dream come true right here. Now, let me tell you something, John. I know that you're married.

I know you got somebody there in the house, but what are the chances that maybe I could slip it? Like, you could just give me a stipend, like a little, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'll just suck your dick on the side is what I'm trying to say. We don't need to tell the press. I'll sign whatever NDAs we need to sign. I just need somebody to pay for my tits, and you could give me a little bit of that full house money.

Shit, I don't even need that full house money. Give me some of that full house money, which I know is a lot less. See, you riff like that. I love that character. You folks listening right now, we were going to do this, me and you, we were going to do that interview when you were in L.A., but then you never showed up. Well, COVID, I'm a little nervous because of the baby,

but hopefully maybe we'll do it someday. Who knows? Maybe we'll do it. I don't know. If you still want to of the baby, but hopefully maybe we'll do it someday. Who knows? Maybe we'll do it. I don't know. If you still want to talk to me after this, maybe we'll do it. Wait, let's keep going on. Who were we talking about?

Rick, Rickles, Sammy, Rickles, your dad. And Don became that. And it was a time too, when,

when I met him, people were not, I think people thought he was dead or something. They didn't know that he was still fucking funny. I mean, God dang it. He, you know, and I studied him, studied him. And I, he did one record. It was called Hello Dummy. And one year he said, what do you want for your birthday? I said, I want to sit down and listen to the record. And I want to ask you a question. No. I said,

Don, you asked me what I want to know. I don't want to know. I don't, I don't care. I don't want, I said, when was the last time you heard it? I'm 35 years old. I don't want to hear it. Please. Oh, all right. We sat in his house, the beach house. I'll't want to. I said, when was the last time you heard it? I'm 35 years old. I don't want to hear it. Please. All right. We sat in his house, the beach house. I'll never forget it. Put it on. And I kept stopping.

I said, how'd you do that? How'd you do that? I don't know. I'm doing Rickles. I'm just doing Rickles. But just to watch him listen to it, and he was laughing. He did this bit where he, you know, towards the end of the show, he's goofing on all these people and doing his, you know, doing his thing. And then he remembered like 30 names. Jimmy, Bobby, boobie, boobie, boobie.

I was like, how do you do that? I had a great time doing that with his son. Then, of course, his poor son passed away. And then I was around a lot after that even more, maybe as something like that. But at Reagan's inaugural, Web webster the kid from uh what's his name emmanuel lewis was introducing dom i remember that i asked him i said where did you get the joke was do you remember it was uh he the kid said and ladies and gentlemen you know the the minute the the mean from this and the uh the i can't remember that the intro

i'm fading if you guys can hear um uh you know don rickles and don walks through the audience and right before he don goes to grab the mic right before don gets the mic uh webster says be funny and just hand it to him and he turns and says well there's one little black kid who's never going to play basketball. And I'm just repeating his joke. No, yeah. That joke, where did you, did you write? He goes, no, I just came up with it.

He never had writers. He would study, though. You'd go to his house during that. He'd have a lot of magazines, and he would look at all, watch a lot of news. Because you could walk into a restaurant with him, and he would see some rando celebrity, Suzanne Somer, not even that famous, and he would know their credits and stick on them. We'd walk into a restaurant with him.

First of all, everybody stops. And then he just goes, as he's going to his table, ba-boom, ba-boom, what's your heritage, son? Bing, boom, boom. One time I was on, I got to be on, you see, I light up when I get to talk about Don. I got to be on The Tonight Show with him. And you know,

you can't, I mean, to try to go toe-to-toe, to do anything with him, he'll just bury you, right? But I thought I'd be clever and go, you know, one time, and this is true, one time I was in the audience in Vegas. I would go to Vegas a lot with him he'd want me to come up and we'd hang out and and he you know he does jokes is like the there's the you know Chinaman you know it looks like a beaver eating a

chair and the Mexican guy was here and the African-American you know and then the lights go on there's no Chinese person there's no black person he's just pointing during the jokes, you know? And he said, yeah, you got me, Stamos. I found this. It was good though. Came to my, I'm gonna show it to you. Can I share a screen here?

That was good, yeah, I think you can. Yeah, I could. I mean, let me get the porn off. He was so quick, man. I mean, he's like a god to comedians. I mean, he was, and he was, yeah, he just did it into his 90s. I mean, he kept going. He was he's did it into his 90s i mean he kept going he was still

performing in vegas into his 90s his body gave out on him you know or you know earlier he um but but we did this documentary that um john landis directed and when when that came out people went like oh shit he's still alive oh he's still funny And then I got to see it firsthand, and it was so beautiful. All these people from, you know, Robin Williams to Eddie, like everybody. I went over there one day, and he showed me this big vodka thing. Robin Williams sent me this, you know, and Johnny Depp just called me.

I started to get jealous after a while because everybody got him. You know, everybody got it after, certainly, I think the documentary helped because they saw, but keep talking i'm gonna find something for you yeah no that's uh he don rickles is known as like one of the gods i mean when you talk about the great stand-up comedians don rickles has to be in that conversation you know as one of the greats of all time especially just the longevity and how quick i mean that was

his style he was just quick-witted off the top of his head, riffing, doing crowd work and people would go there. That's the thing is like, now there's this politically correct culture and everything. But what people don't understand is people would go there and want to get made fun of by Don Rickles because everyone signed that social contract knowing,

Hey man, this is just comedy. He's just having a good time. And it's a shame to me a little bit that that kind of understanding is a little gone now. It's like, Hey man, we're just joking around. How do you feel about how, I mean, do you, do you feel some of it's warranted? Cause I think some of it is, you know, I think some of it can be hurtful but but what would tell me you talk about it yeah it's um yeah i mean you know that but that's that's what makes comedy comedy it's a tightrope walk like you want to go there and have that element of danger you want to hear a

comedian say something edgy where you're going you know that's what you go to see you go to see the things you can't say because when you're outside of a comedy club or outside of the context of a podcast or whatever the comedian's world is, yeah, those things are inappropriate. But when you're in that world, that's what you're coming to see because there's a lot of these sort of kernels of truth attached to that stuff, which comedians stay with. You know, I think it was Chris Rock that said it best is like comedians are kind of like the woman with big tits like we just get away with shit because like we say stuff that other people say and get away with it because we just we coat it with a little bit

of charisma and um that's the art of it the art is kind of like the kid who was funny in school wasn't funny because he was saying the right thing at the right time. It was because he was saying the wrong thing at a lot of times the wrong time. He was just doing it with charisma. So it's like, that's what we do. So I do think that that's a shame a little bit now that people have sort of forgotten that that's the context. The comedy is like, we're supposed to say the wrong thing. I'm supposed to break john stamos

balls i mean this is a i'm a comedian this isn't i'm not fucking larry king this isn't inside the actor's studio i mean i'm here to find out about your glue god no i'm just kidding you know i'm just kidding but that's the truth what's unfortunate to you guys is that that the line you know the line has moved right i mean you know stuff that you could do 10 15 years ago i know i'm you know i call i hosted a saget's you know roast uh you know the comedy central roast which most probably was one of the cleanest yeah i remember that and it was amazing and he's one of the cleanest comedians around bob saget i'm sorry he doesn't do anything but it was you know it was you know if to think about it now it was a

lot of very very inappropriate jokes it didn't hold it didn't it didn't you know it didn't what's what they call evergreen or something it didn't hold up well um and it's it's you know to watch it now less me but i had a couple in there that was like oh god why would i but it's because but you know because it's comedy know, it's a roast. You can't go up there and say nice things. You know, the thing about roasts, I think they got out of controls. Like roasts are supposed to be like the Rat Pack used to do them.

Very good friends sitting around there tearing each other up. And then it became sort of this, you know, TV show, which is fine, I guess. But then when you have like people who are comedians who don't know the person going up and roasting them, that's when it kind of it lost me a little bit

because it's supposed to be a private thing. It started, you know, as that. And so you're supposed to say at a roast, the most fucked up shit. That's the that's the point of it. But but but yeah, well, if it was private, I think that's one thing. But but when it's you know, when it was on...

Did you get any shit for that? Did you get any shit for some of the jokes? It was a little recently, you know, a couple things popped up, you know, but, you know, we just ignored it. It wasn't really... But there was, you know, anyway, it doesn't hold up, you know, from however long... I'll be the judge of that. Well, you can watch it. I'd like to take a peek.

I bet you there are great jokes. And I love those most funny. But I remember getting some scripts and i was like i'm not going to say this i'm not going to i couldn't you know and already lang was supposed to be there and he didn't show up i think he was having you know some of his issues then and um uh somebody uh he had a date with some drugs yeah um susie esper's that her name? From, from uh- Curb. Curb, yeah. She took over. And they had me just saying, they just took all the fat to ugly jokes

and put them to her. And I was like, I'm not gonna, I don't even know this woman. This is terrible. Right, right. And I had one and I probably just felt so bad. And, and I got ripped on more than, I was okay with it, but I got, what made me mad was like,

I ripped on everybody and they ripped on me and it was fine. And but I got what made me mad was like I ripped on everybody and they ripped on me and it was fine and then they cut out a lot of my stuff so there's these guys are just pounding me the dead guy Greg drawled or whatever yeah um but there was some funny stuff uh great comic by the way Greg drawled one of the best he was he was amazing yeah but you can't do and you know a lot of times they would tell people, like, Gilbert, no 9-11 jokes. Okay. Boom. No jokes about Pamela Anderson's kid dying or whatever it was or somebody dying in the pool.

