Yet Another Star Trek Podcast - Ep 007: (TOS S01E05) The Enemy Within

Episode Date: April 12, 2022

In this episode the gang discovers a get rich quick scheme when the transporter malfunctions and duplicates a dog. It also duplicates Kirk, but that is clearly a bad thing and some bad crap goes down. Drew runs the show, trying to keep Brad and Majeed on point as they discuss their thoughts about "The Enemy Within". Drop us an email at [e-mail] Be sure to check out our website, social media, and join our Discord! Links for all are listed below: Website | Discord | Instagram | Twitter | TikTok | YouTube “Warp Speed” and "To the Stars" was written and performed by William Grobbelaar Music: https://soundcloud.com/williamgrobbelaarmusic Additional artwork by George Rateau: https://www.fiverr.com/georgerateau Past Sadness by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/5024-past-sadness License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license  

Hey everybody, welcome to yet another Star Trek podcast. I'm your host Evil Drew'm very happy to be here. Very angry to be here because I'm evil. Today, I am joined by two also equally evil people. First up, evil Brad. Hello there, Drew. How are you doing? So evil.

I feel like in this situation, the opposite is needed. You should just shave your entire... Oh my God, that would be the most evil thing I could possibly do, because then everybody would just be horrified. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha What's up? Hey buddy. Hey, I'm I'm certain you're just evil cuz of the time change dude. I am I'm real cranky I am real cranky um my allergies are just on fire I lost an hour of sleep. We all lost an hour of sleep at the time change on top of that I'm waking up an hour earlier every day than I was

Not doing well. Uh-oh, buddy. It's all right. It'll be over soon. You only have to three more days until the weekend. Wait, today's Monday. Oh, shit. It's Tuesday.

You have three more days. I was cracked. I was cracked. You only have about eight more months until daylight savings time ends. So well, they just signed a law where daylight savings time is is a permanent now, apparently. Wait, wait, it's official. I guess the Congress like passed it unanimously or something. I don't, I don't know if it's if it's like, if there's any other steps,

send, send it approves a bill to make daylight savings time permanent. Oh my freaking God. Yeah, so yeah, this, this, this just needs a job between 20 to 20. Reach every, are you for real? Are you for real? Yeah, you're, you're stuck. God, damn it. Oh, well, no, no, no, it's a good thing.

It's a good thing because we get, we get an hour back in the fall. Oh, God, evil breath. Every time I try to understand this, I get confused. And my wife makes fun of me. She should. Fall?

It's simple. Fall back, spring ahead. Yeah, but which one? But, so you fall back and you, you lose sleep. You fall back and you gain sleep. You gain an hour. So you get an extra hour. Yeah. So when two o'clock, I don't understand how you gain and lose at the same time. When two, you sprint through a clock hits. You know, you, you, you lose, you lose some light. You gain an hour. You lose some light. You gain an hour.

It's in this. You know what? Let's move on. No, no, hang on. When two o'clock hits, nothing, we're going to end it right now. When two o'clock hits in the fall, 2 a.m. And the ice saving time ends, that means that you've time travel that is again two o'clock. Wait, 20 o'clock. Let's move on. I can't. We're going to spend way too much time on this. Oh my God. Just before we started recording, Paramount released a image of a new person cast as Captain James T. Kirk,

who will be appearing in season two estranged new worlds. Do you guys see this? Yes, because season one hasn't even come out yet. So we need spoilers for season two already. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes me upset. I'm, oh my God, I was expecting season one. So I'm all for like, there being all kinds of new Star Trek stuff out there. I enjoy most of it.

But I'm really starting to get this feeling that the producers and writers are writing fan fiction. and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the

and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the so much medium to consume that it's just getting to a point where it's becoming overwhelming.

I am looking forward to strange new worlds only because of the episodic style as opposed to a continued story like discovery. I do like that. Discovery is doing that continued story, but I'm a bit nostalgia for the original series, TNG, Voyager, Deep Space 9. That is what I grew up on for Star Trek. And it's something to kind of go back home to. And this is all canon, right? Like every story that's told in a strange new world is canon. Yeah, everything is canon. as canon. Everything is canon.

All Star Trek is canon. All of it, just to be clear, that includes the movies from 2013. It's like, to be a... Even the animated show. Yes. Yeah. Like the original animated show.

Yes. Very much so. Star Trek takes Canon very seriously. Now the books are non-cannon, but the things that we're starting to see kind of enter the Star Trek universe has started to feel to me more like the books. This is a good example,

and they've been like shoe horning things into the new series as well too, This is a good example. And they've been like shoe-horning things into the new series as well too. And I don't, you know, just to avoid spoilers, I'm not going to go into them. But I feel like they're putting certain characters and creating backstories for them that are just pure fanfiction, you know.