And they went right for it. That's a tough thing, at least right now. My point to all this was that I don't know if Don – obviously Don couldn't have come around during this climate. And he was starting to feel it a little bit towards the end, and he didn't get it. And I remember having dinner after a show, and his wife said, Don, you have to stop saying F-A-G that way. He used to put it with, he would say, faggot werewolf or faggot Mau Mau pilot.

I'm not saying, I'm not using that word. We get it. You're quoting what he would say. Right. Quoting what he said. And after dinner, his wife said, you have to stop saying that word. He says, why? It's funny. She said, I don't care.

It's really hurtful. And he said, well, I didn't even say it. John, how many times did I say it? About seven, Don. Shut up. So he didn't, but he didn't, he wasn't, and he bought it back so great, always at the end. He had those beautiful moments. And I think, and they were very heartfelt, but he didn't, he wasn't, he bought it back so great always at the end, you know, he had those beautiful moments. And I think, and they were very heartfelt where he said, you know, he talked about Will Rogers, you know, and he does a quote about, you know, you're all big men to me. Like everybody was, I can't remember the quote, but, and he would always buy, he'd always buy back.

He had a, so at my 50th birthday, he had a run here. I think it's spread out throughout this thing, but do you want to see it? I've never shown this to anybody. I just saw it. I do. Do you still go see Saget and everything? I know you're still friends with those guys, Saget.

Yeah, do I see him? What do I mean see him? Do you still watch him do stand-up? I haven't in a while just because he hasn't done i know he's out now so you are you canceling dates i just canceled a few dates yeah in texas in florida i want to wait till it all cools down a little bit yeah i don't have to see you then good okay yeah no but i love when you if you would at some point i would are you kidding i love it i love i just love what you guys do and I can't do it, but I love the mechanics of it.

I love the, the way you put jokes together, the way you, and again, Don was. When you were on Full House, did you ad lib at all? Was it like any,

how much of it was writers and how much of it was, like, was you going, like taking it and making it your own? Well, you know,

as the show went on, you know, we would do more of that but i learned i to be honest with you i learned so much so much about comedy from bob and dave and they were really funny motherfuckers and they still are dave you know do you ever see dave in the beginning he was dude yeah anybody man i i before they hired him i went to see him i i did the screen test with him i said he's okay they said well you got to go see his standup. And,

and we went to the improv and he did, you know, two hours of voices and he did, you know, he did this 10, 15 minute, um, Wizard of Oz thing.

And he, you know, he was incredible. And Bob was, is just ripping fast. We're talking about fast guy and, and have Rolodex, you know?

And so I watched how they would do all that. but they would do all that. But they would, the difference was, and I would get frustrated because I came at the show as an actor. So I was trying to make the scenes work and the emotions work. And where's the sweet moment? Where's the this?

And they just wanted to fuck around and make the crew laugh. And I said, guys, put it in. Who cares about Wiley, the guy pulling the cord? Put it in the script, you know? And it would make me crazy, you know. But, you know, we got through it, obviously. Well, that was probably a good balance.

The two of you, like, they probably learned a little bit from you and you probably learned a little bit from them because you were coming from those two backgrounds. Yeah. That's what probably made, I mean, the show was a massive hit. I mean, you guys were all very funny on it. And it's good to, that's interesting to know behind the scenes how that maybe kind of played a role

into what made it such a success was you kind of influenced them a little bit from the acting side. They influenced. I don't think they got it from me. I don't think they ever, I mean, I'm kidding. They did, but.

I'm sure they did. They didn't, yeah. Well, because I mean, you guys were like, that was the team. It was the three of you. Yeah. And we're doing, you're supposed to, you guys were like, that was the team. It was the three of you. Yeah. And we're doing, we're supposed to, you know,

I was saying no to this for so long, one of these personal appearances at this, you know, how they did these cons, these mega cons and comic cons and stuff. And this guy has been, who I know really well, has been bugging me forever. And I said, well, you know what? Maybe if I do it with Bob and Dave, it would be fun. So we scheduled one in, you know, right before if I do it with Bob and Dave, it'll be fun. So we scheduled one right before COVID.

And of course, we canceled it. And we rescheduled it. And it's supposed to be in a couple of weeks in Orlando. The three of us are going to go together. But I hope it's going to be safe. I don't know. Yeah, it's a hot spot. I'm really curious to know, how do guys stay friends?

Hollywood is such a tough business in that regard, like egos, all that. You guys remain friends. Was that a challenge? This is your first real question. I'm actually very curious to know that. We just had it. Magic happened on that show.

It wasn't, you know, it wasn't like, you know, the greatest. I mean, the reviews for even that show, Fuller House reviews. I did a bit on Seth Meyers. I'm going to be on there this Monday. But a couple of years ago when Fuller House came out and I read all the bad reviews for it. And they were real. Seth was great. It was a really funny bit where I read some.

One of them compared it to necrophilia, is you know i'm exceptionally uh one said it was like a bad porn without the you know without the porn porn parody yeah um so that was tough and but full house they said wouldn't last till thanksgiving so we were still on whatever 35 years later but it uh um, magic happened, like all the stars lined, you know, we just had that chemistry, and we really did love each other,

and we still do, I don't know how we, we've made efforts to stay friends, but we were, we were just, we're just family, I don't know how we wouldn't, you know,

we get frustrated with each other, I think towards the end of Fuller House, it was like time to, you know, the girls were like, okay, goodbye guys, we don't need you, and move House, it was like time to, you know, the girls were like, okay, goodbye guys, we don't need you

and move on. It was my idea to do that show and every time I complained about it, my agent was like, it's your fault. And that was a show too.

We pitched that everywhere, Fuller House, by the way, like for a year and a half. Pass, pass, eh, we'll let you do a pilot,

maybe, pass. And we took it to Netflix and I said, Netflix, never, because Netflix was just starting to take off and they bought it they got they saw it they got it and that and it was huge on there huge for them yeah so Rickles I had to talk one time I remember talking to him about I think I heard it from Sarah Silverman schmuck bait he didn't know the term but he invented it you know it's like I'm you know I mean this from

my heart you're going nowhere, Greek. You know, he'll suck you in, and then boom. Right, right, right, right, right. Here's a, I'm going to play you a little of this. And this is sort of a, and I can send it to you guys if you want to show some of this. Please do, yeah. It's three hours, three and a half, no. It's 18 minutes, but they put his roast sort of throughout,

so I'll just kind of punch. But when he, well, you'll see, I think he starts off, I haven't seen this in a long time, with something sweet. Can you see that and hear it? Yep. I don't know if you can hear it all right. I can see it too. From my heart, from my heart,

Barbara and I have known John a long time. And I tell you, we're married 48 years. He always sits around with me and we talk about love and marriage and all that jazz. I try to be a friend as well. A second father, so to speak. But I tell you, God has given this man

a great deal of dignity, a great deal of love, and a style that God can never take from him. He puts his arms around you and you know his love. I love him and I love all of you that came to tonight to pay your respects to a gentleman. Really, God will bless you forever Wow That was clearly the nice part I'm crying right now That's incredible man

He was that Let's see how many rips He tore into my mother I've never showed anyone this So this is kind of That is incredible Thank you for sharing that with us Because Comedians are really sensitive people underneath

and i think that you know we developed that thick skin uh maybe we were made fun of as kids or a way to sort of not get bullied but underneath that's amazing to see it him in a moment like that being earnest i'll show you a little more. I loved you. But what you just said was great. You know, I had the great, Howard Stern said that, you know, Don was his number one influence and was always trying to get him into the show

and never could. Don didn't, he didn't get Howard at first, but then he did, but he also didn't wake up early enough. You know, these guys. Right. And so I finally, after I arranged I arranged it and I we didn't tell them and I just said I was in town and I am dating this new girl and I wanted I wanted to bring her in at the end of the show this okay come in you know towards the end so I

came in and I said hey guys hey I said I wanted to I got up this girl I'm dating real fast I want to show you you know I was living in New York was doing a play or something and they said okay uh bring her in and rickles walks in and they just and artie was there at the time and he just he stopped eating for the first time in a long time and howard stood up and he took his glasses it was the most and it's on youtube it's a great great interview and what they connected on howard was so respectful and what they connected on was what you said they both have were made fun of in school and it came out of insecurities and and depression and um and they had to be funny and it was it's a really interesting interview to watch the two of those guys talk

it's amazing to see that what you just showed us because i a lot of people probably don't know how close you guys were you and don rickles i told you it was uh he's a he's a he's one of the heroes that we all have and like yeah i um jimmy kimball did one of those mean tweets and i had tweeted something about him oh that's right yeah yeah yeah don rickles looks like yoda and he read it and that's one of the highlights of my career just to hear my words out of his mouth was as amazing he didn't love comics you you know, he didn't love, and he was, he was also, he was great because he, he would say, I'd say, oh, let me bring so-and-so to dinner, like some old, like, like some old Gary Marshall or somebody. Gary was the greatest, but he's like, no,

bring, bring some of your younger. He wanted the young energy. He wanted young talent around him, you know. Right. Yeah. We talked on the phone. We talked on the phone for hours. I just paid attention to him when a time when people weren't, I think. Right. You know, I became close with his family.

And his beautiful wife died a couple months ago, Barbara. In fact, I think it's her birthday today or tomorrow. So sad. They had this great love story. And just because they didn't look like, you know, Elizabeth taylor and and burton or something that kind of went unnoticed but they were together a long time and you'd say that you'd say to barbara how you doing barbara we're good it was never i'm good it's we're good we're doing good you know there was special people in my life and i'm i'm just so grateful that i've had these opportunities i don't know what i did to deserve them maybe it was a good in another life or something to just you know but it's it's maybe this was a 50th birthday i can't i haven't showed anybody the beach boys showed up which was

you know um it's pretty great maybe because like you're just a genuine guy because a lot of these things happen very organically which is amazing well. Well, some. Some I forced myself into. The Beach Boys, they couldn't get rid of me. I just came on stage one time, and that was it. Let me see if Tom Jones showed up at this. Wow, look at this. Yeah. This is the thing.

Rickles would. Jeff Ross was there, too. Who's that? Knoxville. That's Johnny Knoxville, yeah. But let me get to Saget. You know, would do... But he did bits.

Hold on a second. Here's Don again. Let's see him. Jeff Ross with Corn Rose. Don is a very handsome man. As I know, I've been with him many, many times. He was in, he would stoop an elephant in that challenge. He just gets up in the morning.

What are you listening for? Get out of it. You're in the will. Forget about it. Dude, he had timing. I mean, he just knew how to hit it i mean one of the funniest guys that's ever lived it's amazing it's amazing to see this dinner dancing and roasting with roasting circled in my name next to it i mean what's the corn roast

what are you doing jeff well he was getting ready for i think he was doing a roast i think it was getting ready for roast or something but was he roasting alan iverson bo derrick um i don't think that you know don didn't love comics and it took me a long time to bring bro you know get him to like bob and he really didn't at first he he ended up loving jeff ross but he didn't like him at first because he was doing sort of his you know his thing his he didn't like it and um so it took me a while but jeff so jeff gets up there and he brings these notes and stuff and then i hear this so and then i i think rickles just ha just you know very backhandedly slams him for having notes oh this is great he had notes and then he had he had don i'm

jeff it's a really funny joke. It's circled in my name next to it. What? Now, what an honor to put on a tuxedo in August and do a roast on a Monday. What a treat. Oh, I thought there were more jokes, but he did some. He said, well, here. Oh, yeah, I see.

So Don says, so Don. So. You know, if you notice, I don't have notes you hear that yes yes the real roast master is gary just love gary marshall he was my hero too man you know just to work with him but let's let's show you a little more Don. He. Yeah, that's my mom, my beautiful mother. How old were you when your mom died? My mom's still alive.

She just has dementia and she's she's at home. Yeah. How long has that been happening? It's been for a long time now. I mean, you know, this she's been in the home now for six years, but the decline was long and brutal. It took a lot. It took a lot. I don't know how you do it, man.

It was rough. It was rough for a long time. Jesse knows. Me and him have been working together forever. Jesse passed out about two hours ago. He's a massive Howard Stern fan, so he knows you from Stern, all your appearances.

Let's finish this Takaka Mamie thing. You know that wonderful mother? Well, I don't. God bless you. You're a sweet, wonderful mother. That's my mom. Beautiful daughters

and a handsome son. You're a stunning mother. Oh, this must have been... She must have loved this. You can see she's all lit up. All of a sudden, I met her, a humble, beautiful mother, and right away she comes on like a Nazi.

Shut up! Just cool it. Just forget the booze and just relax. You know, I mean, it was... Yeah. It was just a great, great night. So did this... Your love for these guys, your connection to them, obviously, through Rickles,

starting out with Sammy Davis Jr. Now you have this oh look at that Tom Jones wailing what is that all about I mean yeah I mean yeah you got I mean can you make me more famous already god damn it you know everybody how long is this gonna take you think I'm being friends with you because I like you? What do you want me to do? Make you famous? Just make me famous. You're already famous. You're already talented.

So let's talk about the podcast, man. Let's talk about your mom first. Okay. So how long she's been about? This is too long. I'm sure. No, dude. The podcast doesn't have.

There's no such thing. People love it. Are you sure? I'm positive. You're in my doesn't have there's no such thing. People love it. Are you sure? I'm positive you're in my world now hurting themselves physically. Are you kidding me? This is like one of the most amazing podcasts ever made. We just watched private footage from your party. I mean, of Don Rickles.

This is exceptional right here. I don't want it to end. Well, it's not going to. It's not going to end. We're going to do this for four. I will break the record. break the record what did you ask about oh no you should be your poor mother how so she's had it for six that's got to be so i mean my dad when he he had a heart attack and he he was in a coma for six months but he couldn't talk and i don't know if that was better or if it would have been better if he went faster i mean how, how do you feel about? It's rough, man. It's it's one of the rough, you know, only people who've gone through it.

No, it's hard to convey to someone what it's like because it starts very gradually. It starts with her forgetting things, then leaving the stove on, then the wandering. And, you know, yeah, it affected my life in such a big way for so long. And getting getting her to a place was difficult. She was a very strong, stoic Greek woman. And she would she would fight it. She'd leave notes everywhere. And it took a toll on me and my brother. And it was gradual and it sucked. It affected my life in every way. And it gave it was a really tough time and it was hard to focus on comedy. I remember, for example. Things like it's very difficult, but like I'd be going on stage and she'd be calling me on the phone, leaving the same message over and over again.

So, wow. Now I'm getting I'm feeling it. I mean, this is why. Thanks, John. This is is uh this is uh yeah i mean what are we doing here well you can only do dick jokes so much let's get to the real meat here man yeah we haven't done many dick in our defense we haven't done many except for me and the guests you have on here they're funny but it's you know it's the guy from vegas who was talking about crack and That's enough already. Who is that? Oh, Sergio, yeah. But wait, wait, wait.

So now, so let me ask you this. And I know one of your brothers is mentally challenged, right? Is that it? Correct. Brain injury. No, my other brother. Okay, so wait, wait. So you have two brothers, and one is?

One is brain injured. So the doctor back then, they were using forceps a little bit more. So when he was born. Yeah. And he's the one who had a leg operation recently? That's right. Yeah. He broke his ankle. He slipped on the ice, broke his ankle, and he had to go yeah i was in the hospital for a long time yeah where is he now my life is just constant that it's been well yeah i mean you wake up in the morning and and as what i'm getting to is as is this what has made is this what makes you funny is this where the call like you i think so yeah i think that's

exactly where it comes from i think that's exactly where it comes from i remember when i was younger just like he was he's 10 years older than me, my middle brother, but like just having to navigate, you know, kids can be very cruel. And so just having to navigate that with having a brother who was a brain injured. Um, yeah, you have to, uh, you have to learn how to defend yourself somehow. And comedy is a tool to disarm. So it must come from that. I also remember we used to share a room and, um,

you know, I, I just, uh, the first person I made laugh was him. I would, we would stay up late. I was scared to sleep and,

I would just make him laugh. And that would, I would, that would make me feel better. And I would eventually go to sleep. It was a very strange way to grow up. Yeah. What jokes would you do?

Like fart jokes and stuff? Like what would you do, like fart jokes and stuff like what would you what was your early comedy stuff? I would do impressions of my mother crack up like what? And because yes, she had. Yeah, nice. It was like my first comedy set, which I'll send to you. My first five minutes I have it like it was like three jokes about my mother. And I would do

her voice yeah you know she was she she's from greece she immigrated from there so she always had the accent and i would crack my brother up i'd imitate her and her sister and uh we would just uh that's that i slept in the room with him my earliest memories of being in a room with him and trying to understand how he was my older brother but yet in some way my younger brother so it was a kind of a big responsibility to put on my shoulders my parents had their own business so they they were off working so it was just like me figuring they were lawyers my my my parents were lawyers yeah and they had a private practice together and then my mother went and was a human rights lawyer for the United Nations. And that's where you get your heart from in your in your.