Things that they did in their past, ships that they served on under certain people, or, um, you know, even with like strange new worlds, like you have Uhura, uh, under Pike's command, but, you know, there's no evidence that she ever served with Pike or there's a character that's supposedly related to Conn, Noonie and Singh, which we, you know, we haven't seen in this show yet. We will later on this season, I believe, but, but I just, I don't know, man, like, I just feel like they're trying too hard to be clever. It's, it's getting a little bit too out there, in that sense.

I can understand that. I remember thinking about how they have so much history in Star Trek that they don't, they talk about things. And they say, oh, this happened, this start a, but they don't actually show it. They do it in the shows, it's very often. And one of the things I've always like was hoping

they would come up with is some sort of episodic style series that showed those things, like mini movies. We would always hear about wars between Klingons. It was like, why don't they just do like a mini episodic movie about that and then they could do something different about maybe the origin of the board or something so the things that are a little bit you know they talk about but they never actually show the origin of the origin of the Borg, correct me if I'm wrong Drew, you will know. It was due to a bad firm upgrade, right? Windows Windows 12. Right.

Right. Right. Windows 12 went rogue. It didn't update properly. And the Borg was created. You heard it here first. Exclusive. If it's true, you know who to think. Right. That's, uh, this time stamp this. Yeah.

Mark Fred it. Don't take this away from me true. We can be rich. I, um, I, I, I, after I got back from the gym on Saturday and I had some time to kill, I watched Picard. Oh, yeah, talk about that. Yeah. So I was tired, let's just start there. I was tired and I may have knotted off a bit. So here's what happened.

I nodded off while they were talking Picard and a character. And when I woke up, they were still talking. And I'm like, oh wow, are you cool? I just missed like five minutes. I checked the time mark. And it was damn near half the episode was over. Do they do anything else but talking to shell? clarification. This is episode one of season one, right?

episode one season one. Oh my god. They talk and you've never seen TNG, right? No, I've seen other things that Patrick Stewart has been and not, um, like, not, not TN. That's when does not care. Uh, American dad does that right? No. Um, what about, no, dude does not count either. Nothing. He wasn't doing.

Yeah. The original dude movie. Yes. No, I didn't see that either. I heard it was garbage What else does count then this is voiceover work in Ted count no no, that's none of that's cannon. It's not Star Trek I'll get back to you stop pondering You can see you just like hmm You guys will just be stroking your chin.

I can't because I'm gonna knock over the microphone again. Goodness. I don't know if I'll be watching anymore episodes of Picard, man. It was, it was, it was rough. You probably hold off on watching that until you get to watch TNG at the very least. I, I will say like, see, like that's a daunting thing. Right. Let's let's be completely honest, Brad. That's a daunting ask because we're sitting here and going through 70 something episodes of the original series.

And then wait, 70. Yeah. He looks like he just like realized that I know this, that I know this going in. I said it, whether you read it or not is another story, but wait. So yes, that's like we have. It's all right. We're we have like what? 64 episodes left to go. Someone.

We're basically halfway there. No. No, not even a little. So, so I get go. Some one. Yes, we're basically halfway there. No. No, not even a little. So I get what you were saying where it's, yeah, it's like how would you ever catch up to that? But my thinking is, in my opinion, is if you really want to care about Picard, the show, you probably need that only because if you try watching Pukard by itself, it is garbage, you're my opinion. It's there's, well, I mean, even though I've watched

every episode of the next generation multiple times, I'm still kind of low on the show myself. Yeah, I think that was the only reason why I finished is because I was such a fan of TNG and then like watching Picard, it was such a struggle to even watch the next episode. Yeah. I will say that so far season two is much better. We're only two episodes in as of this recording, and I'm enjoying it much more than I enjoyed season one. So far so that's talking. season one. So far so that's talking. It's just a more interesting concept. Okay, so if talking, if talking is a problem, TNG is going to be a rough go for you because there's a lot of talking in that show. I think so. I mean, I thought it was, you know, wonderful. Yeah, we want to, yeah, we're halfway through, you know, the original series. So there's, there are, I want to say maybe half a dozen to a dozen episodes that are like Picard heavy that I think you could probably watch and then jump into the show and have

enough context to go off of, but it is like spoilers all the way if you're trying to stay away from like TNG spoilers. Well, I think we we we touched upon this last week. I watched like maybe two or three episodes of TNG. So, you know, basically expert. Yeah. Yeah. He was playing a trumpet, right? Is that my dad? That's a great trumpet, baby. He was in a sunbarer playing a trumpet. That was cute. Oh, that's that's cute. That's cute. He was saying make it. So, you know, I'm not going to do this again with you. And it's fine. Anyway, is that I think I think

you will have a fun adventure ahead of you, which he good luck with the car. I am, I am, I am very, I'm getting attached to Kirk. Yeah, me too. You know, we're only seven or so episodes in, but yeah, I'm with you. I'm really, you know, I think, I think what I'm finding amazing is how quickly this show kind of finds its voice, especially compared to next generation deep space nine and voyage, or which took like an entire season plus to kind of find their voice.