Yeah. Like I was the kid going around with like when kids were dressed up on Halloween in costumes. I was rolling around with like a UNICEF collecting coins. All our Christmas cards were from the United Nations. My mother actually wrote she headed up this ad hoc. It was called Unitar. And she's actually quoted very often in international law because she she headed up this project called Unitar and ended up writing this book called Law and Status of the Child, which is like a seminal piece on international rights for for children. My mom was the woman who would scream at women for hitting their kids in public. I remember this one time on the train. I mean, you know, this was the 80s in New public. I remember this one time on the train. I mean, you know, this was the 80s in New York. It was a tough time. And this big black woman hit her kid on the subway. And my mother was like small. You know, she's like five, five. And she would

turn into this lion. Like she got up and started screaming at this woman. And I was just scared. I'm like, you know, you're just scared. And and i'm telling you like the way my mom turned into this lion the people would like get meek and she did it all the time i mean i have stories about that i mean there's another story but i don't want to get too much into it but no no this is it finally we're getting some some something interesting yeah because we're talking about something interesting me now i'm kidding yeah imagine that my life being more interesting than yours it's like you hung out with frank sinatra i hung out with drew and jesse today oh that's okay go ahead come on tell me about this this is an interesting story so my mom um

you know she's from crete right and she uh she was there during the occupation when the Germans occupied. And so her friend from from the village back then, Polizois, rest his soul. They met up 40 years later in America. You know what? There was no Google, Facebook or anything like that back then. So they just randomly ran into each other in Times Square one day, like 40 years later, became close friends. And we used to go stay at his house in Crete. And so I was like a little kid maybe eight nine years old and across the street from his house in crete on the island of

crete in greece was this guy who had a family like three four kids and you know in greece like it's like you know it's on the equator so people kind of especially in crete they live kind of inside and outside so like the windows were always open this was before air conditioning was big over there and i would watch him all night i would like it was a voyeur i'd watch from paulie zeus's house into his house and he was beating his kids like beating them and i watched a couple nights i was kind of too scared or didn't understand to say anything and then one night i couldn't take it because he was beating his kid and this is a true story and i just went and i told my mom and it was like two in the morning i always had trouble sleeping my mom in her nightgown just got up ran out into the middle

of the street started yelling at this man from the middle of the street and in Greek. So I don't know what she was saying, but I mean, foaming at the mouth and yelled at him. And he was like very meek and embarrassed. And after that, I would watch every night. He never hit his kids after that. But what a hero. What a hero your mom is. That's what she was like.

That's what my mom was like. I mean, you know, difficult in other ways. Let's not, you know, this is send me that. Send me the part me the the part of the book you're talking about that that or the the stuff that they wrote about her in the book i'd rather see that than you to tell it i'll send you that it's called law and status of the child i want to i want to hear that well so it's got to be just triply heartbreaking to see such a powerful woman that's done so much and helped so many people. Sorry, helpless in this, you know, stuck under this disease.

I'm sorry. It was rough. It's a rough disease, man. And it's gradual and it's long. It's like Chinese water torture. And yeah, I'd come home and, you know, the stove would be on. She'd be upstairs like the pot would be burning. And it started there.

And then, you know, then she starts to forget who you are. And now she doesn't know who anybody is. So it's a really brutal thing. And your dad, they got divorced when you were younger? They got divorced when I was like a freshman in high school. then she starts to forget who you are and now she doesn't know who anybody is. So it's a really brutal thing. They got divorced when you were younger. They got divorced when I was like a freshman in high school. So yeah, my dad was the greatest. My dad was just the greatest guy.

Was he funny? He was funny. He started to get a little long winded as he got older and he'd hold people's ears. That's where you are. Really? That's so weird. But he was just the greatest man my dad was the greatest and um yeah he's he'll always be my hero my dad and uh you know what i think about

maybe you thought about and my dad you know again died a lot too way too early he's my best friend he was my best man at the wedding he uh my first one. You know when kids talk about when you look at your parents or your dad, because you always see them as a superhero and they're invincible. And then that moment when you go, oh, he's just a human. They're just a human. I never had that with my dad. My dad was always bigger than life to me. He was always the coolest in any room anywhere and he

he like your mom he was probably like your mom he he was like a lion he had the heart of a lamb my mom would say but he had he was like a lion you know the roar of a lion like a real greek um and he was he would the way he treated people is what i think one of the big things i got from him i mean he owned fast food restaurants but he would treat the bus boy the same way he'd treat the best customer. And, you know, I think that really stuck with me. You know what, man? So nice to your crew there. I would call one fat and the other one, you know.

That's to the T, my dad. My dad was the guy who was like, you go to the supermarket. They all loved him. He knows everybody. He was, my dad, that's one of the things he said to me once. He goes, you know, the world, they all loved him. He knows everybody. He was my dad. That's one of the things he said to me once he goes, you know, the world is full of beautiful people and it warms my heart every time I meet one. That's something he said to me. He said a lot of wise things to me, but that was one that he just said. And I remember going, oh, that's who my dad is.

That's who my dad is. My dad loves people. And I do too. And that's part of the, one of the bummers about this, you know, one of the thousands of bummers about COVID and all this stuff is like, I feed off of people. I love to meet people. I love to, you know, talk to them. And it's hard to, you don't know what anybody's thinking with these masks on. Right.

And I don't know about you, but I'm always grossly misjudging the way people look out of the masks. But I, you know, I just used to feed off people's faces and energy, and that's all gone. It's like a bunch of wall fucking walls. Silver lining, though. I mean, you can fart in a department store and get away with it. I mean, I've just been ripping ass for the past year.

You can? What do you mean? Why? Because they don't know. Impunity. Huh? I've just been farting with impunity in department stores and whatnot. Because everyone's messed up.

You'll kill just as many people. Wait, so the father thing, I was going somewhere with this because it's interesting. Comedy, what the heck? Where were we going with this? I think we were about to talk about your big true crime podcast. I cut everything out before this yeah this is yeah let's i mean if you think of it we'll come back to it you know this is very

it's not very formal but um can i pee you can pee dude yeah i mean do it in the cup are you gonna do it in the long days mug? I was going to. Let me. Could we go have to take a little pee break? Yeah, we can take it. We can take a five. Yeah. I mean, are people still listening to this? Are they killing themselves?

Trust me. They'll listen to it. Trust me. Yes. Yes. How long? Yeah, that's great. Don't worry.

How long is it? It's an hour 30 so far. It's great. I did four hours with Rogan. So it's great. You did? Yes with Rogan. So it's great. You did? Yes. Four hours.

And then we did three hours. Really? Yeah. But on his podcast? On his. Yeah. Why are we doing his? I mean, we want people to hear this.

Yeah. A lot more people would hear it. Yeah. I'll let them know you're available. I don't know him, but I like him. But you, all I care about is you. All I care about is you, dude. Let me go pee.

All right. We won't watch. All I care about is you, dude. Let me go pee. All right. We won't watch. Do a quick, you know. Yeah. I mean, yeah, go ahead. I mean, I'd love to hear what your prostate's doing, but. When we cool down, we'll do it afterwards. Your wife's DMing me.

Should I say something to you about it? Say again? Your wife's DMing me. Should I say something about it to you? I'm not kidding. Her name is Britt, right? to you about it? Say again? Your wife's DMing me, should I say something about it to you or is that? I'm not kidding. Her name is Britt, right? Correct, yeah. Correct, yeah.

She is, I'm not making a joke. Huh? You sure that was a piss, you weren't dropping a deuce? I tried, but I thought of you and I, Uncle Jesse's in love, I mean, what, this is your wife sending me this stuff. Yeah. So this is going to be fun.

You have to plug your name in every fucking thing. Long Days Podcast. Check out the episode with John Stamos happening right now. This is going to ask Stamos. She posted it? She posted. I can't. I don't understand.

She posted something about... I don't know. Yeah, well, you know, it's a big... Yeah, that's a big... She posted. She's a big deal for her. She's half Greek. Very pretty girl, and she looks great naked. I'm just saying.

Are we recording? We're recording. Thank God. Yeah, yeah we're back uh no i'm kidding is your and you know what i realized when i was trying to pee in there what we were going what i was going for was i want to talk to you about being a father because i have a lot to say about it and i'm sure you do too and maybe i can learn something yeah i mean do you how do you it's a drag that our parents aren't around to, to, you know, to help us, right? Like, oh, I want to ask my mom this. Yeah. Well, I'm, I'm very lucky. Like her, her mother and father are still around. Her mother stayed with us for a year. She's like the best mother-in-law and she's helped us so much. So

it's great. I have good in-laws too. That, that yeah i remember i had to call your house on easter and talk to your family then i'd call back or make a video because aunt lulo wasn't there whoever the hell yeah right exactly we have a thing you know we gotta we gotta we gotta we gotta take care of each other and i appreciate that you made her you know what and her father passed away from covid so that you did that was very nice. And she – It's so easy to do those kind of things, isn't it? It was amazing. Yeah, it was Mariana. It was –

So how do you feel about being a – you were talking about discipline earlier. Now, your daughter's only one, right, or 10 months, I think. 10 months. My son is three and three or four months. And, you know, discipline is the hardest. You know, you can't hit them, I guess. But, boy, look, here's what I've realized.