I feel like this one, right from the get go, it's like here's Kirk, this is what he's about and here's Spock and this is what he's about. Like we kind of got out of the way. We got the cage out of the way. And then we're no man is going before, was a little clunky as well. But all the other episodes, you know,

pretty straightforward. It's like, here's the crew, this is who they are, and this is what it is, you know. forward. It's like here's the crew, this is who they are, and this is what it is, you know. Well, I guess we'll find out if that trend continues with the enemy within. Alright guys, so this week we watched the enemy within an episode where we doubled our pleasure, doubled our fun, and of course doubled our curse through a transporter malfunction. I feel like this is a knock off to a good start. What, my synopsis? Or... No, no, doubling curse.

Oh yeah, I mean look if you can double any crew member wouldn't you want it to be Kirk of all the crew members to double I don't know we'll see how this episode plays out nothing nothing could possibly go wrong Kirk's doing several crewmen are surveying a planet, but for some reason they also have a mini unicorn lion dog. I was like, I have no idea what the hell that is. It was a pomeranian. Is that what that was? That dog was well behaved by the way. No it wasn't. It didn't move once until it became evil. Oh spoilers. One of the crew gets injured from falling rocks and then beams back up to the ship to get it checked out but Kirk follows shortly thereafter. When he arrives he looks like he's about to pass out.

Scotty walks a Kirk tries to get him to go to sick bay, but he's nice to go to his quarters instead. But, while nobody is around, the transporter magically activates and another Kirk beams up from the music and the eyeliner. We know it's evil Kirk. All right, just really quick. That eyeliner was on point. Yeah, it really was. It was, it was, it was really well done. was on point. Yeah, it really was. It was it was it was really well done. So continue. Oh my God. Evil Kirk realizes that his doctors also his bartender and had straight to sick bay to get started in Brandy. So yeah, I think that was like the comment made from like that previous episode is true. Your your your doctors also the bartender. Okay back, right back then your doctor would send you home with

math and three cigarettes. The 60s were wild. Oh man, it's good time, right? So Scotty quickly figures out something is wrong when though unicorn lion dog is duplicated. And when they try to transport them back, this results in then leaving the away team on the planet until they can fix a transporter.

If they can't, they will all freeze to death. Now mind you, the unicorn lion dog that's duplicated, is also very, very angry for some reason. At first I was like, oh, this is like an episode for profit. Like we can like start duplicating dogs selling them and like we can make so much money off it. That's a Farenky joke. That's a very Farenky thing to say Brad. I could tell that the Farenky lessons have been working. Yeah. Which role of acquisition is that do you happen to know one thirty two sure oh let's find out

that you guys are nerds oh god you guys listen the fact that I have to get a Google all of these references it really obsessed me hold on a second here I'm looking for one thirty two well this is according to memory beta there is no one thirty two they never filled it out Yeah memory alpha has the closest are 125 and 139 125 you can't make a deal if you're dead 139 is wives serve brothers inherit The forangi are a little sexist. A little? A little? Yeah. Think of corporate America. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Joe, the Fringey are mad men.

Yeah. Oh, all right. I can totally picture a Fringey in a business suit. I'll work on that Photoshop immediately. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Oh, see here. Evil Kirk then heads on over to Yomin Rans quarters and thinks to take a very dark turn when he attacks

her and attempts to rape her. Thankfully, Rann fights back, scratches him on the face and gets crewman Fisher to call for help. Evil Kirk follows Fisher and beats a crap out of him, however. Poor Fisher, he gets a rock that falls on him, sends him a sick bag. And then he gets beat up by Evil Kirk. Fisher was the one that had the really long, like, preamble to his message. Oh, later on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was trying to use a communicator.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like why I just say your message and then say your name, bro, what are you doing? He's got to get those lines. So he gets paid by a screen actor. He gets paid by the syllable. He needs a sag after a box, you know, uh, sometimes can be poor. Through through Spock jumping to conclusions, they quickly figure out that Kirk has a doppelganger

and set out to capture him. After a short confrontation in engineering, Spock uses the Vulcan neck pinch to subdue evil Kirk, bring him back to sick bay. Scottie, Vulcan, Vulcan sleeper hold. Just, just move, move on. Just, keep going. Let's, let's plow through this. Scotty eventually believes he is able to bypass

the issue with the transporter, but he is unsure. As a test, they attempt to reintegrate the unicorn line dog, but sadly, he dies from the shock. Pouring out for unicorn line dog. I was, I was really sad. It was too. Animal cruelty, number one right there. Yeah, you know, you know, the dog wasn't really dead All right, like you just went off to the farm Yeah rainbow bridge

Oh Thor the episode throws in one last minute curve ball when good Kirk trust evil Kirk at his word and releases him from his restraints, evil Kirk almost immediately subdues him and attempts to escape. I like how evil Kirk got like all up in like good Kirk's like personal space and he looked like he was going to stab him with like a shank. Yeah, but but instead he just kind of punched him a lot. Yeah, right. Good Kirk meets up with evil Kirk on the bridge where he's able to talk some sense to him. They use the transporter again showing that the modifications made by Scotty fix the issue, thus saving the away team.