And I've been around kids my whole life. I have nieces and nephews. It's so much harder than I thought. And you're still, you know, your daughter's probably just still kind of blobby, right? I mean, and your wife probably does most of it, as does my wife. Right. does most of it, as does my wife. But it just takes so much patience and common sense and love, just so much love and money and time and energy. Like, I'm glad I, for me, I couldn't have done it, you know,

much earlier because I just, you know, thank God, you know, I'm sort of established and I don't have to, I'm not chasing a career or money or whatever. But, but if I did, I just have so much respect for parents, especially, you know, and, and both parents, a lot of parents have to work now and they're not around their kids. And I could see about 10 times a day that if I was abusive or if I was drinking or whatever, where you would, you would, you know, you might think about hitting the kid. Like what, you know, we're at the point now where we you know we put him in his room and and and he's a beautiful boy it's just the light of my life and last night I was a little and I rarely get down

but I was down and and he sensed it and he just he we were laying in bed and he put his hand on my face I love you Dada and I just it's incredible it's like they can feel that but um but but they but they're pushed they push the limits but they're pushing the bound they're trying to test their boundaries right now especially him i smell smoke and i think it's probably probably caught the house on fire again but um you what do you do like what do you do i mean i guess you don't you i don't know yet to be honest with you and i think boys are different from girls i think um you know uh there was i heard some great expression once somebody said it's like boys uh i think it was louis ck joke actually he said yeah boys will destroy will destroy your home destroy everything women will what is it a girls will

take a shit in your on your heart yeah so something like that something like that but yeah boys are generally more destructive when they're young like that supposedly and so i have a girl she's and obviously she's too young but um yeah i i for me it's like my life is not about me anymore and as a comic we're all kind of narcissistic we're i think entertainers were narcissistic i find it a little refreshing to just like not think about me as much anymore which is nice acted with her because it took me a while and i'm gonna say no what'd you say have you really connected with like i i remember no it takes it takes longer than with the mother

yeah it takes longer the mother right away. Yeah, it takes longer. The mother right away because, you know, the closeness there. Because the food is in their tits. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody said to me, I think it was Saget. He said, I said, did it take a while to connect? He said, yeah, it takes longer for the guys. He said, wait until he laughs at you for the first time.

And that was it. He started laughing. And my son loves to, he's just joy. He's a pain in the ass. I mean, he is getting to be a terror sometimes to the point of like, you just don't know what to do with it. Like they're just terrible. But most of the time he's just, and he loves to laugh.

He just loves to laugh. Like he just wants to laugh and it's beautiful. The most beautiful sound I have ever heard in my entire life is my daughter's laugh. But wait until she gets about one and a half, two, and dad starts talking, following you around, and saying how unfunny you are and stuff. It's funny.

She laughs at everything my wife does. She will laugh at nothing I do. Well, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, no, but it's the most amazing experience and um i you know i assume they change so it's like what how old's your son now three and a half i guess i heard the twos and the threes are the worst so yeah there you go yeah he can be bad but but i know he's got a heart and i know i know he's got a conscious conscience and

all we could do is just love love love love love but you know it's um and he's jacked up on horror he's jacked up on like newness he's like fresh out of the box so it's like that's the thing you gotta just go oh i gotta see things from his eyes too because that's the thing with it you know when you get old like me like you know i used to again like i would i around all these older guys, you know, all the guys we talked about. Also the Beach Boys I spent the last 35 years with, you know. And now I'm the, now I'm the older guy and I've got younger people around me and, you know, you have to pay it forward, right? But I love watching, like the girls on my show, I love watching how fearless they are and they were. Just, you know, a lot of them didn't, haven't been on shows and they they are and they work just but you know a

lot of them didn't haven't been on shows and they've worked here they just come in and i was like god that was me you know when i was younger and it's you know you just want to get back to that you know i think some of that generational too to be honest with you because like this this generation is growing up with the answer to every question they have right in front of them. They, I noticed that like, they're just not as insecure as we were generations before where we didn't

know anything. Like if they don't know something, they can watch a YouTube video and learn how to do it. Like drew one of my producers here, drew is he's of that generation. He's 23. And it's like, he just,

I could just tell he has that confidence where like, if he doesn't know anything, he knows he can go and learn it. He doesn't have to go to school. He doesn't have it. It's like, I could just tell he has that confidence where if he doesn't know anything, he knows he can go and learn it. He doesn't have to go to school. He doesn't have to, it's like he can, whatever he wants. And they think they can do everything, which is hilarious. Because they see everything's possible with the internet.

You can do anything. You can put your opinion anywhere. So I think some of that is generational too. But they can't talk to anybody. There's no... I'm kidding. But that's the you know it's like fire right it's um it that's the downside that these kids don't know how to

talk and they don't want to communicate there's got to be a healthy balance and that's already an issue with the screens and tv with with my son we try to do it um how much do you love music man how much do you like you just grabbed your guitar like it was like an instinct. Well, because I, he, we were talking about the little shit. He likes to come up and put stuff. I'm not even, I don't know what's in here. It could be something that could be,

but I heard it earlier. I said, I'll wait and see. Just make sure he doesn't get a hold of your black dildo. That's what I found at the guitar. Yeah. What the fuck is this? You can always hide it in your ass if you want to keep it from him.

I did. That's where it's now. Okay, this is a light from here or something. But this is not funny because... Yeah, those are all his toys in your guitar. Toys, and he thinks it's so funny. The other day, we were at this mall. I take him to get ice cream.

What the fuck is this? I take him to get ice cream, and it's kind of a bracelet. It's kind of a bougie. I live by the Kardashians. What the fuck? So he knows his dad's famous, right? That must be weird for him growing up with his dad being famous I don't think he gets it quite

because everybody's on video and TV you know because you videotape him but we went to get chocolate ice cream and he got this dark black chocolate ice cream and I turn my head and look back he's got it all over his mouth and he jumps off the table and starts running up and down the strip mall saying i just i got poop on my mouth i got poop i got poop

and then everybody's looking at me like i'm a terrible father but he's uh what's my point to that he's a mischievous little guy if you know we were trying to see if he knows if your dad if his dad's famous he doesn't know what that is yet he's going to the concerts now the beach for concerts and at first he would just kind of run around he didn't really get it but now he like dad dad can i go on stage yeah one a couple months ago he came up with me and it was but we were playing god only knows and there's carl wilson sang the song ridge you know sang it on the record and he was a beautiful soul carl wilson and they have a big video screen of carl singing it and it was, and God Only Knows is a perfect song. And it just is just perfect.

And Billy came up and he's sitting on my lap and we're listening to God Only Knows. And there's Carl's in the back. And it was just, you know, it was one of the greatest moments I've had. How did you, how did you get to tour with the Beach Boys? Like,

how did that happen? Like, how did that happen? I stalked them. Hold on a second. But real quick, talking about the internet. You're right. And that's why there's so many, like, great young,

you see all these kids, musicians that are three, four, five, and they're playing the shit out of the drums. If you want to, and that's the thing that I'm grateful that the kids get to do. Like, we were talking about the old guys earlier. You couldn't watch. When I was a kid, how could you find Sammy Davis Jr. or Frank Sinatra doing their stuff? There's no YouTube.

VCRs came around. And, you know, my mom would tape old movies and stuff for me. But you couldn't just look at... And look how much we would have learned from them, you know, in those old days. But people... The learning curve is so much quicker for kids now so much quicker i mean for that it's all good right but i'm not i really a guitar player the beach boys i was on i i was look they're my who's

your number one group like what who do you who's your number one i would i would uh van morrison van morrison is my favorite of all time i love van morrison i love the stones uh but you play any instruments no i'm i have no talent well you're you're funny and you're handsome that's it i put john stan was calling me handsome that's that's in fact well let's erase the rest of the podcast and just keep that you remind me of my publicist. I had this great gay publicist. That's great.

I remind you of my publicist. I got a fucking personality of a drip. He was my first, no, he was very handsome. He was a great, Greg Aliopoulos, the poor guy. He died of AIDS. But he taught me, he taught me to be accepting, you know, I grew up in Orange County where, you know, gay was. Huh?

He taught you to be accepting of gays yeah and i remember i remember him saying one day i said what what what what well i don't get it he said you know how you feel when you look at a girl and you get that tingly feeling you know i said yeah because that's how i feel when i when i see a man when i look at you john stamos well no he was never that's what he was saying yeah he definitely yanked it to you a few times without a doubt. He was a, he, my parents loved him. He was a great, great guy. And he passed away of AIDS and I, it just breaks my heart.

You look like him and he's a, he was a great guy. Look, we, you know, we're not gay, me and you, but we are Greek. So if we went to prison, we'd pick it up pretty quickly. We're on the waiting list. Yeah. You're, you're gay, Jason. Yes. I'm gay. I'm, i'm gay i'm i'm gay curious you are no you're a gay thing no i'm a straight kid i like the puss puss people used to joke with me it was like all the words he's all the crazy shit you've never had a

wiener graze your cheek i'm like no no never no no um we were going somewhere oh beach boys so the i loved them and could you imagine we could yeah we could probably coin an expression john stamos level tale i mean you could probably say there's i mean you could if there should be a hall of fame it would be you derrick cheater we throw a few in there i mean but you're definitely a first ballot hall of fame get her no no no no if you really look deep you'll you'll see i always wanted to be in relationships i always wanted to be in a relationship i was never and that's kind of gay yeah yeah i was never um and maybe this is why hopefully knock on wood it never happens that i that someone come out of the woodwork and said you did this and that i was too afraid to to make a move on girls i was i was

always and i went to bed early my friends used to call me the p-waster because i would just hey not good night um and i was always afraid to make even to my wife was telling a story yesterday about me on our first date and she was she loved it that i was afraid to make any moves on her that she had to make the first seven moves yeah i was always i didn't want to feel presumptuous like you know girls thinking like who is i was hate that i would hate um which i got a lot as a kid i would hate to be turned away right or or rejected tough so yeah i never i wasn't like that wait we're talking about the beach boys so i was like that too though i never i was uh i'm always scared of like women saying like i'm just nervous around them and i used to be pissed i was like why can't i be more aggressive like some of my friends and then this

me too era came and i was like you know what it's kind of come in handy i'm glad that i'm not aggressive and i was respectful i i grew up with three you know two sisters and a mother and i my dad was very respectful of women and i got that too from him so it's important it's important to respect women yeah and a lot of it I was I just fell asleep but um Beach Boys how did you how did you end up touring with one of the greatest bands of all time they're probably top five top ten all time yep and and can you imagine can you imagine playing with the Stones? No. And that's just one night.

No. Yeah. What the fuck do you got to complain about? Nothing. And that's the thing too. It's like sometimes I talk to people around me that get depressed. I go, you wake up in the morning. You don't have anything to get over.

Like you wake up. I'm sure a lot of your life has been waking up going oh my brother shit my mom my dad my mom oh my god you know you wake up fresh and you go oh what a beautiful sunny oh my mom's not here to see my my kid just did this so you have to get over something and uh it's um great I just gotta be live it right now and because because because it's all kind of clean in my life and my wife's you know my kid stuff that's the thing gratitude and you have it and i love to see you have it but to to overcome a lot of the stuff that you've overcome is is uh just how you get through a day sometimes it's pretty pretty you're a strong man that's why thank you another reason why i like you

yeah it's uh it's that it's true i'm not gonna deny deny it. Yeah, it's tough. It's been tough. Is your third your other brother? What's his deal? So my other brother is just, you know, he's a lot. So I'm the youngest by a lot. So my middle brother is 10 years older than me. And then my older brother is close to 17 years older than me. And we've gotten closer as we've gotten older. But, you know, we weren't we weren't really together. I mean, he was he was gone out of the house when i was like uh one he left and he never really came back so uh there's a big gap but we've gotten closer as we've gotten older and he's great he's in politics uh he was in politics so life he worked for uh clinton can't clinton administrations obama administrations yeah see that your pedigree is is a lot of very smart people around you i mean you're not but i

mean everybody right no but i but i am certainly not as smart as my brother i tell you he's a sharp kid oh but that's you too you're sharp and you i love the way that you're you're opinionated but you're not polarizing you know you'll take a stance on something and you'll be a little harsh on some people but most of the time time, I think they deserve it. I got to do my job. But people love you. But I don't know why you're not bigger, by the way. And I mean that in a...

I hope you're still... I'm looking forward to seeing you go much higher. Not that you're not... All I got to do is get invited to your fucking birthday party and I think I could hobnob with the right people that's not gonna happen but um it says i'm all it's done already you know i don't have any big birthday there's no more birthday parties but wait a minute i'm just going all over the place we're talking about the beach boys how did it happen oh wait let me just real quickly yeah so your, your family were very much like go to college, learn, you know, be smart, you know, right. Yeah. Well, there is, you know, my mom immigrated,

you know, she came here after the war, like her family came here after World War Two. And yeah, she you know, she was of the generation. It was like she was she's the same exact age as Ruth Bader Ginsburg. So she was only one of two women at Brooklyn Law School. I mean, back then, there was only like a few. Ruth Bader Ginsburg, that generation, there was only a few of them that actually went to law school. So my mom kind of broke the mold. My father, too.

Like, my grandfather had restaurants like your dad. And my grandfather didn't understand why he wanted to go to college. Like, he was mad at him. He was like, you take the restaurant. What's the problem? We have a restaurant. You take the restaurant. And that was my dad to me. Yeah. And it's like, John, why would you?

That's funny. He was still doing it like, John, what are you doing? You're out there on TV making this bullshit money. You can sell burgers. Yeah, I was I was his Sunday guy, you know, and he wanted me to go to college. I wasn't very, you know, I wasn't in the school. I wasn't very academical, as I say, which is stupid. But he wanted me to go to college because he was building this restaurant.

He had three restaurants and he was going to give them to me. And I said, all right, next semester, you have to or I'm going to kick you out of the house. I said, okay. And then, please let me get on TV. Please let me. And I did. I got on General Hospital then. But he, so I would, I still lived at home.

And I was a Sunday guy. And I knew the safe combination. And I had to go do that. And I started to work on General Hospital. And he still made me go in on the weekends and work at the restaurant. That's hilarious. Right. But it's discipline.

It's the Greek. And he was like like he thought that the show business thing was going to go away and but the show started airing general hospital and it got very popular if you remember yes and i'm still working on sundays at the place and people were coming and going hey could have a cheeseburger aren't you that got no give me a cheeseburger and french fries and you know after a while and, girls were lining up around the place. I said, Dad, I'm famous. I got to quit.

And finally I did. That's crazy. But that's our parents, right? I would come home from these car shows with $10,000 in cash or something. I said, look at this, Dad. Who gives a shit? Go clean up the dog shit in the backyard. Right, right, right.

That's where you got your humility from, obviously. Yeah, and they got away from me for a while, but the family, you know, they bring it back. You became arrogant for a little bit? It's hard to keep... You got arrogant for a little bit? Yeah, I think so.

It's a little bit of this interview. People listen this long to this shit? Absolutely, Yanni. Absolutely. You know, you're going to go to your go-to place. So the Beach Boys, I was really good friends with the guitar. I was friends with the guitar player, Jeffrey Foskett, who played with them.

And I'm still best friends with them to this day. And I just love them. When I grew up, the Beach Boys were everything to me. You know, the music, I would, as I talk about it in the podcast, I would, because there's a connection with the Beach Boys and the Sinatra Jr. kidnapping, but I would drive around my dad's El Camino with an eight-track of Endless Summer. That's what turned me on to them.

And I would, and I went to, my first concert was at the Universal Amphitheater here in Los Angeles, and the top was off, and it was the Beach Boys. And I'll never forget it because Mike Love and Dennis Wilson were fine. Which I learned later because I told Mike about I was at the concert, and he would remember everything, these guys. He said, oh, yeah, Dennis tried to bring heroin to Brian that night, so my brother Stan beat him in the face with a phone. And I was like, oh, that's great.

I'm 15 years old. But I remember Dennis pushing his drums over on Mike and then took his hat off and ran. I mean, those guys, there's some stories there. But they obviously respect you as a musician to have you out there touring with them. That's crazy. We'll get to that.

Yeah. So my friend invites me to this show in Anaheim. I'm in San Diego, the Padres game. And they played the concert and they hadn't done the encore yet. And I went to go backstage and all the girls on the field and cheerleaders and everything

chased me into this, the backstage area, screaming and yelling and security came. And Mike Love turns to my friends and says, who's that? He says, that's my friend John Stamos. He's on General Hospital. And Mike says, do girls scream like that all the time when they see him? My friend said, yeah. He goes, get him on stage. And so I went on stage and played Bob Rand and I just I just never left I just I was at the time

the the drummer the Dennis Wilson who I just spoke of he died there was always two drummers and it kind of I don't I kind of crowbarred my way in there a little bit and then they said we're doing this big show on the 4th of July of 1984. And we're having some celebrities, Joan Jett and the Oak Ridge Boys, Mr. T. It was a war group. And Jimmy Page was playing guitar. Wow. Wow. So I'm off in the afternoon.

And it was a million people in Philly, a million people, a real million, too, at the monument. And if I show you pictures, man, you'll shit yourself. And I remember them, the crowd was pushing, pushing, and they said, hey, you kids, go out there and tell them not to push or we can't start the show. I said, okay. And I'm like, I went out there and there's a million people. And I said, you want me to stop pushing, huh?