To sum up the episode, we get more proof that the ship's doctor is also a bartender. Unicorn line dogs are cute and evil Kirk is an angry drunk. So, gentlemen, what did you think of this episode? Majeed, let's start with you. I was disappointed. I was expecting some fallout from time travel, but nothing. Not even a mention of it. You're talking about... No, no. You're talking about a time travel from the naked time? Naked time. We established last week that you would never hear about that again. And I just want to reiterate,

you will never hear about that again. I wonder, I wonder if... Listen, it probably worked out in different ways. Like, you don't know this. Like, what if... What if that just means that they were able to turn the new episode in three days earlier and in air, really? No. Do you have any, do you have any sticky notes?

I have a feeling you're looking at a waffle of them right now. I have, I have comic book stuff on my wall. Do you do you have any sticky notes? I have the sticky notes app. Okay, open that up. Open it up. All right. All right. What do we got? I will never hear about the naked time time travel again. Drew will never hear about the naked time again.

That, that the episode, the time travel. I'm being very specific here. Drew will never hear about naked travel time. God damn it. The episode itself. Close enough. What was, uh, I don't know, I kind of grew with Mijit on that a little bit. It was a bit disappointing.

I think the idea of like splitting Kirk, you know, good versus, well, I don't even think it was like good versus evil. It was more of like two different polar opposites of the character. And I think that whole scene of Yom and Ran really just like took a nose dive for me on that one. Yeah, my wife walked in when that scene was playing out. My daughter was not too far behind at the positive. Really? It was rough.

I didn't enjoy that. At the same time, I also, you know, just now kind of thinking about it and before we recorded. They've done now two of these episodes back to back where it's inhibitions be inscript. And you're seeing these different sides of the characters. I guess it's comparable to when you guys are talking about the God episodes. script and you're seeing these different sides of the characters. I guess it's comparable to when you guys are talking about the God episodes, the God-like powers episodes. I mean, it's, I guess, common trends is all I'm trying to get across.

Well, I feel like a lot of the things that they're exploring are fairly common sci-fi tropes for the time. If you look at a lot of the content that was out back then, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, stuff like that, they were exploring these same themes in different ways. And perhaps in some cases they were more cerebral or less raunchy and in other ways maybe Star Trek succeeded better in exploring those same themes. But the thing is that I've found, is that Star Trek always tries to kind of push the envelope a little bit, but not too much. They tend to play it safe within what's socially acceptable

for the time, but they do try to make you think at the same time. If that makes sense, like try to show you another point of view and use that as a means of illustrating at how bad society is, or what we're doing wrong, or what we need to work on as a society. I don't know if they succeeded with this particular episode. I think they didn't think they did. Yeah.

Also, Gene Roddenberry is kind of has a reputation for being a bit of a horn dog. So no, you don't say. Yeah. Yeah, it was kind of bad. I did, I did love that. Uh, Rand was able to, you know, defend herself successfully. But, but then like later on, herself successfully. But but then like later on when good Kirk is trying to prove to her that, you know, it wasn't him, like you start to see her like start to second guess herself and question herself. And it's hard not to think about all these times when women were assaulted in real life and they've gone through similar things like this. That's a tough pill to swallow. Yeah, I don't have the vocabulary and knowledge to be able to defend one way or the other in things like that.

But there was definitely that sort of hesitance from Rand. Oh, yeah, no, totally. I'll let you explain this to me in my quarters, the scene of the crime that just happened three hours ago. Right, what's it? Were you referring to when Evil Kirk was trying to get her to let her bring her back to her quarters and talk again? That's what I'm referring to.

Yeah, that really bothered me like the whole idea and I mean the the actress who played her and did a really good job of showing like true terror at least that's the kind of reaction like I saw and to me that was very, very impactful. And it made me very feel for the character and it kinda made me think less of Kirk in a way. I know it's like the stupid of splitting of the opposites, but in my mind, like that means somewhere in him something like that kind of exists.

And that just gives me distaste for the character a bit. The way that they were able to defend themselves in that a little bit was saying that the double, the evil double was an animal. Hmm. And it was just the animalistic nature. So if you just talk about base animalistic nature, that could be a part of it, that kind of need to, I don't want to say bury your bone. I don't know how to finish this sentence.

I think the point that we all can agree on is that there is a level of thinking that is involved with our reaction to this. It's not an episode where we just kind of forget and it's over, we move on, you know, have a few laughs or have you, you know, a few cries. It's more of like, it's generating discussion among us and making us think about not necessarily the, you know, the, the captain, but, but the victim, like thinking of Rand and talking about her reactions and her experience. Yeah, does this, um, do they ever in this show ever get together? Yeah, Kirk and Rand, yeah, I don't think so. Not to my knowledge.

And Brad's gonna kick me for this next question. And I'm sorry, Brad. You can give me a dimaret, but is Rand in the JJ Abrams universe? I don't believe they... No, I don't believe they did, no. No. Um, but Rand makes a few appearances in the movies. She... don't put too much stock in her character. I know you've seen it off a lot of her, but she has a fairly small role in the show overall.

Yeah, I believe she's just a reoccurring guest star. Yeah, I mean, if I remember correctly, she's only in about eight or so episodes of the original series, which is a pretty small number. But she does have appearances in the movies as well, small roles, you know, more or less a cameo, I would say. So like her appearance does have some weight to it because she's, you know, somewhat of a recurring character, but you're not going to see her like, I know we've seen her in like half of the episodes that we've seen so far, right? I think it's probably, I think she's only in a episode of the original series. Oh, so just about half.

Oh, keep, keep keep saying that man. She is in four of the movies and is in an episode of Voyager. Which one was Voyager again? She and the one with two Vocs. Yeah, it was a flop. And Sulu, yeah, I know, I know what she exactly that episode. The rapper? Yes, yes, I know I know it's exactly that so the rapper yes, yes, yes To Valk the rapper recipes to Valk part went up for logic Can we just talk about how much of a badass spock is?

Yeah, you know, two weeks to an arrow, he just pulls out the vulcan sleeper hold and just dispashes the enemy, like just with ease. Well, the other thing is he's willing to make a difficult decision. You know, like Kirk is kind of waffling on what to do with the crew. And Spock like lays down the line. It's like, we're not being them up until we know what's going on. And, you know, like, you need to come to terms with that. And you need to tell them. And then when they're trying to make a decision

on whether or not to run the test on the unicorn lion dog, Spock is like, well, it's just an animal gym. And the three of us were animal lovers. So that's kind of rough, And, you know, the three of us were animal lovers. So, like, that's kind of rough, but at the same time, you know, science does experiment on animals. So I got this awesome perfume.

The unicorn lion Dog for men. I was expecting to hear the term, uh, damn it, Jim. I didn't get that. Well, you did get his dead gym. Oh, did I? Yeah, yeah, I missed that over the dog. Yeah. Well, oh, hey, right, you're right. You're right.

Um, I actually expected this entire series every time I saw Yeah. Yeah. Oh, hey, right, you're right, you're right. I actually expected this entire series every time I saw bones, I would get Damage Him. And I'm so disappointed in that. I mean, like, it's not a greeting. Damage Him, Damage Him. Damage Him. Damage Him, How are you? We just start greeting each other that way. That's how I talk to my neighbors.

Damn it Brad. That's how my neighbors talk to me. That's what we can start opening the podcast with. Dimmit listeners, welcome to yet another podcast. I love that. Oh gosh. Let's not take that into our personal lives though. I won't go over well with the family. Damn it wife. Where's dinner?

Oh, what do you want? Oh, sorry boss. So bad. Right. My boss wouldn't take it well for sir. I feel like I feel like he would like just look at you and be like, you're fired. Um, so that that that space brandy, that space liquor that they were drinking. It had a fancy bottle. Is that like, did that thing ever go up like for sale as like a collector's item? Do you know? I'm sure I think I think was so cool. Sorry and brandy bottles.

Second top result here, Google. I mean, you could buy it. No, I listen, I could. I wouldn't, you know, no, no, but the, with the amount of alcohol that's not consumed in this household. Well, I mean, you could buy just the bottle is what I'm saying. That's fun. And you could put your own whatever in it, you know, you can put his protein shake in it.

Oh my god, you imagine taking nothing to the gym. I have pre workout in there. That's, that's how you get kicked out of my gym very easily. With a sorry. Right. So are sorry, Randy. Right, sorry, and Randy. I mean, it's like taking like a chocolate syrup bottle filling it up and just drinking out of that. I wanna do that.

I would love to do that and just freak out my family. Or like that. You're just taking the syrup and pouring it all over some pancakes. Or buy a mayo jar and fill it with vanilla yogurt or something. That one I'm going to do. I think that one I'll do. And I'll debut that for a video meeting next week. I'll let you know how that goes.

Never tell you about your boss. Where like we were out to dinner one time and we were at a diner and a friend of mine ordered waffles with vanilla ice cream atop. Your boss thought it was just butter. And when my buddy was taken a nice spoonful,. Your boss was like, that is disgusting. How can you eat that? Why? He's like, how can you eat that butter? I'm imagining the tone, the cadence. I'm imagining all that. It's so funny to me. Oh my God, I will never ask him about that.