It was like Trump's inauguration exactly yeah and that many people no it was a real millionaire and i was like oh my god so that was the first and jimmy page was playing guitar and my friend jeff dude that's insane and he hadn't been around you know he is he was just coming around again and he my um my friend and my friend got was to go tell him what keys we were doing songs in um and we got up to his room and i'm like 19 or 20 something and and he's here you want some jacked down no can i have a light beer please or something and then my friend jeff went off into another room with the roadie because because they had this new tuning thing or a new bend ed string bending guitars I think and I'm Paige sitting next to me he grabs guitar he said uh so what key is Bob ran in I'm

like I don't f-sharp I can't fucking solo and I'm sure screaming at me I can't find it so enough champagne you know was screaming at me. I can't fucking solo an F sharp. I'm just writing, you know. I talk, what key is fun, fun, fun? And he goes, E flat. I can't fucking, you know, screaming at me. I'm like, Jeff. It was one of those moments. He had all these weird, he had these weird, he had these anvil cases around. And I thought maybe they were guitars or things.

But they were, it was devil shit. And there was a girl that was traveling with him. And like, how these guys got away with this shit you know it hasn't come back to them like each day this girl had like a different bruise and a different cigarette burn and for for a long time we we did the joke bastard i've crashed you know that that was rock and roll back then rock and roll man so that's You were on the road with them young. Let's just, can I just, just quick. I know you don't want to answer this question because you're a married guy now, but I mean, you must have cleaned up a little bit on the road, right?

Did they call you the bus boy? I mean, you must have cleaned up a little bit. Well, to keep in mind, I mean, you know, it was the Beach Boys, even in the 80s and 90s, their fans were, you know, were a little older. A little older. But, you know, they did. I was in relationships through a lot of it, but they had the brilliant idea. I think it broke up quite a few marriages and relationships, but they had the idea to bring out 10 cheerleaders on the road with us for the show.

And that was the thing. But it's been the greatest thing since my kid and wife. it's been the greatest thing since my kid and wife it's been the greatest thing in my life i mean think about it you know and the music especially right now this music means so much to people it really is the great uniter and you don't want to get all puffy about it but the politics don't matter when you're playing that music good vibrations fun fun fun surfing usa optimistic stuff wouldn't it be nice i mean to watch this crowd and i you know i play drums or i'm playing guitar i'll be behind mike love who's a great front man and loves singing these songs and i see the power that this music has over people and it's just it's oh it's just

overwhelming and to be even a little tiny part of it or be on the sidelines my main goal once once i was in with them was to make sure that the younger generation got to know who the beach boys were because they weren't playing them on the radio they weren't they you know you hear them pop up in a mood you know happy feet or something but i put them on i put them on this show you again with jack klugman first and then full house we did a couple episodes with them and that was right around kokomo and all that and i think i have so many to this day and it's one of the greatest things someone could say to me is i got turned on to the beach boys by watching you guys on full house i saw it yeah i follow chet hanks tom hanks's son i love him on instagram

and he he did this one video he was like he's like he's like listen he's like look whatever you're doing right now i I need you to drop it. I need you to go put on Kokomo by the Beach Boys. And he's rocking out to it in the car. He loves the Beach Boys. So it's really much. I didn't get a name check for that. He didn't.

He didn't drop your name. He didn't drop it. He'll he'll text me once in a while. Malaka. Yeah, he's the best. He's a good guy. Dude, you do. You've done so many different things

like before we talk about the podcast though let's talk about the article because you know you say we got a lot in common i get called that a lot by a lot of comedians and like fans they always call me underrated and all that stuff this big article comes out in the la times and it's a it's a warranted article it's a great article and uh how did that make you feel when that came out i'm talking about this article in the la times where they say that this is your time finally you're getting the recognition for being uh this uh dramatic actor be having this range breaking out of the kind of the ex teen idol kind of thing from fucking full house which is not really a teen idol thing it's just you were a good looking

guy on it um what do you feel about that article i didn't read it bullshit i got it plastered on my wall you're kidding yeah of course i didn't believe it i remember the morning too i was i wasn't i think i got some sort of food poisoning the night before and i was not feeling good and i couldn't wake up and then i was sitting on the pot and all of a sudden I get all these texts and my publicist said you gotta read the LA Times and he sent the article and I didn't even look at it at first because I was like I can't deal with this right now and then I read it and I thought I was still asleep or in diarrhea heaven or something because I was like this doesn't even it was it it anyway it was it the main thing I felt was god darn it I wish my parents were here to read this

but it was there you know in LA Times was their thing and I remember I would read the calendar section and I was a cover of the calendar section and I would read it as a kid and I clip out stuff my mom would clip out stories about, you know, actors and stuff. So it was pretty, it was, that guy did a lot for me. Did you know he was writing it or it came out of nowhere? No, it came out of nowhere. I didn't know. And, you know, since it's been out, people have, you know, things have popped up that,

you know, you wouldn't, I don't think I would have got the attention to do and some different stuff. Anyway, you know, I've had a lot of bad not a lot of bad stuff but you know shitty reviews and stuff but this full this new show got you know just love letters like and that was another thing i couldn't believe it i i you know it was like wow i it was about for me it was about trusting the writing which is very difficult for me to do and just be in the moment just play the character don worry, you're not producing this thing. Don't worry about the girls. The first few episodes,

I didn't really even get to know the girls because the character, and I never do that method stuff, but I had to for this guy. I hated it. I come home and say, I wish I could talk to these girls. I hope they don't think I'm a jackass,

but I don't want to be friends with them yet. Eventually we did, and they're good kids, but it's, I've had a wonderful life. I've, so, so we're getting back to you being. Yeah. I mean, don't make it sound, you just made it sound like it's over. That was weird. Well.

Sounds like you were signing off. It could be. It could be. It's gotta be, you gotta be, it's the gratitude, right? I mean. I mean, your life sounds like it could just be getting. I mean, after reading that article, I mean, there's probably big things ahead coming again for you. I don't know what more. It started with being on this podcast.

You're welcome. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, what could be better than what I'm doing right now? I mean, I've made it. Nothing, dude. Nothing. How many viewers do you have? About 12. What's Rogan's made it. Nothing, dude. Nothing. How many viewers? You have like five? About 12.

What's Rogan's number? Just text me in the thing. Rogan does like millions. Rogan does like millions. Oh, I mean his phone number. Oh, his phone number? I'll text it to you, yeah. I know why this is your,

you're just doing this to get to Rogan. I get it. Nope. I love you. So this, so 25 years ago or so, oh, I had some props to show you, some things to show you. You showed me the dildo already.

Oh, never mind. Yeah. 25 years. I met the Beach Boys through, I mean, I met, through the Beach Boys, I met Jan and Dean, and they were another surf duo. They had Little Lady from Pasadena and Dead Man's Curve. and they were another surf duo. They had Little Lady from Pasadena and Dead Man's Curve.

Dean Torrance, I was at the Orange County Fair. I was going to play with them. And he turned to me and said, and again, I'm like in my early 20s. He said, Stamos, do you produce? I'm like, yeah, sure I do. I didn't even know it.

Yeah, sure. He said, my best friend, I loaned him money to kidnap Frank Sinatra Jr. And in prison, he wrote this manuscript, and I own the rights to the kidnapping of Frank Sinatra Jr. I'm like, what?

You want to try to do something with it? And I, you know, I read it. I was like, it was just, I couldn't, this story is so, have you listened to any of the podcasts? I did, I did. And for people who are listening right now who don't know, because believe it or not not a lot of people are young and they don't know frank sinatra you obviously know who he is his son was kidnapped it was like the biggest story

in the country for a little while he was kidnapped and john stamos right now has a podcast out called snatching sinatra it's a true kind true crime podcast series where he interviews the guy who kidnapped Sinatra. It's crazy. How often do you get to talk to the actual criminal? His name is Barry Keenan. He was a guy... I've been out trying to sell this as a TV miniseries and movies, and, you know, it's been a little difficult with him.

But being able to do it, so I said, fuck it, I'm just going to do this podcast because I need to get this story out there and people will not believe it. But in doing, I always kind of sort of made it sound like, I always, Mark's wife, Barry, know just was he wasn't a criminal he's you know clumsy criminal kind of cut the gun stock and got this and lost that and everything went wrong but the truth is he he was a mentally ill man who who was um sick and and so the podcast has given me time to really delve into his psyche. And by the end of the first episode, you understand why he did it. He grew up in L.A. and he went to this high school with Janet Dean and James Brolin and Ryan O'Neill and all these fancy famous people.

And they had this group called the Barons. And they all made it. Everybody made it but him. And he wanted that. He wanted a seat at the big table. And he was going to do anything to made it. Everybody made it but him. And he wanted that. He wanted a seat at the big table. And he was going to do anything to get it. And he was at the lowest point in his life. And I remember sitting at a restaurant about four or five years ago with a couple of producers, Dean Torrance and Barry.