But if he hears this and hopefully we can talk about it. Okay. So why was Sulu using what appears to be the thinnest blanket in the world to keep himself warm? Well, I mean, they weren't expecting to be on the planet past a certain time. Nobody expects the transporters to fail. So one thing that kind of bothered me on that though, was that like, oh, you know, the

transporter is causing things to duplicate both ways. We sent down like a power cell or something like that and it was two of them. It wasn't working. But then it was like, well, why don't they just beam down like blankets and shelter. Well, can you imagine that the blankets started to try to like come to life and keep them? But no, because like, it wasn't doing anything. It was just like, beam down like one blanket they have two, then there's two that from the wrap around or or build like, you know, shelter bearing, they can build two shelters. What if they

Beam down a blanket, but only half of the blanket beams down in each half of or each of the two. So then what you do is you just have a blanket with a bunch of holes in it. Like she's like, yeah, like Swiss cheese. You're asking, you're you're asking you're asking the you're asking the right questions we need to get Gene Rottenberry to state involved yeah we'll have to we'll have to have to write a letter to him see if it replied to us just had Brad do it he's good with words and paper. This is the first episode that I believe we've seen the stereotypical Kirk overacting. No, Majita, remember early on you were asking about that. Now you've seen it.

How do you feel? There's everything I hope for. It was great. I got, you know what I got? I got, um, I got Nightman. I got that level of, of overacting. I got him screaming at the top of his lungs. I got him getting into a fight with himself.

And it was everything I hoped for. It was everything I could have wanted. Now, I did have a question about this. Because there were two curks, did William Shidener get two paychecks for this episode. I'm gonna say no. I'm pretty sure you know. Yeah. Yeah. I did like the eyeshadow. I felt like that was like

that really emphasized his evilness every time we saw. Yeah. He was going for gasps. every time we saw. Yeah. He was going for gasp. So that was a reaction. Dishoelene's pretty heavily on makeup and lighting to create evil and good. And then there's like the dreamy shot, like I like to call it where it's like they have like a close up of a person and it's all like kind of a little bit blurry in his, where it looks like it's dreamy kind of thing. Yeah. I think they put Vaseline on the lens, right, back then.

That was one way, yeah. That's a, that's some, you know, it's just kind of cool to see like all these classic like camera tricks being used this way, you know? Yeah. Speaking of tricks, the the transporter, it looked like an iPad.

And maybe it was just the, maybe just the angle or like the, you know, the part that I saw. The pad or the control? The transporter pad, yeah, sorry, the transporter pad controls look like an iPad. Okay, I'm pretty sure that was just like box. I get it, but that's so cool to me. Wait, well, I mean you're gonna see the iPad in next generation like legit

Because really? Yeah, the that's that's where that came from like the inspiration So the only thing that they didn't foresee happening was that all of your documents would be on one iPad. So they actually even called it a pad, PADDD, in next gen. But every document had its own pad. So you still had stacks of pads, like you would have stacks of notes. But you, one of the things that you'll notice

through the Star Trek series is that things that we are used to having will be referenced to of sorts in Star Trek. Right, like the replicator. Yeah, the food replicator. A lot of you have a food replicator. Nice. I'm still on a weight. Amazon. It's It's talking about like 3D printers more or so. Sure, that's it. But that's the whole idea is that like a lot of the inspiration of our current technology is pulled from Star Trek in the sense that people that were watching it, you know, when they were growing up, they're like, oh, like I want to make this. I want to create this

type of type of stuff. Yeah. Oh, totally. I'll stay away from Elon Musk's first generation transport of the Earth. Oh, gosh. His cyber, his cybernetic implant. Wait, does he have a neural trip? No, I've been out of the loop. Are you just, are we just hypothetically? No, he's going to know this is something he's talked about. Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah.

Yeah, get ready for it. We're across another hack the brain, man. I feel like, I feel like, you know, we're approaching less Star Trek territory and more cyber-dine territory. I imagine being able to download memes directly into your brain. I was just thinking about, is it not what NFTs are? Well, the movie Johnny and I, with the Canteries, remember that? Were you like, you download something? I watched it a few weeks ago and it was like, oh yeah, this file is like 64 megabytes. So I'm like, that's not that much space. Well for the human brain, isn't it like only like 256?

We have, we have enough credit yet. Yeah, 14, 14 for a broad rate. Sure, right. Right. All right, guys, so I think we've covered, like, pretty much all the important beats here. We have to rank this episode. We're going to give this thing a score. Brad, tell me which gap. This was a tough one a bit in a far the best part of the episode. However, there were some situations that I didn't really care for. And I think back to the previous episodes, those two white know we gave for the for the ones that were on the lesser side. I think I'm gonna have to go with Probably like a four maybe a five

It was a low episode for me. I'm gonna go with fuck with five only five only because of the the unicorn lion dog That is the only thing that that pushed it to a. The one redeeming quality is the unicorn lion dog. Yeah. You are so easy to please. Just give you a dog and a costume. Yeah, that's actually all you need. That was like the most adorable thing ever. Dude, that dog was so freaking cute. It was a cute dog. It was my my dog is cuter. True. But that was a cute dog. Yeah. That's fair.

GD, what do you got, man? I'm going to give this thing a four. Ooh. It was, you know what it is, is it was a weak concept. Brad pointed out a lot of the plot holes. You know, like, oh, just send down the swiss cheese blanket. You know. I suppose if you send that enough blanket,

eventually you'll have enough fabric to cover up all the holes. Right. Right. Sulu was using... Sulu was using the upper of the parachute that she would use when you're in kindergarten at the end of the day. And you kind of get under it. That's what he was using to keep warm. Well, he also shot rocks with phasers. So, wait, he shot the rock with the phaser. Yeah, and it warmed it up.

Like the all other. Oh, oh, actual rocks in the show, not the rock. I'm like, who shot the rock? But you guys got me. Jay, I shot the rock? But you guys got me. JR. But JR shot the rock. But to that point though, they could have shot the rocks on all sides. And they could have been just warm all around as opposed to just one little area. Yeah, but those things have the battery of a motor roller razor, right?

Those things are, those things aren't. We'll last very long. They don't go to Motorola Razor. Yeah, they do. You know, just real quick, you scored this lower than the cage. We don't talk about the cage. Listen, I also, I wanted to,

probably, wait, that's a strike for you. What? What? I'm not going through this again with you. We don't talk to a cage. I didn't get any strikes, so I want to point that out. Yeah, I still tell Brad, you wait. Yeah, no, listen, Brad, you talk smack last week and you ended up as a net negative. I wanted to, we talked about it a few weeks ago.

I wanted to proactively change my ranking of the cage and give it a negative number. You cannot do that. We ever make that change? No. I can't give it a negative number. You cannot give it a negative number. I find, I want to give that thing a two. I want to change my score.

No, you cannot change your score. What did you give it? Give it a five. Give it a five. Give it a five. I know I know better now. You gave the cage three. Well, you guys knew what to expect. I thought that these episodes were going to go up in quality, not not lateral changes. That being said, I gave it a four, this episode. It was a thin plot, something that didn't need to take an hour. Yeah.

I mean, I've noticed that there's a lot of back and forth in their storytelling. It's a lot more jumbled, where you have a lot of cuts between different points of views and different perspectives. Rather, at times, Ken seemed disjarring, rather than a nice flow of the pace for at least, in my opinion. Yeah, I think what you're gonna start noticing

as you switch back and forth, because you guys are watching Discovery, you guys are watching Picard. And one thing to notice about modern storytelling is that in addition to their main overall overarching story, they have smaller plotlines. They have A stories, which is the main stories, A, A stories, B stories and sometimes C stories. Everything that we've seen in these past few episodes of the original series are all A stories, but they try to stretch these things out and make into something that they're not.

This episode could have been resolved in 30 minutes. Oh, hey, experiment on the dog. Vulcan sleeper hold the evil Kirk. Let's get down to it. But no, they wanted to drag it off for an hour. Well, I think the other thing too, Majid, is the, these are much more geared towards that episodic self-contained. You don't need to watch next week's episode to really I can see you

disagreed through. Well it's not that I disagree with the episodic nature because it's clear that they are but there's you know three other Star Trek shows that came after this that were also episodic that managed to have an A and a B story and sometimes a C story. Well, no, I agree with that since people, but I think like with TOS is that it doesn't focus on those subplots as much as what we're currently used to. They're still kind of there. You see it with the characters interacting,

but it's not, it's not prevalent. Yeah, it would have been nice. And this is, this is notes on a classic, right? I guess this is what we can call it, trying to change something that's already aired. It's maybe if we got something with more sullo and how they were surviving on the planet and the struggles they were going with,

other than just, you know, sitting behind a chair, you know, deciding whether not he should make the code of sulless ain't, hey buddy, you're gonna die. Yeah. There's nothing I could do to help you, because I don't want to kill a dog. Your life is worth less than me than a dog.

I'm sorry, unicorn, unicorn dog. I would appreciate it if you had a unicorn lion dog. I'm not unicorn unicorn dog. I would appreciate it if you weren't lying dog. I'm not saying that because it wasn't a lion. There was no, there was no part of that was a lion. Did you not see the main, the nice, beautiful mane it had? They, they, you could have long hair unicorns. At least this is what my daughter tells her. You know what?