And he's talking about it. And I said, why, Barry, why? He said, because God told me to. and everybody's kicking each other on the table. I said, what do you mean? He said, I was watching a thunderstorm over Catalina Island in Balboa, and God came on the radio and said, to get rid of your troubles, all your troubles, and he owed money, and he was addicted to drugs and pills and alcohol, and he was a very, very smart guy.

He was the youngest in the stock exchange at the time. His dad was a stock, was a securities guy. And he said God told him to kidnap somebody, and it couldn't be a kid, it couldn't be a girl, and you had to pay back all the money. You can't hurt the person. I said, that was pretty detailed. He said, yeah.

And the radio wasn't even on. Oh, okay. So it's unbelievable what he did. He made three attempts. Kennedy got shot. So the nation's like, you know, on edge. Frank Sinatra's like this. And Barry says, well, that was in Dallas.

You know, I got a schedule to keep. But two weeks later, he goes up to Tahoe and he pulls it off. He cons a couple of his buddies. Gets them out of Tahoe miraculously through a series of funny events. Puts them up. He has this halfway house here in the valley. I'm in Los Angeles, which is a weird place. And realizes he forgot his gun up at the crime scene.

Left fingerprints. Didn't pay the hotel bill. Had the keys still. So he gets his girlfriend who was a virgin at the time and he's been hiding this whole thing from her. When she finds out, she fucks him on the spot.

She's so turned on. She drives him back up to Tahoe. Now, and they're in the room overlooking the crime scene in Tahoe. It turns out the girl had all this money, pays the bill. They clean up the place, grab the fake mustaches, and he thinks the feds are onto them. So he was smart enough to bring up outfits and skis to pretend like they were honeymooners on their honeymoon. Skiing. And so at this moment, he's got the most powerful people on the planet trying to find him.

He was the most wanted man in the United States. FBI, the CIA. And they all wanted to, you know, do this for Frank. And the mafia, probably. Sam Giancana calls Frank and says, do it my way, Frank. At J. Edgar Hoover. All these, Kennedy had to go, and you know the relationship between Kennedy's, you know, Kennedy. Kennedy, you know, John F. Kennedy gets shot.

His brother's got to move in. His brother hated Frank. And, you know, because of the mafia ties and all. And he has to tell him, look, you have the full force of the government after you. And everybody's trying to get this son of a bitch. And Barry's up in Tahoe on the bunny slopes. know like it's a wackadoo story he spent you know so he i won't tell too much of it but he goes he gets caught eventually and um he gets 75 years plus life what they did was so you were talking about your mom as a lawyer i was thinking about this there was this famous lawyer and i wish your mom was was clear to talk about

it because i bet she would know named gladys toll's root and she was this famous uh very uh outspoken out dressed crazy this character here in los ang, big hats. And she mainly defended sex crimes, sex criminals. And she actually died defending a twin rapist on the stand. But she was so good, people would come around. So somehow they got her to defend one of the guys. And she whispered, when they were losing, said, this was a publicity stunt, wasn't it? This is, you know, this was, Frank was in on this,

senior and junior. And Barry elaborated on that story, and that's what really pissed Frank off, right? So they get, they, and Frank, this was a shit show. It's happening in LA. Sinatra's there in the courtroom, and all the people, Janet Dean, everybody, crazy. So they go to jail he doesn't claim

insanity which he should have because the other two guys he did it with one of them was a baron and they you know from school and they had the you never turn your back on a baron so he figured if he would have said that he was insane and used that um use the insanity then his friend would go to jail forever and he'd get out. So he didn't. They eventually realized, you know, let's let this guy out. And Barry tried to tell the story for a long time.

And he actually had the Son of Sam law turned over and he went to sell this, sold it to Sony. Consequently, it never got made anywhere because Frank didn't want it made. It was a very, it was embarrassing too.

I mean, and as soon as you start talking about Frank and digging into his shit, you know, that wasn't good. So Barry had been shot at at least three times over the years. The last time, you know, it went on for 50 years. So supposedly the story goes that frank got his death but said you know get that son of a but the but the but the hitman was old too and the one of the last hits that that barry had on him he said he was running in huntington beach uh where dean torrance lives and the guy has had him in his sights and his colostomy bag broke

And the guy had him in his sights and his colostomy bag broke. Shit went all over the place and he missed him. I mean, he's like the luckiest man to still be walking today after kidnapping Frank Sinatra's son. The odds of that are crazy. And you have the story. You're interviewing him. It's an amazing podcast. People can listen to it anywhere, right, where they listen to podcasts.

When does this air? Soon? Saturdayurday yeah um is that a good day to air these it's a great day saturday night um uh yes if three episodes are out now or you can buy you know you can subscribe to the wondery app how does yours does this go everywhere it goes everywhere it goes youtube it goes uh to all the podcast apps and then it's up forever so people listen to it whenever they want you make a lot you're making some dough i heard though make it some time my boy josh peck told me about this thing that happened with you that this old part i would have to bring it up but um he said you were so funny and this guy's fucked you over i don't like it now you guys do your thing. Let's call Jesse's mother. You want her? Yeah, Drew, you want to call your mom?

We'll end it with that. How are we going to do it, John? On a FaceTime. Let's just call it on FaceTime. What about... Can you talk about everything? First of all, it's very funny. Drew's mom got very excited when she found out that John

was going to be a guest on the podcast and she made sponnie coppita and i don't know if you could have told your mom but i can't feed him the sponnie coppita through zoom but the sponnie coppita is here in your honor and his mom what is your mom like one tenth greek or something will you send it to me and guess what drew lost his father too drew's father was a firefighter and he died a heart attack how old was he 61 so drew's a great kid man we all have that in common it's fucked man it's fucked you know and you get older and as i look around you know i got a lot of older friends it's i hate it i hate it we're only here for a couple decades you know, I got a lot of older friends. I hate it. I hate it. We're only here for a couple of decades, man. You got to go.

You got to have a good time. And if you can find a way to get on stage with the Beach Boys for 35 years, that helps. That's a good time. Yeah, I'm lucky. And you are, too. Yeah. That'd be funny if she's not. She doesn't pick up the phone because she's like gossiping with one of her friends.

Like, Drew, you didn't call me. Drew! Yeah, give me the phone. What's your name? What's the, what? Mrs. Malik, I'm going to be respectful. Ralph Malik? Mrs. Malik, how are you?

How you doing? You good? You're kind of on it. There's so many wonderful things about you. Mrs. Malik, how are you? How you doing? You good? You're kind of on it on my phone. There's so many wonderful things about you. And I hear so many wonderful things about you. I love your son. He's the greatest.

And I have, yeah, I have, I'm sorry, yeah. Mrs. Malik, can you hear me? Yes. Yeah, I'm sitting here with John Stamos, and he wanted to say hello to you. Is that okay? Oh, oh my gosh i love him hi miss malik how are you he's so cute thank you mrs malik hey i heard you made spanakopita hold on a second why don't you is she on facetime hi is that facetime

yeah wait i hopefully we'll come back can you hear me now Why don't you, is she on FaceTime? Hi. Is that FaceTime? Yeah, wait. I hopefully will come back. Can you hear me now? She said she loved, she loved you in the men that stare at goats. What is she talking about? Does she think I'm someone else? No, no.

Drew told her to say that, and what can you do? Drew, stay out of this. I know you for sure. Full House was my favorite. She said Full House was her favorite. I heard, I heard. Where is she? Is Drew a good kid?

Drew's a great kid. Yeah, you can't see him. I don't know how we could do this. You can see him there now, right? Hi. No. He's on Zoom. Your son's the technical director over there, huh?

This is good. I can see you. All right. Mrs. Ballack, we love you very much. Yeah, you got to bring it closer so she can hear. Can you see me? Oh, hi. Hi, Mrs. Malick. Hi there.

I can't hear her, but she's cute. And thank you for the spotting corporate. What's she saying? She wants to know the fountain of youth that you dipped into. Oh. I don't know. Did she make spinach kubbeta? Yeah, spinach pie.

I made some spinach pie. I made spinach pie. I don't think my son cooked it for you all the way. I learned sign language, baby. If you sent your son to college to do technical work, you lost your money. All right. Tell her.

Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, it's tough over Zoom, but Mrs. Malik was very excited, and she cooked Spotted Coppita, and she said she doesn't know if we cooked it all the way for him. She thinks you're here still so what can you do let me see the kid yeah drew come on say hello to johnny johnny now he calls me

johnny johnny's hey buddy hey how long did you lose how long ago did you lose your pop uh 2018 so not not too long yeah tell your mom i'm sorry the and and he was a hero too all these heroes yeah he's a firefighter so i it was pretty cool growing up yeah like you're saying it sucks because like when i have kids and stuff i don't really have like you know someone to ask stuff but yeah but he's there he'd be there with you right he's there i can feel my dad and my mom and uh and you got yannis he'll help you think of him as a father godfather yeah oh he is your godfather no no yeah but you know drew's funny it was funny like when he first started work working with me and jesse he said he goes so uh

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