Let's put a pin in this, I'll give my several strike for that. Fair enough. True, what did you give the episode? Yeah, it's, it's gonna be low. I'm, I'm thinking like a four as well, honestly. Um, you know, like I was looking forward to seeing Evil Kirk. It's gonna be low. I'm thinking like a four as well, honestly. You know, like I was looking forward to see an evil Kirk.

And I think what I ultimately walked away from is just being disappointed that it wasn't alternate universe Kirk or mirroring it. It has Kirk, you know what I mean? We get one of those soon, right? I'm not sure if we get it in the first season. I think it's like season three. They have. Okay.

So we're halfway there. Yeah. I think Majid's mission in this podcast is to make me sigh as many times as possible. I want to be able to break you. It's working. I'm right. I want to, I've already broken.

I can tell, I can tell. I want to be your Ivan Drago on a break you. Instead, you're getting like, you're my Zapp brand again, and I'm your Kiff. I'm your Kiff. I'm your Kiff. I'm your Kiff. I'm your Kiff.

I'm your Kiff. I'm your Kiff. I'm your Kiff. I'm your Kiff. I'm your Kiff. I'm your Kiff. I'm your Kiff. I'm your Kiff. I'm your Kiff. All right, listen, if you haven't dropped the future on reference on me for a while, and I did not expect that. Well, play your, uh, your strike has been removed. Well, thank you.

Well, thank you, thank you, thank you. But yeah, you're up to nice. Um, all right. I just got to make sure I don't make any jokes about the rock where, uh, Lensflaurs got it. and not enough depth to the story, very paper thin plot. The stuff with, you know, Rand was a little cringey in some ways. And again, I'm willing to accept that it was part of the era, you know, a product of the time.

But it was still slightly uncomfortable. So all of that puts me at a four. I think if I were, if I were Chail surfing and this episode was on, I would probably skip it. Yeah, I think I agree with you on that one. Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't give this a second watch. Yeah, either way. But next week we have, I'll try to remember this episode. I don't know if I've seen this. Obviously, we've seen the character on Discovery. We're watching MUDs Women. The Enterprise rescues a con man named Harry M who is trafficking in mail order brides. Thanks to memory alpha for that lovely description of the episode. I feel like nothing could possibly be wrong with this episode.

It sounds like it's the perfect episode. I'm sorry. You said mail order brides? And I quote, the enterprise rescues a con man named Harry Mud, who is trafficking in male order brides. So they have male in space? Well, I mean, careers, right? So why not, male?

A space career? Yeah. Like, are we, so did they not have email? I'm, woke me through this one. Well, I guess how do you email a bride, right? But they have transporters. Well, I mean, but somebody, there's like, there's a limited transport or range.

Like you can't just beam something from earth to outer space. It's called zip it. Wait, are you still going to shut up? Or are you actually giving me the name of the company? No, just put it in a zip file, you're good. Oh, okay, I thought you were telling me to shut up. I was going to be. I was ready.

Can I just go back to that answer then? Can I just say zip it? Is it you need to shut up? That's, well, there you go. I just broke and you got yourself at the merit. I'll give that to a zip it. With a career. With, I think that's a win.

God, you're gonna be like the other guy we used to work with that used to thrive on dimarets. So we'll have to wait until next week to see what space mail really is. I'm actually expecting A.A. I don't know, man, in my mind, I'm expecting a guy dressed in a UPS outfit and

And he has like this that's van this space van and Free candy on the side of it. Oh, you see like this big me like picture like a Winnebago and yeah Like from space balls. Oh My god, that's exactly what I'm picturing. That's what I'm that's exactly what I'm picturing. Thank you. That would be perfect. Yeah Come in the desert Well on that folks Well, on that folks, that no folks, you have been listening to yet another space balls podcast. Maybe a short beer with you.

No lie if there isn't one, we should totally do that. A space ball. Yeah, well, they'll be, they'll be they'll be a little mini episode. That can be a nice episode. We could probably squeeze out 20 to 30 episodes on just talking about space balls. We can we can do an in-depth analysis of each scene. I'm okay with that. Mystery science theater stuff. Oh, totally. Yeah. I love that movie.

We're gonna make a space ball jokes at work today. It's great. All right folks, well, join us next week for Mud's Women. But in the meantime, we wanna thank everybody for listening to yet another Star Trek podcast. See ya later. Bye! Thanks for listening to yet another Star Trek podcast. We're a part of the retro session's network. This episode was recorded on March 15, 2022 and is hosted by Brad, Majeed, and me, Drew.

Thanks to Brad for writing this inopsis and thanks to Majeed for the artwork. And well thanks to me for editing it, right? Uh oh. Well, I would like to thank William Grobalar Music for our wonderful theme songs, Warp Speed and To The Stars. To find his work on SoundCloud, there's a link for that in the show notes. I'd also love to thank George Vertot for the additional artwork he made for us. We look like lower dex characters right now and it is the coolest thing ever.

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